Yo what is up guys, hope you enjoyed this memory of chaos breakdown getting to and completing these stages was a massive amount of fun and honestly more fun than I can remember having in a game in a long time. There is a lot of nuance to team building and combat in this game and I can't wait to try and get 3 stars on everything next. Now that we know exactly what we're dealing with and have seen it all the true theory crafting can begin!
I laughed out loud when he said he didn't superimpose Bailu's light cone to keep it relatable! 🤣That said, whale or not, it's impressive to clear chaos 10 this early in the game.
It's just whale playing MoC 10 with a lot of Char+LC. "All you need to clear MoC is just LV. and Gear not a Char+LC" that what I want to hear not this sTRateGiES.
@@k.8515n a way kinda correct tho. If all the characters are lvl 80-90 also, which is maybe several months from now, lot ppl will be able to clear this too. Yea u can clear faster this early with being whale and have llot good chara + their LC. But later on most ppl will be able to do it too.
Awesome! I've neglected my Yanqing so far, but he's going to be next once I've finished upgrading my current main team. Now just to get Bronya, Gepard, Bailu-
YQ is definitely strongest with Gepard jury is still out on his power level without him but the best way to use him is if you have a strong preservation unit with a taunt trace, ability or lightcone equipped.
15:25 Would it have been better here if after killing the right soldier you skill on the golem, get the advancement from turn ending, kill the left golem and use skill on golem again
@@GrimroGacha you instantly became my go to content creator to understand better the units and strategies, looking forward for all your theorycrafting!
I noticed a few times you used trailblazer basic when you had ultimate ready. I think sometimes you were saving trailblazer ulti to re shield, but other times you used it right after wasting some energy. Might be able to optimize slightly there
I'm actually quite surprised on how low the investments on relics for most characters are. Goes to show that the right characters and cones matters more.
People are beating MoC 10 while I only go to FH 9 for that progress book achievement 😅. I guess I just don't want to tryhard the game for now until I get Jing Yuan. I do enjoy playing SU only for now
For a lot of us, that's just how it is. I don't have Bailu, Yanqing, or Bronya, so I don't have two healers or two main dps or two good supports. I'm just gonna wait until I have some more pieces of the puzzle before I try to make that work. It's a huge pain trying to progress to MoC if you don't have two healers at the very least. I'm gonna wait and see how far people can get with F2P.
Quick suggestion, when showing off Relics, could you quickly click through them all to showcase the subs? It's a bit of a holdover from Genshin showcases but I appreciate when people showcase their builds like that . Also, 🐳🐋🐋🐋🐳 as requested
At 23:25 you make it sound like trailblazer fire skill reduces damage dealt to everyone but I thought it only reduces damage to her? Thanks for the great content!
I won't be able to clear any MoC in next 2 patches as it will take weeks for 2 decently built teams(struggling on floor 13 Forgotten Hall Memory right now), I wish for max star it at least once before 2.0
I think the key is to identify some teams and units which you beleive might stand the test of time and be universally good. For this reason levelling healers and supports and picking up some decent gear for them isn't a bad idea as they can come to pretty much every fight.
Great showcase! With the importance of the Freeze and other CC like Quantum pushback, does that mean that Ice, Quantum, and Imaginary with CC in their breaks are far better than units that aren’t those elements to abuse Break CC atm? Will this impact how good/bad Jing Yuan will be in comparison due to him being Electric?
The damaging elements are bad and there will be enemies that will not be broken by the controlling elements but if an enemy was weak to all 7 elements I would choose one of the 3 you picked for sure yes absolutely.
Great video and in-depth explanation. I‘ve written everything down though I really don‘t think I‘ll get that far; at least not this week since I‘m only on TL 45 and I already used up my Fuels too. I do have the roster though. Seriously though, a few of the people in the comments need to calm their tits. MoC Stage 10 is ultra-endgame! You can‘t expect to clear it with only F2P units especially not at this point into the game.
This is why Grim ma boii is my Idol 😂😂 cracked af but ngl, please do touch some grass omce in awhile, I'm concerned by the dedications but still props to ya mate for doing this content for all of us 👍
I almost reached the standard banner Pity, im really wishing for a Gepard for my Yanqing. I’ve also saved up 100+ wishes for Silver Wolf who’ll also go well with him
On the gepard side? without a doubt you should be a be able to easily if you have enough speed and gear to allow her to keep some extra shields up when they are needed.
how did you manage to get all the sig lightcones already? was pulling on the seele banner that abundant for store materials and they were purchased or was your standard banner the most terrifying weapon banner in the game?
About your bronya guide, is the "Memories of the past" still her best (purple) lightcone? Or is it "Past and future" now? I'm curious because I see Prydwen website has updated.
