I feel like the superbreak team, not just firefly doing damage should be taken to account. In the Acheron team she's the hypercarry, the rest of the team basically does no damage, while the superbreak team, if enemies are broken the entire team deals massive damage.
YOO SAME (I have my Pela and welt at lvl 60 lmao while I min maxed my acheron to have raw 233 critdamage and 55 critrate while having a Natasha as sustain 💀 but I'm planning on getting my second team before I fully build both nihility)
@@monkeydspider8203 enemies like that is fine since there's still a window where we can hit them. But when they make the weakness unbreakable then it will be bad for every character not just break units and the only unit that can be use in that scenario is only 2 which is dhil and acheron since from what i saw only that 2 unit can brute force enemies.
Firefly is easier to build and have better dmg but really needs ruan mei and hmc to be broken (otherwise she's just "good") and once the enemy locked their weakness bar you can't do anything to them Acheron requires higher investment but is quite flexible with all f2p nihility support available (I personally prefer pela and silverwolf, can't wait for jiaoqiu tho) but without her lc it's really hard to gain stacks unless you invest your supports on spd. Not sure if lcless acheron also needs spd boost tho And yep I have both if them (acheron E0S1 firefly E0S0)
I honestly prefer using Acheron over Firefly, because I get the feeling that they are gonna add toughness break immunity enemies with some speed adjustment to out speed us in any end game content (MoC, PF, Etc...), just for the sake of to prevent any chance of super break, Acheron still deals big damage with her ultimate even when there are enemies that dont have lightning weakness.
it also apply to Acheron what if they released enemies with high resistance debuffs or immune to debuffs in overall we don’t know what type of enemies they release
@@silkyhood9024 sure that may happen, but she is still usuable even when if her dmg have been have been greatly reduce, whereas Firefly will only deal what her Atk stat she currently has, since her gimmick rely on super break, which she or her team has to break enemies toughness first to begin with.
Considering Break Gauge of the enemy is one of the main mechanics in combat of Honkai. Investing into superbreak/break dmg feels more like a futureproof instead on the a pure and raw DPS like DHIL and Acheron
Yea Acheron may need more supports that aren’t free but she makes it up on team flexibility and overall more opportunities to deal damage opposed to just when the enemy is weakness broken which may not even be available at times against some opponents.
@@user-ft1ru8jv1zprobably not since that is insanely luck based.To get crit and break aswell as spd? You need the best luck in the whole world for that
Also consider that the current mOC has the boss that takes extra damage break damage and upon break takes further enhanced damage. On the other hand, yes she is very consistent. Very good for any fire elite heavy stages because the small fry will get fire implanted.
I would say generally acheron because of her OP insta kill in overworld and SU and the fact that see can end fight quick without needing to worry about something like weakness immunity
True. My lucky ass got Acheron, Ruan and Fly now as an accident. I was intending to skip her cuz I have not materials. Guess gotta go to the mines to farm.
i need around 160 pulls for Ruan Mei, i was gonna give up to pull for Firefly cuz i only have 260 pulls, but somehow i could get E1S1 FF. and once the 2.3 drop, i used all the jades to pull her again, win the 50/50, now she s E2S1. best pull of my life.
Making enemies immune to break is affecting the whole game, not just break teams. We have been taught to match the weakness of the enemy to deal more damage to it and remove its toughness bar. This lies at the core of the game. Any unit is usually scrwed when enemies are immune to weaknesses. This is why there is only a window for it and ways to remove that state. A permanent immunity to weakness state would be terrible for any team.
