Space Battleship Yamato - Ship Breakdown
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- Alasdair is here to break down the unique Space Battleship Yamato.
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*Gives warp tech to humanity*
Humans: Ima make a gun out of this.
It was a gift...humans are using the gift for weapons first. Same was with nuclear energy....
tbf they probably would never have made it without that gun
@@Hellsparkt
I bet it would be far more about stealth and surprising the enemy...even is *Stasha* spirit is still present on board.
@@WadcaWymiaru not really....with a one year time limit...its probably more about speed than stealth....Yurisha's* spirit & body is on there as the secondary (or main...depending on how you view it) mission to return her to Iskandar, along with getting the Cosmo Reverse System....
Actually, I believe it's stated in the series that Wave Motion Cannon was developed by Iskandarians as well, but the devastation brought forward by such a DeathStar like weapon was too much for even them.
Forgot one very important bit of information:
The ships artificial gravity was created by the shear size of Captain Okita's balls
So even his ghost balls provided the artificial gravity after his death?
Heretic Nep Exactly!
OmegaEnvych he has balls of adamantium
You made me spit my Coke.
@DarthSarcom You forgot one very important bit of information: "shear" size has *nothing* to do with gravity.....(though balls that have 'shears' is a terrifying idea), however their SHEER size (and/or density) could be very gravitationally important.
....words mean things.
Me explaining the anime to a friend
Friend: so is it a spaceship, a plane, a submarine or a boat?
Me: yes
It is a hotel!
Also a planet destroying artillery.
I wanna pit this ship against a certain super-AI technologically advanced warship with the same name.
Tries also to explain the TARDIS to friend...
Its a police box... but its bigger... in the inside. @_@!
@@leehongjin6884 ARS NOVA Yamato?
Seeing the Yamato spinning on its axis while firing was BRILLIANT!! Even as a kid when Starblazers was released in America, I always thought "all they have to do is fly under it and they can't fire back." Well, I guess Venture upgraded his piloting skills to basically be like Wash from Firefly and make the Yamato a leaf on the wind.
I was already blubbering when I read that.. an hour more will do wonders for my eyes.
Not only that the bottom hill is now a a self contained missile and ecm weappn
Let's try spinning, that's a cool trick!
Im a leaf on the wind, watch how I soa......
@@heathb4319 DUDE! Too soon!
Can we just appreciate how the animators actually did research on the WW2 ship
That's Leiji Matsumoto for ya
@@thelimesheep4324 when the series was originally made in the 70's they thought the ship had sunk mostly intact. They only figured out that it was split in half recently
Yes. They also have a Kantai Space Battleship Yamato. Just look it up.
@@Iluvlollipops how the fuck in the 70's did they think it was intact. The navy put in well over 30 hits of bombs and torpedoes, and they knew its magazine detonated underwater in a colossal explosion. And when ships magazines go they almost always shatter or split in half.
Joshua Schulz cause most ww2 were so well armored that they withstood most explosions , for sinking a ship you dont need that huge hole, look up some ww2 wrecks and you will see how much of a ship remains intact
*thinks hull design is silly for space*
*hears reason for design*
"Proceed."
Michael Lathrop also. It very often benefits from the amphibious capabilities of its hull. That allows it to land on oceans easily
I mean, fuck it, if we're running antigravity and FTL tech, make the ships look however we god damn please
It actually is, in all honesty. Hundreds of tons of useless extra mass in the form of (by modern standards) low-grade steel armor that might have been effective against WWII battleship guns, but won't do a bit of good against nuclear weaponry (or other weapons even more powerful), but will greatly impair acceleration/deceleration and maneuverability, as well as massively increase fuel consumption.
Loved the show though.
@@Hibernicus1968 If you have the sort of energy generation onboard necessary for antigravity and FTL, I can't see a few hundred tons being incredibly important. But actually, battleship armor has been tested against and holds up well against nuclear weapons. Look into the Crossroads nuclear test. You're vastly underestimating the sheer strength-through-bulk of eighteen inch thick steel plate. That's a ridiculous amount of metal, event a contact nuclear detonation isn't guaranteed to blast through the belt. You'd be right to point out here that the vast majority of the ship isn't armored to that level, but the Yamato's armor design was essentially a very well armored box with everything critical inside it. Thin areas are still 8"+ thickness in the citadel.
@@polygondwanaland8390 Mass is ALWAYS important. No vehicle that is really meant to perform carries extra mass. Mass means extra energy needed to propel it, stop it, change its direction. If two ships carry the same armament and have the same power plant and fuel capacity, but one carries 20 or 30 percent more of it's total mass as dead weight, than that heavier ship is ALWAYS going to be a huge performance disadvantage. Why would you design a ship that way? It's a needless inefficiency, and certainly not a luxury you can afford when the survival or your species is at stake.
And the battleships you mention holding up against nuclear weapons, really didn't. They were on the periphery of nuclear tests at Bikini atoll and other locations. They survived not the nuclear blast itself, but a shock wave generated by the blast, at some distance. That's a far cry from near or direct hits. Cheyenne Mountain's 25 ton blast doors, made of much higher strength steel than Yamato's armor were only expected to withstand blasts two or more kilometers away. And I remind you, some of the advanced weaponry we are talking about in this scenario is SUPERIOR to nuclear weapons. Steel armor that Japan could manufacture in the 1930s is simply NOT going to provide much protection against this level of weaponry. To provide adequate protection, you're going to need some kind of super-strong, high tech unobtanium alloy, or you are going to need energy shields. In either case, it makes no logical sense to repurpose Yamato's hull. It would be like trying to turn the HMS Victory into a submarine capable of reaching a depth of 90 meters. MAYBE you could do it, if you were ingenious enough, and threw enough money at it, but it would make a lot more sense to start with a clean sheet of paper.
