Review: Eureka Mignon Espresso Grinders - Full Line
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Review and compare features of the full line of Eureka Mignon espresso grinders including Facile, Silenzio, Perfetto, Specialita, Magnifico and Design. From the best value Facile to the all purpose Perfetto up to the Mignon Design with custom stone and wood cases by Italian artists there's a Mignon grinder to fit your budget and style. All These Mignon grinders are very quiet and feature Eureka's ACE system for clump free grinding at espresso sizes.
Related videos:
Review Eureka Mignon Brew Grinders: Filtro, Crono & Brew Pro: • Review: Eureka Mignon ...
Top 5 Best Espresso Grinder Under $500 (includes Mignon Silenzio): • Top 5 Best Espresso Gr...
How To Dial In Grind Size for Espresso: • Review: Eureka Mignon ...
Products:
Eureka Grinders: www.wholelattelove.com/collec...
WHOLE LATTE LOVE
Get expert advice on products to best fit your needs. Call the coffee experts at Whole Latte Love:
585-924-7170
Talk to our experts via chat or email: www.wholelattelove.com/contac...
Whole Latte Love on Social Media
---------------------------------------------------------
► Follow Whole Latte Love on Instagram: / wholelattelove
► Follow Whole Latte Love on Twitter: / wholelattelove
► Like Whole Latte Love on Facebook: / wholelatteloveonline 
Хобби
![mgk - I Think I’m OKAY (with YUNGBLUD) (Sad Version) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7AC1uqQLIg4/mqdefault.jpg)
Mignon Fàcile: Mignon easy to use.
Mignon Silenzio: Silent Mignon, to not disturb people around you (even though all of the Eureka mignon are quiet)
Mignon Perfetto: Perfect Mignon (I think it is called like that 'cause of the fact that it can be great for all types of coffee, not specific for a single type of coffee brewing method.
Mignon specialità: specialty mignon. Amazing for specialty coffee due to the very focus espresso range grinder.
Mignon magnifico: magnificent mignon. Top of the line.
Hi LM, Thanks for adding that - spot on!
Marc
I recently bought a Silenzio and it is superb, well built and quiet.
Hi John, Thanks a bunch for sharing your opinion and experience with the Silenzio! It's appreciated and I'm sure it will help someone else make their grinder decision!
Marc
Thanks Marc! this helped me pick an new Espresso Grinder. Was using the Ascaso i-steel and now will move to the Eureka Mignon Specialita
Hey GG, You are welcome! Enjoy your new grinder!!!
Marc
This is the video I didn’t know I neededp
Hi Jay, Thanks for the copmment!
Marc
Thank you for the review! 😊
My pleasure!
As always Mark great video ( compliment to AJ as well ). We purchased the facile grinder and it seems to be holding its own . Currently using it for a corse setting for poor over coffee . The facile appears to produce a consistent grind. We are patiently waiting to purchase the quick mill pippa espresso machine once back in stock at Whole Latte Love . Thanks all the help and guidance during the buying experience in home espresso. Cheers
Hi Austin, Thanks for your patience and patronage. I usually get to the comments a little faster! And thank you for taking a moment to share your thoughts on the Facile!
Marc
Finally, a lineup of eureka grinders! i will go for the specialita. Very good video, thanks :)
Hi t, There ya go! You're welcome.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage you always reply to comments - thats great! Regards from germany :)
Marc, new customer from Buffalo here, just discovered your business and videos. Have ordered the Magnifico and Gaggio Classic Pro, both in red, as my "starter" kit. Many thanks for all your efforts in eduacation!
Hi Phred, Thanks for discovering us and your patronage! Hopefully we were not hard to find. We're right down I90 in Rochester! I have many videos one the Gaggia Classic Pro so be sure and subscribe and search the channel for more. Many are available in our support wiki for the GCP as well so bookmark this: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia_Classic_Pro
Enjoy your new machine and grinder - a nice pair your have!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks, Marc. The package came quickly and in perfect condition. Fantastic looking pair!! My kids are so excited that they're going to set it up for the family. Looking forward to doing more business with you!
Hey Marc! 👋 First of all, amazing videos!! Really great presentation of the Eureka Mignon Line! I believe I'm interested somewhere between Silenzio to Perfetto or even Specialita (this will be my very first grinder). I'm mostly into espresso, but occassionaly pour-over/drip/aeropress coffee. I'm wondering, does Silenzio offer the same grind consistency as Perfetto? Since they are 55mm grinders should I expect same results from both of them?
Marc, I purchased a specialita from you paired with a Profitec Pro 500 PID in October of 2020. I quickly fell in love with it but the grinder has had more issues than I can count. Near impossible to dial in due to the smallest adjustment wheel with poor marking scale, having to waste tons of beans while making finer adjustments, having the machine stop dead on me while going finer, grind size drift, inconsistent grinds with clumping, tons of retention (using dry medium roast), and seeing grind size adjustments many shots later even after purging many grams of beans. I disassembled it, cleaned and vacuumed it, and still no luck. I switched beans multiple times and even gave the same beans to a friend with a Breville Oracle and he had no issues. I actually went out and gave you a second chance and purchased a Ceado E37s from you and my espresso making has been enjoyable ever since. I reached out to tech support after complaining about having a $700+ paperweight after sales at WLL recommended it. I was hoping you could do something for me in regards to my specialita. They told me it's out of return period and if tech determines nothing wrong with it they will charge me labor to verify that. I spent over $4000 with you guys now, and really am in a pickle taking a bath on what WLL said was a great grinder for the money (specialita). I don't know if I got a lemon or if this grinder really isn't all that good. I would much rather not have an espresso based $700+ grinder for cold brew which we barely drink. Any thoughts? Looking forward to hearing from you!
Sounds like you got a lemon, isn't there a 1yr warranty at least? Maybe try a 3rd party repair place and see if they can get it working better, and resell it, or just sell it cheaper and be honest about the issues you had.
The markings / adjustment is kinda irrelevant, just move it one way or the other for finer or coarser, it's not very convenient if you're trying to remember what settings worked for what coffee or brew type. One of the downsides of the grinder (along with the poorly designed hopper). The hardest part is figuring out how much of an adjustment you're making with any new grinder. I think it actually works better as a single dose grinder. Less waste, easier to adjust without any beans in it, and a 3d printed or PVC pipe funnel is less messy than using the standard hopper it comes with.
Just bought a Synchronika from you guys, so excited! I hope y’all do a “maintenance/cleaning regimen” video for E61 machines soon
Hi Mickey, Congrats on your Synchronika - it's an excellent machine. Feeding it good water goes a long way as preventative maintenance. We do have these videos...
Backflushing: ruclips.net/video/k1Vkfj83uyg/видео.html
How To Clean E61 Brew Group Mushroom, Jet and Top Valve: ruclips.net/video/4H57QSEMDhs/видео.html
That and more here in our support wiki for the ECM Synchronika: wiki.wholelattelove.com/ECM_Synchronika/cleaning_and_maintenan
Marc
I have the Silenzio in chrome. Not only is it beautiful, it replaced a Breville grinder and is so quiet in the mornings. I can't believe how solid and heavy they are as well.
I guess it is the best for home espresso
Was looking at other reviews on this grinder. Knew my boy Mark would have the best one!
