There is a reason for animosity between Mr.Ambadkar and Gandhi ji. Mr.Tharoor missed out an important chapter about Mr. Ambdkar that he wanted to convert into Siekhism but Gandhi ji was threatened by his decision and went to great lengths to put a stop to it. “When the news was brought to "Gandhi", that Dr. Ambedkar and his friends have decided to convert to Sikhism then Gandhi was shocked. He wrote a long write-up in the Harijan on August 22, 1936, under the title 'A Dangerous Proposal'and brought into recirculation the term Harijan, children of God, for depressed classes; he said, he could not contemplate of their going out of the Hindu fold. In a letter dated September 7, 1936, to Jugal Kishore Birla, Gandhi wrote: "Today I will only say that to me Sikhism is a part of Hinduism. But the situation is different from the legal point of view. Dr. Ambedkar wants a change of religion. If becoming a Sikh amounts to conversion, then this kind of conversion on the part of Harijans is dangerous. If you can persuade the Sikhs to accept that Sikhism is a part of Hinduism and if you can make them give up the separate electorate, then I will have no objection to Harijans calling themselves Ramanujis or Sikhs."
The main reason of animosity was not the conversion to Sikhism but the double face of Gandhi . Read the book " Dr br Ambedkar life and mission by Dhananjay keer"
Till I performed last rituals of my father, I never knew my surname & Gotra. My grandfathers (paternal/maternal) never used and we brothers & sister did our schooling with our maiden names. My son, daughter & nephew proceeded with their prime name but as they appeared for their board examination in 90s, schools directed them to write CAST. I remembered my Gotra but due to uncertain circumstances their surnames appeared in their Secondary Board I cards. But we didn't use that. Who was responsible after so many decades to force us to do something so drastic which was discontinued by our forefathers. Though you replied a question over this issue in affirmation, I don't see this change any time in future. Even those who are suffering till date would never cooperate even if they join the elites of present society.
I don't understand why Dr Shashi Tharoor is not the leader of the opposition yet. If he was, he would have been the PM of India ages ago. If the current standards are anything to judge by, this man is clearly way overqualified for the job! (the job of Prime Minister). Oh wait, screw the current standards, he is light years ahead of any of the current world leaders.
So utterly proud of of this scholarly man.. Indeed a national pride, the way his immense intellect & modesty shines right through. Such a pity that he is still a member of the corrupt & dynastic Congress party , with a bean brain called RaGa at the helm. He would be such an asset in Modi's top-in-class cabinet, truly add superlative value there along with equally high calibre, educated & most competant cabinet ministers. Time for both Modi & Tharoor to reach out to each other...for the sake of the Indian nation.
Top in class cabinet 🤣🤣🤣 you mean the cabinet which is filled with orthodox castiest brhamins + movies Start's Your top.class cabinet are against constitution and against Dr br Ambedkar . They recently removed the chapters on Dr br Ambedkar from syllabus . This is not top class it's bottom class.
I don't think the excommunication of people is solely the charecter of the Hindu order alone. Christianity and Islam had some non inclusive tendency too. Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism too had/have its privileged and under privileged. The rebellion in India against excesses of notorious privileged hindu clans became violent a lot more than under Christianity and Islam. The bigger question we need to address is, are these people intrinsically different or are they one people, if they are two different people we need to find solutions that are different to those being prescribed. The progressive ideals that took hold in the West post evolution of protestant religion and later on the political reorganization owing to widespread scientific values helped give voice to many other burdened/excluded people. It is important to emphasize unless the people fighting privilege embrace the rigorous scientific progressive values they do not have much case.
It is the human phenomenon that self created birth groups with some identity is going to remain for ever of humanity. Answer is read vedic scriptures which are the oldest ever in human heritage. As much as the short coming of such human natural behavior of self grouping can only be eliminated by perfect understanding of such self grouping as well as solutions given there in for right social order and responsibilities as per sanathana Dharma sasthras. It surely shows the way how to live under such circumstances. Throughout the world and nations there had been such social groupingdue to freedom of having their lives within the family as well as such geo social grouping. Since those sastra shows clearly the punishment meted out to wrong doings of any individual or grouping and methods to overcome social evils within those sastra. Categorical examples also have been shown as how to conduct one's life without belittling others dignity and still respect other points of view and live our own life as long as it is within sastra book. Please note any number of constitution and rule of law no way superior to the one given by sastra which do accommodate for everybelief every social grouping etc. Example being honest telling truth compassion to others not to ridicule people tor their miseries and suffering even if one can not help etc. All the scope is there in Veda and sastra for those who do not believe in all of those. Sanathana Dharma is ot just for so called today's coined word Hindu but for all human beings. I include all faith and non faith people in this Sanathana Dharma. Only karma and ritual portions vary as per the social geography and family traditions. No provision at all for coercion at all as information is clear about what might happen for one if followed or otherwise by wisdom.
