Why Kenworth and Peterbilt Trucks Are Better Than the Rest
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2017
- I'm often asked what I THINK is THE BEST TRUCK in the CLASS 8 MARKET.
I don't hesitate to say PACCAR TRUCKS - Peterbilt trucks and Kenworth Trucks are the best.
From 33 years of owning trucks, I have found Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks to be very reliable and great value.
I have found the service efficient. Whenever I was in need of warranty work or other repairs, the repair shops were able to schedule my trucks quickly.
This was super important to me, in order to avoid excess downtime.
I found their warranties to be very comprehensive.
Paccar backed up their warranties as well. I've known many truck owners with Freightliners, Internationals and other makes of trucks, who have warranty issues with their trucks.
Kenworth and Peterbilt are sturdy and reliable trucks, which in my experience have served me well for my type of trucking, which for the most part has been long haul trucking.
Reliability, dependabilty and value.... all traits of a good truck.
If you have a truck which is turning a healthy profit for you, then THAT IS A GREAT TRUCK, no matter what the make!!!
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a truck with barely any problems is a good truck
Nothing more depressing than driving a dd15 cascadia and seeing the old timers blow your doors away in their old kenworth's and pete's.
Crossbone Vanguard lol😂😂 even those centuries n columbias with serie60 12.7 dust us
Hahaha you nailed it! I completely agree. I'd almost rather be an owner operator with one of those old Kenworth or Pete's instead of driving a company Cascadia piece of shit
I run a Coronado with a dd15 and right now I literally sitting at a Freightshaker dealership in Ohio waiting to get work done, watching RUclips to kill time lol
Sorry guys.
No harm intended.
Just trying to get to point b....
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company drivers 😂😂😂😂 it ain't about driving fast you dummy , you must not own your own shit...
What happened to the days when all truck manufacturers in America made quality products?
Any truck with EGR, DEF, or DPF units are garbage
You are 100% correct because when my d e f switch started acting crazy it shut the truck down so I refilled the tank and the switch still didn't reset and it cost me to lose power to where I couldn't go above 5 miles per hour cost me two days downtime as well which one of those days was Sunday and which no dealerships are open so i was stuck out in the middle of nowhere
You forgot Western Star, world wide recognized as the superior standard.
You are by far my favorite to watch on RUclips. Straight forward, honest, old school answers. I wanted to thank you both as I just got accepted on to Landstar. Its my first owner/op experience and even though you don't think there is much money left in trucking I'm going to give it a go. Thanks for the great content, it has helped a lot. And I've bought a Pete! Be safe.
Landstar's a good outfit and you'll learn the business there! Good luck! Dave
My last 2 Freightliners have performed very well. The most recent is a 2012 Fitzgerald Glider...804k on it with only one minor engine hiccup...original injectors,clutch and turbo. Profit has been my middle name.
Paccar used to be good but now is totally shit. Been running paccar for the past six years and had nothing but problems...especially the paccar engines! It doesn’t matter what you buy these days, it’s all junk now.
If it's making you money, that's a good truck! Well said. Thanks
Pete 379/389 and KW W900 ALL DAY!!!! These trucks are the Cadillacs of the road people
Mr. Pink studio sleeper
Mr. Pink totalled agreed. W900 my fav, flat top
379 my favorite
Kenworth trucks are over enginered.the repair cost are outragious.if I was a up start owner operator I'd choose a frieghtliner any day
Cadillac may cost a lot but they do nothing but break down
My friend's Paccar threw a rod recently at just over 300K. He has gone through he'll with that engine. May be he is just talking about the truck and not the engine.
