I will personally say, I have been using a variant of the Hunter build. Works way better on pure Void rather then prismatic. It's kinda a pain to proc devour on Prismatic so you end up losing out on a lot of the artifact's benefits. Plus my void build can help me leaning into finishers for the invis for the double extra damage (Echo of Cessesion plus the Artifact perk Debilitating Wave)
I literally just posted this same sentiment before I noticed ur genius comment. Plus on higher end content I need to be able to 100% control when I go invis & not have to rely on a debuffed kill when I’m one shot.
Facet of awakening spawns void breaches, and all you need to start the loop is 1 void breach and then 1 group of at least 3 red bars, then it's self sustaining as every 1 kill refreshes devour
i understand we're all in "this game sucks" mode but i dont understand anyone calling this gun mid. its not meta-shifting or broken by any means, but i think its a good gun
@@jacobknopp0 believe it or not there are more ways to classify how good a weapon is than just broken, dogshit, and mid lmao. there is a zone between "meta-shifting" and "mid" and that is where this gun is
@@udontknowme00 So mid-mid? Jokes aside I think the one sort of issue I have is that we JUST had another exotic Void weapon last season that's arguably much better than what this shotgun provides. Between this and the Choir of One there aren't very many reasons to really use this over it.
Can we just admire the serendipity of Cross taking his GG shot as Variks says ‘alert snipers on the field’ and the comedy gold of him missing as Variks says ‘correction…’
My biggest problem with the weapon is Loose Change and Stats for All serve the same role. One of those should be swapped out for Discord or Lead from Gold to help with ammo economy.
The issue I have with Slayers is that it's gonna blow when Old Gods Rite is gone. I think they should just roll it into the weapon. Edit: I didn't mean to imply the gun was trash, just that it'll suck when old gods is gone because I liked the pairing. Hindsight could've worded it better, but whatever.
No it won’t blow. It does really good damage. With cascade point it does more than the fourth horseman. So really good damage plus it automatically weakens and intrinsically stuns overload champs. Can also give an overshield with repulsor brace etc. How tf is that trash or it blowing? It doesn’t need old gods rite to be good smh.
@@hatchell18 I never meant to say it was trash. I just said it blows it was gonna leave cause I liked it paired with it. Maybe I worded it wrong, but I thought saying it's gonna blow when old gods are gone meant that it sucks that it'll go.
I'm currently loving this shotgun with Gyrfalcons. It's a good balance of add clear and chunky enough damage at the same time. Shoot an Overload champ and stun and then mag dump it, while you're mag dumping the scattering pellets would hit adds at the same time clearing up the place.
14:20 cross missed 90% of those super shots and now he’s trying to explain why he stopped using it, to make sure the weapon shines! Lmao 😂 This is exactly the entertainment we all come back here for.
The issue I felt with no backup plans was the survivability. Even with devour and void overshield every kill it just feels like you get shredded so fast in GM content if you miss one shot. Void overshield really needs some sort of damage resistance.
Overshields have like 70% DR now. The problem is that enemies in pinnacle content couldn't care less and shred through a full bar in under a second. Combine the timer and not a lot of convenient ways to replenish them it's no mystery why they're still arguably worst survival tool in the game.
6: 32 Ya I noticed that for a while now, there are some enemies that can see you even when invis. I have been sneaking on a mini boss and a random sniper take me out like the hell. Other time just like this a knight walk right up to me a melees me. It is annoying invis only really works on red bars it seems these days.
They also seem to target your last visible location so I like to move away from where I popped invis. Did notice tho that the first boss in warlords ruin still does his stomp if I pop invis far away and get close to cap a totem which is weird
The gun itself is not mid. Void is mid, the synergies are clunky and when making a void build you always end up either tripling up on 1 synergy that doesn’t amount to anything or being 1 fragment away from a genuinely good build with multiple synergies like other elements.
I played void last night for first time in a while and felt incredibly underwhelmed. I prefer the shotgun with other subclasses like my stasis fealty build.
