White South Africa votes in 1992 referendum (25 years ago)
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- 17 March marks the 25th anniversary of the commemoration of one of South Africa's historic days, where white South Africans voted "Yes" to allow the NP government to continue negotiations with the ANC in a process of dismantling apartheid.
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Apartheid South Africa was such a bizarre society. You look at images like these, and it looks like a scene from Europe, or America. But then you remember that these people - the ones who held all the political power at that time - were less than 10% of the total population.
You should make a video on it! In those times whites were closer to 20% of the population, but still it's pretty strange to look at this. Even today some parts of cities remain mostly white, though it has been changing. That society was interesting in other ways too, even among the white minority there was the Afrikaner-English divide, which didn't like each other a lot of the time. The Afrikaners were a slight majority so they pretty much ran things, as you can see on the Dutch-looking flag and Afrikaner-centric anthem of the time. And their international isolation led to other interesting things, like secretly developing nuclear weapons (probably working with Israel), and then getting rid of them because they didn't trust the post-apartheid government with them.
It worked though, south Africa is just bandit country in comparison now... complete mess
@@nickmagee-brown739 I can see why one might think that, but if it had really "worked", the standard of living for everyone would have risen such that there wouldn't be rampant poverty and violence in it's wake. That is the objective of western capitalist societies, stability through self interest with everyone having a stake in it, responsible for and owning their own success. There was no shortage of resources there. Apartheid only improved things for some, and not enough for the majority, so no, it didn't "work". It just controlled people by oppressing them, and it's left terrible psychological scars that South Africans are still paying for.
@Korucuk kataloški broj according to who!? You!?
@@themudpit621
How exactly do you "oppress" some one (a majority, no less) if you hand them their freedom on a silver platter and embroiden it with gold lacings and fill it up with the fat of the land.
The Afrikaner people was also "oppressed" by the mighty British Empire while the world looked on. Along with each and every other indigenous nation in Southern Africa, including the mighty Zulu nation.
The Afrikaner nation did not subdue or subject one single tribe or nation in South Africa. All these nations were all subjugated with brute force by the British Empire and forcefully amalgamated into one undesirable "Union" against their will.
This "Union" was equally hated by white and blacks alike but became desirable after the British left for convenience sake.
It was the Afrikaner who cast off the yoke of the British Empire and declared their freedom.
The first thing that the "Apartheid" Government did after they claimed their freedom, was to DECLARE FREEDOM for each and every other indigenous black nation and tribe that was subjugated by the British and began to dismantle the British concoction of the "Union of South Africa", the little "empire within and EMPIRE" which the British created.
Not only did the "Apartheid Government" grant these nations freedom, they also
spent Trillions of ZAR currency in uplifting these peoples to "lead them to independence" building them infrastructure, industries and giving them back their land and their dignity (which the British took from them).
So, how exactly is that "oppressing them"..!!!??
No one in history ever did the same for the Afrikaner people..! No one ever declared freedom for the Afrikaner in the same way which the Afrikaner did for every nation and tribe "oppressed" by the British Empire.
And no one ever did what the Afrikaner did to uplift these peoples in "leading them to independence".
What did the British do for Swaziland and Lesotho when they handed them their freedom and independence? Did they spent a single Pence to help them stand on their own feet (like the Afrikaner did to the other nations they liberated from the British)????
Before you make sweeping statements, please find out first whether it has any truth in it!
Mandela's successors have failed his dream, such a shame,
vali68 chrysler the mistake you guys always make is to lump people together
@@sandilemasemola6593 South Africa is falling to pieces. And has been for a long time now. Looks like it could be too far gone now.
@@sandilemasemola6593 the funny part your 'you guys' response does exactly that, lump ppl together lel :)
Ikr
Mandela himself failed the black people of SA.
Odds are that the people who voted yes in hindsight would now vote no.
Yeah they voted to die
10% of the population would have never held power forever to think so is absolutely delusional
Seeing what happened I wouldn't have bothered voting. Then & there would have packed my bags and left instead of having to leave decades later anyway. The ship was sinking then, the water was up to the portholes. Now all you can see is the mast flying the new SA flag, port & starboard lights went out a long time ago.
So just keep Apartheid?
@@GTA5Player1yes
2017 - Jacob Zuma calls for confiscation of white land without compensation
Well done Jacob.
Starvation for South Africa! w00t just like Zimbabwe.
Plutonius X why are you people so obsessed with Zimbabwe? Like it's the only country in the world that's having economic problems or something. You're living in the past. Mugabe beat you, move on. I'm sorry to have to inform you but people aren't starving in Zimbabwe, that's just wishful thinking on your part: ruclips.net/video/25ote6Ig07I_/видео.htmlZimbabwe_2017_bumper_harvest
There are still whites in Zimbabwe and they are doing fine, nobody bothers them: ruclips.net/video/KRdXNJV50mI_/видео.htmlwhite_people_in_Zimbabwe
ruclips.net/video/xO-DLl11xWs_/видео.htmlwhites_in_Zimbabwe_shopping_mall
Mugabe didn`t beat me at all and I thankfully never have or never will live in Africa. Plenty of Africans are starving in Zimbabwe and the only preventing even worse starvation is tons of foreign agricultural aid into Africa.
Nobody bothers the white in Zimbabwe? Do you honestly believe such Mugabe propaganda? Whites have been beat up and threatened for decades, perhaps that is the reason there is less than 500 white owned farms left in the former breadbasket of Africa.
