When you say “Hey, someone call the police” there will be a delay. People will look around to see if others are going to do it. It’s best to say “Hey you, call the police” since when you narrow it down to in individual, they will feel obligated to do it. This eliminates the bystander effect
To everyone saying nobody will "let" you do this, thats why its called force. Stop worrying about finding someone of equal skill, just have the knowledge and practice it regularly and it very well could become useful. If I get tagged in the mouth while making an arrest thats fine, so long as the arrest was made.
I think that it would be better if you started slightly more to the left (5:53), that is, your center line not in line with his, but your right shoulder almost in line wth his right shoulder. Attack from a slight angle; he won't react as fast, since he doesnt see you exactly in front of him attacking, but suddenly from the side. This buys you fractions of a second till he figures out that he has to move/angle his body to be able to pull his arm away. I hope I explained it enough.
As a former wrestler, basic BBJ and extensive street fighting I find this move very ballsy because you are placing yourself dangerously very close to the body of your opponent who may be able to strike or jab at you with the opposite arm and may even clinch on to you and both will fall together towards the ground......with your pissed off opponent probably on top of you. To me it's a dangerous and counter intuitive move that I would not recommend to anyone.
Thank you. I am going to do this to my close friend today. I want to check his arm for (!!TW!!) cuts. The problem is he's bigger than me and stronger. I've wrestled him before and he is alot stronger.
Dear Gun Carrier - Loved this instructional video. Watched it today after I saw supermarket staff making citizens arrest on a shoplifter. My question is, what would be a good hold for until the cops get there.. Something less than a rear naked choke with hooks in? It could be a 10 minute hold you know..Or is that the way to go...? Something without beating him though... It was a teenager and skinny but strong...
Odee Dillon Focus largely on blocking, use guard dogs, guns, or pointed knuckle striking techniques. My recommendation. Older doesn't mean weaker either. I've seen a 65 year old bodybuilder before at this event. That guy could easily beat down any common 20 year old.
I do BJJ and my Coach (who is a black belt) taught me a much easier way out of this type of standing armlock. This is basically a Kimura Armlock, you see cops do it all the time. The only reason it works is because the person is resisting pushing back into the cop. If you just do a front roll, you can just roll right out of this armlock. It’s more complicated to get out of if you’re on the ground though. Before doing this you should practice doing front rolls, because if you roll over the top of your head you can hurt your spine. You should roll over your shoulder in a front roll.
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I love this video and technique...here is a question though : When you gain control of the arm...the guy's OTHER arm is completely free..which could allow him to punch /grab/attack you right in the balls...how do you prepare for that possibility..especially if dealing with someone who might know what they are doing?
Nice technique...but I believe ...it will be little difficult against a heavy strong opponent...and also....against a moving opponent. ...please also show the variation...of it ...thanks
I Street box a lot and in Street boxing you don't wear gloves and two people have grabbed my arm and one the fight that way so I looked this up to see what to do it didn't help
Non Compliant Maybe from a trained opponent, but I’m assuming this is for non-trained individuals that need to be controlled without excessive force. This wouldn’t work in a competition but it would if you’re trying to control an escalated situation at say, the bar or something, and some dude is drunk off his ass
@@titan20111 Dude this move isn't working unless u have a major size or streghnt advantage over your attacker, so it kinda beats the purpose of self defence right ?
Ok, controlling one arm is great. I have a serious question though. What do you do when he starts jabbing you with his left fist and you are too focused on the right arm? I realize that if you can get the maneuver to the second phase, right before take down, that you are out of harms way for the moment. But if you dive in for the right arm, you leave your face wide open for a solid jab. Like I said, this is a serious question. I have seen where you have your guard up and "smoother" into the spot between the shoulder and neck, get an arm lock as well as the head, and pull a simple reap takedown, but this method you're showing seems to leave yourself open for a brief moment.
What would be the best martial art to learn more techniques like this? I know Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is more ground based but would that be the closest? Good video by the way 👍
When doing that rear arm lock, better known as a hammer lock, you are not supposed to control the tricep. You need to control the elbow and separate him from his muscles by controlling the skeletal structure of the arm and shoulder.
do you have vids submitting someone who's actively resisting, i understand this is preemptive, but its hard to claim self defense when you attack a guy with his arms down.
