If you turn on vsync. I’m pretty sure the game’s double buffer vsync will kick in. It basically makes it so if it can’t keep 30 it will switch to a solid 20fps. As bad as that sounds this actually makes the frame times a lot more stable. With less input lag. It’s also roughly what the PS3 actually ran the game at. On ps3 it switches to 20fps very often. Pretty much anytime it gets busy on screen. So if you want an OG experience of what the PS3 offered, there you go. Standards were definitely different back then.
@khfreak5531 I did wonder how it worked, the PS3 version definitely feels better paced when dropping frames after playing them consecutively. makes perfect sense 👌🏻 Much appreciated 👍🏻
Thank you! Your settings got me up and running smooth! I just dont have the same audio. Its broken on unlimited and 30. Even doing the switch both ways. But still Thank you!
@aaronsloan4375 the sound is a balancing act really, make sure you set the manual gpu clock like in the video. You'll never fix it completely as it's caused by the steam deck processor/gpu's core count & limited power... But you can get it like 90% there. There may have been quite a few updates since this video also, so could affect it, either way hope you get it sorted 👍🏻
@novaillx which version of rpcs3 are you using? This is the emudeck version but was a while ago so been multiple updates. With stuff like that, you generally find its process of elimination Eg, it could be a bad disk image or just errors when the file was copied over/extracted. Also worth joining the emudeck discord, sometimes there are regressions in performance with certain emulators (like at the moment, the proton Cemu emulator controls just won't work in game mode no matter what you do 😅) But yeah, my first thought with that would be the disk image itself, Try re-extracting the image from the source first and see if that works
@novaillx okay, so we know its not the game then. Like i said, with stuff like this its process of elimination! So next, what version of rpcs3 are you using?
these settings does not work for oled version I think. I kept having "the PS3 application has likely crashed, you can close it". I was able to play it after booting the game with custom global configuration and the recommendation settings on the rpcs3 website and same patches you have on. hope this helps if you have a oled version.
@lettucefarmmer Thanks for the heads up matey, Obviously I can't test this myself just yet, but if that's the case I'll get round to doing another guide when I get my hands on one 👍🏻
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l Double check it's actually freezing, The compilation times when playing this on the steam deck are pretty insane... like 30 minutes plus at times. Best way to make sure is to bring up the full performance metrics, should show all cpu cores at 100% which means it's still compiling ppu's and hasnt crashed (even though itll look like it has) 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 it took 2 hours to bring “snake” fully on the screen and it still don’t work, also on the screen appear 100% loading data. I also activate the performance metrics but the cpu is at 76% instead of 100%.
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l Okay, try this. When starting a new game, set SPU to Auto And Spurs Threads to unlimited. Wait to get past the initial intro/video cut scenes, Then as soon as you're in game save and exit. Change the spu threads to 4 and spurs to 3 and reload
@kabl00muk94 thanks for the help, but I I can’t start a new game. The game is freezing on the initial download data screen when “snake” stand in the black background
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l ahhh okay, There's been a few updates to rpcs3 since so could be a conflict with one of my settings maybe? Mines still working fine with the latest updates to rpcs3 and these settings though... Only other thing i can think is, is it the same game version? Also, your cpu % should read 0 if its crashed so just double check it's not actually loading. If the fans are still going and it's still showing CPU usage, you should be able to bring up the side bars, in which case it won't have crashed
@donquixotewillam9583 so before following this video you did the update and applied the no crash fix? Also do you have the same game version? ( it's in the settings bit of the video, tells you on the main rpcs3 menu)
Dude i have this problem but a bit different. the menu was fine but gameplay only lasted 5 secs before freezing. I watched philodox gamer’s video on the settings he used, he even provided the update files to be downloaded. I used his update instead of the newest auto patch and it works. Might wanna try that if you still can’t run it
@kabl00muk94 when you say version do you mean what's listed under the serial? Blus30109? Because that's the only thing I can think of that I night be doing differently. Game loads fine and then shits the bed when the TV sequence starts. I've changed spurs and the other thing for the opening like you said but I can't seem to get it working
whenever I start a new game and then select my difficulty my game freezes. It seems the emulator itself is working fine however, since I can open the menu to exit the game, save state, etc.
@manlyboyman1220 yeah this game has veeeeeeeeeery long compilation times. It looks like it's crashed, but if you look at the cpu use it'll all be at 100%, Go make a coffee and have a sandwich trust me 😅
@RespecTimeSkills Did you get the Canary patches from the WiKi link? wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots (Scroll to the bottom) Also, is the game updated and the same serial number as in this video?