My favorite update of this reiteration of Yamato is the hybrid mode main cannons. When she fires a physical AP ammo like she did in ep two against Gamilas carrier, you can hear "clunk" impact sound AND then explosion afterwards. If you look closely you can even see a scene of delay detonator kicking in too.
IFHE?
@45Kimber1911A1
It was
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@45Kimber1911A1 no problem and
It is where you last left it
Seeing this makes me wish the Yamato wasn’t sunk just so I could hear the roar of her 18.1 inch main guns. Those bad boys must have been scarily impressive to hear
@@williamcote4208 They were rarely used. Due to their size, they were wire wrapped(similar to SCBA tanks which use a fiberglass wrap to augment the strength of the tank). They could not be rebored, only replaced. There was only one ship set up to transport guns that size(Munition ship Kashino), and it was sunk in 1942.
I guess next comes a German version - Space Battleship Bismarck.
And then have them battle each other form maximum epicness.
At least it never had to face the US space destroyer Hoel!
@WhomItMayConcern would make a good tragedy.
But then again, we did enjoy a show about hotel Yamato, so who knows 😁
@@scottmcdivitt2187 How about the space destroyer Johnston or Laffey (the Sumner-class one that would not die)?
And American version: Space Battleship Iowa. Just an entire fleet of space battleships and support craft. That is the dream.
@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak Johnson would be another great one, but Hoel was the one whose Torpedoes escorted Yamato out of the combat zone 😁
The Yamato and the Battlestar Galactica would get along just fine, I think.
"So... you have to save humanity too, eh?"
Most legendary smalltalk ever
"Yup, heading to earth, where we'll find a lush new fertile home and salvation."
"Ah..."
"What?"
"Oh, nothing, nothing. Good luck with that. Gotta go!"
LOL
But imo Gamilams were better foes than Cylons, they were real and … BSG is an empty Ronald Moore series, could have been better
What about the UNSC
@Stripey ArseThat made me imagine a couple of grannies beating up street hoodlums.
What I absolutely love about the 2199 reboot is that they turned a whole lot of plotholes around. For instance, Yuki Moris likelyness to Princess Sasha (or was it Isha? I cant remember), which was only referenced in about two episodes of the original and quickly forgotten, becomes a full political ploy in the new one.
Lord Desslar turned from literally Space Hitler to a Leader with far more nuanced personality and understandable motives, even showing kindness and forgiveness at times. (He still goes batshit crazy at the end though)
Yamato 2199 is a remake done right!
well in 2202 it did explain why Desslar did in 2199
@@nazreenpg Id like to watch 2202, but my prefered Anime site doesnt have it and Crunchyroll has it region locked.
@@LtCWest try this one animestory. online/anime/uchuu-senkan-yamato-2202-ai-no-senshi-tachi , it's still on episode 18, 19-22 came out next month "maybe"
@@kusada3035
Thank you, ill check it out. ^^
Another big plus was not having Yuki be the ship's only girl who had 50-billion jobs.
I love a great many 'hero' ships in scifi, but I always felt that the Yamato probably had the single most epic story behind it.
The funny thing about that revolving "carousel" fighter hanger launch and retrieval system is that on the original show that started in 1974 through 1983, it wasn't a thing.
The fighter bay and the much smaller Wave Motion Engine room (that the hanger surrounds) were - aside from the ship being significantly larger than the original canon (333 Meters vs original 265) - were arguably the biggest internal departures from the original depiction. And they are absolute ingenious additions to the concept. (more below)
In the original, there was actually supposed to be an open space in the middle - a short "runway" ending in a drop out of the rear hatch downward. On either side of that "runway" were "Shelves" where the fighters were stored/parked. Three(3) levels high (though animation mistakes sometimes made this Four(4) levels high)) and 4 rows back on either side for a total of 24 spaces.
There was actually supposed to be an UPPER Fighter bay where a similar arrangement (reversed) led to two launch tubes forward of the catapult launchers. This fighter bay was almost never shown in operation. In total the original fighter complement of the original series Yamato was supposedly 48 fighters.
Needless to say - if you do the geometry, (particularly taking note of the MUCH larger engine room somehow sandwiched between the lower and upper fighter bays) this is WILDLY impossible, and the original Yamato would've had to have been 600 meters in length for this to even get close to working as portrayed. The original series Yamato had to be part TARDIS! The length of the ship was always canonized at 265 meters despite all of this because that's nearly exactly the length of the original sea-going battleship Yamato and the producers insisted that it stay that way.
Why? Because the original Space Battleship was supposed to be LITERALLY the old wreck refurbished. This is also wildly impossible now that we understand two things - first - we now have a much better understanding of the process of corrosion at those depths. In 200 years there will not BE any wreckage left to resurrect, there will only be nodules of iron oxide and maybe a few scraps of the thicker armor sections left. (For comparison the Titanic will be COMPLETELY gone in about 100 years - possibly less) The other thing that kind of kills the concept of a resurrected Yamato is that the wreck is in worse shape than originally thought when the show began in 1974. (In fact they hadn't even FOUND the wreck until after the original run of the shows and movies concluded in 1983!) They thought it sank in one piece and landed upright. But in fact, the Yamato is broken badly into 3 distinct chunks and two of them are upside down. Yeah - that ain't happening...
So the remake version is NOT the original resurrected Battleship. It's built in the same spot. And likely the high concentration of iron ore from the original wreck helped disguise the construction from sensors. And it is built largely in the same shape - also for camouflage (but also for other reasons which don't bear going into in this post). But the space version is - as noted above - larger than the original.