Hlala kwabafileyo
While I do not support the apartheid regime, I hate what the African National Congress has done to South Africa. They were elected in 1994 on a left-wing democratic socialist platform with nationalisation of key industries and wealth distribution on the agenda, to make a fairer, more equal country, but didn't do any of this and adopted right-wing neoliberalism instead; betraying all those who voted for them. Instead, a black elite has been created and has saw a reverse apartheid state created with murders of white farmers on the rise and worsened social inequality. Life expectancy has declined, murders have skyrocketed since 1994, record numbers of whites have left the country, a broken justice system and is now one of the most dangerous places to visit. I support the idea of all races living together in peace, but think the ANC needs to go.
Curtis DeLor Your claim to support left-wing values and social progressivism is undermined by your nonsense, racist, and non-empirical "reverse apartheid state" talking point. I agree that about neoliberal ANC policy, particularly with the likes of Mbeki, Ramaphosa, and so on, though not universally so -- hope you're not advocating for the über-neoliberal DA to replace them, however!
Thank goodness they did not go for full blown left-wing socialism. It's amazing that people could still believe in socialism after the 20th century. Socialism punishes achievement and rewards failure. No wonder it destroys economies. The inequality in South Africa is the result of socialist policies like minimum wage policies.
I'm all for subsidized education, though, because we do have a huge legacy to overcome. However, Equality needs to refer to opportunities, not outcomes. The more you focus on outcomes, the more you kill the goose that lay the golden eggs. It is not the place of the state to build houses for people and give them grants - especially not in a state where only a minority pay taxes. People need to be encouraged to better them self through affordable education and find decent jobs so that they can contribute to society, not become dependant on the state and be a drain on the economy.
Scraping Yines Absolutely not! I just want genuine party of left-wingers to replace them and implement democratic socialist policies. No apartheid of any form, just blacks and whites living together in harmony, and no neoliberal economic policies.
The crime of Apartheid *was not* seperation, but the forced nature of it. Likewise, you can't *force* people to integrate either. We're a country of many cultures. The best way to ensure people live in harmony is to just allow them the freedom to associate with whomever they want. The more you force intergration/segregation, the more you promote ethnic tension.
Scraping Yines No, I am simply advocating peace between all races and democratic socialism.
And the result is... South Africa became a third world Country.
It was always a third world country...
@@Luca-nu2zg Only if you were part of the white elite which only made up like 8% of the population. If 92% of the population lives like a 3rd World Country, in my eyes it's a 3rd World Country.
The great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭
A third world country is where 10% of the people hold oppressive power over 90% of the people. South Africa under the whites always was a third world country.
It's never too late to leave because your daughters and granddaughter are mostly going to marry ANC men, just to be fed and put bread on their tables. You will have beautiful grandchildren
voting to relinquish power
like Rhodesia before them
Amazing how dispassionately this was reported. I can just imagine how today's American media would report something like this!
And the sad part is how many white Afrikaans people fell for the corrupt NP Pik Botha DE Klerk story about the yes vote, today so many white people in South Africa are regretting voting yes, DE Klerk sold us out, I voted NO, I went to the SA Army, waisted so much of time on the South West Africa border, I was one of the white people from South Africa who fell for Ben Voster who proclaimed that Russia Cuba was going to capture the country, the so called red iron curtain,
I dunno... we seem to report mass gun murders dispassionately, like they are traffic jams or something.
A sad day for South Africa
Desperately sad. What on earth possessed a majority of the White voters to vote "YES", and how many of those that did have since lost their jobs, been murdered, or left the country ?
Sigmund Leid was the best day ever
Very sad.
You are a disgusting human being.
Very Happy you bora trash
I remember as a child how excited we were for the new united rainbow nation, I hope we can move forward together as a country and not let the wrong kind of leaders divide us
Hope is the cruelest of all emotions, for it prolongs suffering.
LOL, after 25 years of failure and murder, you still have hope?
Such a stupid, misjudged and misguided excitement.
I thought folks gave up on that 'rainbow nation' pipe dream by now.
tell that to the occupants of kleinfontein and Orania
The day South Africa died
The day apartheid and racist evil died.
Kont
@@SymphonyBrahms I'm glad you think racism is dead... It's still pretty much alive and today not mainly from white people
@@SymphonyBrahmsYes, but weirdly South Africa appears to not have benefited from its brave new world.
@@SymphonyBrahms Literally all it did was make the top 10% leave or die in poverty. IT did literally nothing for the remaining population.
Its all gone downhill
everyone so full of hope but what in reallity turns out to be a f**king disaster ...
Biggest mistake they ever made.
Best ever
@@crazychicSHENA in what way? The country is crumbling, it went from one of the wealthiest countries and a nuclear power with an incredible independent military and engineering/manufacturing industry. Into a failed crime ridden state, with no nukes, glorified militias filled with obese people, no industry of their own and crumbling rusting crucial infrastructure.
How so?
@@tvrtvr6984 Are you really that offended by black people? 🤣
@@tvrtvr6984 Wealthy for who? Better for who? Not if you were part of the 90% .