Only use on grabing target because your hands would be down and you get punched in my experince but ive never tried the other way just saying i drop my forarm down because in smaller leads to subs like omaplata swicth legs over grab chin
Please forgive me for the unfavorable comment. Having had lots of experiences dealing with the indiviuals wgho are the sum of the Earth, I believe that I have some authority in making these comments. May I suggest, that not every potential person is going to be compliant (definitely not). Please ensure that your hands are around your face to protect your head before you make these maneuvers otherwise you will be sure to get hit in the face. Please use a few distraction tactic. For instance open handed slaps to the face of knee to the thighs or groin. Then apply the technique and watch out for any intervention from other colleagues or bystanders. Otherwise, not a bad technique. Thank you for your video. Gary security officer Launceston, Tasmania.
Preemptive arm control looks like the enemy could reverse it easily and bear hug you or get you into a choke. Seems you should be using your other arm to put up a barrier so he cannot move the arm before you put him in that hold.
Really the only way to do this is if you’re fast enough to catch them off guard or if you get the on the ground with a kick or punch or whatever and then put them in that position so they can’t get up, I’ve put people in that position and I’ve been put in it myself and I can tell you that no matter how strong you are you can’t move the rest of your body cause it puts the arm on a pressure point and the more you move the more it hurts, even if the other person is stronger than you just pull harder and they won’t be able to do anything...also another pressure point is to grab by behind the ears and that will blur their vision and hearing a bit and they won’t be able to do anything, not sure why but it’s impossible for them to punch or do anything at all, I’ve also put people in that position and I’ve been in it too and I can tell you from experience
if they can not breath they can not fight! if the can yell they can gain leverage...broad dead weight with legs or pivot of leverage...remove leverage and Pin! resistance against pin is motive to fight...end the Fight fast and pin
Be careful of false sense of security..some people just don't feel pain...last option, before hurting someone and being sued or great bodily harm. It's better to take a beating than accidentally killing someone..
Let's say you shoot at someone like that while you are sensing they will attack. Automatically they will pull their arm back. And make it difficult to even get into an arm bar.
Your issue here is you are square to his body. All the guy needs to do is step left foot forward while throwing his arm between your legs and pull with the arm you are holding then pick you up and slam you to the ground just using your body weight against you. Its a simple reversal. Never ever square up in this position. Always have one foot back. Its a great concept that you are trying to teach. But anyone who has some basic combat skills will take you down.
When you say “Hey, someone call the police” there will be a delay. People will look around to see if others are going to do it.
It’s best to say “Hey you, call the police” since when you narrow it down to in individual, they will feel obligated to do it.
This eliminates the bystander effect
Thanks for this tip
I've tried this on my brother but he keeps tickling my belly with his left hand
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olly bro your calling people gay
olly bro wanna fight
Aye funny
@@ollybro2294 you are cringy man
respect to the human punching bag :D That arm and shoulder joints gonna get sore
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Can we get some appreciation for my boy Josh? He’s the real hero, taking one for the team
Thanks,grandma didnt have any chance!
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This comment is way too over used
@@rajahassansher1002 Agreed, I've been seeing it everywhere...
To everyone saying nobody will "let" you do this, thats why its called force. Stop worrying about finding someone of equal skill, just have the knowledge and practice it regularly and it very well could become useful. If I get tagged in the mouth while making an arrest thats fine, so long as the arrest was made.
I think that it would be better if you started slightly more to the left (5:53), that is, your center line not in line with his, but your right shoulder almost in line wth his right shoulder. Attack from a slight angle; he won't react as fast, since he doesnt see you exactly in front of him attacking, but suddenly from the side. This buys you fractions of a second till he figures out that he has to move/angle his body to be able to pull his arm away. I hope I explained it enough.
As a former wrestler, basic BBJ and extensive street fighting I find this move very ballsy because you are placing yourself dangerously very close to the body of your opponent who may be able to strike or jab at you with the opposite arm and may even clinch on to you and both will fall together towards the ground......with your pissed off opponent probably on top of you. To me it's a dangerous and counter intuitive move that I would not recommend to anyone.
Thank you. I am going to do this to my close friend today. I want to check his arm for (!!TW!!) cuts. The problem is he's bigger than me and stronger. I've wrestled him before and he is alot stronger.
great teacher thanks very useful to protect ourselves
Gracias por compartir, muy útil para quienes enseñamos en el ámbito de la seguridad privada.👏👏💪👍✌🙏🇨🇱
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Great demonstration. I never been a fan of single arm grabs, it leave your oppenent with two many free limbs.
Dear Gun Carrier - Loved this instructional video. Watched it today after I saw supermarket staff making citizens arrest on a shoplifter. My question is, what would be a good hold for until the cops get there.. Something less than a rear naked choke with hooks in? It could be a 10 minute hold you know..Or is that the way to go...? Something without beating him though... It was a teenager and skinny but strong...
