How To Build a Close Board FENCE Above a WALL
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- How to build a close board fence above a wall. Here I build an overlapped close board fence on a wall. Close board fence on a garden wall. Fence on a boundary wall.
In this video I take you with me on a recent fencing job where I had to design and build a fence above a garden wall. I show how I came up with a solution and walk you through the process.
I overcome the privacy issue by using a close board fence design, this achieves full privacy. The wall posed a challenge, but again, this was overcome with the use of 4x2 fence posts directly attached to the wall with the framing fence rails added to those.
The next challenge was the fact that the shared neighbours wall could not be used to attach fence posts, so I had to use 4x4 fence posts within the clients garden. I show this in the video. Not the neatest design but it is all I could do to overcome the fact of not being able to use the wall or the neighbours side.
Hopefully this video will show you the process of how to build a fence above and on top of a wall and may give you some ideas of your own on how to overcome certain problems.
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100 X 100 X 2400mm PRESSURE TREATED POSTS
100 X 50 X 1800mm PRESSURE TREATED CARCASSING TIMBER (Posts to wall)
75 X 38 X 3660mm PRESSURE TREATED RAILS
150 X 19 X 3660 PRESSURE TREATED SLATS (CUT TO SIZE)
67 X 47 X 3660mm PRESSURE TREATED CAPPING
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Overview of the Job Site
2:44 Jack Hammer and cementing posts
3:43 Showing the Framing and board cutting
5:22 Showing how to fit the Boards with a Jig
11:00 Fitting the Capping
13:29 Finished Fence overview
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From Across The Pond: Mr. B it is appreciated how you had explained the fence job. Well done. Love how the "view" of the landscape was kept reserved.🇺🇲
Thanks for the comment, I am glad it was of some help to you 👍
Mate your channel is mega, I've learned loads. Found it trying to learn how to build a fence. Keep it up mate.
Thanks Stephen, I am glad you find the channel helpful. I will be uploading more fencing videos in future, so please stay tuned 👍💪😃
@@Bacrenfencing Aye no worries, I've just bought a hoos, so I'm learning loads and planning on doing a lot of the work myself - I love the no BS chilled way you tell us the info 😁
@@stephenwaddell6801 Cheers Stephen, best of luck with the new Hoosie !
Another quality job Mr B. A well explained thought process which resulted in a neat unobtrusive finish.
Thanks James, yes, just a pity we could not have used the neighbours wall but then again, have to respect neighbours wishes. Turned out well in the end with what we had to work with. 👍😃
Lovely tidy job Sir ! 👍 I bet you were pleased with the finish yourself.👍 Nice to see when people carry out a proper professional job.
Thanks PB, Yes it turned out nice in the end and lovely weather too which was a bonus at this time of year. Hope you are keeping well ! 👍😃
@@Bacrenfencing all well thanks mate 👍
a good looking fence I think the cat come to inspect your work 😁
I think so too! 😂🐱👍
Top job mate 👍 That looks like one sturdy fence that will last a lifetime !
Cheers James and it wasn't raining for once ! 😋👍
Fantastic craftsmanship :) learn all sorts watching this channel 👍
Thanks for the kind comment, much appreciated and thanks for supporting my channel 👍😃
Nice work I’m going to get this for my front garden
Thanks and hope the job goes well for you 👍😎
Very nice job
Thanks David, much appreciated 👍😍
Hi Barry looks like a really nice job you have done there and like the spacing jig 👍
Thanks Rob, ahhh the spacing jig..........took hours to make that 😋 - How you liking the 7033 mitre saw stand ?
Have you had one before ?
I love mine ! 💪👍😃
@@Bacrenfencing the stand is great it’s been in use again this week we have been fitting a boat load of shaker skirting and architraves on a big job, I don’t know how I have managed without it. I was thinking that I could do with the dewalt table saw to fit on it so looking forward to your next prize giveaway 😉
@@robgormley1317 Ah, good to hear it is getting well used Rob. Lol, next giveaway will be soon hopefully..........will see how the subs go !