A referendum on ending apartheid was held in South Africa on 17 March 1992. The referendum was limited to white South African voters,[1][2] who were asked whether or not they supported the negotiated reforms begun by State President F. W. de Klerk two years earlier, in which he proposed to end the apartheid system that had been implemented since 1948. The result of the election was a large victory for the "yes" side, which ultimately resulted in apartheid being lifted. Universal suffrage was introduced two years later.
thats the day the white people sold themselves out , and now are crying long tears, still cant believe white people voted yes to stop apartheid, black lived better before June 94,thy had work food ,, now thy don't have food or work,
Pietersburg/North Transvaal shown at 7:58 was the only region to vote no.
And on that referendum day the white people sold themselves out to communist ANC cadres, thinking that black people will let them still rule the country
@@jakobhopfer1997 Probably due to it being on the Zimbabwe boarder and having some first hand insights in to what the future would hold.
It is, or was, also a very conservative area.
its not offen when u can exacly point the turning point
here u definitly can
Vote YES for corruption, crime and load shedding etc etc If only they knew what would happen! Zimbabwe 2.O
Shame! Do you miss privileges
He/she misses them😂@@moiketsimutsi6119
@@moiketsimutsi6119no we miss being able to walk outside without being robbed and stabbed to death for a cellphone, we miss a clean land look at the state of Pretoria and JHB cbd it's filthy! We miss the country growing, all your government know what to do is steal. The list goes on. You just stare yourself blind against apartheid and cannot see what this country is coming to. I'm very glad if you think black people have more work and a better life today than they had back then!
Voted yes to death
This kids is where the destruction started !!
Kingm,your so right!Most still don't understand it.They voted for communist revolution!
@@rynhardtvanrensburg2187 I voted a big fat NO as I knew what was coming. Wasted my time. Luckily I left when I did.
@@peterr7530 When did you leave? Guessing you won't ever go back to live there🤔
@@richardmadden8742 Left in 2002. Went back once on holiday for about 3 weeks. Still has some beautiful areas but I will never go back. Most of the country is overrun by crime and corruption.
I was in Pretoria...an Australian living and working there. The weather in Pretoria was gorgeous and there was such a feeling of hope and brotherhood amongst everyone. I left to come home the following year after 6 years. Now...the country is in ruin. Sad.
Yeah true, the abolishment of cheap labour and human brutality truly messed up the country, what a pity.
Really it's rude enough being alive when no one wants you.
I can also remember that great feeling of hope and brotherhood amongst everyone.
The same way the lives of native Australians were ruined by you whitey? You're a problem everywhere you go.
@@bd3825 i see our superiority has caused some controversy
The day south africa died and became africa
When Apartheid was happening the Whites should have partitioned the country into Black and White countries. They did not, they missed the boat.
im sorry if we did, i signed a petition today the bring white south african immigrants into the us, if that makes you feel better.
Viper Excellent solution.
Imagine black minorities in Europe partitioning countries, doesn't make sense
Apartheid SA gave the Bantu (Black people ) homelands. In total, ten homelands were created in South Africa. These were the Transkei, Bophuthatswana, Ciskei, Venda, Gazankulu, KaNgwane, KwaNdebele, KwaZulu, Lebowa, and QwaQwa. The homelands were designed for specific ethnic groups.
Joe Mcnamara We dont need anymore illegals
Voting "YES" to be flushed down the toilet....!
Uh what? 🤨
Too bad that the Boers can't terrorize people anymore. Boo hoo hoo.
@@SymphonyBrahms Too bad the British Empire cannot terrorize the world anymore...!
Stopped DEAD in their tracks by a handful of farmers...! Ha ha ha!
Too bad (for you) the the British and the Germans can't run their concentration extermination camps any more..!
Boo hoo hoo! (4u)
Ha ha ha (4us)
People on the global stage are ignorant of how much influence this little country at the edge of the world has over their matters. We know it all too well.
Like what
what kind of infleunce ??
Yeah come on...like what?
@@HateTheIRS South Africa is a country of firsts. First heart transplant, CAT scan, radar gun, we produced oil from coal, dolos, more efficient solar power, computerised ticketing, automatic pool cleaner, Pratley putty (which was used on Apollo 11), retinal cryosurgery, Q20, electric street lights, one of a few countries in the world in the 70s who had a sophisticated nuclear weapons and nuclear energy program, countless military weapons like assault rifles, fighter jets, tanks, pistols, missiles, the largest mining hub with South Africa being a major gold, diamond and platinum miner/producer plus major agricultural exports and this was all while SA had sanctions
Back then South Africa was like the USA. Now it’s the Walmart version of a first world country.
yes but only for a certain race
Because you did not go to the Bantustans
Rnelson....Nope. That's far to generous.
@desertdetroiter could have been though
We used to be better than the USA, stronger business economy, stronger currency and stronger military, now we lack all of it because of what the blacks have done
rip to the only functional country in Africa
Seychelles has entered the chat
Look at what has happened to this beautiful country!It's very sad!!!
The Africans were there first and the Africans will be there last.
@@AnthonyD-yy2inthey built nothing. It was an arid desert and uninhabited. And where is the diversity you people push on white countries?
This was the early 90s. Incredible.
South Africa please please please don't complain about things in South Africa now. You vote for this end of story
yes,, white people sold themselves out, by voting yes,
"Hendrik van der mescht" you're one of the freaks who would choose for minority whites to yield indefinite total control over the whole country, your anti-human barbaric beliefs about black people will never receive majority support amongst whites ever again
Agreed they only have themselves to
Blame they should have voted no but they voted yes and that’s why South Africa is ruined now
The problem of SA is that they tried to build a totally new country, instead of continuing with the old one but without apartheid.
