The Supremacy vs Andromeda Fleet (Star Wars vs Space Battleship Yamato 2202)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2023
  • Who would win between the largest star destroyer against Andromeda and the fleet.
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    star wars, Space Battleship Yamato 2202, star trek, picard, andromeda fleet, wave motion gun, vs, the supremacy, mega star destroyer, gatlantis empire, first order, death battle, space battles
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  • @dodski973
    @dodski973  Год назад +49

    At the end of the video,
    What will Captain Picard do?
    1. Resign?
    2. Coup d'etat / battle against andromeda fleet?
    3. Go back in time?
    4. Requesting help from andromeda fleet to eliminate the borg?

    • @remtorres7511
      @remtorres7511 Год назад +10

      Transit wave motion cannon should destroy the whole death star and the fleet of the empire

    • @Alan17015
      @Alan17015 Год назад +4

      Yeah probably

    • @sneeki8082
      @sneeki8082 Год назад +10

      @@remtorres7511 the normal wave motion gun is enough

    • @meanstavrakas1044
      @meanstavrakas1044 Год назад

      None of the above. He will apologize for being a White Male.

    • @ussenterprisecv6805
      @ussenterprisecv6805 Год назад +4

      @@remtorres7511 well the wave motion energy itself has effectively an infinite energy supply limited only by the state of the vessel nothing in star wars gets even close to that level of power, it would take entire fleets to overwhelm the shields of the d-class escort frigate or even the kongo class after their refits in 2202 like Yuunagi and of course the shock cannons are anit matter based so will slice through star wars ships the transit wave motion gun would be beyond overkill unless you want to wipe out coruscant and its entire system.

  • @rakisuzuki-burke4148
    @rakisuzuki-burke4148 Год назад +81

    This...
    is not a fight.
    I don't think this is even a slaughter.
    Pest control, maybe, if even.

    • @jamesbellefeuille2926
      @jamesbellefeuille2926 Год назад

      The pests would have been the inept commanding officers of both the First Order and the Resistance. They don't hold a candle to leaders like Domel or Thrawn.

    • @pokebreeder2517
      @pokebreeder2517 10 месяцев назад +2

      more so a boulder crushing a ant at best

  • @angelapolinar5343
    @angelapolinar5343 Год назад +63

    It's not even a competition. We're looking at ships a quarter the size of Resurgent-class heavy cruisers with greater firepower. The spinal WMDs may take some time to charge, but you don't need all of those just to take down some Resurgents & a Mega. Half the fleet with a wave motion shield, buying time for the other half to charge the wave motion guns, and then all the First Order capital ships are gone. If they launched any smaller craft, then now those have to contend with the much more advanced UNCF fighters and the heavy point defenses of Dreadnought-class battleships, not to mention the multitudes of missiles that UNCF ships pack & the quick-reloading antimatter weapons.

    • @doubt3430
      @doubt3430 Год назад +12

      Not even a quarter
      The Andromeda is like
      484 meters in length
      The supremacy is 25km in width
      And just 1 andromeda can probably take it out
      And that's just 1
      Now if it was something like the amaterasu or the Apollo norm probably a little quicker
      A le andromede would take the same amount of time but the engineers on board would probably kill themselves due to having to deal with the cursed amalgamation of Terran and garmillan tech

    • @mczg4954
      @mczg4954 8 месяцев назад +3

      We need someone to do detailed video either 1st order or Galactic empire vs UNCF but make it on large scale/what if Yamato sudenly teleported/got transported to Starwars universe durring galactic civil war (rebelion vs Galactic empire)

  • @MutheiM_Marz
    @MutheiM_Marz Год назад +56

    A ship a size of MC30, but with 9 heavy turbolaser, 6 medium turbolaser, 36 torpedo tube, about 40 VLS missiles tube, 30 point defence mine launchers, about 120 laser cannon for point defence, shield+shield projecting missile, 40 garrison starfigther+bomber and a crown jewel is 1 super laser capable of blowing up an entire continent. Every metre of Yamato is crawling with weapons.

