How to Install a Vacuum Canister for Power Brakes for Improved Brake Performance

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @Vantrise-cg1of
    @Vantrise-cg1of 3 года назад +4

    Nice build. It's good to see you built what you wanted (305) rather than what someone else wanted like a 350. I don't discriminate, I build what I have.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад +2

      Hi. Thank you! I agree. If you can build what you have and it'll work, I think that's a great idea. It saves money, but it also helps you learn to figure things out better.

  • @glensoldan4536
    @glensoldan4536 Месяц назад +2

    Vacuum and fuel hoses are different. Vacuum will suck a fuel hose flat, they as you stated are capable of more pressure, but your pressure application is backwards.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Месяц назад

      Thank you for the info. I appreciate it and think others will too. So far the fuel hose hasn't given us any problems. Hope it stays that way. Thanks for the comment and giving us detailed info.

  • @carboydino
    @carboydino Год назад +1

    Hey man y'all's videos are awesome and I love the thorough explanations. Keep it up.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Thank you so much! I'm glad the explanations make since because Matt likes to work fast and doesn't like to "waste time" trying to explain things to me if I don't understand something. My main goal is to make sure we give the most accurate info possible. Thanks again for watching!

  • @BK3411
    @BK3411 Год назад +1

    Your video answered some questions I had, thanks for sharing!

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад +1

      You're welcome. If you have any other questions, please let us know.

  • @lsx6.279
    @lsx6.279 Год назад +1

    Great vid. Just ordered a pump and canister! Nice 3rd gen!! ❤

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Nice 👍 The pump really made the difference. The canister helped for 1 time breaking, but if you had to hit them again, it didn't have enough air in it, so the pump helped a lot. Thanks for the comment too!

  • @ronnieyoung7510
    @ronnieyoung7510 3 года назад +1

    I have a Chevy Malibu 78 I used one of them canisters they write work great you don't need a pump I got great pedal

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад

      Hi Ronnie. Turns out the canister didn’t work. After pressing the brakes once, they were almost not there. Just installed a pump, and it .works great. This cam only makes 6 inches of vacuum, which is very little. Thanks for watching.

  • @Dazzzlah
    @Dazzzlah 3 года назад +3

    You need 18" of vacuum to work your booster properly. You'll need a vacuum pump and the quietest type are the vane type. You can remove the hose from the manifold and plumb the pump to the canister. You'll also need a vacuum switch to start and stop the pump.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад +3

      Yes! You are correct! The canister alone wasn't getting the job done, so Matt bought a pump and installed it one day when I was at work, so I couldn't record it. He installed it in the way you said, and it works great now. The car stops perfectly, even in stop and go traffic now.

    • @zAvAvAz
      @zAvAvAz Год назад +2

      @@MarkDHall that is great news. watching matt's build construct is Fun and Omazing

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      @@zAvAvAz Glad you're enjoying them! Thanks for watching!

  • @anilrehmatullah7906
    @anilrehmatullah7906 Год назад +1

    Good video very informative

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Thank you for the compliment and for watching! I hope the video helped.

  • @liveliftservices
    @liveliftservices 3 года назад +1

    Totally different application I cummins swapped a 72 c40 that has a rollback tow truck deck on it and well the diesel makes like zero vacuum... so I had an electric pump but it was old and from another project and only made 5 in hg of vacuum and it was terrible but I found a new pump that was identical and it made 20 in hg of vacuum and was a pretty good improvement.. debating a vacuum canister just to store the vacuum but I worry about recovery rate once that's used up..

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад

      Hi! I don't know much diesels, but our canister refills instantly with the vacuum pump, even in stop and go traffic. From what I've read and understand, a pump isn't designed to provide continuous vacuum and works best with an external reservoir.

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Год назад +2

    i am just like to build a completely mechanicaL high leverage high torque brake lever system that i am pump the brakes manually with on my momma's 2nd gen.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Matt thought about going with manual brakes, but chose to go this way. Manual brakes will be lighter too because they don't have all the extra hardware. Thanks for watching!

  • @Monstero5o
    @Monstero5o 2 года назад +1

    Any videos on the vacuum pump install?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 года назад +1

      Hi, unfortunately, there aren't any because Matt did it during on one of his days off when I was working.

