Hall effect joysticks ROG ALLY, installed, tested, and explained.

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @okestgamer
    @okestgamer  Год назад +5

    Links:
    OKestGamer discord:
    discord.gg/32S7kVF8qk
    HandheldDIY Hall effect link:
    www.handhelddiy.com/products/hall-joystick-for-rog-ally-1
    Onexplayer Hall effect link:
    Select "HALL"
    onexplayerstore.com/collections/accessories/products/copy-of-charger-for-onexplayer-3?variant=45135824355622
    Regular joysticks:
    www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005091086621.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.21.2c552d51M7BJg3&algo_pvid=2288ba4c-b847-4407-9ddc-3bd9d514de8b&algo_exp_id=2288ba4c-b847-4407-9ddc-3bd9d514de8b-10&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%218.94%215.82%21%21%21%21%21%40212248ba16875900992522252d0756%2112000031620509614%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=lcKFoFx1Xvzy

    • @TheSignOfJonah
      @TheSignOfJonah Год назад +2

      May i ask what is the benefit of HHall effect joysticks versus the ones that came with the ALLY? does it have more resistance than the orignaly ALLY sticks?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +2

      @@TheSignOfJonah so Hall effect sticks are not susceptible to the typical causes of joystick drift. Take joycons for an example. The sensors (potentiometer) get worn out or dirty (corroded sometimes), the Hall effect use magnets to detect input, so there isn’t a physical contact where a part wears down or gets dirty.

    • @TheSignOfJonah
      @TheSignOfJonah Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer Thank you, Also i am wondering if the ones you installed (Hall effect) will have more resistance when moving them. Unfortunately i like more resistance on the sticks similar to that of the PS5. I play better FPS games with that type of resistance. The ALLY moves too easy and has low resistance. Does The Hall Effect stick you installed have more resistance than the original ALLy sticks? Also the best material for magnetic shielding is any ferromagnetic metal. This includes materials that contain iron, nickel, or cobalt. A magnetic field can be reduced by bringing another magnetic field that is stronger close to the original magnetic field which will cancel out the first field. This is often called magnetic shielding and it basically creates a second magnetic field in the same location that conducts a stronger fluctuation. Copper is one of the most effective materials used in RF shields. While copper can be relatively expensive, it provides highly effective conduction, absorption and attenuation of incoming RF signals. However i will give you a link that has a sheild that has a Chemical Composition of 80% Nickel, 5 % Molybdenum and 15% Ironlook. Look at this example: www.reddit.com/r/peakdesign/comments/ts51if/shielding_the_everyday_case_for_s22_ultra_to_use/ .. Another example ruclips.net/video/oSwd0zd4rKQ/видео.html .. ruclips.net/video/2U1o66bs_Qg/видео.html .. After watching those videos you can see why in theory you can layer two or three sheets of this material over the magnet at U7102 ruclips.net/video/2U1o66bs_Qg/видео.html ,, then after that you can use this material to cover it very neatly www.amazon.com/MuMETAL-Magnetic-Shielding-Thick-Sheet/dp/B017ABFDP8/ref=sr_1_10?crid=16P5BJJOUGXPI&keywords=magnetic+shielding&qid=1687642876&refinements=p_72%3A1248921011&rnid=1248919011&s=industrial&sprefix=Magnetic+Shielding%2Cindustrial%2C77&sr=1-10#customerReviews .. Then after that you can use some extremely durable tape that will cure itself to the board with the additional heat from the device and is guranteed to hold in place the shield for the lifetime of the product. You're welcome friend :)

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      @@TheSignOfJonah appreciate the links. I’ll check them out. I have something coming Monday and if it fails I now have some other options. Thank you

    • @TheSignOfJonah
      @TheSignOfJonah Год назад +1

      @@okestgameryour welcome , I subscribed and hit the bell icon and I can’t wait to see your results.

  • @lordzwiebel1
    @lordzwiebel1 8 месяцев назад +13

    I love how the manual starts right at the beginning, the little summary of steps and that nearly 100% of the video is relevant.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback, I try to keep these types of videos moving quickly and having screens that can be paused on to get the info.

  • @toadfrommario943
    @toadfrommario943 6 месяцев назад +7

    Appreciate this video! My right joystick on my ally went out a couple months back and I haven’t been able to play it without a controller since then but I ordered the repair kit and followed the guide and now it’s back to normal! Earned a sub for sure

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  6 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was able to help you out man

  • @doolittle_
    @doolittle_ Год назад +22

    Seriously, your tutorials are awesome. Very detailed and specific. And the video for this was really slick. Your editing is improving by leaps and bounds.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +2

      Appreciate that man! Trying to get better on each one

  • @nickjacobsss
    @nickjacobsss Год назад +50

    Crazy how easy this is already. Device has only been out 2 weeks!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +11

      Little secret. I did this Day 1 😂

    • @reaperreaper5098
      @reaperreaper5098 Год назад +7

      The joysticks are off the shelf components, IIRC someone tore this an a OneXPlayer apart and found they’re using essentially the same modules.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +12

      @@reaperreaper5098 yeah that someone was me haha I posted it in a few places awhile back

    • @gloryholdofficial
      @gloryholdofficial Год назад +1

      Benefit of them using off the shelf bulk components

    • @jabbajawz
      @jabbajawz Год назад

      Maybe replace the left trigger with a non hall effect trigger and get the hall effect joystick working.