    • @Musashi_-81
      @Musashi_-81 11 месяцев назад +13

      Oh not just a continent, not even planets and stars are safe from the Wave Motion Gun

    • @Genesongx
      @Genesongx 10 месяцев назад +13

      A continent is really lowkey imo due to the nature of the gun itself
      The stuff behind the WMG is quite impressive, "the core expands compressed manifold dimensions yielding so much energy and creating a supergravity wave that by consequence spawns millions of mini blackholes from nothingness, the universe fabric, then they instantly explode due to hawking radiation and that's all directed through the funnel by the same wave" uninstalling from reality whatever is in front, i'd say planet buster at least but honestly for the amount of stuff going on the destructive yield placed by the franchise is quite low

    • @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209
      @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209 10 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@Genesongxwell in 2199 the desler cannon, garmilas version of wave motion gun can destroy a planet the size of Jupiter and later on in 2205 it was confirmed that uncf wave motion gun can do the same as proven by Yamato destroying garmaria a rock planet the size of Jupiter, the transit wave motion gun on the other hand its bye bye.

    • @firesturmgaming
      @firesturmgaming 15 дней назад +1

      Shock cannons are wayyyy more powerful than turbolasers. Its like turbolasers if turbolasers can somewhat scrub atomic structures away.

    • @firesturmgaming
      @firesturmgaming 15 дней назад +1

      Also don't forget if need arises, the Yamato can also lob 18-inch shells, which can also function like proxy-fused beehive shells, at the enemy. Those shells ought to put a hole in any ISD or even the First Order SDs.

  • @nilok7
    @nilok7 20 дней назад +6

    Kodai: "How many Eclipse Star Destroyers did you bring?"
    Hux: "...None?"
    Kodai: "Shame... I was at least hoping for the illusion of a fair fight."

  • @MrSpy13011
    @MrSpy13011 11 месяцев назад +113

    The power scaling in yamato is significantly greater than in Star Wars. Pretty sure the yamato alone could take them on.

    • @debasishgoswami9896
      @debasishgoswami9896 8 месяцев назад +6

      Warhammer 40K ship laughing in the corner 🤣😂

    • @thatall1145
      @thatall1145 8 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@debasishgoswami9896Warhammer ship would be just fishing ships to the yamato universe

    • @debasishgoswami9896
      @debasishgoswami9896 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@thatall1145 And Yamamoto Ships would be bunch of normal boats for Warhammer Ships, first go and know about Warhammer Ships then come and talk about them. DOLT 🤣😂

    • @debasishgoswami9896
      @debasishgoswami9896 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@thatall1145 NGL Yamamoto would be a fly to a Phalanx ship , Warhammer 40k ships negs Yammidto 😂🤣

    • @darktitanmedia548
      @darktitanmedia548 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@debasishgoswami9896 1 wave motion gun can destroy an object the size of Jupiter ...... it doesn't matter how much bigger the target is

  • @minimalbstolerance8113
    @minimalbstolerance8113 8 месяцев назад +71

    Hux: "Surrender! Your tiny ships can't hope to defeat a warship that measures sixty kilometres across!"
    Kodai: "Sixty kilometres? That's nice. Did I ever tell you about the time a single one of our tiny ships one-shotted an artificial continent the size of Australia?"
    Hux: "What in the name of the Dark side is Australia?"
    *BOOM!*

    • @nobody3761
      @nobody3761 4 месяца назад +6

      They were also shown to crack worlds.

    • @ricardofabbri3967
      @ricardofabbri3967 3 месяца назад +8

      Like one of my favorite content creators once said: "Any ship capable to cross the vastness of the interstellar space at speeds close to light speed ought have energy supplies capable to shoot nukes like a machine gun. And any method to circunvent special relativity might have the same."