Hoyoverse Developers really needs to do something about Relic farm stamina requirement. it should be 20 stamina instead of 40. I'm nearing TL50 and I just cant complete upgrade sets! I have 2 full sets and ornaments +15. Third has one more to +15, and my 4th set is +0. This is tough!
i thought with beating memory of chaos 10 u mean 3 staring it but little did i know that this is actually so goddamn hard its def gonna take atlteast a few more months till were able to 3 star the whole memory of chaos my respect for just beeing able to beat it at all 😭
I think when the level cap gets risen and more characters get introduced (cuz we know we will shit ton of them cuz we are just on Loufu and there are six or five more ships like these in Xianxou and those have their own general), we will be able to clear these up easily and more strategically. Also I feel like there can be more of these dungeon type mission in the future cuz universe is infinite, anything can happen. We can even go down a planet's core which could work like floors.
Definitely. Only whales can clear this content properly at the moment. On top of having game-changing units like Gepard and Bailu which are important for your second team, you need a TON of resources to build proper teams of lvl 60/70's
Nice work! I am stuck on 14 since I only hat Nat for healers. Fire MC, March and Clara aren't enough to get me through on the squad that doesn't have Natasha. would love to see some clears of these without Bailu if you have some time. Thanks!
Honestly I feel like luocha might be something that needs to be very strongly considered for players without bailu or gepard as you can see the incoming damage is just disgusting not sure I can manage it without bailu or gepard :(.
@@GrimroGacha I think I agree. unless there is another 4* healer coming soon I might need to think about him. I have 30 more summons for a guranteed 5* on basic banner so maybe I get lucky...
Crazy combo with yanqing and gepard. I have a quick question about seele, would you reccomend the 2pc set that gives 8cr and 15% ult dmg bonus/follow up atk dmg or the one that gives 12% attack and then another 12% if ur spd is 120, I'm unsure how those two compare to eachother since theres a lot of external ways to get attack in this game and there might be diminishing returns on atk.
Great video! In Cn, some runs used Clara as tank for Yangqing teams, for now its really demanding for clears and 3 stars, most teams i watched have Seele, Yangqing, Geppard, Bailou and Bronya... kinda too many for a starting patch. Alson congrats on finishing.
I have also seen this clara tech and it looks incredibly powerful, I'm not sure how effective this is at E0 though a lot of the chinese players are using E6 clara.
@@GrimroGacha The ones i watched im sure it was not E6, because she did not counter, other allies but probably E1 because of the mark. Not that im sure 100% since i dont remember really well Clara Eidolons and i dont have her
Wowzers, you have all of the signature light cones. I only got Welt's light cone, is it any good? Also, is there a difference in the taunt effect gepards LC gives vs the 4-star option's taunt effect? And are you able to make a tier list of the current five star light cones for the shop priority( the signature ones, not the herta ones)?
Most of the signatures apart from himeko are very good. I'm not 100% sure about the increases offered by the light cones all I can say is both of them provide a very noticeable amount of increase.
Thanks for the insightful video! I'm trying to build a 2nd team for Forgotten Hall. My first team has Selee, Bronya, Tingyuan, and Nat. For 2nd team, I can choose between Yanqing, Welt, and M7. I have a guaranteed 5* from the 300 pull and I'm trying to decide which to select to fit in my 2nd team. Would Clara (I have her 5* LC), Gepard, or Bailu be better in the long run? I'm also considering skipping Jing Yuan for Luocha if that matters.
Can't really say for sure as only you can make that call but you only need 2 healers total and shielders like gepard can also solo sustain a side with enough investment.
@@GrimroGacha Yeah, it's been nagging me all day, but that's a good point. If I may ask one more question, have you seen teams in MoC utilizing Gepard without a healer in the team? Thanks again!
@@PinkBanana09 Yes I have seen many teams run just gepard as the solo sustainer and I also plan to do this myself and put natasha on the bench but who can say if this will be viable in 1.1 and beyond.
Great strat tips ! Question tho, how come you save Bronyas ultimate sometimes when your team is attacking? It was early Cocolia fight, and fire MC and Bailu had their attacks. Is the boost to your support attacks kind of negligible here?
It's possibly a misplay or just to keep it open for more options on the seele turn. My bailu and FMC basically do 0 damage so I only really pay attention to it for her.
My main team is Seele + Bronya + Tingyun + Bailu What do you think would be the optimal characters to go for in the future to be as strong as possible for all content? I was thinking getting Silver Wolf and then running Seele + Bronya + SW + Bailu as my main team. Then after getting Kafka, I could do 2 teams: 1) Seele + Bronya + Tingyun + Natasha and 2) Kafka + Serval + SW + Bailu What do you think about this and if you can recommend any other, more optimal route, please do. This is meta-wise, not taking subjectivity in account.