  • @pohalsted8847
    @pohalsted8847 Год назад +8

    Got to give some props to the easy assembly and disassembly of the ROG ALLY. I ordered one Hal joy for the right and I will keep the ALPS on the left. I will have a spare too. Perfect.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Yeah that should work as well. I managed to fix the interference issue with a small magnet added. I’ll be doing a part 2 video this next week

    • @pat.sambas
      @pat.sambas Год назад

      @@okestgamer Brilliant! Looking forward to watching your magnet solution.

    • @FaridRudiansyah
      @FaridRudiansyah Год назад +1

      ​@@okestgamercan you test it using RF/EMI/EMF tape? It's cheap. I don't think magnet should be counter with magnet.
      Anyway looking forward for next update. Thanks.

    • @stevenmonteiro3619
      @stevenmonteiro3619 Год назад

      @@okestgamer Are they uniform? as in I just order a unit from the link and they can go on any side?

  • @NickFje
    @NickFje Год назад +7

    Thank you for confirming these sticks are working. I have ordered 2 Hall effect assemblies trough your link.
    I feel much better about having hall effect because of their accuracy and they are so reliable.
    My 8bitdo ultimate with hall effect have 0.0% average error rate on both sticks while my other premium controllers that costs 3 times more are drifting and have terrible avg error rates. Just because of the unreliable potentiometers.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      No problem! Just make sure you watch the part that explains the interference. I will try to fix, but want to make sure people are aware

    • @NickFje
      @NickFje Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer I did see that, I still think it is worth a try anyway. Even if I need to increase the dead zone a little bit I don't need to worry about stick drift.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      @@NickFje ok perfect, just wanted to be sure you knew

  • @WheeledHamster
    @WheeledHamster Год назад +20

    Holy crap they didn't solder the damn joystick module to the board? This is a miracle.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +3

      Yup, very easy replacements. I’ll likely convert the video into a joystick replacement video for regular joysticks as well. Make a few tweaks so it lines up with the standard sticks better.

  • @poquepoque5851
    @poquepoque5851 Год назад +3

    It's a rainy day today, but okest's video is like sunshine ❤

  • @Gabilleta
    @Gabilleta Год назад +19

    I know ASUS doesn't have the best reputation as of late but I feel like with the release of the Ally, they have been more forthcoming than with other product releases. Hopefully a workaround is found for those who wish to change their joysticks

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Check my community post on my channel page. I found a workaround.

  • @swshredder1313
    @swshredder1313 Год назад +1

    I daily the Gulikit Zen pro wireless on my switch and PC, INSTANT purchase when I saw this for the Ally. Day and night difference with the sticks. Thank you for the guide!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No problem, I haven’t tested to see how much of a difference they make, but more seeing if we could in fact pull it off.

  • @SithHappens9567
    @SithHappens9567 11 месяцев назад +1

    This video is just what I was looking for. You earned yourself a subscriber sir! My left analog stick went out for the second time within 5 months it only works up and down. The first time I sent it in to be replaced but ended up waiting a month to get it back. This time I thought I’d try to fix it myself that way I can order some back ups just in case. I feel pretty confident in it now after watching your video.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  11 месяцев назад

      Glad to hear it man! I strongly advise at this time ordering the non Hall effect sticks. Some ally devices seem to not work well with hall effect

    • @SithHappens9567
      @SithHappens9567 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@okestgamer I ordered a couple the other day I don’t think they were Hall effect so hopefully everything goes smoothly. I appreciate it.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  11 месяцев назад

      @@SithHappens9567 yeah if you got the AliExpress ones they are not hall effect

    • @SithHappens9567
      @SithHappens9567 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@okestgamer I got the 2Pcs RKJX21224001 Switch Elements Joystick for WIN3 Handheld Gama I read on Reddit that they work there just taking forever to be delivered.

    • @SithHappens9567
      @SithHappens9567 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@okestgamer I ordered the 2Pcs RKJX21224001 Switch Elements Joystick for WIN3 Handheld Gama I read on Reddit that they work they are just taking awhile to be delivered.

  • @Dylan-et2yz
    @Dylan-et2yz Год назад +2

    You’re really good at giving instructions!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Thank you! It makes me happy to hear that, I’ve been trying to get better at it

  • @Madblaster6
    @Madblaster6 Год назад +3

    I was just looking this video last night!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I actually just posted it about 4 hours ago

  • @quattroconcept4
    @quattroconcept4 Год назад +5

    I think Gulikit would release a good pair of shielded sticks in the future like they did for the Deck.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Maybe they will, I guess we will have to see.

  • @derekgoff4328
    @derekgoff4328 8 месяцев назад +1

    This mod worked fine without tape for about 2 days, I’m noticing loss of range now since then and getting slightly worse. Almost couldn’t finish a test earlier today so I’ll be tearing it open again to add the conductive tape to help reduce the feedback. Honestly still worth the upgrade imo, the old sticks just like to drift all the time or get stuck. Mad annoying in windows mode

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  8 месяцев назад

      Glad it worked out for the most part for you. Other have had mixed results

  • @ahmedelboghdadi5328
    @ahmedelboghdadi5328 Год назад +2

    Awesome video as always! Definitely going into my arsenal of handheld consoles how to videos! Thx so much!

  • @micholiotti8889
    @micholiotti8889 Год назад +1

    I don't even have an Ally but I like these tech tips.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Glad you’re enjoying them man!