    • @richardscepton3114
      @richardscepton3114 Месяц назад +1

      @@nobody3761 ehh, not crack worlds. One ship smashed open a planet like an egg and then deleted a fleet behind it

    • @nobody3761
      @nobody3761 Месяц назад +2

      @@richardscepton3114 So literally what I said but more steps 💀

  • @brianrogers7360
    @brianrogers7360 Год назад +92

    Even the Yamato, by herself could have taken Supremecy out by herself. 1 shot of the mighty Wave Motion Gun and bye bye Supremacy. Then, all the others could attack the rest of the fleet

    • @Eric0225
      @Eric0225 Год назад +15

      I think the main issue tho is the Yamato WMG is concentrated, Andromeda and Dreadnought is spread, hit more targets with 1 shot.

    • @samuraijackson241
      @samuraijackson241 Год назад +3

      ​@@Eric0225 I will preferto callthem split type because the Arizona class fire a singular beam towards the enemy, only splitting upin a whole lot of beams when it's near the enemy. Another thing to note, the Andromeda class have a twin concentrated type wave motion cannon.

    • @hibemabygaming4316
      @hibemabygaming4316 Год назад +2

      @@samuraijackson241 The Andromeda has a spead WMG, as shown in Space battleship Yamato 2202 the first time it shoots.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@hibemabygaming4316 they can switch modes... in this very battle Yamanami says switch from spread to conversion so they definitily can fire it like the Yamato WMG.. the Andromeda and Dreadnought classes WMG are just more versatile for fleet engagements

  • @danielhaire6677
    @danielhaire6677 3 месяца назад +5

    The only problem with this video is that if that many Wave Motion Cannons fired on the First Order Fleet, there wouldn't be any debris larger than a sardine can to find.

  • @margiebumgarner7860
    @margiebumgarner7860 Год назад +17

    SCOTT: ALL SPACE BATTLESHIP FLEET, READY?... AIM... WAIT FOR IT... FIRE!

  • @mateocabaguio4444
    @mateocabaguio4444 Год назад +55

    The Andromeda fleet wins 10/10 against the Supremacy fleet. The Andromeda/Garmilas fleet is just too powerful to defeat. Plus in 2205, the the UNCF and the Garmilas Empire have completely rearmed and they’re in an Alliance together. The First Order on the other hand, is a complete joke. They couldn’t even defeat a small resistance or a small fleet like the one in the Last Jedi.

    • @hibemabygaming4316
      @hibemabygaming4316 Год назад +9

      In 2202, they were already in an alliance

    • @Alan17015
      @Alan17015 3 месяца назад +2

      To be fair I don’t think they really needed the rest of the wave motion fleet. I believe they would need like two Andromeda ships and a couple escorts and boom done

    • @nerobernardino88
      @nerobernardino88 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Alan17015 The 2205 fleet would win out, lmao

  • @MacTechG4
    @MacTechG4 11 месяцев назад +8

    “Don’t cross the streams… it would be bad…”

  • @mrdriver2988
    @mrdriver2988 Год назад +49

    Same results if you replaced The Cosmo Fleet from SBY 2202 with the Macross NUN'S fleets, spamming big fleet wiping lasers, but the fighters from Macross are insane.
    Also both Macross and SBY where made originally from the same studio, Studio Nue so there is a lot of resemblance to tech, they are like cousins.

    • @Mid_Range_Destruction-31
      @Mid_Range_Destruction-31 Год назад +1

      yeah bombs that are mini black holes

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 Год назад +1

      @BeT dimensional eaters. Depending on how much fold quarts humanity has they can mass produce it again just like what Frontier did, and I mean the Frontier Fleet did land on the Vajra homeworld soo that is a gold mine for food quarts.

    • @koungendo6371
      @koungendo6371 Год назад +1

      @@mrdriver2988 everywhere I go that involved Macross, I see you bro

    • @EdwardChan.999
      @EdwardChan.999 Год назад +3

      SBY is the elder brother. The creator of Macross openly said he was heavily inspired by SBY.