Hey Neil, Thanks for the comment - If it's an espresso product available in the US chances are I have a video!
Marc
I have the specialita (chrome not gold haha). Great grinder. I love how quiet it is. I can make myself a coffee in the morning without waking the family.
The only negative is that it can be a little bit messy as there is no catch tray. They way I get around that is that I will stop 3/4 of the way through a grind, give a quick tap to flatten the mound, then finish the grind. They great thing is that it will allow you to pause without losing your time.
Hi Mark, Thanks for sharing your opinions on the Specialita!
Marc
I use the black plastic funnel that came with my Aeropress to catch the grind in my portafilter. It works really good!
There are dosing funnels specifically for that, I recommend looking into one, I got one that looks like the 'Decent' brand one but from an online retailer much cheaper, just make sure it doesn't sit INSIDE the coffee bed, but rests along the edge of the basket.
Informative as always. I have the Eureka Atom which has been excellent. Only negative is the flimsy portafilter holder
that also doesn’t work with my bottomless filter. It looks like they don’t make this anymore, not sure where it slots in with this lineup.
Great video like all others you make. Btw just got my first grinder (Facile) after using pressurized for 9 years.. still trying to find best settings. Cant wait to upgrade my Breville to Gaggia Classic Pro in few days.
Hey Tomica, Thanks for sharing. The Facile is a real value and you'll be making better espresso soon in non-pressurized filter baskets with the GCP!
Marc
I have my Silenzio in a chrome finish to match my Bezzera. I made a single dosing funnel with 1inch pvc and get really good results dosing with that!
Hi GB, Thanks for taking a moment to share!
Marc
Specialita over here but I too made that single dosing tube with that perfectly fitting powder duster bellows. So good. Very grateful to the dude who made the video of that mod.
That Dubai gold mannnnn is 🔥😍
Great review thanks. Can the perfetto easily switch from espresso to courser and back. Will it find the dialled in espresso grind again exactly? Or do you need to dial in again with the machine? Thanks.
Hi John, Thanks for the kind comment and question. It can switch back fairly easily. Total grind range is contained in one 360 degree turn of the grind adjustment. There are markings on the adjustment wheel to assist. Exactly is relative but you'd get very very close.
Marc
I was leaning towards the Gaggia Brera "bean to cup" unit but decided to replace my old Krups burr grinder with a Eureka Facile and see if my Delonghi EC680 (now used as non-pressurized) can show me some love. My neighbor has the Gaggia Classic Pro with a Silenzio (they're so nice and quiet) and says he doesn't use the timer all that much. So when I saw this "timer-less" version of the "Silenzio" I had to pull the trigger.
I placed the order through you guys early Sunday morning. Now for the waiting part. :-)
Hi P, Thanks for the comment and your patronage. The Facile is an excellent value if timing functions are not important to you. Major upgrade from the Krups!
Marc
great video!!! excuse me, do you think that there is so much difference between perfetto and specialita (talking about espresso quality grind using a semi automatic machine)? thanks
Hi m, Thanks for the comment and question. For strictly espresso I'd go with the Specialita for sure! It has larger 55mm burrs compared to 50mm burrs in the Perfetto. The Perfetto is aimed more at multi-purpose grinding. It's a good choice for those who bounce between espresso and other brew methods with the entire grind size range adjustable with a single 360 degree turn of the grind size adjustment knob. The Specialita is more focused on espresso grinding. The grind size adjustment is more precise - it takes many full turns of the adjustment knob to get out of the espresso range. Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Marc, great review! I love a good espresso and will certainly take some time to experiment to come up with the perfect shot, but I am not going to be obsessive about it, so I would consider myself a sort of middle of the road enthusiast. With the Perfetto, how important is the loss of grind range for someone like me? It would be great to have an all purpose grinder but I don't want to make a huge trade off in grind quality for espresso. Thanks! Amory
Hi AF, Thanks for the kind comment and question. If not obsessive the Perfetto is a great choice for those grinding for multiple brew methods. It put's the full range of brew method grind size adjustment in one turn of the knob. You give up precision in fine tuning in the espresso range - the proper grind size is available, just much smaller turns of the dial produce a larger change in grind size. Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Marc! Thank you for this great video.
I would like to ask you which grinder size do you like the most for your espresso using Eureka Specialita ?
Hi co, Thanks for the question. Assume you mean what grind setting for espresso? If so, I cannot answer the question as your grind size needs to fit your brewing variables. Here's a video detailing the simple dialing in process that will help you set your grind size properly: ruclips.net/video/unHHToGjshI/видео.html
Marc
Very useful video, thanks for the great comparison. I drink espresso and Moka pot daily and whilst the Perfetto is easier to switch between grinds, it's difficult to find in the UK. I realise the grind for Moka is courser than espresso, so if I was to chose the Specialita, are you looking at a lot of turns to the dial in order to move between these two brewing methods? Looking at buying my first grinder so appreciate your advice.
Hi Jon, Thanks for the comment and question. I don't do moka very often but the grind when I have isn't that far off from espresso. Depends on what you like for the grind but shouldn't be many turns.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for your reply Marc.
I have the specialita - works perfect each time. Touch screen easy to use. Stepless adjustment easy to use. I cannot imagine needing any other grinder honestly. Very quite grind noise.
same for me John Arnold.
Hi John, Thanks for sharing your impressions of the the Specialita!
Marc
Hi Leonida, Thanks for the 2nd opinion!
Marc
same here! Best grinder! I would only replace it with a CEADO 👍
Thanks for the input, John. Do you do other coffees (French press maybe) with it? Also, read reports about how messy it is. Appreciate any thoughts. Thx.
Hiya Marc, I love the look of these grinders, but at the moment I don’t grind for espresso - I usually make mokapot - will they all grind for that size too? PS I can’t get the Perfetto in the UK
Hey Wendi! Yes these will all grind for mokapot.
Marc
I'm leaning towards the Silenzio. I currently use a Baratza Sette 270 and it is LOUD.
Appreciate videos like this showing & comparing the whole line!
Hey Andrey, Yes, the 270 is loud! You're welcome for the video!
Marc
Hey Mark, love your videos. I purchased a Profitec Pro 600 and a Eureka Mignon Magnifico from WLL. I am very happy. Doing business with your company has been an outstanding experience.
I have a question on grinder maintenance. There is nothing mentioned in the manual. Does my grinder need periodic cleaning and maintenance? I do see videos on RUclips regarding this but if the manual doesn’t mention it, do I really need to be taking my grinder apart? Thank you.
Hi David, Thanks for the kind comment! If you use the grinder on a regular basis you don't have to take it apart. That said, over time some coffee gunk will accumulate in the grinding chamber. More likely when grinding oily beans. Some users do to take their grinders apart for cleaning as the oily trapped gunk can go rancid. There's no published schedule for frequency but I recommend 1x month for typical home user. Or maybe clean if you know you will not be using the grinder for more than a week or two - vacation etc. Nice thing about Magnifico and other Eureka Mignon grinders is they are very easy to take apart and no loss of grind setting when doing so. The screw to get the top plate off is behind the press on logo plate on the rear side. Pry that off and remove screw underneath. Then the top plate will come off giving access to screws that hold the top burr plate on. Remove those, lift off the plate and use a pick and vacuum to clean out any gunk. Reassemble and you are done.