@kabloom Uk every time I get past loading the modules it says the saves are corrupt and then it goes to install the game but then freezes any tips? Any won’t load up to the start menu
@jbconnolly1 that sounds like a corrupt disk image matey, never seen that message before, but it does happen as I've had it with other games Try re-transfering/unpacking the game is all I can think to suggest here
@jbconnolly1 I can't speak to the source of the disk image matey, but sometimes if something is compressed (zip,rar,etc) there can be errors when unpacking. So first thing would be to unpack the game again and see if you get the same result, if no joy then try sourcing another version from elsewhere. As to where from, I really couldn't say, all my games are legit disk images from games I own so I'd recommend that route where possible myself to avoid any errors
Got this working tho for some reason I get no audio at all when I select faudio, but it’s perfect when I leave it at the normal settings runs flawless for me 50-60fps thanks!
@jbconnolly1 tbf I've not tried it in a while, would've been a fair few updates since I put this together so maybe they've found a way to fix the sound in a newer update? Either way, great news! Might give it another look over the weekend 👍🏻
@maze1323 try and make sure no system level frame cap is left on, also follow what i do with the GPU clocks in the video. Other than that, it needs to be the same version, updated and with the fixes/patches shown. If it's a yes to all those, are you using the emudeck version of rpcs3?
I watched the vid again and realized it was a me thing, thank you it performs like the video And yes I am using the emudeck version , will I encounter problems?
@maze1323 only problem is the ppu compilation time on steam deck, takes forever on the first run 😅 Aside from that though no, should be smooth sailing! Glad you got it sorted 👍🏻
@ROGUEPRODUCTIONZ Set spu to auto and spurs to unlimited to start with, get through the intro video, in to actual gameplay and then save, exit and change it to these settings in the video 👍🏻
@rahmannoodles163 so you've got the 2.0 update installed and the no crash fix active? (It won't work without those). Also check the game version you have, the serial number should be the same as the one in this video. Other than that, it should work perfectly provided you copy these settings (I've reinstalled it a few times, so I'm pretty sure it works as advertised). Only thing I could advise is looking at some other videos for the initial patch setup & follow the steps exactly, a few available with a quick search on here 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94I have all of those with the same serial number and same version. I followed all the steps too. it isn't instantly black it just builds the spu cache then remains on a black screen
@rahmannoodles163 okay, definitely 2.0 that performs the best. The only thing I'll say is bring up your steam overlay/metrics to show cpu usage (should show 0-7), then when the screen goes black look at the cpu usage. If it's showing 100% on all cores, it hasn't crashed its just taking forever to build it... the initial install and setup you're looking at a good 30-50 minutes 😅 Playing on here isn't ideal, but it's what we get atm. Look at it like this, Prepare to go make a sandwich and have a coffee between chapters because the loading times are complete ass on the deck
With your configs my game starts with black screen right away. But if I boot with default configurations the game starts. I already tried the game and installed the game before applying any of this. Does this impact on anything? What am I doing wrong?
@devilsdante dude if youre getting better results outside of my settings, crack on with what you're using! It does also depend on if you're using the lcd or oled, as this is more a sound fix with the sound issue being caused by the weak ass clocks on the lcd (oled has higher clocks so could be enough to fix the sound without the need for all this, I don't know) You have to use default settings until you get past that first intro video anyway, or it just crashes after that. So you don't switch the settings until you're past the mad adverts and are in game and have saved. Then you exit, reload with these settings 👍🏻
@Zach-dx1xp it's probably not crashing matey, It takes 30 minutes and upwards to even load a new game on steamdeck whilst it's compiling. It 100% looks like it's crashed whilst that's happening, even performance graph will freeze up, But that's just how this loads purely due to the cpu load. It's a lot of 'hurry up and wait' emulating this on a 4 core/8 thread cpu that's power limited unfortunately
It is indeed, if you're not bothered about full audio and use 4 spurs, the framerate is now pretty impressive with stock clocks tbf. Steam deck will always be massively underpowered for it unfortunately, so I'll take what I can get currently 😅
@@kabl00muk94 Are you sure about the audio issues? there's a github issue saying if you install the game on a old version of rpcs3 and then install data it fixes the audio sorting issues. I haven't tried it tho and the old rpcs3 requires a full ppu build to just run it.
@PixogenPixels yeah I saw a bit here and there about that on reddit, I could only find references to windows though? If it is applicable to the deck, I'd be interested in the results 100%! I think the sound is to do with using an underpowered cpu personally though, The same thing happens on Rog Ally/Windows when you knock the tdp down to 15w from 25w. The other thing is the recent Rpcs3 improvements to low end cpu performance, It's done a LOT for this games performance and the sound on the steam deck. I could be wrong though, I hope I am tbh 😂👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 Yeah I mean the audio thread could be cpu starved (and given how the deck is low powered not surprising.) It's a shame cause I find even at 23-25 mgs4 feels really playable.
