I have all of the staccato models except the XL. I have never had a failure and I am only using hoppe’s oil. I do not over oil my gun like most people say you have to and I don’t clean them as often as people say you need to. I have many other VERY popular manufacturers guns that I can’t say that about. I won’t even say the brands because it will break hearts and start a argument. All I can say is get a STEEL frame staccato P and put it up against anything in your safe. You won’t be disappointed and out of 45 or 50 pistols I probably have the one you are carrying and I can tell you if the shtf, I’m taking the P with me and over my other staccato’s also. The XC is my favorite, and it’s super reliable but I would grab the P for other reasons
@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual the fit to me is better. The recoil is less and they just feel better in the hand when racking the slide. To me they just shoot a little better. That’s why competitors prefer them over polymer or aluminum. The aluminum staccato’s are very nice also and easier to carry when it comes to weight. However, in the winter time with the right holster and belt the steel frame is just as easy to me. The steel will outlast the aluminum also. It’s just a different feel and I prefer it. The P is the only one you can get either aluminum or steel in. Get the steel. Save the aluminum for the CS or C2 bc they only come in that and they are great as well
I have been carrying a Staccato P Gen 2 for abou 3 years now. It is my EDC. I carry it at the 4 o'clock position with an IWB holster by Tucker Gunleatrher. I prefer their Deep Carry II for any carry gun. I live in South Florida and wear t-shirts and shorts daily. My gun does not print. I am 6'1" with a 32 waist. The way my shirts hang on me the Staccato P disappears.
I always buy 124gr. I prefer Federal Syntech or any of the CleanFire rounds from CCI. Keeps the gun super clean and running like a top. When I do drills it is not uncommon for me to shoot 500 to 700 rounds in a few hours. For competition, no question Federal Syntech 150gr. So fast and flat shooting.
Are you not holstering this gun? I have less than 10,000 through mine and there is deff lots of holster wear, the metal Magwell flare is almost raw metal on the inside now. You have to be babying it and never holstering it. Also i have had plenty of failures
This is my range gun, when I'm doing drills it sees plenty of holstering and unholstering. I also have another Staccato P that is my daily carry for the last 3 years. I have other videos on here showing them and the lack of wear. All of my Staccato Ps are Gen2. I had several Gen1s a while back that I sold. I prefer the Gen2. Somewhere around Gen2, Staccato started doing all their DLC finishing in house. Like anything else there are good DLC finishing jobs, and crap finishing jobs. Staccato simply does the best DLC work I have seen. Hands down, no question. Even my daily carry barely has wear on the high points. There is no way to looks like a gun that has been carried down my pants daily in South Florida for 3 years. Talk about hostile environments :) Best, Jason
I have both and yes the CS is smaller and will carry easier especially for appendix, HOWEVER, that’s still a big gun for carrying appendix. I personally prefer to carry my C2 over the CS. I’m more confident with it, it draws better TO ME, and I just like it. The CS does feel better in my hand and the grip is better but the C2 grip isn’t bad. The CS is built better in many ways with its updates, it just is, plenty of videos on that. Nevertheless, I still like carrying the C2 more. I will actually carry the XC and P as well occasionally. I use OWB T. Rex iron side holsters
I run Wilson Combat Universal gun oil/lube on all my pistols. It is as good or better than the 100% Synthetic Diesel Motor oil I previously and still use. For rifles I run a the heavy Wilson Black Grease. I run ALL MY GUNS VERY WET!
Some Details? What ammo? Staccato P Steel Frame? Aluminum frame? I have over a dozen 1911s and 11 2011s in 9mm, and have put well over 200,000 rounds through them combined and never had a barrel link break. Now that I think about it, I have had nothing break on any of them. I believe you, just wondering details.
@@backuptacticalI have an aluminum p limited and I’m curious how many rounds I will be able to get out of her round about. I hear aluminum frames aren’t as solid but there’s many high dollar 1911 manufacturers that use aluminum for their frames so I’m curious just how true that is that aluminum is going to break at 20k lol
@@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 I WISH I had an answer for you. Aluminum Alloys are more than likely than steel to break and not last as long. That said, if the part does not have a lot of stress on it, it can last forever. My guess is that aluminum frame will last longer than you will Unless you shoot 50K rounds a year. At some point, even the steel will fail. I will find out. I'm pushing 50K rounds on my steel P. I will shoot 50K rounds a year through it until I die or it dies, Whichever comes first. I'm above 55K myself :)
@@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919I love my steel frame staccato’s a little more than my aluminum ones (steel xc, p--aluminum cs, c2). That said, I can’t answer your question but think of the beretta M9. The original military trials took one of the test pistols with an aluminum frame to 68,000 rounds without any significant issues. That may tell you something and I would put the staccato above that. Just maintain it properly and it will outlast you. If you can afford enough ammo to destroy it then you have enough money to buy another one. Also, try a steel frame one, I think you may really like it. I have never shot an aluminum P but I chose the steel frame and the way it feels makes me think I made the right choice, at least for me. Put it this way, I just enjoy shooting them more than the aluminum ones and I don’t seem to get fatigued as quickly, plus while I can shoot just as accurately with the aluminum ones, it takes more focus and control to do it.
