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@martynuke6756 100%, as low as you can get... tbh I was pretty amazed at how good it still looks, so not as bad as it sounds 👍🏻

@thisbadmonkey that's standard, shader cache, etc will be wiped on update unfortunately... Shouldn't be 4 hours though I don't think, a Fresh ppu comp was taking me in the region of an hour before. Let me know how you get on and if you're still having the same problems 👍🏻

@@kabl00muk94 before update to ver.2.0 it took around 2h 50min. Right now I'm still at 3h. 😅 Maybe I did something wrong (missed an rpcs3 update or something). This is the first time using rpcs3 really. Tbh I installed it only to play mgs4 on steam deck.

@thisbadmonkey are you using stand alone rpcs3 or the emudeck version? I use emudeck in this, don't thing there's much difference but just to be sure

@@kabl00muk94 as far as I remember I installed rpcs3 via Emudeck. It took me some time from installing the emulator to actually be able to use it because I had to buy a ps3 and the game first for dumping purposes. Some other reasons could be: I have mgs4 in folder Format because I read ISOs are not supported with rpcs3. Also I've stored the game on microSD (fast enough for every other game I played so far without issues).

@thisbadmonkey Fair play, just make sure the serial number for the game in rpcs3 is the same as the one in this video too btw, that's a BIG factor 👍🏻

Wish I could get that far without it crashing 😂

@aaronsloan4375 the sound is a balancing act really, make sure you set the manual gpu clock like in the video. You'll never fix it completely as it's caused by the steam deck processor/gpu's core count & limited power... But you can get it like 90% there. There may have been quite a few updates since this video also, so could affect it, either way hope you get it sorted 👍🏻

@CeicoCat-j1j I'm sorry to say its completely normal, playing this game on the deck may make you eat more..... because it's enough time to watch 30 mins of tv, have a coffee and a sandwich between some scenes 😅 Some are really quick to load tbf, but there's some raaaaather lengthly ones

@@kabl00muk94 Thank you so much!! I’ll go eat something then 🥲

@@HeccHead z1 extreme

@manlyboyman1220 yeah this game has veeeeeeeeeery long compilation times. It looks like it's crashed, but if you look at the cpu use it'll all be at 100%, Go make a coffee and have a sandwich trust me 😅

@@rubenslootmaekers2742 I usually would, really bad throat and chest infection when I did this though so hard to talk too long 😅

@@rubenslootmaekers2742 that is possible but they dont work its a problem of compatibility in the format of the audio archives the only solución its wait an update of winlator that only occurs on some versions of fallout 4 i already installed in mi cellphone with audio but is a old versión of the game of 42gb

The performance for heavy emulation on the S23 y S24 its a shame the procesor is regulated for no give all of his power in the S phones 😢

@@ROGUEPRODUCTIONZ You need to apply them yourself 1st wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Help:Game_Patches#Manually_adding_custom_patches

@@kabl00muk94thank you!

Im having audio problems though

@ROGUEPRODUCTIONZ Set spu to auto and spurs to unlimited to start with, get through the intro video, in to actual gameplay and then save, exit and change it to these settings in the video 👍🏻

@donquixotewillam9583 so before following this video you did the update and applied the no crash fix? Also do you have the same game version? ( it's in the settings bit of the video, tells you on the main rpcs3 menu)

Set spu to auto andspurs to unlimited to start with, get through the intro in to actual gameplay and then save, exit and change it to these settings

@@HydeRvt takes an actual age... like leave it and check back in 30 mins 😅😂

@@kabl00muk94 ah ok thanks I wasnt sure if the game crashed or it continued to compile PPUs in the background the only indication I had it was the decks fan it spins like a hair dryer 😅😅

@luukderuijter1332 why what's occurring fps/sound wise?