And the engine room and fighter bay block make MUCH more sense than the original. Also - the remake makes it clear that the ship only carries 24 fighters in the fighter bay - plus the two Cosmo Zero catapult launched fighters - for a total of 26, not 48. The rotating launch system not only works - and also FITS in the space depicted - but it's AWESOMELY COOL to watch in operation!
As a big fan of the original - I have to say the designers have kept the spirit of the Yamato intact while plugging numerous holes in logic and volume. This really is the best possible version of the Yamato.
Also - Spacedock's summary is dead on and comprehensive in scope. Well done, guys!
Dude, I agree with all this because its 100% true
If you watch the original series and look at the shelving units that the black tigers were stored in...
Where the f did the shelves disappear to when they were lowered to allow the planes above to launch. That sht just disappeared into the hull.
@@icehead0123 Best guess - at least for CONCEPT - is that there was a space for the platforms to drop into at floor level that - when all the fighters on that stack were launched, was just big enough for the platforms to stack such that the top one was flush with the "runway". And that as the fighters came back aboard, the first one to land would be raised to the top, then the next one would go to the middle position, then the last platform would raise just a little bit and go flush with the floor again.
This of course doesn't take into account that the fighters closest to the bottom drop-out hatch wouldn't have much space to taxi to drop or stop when they came back in. The only way to alleviate that would be to have the stacks be movable horizontally as well as vertically on the old "shelf" concept. Which starts making even this old grognards head start to hurt.
Oh - and here's another thing to make your head hurt. Somehow the old bottom hanger was supposed to be able to handle OTHER standard craft landing and launching - like the medical boats and the recon planes. And the torpedo boat from 2nd season. And where in gods name were THOSE supposed to go when landed?
No - the carousel concept is FAR superior and makes as much sense both organizationally and spatially as we are ever going to get out of this franchise. Thank GOD they updated it to this!
As well as added the hangers for handling non-fighter craft and craft of odd configurations and displacement to the blisters on the sides of the hull. (like the "Seagull" landing craft and the captured Gamilas fighters)
@@logandarklighter what's the tittle of the remake show? I watch the live action film, it was interesting but then I saw a clip of the remake anime and now I have to watch it but I don't know the tittle.
j Chin Yamato 2199 for the Iscandar journey. And Yamato 2202 for the Comet Empire storyline.
Me looks at youtube:
SPACEDOCK DID WHAT?!
(chokes on water)
Pretty much the same here!
I had the same response. Alasdair was perfect as the narrator of the video.
Smithsonian quality!
I definitely got way too excited by this. So happy to seem them do this justice!
Yep, same here!
*Yamato battle song plays intensively*
I was just singing it, when I saw your comment!
UCHUU SENKAN YAAAAAMAAAAATOOOO
We’re off to outer space
We’re leaving mother Earth
To save, the human race
Our Star Blazers
That theme always gets me pumped when I hear it.
@@mjohnson5030 Searching for a distant star,
Heading off to Iscandar,
Leaving all we love behind,
WHO KNOWS WHAT DANGERS WE'LL FIND!?!
With the passing of Leiji Matsumoto, can you make more videos on the space ships in his works? It would be greatly appreciated by the fans of the Matsumoto’s works
I was always partial to the shock cannons as my favorite methos of destruction. The way they sounded when fired, and then wove into a single devastatuing blast was just too awesome for me.
"We must be strong and brave
Our home we have to save
If we don’t in just one year
Mother Earth will disappear"
"Sailing off to distant stars
Heading off to iscandar
Here we find and when we arive
The earth will survive with Yamato"
"Fighting off the Gamilons
We wont stop until we've won.
Then we'll return and when we arrive... The Earth will survive with our STARBLAAAAAZZZEEERRSS!!!!
UCHUUUUU SENKAAAN YAAAAAAAMAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
These translations are out of date. Check the newer one it sounds a lot better
Sir Illuminar The Valient, that's an opinion, they both are awesome.
Edit: (fixed a misspelling)
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As a child I remember seeing this ship in action on the anime Star Blazers as it was called at the time. To see them make the journey to Iscandar in season one and then fight off the Comet Empire in season two was thrilling. I know they changed the characters for the US as they did Speed Racer, but that ship was the beast. Go Yamato!!!
I agree this ship for it's size was beyond formidable! When they single handedly destroyed Gamilon, you saw that! The Wave Motion gun ignited every volcano on the planet's surface, and her shock cannons ripped apart their entire continental shelf! So this baby in a battle would be my first ship to go into combat with! Plus her crew was so much like family and with that bond and determination you know why the Star Force was literally the force to be reckoned with!!
I first watched the American version (Star Blazers) when I was six and visiting my grandparents house in Texas. It wasn't on my TV networks back in Georgia, and I loved it. 41 years later I still watch Star Blazers as well as the other versions I've found. Still one of the best sci fi stories I've ever seen.
I watched this in the early late 70’s or early 80’s in ATL Georgia on “channel 46”
@@michaelwills1926 I grew up in Norcross but by the early 80's 46 wasn't playing it. I discovered the show out in Dallas when I went to visit with my grandparents for several weeks! I looked forward to summer visits in part for that show!
Awww! You omitted her awesome anti aircraft/anti-missile turrets! I love seeing those open a hail of fire to kill off fighters or missiles- and in 2202, the old girl gets a ton more AA coverage! Like double!
"All guns open fire on the Comet Empire! ALL GUNS!"
Don't forget the Times when they use the anti air Guns as close quarters to Tear holes into the Enemy ship
Those guns are stupid. Modern CIWS can do better. And if you want to go with calibers like the Star Cruiser Argo's AA defense, the Italians are finishing the development of their advanced 76.2 mm gun at has a high rate of fire, self guiding rounds, and variable ammo types. A gun that would make the Swedish jealous of it's advanced development.