Hope that helps and thanks for your patronage!
Marc
Recently purchased a Facile in Canada. The quality of the grind and taste in the cup were superb (compared to my dual purpose Vario). I was extremely pleased with my grinder. Within the first week (+/- 25 x 18g), I started to notice clumps and a day or two later, the grinds stopped coming out of the chute altogether while the motor was still running. I tried to remove the burrs to clean the chamber and ended up stripping a screw from being too tight. I used a spoon to reach inside the chute from underneath and the amount of grind that came out was significant. But still wouldn’t work once cleaned out. This wasn’t expected after only one week of use. I was lucky that I could get a full refund. It’s unfortunate because I’ll loved the machine. Maybe I’ll try the Specialita one day.
Hi Marco, Thanks for the feedback and sharing your experience with the Facile. Sorry to hear of your problems. Sounds like the grinder got clogged up and may have had issues with continuing to grind while clogged which caused the problem. Always best to stop the motor ASAP if no grinds are being dispensed. The initial clumping is indication of a partial clog potentially from grind being set too fine and/or very oily beans. You did the right thing trying to clean the grinder! Stripping screws (assuming it was the screw head that stripped) is often the result of using a screwdriver that's not the right size for the head. Good that you were able to get a full refund and loved the grinder enough to consider going with a Specialita down the road.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage assuming the chute would need to be cleaned regularly. Would you recommend the Specialita or something like the Profitec Pro M54 with an easy clip chute cover instead of the screws of the Mignon? Are they both similar in grind quality??
Hi, If me I'd go with the Specialita. If you are getting clogs the Pro M54 is IMO more difficult to open up for cleaning. Removing the chute cover usually does not give enough access for clearing clogs/cleaning. Usually have to remove the top burr assembly. You will lose grind setting when opening, have to turn out the adjustment collar, do your cleaning and make sure collar threads are spotless before turning back in. On the Specialita, pop the Eureka emblem off the back to access and loosen the top cover retaining screw. Pop off the top cover and 3 screws holding the top burr plate and you're in with no loss of grind setting. Just be sure and use the proper sized screwdriver to avoid damaging the screw heads. Grind quality is similar between the grinders. Slight edge to the Specialita IMO for stepless grind size adjustment, lower retention and 2 timed grinding presets.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks so much. Just love your channel content and how you connect with people with your quick replies. Just unfortunate that I live north of the border. Otherwise you would have a definite customer. Keep up the good work WLL ❤️
@@marcochiasson2298 thanks for the comment. Doesn’t matter where you live or purchase. Hopefully my comments help others as well!
Marc
I have the specialita in chrome. But my version as the perfetto grind adjustment knob. So the 55mm burr with the Perfetto adjustment wheel. I bought in quebec canada, i think only available there.
Hi CO, Thanks for sharing. Just curious is your adjustment knob limited to 360 degrees of travel?
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage hi, yes. You can look on my RUclips Chanel I have video of the grinder and you can see the knob. I have not found any information on the web on this model. But I made verification with the shop I bought it to be sure it ad the 55mm burr.
ROCK AND ROLL MARC!
Hi B, Everyday!
Marc
Are you planning on making a video of the new eureka oro single dose?
I have an ECM Technica V POD, am interested in a new grinder and am considering the Specialita vs the Barratza Sette WI, would love to know your thoughts.
Hi neil, Thanks for the question. First, understand the Sette is an appliance grade product and the Specialita is machine grade. If you will be weighing shots the Sette is magical in delivering incredibly accurate weights right into your PF with no scale required. It's difficult to give objective judgement on grind quality with 55mm flat burrs and 40mm conical burr in the Sette. Subjectively, flat burrs are generally preferred for high-end espresso grinding. Beyond mostly plastic construction the Sette has some wear parts. After break-in you will need to install the provided shim(s) to restore the fine grinding range. After some use you will need to replace the felt friction ring between the macro and micro adjustment rings. Both of those things are very easy to do and the felt ring is a $1 part. The Sette is rather loud with its grind straight through design, it's susceptible to static especially in low humidity environments and during break in. It produces a very fluffy and well distributed grind. The Specialita is much, much quieter, has no wear parts and is fairly consistent with dose weights cycle to cycle based on timed grinding. I hope that helps!
Marc
Thanks for the review. Are you familiar with the manuale? I’m mainly making espressos
Hey LV, You are welcome! Yes I am familiar with the Manuale. We had it for a bit but decided to take the Eureka Migonon Facile instead: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-facile-espresso-grinder
Very similar to the Manuale but much quieter. Both are no frills espresso oriented grinders.
Marc
Thanks for the video.
I own the Specialita for about 8 months now. I started noticing problems with it when I opened it to clean it. First I thought it was the misalignment and I fixed it but even now, I can only get my 20-25 second extraction when the burrs are touching each other. No one talked about this on RUclips and I don't know if that's normal or not. Where do you get your sweet spot?
The local dealer won't look at it as long as it's still grinding and running. So that's useless.
Great content as usual :) What about the mignon XL ? Have you already tested it ?
Hey mf14, Thanks for the comment. We hope to have the Mignon XL soon so stay tuned!
Marc
Gosh!..So many model's to choose..love the Dubai gold specialita.! Im having a Eureka moment on which is the best?.. Very detailed presentation again Marc..☕☕😃
Hi J, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Choice paralysis. I bet Eureka will add a new variant on the mignon line next year
Great overview of the Eureka Mignon range, Marc. Just wondering how you find the Mignon specialita to the Eureka Atom. There isn't a huge price difference to them and I am wondering what the differences are between them and if it's worth spending the bit extra for the Atom?
There's different Atom variants, If the price difference isn't that big I'd go with the Atom 75! But that's probably a big jump in price.
@@BensCoffeeRants I agree
Hey Marc, do you know that on more expensive models Eureka has a special lid with a bellows like rubber extended belt that act as a blower to clean/empty almost totally the hopper and burrs as pushes the air into the hole machine? Also I would ask if you recommend me the Specialità for an occasionally French Press or Cold Brew grinding, since the Perfetto doesn't have so many settings for the espresso that it wold be it's main purpose. I'm choosing a better and easier grinder for my GAGGIA BABY 1997 White edition machine, it came originally with the MDF white color, but the doser is really retaining so much coffee and the stepped selector is not exactly microadjustable for very fine tuned espresso.
Thanks a lot, and as always great job explaining all this wonderful line of Eurekas!
Hi AO, Nice to hear you have a Gaggia Baby from 1997 that's still running! MDF was a good grinding option years ago. A solid unit at good price but dosing grinders have fallen out of favor with home espresso enthusiasts and the MDF is a stepped grinder so precise grind adjustment is lacking. I am aware and have used the Atom Pro with bellows. IMO it's best used for brew methods other than espresso like pour over in a commercial setting: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/all-grinders/products/eureka-atom-pro-coffee-grinder-in-matte-black
If you are doing both espresso and press plus cold brew I'd go with the Perfetto. It can be adjusted rapidly between espresso and coarser settings for other brew methods. The Specialita will require a lot of turning of the grind size adjustment knob to go from espresso fine to coarser settings and it's available in white: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-perfetto-16cr-grinder-in-white
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hey Mark,
Firstly, I love your videos!! I have a question for you. I’m considering to buy Mignon Perfetto for my Gaggia Classic Pro but I wonder that, is Perfetto a good match for Gaggia Classic Pro or should I consider Mignon Specialita?