Dear Tharoor ji, Dr Ambedkar while converting to Buddhism took 22 vows & guided his followers to do the same,Is there a mention of its significance in your book…
Dr. Tharoor could mention the contribution of Jogen Mandal in rehabilitating Dr. Ambedker in his own constituency. Ultimately poor Mandal had to leave Pakistan to his destiny of political oblivion!
sir തിരുവനന്തപുരം ജില്ലയിൽ കല്ലിയൂർ പഞ്ചായത്തിൽ 8-ാം വാർഡിൽ പൂവപ്പള്ളി - കരിയറത്തല റോഡ് 600 മീറ്റർ വരും ഗതാഗത യോഗ്യമല്ലാത്ത രീതിയിൽ വളരെ ശോ ചീനിയാ വസ്ഥയിലാണ്. റീട്ടേണിംഗ് വാൾ കെട്ടി പുന:രുദ്ധരിച്ച് ഗതാഗത യോഗ്യമാക്കുന്നതിനു അങ്ങേയുടെ MP വണ്ടിൽ നിന്നും 30,000 രൂപ അനുവദിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള സന്മനസ് ഉണ്ടാകണമെന്ന് അപേക്ഷിക്കുന്നു. ഈ റോഡ് എന്നും ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്ന അങ്ങയുടെ ആരാധകർ.
Because his values are different. He wrote a book in Dr br Ambedkar and the BJP are removing the chapters on Dr br Ambedkar from syllabus . BJP is orthodox Brahmin ideology party which is against Shashi tharoor ideology.
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Your speech and especially the Q&A was superb !! Keep up with these dialogues and awareness. We learn something new everyday.
There is a reason for animosity between Mr.Ambadkar and Gandhi ji. Mr.Tharoor missed out an important chapter about Mr. Ambdkar that he wanted to convert into Siekhism but Gandhi ji was threatened by his decision and went to great lengths to put a stop to it.
“When the news was brought to "Gandhi", that Dr. Ambedkar and his friends have decided to convert to Sikhism then Gandhi was shocked. He wrote a long write-up in the Harijan on August 22, 1936, under the title 'A Dangerous Proposal'and brought into recirculation the term Harijan, children of God, for depressed classes; he said, he could not contemplate of their going out of the Hindu fold.
In a letter dated September 7, 1936, to Jugal Kishore Birla, Gandhi wrote:
"Today I will only say that to me Sikhism is a part of Hinduism. But the situation is different from the legal point of view. Dr. Ambedkar wants a change of religion. If becoming a Sikh amounts to conversion, then this kind of conversion on the part of Harijans is dangerous. If you can persuade the Sikhs to accept that Sikhism is a part of Hinduism and if you can make them give up the separate electorate, then I will have no objection to Harijans calling themselves Ramanujis or Sikhs."
The main reason of animosity was not the conversion to Sikhism but the double face of Gandhi .
Read the book " Dr br Ambedkar life and mission by Dhananjay keer"
Sincere effort reflects in his conversation.
I love listening to Dr. Shashi tharoor 's unlimited intellectual brain.
Till I performed last rituals of my father, I never knew my surname & Gotra. My grandfathers (paternal/maternal) never used and we brothers & sister did our schooling with our maiden names. My son, daughter & nephew proceeded with their prime name but as they appeared for their board examination in 90s, schools directed them to write CAST. I remembered my Gotra but due to uncertain circumstances their surnames appeared in their Secondary Board I cards. But we didn't use that. Who was responsible after so many decades to force us to do something so drastic which was discontinued by our forefathers. Though you replied a question over this issue in affirmation, I don't see this change any time in future. Even those who are suffering till date would never cooperate even if they join the elites of present society.
I wish I had a teacher like Shashi Tharoor
due to this great invention caled internet, now we can have that
we all want this bro
I were a teacher
We are proud of you Sir.
It was a brilliant discussion. I am sure the book will be equally illuminating.
What a lovely speech
Looking forward to more talks by sir in Bombay
Love you sir❤
A brilliant speaker and orator Dr .Shashi sir..always mesmerized to hear his clear thoughts various topics
I don't understand why Dr Shashi Tharoor is not the leader of the opposition yet. If he was, he would have been the PM of India ages ago. If the current standards are anything to judge by, this man is clearly way overqualified for the job! (the job of Prime Minister). Oh wait, screw the current standards, he is light years ahead of any of the current world leaders.
When I listen sir always learn something new . ❤thanks sir ....so much.
Great lecture Sir
Proud of u sir
So utterly proud of of this scholarly man.. Indeed a national pride, the way his immense intellect & modesty shines right through.
Such a pity that he is still a member of the corrupt & dynastic Congress party , with a bean brain called RaGa at the helm.
He would be such an asset in Modi's top-in-class cabinet, truly add superlative value there along with equally high calibre, educated & most competant cabinet ministers.
Time for both Modi & Tharoor to reach out to each other...for the sake of the Indian nation.
Time is running out for modibhakt 😅
Top in class cabinet 🤣🤣🤣 you mean the cabinet which is filled with orthodox castiest brhamins + movies Start's
Your top.class cabinet are against constitution and against Dr br Ambedkar .