@PixogenPixels yeah, I'd be happy with the lowest point being 20fps tbf... a fair way to go yet though I suspect on this hardware 😅 Yeah, what makes me think it's a power/wattage issue is when you convert the sound to 16bit audio it helps out loads with audio cutouts. I'll be honest, I think the main issue that causes such drastic fps drops is a rendering distance issue. Always seems to happen if you point the camera in a direction where there's loads going on in the map, even with tons of assets between the player character and that point, it drops drastically. Ideally I'd be sifting through the HLE and LLE* options in advanced to find the option responsible for rendering and play with that.... But there's literally no repository available to show what option relates to what function (that I can find anyway). So until another update or someone posts that repository, This is the best I've managed without changing bios, clocks and tdp settings.
Is it normal for the game to build spu cache at game launch longer and longer (bigger and bigger) the more I progress within the game or the more often I launch the game again? I have version 1.0 of the game, directly dumped from my physical copie. I updated to version 2.0 today, now I have to wait (again) for the ppu modules (it says around 4h), so I couldn't check if that problem went away with the version update.
@thisbadmonkey that's standard, shader cache, etc will be wiped on update unfortunately... Shouldn't be 4 hours though I don't think, a Fresh ppu comp was taking me in the region of an hour before. Let me know how you get on and if you're still having the same problems 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 before update to ver.2.0 it took around 2h 50min. Right now I'm still at 3h. 😅 Maybe I did something wrong (missed an rpcs3 update or something). This is the first time using rpcs3 really. Tbh I installed it only to play mgs4 on steam deck.
@@kabl00muk94 as far as I remember I installed rpcs3 via Emudeck. It took me some time from installing the emulator to actually be able to use it because I had to buy a ps3 and the game first for dumping purposes. Some other reasons could be: I have mgs4 in folder Format because I read ISOs are not supported with rpcs3. Also I've stored the game on microSD (fast enough for every other game I played so far without issues).
@alexanderfrench4255 For the opening cinematic, set SPU threads to Auto & spurs to unlimited, then as soon as you're in game, save, exit to emulator and change them back to the settings in this video 👍🏻
That PPU loading thing is brutal but it works! My main issue is with the audio, which cuts out like 70% of the time during regular gameplay and Codec calls. Is there any setting I can mess with to see if it gets better?
@leorolando1924 it's still cutting out that much? That's the main reason I posted these settings tbh, this was the only settings combination that gave me a half decent audio experience whilst still being playable... It'll still cut out in parts when everything goes mental, but no way around that atm unfortunately (at least not that I've seen). There's some reddit forums saying to use an older version of Rpcs3 which I've not tried. But in my experience, the same ISO and same emulator version has full sound on the ROG Ally... so I'm like 90% sure it's a problem with the core count/power limit on the deck 😅
@@kabl00muk94 I actually think I forgot to move the Audio Buffer Duration to the minimum on RCPS3 while I was doing the setup. I figured since the option to Enable Buffering was unchecked that this was also taken care of, but I moved it to 4ms and I think it's noticeably better (before I could hear probably one out of five of Snake's steps so it was impossible to stealth and now it just seems to cut off intermitently). So yeah, seems like it was nothing. Thanks a bunch for this guide! Especially since the process to get this running decently is so involved and I would've never figured this shit out myself. Other than the PPU loading thing, I think I might play through this again as it is. If you ever feel up to it, it would be cool to figure out a way to get Twisted Metal running alright too. That was my other big one after MGS4 as far as tough games to run.
@leorolando1924 glad it's sored buddy, yeah the audio thing was a bit of an accidental discovery tbf 😂 I'll have a look at twisted metal if I can, not sure when but I'll try my best to get one sorted 👍🏻 Glad it's working though 👌🏻
@@kabl00muk94 Hey I think I just found something to make the audio better in case you wanna try it out. If you have PowerTools installed in Decky Loader, just go to the GPU section and set the minimum to 900MHz. No idea why this worked, but the audio got immediately better on my end.
Hey there first of all thanks for the video and the detailed explanation, for some reason im stuck at the initial loading screen at “installing” is it normal for taking this long?