Wish you a healthy day.
Hi, Thanks for the kind comment and question! If you grind for other brew methods from time to time then the Perfetto can work. Much easier with the Perfetto to make major changes in grind sizes. But, you do give up a bit of precision controlling grind size as the whole range is contained in one 360 degree turn of the control. If only grinding for espresso then the Specialita has more precise control with many full turns of grind size control knob required for big changes in grind size. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I use a Perfetto mainly for espresso (Expobar Lever) and it works quite alright. You're right that you have to make tiny adjustments but it has never bothered me.
@@Wholelattelovepage does specialita have a courser setting for cold brew?
Hi Marc. I have a Specialita. You mention and I think the book does as well that it's important to have the grinder running when making adjustments to grind finer (not required if going courser?). Assume that is to minimize stress on the motor if there are beans between the burrs. Can you adjust to finer with no beans in the hopper/burrs and if yes, should it be running or not? Want to be sure I don't harm the grinder but don't want to unnecessarily sacrifice beans. Bonus question: is the advantage of 54mm vs. 50mm burrs increased/faster throughput? Thanks!
Hi Brian, Thanks for the questions - and I'll go for the bonus!!! Yes, it is important to have the grinder running when adjusting finer and there are beans in the hopper. No problem adjusting coarser with beans in and grinder not running. Also very small adjustments finer are okay with beans in. I do it all the time in between shots when dialing in. Like I have a shot running 20 seconds and I adjust a hair finer to add 5 seconds or so to timing for the next. You will not see a manufacturer recommending that as there is risk - mostly from users who will read incorrectly and think it's okay to make major changes to a finer setting. That can cause a grinder to lockup with partially ground beans trapped between the burrs. With no beans in hopper you can make any adjustment without the grinder running.
Bonus: General advantages of larger burrs - Faster grinding, more consistent particle size, more heat absorption/cooler grinding, less tendency for grinds to clump at espresso sizes, longer burr life.
Marc
Hi Mark.
Many thanks for your video. You did a fantastic job there. I am sorry I can't buy a Eureka grinder from you guys as I live in the UK. I am very interested on the Eureka grinders as I don't like the fact the Baratza Sette series have issues with its internal plastic parts (getting broken) so you video came just in time to decide myself for one of the Eureka grinders. Kind regards
Hi LBC, Thanks for the kind comment. The Sette grinders are nice IMO but are appliance grade compared to a much better build quality in the Mignon grinders. Also, we really need to get to the UK!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage These seem to be quite a bit harder to clean and maintain, though. Might there be a follow-up video about the maintenance and cleaning of these grinders?
I have a Perfetto and use it mainly for espresso. Sometimes I use if for other brewing methods (French press) which is the reason why I went for the Perfetto. But in reality it is a bit of a pain to switch between grind settings (at least from coarse to fine) because you do have to take into account that the lingering coarser grinds will be dragged down along with the fine grinds for a few shots, and they will be interfering with your espresso extraction.
Hi RV, Thanks for the feedback sharing your experience. You made the right choice with the Perfetto. Micrometric adjustement of the other models makes switching between espresso and other brew methods a tedious process. Takes a lot of turns to make major grind size changes. When changing grind size one does have to burn a little coffee. In my experience the Mignon line retains less partially ground coffee than most competing grinders with similar size burrs.
Marc
I also ordered a Perfetto from them this month. But the dial on my coarse setting doesn't have green, yellow, or orange like their website has it; my dial is just a continuous color spectrum from orange to red and the settings are from 1-13. What color is your coarse setting dial? Did I get a super old bottom-of-the-inventory machine?
@@heavybreathing6696 You're more likely to have a newer model than an older one. I wouldn't be surprised if Eureka got rid of labelling the settings (like "French press" or "Espresso") because in reality my espresso grinds are in the "Turkish" setting most of the time and French press can be done in "Drip" or whatever.
Hey Marc! Hope you're having a good day.
I am stuck between choosing Eureka Specialita and Breville Grinder Pro. I'm more into espressos but love to Cold Brew sometimes too.
What's your take on it?
Hi SSR, Thanks for the question. I'd definitely go with the Eureka Mignon Specialita over the Breville. The Specialita is machine grade construction while the Breville is an appliance with lots of plastic. The Eureka is a far better grinder!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc! What's your take when the comparison is between Specialita vs 270Wi
Thanks for the video Mark. I'm looking for a new espresso grinder and I can't decide between the eureka mignon specialita and the baratza sette 270wi. I love the look of the specialita but love the fact you can grind by weight on the 270wi. Which would you pick. Thanks
I am not professional like Marc but I prefer Specialita. It is a cute beast.
@@sriwahyanibudianingsih1534 thanks so much
Hi James, Thanks for the question. Grinding by weight is awesome and Sette does it very well! Trade off is the Sette grinders are appliance grade in construction with lots of plastic and some wear parts. Sette with it's high speed grinding and grind straight through design is more susceptible to static - especially in low humidity environments. The Specialita is a machine grade flat burr grinder. Also, it's a lot quieter than the Sette!
Hope that helps!
Marc
Thanks so much for your reply. Specialita it is I'd say
Thanks to you I bought my specialita but I’m having some struggles finding the true zero in order to be sure which setting I want. Do you have any advice about it ?
Hi AV, Finding zero is easy. With no beans in the grinder continue adjusting to a finer setting until you hear the sound of the burrs just touching then quickly back off until that sound goes away. That's zero or the finest possible grind setting. Don't worry about the burrs briefly touching. The non cutting outer edge of the burrs are higher than the cutting edges so they do not touch.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage perfect! Thank you so much !
I have specialita and love it as an espresso grinder. Two frustrations though; no auto power off and the portafilter holder is really tacky and second rate - almost seems to be an after thought. As can be seen in the video the portafilter wants to spin around.
Hi AS, Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi A Smith, we just got the Magnifico and I have found that if the filter holder is not level, the portafilter will spin, but if I make sure it is level it doen't seem to.
Which one would I buy if want doserless, espresso only use, simple to dial in grind
Hi Linda, Thanks for the question. All the Mignon grinders are doserless. If you do not need timed grinding the lowest price option in the Mignon line is the Instantaneo which is not shown in this video. It has the same 50mm burrs as the Perfetto and Silenzio but does not have the "silent" tech which all the other do so it's louder when grinding. Next step up is the Silenzio 50mm, does have "silent" tech, it grinds manually on demand or has simple timing (not digital). If you do not need digital timing either of those is a good choice. The other 50mm Mignon is the Perfetto. It's a bit more all purpose with one 360 degree turn going through entire grind size range. If doing just espresso it's probably not the best choice as grind adjustment is not as precise. If going 50mm burr and don't need precise timing IMO the Silenzio is the way to go and comes in a range of colors: www.wholelattelove.com/search?q=silenzio
From there you go to the Mignons with 55mm burrs. They grind a bit faster and most will tell you bigger burrs = better grind. All of the 55mm have digital timed grinding. Entry to 55mm is the Specialita also available in a range of colors: www.wholelattelove.com/search?q=specialita
Hope that helps!