You make it look so easy. Any recommendations in unarmed tactics, for older folks like myself, who are losing muscle tone?
***** states erroneously, "it doesn't take any muscle."
it takes very little use of muscle, but muscle use it is nonetheless.
***** I do, but was compelled to say it for the non-English proficient amongst us. ;-)
Odee Dillon
Focus largely on blocking, use guard dogs, guns, or pointed knuckle striking techniques. My recommendation. Older doesn't mean weaker either. I've seen a 65 year old bodybuilder before at this event. That guy could easily beat down any common 20 year old.
Odee Dillon it's called training to master this move
Odee Dillon I
I do BJJ and my Coach (who is a black belt) taught me a much easier way out of this type of standing armlock. This is basically a Kimura Armlock, you see cops do it all the time. The only reason it works is because the person is resisting pushing back into the cop. If you just do a front roll, you can just roll right out of this armlock. It’s more complicated to get out of if you’re on the ground though. Before doing this you should practice doing front rolls, because if you roll over the top of your head you can hurt your spine. You should roll over your shoulder in a front roll.
Nice move really, done many times without any loss. Useful if done very soon.
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Great joint manipulation and taught very well, my wife tried this move on me and I was down in second!!!
That is a really good assistant because I would be smiling and laughing the whole time
You are a good teacher, I like you.
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Amazing Tecknique mate
so what do you do if he doesnt stand there like a training dummy?
Nice technique
I love this video and technique...here is a question though :
When you gain control of the arm...the guy's OTHER arm is completely free..which could allow him to punch /grab/attack you right in the balls...how do you prepare for that possibility..especially if dealing with someone who might know what they are doing?
Very effective for gun, knife or tiny weapons defence too.
Excellent
But what if he is hitting you with the other hand? Or he has his hand up to hit you?
My self defense teacher is an Ex-Navy SEAL, he's taught me some pretty badass stuff that he learned from the SEALS.
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Hey an "Ex-Navy SEAL"s involved. It will solve all the worlds problems.
Nice technique...but I believe ...it will be little difficult against a heavy strong opponent...and also....against a moving opponent. ...please also show the variation...of it ...thanks
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Would knowing how to box or knowing karate help
Lol how they brush over the best ways to resist they just say if they “bend their or whatever”
I love that one of my old bullys is usibg self defense method to attack others trying to defend
I Street box a lot and in Street boxing you don't wear gloves and two people have grabbed my arm and one the fight that way so I looked this up to see what to do it didn't help
looks like a recipe for catching a reversed elbow in the mouthpiece.
Non Compliant Maybe from a trained opponent, but I’m assuming this is for non-trained individuals that need to be controlled without excessive force. This wouldn’t work in a competition but it would if you’re trying to control an escalated situation at say, the bar or something, and some dude is drunk off his ass
@@titan20111 Dude this move isn't working unless u have a major size or streghnt advantage over your attacker, so it kinda beats the purpose of self defence right ?
@@kevmurphy9961 you must haven’t seen any videos of people being arrested
You can add a front leg sweep when you try to push him down. Judo is one of the best help. (turning around like aikido is keep him busy as well)
I've heard a lot of people say for quick situations like robbery or an assault that judo and jujitsu are the best to learn
Good at getting the locks, horrible at putting people to the floor- any recommendations?
Well done
Nice vid. What if the guy is big. I mean like jj watt type big. Will this technique work??? Again nice informative vid.
This will not work at all.
He can only apply the armlock, because his opponent starts helping him by leaning forward right from the start.
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Ok, controlling one arm is great. I have a serious question though. What do you do when he starts jabbing you with his left fist and you are too focused on the right arm? I realize that if you can get the maneuver to the second phase, right before take down, that you are out of harms way for the moment. But if you dive in for the right arm, you leave your face wide open for a solid jab. Like I said, this is a serious question. I have seen where you have your guard up and "smoother" into the spot between the shoulder and neck, get an arm lock as well as the head, and pull a simple reap takedown, but this method you're showing seems to leave yourself open for a brief moment.
Byron, Ninjas can't get jabbed!!! Haha!
What would be the best martial art to learn more techniques like this? I know Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is more ground based but would that be the closest? Good video by the way 👍
JJ, Akido, Wrestling, MMA that covers all of these...being able to do this when someone is moving and having a counter when they combat is good.
Does this hurt?
What kind of class is this ? To learn all this in person
This is the best restraint there is
excellently explained
When doing that rear arm lock, better known as a hammer lock, you are not supposed to control the tricep. You need to control the elbow and separate him from his muscles by controlling the skeletal structure of the arm and shoulder.