Trouble is they continued the same country with new branding.
@@jamiearanyou're both right
A completely different South Africa. Miss it a lot.
You miss institutional racism?
@@ryancruz1876 Why would he miss institutional racism when SA still has that towards whites?
And the southern U.S. once had slavery. I imagine that you would have liked that for South Africa.
Not too late to leave. Not sure if you will survive the developments that are to come. The wealth will be in the hands of a few Blacks, just like in Apartheid. Imagine your granddaughters being married to ANC men just to put food on the table
@@ryancruz1876 Cant you read ? He never said that, you inferred that from your own racist lenses.
South Africa is a perfect reason why people of very different cultures and races shouldn't mix.
How Dare You How Dare You and other countries in the world are perfect examples of why they should
Then why are they in africa? Go back to europe and practice what you preech
@@Luca-nu2zg The stranger has no strength in a strange land. Africans are following the rules of European countries. Do the same, if not take a hike the mountains are still there.
@@Luca-nu2zg only if europeans didn't colonize all of africa
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If only they knew : l
Some of us knew, and we warned and warned.... But we were sweared at in terrible ways.
@desertdetroiter this is accurate
@34L H445
yeah because us black South Africans loved apartheid, we were marching rioting and dying in the streets because we wanted to show out admiration for the glorious government
@@gtproperty4197 aaa fur vark steakes....we no by now that nobody voted yes !!! Only 68%
So what if they knew? It's amazing how you think that your useless referendum meant anything. It didn't. It was inevitable that we were to realize freedom in our lifetime whether you like it or not
So weird to see roads and working businesses, planters with plants all in Africa...
Have you ever been in Africa?
Have you ever been in Africa?
@@lu881 Why? doesn't look like that now!
@@CheshiredGrin
Which part of Africa are you referring to?
Or are you talking about all of Africa? Which would tell me that you've never set foot in Africa.
@@lu881 post pics of where you mean
google maps areas I can see...
I remember that referendum. I voted in it then. It's funny, at the time I stayed in Yeoville, Johannesburg. The main road was a one-way street, which had recently been changed to have traffic going in the opposite direction. At around the same time as the referendum, was another referendum for if the road must be changed back to how it was. The video also shows Parow, where I stay now. It is about 20 km east of Cape Town.
Cool story bro
One mustn't judge history by today's standards.
This is the civilized comment I was scrolling to see! 👍🏿
Were you hopeful after voting yes?
@@lu881 What do you think?!
Turkies voting for Thanksgiving 🤣
europeans having a referendum to decide whether or not they should allow Africans to vote in Africa? What kind of nonesense is that? Would europeans stand for that? Then why should we? If you want to practice racism then do it in europe, not Africa.
Europe should look to this to see how compasion and empathy can be taken advantage of. Soon europe may suffer similar issues as S.A. just it will be because of growing populations of muslims.
jon b Compasion and Empathy??? If they were those words, they would have stayed in Europe. Black South africans were the ones who had compasion and empathy. They should be Happy all Mendela wanted was peace and not revenge.
jon b SA has always been majority black so that point is invalid
@@laurettembabazi-mbaga3724 Mandela was a terrorist, look how SA is being destroyed today .
@@raczyk a white European leaders are terrorist
I'm just glad we denuclearized...
@Delon Duvenage so....what happened in the meantime....did the time bomb went off???
We should've just dropped the bomb on ourselves. It pains me too much to see what South Africa has become.
@@Arnz01 Are you really that offended by black people?
@@ryancruz1876 you shouldn’t be surprised most of the whites we have here are disgustingly racist. It’s just sad if only we could unite to make this country better but they would rather complain from their high walls and comfortable salaries
@@hassanduale8028
I mean whites are the only ethnic group that carrying south africa you know that right?
On that very day South Africa died.
That’s a bold faced lie.
On that very day the evil of apartheid died. An evil South Africa died. And a better South Africa emerged.
I'm loving the reverse poverty. I'm now the new Black Johan Rupert . Can wait to marry off your daughter and granddaughters and we give you colored grand kids. Dude, times have changed. It's better you go to a more white country where your opinion and vote counts
I thought we were voting for a democratic non-racial South Africa. Apparently there was small print that I didn't read... :/
Uh what? 🤨
LOL How’s diversity working out for ya in the lovely “Rainbow Nation” these days?
Lekker vir my as 'n kleurling julle konte
Minority deciding if the majority of the people are worthy. The past was so bad 😔
and how have the majority proven their worth now?
@@nicmemak It's there homeland!!!
@@nicmemak They have the country that belongs to them.
@@SymphonyBrahms The Khoi San lived there before them and whites lived in the southern and western parts before any black tribe. So how can they now claim the whole country then?
@@higorvaleriano8119 I know this is an old comment but the majority of South Africas population, both white and black are not native to those lands. (If you consider the Afrikaaners to not be natives, then neither are the people who came after)
South Africa was actually clean
South Africa is more messed up than ever. Although Apartheid was wrong, there should've been a power sharing agreement back then. Full power to the ANC lead to the destruction of such a blessed country. The Western world should take note and learn from this mistake. I guarantee the vast majority of people who voted in 1992 South Africa wished they could've gone back in time to change their vote to NO.