@@phosyphos5192 not really, i run pela and guin(e0) and still hitting and can still very comfortably clear all content. for reference, moc auto clear 5 cycles, no 5 star lc and no dubes
I’d say the two are somewhat niche DPSes, while Firefly and her team all focus on breaking opponents toughness to deal tons of damage, Acheron’s team is mostly for stacking debuffs to get her ult up quicker for well, more damage The two both have their weaknesses but they still provide a good enough execution for their jobs
Just got the game 3weeks ago. I am blitzing through the content to get the full Firefly team, but I feel like if there’ll be one character I would truly dedicate to it’ll be Acheron, her playstyle, kit and story I love it all. I think she’ll be the only character I’d E6. Edit: YOOOOOOO I JUST GOT MY BEST 10 PULL IN OVER 2 YEARS OF GACHA!!!! 30 PITY, GOT FIREFLY, HER E1, AND E1 CLARA IN ONE 10 PULL!!!
ay bro i started when acheron came out and i got 10 five stars in a month dw bro ull get firefly easily, i lost my 50/50 and then still got acheron and her LC
If you really want to e6 Acheron, I'd say after getting Firefly's team, saved up for her since we are actually getting very close to Acheron rerun. I'll even say to skip Jiaoqiu even though he is very good with Acheron (assuming you're an f2p, if not then do as you see fit)
@@roxas5071 well it kinda helped me in th first two levels so acheron is not that bad in pure fiction is just that you have to have at least characters that help run acheron ultimate fast enough
Game is based on team comps not just a single character.. Break teams rely on super break but since it is granted to the whole team, each member could actually deal good dmg compared to other hyper carty teams..
The only reason i think that Acheron is better then Firefly is because even if the enemy can be weakness broken, there are then enemies who action advance the enemy so even if you do break them they just get their action advanced (looking at the dreamjolt troupe)
@@seb5708 yeah and there are a lot of ppl that dont have ruan mei, and even then what i said still applies as they can get action advanced after the second break
I’m just gonna say I have Acheron at s1 and have neither silver wolf nor sparkle. Though I can’t clear all endgame yet. For the things I can clear, Acheron does it so easily with welt sustain. My last slot is usually Ruan Mei cause imprisonment is such a strong break and can give you a whole cycle to yourself
If you are new to the game, get Acheron and not Firefly, sure you'll need another debuffer or someone else to apply DoTs but there's free options for that and it's not too bad, it's easy to mix her team up even if it's not optimal so you could have a nuke with Acheron that doesn't rely on breaks with everyone on the team being nigh invincible. Firefly's team is very much the team she is restricted to, maybe in the future if there's more wriggle room as more characters come out it'll be more recommendable but in the specific situations that are pretty common in this game her team faces uphill battles, 5 enemies or no weaknesses and suddenly you're dreading whatever's about to happen in that battle, also heavily relies on ultimates and break effect/SPD, Acheron's many potential teams are less restricted in that way so grinding can be less painful.
I have both, and honestly they are good in their own way. Acheron doesn't need to break enemy weakness to deal massive amount of damage, but on the other hand, focusing on breaking enemy's weaknesses is easier than build up stack for acheron.
The argument most people use to say that Acheron is better, is that "someday the devs might implement bosses that have no break bar". Kinda pathetic to base your decision on a big if. Firefly is a beast, Acheron is good.
Honestly both are great and even more great when placed in team together(coming from someone who tested them with each other in new simulation endgame mode) cuz turns out break Acheron is powerful alongside firefly destroying enemies toughness with ruan mei sig buff and her ult giving Acheron more stacks break enemy toughness by firefly and buff it up with ruan mei and harmony mc and you have two monstrous dps best dual dps I ever tryed
have both, cleared all content with both, acheron shined on the hardest content of the game (conondrum frckng 12), Firefly shined on divergent universe and apocalyptic shadow
In order to sell new characters, Hoyo will introduce new enemies that makes it harder for previous characters to deal with for example, New Bosses with unbreakable toughness bar (we already have) but worse in the future for break team.
with yhe direction the game is going, i think firefly may be better in the long run than acheron. theyre giving a lot of break support to dps like firefly and boothill (new relics, march is a rly good sub dps for break dps, and there are a few more break supports to come) it could be that firefly may outcreep acheron just due to the support rn, not to say that acheron will ever be bad ofc lol theyre both still broken dps and on par with one another imo
The thing is- they can both do great damage even if you don't have specific team comps. If you want the absolute best damage they can offer, then yes, you have to invest in expensive units like Ruan Mei or sparkle and silver wolf.
i have both acheron (e2) and firefly (e1). both are equally strong to me but in different scenarios tbh. it really depends on the enemies you face. however, firefly is a lot less flexible in team comps than acheron. firefly needs three very specific characters to draw out her full potential, whereas acheron has more wiggle room for characters to build around her. but break team comps are new in the meta, so perhaps we'll see some new break characters that work well with her in subsequent patches!