Marc
How come the perfetto dial color is different from other videos on RUclips? This one is a continuous orange to red but other videos have different colors like green and yellow?
Hi HB, Thanks for the question. Think it's a purely aesthetic design change with no functional implications.
Marc
Can you show how to make a latte after you grind the coffee. Thanks!
Hi Aleda, Here's a video that shows you that and a whole latte more: ruclips.net/video/0vD--H7poxU/видео.html
Looking for a good first grinder, hoping for something that can do espresso to French press grinding and is under $1000. The Mignon Magnifico looks to be the right one. but open to other brands. any recommendations?
Hi Chris, It's always a compromise if you try and use a single grinder for both espresso and other brew methods which use a much coarser grind size. Espresso grinders tend to produce more fines at coarser grind settings. And brew grinders don't have the precision or grind quality for espresso. Beyond that changing back and forth between different grind sizes is a bit of a pain. It can be difficult to easily return to your dialed in espresso grind setting. But, depends on how particular you are and how willing you are to give up some ease of use. If your budget is $1000 you might consider a lower cost Baratza for your press grinding like the Virtuoso and go with one of the Eurekas for your espresso grinding.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc, I hadn't considered getting two separate grinders but that makes total sense. I appreciate the reply!
Features and convenience aside: from a pure results in the cup point of view - is there any significant difference between the Facile and the other models?
Hi BASS, The Facile uses 50mm grinding burrs. Within Eureka's Mignon line are models like this one with larger 65mm burrs: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/espresso-grinders/products/eureka-mignon-turbo-espresso-grinder-chrome
Larger burrs generally produce a more consistent coffee particle size and transfer less heat to ground coffee. Difference in the cup is subjective. Flavor perception depends on sophistication and experience of the taster.
Hi Marc, I just got my Specialita and i must say it is an awesome piece of equipment and I love it to the max!!! However to my amaze I wasn't able to get the so call zero retention. On my very first grinding i obtained mere 14~15g of grinds out from the 18g I dosed in. Much of it actually got hold up inside the outlet chute and passage way. Some of my friend using the specialita also facing similar problem especially whenever they do a full clean out on the grinder. Do you have any idea why does the zero retention does not seen it should suppose to be. Thanks you.
Hi MTY, Happy to hear you are loving the Mignon Specialita to the max! Not sure where you got the idea it's a zero retention grinder. It's not. Maybe you're confusing dose to dose consistency of timed grinding? It does well in that regard.
Marc
Hi Marc, maybe you are right that Specialita don't perform zero retention. After watching through your video here i am much more convinced it isn't a zero retention device. It would be consistent only after several grindings. I am quite worry about the grinds that caught up inside the grinders might cause and effect on the shot we pull.
@@mrthomasyip Try doing two of the same espresso shots in a row (make sure machine temp and your prep is identical if possible), after the grinder has been sitting and not used for a day, and see if the 1st shot runs faster or is worse tasting than the 2nd. If grind retention IS an issue you should be able to tell if the first is worse, if not it's not really affecting anything enough for it to be noticeable. I'm curious what your results would be if you can test that out.
I've found with a bellows / pump, you can pump out 1-2g of retained grounds, but I don't think most of that is actually exchanged it's just stuck in the crevices.
Dark /Oily beans are more sticky and have more retention, I mainly use light /medium roasts.
Mainly drinking espresso but looking to switch to Moka pot/Chemex during weekends. Would the Specialita be a good pick?
U mean the delomgi la specialists? Because that machine is quite bad quality choose the breville barista express instead it's even cheaper but better
@@gaminggamest5837 thanks for the reply. I meant the Eureka Mignon Specialita
So do I have to weight the portafilter after I grind? How to use the time feature properly?
Hi John, Thanks for the question. If doing precise dosing then weight is the way to go. But once you are dialed in to a grind size the grinders do a very good job of dispensing the same amount of coffee by time each time you grind. If you change grind size you should weigh again. Hope that helps!
Marc
How do these compare with a Mazzer grinder? I previously had the Mazzer Mini but had to leave it behind along with my Expobar Brewtus IV when I moved county. I'm looking at getting the Expobar Crem One with the profiler, and the shop selling them have a good deal that includes the Perfetto, but I'm concerned that I might not be satisfied with that grinder. The Mazzer Mini was real good and even survived a nail without a scratch, but of course the doser was an issue as it was just a personal machine.
Hi ER, Thanks for the question. The Mazzer Mini is more ruggedly built than the Mignon grinders and features larger burrs. Have to be honest I've always preferred the Ceado E5P, E6P to the Mazzer when looking at 64mm grinders. I never liked how open the grind size adjustment threads are in the Mazzer and how the top burr rides on 3 springs. With use I found the grind size adjustment would become difficult and opening and cleaning was a pain with those spring carrier holes filling with ground coffee. The Ceados have better sealing of the threads. The Eureka grinders are well made and I consider them machine grade. Their grind size adjustment moves the bottom burr up so size adjutment remains smooth. Though well built, their not at the same level of the Ceado and Mazzer.
Marc
Hey Mark in Europe I see Eureka selling Mignon XL which has 65mm burrs with a 320W motors. are you planning on getting those anytime in the future?
Hi KZ, We do expect to have the Mignon XL sometime soon - not sure of exact date at this time.
Marc
I recently purchased the Specialita and have been struggling with it jamming. Both the burrs and the chute. I use freshly roasted mid- dark beans and they're not oily so I'm a bit baffled. Is there a chance it's defective?
Hi May, There's always a chance but I suspect it's not the case. I've used the Specialita and other Eureka grinders of similar design extensively and have yet to have a clogging issue. A common cause of grinder clogs is grinding far too fine. Grounds get partially packed into spots in the delivery chute impeding the flow of subsequent grind cycles. Sometimes this will clear by adjusting to a much coarser grind setting and running a couple of grind cycles. But there may be a partial clog remaining. In that case, it's best to open up the grinding chamber and manually clear the path out of the grinder. When you attempt to grind again, start at a coarser setting and work your way to a finer one. If you are still having issues and purchased the grinder from us you can contact our tech support staff here for further assistance: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/contact-us
Hope that helps!
Marc
Facile: Do I have to hold in the portafilter the whole time for grinding or can I push it in again to stop. Seems clear that you’re pushing in the whole time but double checking .
Hey Tracy, yes, you push and hold in on the portafilter to grind - release and it stops.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks!
Hi mark thanks for this video. I am just now getting into coffee and currently drink pour overs but I use preground beans, which one do you suggest? I also am looking into getting an espresso machine as well but not sure where to start because I have heard a lot of good things about the brevielle but not sure if I should start there or somewhere else. Thanks!
Hi Noah, You are welcome for the video and thanks for your question. Grinding fresh will most definitely upgrade your pour over quality! Grind size for pour over is not nearly as critical as it is for espresso. Tiny changes in grind size make a big difference in espresso. It's always a bit of a compromise selecting a grinder to serve both immersion brewing methods like pour over and espresso. If switching brew methods a lot the challenge is getting exactly back to your espresso grind size setting. And keep in mind grind size for espresso is not set and forget so you'll likely be making slight size changes as other variables change. Of the grinders here, the best for multi-purpose is the Mignon Perfetto: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/all-grinders/products/eureka-mignon-perfetto-16cr-grinder-in-white
It's one 360 turn of the knob to go through the full range of grind size. The other Mignon grinders will require multiple 360 turns of grind adjustment to go through the whole range making it difficult to accurately return to a previous used setting for espresso. Assuming when you mention Breville you're talking the Smart Grinder Pro. That would be fine for pour over but IMO not a great choice for espresso. It tends to be slow and clumpy at espresso grind sizes and lacks precise stepless grind size adjustment that makes all the difference for espresso. Hope that helps!