    • @mrdriver2988
      @mrdriver2988 Год назад +1

      @EdwardChan.999 indeed it is, like you can see how similar the original enemies where the Zentradi and Gamilas where Green skinned aliens with an enormous fleet. The Macross Canon is the brother to the WMG

  • @witherboycraft
    @witherboycraft 9 месяцев назад +7

    Yamato motion gun vs death star laser gun
    Next video please

  • @margiebumgarner7860
    @margiebumgarner7860 Год назад +8

    Scott from power rangers rpm: Okay space battleship fleet. Steady... Steady.... TARGETS LOCKED!

  • @Connor.SG-1Ring
    @Connor.SG-1Ring 4 месяца назад +3

    Note, the wave motion guns from *EACH* of those ships can destroy a continent the size of Australia. Nothing of the Supremacy will remain again that.

  • @aleksandramakari
    @aleksandramakari 6 месяцев назад +4

    When the WMG can be charged in 10 seconds, they immediately beat Star Wars.
    Death Star's beam blast made the planet explode.
    WMG evaporates planets. Add Beta Monopole and it's capable of blowing up an entire Galaxy or two.

  • @firesturmgaming
    @firesturmgaming 15 дней назад +1

    Forget Supremacy, the WMG is perfectly capable of detonating Starkiller Base.

  • @hanhnguyenluu75
    @hanhnguyenluu75 Месяц назад +1

    Never try to pick a fight against the Earth Federation main fleet

  • @christianresel8051
    @christianresel8051 Год назад +23

    Realy?.... one of the new type destroyers would be enogh for the entire first order fail of a fleet. Remember, even the smallest WMG can blow up a planet the size of earth. So with the "Scatter" WMG one of them is enogh to kill the entire fleet. Prove? WMG shots PIERCED through them 800 meter long warships of gatlantis in the Encladus Defense Fleet battle wich started the Sol System war. So yes, even ONE of the DD would be more than enogh, not to mention a Dreadnought. With even ONE andromeda present, no matter wich one, they would all die in one shot.
    So get real, no other outcome would come of this. I dont even need to mention how powerfull the shock cannons are (1% of the WMG btw.), nor the shielding that holds together against nearly ANYTHING safe ammased bombardment OR similar powerfull weapons and shields. Shure Gatlantis had a counter of sorts, but that only because they could just "grow" anything shipwise they want in the millions. if the OG one would fight this 2202 fleet, they would be wiped out easily.
    And even if you take the EDF fleet of the OG second season of Space battleship Yamato, the result would be the same. The WMG is jsut to powerfull.

    • @nugget6635
      @nugget6635 Год назад +12

      It's said that the original Yamato's wave motion gun can destroy continents the size of Australia. So we can only imagine how powerful this insane beam spam of Andromeda and Dreadnought WMGs really is, definitely it destroys planets.

    • @LeonardoFSI
      @LeonardoFSI Год назад +12

      IThe WMG did destroy a landmass the size of Australia, but that's only because that was the size of the target, it can in fact destroy planets in single shots.
      We know for a fact that these are planet killers, as stated by the Iscandarians and when The Yamato destroyed a planet in episode 17 of 2199 and again on part 2 of 2205.

    • @Mid_Range_Destruction-31
      @Mid_Range_Destruction-31 Год назад

      agreed

  • @hanhnguyenluu75
    @hanhnguyenluu75 Месяц назад +1

    Welp, a 60km wide star destroyer vs the Earth Federation Main Fleet with Yamanami in command, the Supremacy got wrecked, I'm surprised Finn, Rose, Rey, Kylo and Hux even survived

    • @hanhnguyenluu75
      @hanhnguyenluu75 Месяц назад +1

      The Resistance wouldn't have survived with 1 MC85 and 3 smaller ships

  • @sashankgaming6818
    @sashankgaming6818 3 месяца назад +3

    With the time fault and if they mass manufactured the Andromeda and Yamato class Earth would be invincible

  • @stevencohen624
    @stevencohen624 Год назад +19

    I’d love to see a battle between the First Order and Gatlantis.