@@kabl00muk94 it's still just jittery and the audio is no way near as good as yours. The part where the armoured vehicle comes in and the soldiers walk out consistently doesn't play the engine sound. Even the otacon tips dont play

​@@kabl00muk94the audio craps out a lot and the in game codec calls are inaudible. The part in the beginning where the armoured vehicle drops off some soldiers, i dont hear the engine

@luukderuijter1332 strange, that was the problem I had and these settings where the only way I managed to fix it. You've definitely copied all the settings? 480p internal resolution, convert audio, etc? Only thing I can think is an update to rpcs3 has maybe caused a regression? I'll try running it on my end again with the newer updates, but won't be until this eve, possibly tomorrow 👍🏻

Oh internal resolution is set to 720. Also, i hope it doesn't make a difference that im playing on a separate monitor

@jmstampe yeah I had to trawl through a ton of stuff to get this up and running. Hope you get it sorted 👍🏻

@@kabl00muk94 quick update that I applied the settings but updating to a new micro SD card may have botched the games’ shader and required installation. I keep getting an odd message about not having enough HDD space to install, even though it’s already been installed and I’ve updated to a larger sd card. Will probably reset and try again.

@jmstampe ahhhh that's a wounder. How are other transferred games running? Same issues or just mgs4? Hope you don't have to reinstall everything matey 🤞🏻

@@kabl00muk94looks a reinstall and cache reset worked. Settings are getting me past the title screen and “New Game” gun firing. Did you get a lot of slow down and hiccups on the beginning commercial cinematics where you can change channels? It seemed the more I just let it go, it stabilized more.

Dude, your configuration is totally on point compared to the others I've tried. I can actually play it, minimal stutter once shader cache compiles, small audio drag or cuts hear and there with some slight crackling but nothing crazy. This is awesome, thanks for sharing and definitely subbing.

@roo3005 no probs. 0.1-7139-gdf979d46 (dev) Make sure you look under 'view' from desktop as some options won't show by default 👍🏻

@Creeper_ofDoom yeah I'd 100% agree, far from where we'd ideally like it, but you take what you can get currently👍🏻 Hats off to the Rpcs3 Devs 👌🏻

Instead of VATS, It's replaced with bullet time (basically slow motion for precision aiming). Works great tbf

@Zach-dx1xp it's probably not crashing matey, It takes 30 minutes and upwards to even load a new game on steamdeck whilst it's compiling. It 100% looks like it's crashed whilst that's happening, even performance graph will freeze up, But that's just how this loads purely due to the cpu load. It's a lot of 'hurry up and wait' emulating this on a 4 core/8 thread cpu that's power limited unfortunately

@leorolando1924 it's still cutting out that much? That's the main reason I posted these settings tbh, this was the only settings combination that gave me a half decent audio experience whilst still being playable... It'll still cut out in parts when everything goes mental, but no way around that atm unfortunately (at least not that I've seen). There's some reddit forums saying to use an older version of Rpcs3 which I've not tried. But in my experience, the same ISO and same emulator version has full sound on the ROG Ally... so I'm like 90% sure it's a problem with the core count/power limit on the deck 😅

@@kabl00muk94 I actually think I forgot to move the Audio Buffer Duration to the minimum on RCPS3 while I was doing the setup. I figured since the option to Enable Buffering was unchecked that this was also taken care of, but I moved it to 4ms and I think it's noticeably better (before I could hear probably one out of five of Snake's steps so it was impossible to stealth and now it just seems to cut off intermitently). So yeah, seems like it was nothing. Thanks a bunch for this guide! Especially since the process to get this running decently is so involved and I would've never figured this shit out myself. Other than the PPU loading thing, I think I might play through this again as it is. If you ever feel up to it, it would be cool to figure out a way to get Twisted Metal running alright too. That was my other big one after MGS4 as far as tough games to run.

@leorolando1924 glad it's sored buddy, yeah the audio thing was a bit of an accidental discovery tbf 😂 I'll have a look at twisted metal if I can, not sure when but I'll try my best to get one sorted 👍🏻 Glad it's working though 👌🏻

@@kabl00muk94 Hey I think I just found something to make the audio better in case you wanna try it out. If you have PowerTools installed in Decky Loader, just go to the GPU section and set the minimum to 900MHz. No idea why this worked, but the audio got immediately better on my end.