Fantastic! Thanks! 🎸😃
Good Stuff. Thxs.,Merci.
Considering taking muay thai and supplementing it with some practical aspects from jujitsu and/or aikido for the sake of self-defense. Thoughts?
I'm Doing muay Thai. Researching Aikido 👍
0:56 my friend took my arm and twisted it and I fail to the ground to control me, to keep me from hurting someone
This comment is embarrassing for you
Question sir what about the other arm in real life the other arm is going to turn and atack you ? Just a question
faster the pin the less likely of injury...a broken elbo is to slow!
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Very Nice video 👍 I would like to learn more of this
do you have vids submitting someone who's actively resisting, i understand this is preemptive, but its hard to claim self defense when you attack a guy with his arms down.
If you want to submit people, train Brazilian jiu jitsu. Don't listen to this fraud who's never been in a real fight
@@hookoffthejab1 how the hell is he a fraud?? Douchebag.
So good
Can’t do that now days. Any touching if the neck is a no no!
I training in shuri te bujutsukai Kenpo Karatedo I am have learn the arm bar I have break some one
Iam learn shorin ryu kempo karate jutsu kai it is very deadly martial arts
0:49
This is what I was looking for so long
Nice into-outro song btw
Please do not actually try this in a real fight it will get you killed.
You actually do this wen you don't wanna fight him
superb useful
Only use on grabing target because your hands would be down and you get punched in my experince but ive never tried the other way just saying i drop my forarm down because in smaller leads to subs like omaplata swicth legs over grab chin
good use,thank
Thank you
Too good sir
Please forgive me for the unfavorable comment. Having had lots of experiences dealing with the indiviuals wgho are the sum of the Earth, I believe that I have some authority in making these comments. May I suggest, that not every potential person is going to be compliant (definitely not). Please ensure that your hands are around your face to protect your head before you make these maneuvers otherwise you will be sure to get hit in the face. Please use a few distraction tactic. For instance open handed slaps to the face of knee to the thighs or groin. Then apply the technique and watch out for any intervention from other colleagues or bystanders. Otherwise, not a bad technique. Thank you for your video. Gary security officer Launceston, Tasmania.
good advice though thats the point of the preemptive in preemptive arm control
Your shoulder lock fails if he pulls the arm your controling through with other hand.
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what if he use his free arm to strike your groin?
respect to the test dummy
vy useful, awesome
So the police officer or solder should be bare foot?
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This met my burden of proof issue for the content. Cops (and others) use this material, so I will avail myself of the data. Thanks.
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Sooooo...is he going to do something with his last arm or no
Preemptive arm control looks like the enemy could reverse it easily and bear hug you or get you into a choke. Seems you should be using your other arm to put up a barrier so he cannot move the arm before you put him in that hold.
Next video, how to defence or counter attack your armbar
Really the only way to do this is if you’re fast enough to catch them off guard or if you get the on the ground with a kick or punch or whatever and then put them in that position so they can’t get up, I’ve put people in that position and I’ve been put in it myself and I can tell you that no matter how strong you are you can’t move the rest of your body cause it puts the arm on a pressure point and the more you move the more it hurts, even if the other person is stronger than you just pull harder and they won’t be able to do anything...also another pressure point is to grab by behind the ears and that will blur their vision and hearing a bit and they won’t be able to do anything, not sure why but it’s impossible for them to punch or do anything at all, I’ve also put people in that position and I’ve been in it too and I can tell you from experience
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if they can not breath they can not fight! if the can yell they can gain leverage...broad dead weight with legs or pivot of leverage...remove leverage and Pin! resistance against pin is motive to fight...end the Fight fast and pin
And how you gonna free yourself from that Position?
Be careful of false sense of security..some people just don't feel pain...last option, before hurting someone and being sued or great bodily harm. It's better to take a beating than accidentally killing someone..
Is your main martial art krav maga
What if the guy is bigger and stronger than me?
Apache persuasion hold THATS THE HELL
Quiet no movimiento
Let's say you shoot at someone like that while you are sensing they will attack. Automatically they will pull their arm back. And make it difficult to even get into an arm bar.
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What if the attacker uses brute force to get out of an armlock?
He wont even need to use brute Force. He could easily pull his arm out because the demonstrator has 0% control over the arm
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Your issue here is you are square to his body. All the guy needs to do is step left foot forward while throwing his arm between your legs and pull with the arm you are holding then pick you up and slam you to the ground just using your body weight against you. Its a simple reversal. Never ever square up in this position. Always have one foot back. Its a great concept that you are trying to teach. But anyone who has some basic combat skills will take you down.