@@kabl00muk94 ah ok thanks I wasnt sure if the game crashed or it continued to compile PPUs in the background the only indication I had it was the decks fan it spins like a hair dryer 😅😅
Thank you so much for posting these settings! I launched the game for the first time, and it’s been stuck at the last progress segment of the PPU loading for like 20 hours 😭 Is that normal? I don’t want to exit and clear the cache if it’s almost done -_-
@CeicoCat-j1j I'm sorry to say its completely normal, playing this game on the deck may make you eat more..... because it's enough time to watch 30 mins of tv, have a coffee and a sandwich between some scenes 😅 Some are really quick to load tbf, but there's some raaaaather lengthly ones
@@kabl00muk94 quick update that I applied the settings but updating to a new micro SD card may have botched the games’ shader and required installation. I keep getting an odd message about not having enough HDD space to install, even though it’s already been installed and I’ve updated to a larger sd card. Will probably reset and try again.
@jmstampe ahhhh that's a wounder. How are other transferred games running? Same issues or just mgs4? Hope you don't have to reinstall everything matey 🤞🏻
@@kabl00muk94looks a reinstall and cache reset worked. Settings are getting me past the title screen and “New Game” gun firing. Did you get a lot of slow down and hiccups on the beginning commercial cinematics where you can change channels? It seemed the more I just let it go, it stabilized more.
Dude, your configuration is totally on point compared to the others I've tried. I can actually play it, minimal stutter once shader cache compiles, small audio drag or cuts hear and there with some slight crackling but nothing crazy. This is awesome, thanks for sharing and definitely subbing.
It runs just as poorly as the PS3 original. Honestly an incredible display on the steam decks part, especially once you take into account you can get a refurbished model for
My sentiments exactly, this is on an older LCD 256gb model so seen some use 😂 But yeah, it pretty much sits in line with the PS3 (give or take a few fps here and there). Like you say, for the price now it's a steal 👌🏻 There's actually a Digital Foundry video that has a Framerate graph on some of these scenes from the PS3 so a good comparison, SD isn't quite there yet but not far off
It ran decent on og ps3. Basically 30 fps besides the few indoor top down views where it hit 60fps. -the grungy color grading, it holds up pretty well imo.
@@PixogenPixels yeah it runs really well tbf, All thanks to Kojima and his preference for unlocked frame rates imo. Even if it drops to 20fps in the extreme, you're still running at 60hz so still feels responsive 👌🏻 And yeah, strangely enough the 'brown era' filter is there with steam deck emulation, when I tested it on the Rog Ally that filter just isnt there (unless there's some setting I've missed, don't think so though....) So despite the better performance on the Ally, at least the steam deck is a much closer experience visually to the PS3
@@kabl00muk94 it's still just jittery and the audio is no way near as good as yours. The part where the armoured vehicle comes in and the soldiers walk out consistently doesn't play the engine sound. Even the otacon tips dont play
@@kabl00muk94the audio craps out a lot and the in game codec calls are inaudible. The part in the beginning where the armoured vehicle drops off some soldiers, i dont hear the engine
@luukderuijter1332 strange, that was the problem I had and these settings where the only way I managed to fix it. You've definitely copied all the settings? 480p internal resolution, convert audio, etc? Only thing I can think is an update to rpcs3 has maybe caused a regression? I'll try running it on my end again with the newer updates, but won't be until this eve, possibly tomorrow 👍🏻
If you turn on vsync. I’m pretty sure the game’s double buffer vsync will kick in. It basically makes it so if it can’t keep 30 it will switch to a solid 20fps. As bad as that sounds this actually makes the frame times a lot more stable. With less input lag. It’s also roughly what the PS3 actually ran the game at. On ps3 it switches to 20fps very often. Pretty much anytime it gets busy on screen. So if you want an OG experience of what the PS3 offered, there you go. Standards were definitely different back then.
@khfreak5531
I did wonder how it worked, the PS3 version definitely feels better paced when dropping frames after playing them consecutively. makes perfect sense 👌🏻
Much appreciated 👍🏻
This is certainly an improvement to how it ran prior on Steam Deck.
@Creeper_ofDoom yeah I'd 100% agree, far from where we'd ideally like it, but you take what you can get currently👍🏻
Hats off to the Rpcs3 Devs 👌🏻
Thank you! Your settings got me up and running smooth! I just dont have the same audio. Its broken on unlimited and 30. Even doing the switch both ways. But still Thank you!
@aaronsloan4375 the sound is a balancing act really, make sure you set the manual gpu clock like in the video.
You'll never fix it completely as it's caused by the steam deck processor/gpu's core count & limited power...
But you can get it like 90% there.
There may have been quite a few updates since this video also, so could affect it, either way hope you get it sorted 👍🏻
Keeps saying "the PS3 application has likely crashed, you can close it" when trying to build spu cache. What do I do?
@novaillx which version of rpcs3 are you using? This is the emudeck version but was a while ago so been multiple updates.