Apartheid was already dead. Lol.The fact that whites were asked to "consent" was nothing but a gesture, superficial formality to purge their white guilt.
I feel this gesture was horribly misplaced as it gives the privileged through apartheid the perspective and right that the change was forseen by them through the vote... what nonsense
Economicamente o apartheid não se sustentaria mais.
Um arranjo contraproducente e caro pra ser mantido em pleno final de século XX. Diante de um cenário de queda do socialismo no leste europeu, fim da Urss e reunificação alemã, além da ascensão de países asiáticos no mercado internacional.
😂😂😂😂 go bk to Europe
The context though was that the South African State and economy were beginning to take severe strain financially.
Large fiscal deficits, shortage of forex, low growth and risks of default in one area. I recall even as a child that certain components, luxuries and media were becoming scarce.
In the other respects, demographics and urbanisation were also unrelenting, hence why the Nats gave up on restricting access to white areas a few years prior. Social unrest was also growing and the Cold War threat of Soviet communism was no longer an acceptable excuse to avoid further heavy sanctions from the West.
I recall that the IMF did manage to open some ANC eyes to the folly of their desires to both nationalise companies and collectivise savings, forex and State/parastatal funds. Specifically, by showing them how fast the money would run out and the country would be left with a forex reserve crisis, big fiscal deficits, high inflation (money printing) resource shortages and debt defaults locally and internationally, ultimately leading to food and employment crises. Apparently there was an important loan made to bridge the financial gap.
One cynical but perhaps realistic comment was that the reality on the ground made the non-violent transfer of power to Black South Africa necessary for White South Africa to avoid being brutalised in a civil war. It simply had to be done and the ‘verligtes’ in the Nats knew it. The outside world would otherwise merely have said White South Africa deserved what it got.
The lesson is: "Never ever vote for a man you don't know again".
Those of us who knew the De Klerks knew that you cannot trust them.
Two million voters didn't know him and signed their own death certificate on that day.
Do u really think that apartheid was sustainable?
@@forlornvaalan7630 Wow.
@@kanetsolengolo9233 It's true though. The ANC was not a threat. The worry was from the international community, that the whites would no longer tolerate the sanctions.
@@forlornvaalan7630 please stop living in a fantasy...no tyrannical government lasts forever...the great empire of Rome fell because of Germanic slaves that rebelled and used guerrilla warfare to defeat the power that thought they were supreme. Apartheid's height was during the 60s and 70s and the campaigns in Angola with the backing of the CIA. Apartheid racist government often labeled ANC members as terrorists because they were afraid of them and they knew that they would have supported of the west because the ANC had 'communist terrorists'.
White people should consider themselves lucky that there was never any war in this country, the intimidation used in the early days helped the apartheid regime but it was never going to last.
Apartheid was gonna fail regardless of what happened. It is not sustainable and won't survive the judgement of time.
Jesus look how clean and nice South Africa used to look....
Uh what? 🤨
They're showing 10% of the people and 10% of the areas, they ignore that the other 90% were trampled.
@@ef888 What a clean nation the white man L O l
The day South Africa died, we just live in the rotting corpses
From view of an American,it looked to be a beautiful place at this time.
Compassion for the weak is a beautiful thing, but if mismanaged, causes even more misery at the end. The biggest problem in the 3rd world has always been poverty and while charities & countries alike have pledged billions to end it, no one as yet has dared pledge billions into birth control. Hence, how do you supposedly end poverty in South Africa when for every 1 person that gets out of it, 5 are born into it??!!
Its a no brainer really!
@morton christie That's a ridiculous statement. The world has always cared about African resources, more then Africans. In fact breeding populations out of control is preciously the mentality of rich nations needing cheap labour for dangerous jobs. African women are not idiots. There are already plenty of Africans who use contraception, but because its not free (unlike in the West), its not available to everyone.
@morton christie You are nothing but a racist fool... Ek sal nie met 'n gevaarlike idioot praat ;)
@@fairboro153 What is a no brainer to you is actually you just demonstrating ignorance on this topic. Have you actually read anything about what drives family size? Do you know tbe centrality of family planning in development? Do you know fertility rates for all races in SA have been declining? Do you know anything about research showing population growth is linked to growth. Do you know about the impact of forced sterilization policies? Do you know theories of economic growth. I'm guessing not. But yet by some miracle you've got the solution that no one else thought of? Somebody give this man a Nobel prize.
Sorry if that was a bit harsh. I guess i should have compassion for the weak minded.
@@gazesalso645 I stand by my original comment. As 1 person gets out of poverty 5 are born in to it. To end poverty is to end the extra drain of supporting yet more babies by offering free contraception. It doesn't get more simple then that.
Amazing how South Africa looked like the USA, Australia. I wanted to know if these people still live in the country or have abandoned it. discrimination should really end, but changing the white government was a mistake.
They great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭
@@chj5328 *accept.
Why should we accept our former hellish lives? Why?
The USA and Australia are being destroyed and are now starting to look like South Africa looks like today.
@@chj5328 The great "Boers only Country Club" was based on the "British only Country Club" model, the Boers' (Afrikaners') previous oppressors and the now ruling "ANC only Country Club" is based on the "Boers only Country Club"...Welcome to South Africa, built on the British class system, a new Party in Power, new black elites, new black middle class, same poor class, except some "Boers/Afrikaners/whites" are now also in the poor class. What a great success story of Democracy!!!
turkeys voting for xmas...