Nice job, looks like you had a decent couple of days weather to do it. 👍😄🔨📐
Cheers Gary, yes - a tropical 8 degrees in Newtonhill - Lovely ! 👍🌴🌞
Nice job but I have always gone on one fixing 25mm in to allow expansion and contraction in the boards with one fixing point, three for 4' and less and four for 6'
Screws to do the framing and ringed galvanising nails to pop the boards on at each fixing point.
But each to there own and methods as they say....
Keep up the good work, it's the results that keep the name 👍
Thanks Phil, I use different methods depending on each specific job. In this particular case I was using 19mm thick slats instead of feather edge boards. I have never experienced any issues fixing through 19mm boards. I use this method on "board on board" fences as well and never have an issue. The trouble with using one fixing is that it encourages "cupping" of the boards (In my experience), I have been to some jobs where your method was used and when the boards have dried out, they have cupped really badly but could have been down to the nails being driven in too far. Also, on this occasion I used screws because the nail gun tends to split the wood when fixing close to the edge. On standard fence installations, I will always use galvanised ringshank nails.
Don't get me wrong, I do use the method that you use at times (usually weather boarding) because there are some benefits like being able to replace slats / boards easily without having to dismantle the whole structure. In other words, you can remove the fastener and slip the board out.
As you correctly say, each to their own and if it works for you, then continue to do it. There are so many different opinions on construction methods of all types. I prefer to use my experience and do what works and has worked for me over the years.
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated !
Cracking and professional job Barry, I know you did some prep work back in your workshop, but how long did it take you from start to finish on the job site?
I have a little bit of fencing to put up myself and will be using your technique👍🏻 cheers man.
Thanks Davie, it took 2 days (from hourly perspective) but I was actually there 2.5 days because I can only work limited hours during the day due to having to drop daughter off at school in the mornings (wife busy with webex calls etc first thing, so I do the morning school run). In summary, it was a 2 day job, first day getting posts in and rails fitted, leave a day for the cement to cure 100% and then fit all boards and capping the next day. The boards are a little time consuming as they had to be individually cut to size.
Good luck with your fencing project and thanks again for the comment - much appreciated 👍😃
Great video, doing a similar project soon. On the posts you fixed to the back of the wall did also cement them into the ground? Or just fix with thunderbolts? Thanks in advance
Thanks, on this occasion I just fixed them to the wall but I do sometimes cement them in as well, it depends on the integrity of the wall and also how much of the posts you can actually get bolted to the wall. Good luck with your project 👍
Great job Barry. Looking to copy exactly this in my garden - love the look. It’s all one height like the far side of the wall in this video. I don’t have access to the rear side of the wall though for any timbers to the wall, how did you fix your framework to the wall? I don’t want any framework/posts showing ideally
Hi Lewis, on the far side (if you mean the left) I had to go into the neighbours garden and remove slats from their fence so I could get access to the back of the wall. If you have no access, then the only way to do it, would to install timbers to the front side of the wall or install actual fence posts, like I had to do on the right side. I hope this helps ?
@@Bacrenfencing Sorry mate my description was bad, by far side I mean the back wall, the longest one all on the level. I’ve got that sort of wall however no way to get posts in behind it, so it’ll have to be on the front as you say 👍🏼
@@LewisBurnell Either that or you could use bolt down fence post brackets which would fit on top of the wall, something like these amzn.to/3qoJwBS than fix the posts and rails but it really depends on how high the fence will be and also if it is exposed to a lot of wind. It is another option though .
Could you do a video on how to make the frame for the fence and how to fix it to the top of the walls please
Hi Phil, yes I will try to do that in the future mate...............struggling to find time for youtube at the moment, really busy with my day job but I will get back to posting soon. Thanks for the comment 👍
great attention to detail and lovely finish. what did you do to ensure the tops of your posts (along the back and right-hand side) are all level at the same height?
Thanks PJ, i initially used a laser level but it was hard to film as not showing up well on camera due to the sun. I did still have to cut a couple of the posts with the chainsaw as they were off slightly due to the wall not being 100% level..........I had to get the distance right so as to be able to do multiple repeat cuts on the boards. I ended up using a tape from the top of the wall to the top of the top rail to ensure the distance was the same (so in summary, the top of the fence follows the line of the wall and is not 100% level, but it is not noticeable)
Sometimes, fencing is best done by eye, if it looks right - then it usually is, if you know what I mean.