My grandfather was a long haul trucker he died before I could ask him about his driving carrier so that's y I watch this channel thanks
As a Peterbilt and Kenworth fan, I stand with you on your comments about Paccar building top quality trucks. We have a production plant in Australia and the trucks built there are all custom built, specced according to their intended work and built to a standard, not a price. Our range starts with the T359 (in 6x4, 8x4 and 10x4 specs) then goes up through the T409/T409SAR, T610/T610SAR (utilising the North American T680 cab) up to the T659. T909, K200 COE and C5 Series. The C5 Series are the biggest trucks Kenworth make in Australia, utilising three models: C509, C510 and C540. The C509 takes the T909 chassis and builds on that to make a heavy duty truck built for heavy duty applications, such as road train, heavy haul and mining.
for real!! You always see the Cascadias and Internationals at the side of the road. Its ridiculous.
I work for peterbilt in Denton tx as a mechanical engineer. But I’m one of two or three that have mechanic background. I worked at a rush peterbilt and have the experienced of knowing what fail and what is a better solution. Now I’m taking my mechanic experience and putting my two cents in help designing and building a quality truck. Thank you for the video. I’m going to show this to my upper regional boss.
My own truck was built in Denton. Been an excellent truck! Dave
From all the Peterbilt employees, Thank you for being part of the Peterbilt/kenworth/paccar family.
Why can't you put doors on your PETE'S that could be driven in Alaska in the winter without freezing to death. It's not just me because you will not find a Pete with Alaska plates in in the winter. I called Kenworth on the subject and was told they been after The Pete factory for years and have gotten nowhere.
Here is my 7 months of truck driving experience opinion.. I drive a 379 snub nose with a sleeper. Accert 550 CAT. 18 Speed. Peterbilt and Kenworth are basically the Harley Davidson of the tractor market. Harley has a dealership in every major city. Lots of available aftermarket parts. Tons of them out there, so usually someone has parts lying around they will sell. Spare chrome parts and what not. I had the opinions while riding a japanese bike before I got a Harley. "I don't need a Harley. Harley's are always broke down. Harley's are over rated" blah blah blah. Finally I got a Harley and see what the buzz is about. Great ride. Parts are easy to come by. Great power and sound. Same thing with a Paccar tractor. People talk them down, because they can't afford one or their company will not put them in one. I am home every night and the worst part about my job is when I have to get into my pickup and drive home. I wish I had a 379 I could daily as well.
You got it! Dave
I have to roll my windows down to close my doors on my 379 and it’s an 07 with 2,000,000 miles on it
I was thinking of a freight liner, Pete, or Ken Worth . This is really helpful
Great info, exactly the information I was in search of. Tired of dealing with Freightliner emissions issues. Thanks for this video
I’m liking these videos. I’m considering in starting my own fleet and you have very decent advice.
pacar was actually shortened from pacific car and freight they actually started off making railroad box cars!
I’ll take my Detroit Series 60 12.7 Glider over a Pacar engine any day.
My 14 L 60 series makes over 600 hp. 60 series best truck engine ever made.
One of my favorite things about Peterbilt and Kenworth is the fact that they still make a great classic style truck, and they make the big jellybean trucks too.
Jellybean trucks! Never heard that before but I love it! Dave
Smart-Trucking.com Really? I thought you had used it in one of your videos. Maybe it was someone else.
Kenworth is the biggest selling brand class 8 in Australia, they even have a factory here. We have every brand of truck here imaginable, more brands than the USA, yet KW outsells them all by a country mile. Volvos and Scania are considered a round town truck. If you want to drag a 175 tonne 4 trailer roadtrain, KW is #1 seller.
gm16v149 it's a few Scanias in the US not many thougg
I'm with you but tell it to those guys in Europe! I don't think they believe me. Dave
Haha What would they know, they don’t have American trucks over there, but here in Australia we have both American and European trucks so we know the difference first hand.
Like I said, Kenworth is the most popular and the best seller for a whole lot of reasons.
Agree but the aussie Kenworth road train is a different beast to the American stuff. They don't have a t908 do they? and I don't think you can get a t680 in Australasia can you?
Different truck completely down in Australia.
