Your Level One Charger is slow! Here's how to speed it up significantly! - Kia Hyundai Class
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2022
- The default speed of your level one charger on the Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 is slow, but it can be sped up significantly. In this video, Charlotte walks you through how to do that!
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Don't let anyone tell you that you "need" a level two EVSE (it is not a charger). I have used the level one EVSE that came with my 2014 Nissan Leaf from the start. It provides all the energy I need for my daily driving, charging over night when I'm asleep and the rates are low. It doesn't matter if it has to charge for hours - you're sleeping. If you plug in when you get home, set the charge timer to run from 7pm to 7am (Ontario Off-Peak Electricity Hours), you will wake up with 120 more Kilometers in your EV6 battery. No extra cost for a level 2 EVSE, no installation charges, and more than enough range for most daily driving.
Thank you for your comment here cuz I am thinking on the same lines. How’s the charging in winter? I am in Ontario too
I agree BUT, some utilities offer special overnight rates if you get a wifi connected Level 2 EVSE that the utility can curtail during peak events. My US utility offers $0.08 per kWh (equivalent to $0.60 per gallon gas) vs. my normal retail "tail block" rate of $0.174168. All utilities let you over-ride their control of your EVSE, but some utilities charge you a lot extra if you charge during their peak and some re-set all your previous discounted charging for the month to the regular retail rate.
Great job, very helpful little trick.
Thank you for this video and for the people making comments as well. I've got the Genesis GV60 and it comes with the same charger shown and I didn't know that I needed to wait until "charging started" was announced to change the speed.... then I saw the "watch out for garage door opener amps" comments - did a test and success! Now instead of 10-15 miles a night maybe, I'm getting over 30 miles. Makes a world of difference for me. Thank you everyone.
Glad we could help! Enjoy the Genesis!
very helpful. People just need to be aware that depending on what else is plugged into that same circuit that they may blow a fuse on their panel. Easy issue to manage, but something to watch for.
Yeah, most people won't have issues with 12 amps of draw, but you're absolutely correct. We love that you can adjust the charger, but we want people to be aware that the default setting is a much slower setting than what the charger is capable of. In general most people want the fastest possible charge, regardless of the charger that they're using, so we're hoping that this video will help EV6 owners out.
@@BrantfordKia most garage plugs are on a 15amp breaker, and the modern garage door opener has an average draw of 3 to 5amps. That and the charger would lead to the breaker to fault.
Most outlets are 15 amp with multiple outlets on the same circuit and connected to a 20 amp circuit breaker. A garage may have one or more circuits. Best to have an electrician wire up and install a Level 2 charger for the most convenience. Check your local electric utility for rebates or special offers as they can often cover this cost completely or partially. Get a few quotes to ensure your getting a reasonable price. The Level 1 charger will help a great deal in the meantime.
That is such great info! I drive a ton and park outside my office most of the time.. and often don't charge at work because I think.. what's the point.. the Level 1 is next to the slowest thing on earth. But this made me all excited to charge here lol Yay Free power!
Thank you for the videos. All of them. 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Great channel for Kia Family !!!!
Thanks for your kind words!
Shoutout to Charlotte! 😍
Very cool feature, and very well presented too.
Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I had a hunch about the block having the option to increase the charge speed.
Thanks for this. As a new EV6 owner, it's REALLY helpful.
I'd be interested in your advice on the best settings to maximise distance travelled on a charge. There are lots of variables, but presumably one set of the variables will produce the best range. Motorway driving is particularly thirsty, so that advice and any other ideas will be very welcome
Great info. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great work newbie!
Charlotte and Gabi are going to do a great job!
Great tip but to avoid fire risk from overheating it is important to stay one step below the amperage that the socket is rated for. Also don't use extension leads unless (a) in a pinch and (b) there are rated for the given amperage and fully unrolled.
Great tip!!! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Periodttt ill be sure to remember this!
Thank you! seriously, thank you!