Personally I think you're gonna need some serious defensive additions unless 1.1 MoC changes thing to be way less damage taken but I kinda see it going the other way so maybe the addition of a shielder on each of the teams might be something to test out but apart from that you got it right I'm guessing the premium supports are Bronya, ting, Silver, Welt and Pela.
Seele is the best unit in the game and just looking at the upcoming banners it doesn't look like there is much that will change that. There are a lot of good looking kits, but I'm not seeing much that just punches a big hole in a boss as well as she does.
Nice Video!! I have Bronya and gepard, i have 5 stars bronya light cone. I lose 50/50 in seele banner...so is better take seele or go for jing yuan with this 5 stars i have? i'm free to play
I'm not sure since I didn't extensively test Jing Yuan in endgame yet with all gear on him. I can tell you Seele feels like a good damaging character though even at maximum difficulty content and my seele still has a lot of room to grow.
It's a really tough call as you have to make the decision without fully knowing the capabilities of Jing Yuan but I think you can be safe to choose the one you like the design of more or the one which has 4 stars you are interested in.
Nice vid! Im still in the process of clearing memory 3-5. I think the lack of resource is starting to get me. I havent spent any money on this game yet but Im sure itll get me soon as im having a lot of fun playing this game. Can you make guides for the other floors as well?
@@GrimroGacha yes please! I know that we're kinda gated at the moment kinda like back in Genshin 1.0 but I strongly believe that the initial 4 stars are kinda good enough. Its just that the resource gap are starting to really be a thing at higher level. Nice vid! Keep the great and infomative vids up!
Is Gepard or Bailou the more important character? Have an e6 Natasha, getting closer to free draw. Have gepard light cone (on mc) but could also buy Bailou lc
As long as I dont mind to use Yanqing skill every rotation before burst (to reactivate his passive), him without gepard can totally work just fine right?
I think it really depends on the fight, in a single target focus fight or cleave fight as long as you have some form of taunting unit he should be just fine sitting in a corner most of the time on the other side of the field compared to the tank but I didn't extensively test him without gepard yet.
You can get a lot of materials from Simulated universe other than that I didn't upgrade a single relic until TB level 40 and I was insanely picky about what I chose to preserve the materials as much as possible.
@GrimroGacha ah thanks. I've really only upgraded seele purples to 12 and I'm TB37 right now. I upgraded the other members to like 6. I'm gonna prob buy the pass to hopefully get help with my 5 stars
Well... Still waiting for info, how to get there at FTP with E0 Selee, E1 Clara as 5stars with Herta's Hunt Lightcone. No Gepard, no Bronya, no Foxlady, no second Healer.
I just started building my 2nd team today (i will get eq3 tomorrow) and I'm currently at stage 9. Is it still worth to build a yq + gp team and try to finish the forgotten hall, or should I wait until it reshuffles the enemies in MoC then build another team to clear it? Thank you.
I would say it depends on who you plan to pull in the future but I think gepard is a super safe unit to level as he can be played as a primary or secondary sustaining unit making him even more flexible than healers like bailu and nat.
@@GrimroGacha Thank you so much. I'm planning to get kafka but currently I don't have any nihility character beside pela, so maybe I should farm for support/tank characters for now and wait for more information of kafka?
It's a really tough call I think it's save to take supports to 60 with level 6 traces and ascend them but then you should probably focus on some dps but which ones that is the question we really need to see some more people come up with dps that aren't yan qing and seele to make a call on that one.
I can't decide on which 8 characters to focus on. I have every 4 star and my 5 stars are Bailou, Welt, and Welt's light cone. And I won't be pulling for Seelie or Jing, because I'm saving for Luocha. I'm obviously building my 2 abundance and 2 preservation, and I would like to use Welt, but can't decide on the others.
Welt is an incredible support and great for imaginary coverage as for your dps choices those are definitely going to be the hardest and right now we just don't have enough information to definitively say who is the best outside of seele and yanqing+gepard combo.
I have no idea but she is definitely very strong I feel like some people thought she wouldn't get her resets or something in memory of chaos but that is very much not the case.
It's possible with higher gear levels and character levels we'll be able to manage damage coming in a little more but there certainly is no shortage of big hits coming our way.
Yo what is up guys, hope you enjoyed this memory of chaos breakdown getting to and completing these stages was a massive amount of fun and honestly more fun than I can remember having in a game in a long time. There is a lot of nuance to team building and combat in this game and I can't wait to try and get 3 stars on everything next. Now that we know exactly what we're dealing with and have seen it all the true theory crafting can begin!