If it’s made by man it will eventually wear out break down or let you down none of them run flawlessly even if you stay on top of all your PM’s things happen. As technology advances trucks are becoming more complex for creature comforts,safety, economy, logistics, epa, creating more things that can and will go wrong. If there were such a thing as trouble free vehicle I’m not sure any of us could afford such a beast.
We have 8 trucks all 99 fld126 we maybe have a breakdown once a year but nothing major they get about eight miles to the gallon and we get them rebuilt at about 1.5 million and we work on all our own stuff so even a turbo 1 hour job no problem back on the road
Some folks on here are complaining that the vid is biased. So what if it is. That's part of our economic system. It's called consumer preference. If most folks prefer kws' or peterbilts then maybe the other manufacturers should work on making a better product. That's all part of competition. Make a product folks like and can afford or your company dies.
well said
Love your videos. Always informative
Thank you!
Nothing beats a Kenworth W900 with a brand new Cummins in it!
JessieJ that X15. Lol.
A W900 or a 379 with a 3406E Cat does. Especially a 3406E 6NZ
The last good trucks that Freightliner made was the FLC and the Classic. The FLD Also held their own.
2016 Kenworth T 660 glider kit just checking in. 12.7 Detroit Diesel series 60 powered with a 13 speed, Studio sleeper Diamond interior and a whole lot of attitude! Great video. One of the main reasons I switched to KW is the fact that many other dealerships in the Southeast are open 24 hours 7 days a week. That is a big help if you need a part sometimes you can get work done during those hours.
Absolutely! Dave
Im learning so much about trucks and the industry thank you ! Great teacher!
I'm not going to agree or disagree with you. Plus I've heard horror stories about fixing peterbuilts and kenworth trucks. But all trucks have there issue.
Just an idea , you might do a video on why the mega carriers get rid of their trucks early because they know the freightliners are going to start falling apart and then brag about having the newest fleets
Hit the nail on the head with this one. I've worked on them all in my career. Favorite trucks are Kenworth and Peterbilt
Very smart man, easy to listen to and good content
I appreciate that!
Once again, you've made another good video. Thank you.
I am wondering about something: Can you make a video about the pros and cons of each trailer type? (I'm thinking box trailer, flat, tank, livestock, etc.)
Also, have you ever come across a box trailer with a round front end, where even with a short day cab, it would be next to impossible to jacknife the trailer?
You posted this 2 years ago. In a different video you posted a year ago, you did NOT mention Paccar engine as one of the 10 best. Why?
Freight shaker yes I recall spending off days with a Freightliner 14 hours waiting on warranty work...It was a lovely truck all done out but headaches in the rainy season in CA make a right turn and ya gut a cold shower...this was 1992 and it was a 1993
frite liner...Last I heard it had transmission problems all for 65k it was a cOe speced for triples. You make much sense...and dollars.
I worked as a security guard at the gate of a reclamation site seeing and watching the trucks pulling through that gate and I can tell that the best engine sound was for peterbilt and kw.
I haven't driven trucks in about 20 years, but I really enjoy your videos. I find your videos to be very educational, interesting and informative. Thanks for posting.
Thank you sir! Dave
Even local freightshakers are always in the shop. Our lot had 2 sterlings on regular rotation cause we always had 1 or 2 out of 10 trucks in the shop
I'd have to agree. It took a while for my company to open their eyes. We went from international to freightliners and we just got a whole new fleet of Petes.