Great video thank you....does the EV6 come with the 120V charger or is a separate accessory?
vi kalder det "RIP OFF" Burde være med ved køb af elbiler, næste gang skal man nok også betale ekstra for bilrettet !!! tak for den friske video Henrik har en KIA EV6
Good job!
Thanks Kyle!
Very helpful
Great tip Charlotte! I know I've seen some discussion on the IONIQ 5 forums about this topic - many people didn't know this.
Yeah, we wanted to make sure that people were aware, and knew how to use the feature.
Thank you very much for the helpful and informative videos. Will this apply to the Hyundai IONIQ 5 2023 edition also? And will there be a walkaround/review of the 2023 edition when it becomes available? Kind regards from the Netherlands.
yes. i’m using it now for my IONIQ 5 as well! 😊
Is the plastic on the control unit of the level 1 charger supposed to be removed. I can see that it's still on your unit ..
Hyundai seems to be using the same charger now in the UK and I wasn't sure if I should leave it on or try to remove it ..
Interested to see a view about charging PHEV's as well! 😊
Currently our Canadian PHEV's don't use the same types of charge cables as these, but these are likely what we'll see in the near future.
This is really a nice EV. Just that if the price could be lowered a bit. It would be perfect.
Question, does EV6 come with level 1 charge cable? I brought a 2022 Kia EV6 and no cable charger ( even level 1) at all. Am I missing something ?
Hi, could you tell me the length of the level 1 charging cable provided with the vehicle? I have ordre my Kia, and I need to prepare my installation. Thanks
Does this also work for the Kia soul ev. I’m getting my soul ev very soon, but I live in a condo town house with a parking lot instead of a driveway. I’m lucky enough to have my parking spot close to my house but it’s still just over 15 feet away from the power outlet and my condo board won’t approve the installation of a home charger.
My ev6 didn’t come with a level one charger. Was it supposed to?
Yes - the larger amperage is a good idea; just don't have say something else drawing power on the same circuit ideally.
Exactly.
Hi how many km with be added per 1 hr charge. Thank you 😊
I would be careful and recommend slightly lower amperes than the home fuse allows. I would also be careful and check if the cables and connectors are new and capable of the right and long charge that it means to charge an EV.
Most plugs in Canada are at least 15 amps. This charger allows up to 12.
That's great ! Do you know if it remembers the 12A setting for next time, after the charger is turned off and on again ?
It does, once you set the level you want it stays set
Hi there, I am in Orillia Ontario and I don't know how you have an EV6. Orillia Kia said no one in Ontario has them. (Kia hasn't shipped them yet) I would love an opportunity to test drive the ev6. But I would also like to know what battery management it has (is Heating and cooling of the battery). Thanks I can't wait for your reply!.
Hi Frank, We’ve had several for quite a while. Feel free to reach out to me using the link in the description of this video, and we’ll connect you with our sales team to get you behind the wheel of an EV6 and talk about your specific questions.
I think they do that on purpose because most 15amp circuits are shared. It's nice to be able to crank them up if you have a dedicated plug like I have in my garage.
Yeah, I think you're correct. We just feel that it's important for our customers to know so that they don't have to wait an extra 10 or 20 hours to receive a full charge.
Is this supposed to come with a wind AWD EV6?
Nice
can i daisy chain 2 or 3 different circuits so it draws 30 to 50 amps
Will this trick work for the 2023 Sportage Plug in hybrid?
Thank you.
Yes, I just changed to 12 for my Sportage
Great tip Charlotte, that's neat. What would you say the estimated charge time from 0-100% would be charging at this voltage at lvl1 for the EV6 AWD Long Range ?
It was 40 to 50 hours from 50 percent on our charger, but it can vary quite a bit.
You have to multiply the voltage by the amperage. In this case, 12x110=1320 OR 1,32KW/h.
Battery is 77KWh so 77divided by 1.32=58.3.
0%~100% in 58hrs
@@noahnoah5066 sweet thanks !
Why is the level 1 charger not recommended? It's perfect for me, charges from the solar while I work from home. I'm always somewhere between 20 and 80%. Stays below my solar maximum, so it keeps me off the grid.