Truth is it is all about the lAck of recoil and the trigger. The Staccato P has an excellent Single Action Trigger. A Striker Fired trigger could never compared in terms of speed, accuracy and keeping the gun on target in between shots. My 5 string rapid fire groups are 2 to 3 times the size with the Glock ever time at any distance.
They definitely make things a bit easier for the shooter but you’re right about diminishing returns. Say the Glock is $500 and the 2011 is $2500. The difference in price would allow you to buy 8k rounds of 9mm at current pricing. I’m willing to bet (especially for a new shooter) those 8k rounds will do you a lot more good than a brand new 2011 with no rounds down range.
It's diminishing returns to a certain point. Truth is that staccatos are really just the baseline of 2011s. When you get to the really quality 2011s like Atlas, Trinity, Nighthawk, Infinity that's when you get diminishing returns. These guns are not meant for average joes, they're meant for competition shooters who have their skills at the max already which that extra $1-2k upgrade does make a difference for them. But by your logic what can a Glock 19 do that firearms like the CZ P01, MP shield, Caniks that are not only CHEAPER but also have significantly better ergonomics, trigger, and sights can't do? Glock reliability is a moot point. We're in the gold age of firearms. There's no reason why you would find an unreliable gun
then why hes the guy from warrior poet society crying about these guns breaking down after a 1000 rounds at his trainings...he says a glock would never break down that like that...
He probably hasn't run a 2011 in a decade. Early on the magazines were troublesome, but once the mags were worked out about 10 years ago, these guns run without incident.
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Great video! Respect
Thanks!
Keep up the good work!
I got like 2,600 rounds through my CS, not one failure. Not one. Amazing.
I wouldn't expect any more in the future either :)
@@backuptactical Same. lol.. Its worth the money. For some it's not. Oh well.
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I have all of the staccato models except the XL. I have never had a failure and I am only using hoppe’s oil. I do not over oil my gun like most people say you have to and I don’t clean them as often as people say you need to. I have many other VERY popular manufacturers guns that I can’t say that about. I won’t even say the brands because it will break hearts and start a argument. All I can say is get a STEEL frame staccato P and put it up against anything in your safe. You won’t be disappointed and out of 45 or 50 pistols I probably have the one you are carrying and I can tell you if the shtf, I’m taking the P with me and over my other staccato’s also. The XC is my favorite, and it’s super reliable but I would grab the P for other reasons
Exactly what he said!
Why steel?
@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual the fit to me is better. The recoil is less and they just feel better in the hand when racking the slide. To me they just shoot a little better. That’s why competitors prefer them over polymer or aluminum. The aluminum staccato’s are very nice also and easier to carry when it comes to weight. However, in the winter time with the right holster and belt the steel frame is just as easy to me. The steel will outlast the aluminum also. It’s just a different feel and I prefer it. The P is the only one you can get either aluminum or steel in. Get the steel. Save the aluminum for the CS or C2 bc they only come in that and they are great as well
@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual Less recoil. In my experience the aluminum framed Staccatos have noticeably more recoil than their steel framed counterparts.
@@Colonel1Bravo nice. Ok. I just ordered a steel frame. Glad I saw this beforehand lol
Hi Jason just wanted to know if you edc this pistol and in which position? Do you know if the ironside or 4 o’clock position would print a lot?
I have been carrying a Staccato P Gen 2 for abou 3 years now. It is my EDC. I carry it at the 4 o'clock position with an IWB holster by Tucker Gunleatrher. I prefer their Deep Carry II for any carry gun.
I live in South Florida and wear t-shirts and shorts daily. My gun does not print. I am 6'1" with a 32 waist. The way my shirts hang on me the Staccato P disappears.
What grain ammo do you primarily shoot in your P? Competition ammo suggestion?
I always buy 124gr. I prefer Federal Syntech or any of the CleanFire rounds from CCI. Keeps the gun super clean and running like a top. When I do drills it is not uncommon for me to shoot 500 to 700 rounds in a few hours.
For competition, no question Federal Syntech 150gr. So fast and flat shooting.
May I ask what IEB and or OWB holster are you running?? Thanks
I mean IWB
Yes I use a Tucker Gunleather Deep Carry II IWB holster.
Nice. Who did your porting and does it make a big difference?
Nevermind I finished the video. Thank you!
DSC Gunworks. It cuts recoil in half.
What magwell is on the first P?
All have the Dawson Precision Magwell. It is the only magwell that will fit all Gens of magazine baseplates.