    • @fakhrymuhammad4612
      @fakhrymuhammad4612 Год назад +14

      Gatlantis have more advantage than the First Order. They can just spam many ships and Ark Of Destruction only can be destroy from inside. And it take WMG to pen Gatlantis ships armor

    • @kellenwong1682
      @kellenwong1682 Год назад +7

      @@fakhrymuhammad4612 And unlike the First Order, Gatlantis is actually competent.

    • @doubt3430
      @doubt3430 Год назад +3

      Also the medalusas flame strike cannon probably has more range than a WMG since they can just portal the blast to a location

    • @wilfordpadio3900
      @wilfordpadio3900 Год назад +2

      remember Gatlantis will just send an interdimensinal submarine wolfpack and done

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@kellenwong1682 not really.. sadly in 2202 the writers ended up resorting to ship spamming while they seemed to have at least tactics at the beginning

  • @houseredoranuberalles4740
    @houseredoranuberalles4740 Месяц назад

    That's a one gun salute, folks. One shot from one Andromeda = one Supremacy+One First Order fleet. Game over! End credits!

  • @Xeno88
    @Xeno88 Год назад +11

    Lol imagine that each of that WMG is replaced with a transit WMG. So it will be spamming thousands of transit WMG LOL

    • @ignaciosindhu6779
      @ignaciosindhu6779 Год назад +1

      Okay, remember how Yamato's Transit WMG managed to destroy/paralyze the Ark of Destruction which was about the size of Saturn. It's just one WMG
      If UNCF ever develops and mass-produces those WMG variants, I don't think we'll need fleet anymore.
      Cause the barrage of that weapons could burn a solar system to a crisp in a week or less

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ignaciosindhu6779 the transit WMG was more an accident than a development.. and it was utterly dangerous.. it would had killed the Yamato crew on firing (Dessler helped them using the Deusla II as a shield )

    • @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209
      @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@sparrowltyeah and even if they were to built type of ships as shield for transit wave motion gun they can only be fired once and the muzzle will practically melt.

    • @porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184
      @porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209the design of the Arizona in the upcoming SBY 3199 May hint at a Weaponized Transit Wave Motion gun that could be survivable without the Desula II

    • @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209
      @ultrawolfhumphreykagayakek3209 3 месяца назад +2

      @@porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184 guess we'll just have to wait and see it when 3199 came out.

  • @devmag52
    @devmag52 10 месяцев назад +5

    Don’t f$&@ with wave motion energy, son.

    • @Alan17015
      @Alan17015 7 месяцев назад

      haha
      Big fleet go boom

  • @optimusprime1500
    @optimusprime1500 Год назад +8

    波動砲艦隊の前ならファーストオーダーの戦力なんかちっぽけなもんよ

  • @Mid_Range_Destruction-31
    @Mid_Range_Destruction-31 Год назад +17

    The empire:
    fire on those tiny ships (no effect)
    lunch fighters (intercepted by even more fighters)
    Death Star shoots (got deflected be like)
    The UNCF:
    Andromeda's having better mobility, defence, offence, Weapons
    then fire's a wave despersion gun (wiping out 70% empire's fleet)
    then more wave despersion guns fired by smaller ships

    • @hyperman8690
      @hyperman8690 Год назад +1

      See eckartladders supremacy video then say anything lmao

    • @sneeki8082
      @sneeki8082 Год назад +2

      ​@@hyperman8690 they would still run circles around any star destroyer, try again

    • @hyperman8690
      @hyperman8690 Год назад

      @@sneeki8082 admiral thrawne has better tactics

    • @polmeria465
      @polmeria465 Год назад +3

      ​@@hyperman8690tactics won't matter when you're getting fucked by cosmo tigers and shock cannons lmao

    • @hyperman8690
      @hyperman8690 Год назад +1

      @@polmeria465 yeah i wonder how is yamato going to tank lore accurate turbolaser which can destroy continents

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 11 месяцев назад +16

    Not even a contest. Most of the stuff in Yamato would feel right at home in Warhammer 40k.