  • @yesacam
    @yesacam Год назад +2

    Hey OKestGamer, great tutorial dude!!!
    you know, I ordered the 2 hall effects from the onexplayer site you attached to the description, but it been more than 4 days and they still haven't ship to the US, my order is confirmed but it been some days and nothing. Do you know if this is normal on that webpage? how was your experience ordering those hall effect joysticks??
    thankss

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +2

      We checked with the rep from onexplayer and it seems like they are processing them. I guess they got flooded with orders after the video

  • @fwtxnobody4355
    @fwtxnobody4355 8 месяцев назад +1

    For the ppl who actually want to 100% fix it change the left stick with a regular joystick, it won’t make a difference since it’s not used for aiming, but changing that will give you full a rotation without changing the dead zone

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  8 месяцев назад

      It actually seems to vary by each ally. My third one (warranty exchanges) doesn't seem to work no matter what I try

  • @systom
    @systom Год назад +1

    Ordered a pair with the hopes you guys find a fix, big thanks!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Lettuce pray we find one

    • @systom
      @systom Год назад +2

      Even if not, the current workaround doesn't seem bad at all, which is ultimately why I pulled the trigger regardless. That, and, perhaps stock? Once more people see this.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah that’s fair. No idea what their stock situation looks like. I tried my best to find a few sources to sell the sticks, but no luck

    • @derekgoff4328
      @derekgoff4328 8 месяцев назад

      I thought about stock as well, atleast for the right stick only since that’s mostly aiming a gun & camera around in almost anything you play. We’ll see, I’m ordering conductive tape to finish this guys mod and see how it goes compared to nothing. HAS to be better than what I have now, wasn’t this had on initial install

  • @franzlaman
    @franzlaman 3 месяца назад +1

    As usual excellent video, I recently found my right joystick seems to float downward on its own, tried calibration but still occurs, do you think it’s a joystick problem or software

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  3 месяца назад

      This is probably the interference happening. I’ve been finding from some others that it tends to be random how it responds to the Hall effect. Random between devices I mean

  • @prodigy455
    @prodigy455 Год назад +1

    I just placed the order and I’m gonna work on isolating the issue. Along with me doing the 4tb install this will be my second mod and I’ll continue to mod as new parts or methods come about.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      That’s the nice part about having a community. You can brainstorm solutions

    • @prodigy455
      @prodigy455 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer absolutely, I bought it to mess with and I’ve always been that way and while it might not be everybody’s cup of tea , it does benefit some when workarounds come about.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Modding things is just a good time, so I totally understand

  • @davidcondit388
    @davidcondit388 Год назад +1

    What an amazing tutorial. I don't even have an Ally and I watched this lol.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Thank you! I try to keep them concise and to the point. Don’t want to waste people’s time.

  • @colororb4105
    @colororb4105 Год назад +7

    Asus said they could only use Hall sensors for the sticks OR the triggers. I wish they had picked the sticks instead of the triggers because those sticks' internals look very similar to Switch joysticks

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah that would have been the better option tbh

  • @mepm
    @mepm Год назад +1

    I wondered if the hall effect joysticks would interfere with the already installed hall effect triggers, thanks for confirming

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No problem, now we try to fix it. We have 2/3 of the job done. Found the sticks, found out they work, now tweak to make it better.

  • @hitbm4755
    @hitbm4755 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wanted to try in replacing my right joystick head, but I do not feel comfortable on pulling on the battery cables and there is no easy way to remove that plug-head otherwise. In addition, the screws on the joystick module is really small and requires a special screwdriver to remove.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes having good tools definitely is a must. I would suggest not diving into this one if not feeling too comfortable with it. I've found when I'm nervous about a mod I tend to make a mistake a little easier than when I'm comfortable

  • @bluenote7856
    @bluenote7856 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for the guide video and the website.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Not a problem, I do caution that you will need to experiment. Not all ally devices seem to respond the same.

  • @giuseppealagna4294
    @giuseppealagna4294 Год назад +1

    Perhaps using some magnetic shielding film applied on the bottom of the hall affect joystick

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      That’s my first plan. Hoping it blocks enough to make the interference a non issue.

  • @mrrasron1
    @mrrasron1 Год назад +1

    Now you got me wanting to try this, damn.

  • @ezg8448
    @ezg8448 Год назад +3

    Great Vid! Copper tape should also isolate the magnets if you have that handy.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      I have some coming on Monday. Let’s hope for the best

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer - Great! Can't wait for the follow up!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +4

      @@ezg8448 yeah man, let’s hope it’s a positive follow up

    • @krash3x
      @krash3x Год назад +1

      I’m just worried that something that conducive may inadvertently fry something.

    • @printsomething5093
      @printsomething5093 Год назад +1

      Yeah I believe a little bit of copper tape under the joystick would help interference and if you worried about it touching stuff, kapton tape on top of it

  • @thertc204
    @thertc204 Год назад +2

    Really happy to see someone has tried this out! I was disappointed when I heard that person from Asus reveal that you'd get interference with HAL effect sticks.

    • @mydingling
      @mydingling Год назад +1

      Honestly just sounded like an excuse when I heard that. Real reason: save production costs

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Let’s see if we can solve it!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      This was my assumption. That or the potential failure rate of the sticks

    • @thertc204
      @thertc204 Год назад +1

      @@mydingling well, of course. when creating something you can do anything, but you can't do everything. The R&D costs associated with developing and testing a solution that is not cost-prohibitive to mass manufacture were probably beyond what they felt would give them the profit margins they wanted on the price point they wanted to sell the device. That is, after all, how every product development on the planet goes.

    • @thertc204
      @thertc204 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer I've wondered if just putting some electrostatic tape on or around the joystick base would have any effect.