They recently removed the chapters on Dr br Ambedkar from syllabus .
This is not top class it's bottom class.
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We are proud of you sir, congratulations.
We are proud of you sir
Incredible speech
I don't think the excommunication of people is solely the charecter of the Hindu order alone. Christianity and Islam had some non inclusive tendency too. Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism too had/have its privileged and under privileged.
The rebellion in India against excesses of notorious privileged hindu clans became violent a lot more than under Christianity and Islam. The bigger question we need to address is, are these people intrinsically different or are they one people, if they are two different people we need to find solutions that are different to those being prescribed.
The progressive ideals that took hold in the West post evolution of protestant religion and later on the political reorganization owing to widespread scientific values helped give voice to many other burdened/excluded people.
It is important to emphasize unless the people fighting privilege embrace the rigorous scientific progressive values they do not have much case.
Man naver dissopoy❤❤
Thankyou Mr. Tharoor
This man is brilliant.If we had
guys like these to run the country,we would have been a more modern and far thinking nation.
The country will be far worse than what is now. Those who talk a lot will not perform as you think.
What exactly with the fellowships at Cambridge achieve? More research. How will impact be measured?
Nobel prize in literature is our expectation from you dear Tharrorji
Intellectual ambassador of India
I like this gentleman who is prolific polite elegant. I wish he reads more on Vedas and sastras and spread such values to hamanity.
Why you want him to spread evil values to the humanity. ?
@Paras-iz7ox because evil mind like yours can be corrected by another evil only.
@@venkatramangopalakrishnan1989 evil are those who read evil things such as Vedas. So that makes you evil not me .
@@nastissing4337 in your dreams.
The questions are more about Sri Tharoor than Sri Ambedkar
Shashi Tharoor has not gotten over colonial hangover.
Right person in the wrong party.
It is the human phenomenon that self created birth groups with some identity is going to remain for ever of humanity. Answer is read vedic scriptures which are the oldest ever in human heritage. As much as the short coming of such human natural behavior of self grouping can only be eliminated by perfect understanding of such self grouping as well as solutions given there in for right social order and responsibilities as per sanathana Dharma sasthras. It surely shows the way how to live under such circumstances. Throughout the world and nations there had been such social groupingdue to freedom of having their lives within the family as well as such geo social grouping. Since those sastra shows clearly the punishment meted out to wrong doings of any individual or grouping and methods to overcome social evils within those sastra. Categorical examples also have been shown as how to conduct one's life without belittling others dignity and still respect other points of view and live our own life as long as it is within sastra book. Please note any number of constitution and rule of law no way superior to the one given by sastra which do accommodate for everybelief every social grouping etc. Example being honest telling truth compassion to others not to ridicule people tor their miseries and suffering even if one can not help etc. All the scope is there in Veda and sastra for those who do not believe in all of those. Sanathana Dharma is ot just for so called today's coined word Hindu but for all human beings. I include all faith and non faith people in this Sanathana Dharma. Only karma and ritual portions vary as per the social geography and family traditions. No provision at all for coercion at all as information is clear about what might happen for one if followed or otherwise by wisdom.
Tell this to the law givers of so called sanathana Dharma whose primary aim was to belettle others.
Dear Tharoor ji, Dr Ambedkar while converting to Buddhism took 22 vows & guided his followers to do the same,Is there a mention of its significance in your book…
Baba sahib Dr amedkar was most educated person in the world
Dr. Tharoor could mention the contribution of Jogen Mandal in rehabilitating Dr. Ambedker in his own constituency. Ultimately poor Mandal had to leave Pakistan to his destiny of political oblivion!
sir
തിരുവനന്തപുരം ജില്ലയിൽ കല്ലിയൂർ പഞ്ചായത്തിൽ 8-ാം വാർഡിൽ പൂവപ്പള്ളി - കരിയറത്തല റോഡ് 600 മീറ്റർ വരും ഗതാഗത യോഗ്യമല്ലാത്ത രീതിയിൽ വളരെ ശോ ചീനിയാ വസ്ഥയിലാണ്. റീട്ടേണിംഗ് വാൾ കെട്ടി പുന:രുദ്ധരിച്ച് ഗതാഗത യോഗ്യമാക്കുന്നതിനു അങ്ങേയുടെ MP വണ്ടിൽ നിന്നും 30,000 രൂപ അനുവദിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള സന്മനസ് ഉണ്ടാകണമെന്ന് അപേക്ഷിക്കുന്നു.
ഈ റോഡ് എന്നും ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്ന അങ്ങയുടെ ആരാധകർ.
Tharoor is living into a twilight zone under a Congress 2:12 rulers. He is smart but in opposing side of a political court.
Selwyn College is a below average institute because it's primarily an evangelical institution.
Shashi Tharoor can join the BJP openly 😅why is in the congress ?
Because his values are different. He wrote a book in Dr br Ambedkar and the BJP are removing the chapters on Dr br Ambedkar from syllabus .
BJP is orthodox Brahmin ideology party which is against Shashi tharoor ideology.
No human being is of low caste or class.