@@WolfeSaber9933 ????
@@Trix35k What, you haven't kept up with military technology development?
That’s no hotel…
She's a Battleship XD and in the future a Space Battleship XD
nichodo the Yamato gained the nickname “Hotel Yamato” because it’s crew did nothing throughout the war.
Dogemacht42 also the living standards were very high
... It's a STARSHIP!!
sure that one thing to say
Yaaamaaatooooo. I missed this show and it's films. Thanks for covering this ship Spacedock.
SBY 2199. I just love and hate that series at the same time. Story was great (although not without its cliches) and I really liked to watch it (that was some binge). But HOLY SHIT, what they did to physics. That poor thing just cried in corner everytime I watched another episode.
What anime is this
@@Anstras1_431 Space Battleship Yamato 2199. There is a second season 2202 currently ongoing too.
Crunchyroll has this show
@@safeguardprime5914
This is actually a Funimation release.
Physical and English Dub stream are FUNi's while Crunchy streams the sub. The front half of 2199 is available for retail purchase as of this post.
It’s really a glorious hero ship. One of the best of all time, maybe. The classic frame with all of the new tech integrated so seamlessly is really an achievement. Yamato was a failure as a battleship - she came along right at the moment that aircraft began to radically shift the prominent doctrines of naval warfare, and she was the anchor of a fleet that was basically doomed from the moment it struck at Pearl Harbor, as Adm. Yamamoto has said. It really is great to see her resurrected in shows like this one though, because she was such a beautiful weapon. Space Battleship Yamato is a great series, and if you were interested in it after seeing this review, just know that it only covers one version of the ship from one of the shows - there are like... a dozen or more, of varying quality of course which is understandable since they date back to the 1970s (this is the 2012 version, Space Battleship Yamato 2199), but some of the rest are also great. Give them a shot!
I know it’ll never happen, but I’d love to see some of the US Iowa-class or even Montana-class get a similar treatment. I can imagine a combined fleet of say, 12-15 space battleships drawn from the great ships of the Japanese, US, UK & German navies of WWII defending the solar system and fighting back an overpowering alien fleet, dodging through the asteroid belt for cover, using the gravity wells of planets to gain speed or to hide behind in order to launch a surprise attack, taking advantage of their relative strengths to balance each other’s weaknesses, and great moments when they form up and “cross the T” to obliterate the enemy - maybe they’re fighting an enemy that has little knowledge of naval warfare, and has only ever fought battles in space and this somehow gives the underdog Earthlings a leg up on them, with ships that fought each other in WWII sacrificing themselves for each other to save the day. I mean, it will never happen... but in my mind, it’s a really cool story.
I guess I just really love ships, which is strange considering I spent 10 months on a really shitty one at the beginning of the Iraq War (but for all the trash I’ll talk about the SS Wright, it wasn’t all bad). I wish there were more ways to enjoy them outside of documentaries that try to be action movies, action movies that make the ships just “the setting” instead of a character, video games which just focus on “collecting” them (what’s even the point of that?) and shows which turn them into cute girls somehow, which is... just really, *really* freakin’ weird. Anime concepts are like that though - when they hit the target, they can be AWESOME, but when they miss it, holy *shit* do they miss hard.
Great review of a great ship in a great show - thanks for making it, I only wish it would have been longer and more in depth!
Joe Mitchell hi. Clearly you don’t know. But space battleship Arizona is a lore ship from part three. It’s more if a new design. Not really based on the original but a totally new and unique design like the andromeda. But it’s still the american space battleship.
you want dreadnaught game? because this is how you get dreadnaught game!!!
Personally have to agree. Bizmark, Yamamoto, Arizona, Missouri all decked and heading into space...that would make a damned awesome show.
But to also be fair, throw in the entire fleets of all of them as well.
Sooo thanks to you imma make a google doc and start writing a fanfic I think I might call it Fight On Yamato! WWII joins the fray.
Basically what you said but if you have a better idea share please after all I’m mostly just going to have WWII BBs
Funny you should mention the concept of various international ships being converted to space battleships - or at least the names of those ships being used on new contemporary ships of modern construction. Because in the 1981 Yamato III TV series - that's EXACTLY what they did! Do a web search on Yamato III Space Battleship Arizona to see her design. It's really quite lovely.
Please do the Andromeda class and the Dreadnought class. (Yamato 2202)
Also, some of the Gamilas & Comet Empire ships.
Yes, Yamato!!! Next SDF-1 Macross? Or Arcadia from Captain Harlock?
Echo Whiskey Harlock AND the Yamato!! You sir, have good taste!
@@richarddoig1865 well other than that, what's left of Japanese space sci-fi? Bebop?
Brunhild and Hyperion from LoGH, and Exelion from Gunbuster.
nimay13 they did bebop and also a lot of random ships from Gundams the left for them to do
I would specifically say the Arcadia from Arcadia of My Youth, that's the the one with the giant 'jolly roger' on the front.
I do love that revolver hangar bay. A similar one (inspired by this) is found on the Pacific 201!
It a very cool idea 👍
Pretty sure it's based upon carousel parking structures.
@@revbladez5773
If live action, probably cheaper to pretend there's artificial gravity then make everything float.
Anything else, no idea.
@@revbladez5773 the better questen is, why dont they use the same gravity technology to make the heavy stuff weight nothing and move them freely around
like they do in Perry Rhodan
Bookshelf type hanger from the old series doesn't really make sense dimensionwise . The revolver hanger is the only way to accommodate for the engine and hanger in the same space.