Nice uptime on gepard. Is he using an energy regen relic?
Actually he doesn't have energy rope. So he has a lot of room to grow.
WIll make guides on all units present in these teams asap.
@@GrimroGacha Looking forward to it! Very impressive run btw
Quick question, is floor 10 the reason why some people are claiming that eidolon 6 hook is actually S tier?
Really enjoying the in-depth descriptions of your thought process here. Congratulations on the clear!
4 5-stars and their signature light cones: reasonable
E1 Bronya: alright, I got a little lucky
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I laughed out loud when he said he didn't superimpose Bailu's light cone to keep it relatable! 🤣That said, whale or not, it's impressive to clear chaos 10 this early in the game.
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Lmfao I rolled my eyes
It's just whale playing MoC 10 with a lot of Char+LC. "All you need to clear MoC is just LV. and Gear not a Char+LC" that what I want to hear not this sTRateGiES.
@@k.8515n a way kinda correct tho. If all the characters are lvl 80-90 also, which is maybe several months from now, lot ppl will be able to clear this too.
Yea u can clear faster this early with being whale and have llot good chara + their LC. But later on most ppl will be able to do it too.
Thanks for this one! Breaking down the gearing and stats at the end is SUPER helpful for trying to plan spending stamina can be the most useful.
Props to the dedication and strategy
Seeing this vid just makes me wanna pull luocha over SW honestly
@@jin8982 ikr same. gonna go for that blade luocha strat
Awesome!
I've neglected my Yanqing so far, but he's going to be next once I've finished upgrading my current main team. Now just to get Bronya, Gepard, Bailu-
YQ is definitely strongest with Gepard jury is still out on his power level without him but the best way to use him is if you have a strong preservation unit with a taunt trace, ability or lightcone equipped.
Yanqing is a dude?
30 minute vids every day, you really are the HSR GOAT 🙏
Grats Grim and thanks for sharing these info.
Ayy that Basic ATK trick on Yanqing came in handy for this fight, nice!
can I ask which part was that?
@@halevy7987 It is around 9:50
@@hybridxx8123 thanks!!!
15:25 Would it have been better here if after killing the right soldier you skill on the golem, get the advancement from turn ending, kill the left golem and use skill on golem again
love this explanation! helps so much. thanks for the video
min maxing at its peak potential
Recently discovered your channel and I have to say, I love your video, keep the good work mate :)
very impressive!
I am very hyped for Jing yuan and any content you will upload regarding him, I hope I won't regret skipping Seele for him 😂😂
Will definitely be covering some Jing Yuan content don't worry.
@@GrimroGacha you instantly became my go to content creator to understand better the units and strategies, looking forward for all your theorycrafting!
That's some skill to complete it so underleveled, but i wonder if enemies get shuffled when memory of chaos reset
They should get reshuffled after Jing Yuan's banner ends.
@@GrimroGacha You sure you mean Jing Yuan and not Seele's banner?
@@SoundBubble that's how they do it in genshin. - couple of resets with the same enemies per patch
@@gigitrix really? It's been close to 2 years since I last played, but I thought it was a new lineup every 2 weeks
@@SoundBubble Should be a new MoC every 6 weeks so we have roughly 4 weeks left of this one.
Never knew you could fire off multiple initial skills preflight….😮
I somehow ready the title as Mommy of Chaos cause you had Cocolia in the thumbnail XD
I noticed a few times you used trailblazer basic when you had ultimate ready. I think sometimes you were saving trailblazer ulti to re shield, but other times you used it right after wasting some energy. Might be able to optimize slightly there
You're 100% right thanks for pointing that out.
I thought he was doing it to refresh the trailblazer's stacks for the empowered attack?
gratz! it’s great to see everything come together. hopefully you’ll get a clara soon and we can get some in depth content on her as well 🤞
I do think that someday we're gonna get a healer that can cleanse entire party
That would be very much appreciated.
apparently lynx does that, she's gepard and serval's younger sister and is quantum abundance
Yep Lynx Kit already got leaked and he can cleanse the whole party
I'm actually quite surprised on how low the investments on relics for most characters are. Goes to show that the right characters and cones matters more.
Very very nice indeed 🤩
Insane! Well done
Now I just need bailu and gepard for these teams
People are beating MoC 10 while I only go to FH 9 for that progress book achievement 😅. I guess I just don't want to tryhard the game for now until I get Jing Yuan. I do enjoy playing SU only for now
For a lot of us, that's just how it is. I don't have Bailu, Yanqing, or Bronya, so I don't have two healers or two main dps or two good supports. I'm just gonna wait until I have some more pieces of the puzzle before I try to make that work.