I've been loving this shotgun + no backup plans build its finally taken me off monte carlo + second chance for pure void titan. Hunters can keep choir for their gyrfalcons build, I'll be running this for the next month
with the shotgun build, sure the new shotgun is pretty good but imo repulsor brace on a shotgun with no back up plans is redundant. Once the overshield is up, successive shotgun kills already refund the overshield. When running nbp I use a long range weapon with destabilizing rounds + repulsor brace (I use elsie's rifle). This allows you to run a primary shotgun of your choice and then legend of acrius. Twice as much shotgun amo, and acrius is already great on it's own (assuming you have the catalyst), with a 35% dmg buff it melts and you can save it for yellow bars too. Also by using a long range weapon to get an overshield this allows you to swap bastion for controlled demo so you can make stuff volatile with your melee before hitting them with a shotgun (run trench barrel or 1-2 punch)
So my four year old yelling "Boom Get Wrecked" when Cross destroyed the Hive Wizards on the No Backup Plans Build has been the highlight of my morning so far 😄😄😄 Matchmaking DOES need to be on everything! You'll get terrible fireteam members sure, but you'll also get awesome ones too & sometimes rubbish is better than none!
Built my own shotgun loadout last night and was speeding through almost all content. I’m not a buildcrafter so I’m sure it’s not perfected but I’m really enjoying this shotgun. It’s giving me Graviton Lance vibes with a little extra punch. My only issue is ammo.
Slayer's Fang seems fairly serviceable, but right now, I don't see a lot of reason to use it over Choir of One if you're going for a potent Void-only or Void-focused Prismatic build, unless you really want to lean into it with No Backup Plans (which does look quite spicy to be fair). I have a Scars/Severance class item for my Titan, and pairing Choir of One with Destabilizing Rounds with that just feels great, and is less risky to run in terms of positioning because of Choir's range. Plus, Choir is already kind of a shotgun hybrid with its hipfire. I like the idea of Slayer's Fang, but Choir of One just feels that much easier and more effective to use. Also, I get to name that build Choir of Scars, which sounds awesome haha
I feel like no one runs foetracer gyrfalcon, albeit I’m over it cause I’ve used it so much since it’s like consecration titan, but volatile auto procs foetracer so you just automatically get the 25% damage buff for free anytime you leave invisibility which is spoiler alert all the time. I ran it with Heartshadow and it A T E. Run it with Slayers Fang and it’ll cook in my eyes.
Prismatic hunter Winter shroud to prevent stomp mechanics. Grapple in Ascension out Smoke melee with radiant while in air. Unload with slayers fang. Most bosses die before your magazine is empty.
The shotgun is pretty good. Unfortunately a lot of players don't know what a special weapon is or how to make a loadout without two primary weapons. Shotguns are pretty good in pve but most players won't use them..
The hunter build is nice but I feel like golden just isn’t being used enough to justify having it on so I’d switch that to tether or honestly threaded specter since it cooks after the buff to roaming supers and woven mail with repulsive brase over shields is very nice. Also for some damage you should absolutely be running the radiant fragment and be chucking shurikens every where which will proc radiance and your invis while also improving the damage of the shotgun. This shot gun pairs so nicely with most mask of fealty builds and tbh the gyrfalcon volatile isn’t really needed.
The main problem with Slayer's fang is. Its a shotgun i dont see many people using shotguns in endgame stuff and last episode we got a void special weapon that is easier to use and doesnt need setup to take full advantage of. that exotic being the choir of one
@@leDevLVOk and again this weapon needs set up to make it work effectively it can be good without it's weakened effect it can't do much outside of damage which in endgame content isn't exactly enough to handle that
When it comes to the Titan build, Repulsor Brace is just too redundant. No Backup Plans already gives you Overshield for just killing 2 Red bars or 1 Powerful.
You don't even need to kill an orange bar. Literally, the only enemies that don't guarantee you an overshield are the weakest. Your thralls, dregs, war beasts, etc. Against them you'll need to kill a whopping 2.
Hunter invis isn't actually invis. It more works in a way so as to prevent the enemy from engaging you, but sometimes they didn't get that memo. Definitely needs to be tweaked, invis should be invis.
I had a very similar build to the Titan in this video but instead of weakening grenades I had the low health overshield fragment and suppressor grenades. With the amount of weaken slayers fang puts out the weakening grenades felt redundant.