Infinity : man, you have through lot of problem
Battlestar : damn must be hard to be you
Yamato : it's hard but i enjoy every second of it
Im from Japan, growing with Yamato 2199. I'm very happy that you abroad guys also love this show and our lovely ship.
YES FINALLY!!! I’VE BEEN REQUESTING THIS SHIP FOR MONTHS NOW AND IT IS WELL WORTH THE WAIT!!!!
do you know the name of tha anime these images are from?
Magnetar 117 Space Battleship Yamato 2199 or on Funimation it is called Star Blazers
This is a remade version, Yamato was also a classic title. I want to say early 80s, maybe older.
@@brandondavis8005 1974-1975. Another era before 1979's Mobile Suit Gundam, and it kinda shows considering how the female cast members where utilized in the story. There is some merit to Tomino's 'boys with boobs', as it at-least was different too crew members trying to sneak a peek at some lady underpants (Although I must admit I have only seen scene's of the '70s version. Yamato 2199 (2012-2013) was an amazing reboot, updated to modern visual and story standards, while still keeping the major elements and character design into place.
Amen.
This is how you do scifi ships. Keep your phaser strips and mile long Star Destroyers with it's tiny guns. I want big guns tearing ships apart! Give me more turret swinging broadsides! And mega beam guns are the most dakka!
Have you seen Harlock: Space Pirate? Its similar somwhat in design, but with more "realistic" space fighting turret rotation.
I love Harlock!
@@khartog01 Who doesn't?
khartog01
painted in red, perhaps?
They would get additional speed if it was.
The Yamato is one of the best designed ships in all scifi. Take a Ocean going warship from WWII and build a spaceship inside its old hull and make it not just seem feasible but show how it does it all. That Space fighter storage system is by far one of the most thought out mechanisms espically considering when it was made people didnt care as much about realism in their entertainment as we do now!
I like how they changed Space Battleship Yamato from being the original ship to a different ship. The original show was made before they found the wreck, so they didn’t know that she was blown in two and partially upside down
Plus how this Yamato id 333m and the original was less than 300m. I think
@@lbco13 265m in original classic. I just copy paste but he explain why the remake truly make sense than the original
The funny thing about that revolving "carousel" fighter hanger launch and retrieval system is that on the original show that started in 1974 through 1983, it wasn't a thing.
The fighter bay and the much smaller Wave Motion Engine room (that the hanger surrounds) were - aside from the ship being significantly larger than the original canon (333 Meters vs original 265) - were arguably the biggest internal departures from the original depiction. And they are absolute ingenious additions to the concept. (more below)
In the original, there was actually supposed to be an open space in the middle - a short "runway" ending in a drop out of the rear hatch downward. On either side of that "runway" were "Shelves" where the fighters were stored/parked. Three(3) levels high (though animation mistakes sometimes made this Four(4) levels high)) and 4 rows back on either side for a total of 24 spaces.
There was actually supposed to be an UPPER Fighter bay where a similar arrangement (reversed) led to two launch tubes forward of the catapult launchers. This fighter bay was almost never shown in operation. In total the original fighter complement of the original series Yamato was supposedly 48 fighters.
Needless to say - if you do the geometry, (particularly taking note of the MUCH larger engine room somehow sandwiched between the lower and upper fighter bays) this is WILDLY impossible, and the original Yamato would've had to have been 600 meters in length for this to even get close to working as portrayed. The original series Yamato had to be part TARDIS! The length of the ship was always canonized at 265 meters despite all of this because that's nearly exactly the length of the original sea-going battleship Yamato and the producers insisted that it stay that way.
Why? Because the original Space Battleship was supposed to be LITERALLY the old wreck refurbished. This is also wildly impossible now that we understand two things - first - we now have a much better understanding of the process of corrosion at those depths. In 200 years there will not BE any wreckage left to resurrect, there will only be nodules of iron oxide and maybe a few scraps of the thicker armor sections left. (For comparison the Titanic will be COMPLETELY gone in about 100 years - possibly less) The other thing that kind of kills the concept of a resurrected Yamato is that the wreck is in worse shape than originally thought when the show began in 1974. (In fact they hadn't even FOUND the wreck until after the original run of the shows and movies concluded in 1983!) They thought it sank in one piece and landed upright. But in fact, the Yamato is broken badly into 3 distinct chunks and two of them are upside down. Yeah - that ain't happening...
So the remake version is NOT the original resurrected Battleship. It's built in the same spot. And likely the high concentration of iron ore from the original wreck helped disguise the construction from sensors. And it is built largely in the same shape - also for camouflage (but also for other reasons which don't bear going into in this post). But the space version is - as noted above - larger than the original.
And the engine room and fighter bay block make MUCH more sense than the original. Also - the remake makes it clear that the ship only carries 24 fighters in the fighter bay - plus the two Cosmo Zero catapult launched fighters - for a total of 26, not 48. The rotating launch system not only works - and also FITS in the space depicted - but it's AWESOMELY COOL to watch in operation!
As a big fan of the original - I have to say the designers have kept the spirit of the Yamato intact while plugging numerous holes in logic and volume. This really is the best possible version of the Yamato.
An unexpected surprise. But a welcome one.
General Misquoti
*A surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one.
ThePCguy17
I wasn't aware I was quoting something?
The Guarding Dark
Unsurprising. If you don't follow the Star Wars prequel meme culture, you'd have no reason to know that Palpatine says "A surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one." And you also wouldn't have any reason to know that this line became a meme in the prequel meme community.
Wow, another prequel memer, hello there
*_Big Damn Hero Ship!!_*
And it's amazing how much sci fi it has inspired: Macross (Robotech), Crusade, _and arguably_ Battlestar Galactica.
Also possibly the originator of the BFG trope on top of that.