@desertdetroiter ther will come a day when you will cry for the whites to return and they won't.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 truestory @jaybs1962
@@Bea_remembrance get you head out of your behind
Some turkeys voted for racism. They got what they deserved.
TALK ABOUT THE WORST DECISION IN GLOBAL HISTORY.
How so?
No, the worst decision was when the white colonists stole the land from the black people.
These newscasters sound very anglicised (British), was that typical of white English speaking South Africans then, is it a posh accent, is it regional, etc? Would love to know from any South Africans or others who have answers.
They where using received pronunciation like the B.B.C..
Lots of us speak like that. Most coastal English speakers have accents that closely approximate the Queen's English, especially in Natal.
There are also various South African accents.
So this is when Europeans decided whether to allow Africans some rights in South Africa . Truly historic
speaks volumes about the national attitude at the time that 2 in every 3 members of the ruling race were willing to give up their lavish social parasitism in favor of a liberal democracy.
Idiot. That was when WHITES DECIDED TO ABOLISH APARTHEID.
I see you resorting to name calling, did the idiot touch the nerve there?
They were scared that CIVIL WAR was coming to their segregated homes and farms. Blacks had realised that killing each other was not the solution, but going for Whites innocent or not was.
@@gtneal and look at the fruits of that decision
Disastrous outcome, when South Africa fell
Disastrous for you and your ancestors. As an Indian, my father says it was a disaster then and now.
At the time I wondered why there even was that referendum. I thought that it would definitely be a majority yes vote, and De Klerk would just be using it to his advantage. Later I wondered what would have happened if it was a majority no vote. Aar, then again maybe nothing would have become of that, with reforms continuing unhindered.
Then again, if the reforms had, as a result, not continued, then the country's economy would have still continued to go down due to sanctions.
In the late 1980's the outside world was so hostile towards South Africa. Yet, there were countries, like elsewhere in Africa, with far worse atrocities. But, that didn't mean much, or anything, to the outside world. And, the two countries who picked on South Africa the most, were the two countries who had the most to hide, namely the USA and Australia.
One can what hypocrisy there was, in those sanctions. And, it was whites towards whites. That shows again that one mustn't stereotype, including towards whites.
I heard that a majority no vote would have led to more sanctions.
There would have been a civil war
if it was a no vote country would still of been in white people's hands,not like now with the veil ANC< they are evil, before 94 SA was clean and safe, one could walk late at night alone in street
Shocked at how white east london used to be
Most people in these places were black these videos show polling stations where only whites could vote.
Nothings last forever....there is always an expiry date fkr everything
All of them should have voted to portion 25% of the country to themselves, and given the rest away. What they did was naive and foolish
I was just 8 years in 1992. I didn't see much what this people are doing.
It will always be astonishing how apartheid government single-handedly ruined South Africa. Imagine how far we would have been if we never had apartheid. Hope that one day South Africa becomes the country that most of us want!
Imagine a South Africa with ANC in power since 1948😳
Christo Van Niekerk you comparing ANC to the Apartheid regime? Apartheid is one of the worst genocides ever recorded on earth. Committed by the most evil group of people to ever crawl this earth and they still exist...😩
@@jjm2682 'Genocide' - What rubbish. More people are murdered every year in SA than were killed by the NP during the entire regime of Apartheid.
@@christovanniekerk1097 imagine a South Africa with equality and right of education, health, salary, infrastructure since 1948 for ALL!
@@christovanniekerk1097 The United Party would have won so South Africa would have been more of an Anglo pro-commonwealth country like Australia or NZ.
Voted away their children's future. One man sold his own pll to the devil. Another lied about his real intention. Sheep's to it's own slaughter
I think youre a bit confused
@@tyrone9953 in what way ?
@@56364 an insanely racist way
@@Lagiacrus1996 explain ?
I remember this day. I was only 12, but I remember it.
Not everything is doom and gloom in South Africa, despite what some people would have us believe...but where we are getting it wrong, we need to admit it and understand that we are getting it SERIOUSLY wrong.
Remember, this was the day white South Africa found their collective conscience and voted to move forward into a united country. We need to remember this sometimes I think.
Right, to move forward and condemn the country their ancestors built to ruin.
@Dunebuggy12 And condemn the terror state their illegal immigrant-colonialist ancestors built*
Not illegal. A lot of South Africa was bought legally from the chiefs with a mutually agreed price. If anything, we are entitled to Southern Natal.
The country their ancestors built???? For themselves and nobody else.
Boers bloody illegal immigrants.
I have been studying the situation in South Africa alot recently because I believe it is what all white countries have to look forward to in the future if mass immigration continues and globalism continues to take over. We will end up being persecuted miniorities in our own countries that were built by ancestors. I was wondering how this happened that the ruling white population willing gave up the future of their nation. Can anyone explain to me what led to this and what the immediate results were?
Well, they grew a conscience. That's why they decided to share. Unfortunately, racism doesn't have a color. The new govt is just as racist. And crime is rife. All races suffer when there is crime. But things are not out of control. Only racists don't like it. As a South African, I can say that is worse in other places.
I remember that day, I was completing my military service in 1992 and we were shipped off to vote. I am amazed that the modern South Africa don’t realise that there was a vote to stop apartheid and treat every person as an equal. This day was the turning point, this was the day South Africans (White) put an end to an atrocious past. Nelson Mandela had the government on its knees with a threat of a civil war if they were not accepted to government, the biggest mistake was not working together at that point to combine government, instead the NP handed over the “keys” to the country and walked out. This was the largest mistake in South Africa history, not the vote.