Excellent, listen about the clutch linkage. Only pedal used more then the brake... That hardcore wisdom. Thank you for all your videos
Thank you Jonathan! Dave
I like Pete 379 but don’t buy with Paccar Moter Get C 15 cat Cummings or Detroit Paccar socks
Love the KenWorth. I du a lot of mines off road driving. KW hold up run great. FreighShakers fall apart with in a year
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Great video, I'll add some insider info I learned after speaking to the owner of a large trucking company. They own over 75 class 8s, what he said to me is they will no longer be purchasing Diesel haulers; They will be upgrading their fleet with Tesla semi trucks as they replace their oldest models and their fleet ages out. Take that for what it's worth but I tend to agree that is the future and it will improve their margins greatly compared to anything else on the market
I have a 2013 Freightliner Cascadia Auto Trans 505hp. Had it since 2014 and never had to take it to the shop. Had not one single issue with it
Gotta like that! Dave
I've always been a fan of Pete 379s and KW W900s, but lately, I have had a thing for old flat-top Freightliner classics. I hope I get lucky and get a good one when I get my own truck.
Here in Colombia Paccard: PTRBLD and KNWRTH is the dominant brand.
K Ws are just a beautiful truck. I want one eventually
In the 90's I worked in a shop owned by several truckers who ran the ice road in Alaska. They preferred Peterbilt's air ride suspension systems and showed me how Peterbilt used several mid sized components in their Air Trac system that could be easily replaced or adjusted, unlike the huge trailing arms of the Neway type suspension system where the bushings and components are so large, they're impossible to replace, unless you have a hundred ton portable press, and even then, those bushings come out of the housings, like a bullet out of a gun.
Stevens has always been KW for the 26 years I've been there. We have only recently added Pets and freight liners.
I drove a 1998 385 pete for years. It was the best truck ever. It healed up good and was a simple designed and easy to fix. The only downside was that parts were expensive but I guess you get what you pay for.
Appreciate your advice on Paccar engines.
My friend bought a pete 5 years ago never had an issue no headaches its worth it !
I had a 2014 t680 with paccar mx13 thing was a piece of junk finely gave up trying to keep it on the road when it started blowing off coolant changed head and gasket but a week later started leaking at head gasket was told it would need a new engine spent 40k in 2 years just trying to keep it going and the warranty payed about 40 k also switched to a cascadia about a year ago no issues with it
Your right however don't forget Western Star. Too heavy but they love logging roads.
Great insight thank you
I drive a 2018 Kenworth T680 with a x15 cummins that a company gave me with only 60 miles on the odometer. Now with 280k miles with very little problems on it. From there, I will never drive a freightliner or Volvo again. My kenworth is by far the most reliable truck I have ever driven
2:53 Thats my favorite thing i have heard all day
When I drove a KW it was always easy to get service, now that I drive a piece of shit “Vulva”, I miss those days. Volvo... a plastic modified cab over.🤬
Ken Munoz yep
My only experience with Paccar was driving a KW T660 and for the entire time that I drove that thing, it gave me so many problems, from leaving me stranded on the interstate, in the middle of a work site, holding up traffic, to minor nuisances such as the AC not working, to drinking up coolant faster than any truck I've seen, and giving me the middle finger if I didnt constantly fill it. I experienced so many issues that I never had to worry about in a Cascadia. Probably if I had a better model I'd love Paccar stuff, but as it currently stands, I definitely prefer frieghtliners, lol
That's correctomundo! I had a Intertrashional Prostar with a max force. OMG!!!! BREAKDOWNS, Electrical problems, DEF problems, EPU problems and the list goes on. Freightliner was ok. T660 was GREAT love that truck. My current Pete. Love it. Everything I could expect and beyond.
Kenworth and peterbilt are awesome
Man... this is an amazing testimonial.
Thanks Paul! Dave
Drove a Peterbilt 587 on my last highway job with a big Cummins over 500 horse and 1850 foot pounds of torque, bolted to a 18 speed stick. Awesome truck could do 600milles a day and still feel good, super comfy and quiet.
Never had any trouble getting service in a Freightliner dealership. I'm presently in a 2020 T 680. It has a Cummins engine. My DDEC 15 out pulls this Cummins hands down. The engine computer has been a nightmare so far. One problem after another. If I were buying my own, after this 6 months in my Kenworth, I would buy a Freightliner.