@rahmannoodles163 so you've got the 2.0 update installed and the no crash fix active? (It won't work without those). Also check the game version you have, the serial number should be the same as the one in this video. Other than that, it should work perfectly provided you copy these settings (I've reinstalled it a few times, so I'm pretty sure it works as advertised). Only thing I could advise is looking at some other videos for the initial patch setup & follow the steps exactly, a few available with a quick search on here 👍🏻

@@kabl00muk94 I have both

​@@kabl00muk94I have all of those with the same serial number and same version. I followed all the steps too. it isn't instantly black it just builds the spu cache then remains on a black screen

I also can't find any other up to date videos. the most recent one apart from this says to use version 1.0 and not 2.0 and performs worse

@rahmannoodles163 okay, definitely 2.0 that performs the best. The only thing I'll say is bring up your steam overlay/metrics to show cpu usage (should show 0-7), then when the screen goes black look at the cpu usage. If it's showing 100% on all cores, it hasn't crashed its just taking forever to build it... the initial install and setup you're looking at a good 30-50 minutes 😅 Playing on here isn't ideal, but it's what we get atm. Look at it like this, Prepare to go make a sandwich and have a coffee between chapters because the loading times are complete ass on the deck

My sentiments exactly, this is on an older LCD 256gb model so seen some use 😂 But yeah, it pretty much sits in line with the PS3 (give or take a few fps here and there). Like you say, for the price now it's a steal 👌🏻 There's actually a Digital Foundry video that has a Framerate graph on some of these scenes from the PS3 so a good comparison, SD isn't quite there yet but not far off

It ran decent on og ps3. Basically 30 fps besides the few indoor top down views where it hit 60fps. -the grungy color grading, it holds up pretty well imo.

@@PixogenPixels yeah it runs really well tbf, All thanks to Kojima and his preference for unlocked frame rates imo. Even if it drops to 20fps in the extreme, you're still running at 60hz so still feels responsive 👌🏻 And yeah, strangely enough the 'brown era' filter is there with steam deck emulation, when I tested it on the Rog Ally that filter just isnt there (unless there's some setting I've missed, don't think so though....) So despite the better performance on the Ally, at least the steam deck is a much closer experience visually to the PS3

And just to be clear, it’s more than a decent play on the PS3 and not a poor experience.

With batocera v40? Have you made sure you have the correct bios in the correct folder? My advice (if you haven't already) is to look for a tutorial and make sure you follow each step exactly, plenty out there via RUclips or Google for the written guides/screen shots.

It is indeed, if you're not bothered about full audio and use 4 spurs, the framerate is now pretty impressive with stock clocks tbf. Steam deck will always be massively underpowered for it unfortunately, so I'll take what I can get currently 😅

@@kabl00muk94 Are you sure about the audio issues? there's a github issue saying if you install the game on a old version of rpcs3 and then install data it fixes the audio sorting issues. I haven't tried it tho and the old rpcs3 requires a full ppu build to just run it.

@PixogenPixels yeah I saw a bit here and there about that on reddit, I could only find references to windows though? If it is applicable to the deck, I'd be interested in the results 100%! I think the sound is to do with using an underpowered cpu personally though, The same thing happens on Rog Ally/Windows when you knock the tdp down to 15w from 25w. The other thing is the recent Rpcs3 improvements to low end cpu performance, It's done a LOT for this games performance and the sound on the steam deck. I could be wrong though, I hope I am tbh 😂👍🏻

@@kabl00muk94 Yeah I mean the audio thread could be cpu starved (and given how the deck is low powered not surprising.) It's a shame cause I find even at 23-25 mgs4 feels really playable.