You will find the correct answer in Deuteronomium 28. It is an eye opener.
REAVER 14 it was never their land
Sanctions by western countries had a big effect on the S A. economy/ international pressure.
Wow. This looks like a place I’d like to live. Wouldn’t even visit what it has become.
dis rayzuz
Same
yes stay far away from SA,its a dangerous crime riddled country now, when white people still ruled it was safe and clean,now its only crime, dirty streets
The great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭
@@chj5328coloured have white culture
they had to vote cause they didnt have a choice
Yup. Look at those areas in 1992, you should see them now. Crime riddled rubbish heaps. It is very sad. A failing country we have inherited.
@@dantewalters5209 Then move. Iran would like you.
@@SymphonyBrahms What an immature response.
They don't like that truth. The apartheid was already inevitable over. Mybe the best thing this referendum possible achieved is allowing for a peaceful transition without a civil war. Otherwise, Apartheid was inevitable done
But it's the truth. You found Africa in a dump and it's occupants loved that dump. Now its occupants have taken over and it's returning to a dump. If you don't like the dump, just leave because things are never gonna change.
Conveniently forgotten by the eff and anc
This was to vote if they agreed with what was already happening, "talks on how apartheid was being done with"...Make no mistake, it was not to decide whether apartheid should end or not but if they agreed with the fact that it was inevitable coming to an end
It wasn't your country to give. It wasn't your country to take in the first place.
If you don't understand white privilege then you've just watched it. Imagine having to have a whole referendum to give human beings basic human rights. White folk are really a special kind of species. Anyone who yearns for the "perfect" days of Apartheid honestly needs to revisit their thinking. SA in 2020 is not perfect, far from the utopia we all dream of, but to yearn for the days of Apartheid is sick.
This referendum was badly phrased. We voted for shared government. Not anc dictatorship
When I think about Suid Afrika my heart is broken. I had so much hope. Now it's damned near gone
its not close to,,it is gone,,what is left of the country that worked before evil Mandela took over,he was just so evil as rest,before 94 streets were clean, no potholes, white people could walk alone at night,not like now, even black are scared to walk alone at night now, before 94 black people had work, had enough food to eat,, and now,more are foodless workless, all due to BBBEE
It's a shame
South Africa will find a way to sucess in the near future.
However crime has come to overshadow the bright capacities of this amazing nation out there at all.
Back then I was 10 years old back in 1992.
Now it is 2022 and I am now a 40 year old Medical Lab Personel.
1990 was the increased unloading of British colonies. South Africa, Hong Kong, less influence in Australia and Canada, Soviet Union dismantled (yes the British installed Communism in the Russian Empire), Yugoslavia also was dismantled, again, setup by the British in WW1. It has been a scramble for power from 1990 till now.
Biggest mistake ever, coming to America soon they're trying the same tactics here but we are on to them
So you support crimes against humanity?
@@ryancruz1876 no , not sure how you are confused or what your implying but no I'm trying to stop crimes against humanity
@@uncletim6 This was a referendum on whether to support the reforms proposed by President de Klerk, including the end of apartheid. Apartheid was, in no uncertain terms, a crime against humanity and a disgrace.
@@uncletim6 So y'all got some land y'all owe. Don't be afraid of the future you see.
Nothing like that is happening in America. Stop listening to Fox News. They are liars.
Can anybody from SA tell me what they think, why the white SA voted to end apartheid?
International pressure
@@maarmanrodger thanks
@@maarmanrodgerwho exerted the pressure? By 1992 the Soviet Union was gone. America?
Farrrrk. We went from one extreme to another extreme. We need a neutral competent and intelligent government to take care of all south africans
How about giving people more democratic rights like deciding how the workplace is run so that people become work with democratic processes in their every day life.
the country has gone to far back, it will never go back to like during apartheid years,which was best times, no crime, clean streets no potholed streets, which party will fix it,
@@eisbeinGermany i agree that the country was thriving like that of a developed nation. However is it fair that only one race benefited whilst the others suffered? At the end of the day, its pure coincidence as to what race we are born. So would you feel the same way if you were born as a non-White?
@@san12X How do you know it is pure coincidence? And whether it is 'pure coincidence' or not, what difference does that make when there are immutable racial differences which can never be surmounted?
@@InqvisitorMagnvs I don't quite understand what you are trying to saying but nonetheless would you feel the same way if you were born a different race than you currently are?
I can't believe that this type of world made sense to some people.
This was the time you MUST book your one-way-flight out of South Africa...and never come back...the country has become a mess since 1994
ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION.
Human nature separates races. That’s why we have ghettos of different races in any multicultural multicultural societies. We prefer to be with our own kind
so why leave your own kind and insert in places like whites always do? then they wreck havoc and then go back home
@@Scalwag4087 so stay in those spaces, you guys throughout history and even now impose on others and complain constantly. stay in your own spaces and deal with the consequences of your own actions
in silence.
First and last time I've ever voted.
Wow south Africa sure look nice and clean back then.. wonder whag happened
Kyk hoe mooi en skoon was Suid Afrika, voor 1994.
Wimpie de Klerk called us "verkramp".
But who were right and who were wrong?