Once you set it to 12 amps, do you have to change it to 12 every time? Or is that the new default until changed again?
Once you change it to 12A, it stays on 12A - you don't have to change it again.
I have a new Ioniq6 and it’s very slow charging. If I switch from 6 to 12 for home charging, do I have to put it back to 6 for more rapid chargers like level 2 or 3? Thanks!
No, the level one set amount is independent for this device and doesn't effect other sources
Thanks!
I want to purchase the level 1 adapter
Where do I get that Charge?
Will this work for the Kia Sorento? I'm planning on buying the plugin hybrid, and since I rent, I'm 99% sure the landlord won't let me install a level 2 charger.
The Sorento PHEV will come with a similar plug to this that will draw 12 amps unless it can't.
It would but may not really be necessary - if you were looking to top off your PHEV's battery even a level 1 EVSE ("charger") may work just fine - the battery sizes in PHEV's are usually much smaller than full battery EV's and of coarse the gas engine charges the battery when needed. If you're planning on eventually getting a battery EV then having a level 2 "charger" may be worth it. The other reason I can think of might be if you drive less than the battery range in your PHEV - you could avoid the gas station for quite some time.
Mine says fault blinking. What does it mean?
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My granny charger keeps spitting a fault.. any ideas?
Great Job, Charlotte!!! Don't forget to introduce yourself next time!!!
Yup! If that's the only issue, I think we're off to a great start!
I looked and mine was already set to 12, and it’s still charging super slow. Sad.
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Can someone tell me why l can get 255 miles on 100percentage charge
Great presentation, Charlotte (same name as my niece)! Garage and kitchen plugs can tolerate higher amps as I learned last week when I had a PHEV press car to test.
Kia should design the charging amp adjustment so the driver can set it within the car’s infotainment system….I would be miserable if it was -15C out and I had to fiddle with that charger setting button with my frozen hands, haha
**not crazy high amps, but between 8-15A should be ok if using a garage or kitchen plug
My volt has it inside, so kia should take notes. Just got a Niro phev for my wife and was frustrated it took so long to charge, so this video was gold.
what did you do with Peter
Check out the main video on our RUclips page. Peter is taking a step back from some of the on camera work right now. Gabi and Charlotte are going to be on camera much more in the coming weeks.
I've heard that Kia EV6 doesn't come with Level 1 charger (EVSE)... well at least here in "the states."
Yeah, I'm hearing the same thing from our subscribers. In Canada, we do get the level 1 charger.
Does this work with a Tucson phev?
Up until now, the Tucsons had a different style charger. If your charger looks like this, it will work like this.
Is that feature also on the kia niro phev or no
The current Niro PHEV in Canada uses a different style charger, but other parts of the world does have similar chargers for PHEVs. This looks like the plug of the future for our PHEV and EV lineup, in my opinion.
@@BrantfordKia if possible I currently have a 2020 kia niro phev I would love more info on new level charger tech if you get any an cost thank you
Would that work for a Kia Soul?
My Kia Soul EV has a slightly different type of charger that doesn't have a button to adjust things.
What's the cost to have a level 2 installed at home?
It can really vary. In some cases many garages are pre-wired for them, but in general it's not all that expensive.
I'm not sure in Canada - here in the US prices average in the $1000 USD to $2000 USD depending on the length of the run of cable, type of circuit breaker and receptacle outlet type with the biggest part of the cost being the cost of the cable - check the prices for 6 AWG 3 wire (you may be able to go with 2 wire plus ground - again it depends on the plug type of your EVSE). The prices of the EVSE (what's commonly known as the "charger") can be as little as $175 for a level 2 to over $1000 for a level 2 with a bunch of fancy features - keep in mind that most of those features may not be needed unless you have lower rates for electricity off-peak hours or want communication between other "chargers" on the same circuit - if you have only one EV or only one "charger" you can likely spend much less for a level 2 EVSE. When I say "charger" I mean EVSE (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment) - the actual charger is built into your EV. I would suggest budgeting about $2000 CAD for both the receptacle (plug) and EVSE ("charger") - but again a significant amount of cost will be in the cable between your service panel (breaker box) and where your level 2 EVSE is located - if your breaker box is in the garage and that's where you plan to charge your EV you're in good luck and the costs can be significantly lower. There's lots of great videos here on RUclips that talk about level 2 charging - even the Tesla ones are helpful as the plug type for fastest level 2 charging is usually the 14-50 plug type - the plug that goes into the EV itself will be different but the outlet install will be very similar.