Thanks for the comment 👍😃
@@Bacrenfencing gotcha, good choice. I do hate those moments when you come across something which isn't plum/level and you have to decide, do I match the gradient of this feature or install my work level which would just visibly highlight the fact the other thing isn't level.
@@spammyjenkins87 Yes, it can be a pain, but in my experience always best to just do it by eye - usually works out best that way !
Nice work. I need to do this to stop the dog jumping over the short wall into next door so will have to use posts & concrete. Did you use 1 bag of post cement per post or 2 bags? (Or would you say twa bags? 🤣)
Between one and a half and TWA bags Peter ! Good luck with your install ! 👍😎
Hi Barry. Great job. I could not access the link to how you attached the posts to the wall?
Any chance you could link it for me here please?
Cheers
Thanks, I used the method in this video ruclips.net/video/OAA2QnHKI0c/видео.html
@@Bacrenfencing thank you. I'm presuming you did the same to the other side wall opposite to the shared wall?
Yes, but the other wall, I actually cemented the posts in place as seen in the video. cheers
@@Bacrenfencing yes I saw that. I don't remember you saying about the other side wall. It looked like you had but just wanted to check. Thank you👍
great video. i was wanting to build a small fence above a wall. the wall has those curved caps on them. if i attach the fence posts to the wall, shall i notch the fence post or chisel the capping?
Hi, If you are using thicker fence posts then you could notch them but if using 4x2 timbers like I did in this video, I would not notch them as it could weaken them and compromise their structural integrity. You could always chisel the capping, I have done that in the past. Best to use a grinder with a diamond disc to make lines in the concrete and then chisel it out by had or by using an SDS rotary hammer drill with a chisel attachment. I hope this helps and thanks for the comment 👍
@@Bacrenfencing Top man, appreciate it!
@@MrAas41 No probs !
Barry I've got a dilemma, I installed fencing panels above our short Victorian garden walls (secured posts to wall). Storm ciara had my wall down as the fence acted like a sail! 😔 we'd still really like a bit more privacy so I'm wondering if I could secure to the wall again but with lighter wood and hit and miss style with 25x34mm battens held up with treated CLS 38x63mm. What do you think?
Hard to comment on Barrie as I would really need to see it to be honest.
@@Bacrenfencing yes that's true. I'm thinking I'd rather be certain it's safe so I'm going to cement posts in the ground, with 19x38 treated battens across. I'll let you know how it goes 👍🏻
@@Smithb83 Probably a good move Barrie, if there is any doubt about the structural integrity of the wall, always best to cement into the ground mate !
should you not avoid having the screws going though both pieces of board - to allow for expansion and contraction of each board at their own differing rates and avoiding any splitting - just like you would do for cladding a shed for example? IE : Instead place a screw in the first board - then overlap the next board and place a screw that just goes through that board and so on and so forth. That way each board is fixed individually and free to expand and contract at its own rate.
Never had an issue with overlapping 19mm boards or feather edge boards in this way Hugh.
A shed is different, when using weatherboarding for a shed, it is tongue and groove so no need to screw or nail through two boards, the T&G holds them together, hence why you can get away with nailing single boards. 👍
@@Bacrenfencing I wasn't referring to T&G but to feather-board and regular board like you are using. This video may explain it better : ruclips.net/video/CX09PoDglEU/видео.html
@@hughhennessy7912 Fixing boards with one fixing in the centre like Robin shows there is a sure way to encourage cupping of the boards when they dry out. Added to that, you would be causing stress to the boards by fixing like that, especially with feather edge. I always fix through the boards and have never had an issue, but each to their own. I have seen that method used, but I am not a fan, especially on a fence.
Shouldn’t it face the street?will look naff for neighbours
The other side faces a horses field, there is no street and the horses did not mind.
The left side section has another fence in front of it, so not an issue.
The other side was discussed with the neighbour and they were fine with it.
I built it as requested by the client. Normal practice would be to have the good side facing the outwards but every situation is different. Thanks for the comment.
The awkward wall would have looked better with the fence all the way to the ground.
I advised the customer to do that, but he wanted it stepped to save on the cost of wood. Obviously had to do as requested. Thanks for the comment
@@Bacrenfencing I suspected that might have been the case