It's a huge pain trying to progress to MoC if you don't have two healers at the very least. I'm gonna wait and see how far people can get with F2P.
Quick suggestion, when showing off Relics, could you quickly click through them all to showcase the subs? It's a bit of a holdover from Genshin showcases but I appreciate when people showcase their builds like that . Also, 🐳🐋🐋🐋🐳 as requested
Will do in the future.
At 23:25 you make it sound like trailblazer fire skill reduces damage dealt to everyone but I thought it only reduces damage to her?
Thanks for the great content!
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Having two healers certainly help :c
That's my biggest issue is memory of chaos. My first team is easy clear, but the other just gets destroyed
Grim, what’s your thoughts on silver wolf recents ykw -
Step 1). you need 2 healers Step 2). you need 2 shielders step 3). 2 hunters step 4). 2 buffers step 5). Faceroll and just dont die = Profit
step 6). have 5 units 5* with their respective signatures 💀
I won't be able to clear any MoC in next 2 patches as it will take weeks for 2 decently built teams(struggling on floor 13 Forgotten Hall Memory right now), I wish for max star it at least once before 2.0
I think the key is to identify some teams and units which you beleive might stand the test of time and be universally good. For this reason levelling healers and supports and picking up some decent gear for them isn't a bad idea as they can come to pretty much every fight.
Great showcase! With the importance of the Freeze and other CC like Quantum pushback, does that mean that Ice, Quantum, and Imaginary with CC in their breaks are far better than units that aren’t those elements to abuse Break CC atm? Will this impact how good/bad Jing Yuan will be in comparison due to him being Electric?
The damaging elements are bad and there will be enemies that will not be broken by the controlling elements but if an enemy was weak to all 7 elements I would choose one of the 3 you picked for sure yes absolutely.
Great video and in-depth explanation. I‘ve written everything down though I really don‘t think I‘ll get that far; at least not this week since I‘m only on TL 45 and I already used up my Fuels too. I do have the roster though.
Seriously though, a few of the people in the comments need to calm their tits. MoC Stage 10 is ultra-endgame! You can‘t expect to clear it with only F2P units especially not at this point into the game.
This is why Grim ma boii is my Idol 😂😂 cracked af but ngl, please do touch some grass omce in awhile, I'm concerned by the dedications but still props to ya mate for doing this content for all of us 👍
I almost reached the standard banner Pity, im really wishing for a Gepard for my Yanqing. I’ve also saved up 100+ wishes for Silver Wolf who’ll also go well with him
GrimroGacha, thanks for the video and congrats for beat Memory of Chaos 10
it's my time to farm _speed boots_ kkkk
thank you for the video as always. Do you think that you can replace Natasha with M7? Having extra shield+freeze can be nice.
On the gepard side? without a doubt you should be a be able to easily if you have enough speed and gear to allow her to keep some extra shields up when they are needed.
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how did you manage to get all the sig lightcones already? was pulling on the seele banner that abundant for store materials and they were purchased or was your standard banner the most terrifying weapon banner in the game?
🐋, but in all seriousness nice to see the CoM10 strategy you've put together, and going over the gameplay and thought process behind it.
Please answer me, Which is better against two elite enemies: Hunt character or Erudition character?
About your bronya guide, is the "Memories of the past" still her best (purple) lightcone? Or is it "Past and future" now? I'm curious because I see Prydwen website has updated.
Hello Grim! Stuck on F22. Maybe you can give tips?
Hoyoverse Developers really needs to do something about Relic farm stamina requirement. it should be 20 stamina instead of 40. I'm nearing TL50 and I just cant complete upgrade sets! I have 2 full sets and ornaments +15. Third has one more to +15, and my 4th set is +0.
This is tough!
TL50 will have 1 garuntee and 1 50-50 chance. TL 60 might have 2 garuntees per 40 stamina similar to genshin.
Taking sets to 15 is likely why you are having trouble try only taking them to 9 or at a maximum 12.
i thought with beating memory of chaos 10 u mean 3 staring it but little did i know that this is actually so goddamn hard its def gonna take atlteast a few more months till were able to 3 star the whole memory of chaos my respect for just beeing able to beat it at all 😭
It will certainly be a fun challenge for all players.
"I decided to not superimpose my 5 star light cone to make it more relateable"
This has to be the most out of touch sentence a whale can say.
Bro, hi. What can you say about Welt? Can doing guide for him maybe?