  • @KEN.KANEKl
    @KEN.KANEKl Месяц назад +2

    Very useful tuto !

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Месяц назад

      Thank you! Glad it was helpful

  • @Dumpster-J-
    @Dumpster-J- Год назад +1

    I didn't know it wouldn't boot with the screws in. I got it to boot after forcing it off and back on again without the screws. I'm fortunate my stock sticks don't have any drift. At least we know ASUS excuse was true about the interference. I really look forward to a solution as I miss the hall sticks on my ayaneo.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      I’m hoping I can fix it. We will see what happens soon.

  • @DylanTayag
    @DylanTayag Год назад +2

    I’m doing this immediately! How does the tension/resistance feel compared to the OEM modules??

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Feels the same as the stock ones

    • @dave3269
      @dave3269 Год назад

      @@okestgamer So unplayable :/

  • @cky90781
    @cky90781 Год назад +2

    Even if you just have the hall joystick on the right one only its still beneficial as FPS game player. That's whats making most of the fine movements anyway imo.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah that’s a good backup option. I’m stubborn though and want to have my cake and eat it too lol

  • @gamers-generation
    @gamers-generation Год назад +2

    Very OK guide, nice one!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Thanks man! Hoping I can solve the issue for the interference.

  • @ianozi24
    @ianozi24 Год назад +1

    I wonder if wrapping the back casing of joystick with little aluminium foil would help with resistance

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      There are a few other ways to add that type of resistance. You can add foam rings around the stick

  • @ThePsychoghost
    @ThePsychoghost Год назад +1

    Same thing with the ayn odin if you put hall sticks.. It has hall triggers as well. Asus didn't put hall sticks probably for this reason. It's a great replacement though.... Wish there was a block between the magnetic fields so there wasn't interference

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      The problem with the ally is that the sensor is directly behind the stick. It may not be an issue with the loki max

  • @Harusame94
    @Harusame94 11 месяцев назад +1

    ROG Ally owner here, why is hall sticks needed? Either way, I loved the attention to detail in this video, so its a like and sub from me.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your support. So the hall effect sticks don’t drift over time like the normal ones do. Unfortunately the interference causes issues as well. I did a part 2 where I fixed that, but it does not seem to work on all ally devices. I would hold off for now

  • @ControllerSupported
    @ControllerSupported Год назад +1

    Hey OKestGamer, so I just got the Gulikit King Kong 2 Pro.. which has both hall effect triggers and joysticks. On the left joystick (right if you are looking at the back of the board) there is a metal shield on the back of the board where the joystick is... I wonder if you do the same thing if it would take away the issues you're experiencing.. Anyway, look into it if you haven't already!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Thanks, I’ll take a look to see what it’s about.

  • @oyataceh
    @oyataceh Год назад +1

    easy to fix , seem good modular desain , thanks for desainer

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Yeah they seem like they made it easy to fix

  • @infin1ty850
    @infin1ty850 Год назад

    My left joystick is messed up, due to "no fault of my own" 😂, so this really helps. Trying to deal with CS on this device has been an absolute nightmare.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      You could buy the cheaper one on AliExpress and it should fix it. Then you don’t have to deal with the interference

    • @infin1ty850
      @infin1ty850 Год назад

      @@okestgamer my issue is actually that I believe something was bent. I go between a bunch of handheld devices and ended up finding this behind a couch cushion and ever since the left joystick forces the cursor to the left side of the screen. Vertical movement is fine, but horizontal is literally one-sided.

  • @pandabearmadness6263
    @pandabearmadness6263 Год назад +2

    I'm still on the fence on buying a protection plan for the rog . Best buy gives you 30 days after purchase to buy a plan. I feel with how early repairable the rog is that i mite not get it. I feel like i rarely ever have to use the protection plan but with rog not having standard joysticks that worries me. I'm just curious did you buy a protection plan for your rog

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      No, I rarely buy warranty. If your sticks break and you don’t want Hall effect, you can buy the same stick as the ally for like $6 on alliexpress. Install is the same as this video

    • @justinliechty7745
      @justinliechty7745 Год назад +1

      I got the warranty, reason being no good cases out right now. I know my luck.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      @@justinliechty7745 can’t hurt if you would use it. I tend to try fix my stuff because I’m stubborn

  • @dangerzone6481
    @dangerzone6481 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm only looking for the rubber pieces do you know where I can find some as replacements good video for when I do decide to upgrade the joysticks

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  3 месяца назад

      That I’m not sure, I think you would need to check with asus. They did have a site awhile back for spare parts, but cannot recall the link.

  • @LayerZeroDesign
    @LayerZeroDesign Год назад +1

    Maybe some kind of aluminized tape behind the trigger sensor? Idk maybe there is some kind of way to isolate them from each other.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Check my community update on my RUclips page. I managed to address the joystick interference. I’ll be doing a second video next week.

    • @LayerZeroDesign
      @LayerZeroDesign Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer yeah I saw you mention it in another comment right after I posted. I just ordered the hall sticks last night. Interested to see what your solution is. I'm trying to solve an issue I have. During gaming, my right trigger activates randomly even with my hand completely away from it. I thought maybe it was just sensitive and adjusted the trigger in armory crate but it was still happening. I haven't been able to nail down the cause 100% because it's sporadic but the most often way I was able to replicate the issue was when using both left and right joysticks and rolling them inwards towards each other (both pressed towards the screen). It's annoying but I already put my 2TB drive in it and changed out the thermal paste and got it all set up and tons of games downloaded and I don't feel like going through it all again so I'm trying to not have to return it for a replacement.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah that issue is pretty weird. If you adjust the beginning of the trigger higher and it’s still doing it, I’m not sure what’s up. Maybe the stick isn’t going all the way back up. They are Hall effect so it should only activate when the magnet gets closer

  • @davidfaustino4476
    @davidfaustino4476 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah these need a little sheilding tape under each joystick to stop interference through the PCB underneath.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah it seems to dampen the effect, but has not always shielded fully.