His "verligtes" fled the country.
How ignorant can one be?
En kyk waar sit ons nou. .
They should have done more to ensure minorities would be protected before they voted to end apartheid and give the black majority vote. They should have set up a federal system with a national government only having a few functions.
So those in the wrong should have done more to protect themselves from admitting their wrong before they admit to being in the wrong?
Awunyi ba kanene
You are right. A confederacy with a light federal government should have been setup even before apartheid was instituted. That would have made S. Africa a viable state.
Signed their own deaths
What it was to have coherent tv announcers who were precise with their words .
Unlike the lot we have today , overpaid , verbose and employed on race , not ability .
You are a vile individual
And the country elevated itself into first world status ever since.
A year ago i lived in arcadia,let me tell you its gone downhill really really fast in just over 20 years.
I'm from New Zealand, and I have held a fascination for South African politics for a long time, mainly because we have long held sporting ties with South Africa, and of course the rugby history, and the tours and the all which that entails. Along with Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are part of the Southern Hemisphere triumvirate. From where I sit, it seems that apartheid era SA was such a bizarre society, and I also get that there is also division between the Afrikaans speaking community and the English speaking communities.
The comment section is a shitshow.
Once you jumped on board and joined it, yes!
@@danielcoetzee5793 How original!
@@SimonPageSA Umad?
One black guy in the comments say that they signed there death warrants, hence the reason there’s farm murders.
Farm murders? In your imagination?
Wat op aarde het ons besiel!
Should have voted NO....and contained the bantu in his own area..by force if necessary....
@@davidverster9523 the world forced you, Aparthied wasn't sustainable, it's like you all forget that by the late 80's the Apartheid government was all but done, sanctions were getting tighter, the country was in a State of Emergency, Social unrest was growing and resistance forces were becoming full blown militaries, the country was of the verge of a civil war, the countries economy tanked.
The problems we face now happened before, South Africa is one country that can't seem to ever have everlasting peace, it's a country the repeats the same mistakes over and over again.
Thetha into evalalayo wena kakandini
David Verster do you believe in the third riech?
I hope you mean to start apartheid, because human rights were inevitable.. delaying it is what our generations are paying the price for.
Chickens voting for KFC
Boers voting for evil racism and apartheid.
The comments here are so hilarious.. 🤣🤣
What's so funny about them? You must be black or a black appeaser
These whites are crazy😂
Cbreazie Nutz and you’re uneducated? Black
Aw Bbo my fellow white brother, I go to Hilton and yes sire thy is BLACK
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Can we go back to calling it “Transvaal” ?
Call it what you like. It's a free country now.
Make no mistake, apartheid was wrong, and it was absolutely necessary that it end. Nonetheless, it's sad the way post-apartheid South Africa went. It seems that one variety of one-party state was merely swapped with another. Now, the ANC has more or less absolute control for the foreseeable future, and it seems intent on running the country into the ground. What SA really needs is a strong multi-racial, multi-party system, one in which political ideals take precedence over "voting ones race." At the end of the day, SA is just more evidence that identity politics are inherently destructive for all involved.
Like SG voting culture
The newscast mentioned the referendum was to decide "the future of South Africa" but it was never explained what the people were voting for. It's explained below though but nowhere in the newscast did they make it clear...
Yeah, I'm not certain but I suspect this was government controlled media - not exactly in their best interests to inform the public.
Probably because they didn't need to state the obvious. They've been talking about ending Apartheid for years. Any South African watching the news that day knew what the referendum was about.
@@freezafeesh9251 The president at that time was in favor of ending Apartheid. SA television had probably been talking about the contents of this historic referendum long before this day came, so I think they didn't need to state the obvious and just covered the election itself.
We should have been told the truth the national party never gave me a choice if I had known I could have taken my family out of this messed up country and immigrated and would have been settled now I feel we were lied to.
The turkeys were voting for Christmas.The whole sorry SA story began that day.Perhaps it delayed a civil war ?
They great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭
Looking at these comments almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter...
Racism on both sides makes me hate the world
From First class country to 5th class. Real quick SA😁
Its easy to get that right when you use 3class citizens to achieve your goal.
True when you consider that your first class was only 10% of the population. Such a racist slunk you're you piece of crap
@@Que970 hahaha true can't these farts ever move on
@@Que970 haha you are so sour my boy!?or just jelous
@@Que970 we only needed that 10%. The rest of you belong in the bush, and comtribute nothing.
We are all slaves ...none knows it yet but the boere also are slaves bec we camed here to get away from wars ...the british leaders tooked control and still have control over many nations...thats how most british learned to speak afrikaans later generations later children came along they started learning afrikaans from a young young age.. later on using us boere to fill their pockets while we struggle ..
LOL are you sure this is SOUTH AFRICA?
YES!🤣
Yes! The better South Africa - there was such a beautiful time.
@@Arnz01 i doubt that
@@Arnz01 If so where was the majority of South Africans?
Kunene, Have a look bra. That is how normal people who can behave them selfs come together, and look how clean are the surroundings !!! Incredible hey. !!!
How lovely, whites could decide whether non whites had the right to vote in the future. We are so grateful to the whites to vote 'yes'.
Well they created that little paradise in South Africa. Now it’s in shambles like the rest of Africa.
i am sure you are also VERY grateful being in this HELLHOLE you live in today.......Enjoy.......but do NOT complain ....this is what you wanted..!!