@@BlueSpiritFire1 he can’t heal. Also, las I checked there are still Nihility units that are worse than Harmonies for her (Sampo, Luka, etc.). Also, the joke is that to know his kit, he’d have to look at leaks which is against ToS and can get him a strike or get him kicked from the Creator Program.
@@abdurehmanmalik2980 Oh I didn't realise it was a joke, my bad. I've only heard that fox guy can heal as a Nihility. I don't know what Harmony characters have to do with this though? I was thinking that having a Nihility that can heal means you can fulfill her trace that scales off the amount of Nihility characters in the team without needing an Abundance sustain or something, allowing for more team flexibility.
I'll just say, one of them can kill all 3 trotters and the other can't.
That's on point 😂
One traffic light: You dare challenge me Emenator!?
@@thegamewoods8473both of them are F
that real fact
Damn true hahaahah
I feel like the superbreak team, not just firefly doing damage should be taken to account. In the Acheron team she's the hypercarry, the rest of the team basically does no damage, while the superbreak team, if enemies are broken the entire team deals massive damage.
That's true lol! Galla literally jumpscared me with a 80k super break
you can run acheron with kafka and black swan and have meaningful damage and synergy from all 3
@@Sonnetttin DU gallager deal 3 mil if you have full slot enemy and good break blessing and equation
@@Ben-ji2ln True, but then acheron lost some of her damage, not to mention they are even more premium units
Sub dps welt and pela be like:
Only thing Firefly can't kill is a fking Trotter 💀🗣️‼️
Fr once the trotter locks it’s weakness it’s joever
Lol real
And if you wonder
Yes , Yanxing can freeze enemies with his talent (soulsteel sync )
Read his kit and you will understand
@@masteradc7859 Yes but Biden also fell of his bike once
@@kelp8749 wait, only once?!
"Acheron needs Pela, and either Jiaoqiu, Silver Wolf or Sparkle"
Me using Welt as my 2nd Nihility for Acheron: 👀
YOO SAME (I have my Pela and welt at lvl 60 lmao while I min maxed my acheron to have raw 233 critdamage and 55 critrate while having a Natasha as sustain 💀 but I'm planning on getting my second team before I fully build both nihility)
@@edge9323 i Mean, the current team works. But I AM planning to get Silver Wolf if she reruns. Just because she works with a lot of teams.
Me with a lvl 70 gui 😮, but I have an E6 pela,
same
I run her with DOT lmao. Kafka and black Swan and she does perfect XDD
If the devs introduce enemies that can't be broken, they'll practically be killing the whole point of the game just to nerf two characters... 😭
@@monkeydspider8203 Yeah, but those are windows. I meant enemies that are always non-breakable
@@monkeydspider8203 enemies like that is fine since there's still a window where we can hit them. But when they make the weakness unbreakable then it will be bad for every character not just break units and the only unit that can be use in that scenario is only 2 which is dhil and acheron since from what i saw only that 2 unit can brute force enemies.