I miss the OLD P57 Marmon...:(
How much is paccar paying this dude?
They don’t have to pay a man to speak truth. Nothing beats a Pete or a W900
None, he's a trucker, he drives Pete's because for him in Canada it is what got the job done. If you listen to the end dude you'd heard Him say if the truck makes you money REGARDLESS OF THE MAKE it's a good truck. So it's not just shit to do only with peterbilts and Kenworth trucks. And I use to drive a Pete, only thing I hated was the damn Cummins in it
I don’t know which engine is worse ,paccard or maxforce...
Pete for ever best I had thanks good video
I agree Dave, the company I drive for had International then for engine choice available they switched to Freightliner, well after a few years they tried a Kenworth and their eyes were opened, now that's all their buying now since 09. An old guy looked at the KW and said their still solid like he had in 68
I have a freightliner xl classic and I have had no problems just maintanece. Good ole cat power just keeps going.
Never drove a KW or Pete that I didn't like. Definitely can't say that about the Volvos I've been running the past few years.
Ken I hated every mile I had to spend in both.
Started out driving in freightliner columibia flat tops. I miss having a big 550 Detroit and desk on the sleeper but man you CANNOT beat the ride of a t660 or 389. More comfortable sleepers in the paccar stuff too!
Got a fire engine built on a two door Kenworth Class 7 truck. No get up and go off the line, but once once she's going, beautiful to drive.
I know the City of Toledo OH makes heave use of Pete's for their fire rigs, 4door cabs. They love them.
From watching your videos, I know you're a Pete man. My dad was too and he was ready to choke the life out of me when I bought my first tractor, a Freightliner! This was back in 1999. The thing is that every part of every vehicle is mass produced so you're bound to get a bad one now and then no matter what brand you buy. I own 5 Freightliners now and they're all making me money. My only complaint about Freightliner is that they don't offer a truck that looks like a truck anymore, you know, dual stacks and all the chrome that makes it a truck. That's why I had my 2 Classic XLs completely gone through 2 years ago. I also own 2 Cascadias as well as a 95 FLD 12064 which is the truck that upset dad so much! My point is...they're all good trucks no matter what emblem is on the grille...except for that 1 in 1000 that's a bad apple. Be safe out there!
Love my Peterbilt!
I have driven them all in 34 years, I'm currently driving my favorite of all. 2016 western star. Roomiest most comfortable truck I've ever driven.
You're a smart man. I applied over and over at a company with a fleet of KW's and I'm in my 3rd w900 now. Can't imagine driving anything else. Currently in a flat glass long hood hauling logs. When does that ever happen lol
Not often enough! Good job! Dave
I agree, "you can't beat a sweet Pete"
379 ftw 😍 love ya peterbilt
love my 1998 kw t600,good ole truck
Good information
What about the engines. i’m planning on getting a W900L. But I need advice on an engines. what do you think about cummins vs paccar vs detroit?
jahrhythm I worked at Pete. We hated Pacar. Get anything but pacar.
Well how about this one: Caterpillar C15 (Pre or after Acert) great engines, loads of torque at low rpm and good fuel milage as a result.
Cummins makes the best engines out there, easy to fix and as reliable as they get
W900L is a great choice.. But maybe consider a glider kit. No emission issues. Personally I would get a 6nz cat.
I personally find the Paccar MX13 gutless for Super B. Preferred the Cummins ISX
Yea but i wanna buy one them new trux that kenworth,peterbuilt and freightliner went in on together and built,i believe they call it a peter worth shaking🤔😂
I love cats and Pete's but when I first started out I drove an early 90s Volvo with a built cat. I loved that truck.
I own a KW 900L, 1999, and I LOVE IT, I also drive an old PETERBILT 379, and I LOVE IT!! driven, all the rest, now I own the BEST!!!!
I agree with you. Kenworth and Peterbilt makes the best and reliable trucks compared to Western Stars and Freightliner. But have to add that European trucks like Volvo and Scania are pretty tough too.