Now that I have my Slayer’s with Repulsor, let me tell you this…pure Nightstalker is WAY better for this than Prismatic Hunter and here’s why: 1. DEVOUR is an option thanks to Echo of Starvation. It’s easy to generate both orbs and void breach, plus despite Recovery taking a hit, who cares when you keep Devour? So survivability is better off that alone. 2. Finishing moves are way more rewarding as well with the right fragments. I think many people sleep on Echo of Cessation. You release a burst of void energy that causes volatile on your enemies. On top of that mixed with Echo of Obscurity, you’ll also instantly be invis to trigger Gyrfalcons. And thanks to Cessation again, you’ll always drop void breaches on volatile kills…which goes back to 1 on easily getting Devour. And that’s all without the artifact mods. Then Slayer’s Fang added to the equation with Repulsor Brace, you keep Overshield as often as possible as long as you get those weakened or volatile kills with it. So basically you keep getting all 3 void buffs the entire time, making survivability high while also going crazy on the offense thanks to Gyrfalcon. You should try that instead of Prismatic tbh. Just my opinion.
It's not a mid or bad weapon, it's a good weapon, maybe even the second best exotic shotgun in the game, behind only the Conditional Finality (if you consider the Tractor Cannon a shotgun, then maybe the Fang comes in third place)
Slayers Fang is trying to be a Boar from Warframe. Cross go play with that gun and you’ll see this weapon is a wanna be copy of it with grenade launcher shots which was an idea that came from the Craftinin.
@@ickybobclay26 Ah yes the situational super that has been that way since inception and only having two other non grounded supers that are considered viable; is considered titan having a plethora of options on top of one build for prismatic to maintain any sort of relevancy. Got it
Hey I just had a brilliant idea I think you might like: build battles for Warframe (whenever you feel you are running out of content). Like what build is the best at adclear/solo content and so on 😂
Idk if that'd work that well tbh. Warframe builds are pretty samey in the sense of most just nuke rooms. It's also much harder to make a one for one build in that game. It'd be interesting watch tho
@cerebralassassin2185 Nowadays it's not anymore all about nukes but solo content. There are many combinations of warframes/weapons/passive boosts/arcanes/pets. Some ofc are better at doing the job than others but so are D2 builds for stuff like solo GM or Dungeons. He could make builds and decide which one makes him have more fun or makes him do content more easily solo. Tho I'm not sure he can give away plat as rewars just in exchange for a build since it's kinda against the TOS
I know you got upset on stream when I called this shotgun not the worst but not the best. I would like to explain my reasoning further. The best shotguns for PVE in the game are rapid fire pellet shotguns, with perfect paradox being the best of these shotguns. While Slayer's Fang might be the best slug shotgun in the game, slug shotguns are not competitive in the current sandbox so it doesn't matter that it's the best of it's archetype if the archetype is not very good. The slot that this shotgun is taking up is also the most competitive slot in the game requiring the energy exotic and special slots. This means that it has to outcompete options such as Choir of One, Buried Bloodline, VS Velocity Baton, and Ice Breaker. It also means you cannot use an exotic primary such as Outbreak Perfected, Revision Zero, and Khvostov. It also discourages the use of kinetic specials like Lost Signal due to ammo constraints. The legendary primaries in the kinetic slot are generally not nearly as strong as the legendary specials in the energy slot, with headstone, hatchling and kinetic tremors not being nearly as strong as the energy alternatives. This means that the opportunity cost of this weapon is extremely high and with the rest of the build suffering due to this opportunity cost. With it being a shotgun you have to play close range or have fairly weak long range options. While this shotgun might be the best within its niche its niche is not very good. Choir of One is it's biggest competitor and it's extremely hard to give up the versatility of Choir of One for very slightly better special weapon damage at close range. It's niche is not strong enough to really justify its use and I highly doubt you will consider this shotgun's use in a day one dungeon or raid race. With it having to compete with one-two-punch and trench barrel shotguns as a close range option as well I find it very hard to implement into a build. This shotgun can be categorized as fun and that's fine but I would not categorize it as being very strong.
The problem is a typical "bungie doesnt play their own game" issue where shotguns in endgame content just arent good and honestly, and I'm sorry for fans of this gun much like many others, it's barely exotic. High end legendaries easily compete. If I can only equip ONE exotic, it needs to be something truly special, and this simply isnt.