  • @crackpotscott
    @crackpotscott 6 месяцев назад +1

    So my question is if like me you're having issues with the left anolog left axis can i instead switch out the left anologe stick with an offical asus rox ally stick rather than the sticks you have used in order to help fix my issue. I'd rather not have the interface from the left trigger

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  6 месяцев назад

      Yes you can use alps sticks instead of hakk effect. The video can double as a joystick replacement guide

  • @sweetxstephanie
    @sweetxstephanie Год назад +1

    My left analog register only go up and down with the old ones, I want to know if these hall effects joysticks will fix this?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I would recommend getting the non Hall effect sticks linked in the description. The Hall effect seems to be hit or miss on working.

  • @pandabearmadness6263
    @pandabearmadness6263 Год назад +2

    When you can could please do a install video for the new heatsink on the ayaneo 2

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Definitely, I’m waiting for mine to come in. My luck isn’t great with Ayaneo parts arriving (just received my parts from December and they are the wrong colours lmao

  • @audaceus
    @audaceus Год назад +1

    Mr. Okest any chance you're going to do this mod with the win 4/win 4 pro?
    I've heard talk in reddit that these hall sticks are compatible with the win 4. Also come october, gdp is going to release their deadzone software.
    I'm probably gonna get the win 4 pro come Christmas sales and after review are out.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I am planning to, I’ve been a little behind on planned videos unfortunately, but I do know that they work. I would be curious how they work after the deadzone fix

  • @scarxerochannel
    @scarxerochannel 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is the left stick the only one that has the interference after installation

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  11 месяцев назад

      There have been some folks having issues with the right side as well. It seems to respond differently on some ally devices. I would suggest holding off unless you are wanting to experiment

  • @nyjay
    @nyjay Год назад

    How’s the stick resistance compared to stock? Coming from the Deck, I find the Ally’s sticks to be a bit loose for my liking. Also, how are you finding the fit of the stem to the cap? I heard the reason why some people are having clicking noises w the sticks is that the fit isn’t great w the stock thumb caps.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      The feel is pretty well identical to stock. I couldn’t tell any difference. Clicking could be the cap, but a simple press down should fix that if it was.

  • @TheTyisawesome
    @TheTyisawesome Год назад +1

    Exactly so when they said the triggers interfered with Hall effect sticks they were right. Hall effects triggers were the way to go! IMO Hall effect sticks are over rated because of the whole drift issue with the Switch. The joysticks are great stock and mine don't have any tracking issues. Testing using the same site

    • @TheTyisawesome
      @TheTyisawesome Год назад +1

      It's just not worth the interference and possible inaccuracies. Defeats the purpose of the reliability of the Hall sensor. I know it's early but I don't think the stock sticks are going to present any issues

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Hopefully not, that particular stick has a bad reputation on other handhelds which makes me worry

  • @adriannunoperera242
    @adriannunoperera242 7 месяцев назад +2

    What happen if i forget to disconnect the battery and change the sticks?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  7 месяцев назад

      Most likely there will be no issue, it's just safer to disconnect the battery when changing parts.

  • @rodrigogomezolmos6345
    @rodrigogomezolmos6345 Год назад +1

    Hi, good evening. I joined the group because I saw a video on RUclips where I have the same problem. I'm going to tell you, I live in Argentina and I bought an ally, the problem is that the right stick doesn't work sideways and I can't ask for a guarantee. Is there a solution so I can solve the problem? Please help

  • @pandabearmadness6263
    @pandabearmadness6263 Год назад +3

    I'm pretty disappointed in aokzoe i ordered 64 gig variant and it's delayed a month. Oddly enough I'm really loving my rog i was on the fence buying with the possibility of returning it but I'm definitely keeping it I like how user-friendly it is, i just hate the battery but I'm usually plugged in playing on the couch😅

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah the battery life is a little lacking. If you play plugged in and turbo, I might recommend setting a custom fan curve. It gets very warm with how relaxed they have the fan set at default.

    • @mynameishall8736
      @mynameishall8736 Год назад

      Cancel it.
      This message has been approved by a random youtube stranger.

  • @buckbuckgoose92
    @buckbuckgoose92 Год назад +1

    Are the joysticks stiffer or more resistive than the stock? The stock sticks are too loose feeling and make fps difficult

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      They have the same stiffness as the stock ones

    • @buckbuckgoose92
      @buckbuckgoose92 Год назад

      @@okestgamer but there are supposed to be no dead zones right?

  • @tommynguyen8430
    @tommynguyen8430 Год назад +1

    when I order hall effect they asked me "Please tell us your SN number to confirm your joystick version" which version is it to fit rog ally

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      You can let them know you need the onexplayer 2 Indiegogo version with Hall effect.

  • @TheRosanchez85
    @TheRosanchez85 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No problem, glad you enjoyed!

  • @justboredlol
    @justboredlol Год назад +1

    would changing my left joystick fix the left and right stick not working?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Are your joysticks having issues?