Tbh I don't think DOT teams are gonna suffer that much
Edit: forgot to add think 🤦
I think the latest echo boss from penacony is a glimpse of what's coming, multiple toughness bars 💀
@@primarina tbf firefly is fine for the Sunday boss since every weakness break means a shield
Funny trotter and funny traffic light, respectively
All I'm saying is firefly, harmony mc, boothill in divergent universe it broken af
I'm glad they added break focused blessings using Boothill RM and HMC was really fun
fr i cleared protocol six easily w ff
Ikr. My Boothill literally just One-shot Bosses
Divergent universe is made for break dps
Acheron practically skips DU
"if I can stop one heart from breaking" -> "how many hearts can I break"
Acheron is a absolute monster
My firefly did more then my acheron
(Both builded quite good)
Same I have e0s1 both and firefly literally does 2 to 3 times the damage per cycle
Firefly is easier to build and have better dmg but really needs ruan mei and hmc to be broken (otherwise she's just "good") and once the enemy locked their weakness bar you can't do anything to them
Acheron requires higher investment but is quite flexible with all f2p nihility support available (I personally prefer pela and silverwolf, can't wait for jiaoqiu tho) but without her lc it's really hard to gain stacks unless you invest your supports on spd. Not sure if lcless acheron also needs spd boost tho
And yep I have both if them (acheron E0S1 firefly E0S0)
@kailasnathks2168 maybe because this moc is literally designed to boost firefly's numbers so much
@@autfanduh, because the current MoC is Break meta and Break buff
I honestly prefer using Acheron over Firefly, because I get the feeling that they are gonna add toughness break immunity enemies with some speed adjustment to out speed us in any end game content (MoC, PF, Etc...), just for the sake of to prevent any chance of super break, Acheron still deals big damage with her ultimate even when there are enemies that dont have lightning weakness.
it also apply to Acheron what if they released enemies with high resistance debuffs or immune to debuffs in overall we don’t know what type of enemies they release
@@silkyhood9024 sure that may happen, but she is still usuable even when if her dmg have been have been greatly reduce, whereas Firefly will only deal what her Atk stat she currently has, since her gimmick rely on super break, which she or her team has to break enemies toughness first to begin with.
@@silkyhood9024they ain’t creating an enemy that completely counters a path lol. stop with those ridiculous speculations
True true... Ill make sure you kneal down Prime Trotter, someday..
Optimus prime trotter?
@@stacy7721Nah, Trotter Prime "Altars of Apostasy plays"
@@mihacimpric745 Chill with cooking the ideas bro ACT 4 hasn't even released yet
Firefly: shake…?
Acheron: shake
🤝
(Hard countered by a funny unit)
Considering Break Gauge of the enemy is one of the main mechanics in combat of Honkai. Investing into superbreak/break dmg feels more like a futureproof instead on the a pure and raw DPS like DHIL and Acheron
Acheron is never getting power creeped, especially with jiaqiu coming
Let’s come back to this comment in a year
@@Saryn.mind you, a year. Almost everything will be powercreeped by then.
@@SUPERsourbumxiangling will never be powercrept
@@Saryn. you sound like a year is only a short time lmao
@@oofie4660 give natlan some time..
Fire fly is more f2p friendly but Acharon can easily clear any difficulty with correct built even with E0.
Yea Acheron may need more supports that aren’t free but she makes it up on team flexibility and overall more opportunities to deal damage opposed to just when the enemy is weakness broken which may not even be available at times against some opponents.
firefly : no blessings
Break dmg : 250k
normal dmg : 10k 💀
Normal damage 5-8k
normal dmg 2k
Have any body build a crit FF that have good amont of Break dmg?.
@@user-ft1ru8jv1zprobably not since that is insanely luck based.To get crit and break aswell as spd? You need the best luck in the whole world for that
@@user-ft1ru8jv1z it won't work pretty well knowing FF have really low on both base atk and crit stats, like her trace node are mostly SPD and BE.
We love Acheron, no one will ever beat Acheron. Everyone else is merely an accessory to me
She didn't powercreep her she is for the second side of the moc
"You can tell, because of how many hearts she's broken"😭
Bro Jiaoqiu didn't even release yet how does acheron need him 💀💀💀
Only people who watch leaks know that Suske
@@ImAaronTV ohh the leaks, of course
He’s a healer nilhitly
@@roninhoang3273he does not heal
@@roninhoang3273thats old an leak he doesn't heal anymore.