@@dolomaticus1180 It could also be sci fi's trope-maker for _carrier launched single-seat fighter craft._
On his channel, EC Henry makes a strong case that Yamato inspired Star Wars.
AND the original show somewhat was an inspiration for Star Wars. Analyzer/IQ9 is somewhat like R2D2, while the WW2 like space dogfights present in the show can be seen during the Battle of Yavin.
@@TheVeritas1 FFS, I wish I saw your comment, because I literally just made the same comment.
This is just magical. You sit, relax and marvel at a completly visual wonder of a seafaring vessel crossing the void
Thank you SpaceDock for bringing this mighty ship. I can't wait for you guys to cover all the UNCN, Gamalis Fleet, and Galantis Fleet!
Love this Ship!!!!
Maybe Gamilan Ships too?
Julian Tdama what’s this ship from??
Space battleship Yamato or Star Blazers or Uchuu Senkan Yamato
@@ComradeCommissarYuri This specific version of it is from the recent remake (Space Battleship Yamato: 2199). Very worth watching.
@@djyppo specifically Yamato 2199...
@@GaldirEonai this one is bigger than the original I think as well.... Still pleasing to see its guns rip ships in half☺
Gotta love the retro future aesthetic.
Well in the story of the anime, Yamato sank in one piece and came to rest on the sea floor right side up. This allowed them to use her frame as a basis to rebuild her into space battleship Yamato.
In real life however, Yamato is sitting in 2 pieces on the sea floor with her rear half being upsidedown. When she capsized after 11 torpedoes to her port, her forward magazine ignited and split her in 2.
@@tennoshenaniganizer9234 You, I like you.
@@tennoshenaniganizer9234 I love it when people talk lore to me...
At the time the original was made the wreckage of the yamato wasent discovered and was thought to have sanked in one piece. In the remake the yamato is used as camoflage.
@@veryorignalname4804 That explains a lot.
One on The Andromeda from space battleship yamato would be cool as well.
I love Space Battleship Yamato 2199!! Never grew tired of rewatching it.
I'm watching Yamato 2202 now, but I'm a bit disappointed that the Gatlantis Empire's ship types are not as varied as the Gamilans'. They have a freaking space submarine that travels between dimensions for cryin' out loud!
As a fan of the WW2 Super Battleship Yamato and sci fi, it's very IMPRESSIVE!!!
*inhales*
Ya-ma-TO!!!
It's also funny how Brits pronounce "Nicaragua".
I know, his pronunciation is killing me! Italians are not much better when it comes to them pronouncing Japanese words!
*sees the thumbnail*
Ohhhhh~~I already know this is gonna be good.
This ship is such a goddamn beast, I love it. Probably my favorite ship in all of science fiction. Not only does it look cool as hell but it kicks so much ass. And it's got that mystique and romance of actually, physically being the world's favorite real-life battleship fixed up to fly in space and ready for another showdown against overwhelming odds, but this time getting to fight for everybody.
and of course that theme song fuckin slaps
thank you Spacedock for making a video about the Space Battleship Yamato , i love the show Specially the reboot of 2199 its a great Space opera , and what makes it even more special for me, is that my father watched the original yamato when he was a child
theres a second season now btw
@@laryyan1358 yes i nou . i am stuk at episodes 13 of the english dub at the momend .
It restarts on February 2nd.
I watched the original too(or Star Blazers) as a kid. I wasn't sure how the reboot would be but I'm Definitely impressed at the upgrade and that it holds true to the original as well. Hand drawn with just enough cgi is awesome!
This is quite possibly the ONLY remake that has ever truly matched and even exceeded the original. But that's what we should expect when the remake is done by people who are part of the cult of the Yamato. And yes, I consider us cultists, not mere fans!
Probably one of the coolest spaceships of all sci-fi
I hope you make a video regarding the Andromeda class SuperBattleships as they're equally formidable as the Yamato.
Sooo happy to see the Yamato on here, she's a favorite of mine both as a ship and as a series. This is specifically the remake/boot version, I'd love to see you tackle the more fantastically weird original series Yamato one day too.
UCHUUUUUU SENKANNNMM YAAAAAAAA MAAAAA TOOOOOO
*hums theme music*
SARABA...CHIKYUU YO....
@@Tenkuuken TABIDATSU FUNE WAAA
UCHUU....SENKANUUU...YAMATOOO....
Pleasant surprise, didn't expect to see the Yamato featured but well presented, I had totally forgotten about the revolver launch bay.
I must admit, that is one way to bring the Yamato back to life.
SBY 2199 (and to an extent 2202) is a rather well done remake/reenvision of the original series.
I have only seen clips and pictures of the Yamato and didn't think much of it. But after seeing this it changed my mind and the fact that the animators did their research on old WW2 ships and they made one into a space faring war machine is just so awesome.
He did it, the absolute madman
Oh my god, you actually did it! You did the ship that I grew up with, and is the reason I'm a fan girl for the real life Yamato
In case you missed it, there is a reboot of Space Battleship Yamato 2...
@@jovanblackman2608 you mean the reboot that was before the 2199 reboot? This is the one I watched ruclips.net/video/w6LFkMniuTk/видео.html
@@tennoshenaniganizer9234 Mabe he is talking about the second season of the remake 2202 thats currently ongoing.
Same story with me but+ World of Warships.
@@mrdunk2955 precisely... I need them to hurry the hell up though. The suspense is killing me
I used to get up at 530am every school day so I could be showered and dressed just to watch this.
Eventually I got a beta-max so I could record all the episodes . . and sleep till630am. Loved this show
great memories
Please do a ship Breakdown for the UNCF Andromeda
The andromeda is basically the result of the question "what if we took the wave motion gun and made a double barreled shotgun version?"