With stuff like that, you generally find its process of elimination
Eg, it could be a bad disk image or just errors when the file was copied over/extracted.
Also worth joining the emudeck discord,
sometimes there are regressions in performance with certain emulators (like at the moment, the proton Cemu emulator controls just won't work in game mode no matter what you do 😅)
But yeah, my first thought with that would be the disk image itself,
Try re-extracting the image from the source first and see if that works
@@kabl00muk94okay I'm trying rn hopefully I have it done by tomorrow, I will let u know 😅
@@novaillx fingers crossed that's all it will be 🤞🏻
Yeah, let us know how you get on 👍🏻
Update: no luck idk what to do
@novaillx okay, so we know its not the game then.
Like i said, with stuff like this its process of elimination!
So next, what version of rpcs3 are you using?
these settings does not work for oled version I think. I kept having "the PS3 application has likely crashed, you can close it". I was able to play it after booting the game with custom global configuration and the recommendation settings on the rpcs3 website and same patches you have on. hope this helps if you have a oled version.
@lettucefarmmer
Thanks for the heads up matey,
Obviously I can't test this myself just yet,
but if that's the case I'll get round to doing another guide when I get my hands on one 👍🏻
I followed all the steps, game is freezing in the loading data screen (in game)
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l
Double check it's actually freezing,
The compilation times when playing this on the steam deck are pretty insane... like 30 minutes plus at times.
Best way to make sure is to bring up the full performance metrics, should show all cpu cores at 100% which means it's still compiling ppu's and hasnt crashed (even though itll look like it has) 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 it took 2 hours to bring “snake” fully on the screen and it still don’t work, also on the screen appear 100% loading data. I also activate the performance metrics but the cpu is at 76% instead of 100%.
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l
Okay, try this.
When starting a new game, set SPU to Auto
And Spurs Threads to unlimited.
Wait to get past the initial intro/video cut scenes,
Then as soon as you're in game save and exit.
Change the spu threads to 4 and spurs to 3 and reload
@kabl00muk94 thanks for the help, but I I can’t start a new game.
The game is freezing on the initial download data screen when “snake” stand in the black background
@LorenzoDeMuro-l8l ahhh okay,
There's been a few updates to rpcs3 since so could be a conflict with one of my settings maybe?
Mines still working fine with the latest updates to rpcs3 and these settings though...
Only other thing i can think is, is it the same game version?
Also, your cpu % should read 0 if its crashed so just double check it's not actually loading. If the fans are still going and it's still showing CPU usage, you should be able to bring up the side bars, in which case it won't have crashed
did everything and the game just wont work it keeps freezing in the start menu and the sound allways buffering any suggestion of what to do
@donquixotewillam9583 so before following this video you did the update and applied the no crash fix?
Also do you have the same game version?
( it's in the settings bit of the video, tells you on the main rpcs3 menu)
Set spu to auto andspurs to unlimited to start with, get through the intro in to actual gameplay and then save, exit and change it to these settings
Dude i have this problem but a bit different. the menu was fine but gameplay only lasted 5 secs before freezing. I watched philodox gamer’s video on the settings he used, he even provided the update files to be downloaded. I used his update instead of the newest auto patch and it works. Might wanna try that if you still can’t run it
@kabl00muk94 when you say version do you mean what's listed under the serial? Blus30109? Because that's the only thing I can think of that I night be doing differently. Game loads fine and then shits the bed when the TV sequence starts. I've changed spurs and the other thing for the opening like you said but I can't seem to get it working
whenever I start a new game and then select my difficulty my game freezes. It seems the emulator itself is working fine however, since I can open the menu to exit the game, save state, etc.
@manlyboyman1220 yeah this game has veeeeeeeeeery long compilation times.
It looks like it's crashed, but if you look at the cpu use it'll all be at 100%,
Go make a coffee and have a sandwich trust me 😅
how did you get cell spurs 4.91 ? I downloaded the update and the canary patches and I still get the 4.89 version please help
@RespecTimeSkills
Did you get the Canary patches from the WiKi link?
wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots
(Scroll to the bottom)
Also, is the game updated and the same serial number as in this video?
@kabloom Uk every time I get past loading the modules it says the saves are corrupt and then it goes to install the game but then freezes any tips? Any won’t load up to the start menu
@jbconnolly1 that sounds like a corrupt disk image matey, never seen that message before, but it does happen as I've had it with other games
Try re-transfering/unpacking the game is all I can think to suggest here
@@kabl00muk94 does that mean it’s a bad rom or any tips to fix it and get past this?
@jbconnolly1 I can't speak to the source of the disk image matey, but sometimes if something is compressed (zip,rar,etc) there can be errors when unpacking.