We used to have exotics like… a five-round burst pulse, a scout with crits boosting body shot damage… So to hear that a gun that - shatters into submunitions, stuns overload champs, weakens enemies, grants wallhacks, reload speed and increased precision damage - is ‘barely exotic’ is quite a take. Foh with that.
Titan build was better than the Hunter one, though I still think Gyrfalcon's is better with a different setup. There was not much special ammo regen, so Hunter was stuck with less ammo and less shotgun usage because of it. A better option would be to full commit to Gyrfalcons and run an osmosis range primary, possibly with Demolitionst.
Wow Í guess Every hunter made this build. Ik i did day 1!😂 I needs to start submitting my builds. Also this is a great alt for those of us who are still unlucky enough to get fourth horseman. I do wish the void breach projectiles was either given to us earlier or added to a later exotic. I like it & think its crap we get 30 days with it
NBP is better on strand. Repulsor brace means you don't need a void super, and you get to stack Void Overahield, banner of war, and woven mail, to become truly unkillable
Bro it is so refreshing to hear a creator actually praise this exotic and destiny in general I’m getting a little tired of the negativity especially cause I am LOVING this new weapon
I don't think you were supposed to use golden gun bro. cuz all the mods are harmonic and you don't got a single solar weapon. I think it's meant to be tether.
I feel if you're gonna run no backup plans, wouldn't you want LoA or a shotgun with another damage perk like trench barrel or 1 2 punch? Like don't get me wrong, its a good gun just feels like it doesn't provide a unique enough experience to warrant running over something else.
Ima warlock main and i have a NASTY build for it. With artifact mods this weapon is cracked!!!! People must not be able to build with it. I have over 1.2k bodies already on it. 3 shot anti barrier. Overloads don't stand a chance. But hey I'm off meta mainly. This shotgun is crazy. Granted fully unlocked and crafted but I love this shotty
What does he say at 16:13?? Doesn’t know if he has a good what? And people are bugging saying that Shotty is mid! It’s an amazing Shotty and gets even crazier when you build into it!!
I'd just run void warlock with Nezarec's Sin and whatever primary i want/need and edge transit and just go brrr between auto loading/ bait and switch, and cascade point on slayer's fang.
I feel that people are just saying it’s mod because the state of the game right now. So everything feels kind of mid. That saying as a warlock main I actually like using this shotgun. I’ve been using it on the prismatic turret build with getaway artist instead of buried bloodline some with the current artifact you can get devour with void kills. Just haven’t unlocked the catalysts so with repulsor brace I’m sure there would be more survivability
At 2:32, Harmonic mods are shown, on Helmet, arms and chest. This makes no sense, If Golden Gun is chosen super, while running a Kinetic weapon and two Void weapons. Might someone explain this?
I still enjoy Destiny for the gunplay and the movement, it's the activities and QoL that are lacking for me. The new mission being buggy af encapsulates my qualms with the game, but when it works, IT WORKS.
Good to see Shaw Han branching off into Titan now and then
Ah yes, my favorite warlock main is back again with another banger.
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@bushido6882 🤢🤮
@@bushido6882 don't need to tell us that you're gay
@bushido6882 no.
Exactly!
I will personally say, I have been using a variant of the Hunter build. Works way better on pure Void rather then prismatic. It's kinda a pain to proc devour on Prismatic so you end up losing out on a lot of the artifact's benefits. Plus my void build can help me leaning into finishers for the invis for the double extra damage (Echo of Cessesion plus the Artifact perk Debilitating Wave)
I literally just posted this same sentiment before I noticed ur genius comment. Plus on higher end content I need to be able to 100% control when I go invis & not have to rely on a debuffed kill when I’m one shot.
agree with you both. build is just overly better with og invis. havent taken it off my hunter since the slayers drop
@@CyberZero232 submit it. 🍆 Bet.
Bro is goated for rocking echo of cessation. Free void breaches left and right for simply playing the build normal. Very slept on fragment
Facet of awakening spawns void breaches, and all you need to start the loop is 1 void breach and then 1 group of at least 3 red bars, then it's self sustaining as every 1 kill refreshes devour
Slayer's Fang is nuts! I'm digging it with no back up plans. It destroys!!