Marc
Awesome thank you for the response. I was definitely thinking about the perfetto but wanted to make sure it would be a good a choice. Sorry about the second part I was talking about for the espresso machine. I did see that the Breville barista pro does come with a grinder so would it be more beneficial to just get a lelit PL41TEM or Rancilio Silvia OT is there a machine that would be better suited for a beginner?
Personally, I’d go Gaggia Classic Pro. It’s a true machine that’ll teach the ropes. Breville is an appliance quality but can work if you’re okay with something that won last forever
Thanks a lot! Been trying to figure this out for the last week or so lol
Would the Silenzio be bad for single dosing? And if it is is there any upgrades such as getting new burrs I can use to improve it?
Hey JB of DD, It's possible to use the Silenzio for single dosing but grinders of this design generally leave a gram or two of ground coffee between the grinding chamber and the end of the delivery chute. Changing out the burrs probably will not help much.
Marc
Are there plans to compare the Ceado E6P, Rocket Faustino, and the Eureka Mignon Magnifico...? I would love that
Hi Bruno, No current plans but I'll see what I can do. In the meantime I do have individual videos on the Ceado grinders here: ruclips.net/video/V-Fnu7R68Tc/видео.html
And the Faustino here: ruclips.net/video/EbHAiVHrmdI/видео.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi! Is a big difference beween Silenzio and Perfetto exept electronic display?
Hi AP, Thanks for the question. That is a big difference between the grinders. Also, the Perfetto adjusts through complete range of grind sizes with in one 360 degree turn of the grind size adjustment knob. The Silenzio takes many complete turn of grind size adjustment to do the same thing. End result is the Silenzio has more precise control of grind size. If looking for Silenzio precision with timed grinding you'll get that in the Eureka Mignon Specialita: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/espresso-grinders/products/eureka-mignon-specialita-16cr-espresso-grinder-in-ferrari-red
Marc
question. are the zilencio and the facile the same grinder?? i saw the specs and those looks like they are the same. the zilencio just have the timer thing. but i just want to make sure.
Hi OO, Yes, the grinders have same specs. Silenzio adds the timing functions and extras on external case.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks so much for the response this is great
so i really like the specialita , but once in a while i want to grind some drip coffee for my dad visiting me maybe 250gms , can it do that ?
Hi EJ, Yes while it's an espresso focused grinder you can grind for drip with the Specialita.
Marc
May I ask if Mignon series are for home use only?
Hi JA, Thanks for the question. Mignon line is generally aimed at domestic/home use.
Marc
In your opinion, is there much difference in grinding quality between a Eureka Mignon Specialità and a Perfetto? Does 5mm flat burrs make a decisive difference? Thank you!
Hi f, thanks for the question. The Specialita is an espresso specialist while the Perfetto is intended as a multi brew method grinder. Grind size adjustment is finer on the Specialita. the 5mm is not a big difference but they do grind a bit faster and may producer slightly fewer fines at espresso grind sizes.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for answering me! I bought the Eureka Mignon Specialista with the single dose hopper for powder retention. This Eureka grinder with my Gaggia will work a lot, in Sicily we have numerous coffee roasters. Greetings and thanks again!
Hey Marc, is there a real difference in taste between a 50mm vs 55mm burr?
Hi YZ, Larger burrs generally produce a more consistent grind particle size. Honestly most would have a tough time tasting a difference as long as all other variables are the same. But, with larger burrs you will have better control of other variables like dose weight and less clumping. Better control of other variables results in more consistency in flavor shot to shot.
Marc
Marc will you guys be stocking the Mignon XL? I'm really interested in it. Looking forward to hearing back, thanks.
Hi Eric, Yes we plan on having it. No ETA at this point.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks!
The cryogenic treatment is just that they machine the burrs at a cold temperature. It makes for a higher quality machined product. It improves life of the burrs because machining at that low a temperature produces cleaners cuts on a microscopic range.
Hi Sam, Thanks for the comment. My limited understanding is the treatment changes the structure of the metal and is not used during machining the metal. Could be wrong.
Marc
If you get a brivelle with a grinder in it do you really need to buy one of these or is the one inside good enough
Hi Samantha, Thanks for the question. So these are definitely better grinders than what you get built into a Breville. They use larger flat burrs and are more precise in dialing in grind size which is one of the most important variables. Do you really need to buy one of these? That depends on your expectations. For some users the built in grinders serve their needs and the built in grinder matches the capability of the machine.
Marc
Hi Mark, trust you are keeping well. I am in the market for a new espresso grinder and was hoping you could help me make a choice. I'm leaning towards the eureka mignon manuale. Is there any other grinder you would recommend at this price point or should I go with the manuale? This grinder will be used purely for espresso. Thanks Jaaved
Hi JJ, thanks for the question. We don't currently carry the Mignon Manuale. We do carry the Mignon Facile which is essentially the same grinder: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-facile-espresso-grinder
I've used it a lot. It's a great no frills grinder and averages 5 out of 5 stars in customer reviews which you can read at the link above.
Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Awesome thanks so much Marc. Think I will settle on the eureka
I have a Silenzio, I'm getting some static meaning the coffee sprays a bit. I know about water on a single dose, but any tips when you use a full bean hopper?
Hi Max, If the grinder is relatively new the static should calm down as the burrs season with coat of coffee oils. Grinding speed will also pick up slightly with seasoning. You can still do the water trick with beans in hopper. Just stir with a damp finger.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc, I appreciate the reply :) great videos too, we picked up a profitec 300 Pro on the strength of your reviews
Manual.
Filtro.
Crono.
Y el silenzio.
I only want it for espresso. Which of the 4 will I refine my grinding better? Thanks in advance
Hi Arthur, Thanks for the question. The Filtro and Crono are intended for brew grinding. They do not have hooks for grinding into a portafilter. I have not used the Manual but I do not believe it has Eureka's silent system for quieter grinding. Other than that it's very similar to the Facile (does have silent system) featured in this video. If okay with manual dosing with no timing functions I'd go with the Facile: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-facile-espresso-grinder It has same grind quality as the Silenzio which ads timed grinding and a lot more color options: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/all-grinders?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Eureka&sort=price-ascending
Hope that helps!
Marc
@@WholelattelovepageOk! The facile would be in Europe the manuele? thanks
After almost 6 months of Perfetto, coming from a Wilfa Svart, I like it because I can jump easily from French Press to Espresso with a consistent grind but there are some features that I would like to be different: retention, its the worst part of this grinder, I can loose around 2 gr every time I put a single dose and even worse its the cleanning, its just a mess, I use an air blower to get rid of the coffee stucked. Metal hook its a bit annoying with my Sage Bambino porta filter. For Espresso I need to arrive until 1.5 (Turk position). French Press its not as coarse as I'd like to but its ok. I've order a single dose air blower from Etsy, looking forward if im able to improve rentention and cleaning all together.