Me who Owns both and just pulled for ruan mei as F2p 🗿🍷
Seeing everyone fight, while I have both, ruan mei and boothill is hilarious, while being f2p
@@tyreesenelson9159 YE LOL
@@tyreesenelson9159 SAAAAAME LOL
I have both ff and ruan mei too lol, and im f2p (i had extremely bad luck with ff but was also extremely lucky with RM)
@@Not_Flood 🤝
Also consider that the current mOC has the boss that takes extra damage break damage and upon break takes further enhanced damage.
On the other hand, yes she is very consistent. Very good for any fire elite heavy stages because the small fry will get fire implanted.
I would say generally acheron because of her OP insta kill in overworld and SU and the fact that see can end fight quick without needing to worry about something like weakness immunity
Meanwhile the blue dinosaur that started the mechanic: Break me or ur not doing damage be like :"."
Omg that thing is so annoying to kill. Only if u have firefly it's easier
@@stacy7721 You can maul him with ratio and serval
if only I hadn't lost my 50 50 for Firefly
kids choose, adults take all
it just a joke so dont take everything seriously
Fr
so real for that, my both meta waifu team
In my experience, Kids would actually take all if not controlled by adults to choose.. 😂
True. My lucky ass got Acheron, Ruan and Fly now as an accident. I was intending to skip her cuz I have not materials. Guess gotta go to the mines to farm.
Acheron works well with kafka and black swan too though
As a firefly main i can confirm that ruan mei is expensive 💀
Too expensive for my taste 😭😭
Just slap on S5 Meshing Cogs frfr
I got her in 10 draw after getting firefly 😂😂
Got her early after I got fire fly
i need around 160 pulls for Ruan Mei, i was gonna give up to pull for Firefly cuz i only have 260 pulls, but somehow i could get E1S1 FF. and once the 2.3 drop, i used all the jades to pull her again, win the 50/50, now she s E2S1. best pull of my life.
Making enemies immune to break is affecting the whole game, not just break teams. We have been taught to match the weakness of the enemy to deal more damage to it and remove its toughness bar. This lies at the core of the game. Any unit is usually scrwed when enemies are immune to weaknesses. This is why there is only a window for it and ways to remove that state. A permanent immunity to weakness state would be terrible for any team.
"Hearts she has broken"?
Me: dayum that was smooth 😅🔥
Firefly main: I worship you/ You're strong.
Me: Everyone gangsta until the enemies lock their weakness :))
Even after all their dmg they still have a hard counter, one is a traffic light with a shield and the other is a trotter about run
Im still sticking with Mommy acheron
Another point, one of acheron selling point is her technique
Sure, firefly’s is stronger in an actual fight tho
@@SoggySubFF is incomplete without her teammate, doing ass damages if you don't spend money on her.
.@@hdmaad.
Well the same can be said to acheron
@@phosyphos5192 not really, i run pela and guin(e0) and still hitting and can still very comfortably clear all content. for reference, moc auto clear 5 cycles, no 5 star lc and no dubes
@phosyphos5192 no it can't you only need her lc and pela and guinafen which are free units mine does 700k consistently
Laughs in E5 Acheron
I’d say the two are somewhat niche DPSes, while Firefly and her team all focus on breaking opponents toughness to deal tons of damage, Acheron’s team is mostly for stacking debuffs to get her ult up quicker for well, more damage
The two both have their weaknesses but they still provide a good enough execution for their jobs
Tell me this is satire.
Just got the game 3weeks ago. I am blitzing through the content to get the full Firefly team, but I feel like if there’ll be one character I would truly dedicate to it’ll be Acheron, her playstyle, kit and story I love it all. I think she’ll be the only character I’d E6.
Edit: YOOOOOOO I JUST GOT MY BEST 10 PULL IN OVER 2 YEARS OF GACHA!!!! 30 PITY, GOT FIREFLY, HER E1, AND E1 CLARA IN ONE 10 PULL!!!
ay bro i started when acheron came out and i got 10 five stars in a month dw bro ull get firefly easily, i lost my 50/50 and then still got acheron and her LC
@@syedhafiuddin7598 how much you spending bro
If you really want to e6 Acheron, I'd say after getting Firefly's team, saved up for her since we are actually getting very close to Acheron rerun. I'll even say to skip Jiaoqiu even though he is very good with Acheron (assuming you're an f2p, if not then do as you see fit)
Recommending a character that hasn't been released yet is crazy
After all, both of them cant destroy the traffic mob's shield
Well, to be fair to Acheron, her best support hasn't come out yet.