I really like your build battle series
Glaze
@@stabby8315 people arent allowed to enjoy stuff, what a sad life.
@ bub I’m joking ☹️
@@stabby8315oh HAHAHAHAHAHA THAT WAS HILARIOUS
@@rhyshuber9981 HAHAHA YOU SAYING THIS WAS HILARIOUS, I CANT STOP LAUGHING
The live raw of this build battles was hilarious
i understand we're all in "this game sucks" mode but i dont understand anyone calling this gun mid. its not meta-shifting or broken by any means, but i think its a good gun
Not meta shifting nor broken.......that's literally the definition of mid, it's in the middle lol
@@jacobknopp0 believe it or not there are more ways to classify how good a weapon is than just broken, dogshit, and mid lmao. there is a zone between "meta-shifting" and "mid" and that is where this gun is
This community is so bipolar. When the game is bad, they become so negative about every little thing and they discount anything good that happens
@@udontknowme00 And for your only exotic weapon it isnt worth equipping when meta-shifting weapons exist
@@udontknowme00 So mid-mid?
Jokes aside I think the one sort of issue I have is that we JUST had another exotic Void weapon last season that's arguably much better than what this shotgun provides. Between this and the Choir of One there aren't very many reasons to really use this over it.
The short reload time is probably what i like the most. Just throws all 7 rounds in there.
Maximum blow they load potential
Super underrated aspect of it for sure.
Can we just admire the serendipity of Cross taking his GG shot as Variks says ‘alert snipers on the field’ and the comedy gold of him missing as Variks says ‘correction…’
Honestly, the shotgun is good, but it COULD be better...
I’d care more about it if it had one two punch or pugilist
My biggest problem with the weapon is Loose Change and Stats for All serve the same role. One of those should be swapped out for Discord or Lead from Gold to help with ammo economy.
Discord would’ve been the nuts on this shotgun
You can say that about a lot of weapons
I run this with a kinetic discord shotgun and NBP but I do wish the exotic had Discord itself so I could never run out of ammo.
The issue I have with Slayers is that it's gonna blow when Old Gods Rite is gone. I think they should just roll it into the weapon.
Edit: I didn't mean to imply the gun was trash, just that it'll suck when old gods is gone because I liked the pairing. Hindsight could've worded it better, but whatever.
No it won’t blow. It does really good damage. With cascade point it does more than the fourth horseman. So really good damage plus it automatically weakens and intrinsically stuns overload champs. Can also give an overshield with repulsor brace etc. How tf is that trash or it blowing? It doesn’t need old gods rite to be good smh.
Completely forgettable artifact mod perk
@@hatchell18 I never meant to say it was trash. I just said it blows it was gonna leave cause I liked it paired with it.
Maybe I worded it wrong, but I thought saying it's gonna blow when old gods are gone meant that it sucks that it'll go.
Old Gods Rite? 😅
Bruh, what you smoking? It gives you 18k damage upon picking up void breqch... Absolute trash
I'm currently loving this shotgun with Gyrfalcons. It's a good balance of add clear and chunky enough damage at the same time.
Shoot an Overload champ and stun and then mag dump it, while you're mag dumping the scattering pellets would hit adds at the same time clearing up the place.
I usually run it with spirit of foetracer and gyrfalcons class item.
14:20 cross missed 90% of those super shots and now he’s trying to explain why he stopped using it, to make sure the weapon shines! Lmao 😂
This is exactly the entertainment we all come back here for.
The issue I felt with no backup plans was the survivability. Even with devour and void overshield every kill it just feels like you get shredded so fast in GM content if you miss one shot. Void overshield really needs some sort of damage resistance.
Overshields have like 70% DR now. The problem is that enemies in pinnacle content couldn't care less and shred through a full bar in under a second. Combine the timer and not a lot of convenient ways to replenish them it's no mystery why they're still arguably worst survival tool in the game.
MISS A SHOT?! Skill issue. FR though, I feel ya. I also have ED.
This guy never fails to post at the best times lol.
It’s basically Deterministic Chaos as a Shotgun. No cooldown period between rounds, but, with an added step to get a fb.
I actually tried out no back up plans because of anti barrier shotgun, it slots into that build nicely
Wow this video was so great! Good job Cross!