I'm pretty annoyed that we bought an EV6 2023 last night and it came no charger at all.
I asked for one and got it from the salesman, who perhaps paid for it?
Can someone please tell me why level 1 charging? With tables that have been provided with the actual car??? Why recommend level 2? Besides the fact that it lowers charging time? Thank you
Level 1 charging can be accomplished just about anywhere there is access to a power outlet. The charging speed isn’t great, however, with a 10 hour charging session one could easily get 40 to 50 miles or 65 to 80 kilometers of range. That’s why they provide these kind of chargers. Since one could typically charge an EV overnight every night it is possible for many drivers to manage very well with a Level 1 charger. I believe eventually many drivers opt in for the convenience of a Level 2 charger knowing they will always have a full charge no matter how much how usage they had during the day. A Level 1 charger may mean one needs to manage the charging times. If the battery gets nearly fully charged at least once a week and the usage and charge times for the week are managed, it may very well suffice to just use a Level 1 charger. Long trips, use a DC Fast charger. It’s not that difficult to get a connection installed for a Level 2 charger so many just go that route. Once one has an electric vehicle one usually don’t go back to internal combustion engine so a Level 2 charger is an investment in charging infrastructure. I hope this helps. ⚡️ ✅
@Mike Hedrick I realised I made a mistake 😀 was meant to ask .... as lady mentioned, charging car with level 1 charger isn't good. My question was meant to be, why it isn't good??? The car comes with trickle charger that does 2-3kw so take 30 hours to fully charge car. That's why most petiole getting level 2 charger 7-11 kW so it gives full charge over night. But why she mentioned level 1 charger isn't good to use ...
We don't recommend using the level 1 charger as your primary charger simply because the way many people drive, they will likely find themselves short on charge one day. Having said that, Peter has been charging his Kia Soul EV almost exclusively with a level 1 charger for over 2 years now. It can be done.
@Kia Hyundai Channel So basically it is the inconvenience that it will take 30+ hours to charge ev6 from 10% to full charge. Pretty much just have to be on top of things and charge it as much daily and keeping it topped up I guess 😀
I have 1 quite important question if I may ask ..... most cell phones, eva etc it is recommended to keep the battery charged between 20-80% and minimise doing full cycle charges, rather small top ups if I may call it ..... so when it comes to ev6, what is recommended for it's battery? To prolong the lifespan of the battery? Much appreciated 😉
@@elrebelde4610 Like you said, to keep the battery between 20-80% state of charge is generally recommend for the best battery life. It’s not really an inconvenience to plug the vehicle in for most people. For me it was always inconvenient to have to stop for fuel on the way to work or on the way home when the stations are the busiest. A Level 2 charger and your car set for an 80 percent charge you’ll be able to drive a long ways everyday. Don’t worry about charging to 100% when required as this is recommended to be done once in a while. Unless you drive a lot, you would only need to charge at home. A Level 1 charger generally uses a little less power than an electric 1500 watt heater. 1500W = 1.5kW I hope all this information is helpful for you. ✅
Level one charging will keep extend the battery life over level 2 chargers.
Is there a way to change the charging rate inside the car
You said increase charge time. I believe we want decreased charge time?
Yes, adjusting this can decrease your charge time (or increase it if you slow the charge)
Canadian EV6s come with L1 chargers? Damn, they hosed the US owners...
Another great reason to move to Canada!