  • @dugsbugs1
    @dugsbugs1 Год назад +2

    All the canister does is stores vacuum so you don't run out under constant braking.
    It doesn't give you better brakes.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Exactly. It just holds extra air so the brakes work. For us the the canister wasn't filling quick enough, which is why we also had to add a pump.

  • @sampson7941
    @sampson7941 3 года назад +2

    I'm having the same problem. Just bought a leed bandit pump. We'll see how it goes

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад +1

      The pump should help. The canister didn't end up doing a lot. It helped for the first brake press, but if you had to stop again like going slow in traffic, it didn't get refilled in time. Once we got the actual pump, it made a huge difference. The brakes and everything are always at 100% ready to go.

  • @robertholland9331
    @robertholland9331 4 месяца назад

    It’s not pressure….it’s “ inches of vacuum “ and no, 10 inches is not enough, you need closer to 15 inches to assist with those brakes….66 drop top chevelle…..327 …. I have the same problem, bought the similar kit…. Had my doubts as well….I’m going to mount with tie raps for a very temporary installation…. I was ignorant, didn’t realize the cam would affect the power brakes…my bad …. I’ll probably have to purchase the darn vacuum pump …. Think they are somewhat smaller compared to the tin can ….thanks for giving it a try….

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  4 месяца назад

      It's actually not inches of vacuum, it's "Inches of Mercury" (inHg). Matt figured he'd try it without a can or pump to save money if it wasn't needed, but it definitely was. The can helped a tiny bit, but it was really the pump that made the difference by keeping the can full. Good luck, and your car sound awesome! Thanks for watching.

  • @ronnieyoung7510
    @ronnieyoung7510 3 года назад +1

    Yeah I think I filter up down by the canister that's why you have to buy a pump you already got too pressure

  • @barneygordon2585
    @barneygordon2585 Год назад +1

    does this replace a brake booster?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      No, it doesn't. We thought it might hold enough so we wouldn't need a booster, but it didn't work out. The problem was the canister wouldn't fill up quick enough. It was really bad if we were in traffic and had to hit the brakes multiple times. Matt originally only go the canister to try to save money, but ultimately he had to get the booster. He installed it while I was at work, so I couldn't get a video of the install.

  • @Edscarvideos
    @Edscarvideos 2 года назад +1

    Did you get a vacuum pump? I am looking at them now.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 года назад +1

      Hi - yes. We ended up having to get an vacuum pump. We got item #SUM-760152 from Summit Racing. It was pretty expensive, but the canister wasn't enough. I couldn't record a video of the install because Matt did it when I was working one day.

  • @alexisjasso5989
    @alexisjasso5989 3 года назад +1

    On my truck its a 1/2” brake vacuum hose, if i use a reducer would it affect it?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  3 года назад

      Hi Alexis. I'm not sure. I always like to use the recommended sizes and would be nervous to try it.

  • @thedobermangang3503
    @thedobermangang3503 Год назад +1

    Car sound good

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Thank you! Appreciate that. Matt just swapped the 305 for a 350, and I posted a new video of the first start here if you want to check it out. ruclips.net/video/dnd8DRWJZlw/видео.html

  • @lifeistoshorttolookback
    @lifeistoshorttolookback 2 месяца назад

    Question, I have a 65 impala and changed out the drums to disk, and my breaks are very hard. Bleed the system several times and till hard. thinking of getting this or should I check the vacuum pressure 1st?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 месяца назад

      Matt suggests checking the vacuum first.

    • @lifeistoshorttolookback
      @lifeistoshorttolookback 2 месяца назад

      Ok, thanks.

    • @lifeistoshorttolookback
      @lifeistoshorttolookback 2 месяца назад

      But what vacuum pressure I'm I looking for?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Месяц назад

      ​@@lifeistoshorttolookback That's something I can't answer for you because it varies by vehicle. My guess is that you want at least 15, but some cars require up to 25. The electric pump (not the canister) that Matt ended up getting produces up to 35 inHg. Hope that helps.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Месяц назад

      @@lifeistoshorttolookback Here's a link to the pump that Matt installed: www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-760152

  • @ronniewilcox3087
    @ronniewilcox3087 Год назад +1

    I could never ever work with gloves on

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Used to not do it, but if you get tight fitting ones, they're not too bad.