So first thing would be to unpack the game again and see if you get the same result, if no joy then try sourcing another version from elsewhere.
As to where from, I really couldn't say, all my games are legit disk images from games I own so I'd recommend that route where possible myself to avoid any errors
Got this working tho for some reason I get no audio at all when I select faudio, but it’s perfect when I leave it at the normal settings runs flawless for me 50-60fps thanks!
@jbconnolly1 tbf I've not tried it in a while, would've been a fair few updates since I put this together so maybe they've found a way to fix the sound in a newer update?
Either way, great news!
Might give it another look over the weekend 👍🏻
Thanks for your time
After the dolby part it slow downs real bad but it is still running pls help
@maze1323 try and make sure no system level frame cap is left on, also follow what i do with the GPU clocks in the video.
Other than that, it needs to be the same version, updated and with the fixes/patches shown.
If it's a yes to all those, are you using the emudeck version of rpcs3?
I watched the vid again and realized it was a me thing, thank you it performs like the video
And yes I am using the emudeck version , will I encounter problems?
@maze1323 only problem is the ppu compilation time on steam deck, takes forever on the first run 😅
Aside from that though no, should be smooth sailing!
Glad you got it sorted 👍🏻
I cant find the flickering texture fix or cellspurs
@@ROGUEPRODUCTIONZ
You need to apply them yourself 1st
wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Help:Game_Patches#Manually_adding_custom_patches
@@kabl00muk94thank you!
Im having audio problems though
@ROGUEPRODUCTIONZ
Set spu to auto and spurs to unlimited to start with, get through the intro video, in to actual gameplay and then save, exit and change it to these settings in the video 👍🏻
I want to play it on steam deck, but the ppu buildup is a pain. On my pc it took forever so I don't think I can deal with it again.
i followed all the steps but when i boot the game its just a black screen and the fans are loud
@rahmannoodles163 so you've got the 2.0 update installed and the no crash fix active?
(It won't work without those).
Also check the game version you have, the serial number should be the same as the one in this video.
Other than that, it should work perfectly provided you copy these settings (I've reinstalled it a few times, so I'm pretty sure it works as advertised).
Only thing I could advise is looking at some other videos for the initial patch setup & follow the steps exactly, a few available with a quick search on here 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 I have both
@@kabl00muk94I have all of those with the same serial number and same version. I followed all the steps too. it isn't instantly black it just builds the spu cache then remains on a black screen
I also can't find any other up to date videos. the most recent one apart from this says to use version 1.0 and not 2.0 and performs worse
@rahmannoodles163 okay, definitely 2.0 that performs the best.
The only thing I'll say is bring up your steam overlay/metrics to show cpu usage (should show 0-7), then when the screen goes black look at the cpu usage.
If it's showing 100% on all cores, it hasn't crashed its just taking forever to build it... the initial install and setup you're looking at a good 30-50 minutes 😅
Playing on here isn't ideal, but it's what we get atm.
Look at it like this,
Prepare to go make a sandwich and have a coffee between chapters because the loading times are complete ass on the deck
With your configs my game starts with black screen right away. But if I boot with default configurations the game starts. I already tried the game and installed the game before applying any of this. Does this impact on anything? What am I doing wrong?
@devilsdante dude if youre getting better results outside of my settings, crack on with what you're using!
It does also depend on if you're using the lcd or oled, as this is more a sound fix with the sound issue being caused by the weak ass clocks on the lcd (oled has higher clocks so could be enough to fix the sound without the need for all this, I don't know)
You have to use default settings until you get past that first intro video anyway,
or it just crashes after that.
So you don't switch the settings until you're past the mad adverts and are in game and have saved.
Then you exit, reload with these settings 👍🏻
Hey don’t know if you know how to sort this issue, but my game crashes as soon as the gunshot goes off when I hit new game
@Zach-dx1xp it's probably not crashing matey,
It takes 30 minutes and upwards to even load a new game on steamdeck whilst it's compiling.
It 100% looks like it's crashed whilst that's happening,
even performance graph will freeze up,
But that's just how this loads purely due to the cpu load.
It's a lot of 'hurry up and wait' emulating this on a 4 core/8 thread cpu that's power limited unfortunately
Rpcs3 New update?
It is indeed, if you're not bothered about full audio and use 4 spurs, the framerate is now pretty impressive with stock clocks tbf.
Steam deck will always be massively underpowered for it unfortunately, so I'll take what I can get currently 😅
@@kabl00muk94 Are you sure about the audio issues? there's a github issue saying if you install the game on a old version of rpcs3 and then install data it fixes the audio sorting issues. I haven't tried it tho and the old rpcs3 requires a full ppu build to just run it.