@@killman369547 and Ginga? In Yamato 2202?
@@rafeak5983Basically “what if we made a Yamato but for a support role (Cosmo Reverse System) and have it controlled by an AI and females while having a questionable name for a contingency plan (G-Plan)?”
Well it wasn't a complete breakdown of the armament and defensive specs, but it was nice to see. and well laid out for what it was. The Narrator has a really good voice for it too.
Decent voice, but the constant godsawful (mis)pronunciation of 'Yamato' had me twitching every damn time.
Yamato Hasshin!
Woah apc why u here
what about the andromeda : ) ?
@@memereview793 oh u mean the andromeda in 2202? I think it's pretty awesome(as it has a disperse wave motion gun) but then again we don't know what other weapons it has other than the
(I'm assuming) upgraded 4 triple mount positron shock cannons, which reminds me of the Montana class battleships.
@@sarki4816 yes
@@memereview793 I wish they made the andromeda into something like the upgraded Musashi/Yamato. The ones with the aa guns replaced by more secondary guns. That would've been pretty badass
You maybe the first ever to describe the yamato inside and out, thank you I am a big fan of the space battleship yamato (one of the reasons is the design is base on the ww2 battleship yamato.)
I really loved this! I absolutely love that ship.... from when I was a little kid. I like the Captain Harlock one too. When those guns spin around and shoot... I make noises walking around the house afterwards.... I’m 43.
One of my favourite ships of all time. Just one thing to correct.
The task of the Yamato required it to travel to and back from the Large Magellanic Cloud within one year which has a distance of 158,200 lightyears. This means that Yamato would have to at least travel ~866 lightyears every single day. Assuming that they are making a FTL jump every single hour (including cooldown of the engine after jumping and maintenance to ensure its working fine), that's at least 36 lightyears per jump. Truthfully its probably even faster as they seem to only perform two jumps per day in an episode without combat.
well at Balun they able to short distance thanks to some kind of warp gate. Refer to episode 18
In the original series, they could warp 1000 light years a jump.
If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you do the Andromeda class battleships and dreadnought class battlecruisers?
Better include the carrier variant as well as the Zoellgut class
dont forget the gatlantis empire dreadnaught and ships, along with the gamilas ships
@@laryyan1358 that dreadnought is a beast
Might as well get the gamilon kelapia class
Would love to see the Lexington Class Carrier and the torpedo bombers from the original 70's second season. The new Andromeda Class Carriers are awesome but the Lexington is a classic! www.tacticalstarshipcombat.com/SBFBS/EDF%20Ships/page187-edf-sbcv-lexington.PDF
Yamato: This is my End in WW2
2199 Yamato: I AM BACK BABY!
Whoa! Did someone do a new version of Starblazers and no one told me?
I have been waiting for a video on this ship since I first discovered this channel.
Same.
Ohh next request, ships from the Gundam Franchise??? (below is a list of possible options)
- White Base?
- Argama?
- Ra Cailum?
- Nahel Argama?
- Musashi?
- Rewoola?
- Salamis/Salamis Kai?
- Archangel?
- Minerva?
Many more in the franchise so take your pick lol
Ohhh god, please yesss! and maybe even some MS
I feel like the White Base or the Argama would make the most sense out of this list, but any would be welcome.
How about Zeons Musias
Yes to all of these suggestions in this very comment thread.
Even a space colony would be cool to see.
I grew up watching the OG show then binged on the reboot and absolutely loved it, currently working on painting and putting together a model.
This Ship and the original/refit NCC-1701 are my absolute all-time favorite.
“An unexpected surprise to be sure, but not an unwelcome one”
The quote is actually "a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
Tenno Shenaniganizer Yeah I saw that but it’s okay
hello, fellow prequel memer
Awesome! So beautiful to see the Yamato being analysed properly with research invested. Just beautiful and thank you! :)
The Yamato (Argo) is one of the most formidable battle spaceships in sci-fi history! The positron shock cannons can cut ships to pieces even with heavy shields! It ripped the citadel of The Comet Empire to shreds despite not having their wave motion gun, if they would have had that, bye-bye Comet Empire! As small as this vessel is, it could go up against the toughest ships in sci-fi lore! The wave motion gun is definitely the total equalizer!
Love this show and the updated version is nicely done.
yes i guess there is some nostalgia that makes me luv this ship, but its still so frakken awesome!! great breakdown!
This is perfect. I was needing a breakdown of the yamato as I am doing a pathfinder campaign where my party will find an Iowa class battleship out in a secret dock somewhere in 'space' and will be able to use it as a base of operations for the rest of the game. This will be perfect in helping me set the ship up stat wise and mechanics wise. Thanks Spacedock!
Oh to live in a time where this glorious series has been remade. Series 3 starts in August!
I'd love to see a Gundam mothership; White Base, Ra Cailum, Nahel Argama, Ptolemaios...
I watched the English dub of the 2012 reboot series over this past week and holy hell was it amazing. That ship went through hell and back.
02:08 I remember watch it 1st time I was like "OUCH!"
Have never liked a video faster. I've been wanting this one for _soooo_ damn long.
haven't been so exited for a video in ages
YES YES YES OH MY GOD THIS IS HAPPENING THIS IS HAPPENING
*Heavy weeb breathing*
Breath in that air foo
Space Battleship Yamato is the only Japanese TV show deserve to remove the weeb in its title.
@@Dumb-Comment Legend of the galactic heroes, needs a viewing i think. It makes everything but 40k look small scale.
@@eps200 have you watched the latest Space Battleship Yamato 2022 yet? The massive fleet of earth is also grand. :D
@@Dumb-Comment that time fault tho.