    • @charlie_magne_103
      @charlie_magne_103 11 месяцев назад +11

      Some 40k fans told me when I was telling them about Space Battleship Yamato and especially the Wave Motion Guns, that the Wave Motion Guns would be OP in 40k, due to its ability to wipe out an entire fleet

    • @IBW_3000
      @IBW_3000 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@charlie_magne_103 as the average fan will tell you: FOR THE EMPEROR!

    • @charlie_magne_103
      @charlie_magne_103 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@IBW_3000 I will Wave Motion Cannon the entire Chaos Warfleet

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 3 месяца назад

      @@charlie_magne_103 Why stop there? Helm, Set course for the Eye of Terror. We are going to Wave Motion the CHaos Gods!!

  • @steve4nj
    @steve4nj 8 месяцев назад +5

    THE YAMATO HERSELF ALONE COULD HAVE DEFEATED THE ENTIRE FLEET PLUS THE DEATH STAR

  • @foxsparrow8973
    @foxsparrow8973 3 месяца назад +1

    Star Wars has the force, but Star Blazers has space goddesses

  • @glomibabel1894
    @glomibabel1894 11 месяцев назад +3

    even one yamato can destroy whole star wars galaxy😂😂😂

  • @CharlieErikson95
    @CharlieErikson95 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can’t believe that I’m saying this but take ‘em out Andromeda!!!!

  • @Stellar001100
    @Stellar001100 2 месяца назад

    Each one of the Andromedas are basically Death Stars. Small, agile Death Stars.

  • @vinrisan3509
    @vinrisan3509 8 месяцев назад +1

    9/10

  • @margiebumgarner7860
    @margiebumgarner7860 Год назад +2

    VENJIX FIRST FORM: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

  • @CptCrazyWolfMan01
    @CptCrazyWolfMan01 Год назад +3

    Ya star wars ships dont stand a chance in this battle

  • @ipryan5843
    @ipryan5843 Год назад +4

    Fire on that cruiser? Tahts a fleet

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад +1

      sir those are battleships ..just to be correct

    • @ipryan5843
      @ipryan5843 11 месяцев назад

      @@sparrowlt it’s called cosmo fleet

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад

      @@ipryan5843 Yamanami Fleet

    • @Alan17015
      @Alan17015 3 месяца назад

      Wave motion gun fleet

  • @margiebumgarner7860
    @margiebumgarner7860 Год назад +4

    (TARGETS BEEPING)

  • @DartLuke
    @DartLuke Год назад +4

    Portal weapon from last season of Picard… or just mass bomb teleportation on board of all those andromeda ships

    • @jagdson2701
      @jagdson2701 Год назад +5

      UNCF and Starfleet have not encountered each other for obvious reasons, and both have a habit of trying to talk before shooting. They'll be having tea before the commercial break.

    • @DartLuke
      @DartLuke 11 месяцев назад

      @@jagdson2701 Klingons, Romulans, Dominion, Kardasians, Borg...

  • @margiebumgarner7860
    @margiebumgarner7860 Год назад +2

    VENJIX FIRST FORM: YOU'RE MINE!

  • @EdwardChan.999
    @EdwardChan.999 Год назад +1

    Two of the worst entries to their respective series...

  • @user-zv2vm8bd8h
    @user-zv2vm8bd8h 11 месяцев назад +4

    A single Wave Motion Gun could do that. You didn't need all the retarded cringe from 2202's Battle of Saturn. Just have the Yamato shooting them with its WMG and it would display the point perfectly.

    • @sneeki8082
      @sneeki8082 11 месяцев назад

      nah, the dispersion wmg is a fleet killer, dont think yamato's can expand

    • @user-zv2vm8bd8h
      @user-zv2vm8bd8h 11 месяцев назад

      @@sneeki8082 Dude, what video did you just watch?

    • @sneeki8082
      @sneeki8082 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-zv2vm8bd8h the wmg on yamato only has one mode, so well, one andromeda is more like it

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 11 месяцев назад

      @@sneeki8082 the Andromeda and Dreadnought WMG is more flexible for fleet wide engagements.. the Yamato is still very effective against close formation fleets as shown in Teresart