@PixogenPixels yeah I saw a bit here and there about that on reddit,
I could only find references to windows though?
If it is applicable to the deck,
I'd be interested in the results 100%!
I think the sound is to do with using an underpowered cpu personally though,
The same thing happens on Rog Ally/Windows when you knock the tdp down to 15w from 25w.
The other thing is the recent Rpcs3 improvements to low end cpu performance,
It's done a LOT for this games performance and the sound on the steam deck.
I could be wrong though,
I hope I am tbh 😂👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 Yeah I mean the audio thread could be cpu starved (and given how the deck is low powered not surprising.) It's a shame cause I find even at 23-25 mgs4 feels really playable.
@PixogenPixels yeah, I'd be happy with the lowest point being 20fps tbf... a fair way to go yet though I suspect on this hardware 😅
Yeah, what makes me think it's a power/wattage issue is when you convert the sound to 16bit audio it helps out loads with audio cutouts.
I'll be honest, I think the main issue that causes such drastic fps drops is a rendering distance issue.
Always seems to happen if you point the camera in a direction where there's loads going on in the map,
even with tons of assets between the player character and that point, it drops drastically.
Ideally I'd be sifting through the HLE and LLE* options in advanced to find the option responsible for rendering and play with that....
But there's literally no repository available to show what option relates to what function (that I can find anyway).
So until another update or someone posts that repository,
This is the best I've managed without changing bios, clocks and tdp settings.
Is it normal for the game to build spu cache at game launch longer and longer (bigger and bigger) the more I progress within the game or the more often I launch the game again?
I have version 1.0 of the game, directly dumped from my physical copie.
I updated to version 2.0 today, now I have to wait (again) for the ppu modules (it says around 4h), so I couldn't check if that problem went away with the version update.
@thisbadmonkey that's standard, shader cache, etc will be wiped on update unfortunately...
Shouldn't be 4 hours though I don't think, a Fresh ppu comp was taking me in the region of an hour before.
Let me know how you get on and if you're still having the same problems 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 before update to ver.2.0 it took around 2h 50min.
Right now I'm still at 3h. 😅 Maybe I did something wrong (missed an rpcs3 update or something). This is the first time using rpcs3 really. Tbh I installed it only to play mgs4 on steam deck.
@thisbadmonkey are you using stand alone rpcs3 or the emudeck version?
I use emudeck in this, don't thing there's much difference but just to be sure
@@kabl00muk94 as far as I remember I installed rpcs3 via Emudeck. It took me some time from installing the emulator to actually be able to use it because I had to buy a ps3 and the game first for dumping purposes.
Some other reasons could be: I have mgs4 in folder Format because I read ISOs are not supported with rpcs3. Also I've stored the game on microSD (fast enough for every other game I played so far without issues).
@thisbadmonkey
Fair play, just make sure the serial number for the game in rpcs3 is the same as the one in this video too btw, that's a BIG factor 👍🏻
I’m getting a crash after the TV sequence at the beginning. Do you know which setting can be used to fix it?
@alexanderfrench4255
For the opening cinematic, set SPU threads to Auto & spurs to unlimited, then as soon as you're in game, save, exit to emulator and change them back to the settings in this video 👍🏻
That PPU loading thing is brutal but it works! My main issue is with the audio, which cuts out like 70% of the time during regular gameplay and Codec calls. Is there any setting I can mess with to see if it gets better?
@leorolando1924 it's still cutting out that much?
That's the main reason I posted these settings tbh,
this was the only settings combination that gave me a half decent audio experience whilst still being playable... It'll still cut out in parts when everything goes mental, but no way around that atm unfortunately (at least not that I've seen).
There's some reddit forums saying to use an older version of Rpcs3 which I've not tried.
But in my experience,
the same ISO and same emulator version has full sound on the ROG Ally... so I'm like 90% sure it's a problem with the core count/power limit on the deck 😅
@@kabl00muk94 I actually think I forgot to move the Audio Buffer Duration to the minimum on RCPS3 while I was doing the setup. I figured since the option to Enable Buffering was unchecked that this was also taken care of, but I moved it to 4ms and I think it's noticeably better (before I could hear probably one out of five of Snake's steps so it was impossible to stealth and now it just seems to cut off intermitently). So yeah, seems like it was nothing.
Thanks a bunch for this guide! Especially since the process to get this running decently is so involved and I would've never figured this shit out myself. Other than the PPU loading thing, I think I might play through this again as it is.
If you ever feel up to it, it would be cool to figure out a way to get Twisted Metal running alright too. That was my other big one after MGS4 as far as tough games to run.