Both are actually pretty good together imo
she will never be able to power creep the loading screen 🗣🗣🗣
Firefly can give the enemies fire weakness. NO ENEMY IS SAFE. Code red: SHES SETTING THE SEAS ABLAZE
She indeed broke my heart for not coming home );
Both Broken in their own ways, so I think it should be called as equal
The comedic timing I cant
Why are people saying she cant kill trotters?FF literally has big ahh speed no way she can't kill a trotter in one round 💀
Laughs in space cowboy
Acheron have a literal skip battle button for non boss enemies that alone makes her the best character in HSR,
Firefly basically does too, it just takes a bit longer and hers works somewhat good on boss enemies.
the great thing is that you can use both acheron and ff and win every time (unless its pf)
@@bread2265finally someone who gets acheron is kinda mid in pf
@@roxas5071 well it kinda helped me in th first two levels so acheron is not that bad in pure fiction is just that you have to have at least characters that help run acheron ultimate fast enough
I just love it when I do missions and Acheron slashes enemies before they can even fight.
Firefly's floor is higher while acheron's ceiling is higher.
I lost my firefly 50/50 to my new mortal enemy. But I did get jade first try
Game is based on team comps not just a single character.. Break teams rely on super break but since it is granted to the whole team, each member could actually deal good dmg compared to other hyper carty teams..
Just run Acheron team one side and Firefly team on the other. Ez 36 stars
literaly what i did and this is so true
"Firefly or Acheron?"
My brother in Christ I have both
Acheron may have stolen our money but Firefly definitely stole our hearts 💕
The only reason i think that Acheron is better then Firefly is because even if the enemy can be weakness broken, there are then enemies who action advance the enemy so even if you do break them they just get their action advanced (looking at the dreamjolt troupe)
Thats why ruan mei ult keeps em down
@@seb5708 yeah and there are a lot of ppl that dont have ruan mei, and even then what i said still applies as they can get action advanced after the second break
If I could stop one heart from breaking
I’m just gonna say I have Acheron at s1 and have neither silver wolf nor sparkle. Though I can’t clear all endgame yet. For the things I can clear, Acheron does it so easily with welt sustain. My last slot is usually Ruan Mei cause imprisonment is such a strong break and can give you a whole cycle to yourself
Break lock Piggy appears
Firefly: Oh c'mon
If you are new to the game, get Acheron and not Firefly, sure you'll need another debuffer or someone else to apply DoTs but there's free options for that and it's not too bad, it's easy to mix her team up even if it's not optimal so you could have a nuke with Acheron that doesn't rely on breaks with everyone on the team being nigh invincible.
Firefly's team is very much the team she is restricted to, maybe in the future if there's more wriggle room as more characters come out it'll be more recommendable but in the specific situations that are pretty common in this game her team faces uphill battles, 5 enemies or no weaknesses and suddenly you're dreading whatever's about to happen in that battle, also heavily relies on ultimates and break effect/SPD, Acheron's many potential teams are less restricted in that way so grinding can be less painful.
Break immune, shield, magoret...
Aurumaton Gatekeepers: *laughs*
I have both, and honestly they are good in their own way. Acheron doesn't need to break enemy weakness to deal massive amount of damage, but on the other hand, focusing on breaking enemy's weaknesses is easier than build up stack for acheron.
hold up
acheron is basically a godmode unit for breaking (her ult weakens no matter what)
firefly does her damage mainly to broken enemies...
they actively try to work around acherons existence now because they realized they made her ridiculous so it’s Acheron 😊
Got both Firefly and Ruan Mei as a f2p in the same day was a blessing
Me having Ruan Mei on her first banner be like: yeah...idk if it's expensive 😅
The argument most people use to say that Acheron is better, is that "someday the devs might implement bosses that have no break bar". Kinda pathetic to base your decision on a big if. Firefly is a beast, Acheron is good.