My daily entertainment video has arrived❤
Need Bailu and Gepard so bad :/ feel like they are a must have for chaos memory since u need to support both teams and don't have many options
I think they are very strong but eventually it will be done without them.
honestly u only need them if u wanna complete chaos memory underlevelled, once ur characters on a lvl playing field it generally doesnt matter as much
I think when the level cap gets risen and more characters get introduced (cuz we know we will shit ton of them cuz we are just on Loufu and there are six or five more ships like these in Xianxou and those have their own general), we will be able to clear these up easily and more strategically. Also I feel like there can be more of these dungeon type mission in the future cuz universe is infinite, anything can happen. We can even go down a planet's core which could work like floors.
I think we can for sure expect a lot more content similar to this but maybe a little more approachable for sure.
Definitely. Only whales can clear this content properly at the moment. On top of having game-changing units like Gepard and Bailu which are important for your second team, you need a TON of resources to build proper teams of lvl 60/70's
@@SomaStory tru brother. Luckily I got Seele, Yanqing and Bailu. They so good （っ＾▿＾）
@@GrimroGacha yes. We just have top wait. Cuz I have high trust and expectation of Honkai devs.
Nice work! I am stuck on 14 since I only hat Nat for healers. Fire MC, March and Clara aren't enough to get me through on the squad that doesn't have Natasha. would love to see some clears of these without Bailu if you have some time. Thanks!
Honestly I feel like luocha might be something that needs to be very strongly considered for players without bailu or gepard as you can see the incoming damage is just disgusting not sure I can manage it without bailu or gepard :(.
@@GrimroGacha I think I agree. unless there is another 4* healer coming soon I might need to think about him. I have 30 more summons for a guranteed 5* on basic banner so maybe I get lucky...
18:37 ice golem froze the recording, what a Chad
Crazy combo with yanqing and gepard. I have a quick question about seele, would you reccomend the 2pc set that gives 8cr and 15% ult dmg bonus/follow up atk dmg or the one that gives 12% attack and then another 12% if ur spd is 120, I'm unsure how those two compare to eachother since theres a lot of external ways to get attack in this game and there might be diminishing returns on atk.
I like the 24% attack set myself.
Great video! In Cn, some runs used Clara as tank for Yangqing teams, for now its really demanding for clears and 3 stars, most teams i watched have Seele, Yangqing, Geppard, Bailou and Bronya... kinda too many for a starting patch.
Alson congrats on finishing.
I have also seen this clara tech and it looks incredibly powerful, I'm not sure how effective this is at E0 though a lot of the chinese players are using E6 clara.
@@GrimroGacha The ones i watched im sure it was not E6, because she did not counter, other allies but probably E1 because of the mark. Not that im sure 100% since i dont remember really well Clara Eidolons and i dont have her
Ahh so all we need to do is get BiS character pulls and we got this!!!
Wowzers, you have all of the signature light cones. I only got Welt's light cone, is it any good?
Also, is there a difference in the taunt effect gepards LC gives vs the 4-star option's taunt effect? And are you able to make a tier list of the current five star light cones for the shop priority( the signature ones, not the herta ones)?
Most of the signatures apart from himeko are very good. I'm not 100% sure about the increases offered by the light cones all I can say is both of them provide a very noticeable amount of increase.
welt signature light cone is one of the best for nihility characters, works extremely well with welt
Thanks for the insightful video!
I'm trying to build a 2nd team for Forgotten Hall. My first team has Selee, Bronya, Tingyuan, and Nat. For 2nd team, I can choose between Yanqing, Welt, and M7. I have a guaranteed 5* from the 300 pull and I'm trying to decide which to select to fit in my 2nd team.
Would Clara (I have her 5* LC), Gepard, or Bailu be better in the long run? I'm also considering skipping Jing Yuan for Luocha if that matters.
Can't really say for sure as only you can make that call but you only need 2 healers total and shielders like gepard can also solo sustain a side with enough investment.
@@GrimroGacha Yeah, it's been nagging me all day, but that's a good point. If I may ask one more question, have you seen teams in MoC utilizing Gepard without a healer in the team? Thanks again!
@@PinkBanana09 Yes I have seen many teams run just gepard as the solo sustainer and I also plan to do this myself and put natasha on the bench but who can say if this will be viable in 1.1 and beyond.
Broo what boots do u use on gepard firemc natasha and bailu all speed?
Great strat tips ! Question tho, how come you save Bronyas ultimate sometimes when your team is attacking? It was early Cocolia fight, and fire MC and Bailu had their attacks. Is the boost to your support attacks kind of negligible here?
It's possibly a misplay or just to keep it open for more options on the seele turn. My bailu and FMC basically do 0 damage so I only really pay attention to it for her.
My main team is Seele + Bronya + Tingyun + Bailu
What do you think would be the optimal characters to go for in the future to be as strong as possible for all content?