Are you not holstering this gun? I have less than 10,000 through mine and there is deff lots of holster wear, the metal Magwell flare is almost raw metal on the inside now. You have to be babying it and never holstering it. Also i have had plenty of failures
This is my range gun, when I'm doing drills it sees plenty of holstering and unholstering. I also have another Staccato P that is my daily carry for the last 3 years. I have other videos on here showing them and the lack of wear. All of my Staccato Ps are Gen2. I had several Gen1s a while back that I sold. I prefer the Gen2. Somewhere around Gen2, Staccato started doing all their DLC finishing in house. Like anything else there are good DLC finishing jobs, and crap finishing jobs. Staccato simply does the best DLC work I have seen. Hands down, no question. Even my daily carry barely has wear on the high points. There is no way to looks like a gun that has been carried down my pants daily in South Florida for 3 years. Talk about hostile environments :) Best, Jason
Could somebody please tell me wich one is better carry , majority say c2 and some say cs ?
That’s up to you.
Wilison Combat SFX9 isi better than those 2 due to the thin grip
I have both and yes the CS is smaller and will carry easier especially for appendix, HOWEVER, that’s still a big gun for carrying appendix. I personally prefer to carry my C2 over the CS. I’m more confident with it, it draws better TO ME, and I just like it. The CS does feel better in my hand and the grip is better but the C2 grip isn’t bad. The CS is built better in many ways with its updates, it just is, plenty of videos on that. Nevertheless, I still like carrying the C2 more. I will actually carry the XC and P as well occasionally. I use OWB T. Rex iron side holsters
what lube are you running?
I run Wilson Combat Universal gun oil/lube on all my pistols. It is as good or better than the 100% Synthetic Diesel Motor oil I previously and still use. For rifles I run a the heavy Wilson Black Grease. I run ALL MY GUNS VERY WET!
My barrel link gave up on 3 thousand rounds :(
Some Details? What ammo? Staccato P Steel Frame? Aluminum frame?
I have over a dozen 1911s and 11 2011s in 9mm, and have put well over 200,000 rounds through them combined and never had a barrel link break. Now that I think about it, I have had nothing break on any of them. I believe you, just wondering details.
@@backuptacticalI have an aluminum p limited and I’m curious how many rounds I will be able to get out of her round about. I hear aluminum frames aren’t as solid but there’s many high dollar 1911 manufacturers that use aluminum for their frames so I’m curious just how true that is that aluminum is going to break at 20k lol
@@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 I WISH I had an answer for you. Aluminum Alloys are more than likely than steel to break and not last as long. That said, if the part does not have a lot of stress on it, it can last forever. My guess is that aluminum frame will last longer than you will Unless you shoot 50K rounds a year. At some point, even the steel will fail. I will find out. I'm pushing 50K rounds on my steel P. I will shoot 50K rounds a year through it until I die or it dies, Whichever comes first. I'm above 55K myself :)
@@backuptactical hahah bro ur awesome 👏 thanks for that reply my man and very fast at that! You just gained a sub 😂
@@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919I love my steel frame staccato’s a little more than my aluminum ones (steel xc, p--aluminum cs, c2). That said, I can’t answer your question but think of the beretta M9. The original military trials took one of the test pistols with an aluminum frame to 68,000 rounds without any significant issues. That may tell you something and I would put the staccato above that. Just maintain it properly and it will outlast you. If you can afford enough ammo to destroy it then you have enough money to buy another one. Also, try a steel frame one, I think you may really like it. I have never shot an aluminum P but I chose the steel frame and the way it feels makes me think I made the right choice, at least for me. Put it this way, I just enjoy shooting them more than the aluminum ones and I don’t seem to get fatigued as quickly, plus while I can shoot just as accurately with the aluminum ones, it takes more focus and control to do it.
❤ them P.
What will this gun do that a glock 19 won't? So much money for diminishing returns.
Truth is it is all about the lAck of recoil and the trigger. The Staccato P has an excellent Single Action Trigger. A Striker Fired trigger could never compared in terms of speed, accuracy and keeping the gun on target in between shots. My 5 string rapid fire groups are 2 to 3 times the size with the Glock ever time at any distance.
They definitely make things a bit easier for the shooter but you’re right about diminishing returns. Say the Glock is $500 and the 2011 is $2500. The difference in price would allow you to buy 8k rounds of 9mm at current pricing. I’m willing to bet (especially for a new shooter) those 8k rounds will do you a lot more good than a brand new 2011 with no rounds down range.
It's diminishing returns to a certain point. Truth is that staccatos are really just the baseline of 2011s. When you get to the really quality 2011s like Atlas, Trinity, Nighthawk, Infinity that's when you get diminishing returns. These guns are not meant for average joes, they're meant for competition shooters who have their skills at the max already which that extra $1-2k upgrade does make a difference for them.
But by your logic what can a Glock 19 do that firearms like the CZ P01, MP shield, Caniks that are not only CHEAPER but also have significantly better ergonomics, trigger, and sights can't do? Glock reliability is a moot point. We're in the gold age of firearms. There's no reason why you would find an unreliable gun
A Toyota Corolla will get me to work the same as a Lexus RC-F, I choose the Lexus.
@@Rubeless ridiculous analogy
then why hes the guy from warrior poet society crying about these guns breaking down after a 1000 rounds at his trainings...he says a glock would never break down that like that...
He probably hasn't run a 2011 in a decade. Early on the magazines were troublesome, but once the mags were worked out about 10 years ago, these guns run without incident.