Firefly, has her ult so fast it bearly matters
they both really break my wallet
Honestly both are great and even more great when placed in team together(coming from someone who tested them with each other in new simulation endgame mode) cuz turns out break Acheron is powerful alongside firefly destroying enemies toughness with ruan mei sig buff and her ult giving Acheron more stacks break enemy toughness by firefly and buff it up with ruan mei and harmony mc and you have two monstrous dps best dual dps I ever tryed
have both, cleared all content with both, acheron shined on the hardest content of the game (conondrum frckng 12), Firefly shined on divergent universe and apocalyptic shadow
Acheron is a beast idk how they will powercreep her
Short answer: No
Long answer: Noo
Does this man not know the nerfs they’ve done to our man Jiaoqiu? 😔
Firefly will only not able to kill enies when they have that immunity break
Got both of them gotta say firefly really is broken
I’ll just say, one of them can kill the traffic light while the other can’t
One is more versatile one is more specific
Firefly cant break my heart, fore i have no heart left to break.
you want to get technical, they go good with eachother
firefly thighs.
In order to sell new characters, Hoyo will introduce new enemies that makes it harder for previous characters to deal with for example, New Bosses with unbreakable toughness bar (we already have) but worse in the future for break team.
Unless that unit can one hit combo a traffic light, then they're the strongest
Firefly was my first 5 star that i pulled for and got! I adore her and her gameplay
Hoyo made Break damage the meta now because they Broke most of our wallets into super break damage to upgrade characters to their full potential.
the community need to stop comparing them lol, they both have their roles
Can confirm this guy has no idea what he’s talking about
Doesn't matter if you have both of them.. ❤❤
Now make a video ''Did Firefly power creep Boothill?"
So nice to have both.
with yhe direction the game is going, i think firefly may be better in the long run than acheron. theyre giving a lot of break support to dps like firefly and boothill (new relics, march is a rly good sub dps for break dps, and there are a few more break supports to come) it could be that firefly may outcreep acheron just due to the support rn, not to say that acheron will ever be bad ofc lol theyre both still broken dps and on par with one another imo
The thing is- they can both do great damage even if you don't have specific team comps. If you want the absolute best damage they can offer, then yes, you have to invest in expensive units like Ruan Mei or sparkle and silver wolf.
Im so glad i got Ruan Mei on accident back then i feel blessed
Just pair Acheron with FireMc with the Topaz lightcone and you'll get Ult stacks rapid fire.
i have both acheron (e2) and firefly (e1). both are equally strong to me but in different scenarios tbh. it really depends on the enemies you face.
however, firefly is a lot less flexible in team comps than acheron. firefly needs three very specific characters to draw out her full potential, whereas acheron has more wiggle room for characters to build around her. but break team comps are new in the meta, so perhaps we'll see some new break characters that work well with her in subsequent patches!
Broke: Firefly/Acheron
Woke: Boothill 🙏
Jiaoqiu, eh? HOW DO YOU KNOW??
I mean he's nihility, automatically means he'll have synergy with her. I know he can heal too, so nihility healer? He's made to work with Acheron.
@@BlueSpiritFire1 he can’t heal. Also, las I checked there are still Nihility units that are worse than Harmonies for her (Sampo, Luka, etc.).
Also, the joke is that to know his kit, he’d have to look at leaks which is against ToS and can get him a strike or get him kicked from the Creator Program.
@@abdurehmanmalik2980 Oh I didn't realise it was a joke, my bad. I've only heard that fox guy can heal as a Nihility.
I don't know what Harmony characters have to do with this though? I was thinking that having a Nihility that can heal means you can fulfill her trace that scales off the amount of Nihility characters in the team without needing an Abundance sustain or something, allowing for more team flexibility.