  • @TheTyisawesome
    @TheTyisawesome Год назад +1

    It's just not worth the interference and possible inaccuracies. Defeats the purpose of the reliability of the Hall sensor. I know it's early but I don't think the stock sticks are going to present any issues over the years

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Unfortunately these sticks have a bad history on other devices. If we can’t solve the interference, I definitely agree its best to stick with the stock ones.

  • @RedEyedJedi
    @RedEyedJedi 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm surprised that Asus doesn't make and sell these upgrades themselves as they have obviously gone to such lengths to make the rog ally easily upgraded.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  5 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately a lot of ally devices have a lot of interference with the triggers

  • @N54htmare
    @N54htmare Год назад +1

    Does it interfere with the triggers? I heard reason why they didn’t put hall effect joysticks is because it interferes with the Hall effect triggers

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I didn’t really notice anything. Even if there was, you could just calibrate them a small amount. If the fix works for the interference, it will help both ways of interference.

  • @xRevoEmaGx
    @xRevoEmaGx Год назад +1

    I noticed your Aokzoe dpad looked different mine, did u mod it by any chance?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I added a small Nintendo switch dpad cover on top of it with some double sided tape it actually helped it feel better.

    • @xRevoEmaGx
      @xRevoEmaGx Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer have to give that a go. I'm getting crazy repeating clicks if I hit the dpad wrong.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah it can’t hurt, I think skull and co sells them. It’s just a joycon dpad cover

  • @Bring_On_The_Bass
    @Bring_On_The_Bass 10 месяцев назад +2

    Mine came in with a film I have to sandwich between the joysticks and the board maybe to prevent interference

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah the ones from handheld diy come with it. It sometimes can help, but it’s hit or miss depending on the ally

  • @Steelninja77
    @Steelninja77 8 месяцев назад +1

    I will only do this IF i get stick drift down the line.But I am not that much of a hardcore gamer. I play games everyday but spread between my PC, my PCVR and my quest 3 headset standalone games and my ROG ally and my steam deck. So I don't think I will get stick drift but if I do I will do this mod. In fact i would probably replace it with the standard ones anyway if there is interference. Job done.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  8 месяцев назад +1

      That's fair, good news is this guide will work for regular swaps as well.

  • @rashaadadam3359
    @rashaadadam3359 Год назад

    I bought two of these and installed. The right stick works fine and there is no interference with the Hall effect trigger. Like the video the stick doesn’t quite reach the ends of the right circle but fixed this with the calibration tool in ASUS Armoury Crate. The left stick is a total no go for me. No matter what calibration setting I choose in Armoury Crate the trigger still interferes with the joystick . Also as an aside onexplayer for some unknown reason decided to declare my 30usd order for 109usd and I got charged handsomely by customs … a very expensive exercise and hope onexplayer can resolve this

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah that’s pretty odd, there is no reason for that high of a declaration. I would email them to ask what happened

  • @Canarious
    @Canarious Год назад +1

    Would a polyimide faraday tape sandwich work? putting it in between the joystick and trigger?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      I tried a number of things. The best solution is a small magnet I used to counter the other magnet. Worked out pretty well.

  • @SmallfryRie
    @SmallfryRie Год назад

    Hello. Thank you for the helpful video. I decided to order the Hall Effect sticks you have linked. However, OneXPlayer support is demanding I provide them with a serial number to clarify what sticks I need...I told them I wanted them for the Ally, but they are still asking for a serial number. I understand their sticks are supposed to be for their handhelds, but I'm at a lost. Did you have to go through this same thing and if so what did you reply to them with? Thanks in advance!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Tell them you need the Hall effect sticks from the onexplayer 2

  • @zackw7587
    @zackw7587 Год назад +1

    Does this solve any of the cap wobble issues people are having? Or is it still a cap molding issue, regardless of actual stick.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I actually haven’t experienced that. The sticks stems are identical, so if I had to guess, people’s sticks weren’t full pressed down in the stems

  • @brandonsummers6360
    @brandonsummers6360 Год назад +2

    The haptics might be the next problem 🤔 i feel like those are magnetic actuators and youd prob want to isolate them as well!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      That’s a good idea, although I would imagine they would interfere with the trigger ones as they are

  • @scramjones496
    @scramjones496 Год назад +1

    I just ordered a pair from your link. How is the tention? Is it less loose than the original ones on the Ally?

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU Год назад +1

    This is great, do they feel bit tighter to Hadley ?

  • @lamboricer3743
    @lamboricer3743 Год назад +2

    Hmm, you cant really block magnetic field but if you can find a way to redirect by a little this would work great.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +2

      I’m going to see if it helps out at all. Honestly at this point I’m just having fun experimenting

    • @lamboricer3743
      @lamboricer3743 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer yeah, I just placed an order. I'm really glad you tested this out. I kinda want try out to see if I can place mini mouse track pad on this next.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      That’s an interesting idea. I’m curious how that would work

  • @matrick94
    @matrick94 Год назад +1

    How do they feel?.. to me the stock joysticks are just way too light…

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      They are the exact same feel

  • @7NINER3
    @7NINER3 Год назад +1

    Great video thanks for making it. Question the price of these Hal Sticks on the OneXPlayer site is it for one or two of them? The site does not state that information Thanks

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      That I unfortunately don’t know. I had these sent for some device repair videos for my aokzoe. I borrowed them from that to test this out. My guess would be for each stick

    • @7NINER3
      @7NINER3 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer OK thanks for the heads up!