I was thinking getting Silver Wolf and then running Seele + Bronya + SW + Bailu as my main team.
Then after getting Kafka, I could do 2 teams: 1) Seele + Bronya + Tingyun + Natasha and 2) Kafka + Serval + SW + Bailu
What do you think about this and if you can recommend any other, more optimal route, please do. This is meta-wise, not taking subjectivity in account.
Personally I think you're gonna need some serious defensive additions unless 1.1 MoC changes thing to be way less damage taken but I kinda see it going the other way so maybe the addition of a shielder on each of the teams might be something to test out but apart from that you got it right I'm guessing the premium supports are Bronya, ting, Silver, Welt and Pela.
Do you run speed boots on your characters, or do you get speed from your substats?
I run the speed boots on every character I can except for Seele.
@@GrimroGacha Wow, guess I've been undervaluing the stat. The extra turns makes up for the damage/defense loss then.
@@GrimroGacha Yanqing on speed boots too?
Yes he also has speed boots, this is just my approach so do your own experimenting.
Really cool video and congrats on beating it! Next goal as many stars as possible or maybe more F2P friendly team progress?
Will do both.
Will you be making a video about luocha and silver wolf soon ?
They wont be coming out for a while I'll be covering Jing Yuan first.
Hello, do all your units have speed boots?
Everyone but seele.
Hello, great video ! I don't have Bronya, who use for replace her ? I have all character except Bronya and Clara.
You can use asta, Pela or Welt
Nice!
Now I'm not sure if skipping Seele is the right choice hmm. I dont think the future banners will release a new dps on seele level soon ._.
Tough call for sure.
Seele is the best unit in the game and just looking at the upcoming banners it doesn't look like there is much that will change that. There are a lot of good looking kits, but I'm not seeing much that just punches a big hole in a boss as well as she does.
yanqing is also good if you have the team for him, those 2 are the top boss killers atm.
Nice Video!! I have Bronya and gepard, i have 5 stars bronya light cone. I lose 50/50 in seele banner...so is better take seele or go for jing yuan with this 5 stars i have? i'm free to play
I'm not sure since I didn't extensively test Jing Yuan in endgame yet with all gear on him. I can tell you Seele feels like a good damaging character though even at maximum difficulty content and my seele still has a lot of room to grow.
@@GrimroGacha i need decide my main dps. I lose alot if i don't take seele? because bronya + seel is op, but i like alot "stand" in jing yuan lol
It's a really tough call as you have to make the decision without fully knowing the capabilities of Jing Yuan but I think you can be safe to choose the one you like the design of more or the one which has 4 stars you are interested in.
@@GrimroGacha Ty for tips
Nice vid! Im still in the process of clearing memory 3-5. I think the lack of resource is starting to get me. I havent spent any money on this game yet but Im sure itll get me soon as im having a lot of fun playing this game. Can you make guides for the other floors as well?
Once I can do them with only 4 star units I will release guides before then I don't think it's going to be that helpful sadly.
@@GrimroGacha yes please! I know that we're kinda gated at the moment kinda like back in Genshin 1.0 but I strongly believe that the initial 4 stars are kinda good enough. Its just that the resource gap are starting to really be a thing at higher level. Nice vid! Keep the great and infomative vids up!
Is Gepard or Bailou the more important character? Have an e6 Natasha, getting closer to free draw. Have gepard light cone (on mc) but could also buy Bailou lc
That is a very difficult question to answer without being able to see what hoyo have planned for future content so I really couldn't say.
I think Gepard will have a higher priority until there's a new Promotional shielder . I recommend saving for Loucha .
Do you think this is even possible with only 4 stars atm? The only other ice dps is herta, not sure if herta + pela would be enough for 1st side
No, of course not.
Memory of chaos 10 is absolutely a whale territory at this point.
As long as I dont mind to use Yanqing skill every rotation before burst (to reactivate his passive), him without gepard can totally work just fine right?
Uh I'm not sure more testing without gepard needs to be done will do this leading up to the YQ guide I have planned.
I miss u but commenting for the algo
is yanqing worth using over 4 star options without gepard? would be nice to see gameplay of him with other options
I think it really depends on the fight, in a single target focus fight or cleave fight as long as you have some form of taunting unit he should be just fine sitting in a corner most of the time on the other side of the field compared to the tank but I didn't extensively test him without gepard yet.
17:38 Thinking about the 50/50 Bronya E1
That could have been what I was thinking about now that you mention it yeah.
@@GrimroGacha I have that Eidolon and its a blessing and a curse due to my greed with winning the 50/50 and getting more damage out.
@@Dunkerque351 I think it's best to play as if it doesn't exist and then take the freebie when it activates.