  • @thedobermangang3503
    @thedobermangang3503 2 года назад +1

    i think the vacuum canister would have work but u said u paid about $30 for it thats cheap you should have paid about $80 t $100 for the comp cam one its better..i never had a problem i got 1990 k5 rebuild my engine 355 with a howard cam lift 525/535 duration 227/235 lob separation 109

  • @TatiMags
    @TatiMags 2 года назад

    What was t your beginning vacuum pressure before you added the Canister

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 года назад

      Hi! I'm not sure what the beginning pressure was because we didn't have a gauge.

  • @drptp5017
    @drptp5017 10 месяцев назад

    Whats the link

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. I tried to remember (and find) the canister we got, but I don't remember which one it was exactly. The electric vacuum pump that we ended up needing to get is Summit Racing part number SUM-760152. www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-760152. Hope that helps!

  • @thedobermangang3503
    @thedobermangang3503 2 года назад +1

    THAT ENGINE SOUND REAL GOOD MY BROTHER.. WHAT SIZE CAM YOU HAVE IN THERE,, IM SUPRISE THAT THEVACUUM CASITER DIDNT FIX THE PROBLEM...AND BY THE WAY DID YOU EVERY FIND OUT THE PROBLEM OR FIX IT...

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 года назад

      Hi Doberman Gang. Thank you for the nice words! The cam is a Comp Cams cam & lifter kit CL12 602-8. For the vacuum issue, the canister helped a little - basically if you only had to hit the brakes once, but in stop and go, it wouldn't refill quick enough, so Matt put in an electric vacuum pump. It keeps the tank filled, so there's always plenty of vacuum. It's mounted directly under the canister where the vacuum ball normally goes.

  • @jimthigpen333
    @jimthigpen333 2 года назад +2

    Vacuum is not measured as pressure. It is measured in inches of Mercury at sea level (29.92") is a perfect vacuum. It is the absence of atmospheric pressure.

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  2 года назад +1

      Yeh. I realized I misspoke after it was uploaded.

  • @basiceducation1131
    @basiceducation1131 Год назад +1

    I need a electric break booster pump for my home made electric car.where to buy cheap and good

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад +1

      I'm not sure if an electric car is different than a gas one, but we get most of our parts from Summit Racing - www.summitracing.com. They have a huge selection and an easy to use return policy. Hope that helps!

    • @basiceducation1131
      @basiceducation1131 Год назад +1

      @@MarkDHall want to see my car..?

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      @@basiceducation1131 Yes!

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      @@basiceducation1131 Yes, definitely!

  • @jonathanwhite7968
    @jonathanwhite7968 6 месяцев назад +1

    U need at least 18 for power brakes

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  6 месяцев назад

      Yup, that seems to be the right number.

  • @paulthompson1654
    @paulthompson1654 6 месяцев назад

    Vacuum canisters increase the volume of vacuum,,,, but not how strong the vacuum is . IE A cannister WILL NOT go from 10 inhg to 15 inhg .
    The vacuum pump needed for 300deg cam ix the standalone Hella 5X vac pump . This unit does not need engine connection .

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the tip. We ended up getting an electric pump, which works great. We were trying to save money, but the canister alone didn't cut it.

  • @MohammadAfifi-v2c
    @MohammadAfifi-v2c 26 дней назад +1

    you need a bigger tank

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  24 дня назад

      We ended up getting an electric pump, which never has an issue but still have the tank too.

  • @basiceducation1131
    @basiceducation1131 Год назад +1

    Hi sir

  • @basiceducation1131
    @basiceducation1131 Год назад +1

    Electric Alto car

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      Not sure what that car is, but electric is definitely the future.

    • @basiceducation1131
      @basiceducation1131 Год назад +1

      Any solution for airconditioner.72v home made electric car

    • @MarkDHall
      @MarkDHall  Год назад

      @@basiceducation1131 Hi - sorry. No. No thoughts on that, but your car sounds pretty cool!