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No problem

  • @Shmack_
    @Shmack_ Год назад +1

    Isn’t there a reason they said they didn’t add these? Causes interference with trigger hall sensors or something??

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Yes, that’s what I was testing. Found sticks that work and found a way to make it work with some calibration. Next step will be to see if I can mitigate the interference

  • @MrAmazinj
    @MrAmazinj Год назад +2

    My problem is when we ultimately get Linux support ala Chimeraos or Halo Os
    Then we will have this Hall effect issue to deal with, not sure if we will have native dead zone calibration in Linux.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      Yeah that part I would not know much about. When I see Linux folks talking about fixes in discord servers, it just looks like they are solving all the world’s problems and I am just there nodding my head pretending to know what’s up lol.

  • @tobizockt4710
    @tobizockt4710 Год назад +1

    Sehr gut. Gibt es auch austauschbare Trigger Tasten? hätte gerne eine bessere Feder und hochwertigere Tasten.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      No replacements for the triggers that I know of.

    • @tobizockt4710
      @tobizockt4710 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer OK, thank you for your support 👍

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No problem

  • @DARK_BASS_LORD
    @DARK_BASS_LORD Год назад +1

    Whats the part number for the hall effect joysticks for those who want to buy elsewhere?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      All we know is it’s made by k-silver. If you can find an elsewhere please share, I’ve been trying for a couple of months

  • @jumbomrmeaner3016
    @jumbomrmeaner3016 Год назад +2

    Do these thumb sticks feel like the have more resistance? I’m not good with terminology but the stock ones feel loose unlike Xbox controller.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      They feel the exact same

    • @jumbomrmeaner3016
      @jumbomrmeaner3016 Год назад

      @@okestgamer thank you for responding. Yeesh. That’s the only struggle I really have with mine. I’ve had mine for four days and that’s pretty much all I dislike about it.

    • @jumbomrmeaner3016
      @jumbomrmeaner3016 Год назад

      @@okestgamer do you feel that there is hope for better quality sticks to come?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      @@jumbomrmeaner3016 working with another guy on a possible solution.

  • @TangerineAltoid
    @TangerineAltoid Год назад +1

    I have stick drift on the right stick. Would this also fix that?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      It might, sometimes it’s not the stick itself. I would suggest take the right and the left stick and swap them. If the issue then shows up on the left side, you’ll know it’s the stick.

  • @davidgallagher1674
    @davidgallagher1674 Год назад +1

    Talked me into it. I have ordered one for the right stick. I don't really care about the left

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I’ve reduced the interference by 65% so far for the left stick. Still working on it.
      Right stick is good to go so you should have a good experience

    • @mattp5518
      @mattp5518 20 дней назад

      How did you get the right stick good to go? Would love it to operate same as original but ill take it over stick drift any day​@@okestgamer

  • @InterGaming
    @InterGaming Год назад +1

    Do you know if the cap colors can be replaced if I just bought some different colored ones for Xbox one controller?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I tested a few caps and none had fit. I tested:
      -ps4
      -Xbox one
      -Ayaneo 2

  • @Nico617TBS
    @Nico617TBS Год назад +1

    Does the hall sticks have more resistance? I find the stock ones to be to soft

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      No they have the same resistance

  • @TB-nf6bs
    @TB-nf6bs Год назад +1

    Thank you for shareing jumped on that purchase. And will be awhile before I get them. Hopefully a way to mitigate the interference will be discovered before I get mine. Otherwise it will be another fun mod to mess with. One of the first things I did with the steamdeck was take the metal contacts that are in a xbox one dpad membrane and bend them to fit the posts under the dpad and the face buttons on the steamdeck. Its night and day. The button presses are extremmly solid and tactile now no mush. Will have to remove the mainboard on the ally to do the same thing although its alot more work steamdeck was easy to reach them.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Modding is always a good time..until it’s not when it gets botched lol. I’m hoping this mod works out and we have no interference.

    • @TB-nf6bs
      @TB-nf6bs Год назад +1

      ​@okestgamer Do you have any comments or concerns about the wifi chip and also the SD card slot being right underneath the heatpipes? I'm going to work on isolating a small area of those heat pipes where they are above those problem areas but I will not be able to do much if it's on the fin stack.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Honestly, I just adjusted the fan curve and it changed thing’s dramatically for the SD card slot at least. Now it feels perfectly normal and not close to burning.

  • @gijsveldman7458
    @gijsveldman7458 Год назад +1

    My joysticks for the ally make a really loud clicking noise, will it help if i were to replace the stick modules?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Most likely would. You can get the cheaper ones on AliExpress if you want to test it

  • @stoopydh4878
    @stoopydh4878 Год назад +1

    Maybe a bit of copper tape under the joystick will isolate it?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Similar solution I’m going to test this week

  • @ryulanda9399
    @ryulanda9399 Год назад +2

    Do these joysticks feel less loose than the OG sticks?

  • @aleksandrnesterenko
    @aleksandrnesterenko Год назад +1

    Is it possible to use bigger joystick cap? For example from Xbox controller? For me it looks too small... If yes, which one?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Just tested this today and no it will not fit. Too large

  • @soulsearch7383
    @soulsearch7383 Год назад

    Thanks for putting the part links. Have you found out what time of cap the joysticks use. Mine actually is starting to eat away the plastic were the joist I’m hits the LED wall. It’s like sandpaper eating away the joystick. I probably press to hard. Anyways. If you can find compatible caps that would be awesome.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I have not found one identical to it. You could use the caps that come with the Hall effect order, but they are smaller

  • @X862go
    @X862go Год назад +1

    wow good job!