Yeah, the Pete dealer always gets me in quick for 139 bucks an hour.
carlylea love to know what dealer you are going to for that rate
I do agree with him about Freightliner. They have gone down quite a bit because they got rid of the classic. I own an 03 Classic XL, and love it. But, I do not agree with the down time. My truck has only been in the shop one time because I had a bad Jake solenoid on the center set from when I bought it. Freightliner is also cheaper for parts. I got the same brand airlines at Freightliner, for $140 that i would have paid $250 at Paccar.
carlylea lol 😂
BRADY SCHROEDER the classics are pretty nice trucks. I think this video was talking more about the junk cascadias the big companies use
I was turned away from two Pete shops because is was a warrantee repair. I lost two days pay!
My 2006 w9 has a c15 with over 1.1 million miles on.. I keep after it on maintenance and it runs realy good. Good oil sample results. Doesn't seem tired at all..
I've got over a million on mine, still runs great. Dave
It took me awhile to get used to the KW accelerator pedal. For the first few hours my driving was pretty jerky.
Your correct on freightliner, your forgetting about Western Star, I own a paccar now and have always driven them, literally always, but in switching to Western Star, better built than paccar, better warrantee than paccar, and way better price, yes I know they are owned by the same company as freightliner, but are a completely different entity, just a better built tougher rugged truck... absolutely Pete’s and kenworth have the looks, but turning heads never made me more money
but i still prefer the sound of the old 2 valve detroit over a paccar
Do you maintain a warranty on your older trucks, like your 2004? Or would you just fix it yourself if anything major happens?
All my experience is with peterbilts, freightliner and kenworth's, I used to think Peterbilts and kenworths were like buying a harley over say a kawasaki just a buying a name kinda thing. I've never been more surprised, the build quality difference between them was huge. I'll never drive a frieghtliner again, I hated driving down the ice road in a brand new cascadia and having interior screws falling out, rattling every where. Switched to a peterbilt 579 the next year for the ice and it didn't rattle, or fall apart...plus rode smoother! The detroit dd16 in the frieghtliner would out pull my mx13 paccar no problem but the paccar is the longer lasting engine by far.
The only reason Freightliner has market share is the DD 15.....If Cat had been a bit more energetic in figuring out the DEF issue...Then I wouldn't have to ride around in my plastic box
Hi Dave, How many miles you get on your old Pete? It looks new.
Over a million. It spent half its life in California and I'm sure that was easier on it. Dave
Eric Lietsch ok
I would say they are more expensive. Know that from experience. And I've had this same problems with Kenworth, not being able to get in and then have 4 different Kenworth dealers misdiagnose my problem. Spent 14,000 at 4 different Kenworth dealers to find out at the 5th it was a crack in my fuel filter housing that didn't cost over 450 dollars to get fixed. I own a Freightliner Coronado also and also a couple Columbias never been misdiagnosed. But we will agree to disagree on that , but I often look at your channel cause you are very informative and knowledgeable. You do a damn good job keep it up. Oh by the way the Coronado I have is a Fitzgerald glider kit rig. Please keep doing what you do I have gotten alit of good info from you. Can tell you love Kenworths and Pete's they are nice.
Thank you sir! Dave
I got a sweet 2015 Kenworth T680, Thermo King tripac, 13 speed with the paccar engine, it pulls like a big pete, I has just got over 325,000 miles on it & the engine is getting stronger by the mile, I really love the 13 speed too., that's the way to go with these new governed engines, I can stay within the power band on a climb & it does not puke the white smoke during a regen either, I never know its working but it is. I love the layout with all the gauges & the kick butt stereo with the bunk subwoofer & the built in fridge. I love the truck & the purple color as its about time the industry makes something besides black & white or blue. yes I have had a few minor problems with it but none in a long time, lots of hard road miles & its getting a beating out here.