Or just buy the IONIQ 5 ;-) Those come with the same L1 EVSE as you see there. I'd heard that Kia did some research that many EV6 buyers were previous EV owners and just like most smart phone makers figured they didn't need to include cables or "chargers" anymore - I thought that was bogus. Personally, I'd have the dealer include one since a lot of dealers are asking more than MSRP (I know this dealer doesn't). I plan on having a level 2 EVSE ready for when I bring my IONIQ 5 home but still a L1 EVSE is a pretty much a "must"
Either way, it’s very rewarding to plug-in a vehicle, in your garage, have it preheated in the morning, and wave as you pass by the fueling stations. A Level 1 charger is a must have, if nothing else to have it in the vehicle. It’s a rewarding one time purchase if not included with the vehicle.
Certainly great to tell people, but if someone is on a 15amp breaker, they need to know if anything else is plugged into the circuit drawing 4amps they will fault the breaker.
I think most people understand that.
I kind of doubt most people have an understanding of exactly which outlets in their house are on which breakers and what size those breakers are. Also at 12 amps you are at 80% of a standard 15 amp branch circuit which is the recommended usage limit so at 12 amps it's intended to be on a dedicated 15 amp circuit.@@BrantfordKia
Hey Charlotte make sure to always introduce yourself to your audience, otherwise great presentation.
It's always tough doing something new! We think she did a great job too! Thanks for watching!
Lol my car does that from inside for settings 😂 guess my car is advance since 2014 ELR CADILLAC 💪
That’s assuming NOTHING else is on the same circuit as that plug. 12A is the max amount you should be using on a typical 15A circuit in a house
Most people have level two chargers at home? I doubt that very much., considering the price.
Well we are a real dealership, and we deal with real customers… a majority of them who are buying an EV are also outfitting level 2 charging into their home. Since a majority of of charging is typically done at home and level 2 speed is very convenient for daily drivers, it is the most popular option.
@@BrantfordKiaOnce you set it to 12 amps, do you have to change it to 12 every time? Or is that the new default until changed again?
Nice video, but you didn’t mention that the level one charger for Kia isn’t included, if you buy this vehicle make sure you have someway to charge
We film in Canada, where the level 1 charger IS included with the vehicle.
It's included where I am too.
Hi guys, do you know IF Canada will receive the 2023 new Kia Niro???
Comparison video of the 23 NIro vs old version below:
ruclips.net/video/swgSLbx7bxs/видео.html
We have no official information on the next generation Niro in Canada, but I would expect it to arrive very late this year.
Love the shorter form videos. The live ones are to long.
We usually blend our long-form with short form, but for the month of April we won't be doing the longer form videos, so we've saved a number of these shorter videos to be filmed and posted in late March and April. We recognize that the long form videos aren't for everyone!
It's pronounced Hoon Day.
95% of people can get by with level 1. ive used a supercharger twice in 3 years. who are these ppl commuting more than 100km a day, get another job
Taxi drivers
I mean, some people drive for work. But, I agree, I’ve had 4 plug-in hybrids and an all electric and I’ve never felt the need to upgrade to a level 2. Why Kia’s charge so slow is ridiculous, my Honda clarity and both my rav4 primes fully charged in like 8 hours, and my Ioniq EV 140 mile range fully charged in 19-20. Plug it in at night and good to go the next day.
My commute is only 15 miles one way but I’m a one household car and there’s a lot of trips to baseball, grocery store, etc.. adds up quick.
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I drive 105 km to work every day. Does that mean I have to give up my $80,000 a year job because you don’t like it that I have to drive more than 100 km?? Well I better get on that now🙄🖕🏼
So primitive. Tesla mobile charger can be controlled directly from the phone.
Level #1 drive efficiently Level #2 crazy fast drivers,,... the more you drive the more it costs,, still alot lower than gas
So how much charging u get per hour
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Can someone tell me why l can get 255 miles on 100percentage charge
Try use Eco mode to drive, and don’t use AC or go up few degrees in the summer.