@leorolando1924 glad it's sored buddy, yeah the audio thing was a bit of an accidental discovery tbf 😂
I'll have a look at twisted metal if I can, not sure when but I'll try my best to get one sorted 👍🏻
Glad it's working though 👌🏻
@@kabl00muk94 Hey I think I just found something to make the audio better in case you wanna try it out. If you have PowerTools installed in Decky Loader, just go to the GPU section and set the minimum to 900MHz.
No idea why this worked, but the audio got immediately better on my end.
Hey there first of all thanks for the video and the detailed explanation, for some reason im stuck at the initial loading screen at “installing” is it normal for taking this long?
@@HydeRvt takes an actual age... like leave it and check back in 30 mins 😅😂
@@kabl00muk94 ah ok thanks I wasnt sure if the game crashed or it continued to compile PPUs in the background the only indication I had it was the decks fan it spins like a hair dryer 😅😅
Thank you so much for posting these settings! I launched the game for the first time, and it’s been stuck at the last progress segment of the PPU loading for like 20 hours 😭 Is that normal? I don’t want to exit and clear the cache if it’s almost done -_-
@CeicoCat-j1j I'm sorry to say its completely normal, playing this game on the deck may make you eat more..... because it's enough time to watch 30 mins of tv, have a coffee and a sandwich between some scenes 😅
Some are really quick to load tbf, but there's some raaaaather lengthly ones
@@kabl00muk94 Thank you so much!! I’ll go eat something then 🥲
Will try and give update. So far I’ve been unlucky, using countless posts and videos.
@jmstampe yeah I had to trawl through a ton of stuff to get this up and running. Hope you get it sorted 👍🏻
@@kabl00muk94 quick update that I applied the settings but updating to a new micro SD card may have botched the games’ shader and required installation. I keep getting an odd message about not having enough HDD space to install, even though it’s already been installed and I’ve updated to a larger sd card. Will probably reset and try again.
@jmstampe ahhhh that's a wounder.
How are other transferred games running? Same issues or just mgs4?
Hope you don't have to reinstall everything matey 🤞🏻
@@kabl00muk94looks a reinstall and cache reset worked. Settings are getting me past the title screen and “New Game” gun firing. Did you get a lot of slow down and hiccups on the beginning commercial cinematics where you can change channels? It seemed the more I just let it go, it stabilized more.
Dude, your configuration is totally on point compared to the others I've tried. I can actually play it, minimal stutter once shader cache compiles, small audio drag or cuts hear and there with some slight crackling but nothing crazy. This is awesome, thanks for sharing and definitely subbing.
It runs just as poorly as the PS3 original. Honestly an incredible display on the steam decks part, especially once you take into account you can get a refurbished model for
My sentiments exactly, this is on an older LCD 256gb model so seen some use 😂
But yeah, it pretty much sits in line with the PS3 (give or take a few fps here and there).
Like you say, for the price now it's a steal 👌🏻
There's actually a Digital Foundry video that has a Framerate graph on some of these scenes from the PS3 so a good comparison,
SD isn't quite there yet but not far off
It ran decent on og ps3. Basically 30 fps besides the few indoor top down views where it hit 60fps. -the grungy color grading, it holds up pretty well imo.
@@PixogenPixels yeah it runs really well tbf,
All thanks to Kojima and his preference for unlocked frame rates imo.
Even if it drops to 20fps in the extreme, you're still running at 60hz so still feels responsive 👌🏻
And yeah, strangely enough the 'brown era' filter is there with steam deck emulation, when I tested it on the Rog Ally that filter just isnt there (unless there's some setting I've missed, don't think so though....)
So despite the better performance on the Ally, at least the steam deck is a much closer experience visually to the PS3
And just to be clear, it’s more than a decent play on the PS3 and not a poor experience.
dont seem to get the same performance as you :(
@luukderuijter1332 why what's occurring fps/sound wise?
@@kabl00muk94 it's still just jittery and the audio is no way near as good as yours. The part where the armoured vehicle comes in and the soldiers walk out consistently doesn't play the engine sound. Even the otacon tips dont play
@@kabl00muk94the audio craps out a lot and the in game codec calls are inaudible. The part in the beginning where the armoured vehicle drops off some soldiers, i dont hear the engine
@luukderuijter1332 strange, that was the problem I had and these settings where the only way I managed to fix it.
You've definitely copied all the settings? 480p internal resolution, convert audio, etc?
Only thing I can think is an update to rpcs3 has maybe caused a regression?
I'll try running it on my end again with the newer updates, but won't be until this eve, possibly tomorrow 👍🏻
Oh internal resolution is set to 720. Also, i hope it doesn't make a difference that im playing on a separate monitor