How on earth did you get enough relic upgrade mats? We can't farm those like character xp books and light cone upgrade mats right?
You can get a lot of materials from Simulated universe other than that I didn't upgrade a single relic until TB level 40 and I was insanely picky about what I chose to preserve the materials as much as possible.
@GrimroGacha ah thanks. I've really only upgraded seele purples to 12 and I'm TB37 right now. I upgraded the other members to like 6. I'm gonna prob buy the pass to hopefully get help with my 5 stars
Well... Still waiting for info, how to get there at FTP with E0 Selee, E1 Clara as 5stars with Herta's Hunt Lightcone. No Gepard, no Bronya, no Foxlady, no second Healer.
Will take quite some time for that to be solved will need better gear most likely. Give it a week or two.
I just started building my 2nd team today (i will get eq3 tomorrow) and I'm currently at stage 9. Is it still worth to build a yq + gp team and try to finish the forgotten hall, or should I wait until it reshuffles the enemies in MoC then build another team to clear it? Thank you.
I would say it depends on who you plan to pull in the future but I think gepard is a super safe unit to level as he can be played as a primary or secondary sustaining unit making him even more flexible than healers like bailu and nat.
@@GrimroGacha Thank you so much. I'm planning to get kafka but currently I don't have any nihility character beside pela, so maybe I should farm for support/tank characters for now and wait for more information of kafka?
It's a really tough call I think it's save to take supports to 60 with level 6 traces and ascend them but then you should probably focus on some dps but which ones that is the question we really need to see some more people come up with dps that aren't yan qing and seele to make a call on that one.
I love the Gameplay
I can't decide on which 8 characters to focus on. I have every 4 star and my 5 stars are Bailou, Welt, and Welt's light cone. And I won't be pulling for Seelie or Jing, because I'm saving for Luocha. I'm obviously building my 2 abundance and 2 preservation, and I would like to use Welt, but can't decide on the others.
Welt is an incredible support and great for imaginary coverage as for your dps choices those are definitely going to be the hardest and right now we just don't have enough information to definitively say who is the best outside of seele and yanqing+gepard combo.
@@GrimroGacha Ty for responding. Guess I'll just focus on five for now.
Man I wish I had Bailu, the only current character I'm missing and it hurts so hard. Please have Luocha banner after Jing Yuan.
Unfortunately, leaks have stated Silverwolf will come first in 1.1 banner.
I just wanna know one think will there be better dps than seele in the future in like a year cause i am saving up jades for e6.
I have no idea but she is definitely very strong I feel like some people thought she wouldn't get her resets or something in memory of chaos but that is very much not the case.
do you run effect hit rate on anyone to help freezing?
I do not prioritise any effect hit rate on any characters no, it's possible my YQ might have a bit by accident though.
damm see this make me sure to pull luchoa than silverwolf for min-max account
It's possible with higher gear levels and character levels we'll be able to manage damage coming in a little more but there certainly is no shortage of big hits coming our way.
@@GrimroGacha how maximal aoe damage from highest lvl monster memory of chaos?
The biggest hit I took from aoe was cocolia which you can see in the video it hit's around 2.2k on a seele with 1000 defence.
the amount of times you say Here is just.... wow lol
Yeah sorry this one wasnt editted by my editor had to do it myself will be better in future vids
i got every character except yanqing would clara work on the first one instead of yanqing?
I'm not 100% sure as I don't own clara unfortunately and haven't gotten to try her teams in memory of chaos.
Does clara team work too?
What relics did you farm for your characters ?
Shielder/Wild wheat you can see it in the end use the gear time stamp
better use ice set or musket for yanqing?
2 piece of each
Some youtuber shouted you out. no idea you did gacha stuff i thought only poe.
yo was poppin grim
Not much not much! Preparing some Jing Yuan materials for the big day.
@@GrimroGacha i have also been saving all my jades for jing yuan, currently at 140 wishes for him
my issue is that if your f2p its much harder to form strong teams with such light amount of healers and tanks
Couldn't agree more luocha looking quite tempting for F2P stellar jade savers.
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Any replacement for bronya?
Pela, Welt or Asta or the upcoming Yukong in 3-4 weeks.
Some ppl keep getting hook eidolon instead of natasha RNGesus
too bad I only have one healer. I m basically stuck at Forgotten Hall 15.
Wow, I was about to pass on the whole Dance, dance, dance train of thought but I see its value now :)
what rewards do you get for clearing memory of chaos ? i havnt unlocked it yet
You get materials and 600 stellar jades every 2 weeks if you can fully clear it with all objectives.
600 gems for all stars
Why can't anyone pronounce Seele right? It's said over and over and over in the game... It's pronounced Seela.