Hi Sergio, Thanks for the feedback. The Perfetto does make it easy to make major grind size changes - it would be a lot of turning on more espresso focused grinders. As I'm sure you are aware it's not a single dosing grinder so will have some retention. 2g is actually quite good for this type of grinder. The air blower may help. Might also consider some RDT is attempting to single dose to helkp get more grind out. Be aware aggressive use of RDT (moistening the beans just prior to grinding) could cause corrosion of burrs if they get wet all the time.
Marc
Can the silenzio used to grind for a french press?
Yes
Hi Marc ... What do you think is convenient silenzio or specialita for personal use mainly oscar 2 and sometime V60
Hi DR. A, Please excue my delayed response. I've been offline for a few days. Actually for multi-purpose grinding I recommend the Mignon Perfetto: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/all-grinders/products/eureka-mignon-perfetto-16cr-grinder-in-matte-black
It has a the full range of grind size for all brew methods available with 1 x 360 turn of the grind size adjustment knob and labeling on the knob various brewing methods for reference. The grinders you mention can work too but require far more turns of the knob to go from espresso to grind for V60. That said they are more precise for dialing in espresso with less change in size per turn of the adjustment. Just harder to make a quick transition from one grind size and back.
Hope that helps!
Marc
Don't forget they also have Mignon Filtro
Hi Mark, would you recommend any of these grinders for a small coffee shop setup that is not overly busy? If so, which one?
Hi Harvis, Thanks for the question. Keep in mind none are technically commercial grinders - so no NSF rating. That said for low volume use I'd look to these 55mm burr Mignon models: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/espresso-grinders?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Eureka&pf_t_burr_diameter=grinder_burrsize%3A55%20mm
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you Marc for taking the time to reply. Keep kicking ass!
@@learntheharvway9431 will do!
Hi Marc, any news on the Mignon XL with the 65mm burrs?
Hi N, I do not have one yet. My understanding is the XL will have the 65mm burrs with the "diamond inside" cryogenic treatment. I do have the Eureka Helios w/65mm burrs and will have video on that within a week or so.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc. Looking forward to your review. Love my Specialita but it gets around 1.2g per second. Bigger burrs with similar retention would be great.
@@taucherguy Might need a cleaning if you haven't already, I believe it's supposed to be a bit faster than that at espresso range. More like 2g/sec I think?
@@taucherguy Eureka Atom 75 can do a better job than Mignon Specialita and is silent too.
From watching other RUclips Videos, Atom 75 has its single dosing hopper and near zero retention
Hey Marc. I've owned a specialita for a little longer than a month, and have a question. What is the intended purpose of having two time presets on the specialita? Is it be be used for alternating between double shots and triple shots? Or used when alternating between different beans? In both of these scenarios, I assume the grind size would also need to also be adjusted/dialed. In that case, why bother with having a second time preset, since grind size can't be saved? (I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that there is some variation/differences introduced when changing back to and from two grind settings. I.e. if I move from 2 to 5 and then back to 2 again. The 2 I end in is not the same as the original 2).
Hi JA, with high quality precision filter baskets you should be able to use same grind size between singles and doubles. Like dial in size for a double and then try something near half that time for a single. Unlikely to be exact half time due to startup of grinding and other variables. But, should be able to find a time for that single that works without changing grind size.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Aahh that makes sense. Would the same principle apply if I'm alternating between a double (17g) to a triple (22g)? I know that the difference between a single to double is more of a difference than a double to triple. However, could I have one timed preset to a double and another to a triple without expecting to readjust my grind setting and have approximately an equivalent extraction? Would the increase in dosage (double to triple, with same grind setting) significantly impact extraction time (20-30 secs), and consequently taste ?
@@Wholelattelovepage This for me is new. I have a Lelit Bianca and I use a grind setting of 1.5 with specialita and IMS barista pro nanotech 18 grams for 2 cup. If i want to use the IMS Barista pro 15 grams and make a double I have to reduce the grind settings to 1.2 or 1 to have the same flow. More grams of coffe more corser, less grams finer This is in my little experience. Where am I wrong? I don't use the proper single basket because everytime I have. adifferent tast of the coffe....for me are impossbile to use...
How does the Atom range compare to the Mignon range? Why would you spend more for the Atom?
Hi Mario, Thanks for the question. The Atom comes in versions with 65mm and 75mm burrs. So you get bigger burrs and more powerful motors. Larger burrs grind faster and produce better grind quality. For high-end or heavy users those qualities are appealing. If considering the Atom have a look at the new Eureka Helios which comes in 65mm and 80mm burr option. The 65mm Helios is about some price as the Atom 65. Helios has an attractive design and upgraded UI. I'll be doing a review of the Helios in the next week or so. Until then here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Mignon Magnifico, Atom 65 and Helios 65: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=NDIxNjQxMzU4NTQ2Miw0NjU5NDU2MTE0NzQyLDQ2NTkzMTQ2MjI1MTg
Hope that helps for now!
Marc
Hello my Man,
I have an Eureka manual grinder , I would like to ask in order to grind Turkish coffee which number is best on the grinder machine? Can you help me please?
Thank you very much
Hi e, I have not tested these grinders for Turkish. You of course want a super fine powdery grind and these grinders are primarily designed for brew methods using espresso grind size (not as fine as Turkish) and larger. I recommend running the grinder with no beans loaded and adjusting to a finer setting until you hear the burrs just touch then quickly back off to a slightly coarser grind setting. That's as fine as you can grind. Try that for your Turkish. Be aware grinding extra fine may result in clogs in the grinder.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you very much for your kindness
Marc on The Rocket Faustino. I read about oily beans some customers said the oily beans would stick in the hopper is this a big problem or just a one off. Also, I have the Apartamento unit. Should I get the Rocket or the eureka specialista what are your thoughts I only do espresso.
Hi Dirk, Don't think oily beans should be a problem. If presenting a problem in the Faustino you'd have similar issues with any grinder. Here's a link to a spec comparison between the Faustino ansd Specialita grinders: /pages/compare?products=MjI2OTQ5MDQ3OTE1OCw0NjM3OTcxMzE2Nzkw Just so you know Eureka makes the Faustino for Rocket so internally the grinders are very similar although the Specialita has 55mm burrs vs. 50mm in the Faustino. Also has a more powerful motor and a much larger range of colors if that's important to you. I'd lean towards the Specialita.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you Marc I’m liking the specialista also
Hey mark are all the 50mm burr sets the same i looked for replacements and only see 1 available?
Hi Steve, To the best of my knowledge 50mm burrs for Mignon grinders are all the same. I believe there are 2 types. Regular and an upgrade to "Diamond Inside" burrs.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc I want to order one from you guys right now
Hi Marc, in terms of build quality would the Specialita be more robust in comparison to the Baratza 270WI (which I also like)? Do they both deliver very similar grind quality? Cheers Marc.
Hey Craig, Sorry for the delayed response! Yes, the Specialita is what I consider machine grade in build quality while the Sette 270Wi is appliance grade. The Sette grinder does have some wear parts. It in fact comes with burr shims that need to be installed after about 3kg of grinding to restore extra fine grinding. Also a felt friction ring between the macro and micro adjustment which eventually will need replacement. It's a $1 part and super easy to replace. I've used the 270Wi a lot! honestly it's magical in dosing weight accuracy. If you will be weighing doses it makes it very easy. When static is not a problem it delivers a beautiful fluffy grind directly into the center of a PF. But, it is susceptible to static. Especially in dry environments. That can be easily reduced/eliminated by stirring beans in hopper with a wet finger. Sette is also a lot louder than the Eureka grinder.
Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc. I really appreciate your help given I can't purchase from Whole Latte Love in New Zealand. I wish I could! You rock! Post Covid, get to NZ. I'll be the first to buy you a beer :)
@@CraigBurton NZ is on my bucket list - so i'll see you for that beer! Also have to get to AU and dive the Great Barrier before it's not so great anymore. Reefs around Florida went to crap over the last couple decades. Also Sydney, AU. Named my daughter born in 2000 after the Olympics. Also worked for a few years with a
Sydney native here in the states. He's a great guy - love the down under attitude!
Marc
would love to see a Eureka Helios 80 vs Ceado E37S comparison and review
Hi James, You want the big boys! Thanks for the request. Next up for me in Eureka is the Helios 65. Expect the 80 a few weeks down the line.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage i can't decide on a high end grinder to go with my ecm synchronika. i have it down to the atom 75 or the Ceado E37S but the Helios 80 seems like a step nicer in design
Hi Marc, what is your option on the Eureka Mignon XL 65 grinder please
Hi AHBHCR, I like the Mignon grinders in general. The XL kicks it up a notch with the larger burrs with the "diamond inside" treatment. The result is burrs which grind faster and larger burrs generally produce a more consistent grind particle size. Diamond treatment results in a burr edge which stays sharper longer. Also some other uprgrades compared to other Mignon grinders like upgraded motor, rubber padding of portafilter support and included tamping station mat kit.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage All going to plan I'm Getting the Mignon XL in April
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, I got my XL yesterday Wednesday Western Australian time, and loving it
So hypothetically… if one did not mind some additional noise, one could get the Notte along with the adjustable portafilter holder and obtain the same result at the same price. But the Facile seems like a great deal, with the metal portafilter holder and the quieter operation. Think I know what I’m asking for Xmas
Hey G, You've got it right. Hopefully Santa is nice this year!
Marc
Hi Marc. I am in tye UK and looking for an espresso grinder to go with my Gaggia Baby Class (to be upgraded in the next year or so) with a budget of around £200 ($250-300) either brand new or 2nd hand. I obly ever do espresso and mostly dark roast but only around 1 or 2 per day so not huge. What would be your recommendation please?
Many Thanks, James.
Hi BIGJim, Thanks for the question. That's tough. At that budget you're a little below getting into a new true machine grade grinder for espresso like the Bezzera BB005. The Breville Smart Grinders are around $200 USD new but I have a hard time recommending them. Very appliance grade, clumpy grinds, slow and not much precision in grind size adjustment. Baratza Sette 30 is ~$250 USD. It's another appliance grade grinder but grinds fast and clump free. The Sette 30 lacks the micro adjustment of the Sette 270 grinders. But you can upgrade a 30 down the road with the 270's macro/micro adjustment if you find it lacks the precision for you needs. Hope that helps!
Marc
I had pretty much decided on the Sette 30 until I saw the 270 but I can't up my budget by that much. I had also looked at the Eureka Mignon Manuale (facile in the US) because it looks to produce really fluffy, consistent grinds but, being an amature, I really like the idea of timed dosing. Of the 2, Mignon or Sette 30, which do you think will produce the best results? I really appreciate your response by the way and any guidance you have. Thanks again. James
Hey, first of all thanks so much for the amazing work, your infinitely more helpful tha you can imagine, even for this of us in the other end of the world, I just have one question.. so I have to clean my grinder every time I get a new coffee ? And if so how do I do it.. thanks.. greetings from Argentina
Is the Magnifico discontinued? It does not seem to be on the Eureka website.
Hi David, Not that I'm aware of. We have them: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-magnifico-coffee-grinder-in-ferrari-red
Marc
Yes I ordered one from you. Along with a Profitec 600. Just want to make sure that the grinder wasn’t discontinued for some reason. Thanks. Love your videos. They work!
What's the difference between the specialita to the facile ???
Hi AH, Thanks for the question. Those grinder are nearly identical internally. Specialita adds 2 timed grinding presets. The Facile is completely manual on demand. Also, a bunch of color options and more exterior styling upgrades on the Specialita. Facile is all black only. Hope that helps!
Marc
Did you measure the retention for all of them?
Hi Ben, Thanks for the question. No I did not but retention should be nearly identical across the line for the 50mm and 55mm burr grinders.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Nice so they're all fairly good in that department if they're similar to the 55mm specialita. I'm hoping the Mignon XL with 65mm burrs is going to be even better, it claims to have low retention, but they might just mean 18g in = close to 18g out.
Why are mine Specialita display light white, and all these is blue???
Hi AB, Not sure. Maybe a slight difference in production?
Marc
Waiting for the Mignon XL.
we'll have it if and when!
Why can I not get my facile to grind lighter roasts fine enough for espresso? Burrs touching still too coarse.
Hi big, Are you sure burrs are touching? If they are you should not be getting any ground coffee out of the grinder. And, while it's okay for burrs to briefly touch with no beans in the grinder to find the actual zero point of the grinder you should never attempt to grind coffee with burrs touching. Any chance you believe you're at finest setting because you're set to "0" on the grind size adjustment knob? If so, know the numbers on the knob are for reference only and do not relate to a particular grind size or setting.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I solved the problem which ended up being extremely misaligned burrs from the factory. The burrs were indeed touching. Found a how to video did the marker test and ended up having to shim the top burr by removing the burr from carrier and placing aluminum shims under 2/3 of the burr. Re tested with with marker seemed to do the trick. Now am able to grind even the lightest roast to choke point of machine. Also this 100% corrected all my channeling and inconsistent shots.
Having a hard time deciding between the settee 270 or the Facile.
Hi David, The big difference... The Sette is an appliance and the Facile is a machine grade product with higher build quality. That said, I do like the Sette 270. It's rather loud but produces a nice fluffy well distributed grind and it does it fast. It's a good choice for lower volume use. It does have some wear parts like a felt friction ring between the macro and micro grind size adjustment. Also comes with burr shims you need to install (easy to do) after about 6lb/3kg of grinding to restore fine grinding range. The Facile with it's more rugged build quality should outlast the Sette. It's grind size adjustment is just as precise as the Sette and some (most espresso folks) prefer grinding with flat burrs like in the Facile over the conical burrs in the Sette.
Marc
Good idea keeping the name label on the bottom, this could've become confusing quickly
Hi TM, Thanks for the comment. Yes, they all do look rather similar!
Marc
Good way of saving money, using the same body parts, it's smart and they're all good quality I believe!
I noticed in the manual it states to shut off and unplug when not in use. Is it necessary to turn it off?
Hey me me, That advice is mostly for safety reasons. Like unplugging a blender when not in use to protect kid's fingers.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage So can I just leave it on 24/7?
@@Unhappywithcongress Yes if not concerned with safety issue
So I guess the Facile is the same as the Notte only with a metal portafilter hook. Love my Notte. It's plenty of grinder for a good espresso.
Hi MF, Thanks for the comment!
Marc