  • @gloryholdofficial
    @gloryholdofficial Год назад +1

    I love you I have been looking everywhere for sticks my right one is super loose and pops when moving direct left to direct right and I would prefer to swap than get a whole new unit and risk another issue popping up since this is currently my only issue and I am very comfortable doing my own repairs I have done a full shell swap on my steam deck and this is child’s play in comparison

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah this is a very easy repair. You can grab 3 or 4 (a couple spares) and then change either only the right one, or jump right in like I did and adjust the deadzone until we find a solution.

  • @NateBuildingBricks
    @NateBuildingBricks Год назад +1

    I would like to know if those glasses are worth it for a steam deck owner. I've often thought about getting a set of these AR glasses for long flights. But I feel like they would strain my eyes. I'll be curious how they do if you have glasses because I have glasses. I'm not sure if you have one but I would love to know how these compare with the x real glasses.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      You might have commented on the wrong video of mine, did you mean the legion Go glasses?

    • @NateBuildingBricks
      @NateBuildingBricks Год назад

      @@okestgamer Oh yes it appears I did. Yes the Lesion Go glasses you mentioned in the news video you were looking for what folks wanted to know.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      You can actually get custom prescription lenses that slot into the legion glasses. I personally haven’t tried the prescription glasses, but on other comparable glasses they have worked well. I used a pair of nreal air on a 10 hour flight and didn’t seem to experience much eyes strain.

    • @NateBuildingBricks
      @NateBuildingBricks Год назад

      @@okestgamer Awesome. Do you still have the nreal to compare the experience with thee Lenovo ones?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      @@NateBuildingBricks I do yes. I’m planning to compare them soon. I am first going to finish my legion go and glasses review and then move on to some comparisons.

  • @AloneNoLife
    @AloneNoLife Год назад +1

    are the handhelddiy joysticks/thumbstick safe to get because i have seen some bad reviews on it?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      They are safe to get, just keep in mind that the hall effect joysticks are hit or miss on the ally. It seems like every ally responds a little differently

    • @AloneNoLife
      @AloneNoLife Год назад +1

      glad that you still replay to comment's but what are some effects that could happen? @@okestgamer

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      I try to keep up with what I can. RUclips doesn’t always flag comments for me. Some issues could be where a portion of the circle is just simple not recognized. Basically the interference is too strong

    • @SwitchingRooskies
      @SwitchingRooskies 10 месяцев назад +1

      I ordered from this site and both sticks responded poorly when I stalled on the right side of the Ally. Error of 17% and the stick wouldn't go all the way to the edge - even worse than what was seen in this video. I couldn't resolve that - so I reinstalled the original. Error of 5% on the original stick.

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  10 месяцев назад

      @@SwitchingRooskies sorry to hear that man, it seems like each ally device responds differently than each other. I had exchanged my ally and the second one worked as well. After that SD slot stopped working I got my third one which has had an issue similar to what you mentioned.

  • @Gideonrex1
    @Gideonrex1 Год назад

    You’re a godsend. I’ve had the ally for 2 weeks and my left analogue x axis just died randomly when I turned it on. Didn’t want to take it back bc I spent a lot of time customizing it. Good to know the stick replacement is relatively easy. No idea what a Hall effect joycon is, but eh

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      If you don’t know about the Hall effect ones I would suggest getting the ones in the AliExpress link instead. It will be the same as the ones your ally comes with

    • @Gideonrex1
      @Gideonrex1 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer I don’t think those are the official ones. I think the stock ones are ALPS RKJX21224001. But thank you, and I’ll bless you with this knowledge. Bios = power + volume down. Boot menu = power + volume up. WinRe = power + plug keyboard in and press and hold 12 before power until the menu comes up…it’s been a rough day with this device😑 device was bricked for a while and was thinking about just wiping and installing Linux at one point

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Yeah it can be janky. The usual bios methods including the ones you listed didn’t seem to register on mine, weird part is they used to.

    • @rodrigogomezolmos6345
      @rodrigogomezolmos6345 Год назад

      Hi, good evening. I joined the group because I saw a video on RUclips where I have the same problem. I'm going to tell you, I live in Argentina and I bought an ally, the problem is that the right stick doesn't work sideways and I can't ask for a guarantee. Is there a solution so I can solve the problem? Please help

    • @Gideonrex1
      @Gideonrex1 Год назад

      @@rodrigogomezolmos6345my replacement stick just came in today, I followed the steps in the video, and now it works 👍🏻

  • @TechPanduh
    @TechPanduh Год назад +1

    Nice tutorial 👍

  • @matthewbilton5842
    @matthewbilton5842 Год назад +1

    Big question right here, are the hall effect sticks stiffer than the ally ones? Because the ally ones are way to lose 😢

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад +1

      They feel the exact same

    • @matthewbilton5842
      @matthewbilton5842 Год назад

      @okestgamer another question for you, is the deadones on them tighter compared to the ally ones

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      The right stick I would say has a good deadzone. Left one has the interference messing with it. I solved most of it, but it’s not perfect

  • @johndale9578
    @johndale9578 Год назад +1

    I just got mine, but the right bumper does not work. Do you know of any ideas that could be wrong?

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Sounds like an issue with the tactile switch. Do you feel it clicking?

    • @johndale9578
      @johndale9578 Год назад +1

      @@okestgamer it feels the same as LB

    • @okestgamer
      @okestgamer  Год назад

      Sorry just saw your reply now. I’m guessing the tactile switch might be having an issue.