Use Time fault create more time fault generators to generate more time fault to create *Time faultception*
Thank you Space Dock for bringing this legendary Battleship to your channel!
Great video. I remember watching this show as a kid.
Would love to see a break down of the Arcadia from Captin Harlock... Please
Ships of "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" please!!!
@Upcycle Shoes I would say the 2018 Remake because it has much better visuals.
The ships, as far as I've gone thorugh the series, are not really that detailed. Just big chunks of metal, sometimes most of them being square or rectangular (especially the Free Planet Alliance).
But, if there's something worth a spacedock video, that would be the fortress of Iselhorn.
@@nottoday3817 Both 1990 version and remake has their appeals; in the original they leans more on utilitarian look, while the Remake leans more on "functionality and semi-realism'.
This is most obvious in the Remake's Free Planet Alliance ships, the engine placements allows them to omitted almost all maneuvering thrusters from their ships while still able to turn in all direction realistically. Not to mention consolidating critical machinery from generator, engines, and main weapons, into a single block instead of wasting hull volume on running power conduits between systems. This means reduced cost, lower maintenance, and less weak spots on their hull. (less maneuvering thrusters mean less holes in their armor, obviously.)
The carousel-style fighter launch bay is a *really* cool idea for one! I like it!
OMG, thank you for covering this amazing ship.
Well about time
Also her sister ship "ginga" similar to yamato different technology and different look
I think they missed an opportunity there. They should have called the sister ship "Musashi."
@@AJPDing there was a design for the Musashi back at the day for Space Battleship Yamato Resurrection (i think) which was incorporated into the Ginga, (dunno why, perhaps this could be itself a Star Trek refrence where the Galaxy class ("Ginga" means Galaxy in english) and the Ginga can project shields that encompass' a fleet and protect it from shots hence the name is chosen, but thats still speculation) however in the lore of the Yamato 2199 universe, the Yamato class is made of several ships for the up and coming 2205 series, the class is made of the Yamato herself, un anamed ship (probably the Musashi or Izumo from the human evacuation program prior to contact with Iscandar), the Ginga and Blue Noah (refrence to Space Battleship Yamato Resurrection (2009) and the 1990s show Blue Noah and the Space Battleship Blue Noah from the Yamato 2520 show which was cancelled back in the 90s).. who knows it could be the Musashi in that empty spot.
@@caktitaqiwicaksana6018 then we need a Yamato-class carrier called Shinano. Also, it is ironic that the Ginga would be referencing Star Trek since Star Trek has some of the worst ship designs I have seen and Yamato definitely has some of the better ones.
@@AJPDing dont worry, the Yamato-class is being expanded for the 2205 series, of the five Yamato class of battleships, 3 are confirmed to have been named, Yamato herself, Ginga and Blue Noah, while the other two might be Musashi and Shinano. Come to think of it, ain't Yamato already a carrier in her own right? (To be fair for Trek, their ships are designed by functionality first over aesthetics - even Gene Roddenberry wrote down all the details for the producers in Paramount to work with and have written down rules for Star Trek ships anything from why Nacelles are placed in such to each medium to large (anything from plating to entire modules and hardpoints) external detail must have a clear function, only the late 1990s movies (TNG movies) and series (DS9 and Voyager) where they transitioned into more streamline ships both i guess with an aesthetic reasoning and a lore reasoning)
12 light years in a single warp? The crew was averaging over 1000 light years per day in the first series to make the 148,000 LY round-trip to Iscandar in the Lesser Magellanic Cloud. I think they were up to 2000 LY / day by the time of the final movie.
wait really 1000 light years per day? That impressive as UNSC Infinity in Halo can cover up to 1500 light years per day.
Oh man you had no idea how long i jave been waiting for this.
This was impressively in-depth. Great job
YEEESSSS, it's here boys!
The Yamato Wins 2000-0
Vs. Great Garmillas Empire 20-0
Vs. Comet Empire 30-0
Vs. Neu Desura 15-0
Vs. Desura 2 And Desura 20-0
Yamato
Type:Battleship
Faction:United Nations Cosmo Navy-Earth Federation
Energy:Wave-Motion Engine
WMD:Wave Motion Gun
Heavy Antielectron Positron Shock Cannon Turrets
The Wave Motion Gun is not a WMD. The Wave Motion Gun is the Wave Motion Gun, it's its own trope namer!
Thankyou for this video. Love the Yamato !!!
Yes yes yes thank you so much please do more from the show please. This is why I joined you do everything
The music sounds right out of Supreme Commander and sends shivers down my spine. I also love Space Battle Ship Yamato as a series.
The music is actually from Battlezone 2. Actually a bit of the songs Spacedock uses are from that game. I suggest looking it up and give it a listen.
@@mill2712 can you tell me what that particular music track is? I've searched for Battlezone 2 OST, but i can't find anything sounding even remotely close to that.. And i agree with Sandor, part of the track sounds exactly like Supreme Commander theme.
@@EliasKaydanius
If it's not in the playlist then either it's a song in game not uploaded or it's in some other media.
I don't know what to tell you in either case.
I also thought it was Supreme Commander music
If you disliked this video, you deserve to be thrown out an airlock. I mean, seriously, why are you here? This is an iconic ship!
The Roci is better.
@@WolfeSaber9933 Which one?
@@Peter22055 The Rocinante from the Expanse
@@WolfeSaber9933 I see, but how is light frigate suppose to be better than space battleship?
@@Peter22055 Well, the crew did knock a battleship after covering their approach with nukes. And it was before they got a railgun. Plus, railgun could turn the thick armor of a vessel into its own weapon against the crew, creating spall.
This was my favorite show growing up. Good memories