@PixogenPixels yeah, I'd be happy with the lowest point being 20fps tbf... a fair way to go yet though I suspect on this hardware 😅 Yeah, what makes me think it's a power/wattage issue is when you convert the sound to 16bit audio it helps out loads with audio cutouts. I'll be honest, I think the main issue that causes such drastic fps drops is a rendering distance issue. Always seems to happen if you point the camera in a direction where there's loads going on in the map, even with tons of assets between the player character and that point, it drops drastically. Ideally I'd be sifting through the HLE and LLE* options in advanced to find the option responsible for rendering and play with that.... But there's literally no repository available to show what option relates to what function (that I can find anyway). So until another update or someone posts that repository, This is the best I've managed without changing bios, clocks and tdp settings.

Pretty sure it's in options (use dpad and start to navigate), could do with some myself as you can see 😅

I've not been back to this since the RT update tbf, might be a while as I've currently got other stuff I'm working on, but I'll see what I can do 👍🏻

I've not tried it myself, although I can't see why not. You'd most likely need a 2nd pad too though, as youll still need that for the start button to continue 👍🏻

Ahhh.... thats actually really good... God damn it😤😂👌🏻

Got to the rpcs3 wiki for mgs iv, make sure you're following the custom settings on there 👍🏻

Do it through control pannel in Windows, set a manual cap @ 40fps. Otherwise, set refresh to 120hz and then go with 1/3 vsync option 👍🏻

That's gutting, did you manage to sort it? Can only speak personally but I don't think that ever happened for me, maybe an update causing it?

@@kabl00muk94 yes I did. Thanks for asking. I had to enable something in the games’ settings on Steam. I can’t remember exactly what though.

@jamesharry4587 well either way, glad it's sorted 👌🏻👍🏻

Compilation took a while, but not that long I don't think, but yeah just copied settings from Rpcs3 wiki tbh 👍🏻

Yes

Keep vsync on in that case, there's a small hit to performance but shouldn't really matter as when you knock it down to 45hz it will sync to that refresh. This video was a while back and there have been lots of changes to steam os (not able to set external monitor refresh rate after 3.5 for example, i used to be able to knock my oled glasses down to 45hz but that option is now gone for some reason....)

Just using the older fan profile, newer one is quieter but thermals get pretty high

@@kabl00muk94 older fan profile? Whats this?

just keeps getting improved upon too, God bless the emulation community 😂🙌🏻

@jamiemartin9322 See, I prefer the visuals on PS3, but i do like the higher frame rates in heavier scenes on the Ally personally. MGS4 on PS3 runs unlocked surprisingly, there are points it does hit 60fps, but Kojima loves jumping all over the place with Frame rate for slow mo, etc. The man is a legend 😎👌🏻

​@@kabl00muk94Yeah, looking at it objectively, I'd say the Ally is the better visually. But stylistically I like the frame rate as well as the yellower tones on the PS3

@jamiemartin9322 yeah, the 360/PS3 'Brown-era' gets a lot of criticism understandably... But in hindsight and looking at the same game side by side, it really did work to its advantage. There's also a colour vibrancy setting in the PS3 settings that helped with how it looks in this. The PS3 is an mazing bit of kit to go back to after this long, so much innovation over the lifespan and the home screen is just 👌🏻❤️

1hr 30 - 40 mins there or there abouts. Not the best but then you're running a AAA modern game on a handheld I suppose so to be expected

Yeah, however as resi 3 is more open you'll get dips much lower so maybe go a bit lighter on the settings

The steam deck supports VRR on this monitor though, so anywhere between 50fps and 120fps you don't really notice. Also latency is noticeably reduced at 120hz, so deffo worth using imo. But each to their own I suppose, I just prefer the response time at 120hz vs 60hz. I will say though, literally thousands of games can maintain a solid 120hz on deck, not just retro games 👍🏻

Bro, I'm that person. I just want that monitor for playing csgo at 120hz on my steam deck. I'm that guy

xd

Steam deck can stream from my PC which runs at 144hz so having 120hz portable monitor would be awesome

@@blankp4ge but it will be some latency

Really does, sometimes works though, seen it maintain 10.1gb in heavy areas