This video was infuriating. As it included the word hunter, which is a trigger word for many.
6: 32 Ya I noticed that for a while now, there are some enemies that can see you even when invis. I have been sneaking on a mini boss and a random sniper take me out like the hell.
Other time just like this a knight walk right up to me a melees me. It is annoying invis only really works on red bars it seems these days.
They also seem to target your last visible location so I like to move away from where I popped invis. Did notice tho that the first boss in warlords ruin still does his stomp if I pop invis far away and get close to cap a totem which is weird
Using Choir of One, of course
been waiting for this ❤
The gun itself is not mid. Void is mid, the synergies are clunky and when making a void build you always end up either tripling up on 1 synergy that doesn’t amount to anything or being 1 fragment away from a genuinely good build with multiple synergies like other elements.
I played void last night for first time in a while and felt incredibly underwhelmed. I prefer the shotgun with other subclasses like my stasis fealty build.
I feel like this weapon was designed specifically with No Backup Plans in mind. I love it.
I've been loving this shotgun + no backup plans build its finally taken me off monte carlo + second chance for pure void titan.
Hunters can keep choir for their gyrfalcons build, I'll be running this for the next month
I watch the live stream Jesus Christ just trying to get a build to start this was ridiculous an hour wasted hour and a half
with the shotgun build, sure the new shotgun is pretty good but imo repulsor brace on a shotgun with no back up plans is redundant. Once the overshield is up, successive shotgun kills already refund the overshield. When running nbp I use a long range weapon with destabilizing rounds + repulsor brace (I use elsie's rifle). This allows you to run a primary shotgun of your choice and then legend of acrius. Twice as much shotgun amo, and acrius is already great on it's own (assuming you have the catalyst), with a 35% dmg buff it melts and you can save it for yellow bars too. Also by using a long range weapon to get an overshield this allows you to swap bastion for controlled demo so you can make stuff volatile with your melee before hitting them with a shotgun (run trench barrel or 1-2 punch)
So my four year old yelling "Boom Get Wrecked" when Cross destroyed the Hive Wizards on the No Backup Plans Build has been the highlight of my morning so far 😄😄😄
Matchmaking DOES need to be on everything! You'll get terrible fireteam members sure, but you'll also get awesome ones too & sometimes rubbish is better than none!
Built my own shotgun loadout last night and was speeding through almost all content. I’m not a buildcrafter so I’m sure it’s not perfected but I’m really enjoying this shotgun. It’s giving me Graviton Lance vibes with a little extra punch. My only issue is ammo.
Slayer's Fang seems fairly serviceable, but right now, I don't see a lot of reason to use it over Choir of One if you're going for a potent Void-only or Void-focused Prismatic build, unless you really want to lean into it with No Backup Plans (which does look quite spicy to be fair). I have a Scars/Severance class item for my Titan, and pairing Choir of One with Destabilizing Rounds with that just feels great, and is less risky to run in terms of positioning because of Choir's range. Plus, Choir is already kind of a shotgun hybrid with its hipfire. I like the idea of Slayer's Fang, but Choir of One just feels that much easier and more effective to use. Also, I get to name that build Choir of Scars, which sounds awesome haha
Gyrfalcon+foetracer+primary gun with osmosis ❤
Been watching Cross's YT for a long time and only recently started watching the twitch so I can build up eggplants and give him THE BUILD of all time
I feel like no one runs foetracer gyrfalcon, albeit I’m over it cause I’ve used it so much since it’s like consecration titan, but volatile auto procs foetracer so you just automatically get the 25% damage buff for free anytime you leave invisibility which is spoiler alert all the time. I ran it with Heartshadow and it A T E. Run it with Slayers Fang and it’ll cook in my eyes.
Prismatic hunter
Winter shroud to prevent stomp mechanics.
Grapple in
Ascension out
Smoke melee with radiant while in air.
Unload with slayers fang.
Most bosses die before your magazine is empty.
The shotgun is pretty good. Unfortunately a lot of players don't know what a special weapon is or how to make a loadout without two primary weapons.
Shotguns are pretty good in pve but most players won't use them..
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As a hunter main this still looks fun as hell to run for my titan
You should use class item foetracer/gyrfalcon. You'll get the damage you want
The hunter build is nice but I feel like golden just isn’t being used enough to justify having it on so I’d switch that to tether or honestly threaded specter since it cooks after the buff to roaming supers and woven mail with repulsive brase over shields is very nice. Also for some damage you should absolutely be running the radiant fragment and be chucking shurikens every where which will proc radiance and your invis while also improving the damage of the shotgun. This shot gun pairs so nicely with most mask of fealty builds and tbh the gyrfalcon volatile isn’t really needed.
The main problem with Slayer's fang is. Its a shotgun i dont see many people using shotguns in endgame stuff and last episode we got a void special weapon that is easier to use and doesnt need setup to take full advantage of. that exotic being the choir of one
Look at endgame speedruns...
@@leDevLVOk and again this weapon needs set up to make it work effectively it can be good without it's weakened effect it can't do much outside of damage which in endgame content isn't exactly enough to handle that
When it comes to the Titan build, Repulsor Brace is just too redundant. No Backup Plans already gives you Overshield for just killing 2 Red bars or 1 Powerful.
True, but I feel like it helps maintain it or top it off a lot, and in case of emergencies if need be
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Great battle. Hunter for life but this Titan build looks fun…
Honestly I'm loving the gun. Sure it's not meta but it's still a solid option and makes some fun builds.
Doom fang works well too, no native 35% buff but it ramps up to 25% with a could void kills or a melee kill plus it buffs sentinel a bit.
Am I crazy or doesn't no backup plans already give you overshield every kill after the first orange bar? Wouldn't repuslor brace be pointless here?
You don't even need to kill an orange bar. Literally, the only enemies that don't guarantee you an overshield are the weakest. Your thralls, dregs, war beasts, etc. Against them you'll need to kill a whopping 2.
Cascade point would be much better it’s the best perk on the gun
Hunter invis isn't actually invis. It more works in a way so as to prevent the enemy from engaging you, but sometimes they didn't get that memo. Definitely needs to be tweaked, invis should be invis.
Im glad even tho the game was at its lowest,we still got build battles:D
I had a very similar build to the Titan in this video but instead of weakening grenades I had the low health overshield fragment and suppressor grenades. With the amount of weaken slayers fang puts out the weakening grenades felt redundant.
Never in my life did I ever think my favorite exotic would make it here BUFF NO BACK UP PLANNNNNNSSSSS
I have hopped on the warframe hype train that game is amazing
Bruh, I feel like anti barrier shotgun slaps. I use it whenever there are barrier champs!
I really need to buy no back up plans and get this shotgun, they look fun together
Now that I have my Slayer’s with Repulsor, let me tell you this…pure Nightstalker is WAY better for this than Prismatic Hunter and here’s why:
1. DEVOUR is an option thanks to Echo of Starvation. It’s easy to generate both orbs and void breach, plus despite Recovery taking a hit, who cares when you keep Devour? So survivability is better off that alone.
2. Finishing moves are way more rewarding as well with the right fragments. I think many people sleep on Echo of Cessation. You release a burst of void energy that causes volatile on your enemies. On top of that mixed with Echo of Obscurity, you’ll also instantly be invis to trigger Gyrfalcons. And thanks to Cessation again, you’ll always drop void breaches on volatile kills…which goes back to 1 on easily getting Devour.
And that’s all without the artifact mods. Then Slayer’s Fang added to the equation with Repulsor Brace, you keep Overshield as often as possible as long as you get those weakened or volatile kills with it. So basically you keep getting all 3 void buffs the entire time, making survivability high while also going crazy on the offense thanks to Gyrfalcon. You should try that instead of Prismatic tbh. Just my opinion.
I got a strategist pulse rifle with a briarbinds lock and this shotgun kinda eats with it
shotgun is really fun on that titan build ngl
NBP should work with all shotguns, not just void
It works with all shotguns, you just have to run a void super.
For my fellow protein powder enthusiasts, use this with a harmony rolled primary. I like New Purpose from Duality personally
This would be great with a peregrine greaves shield bash build
It's not a mid or bad weapon, it's a good weapon, maybe even the second best exotic shotgun in the game, behind only the Conditional Finality (if you consider the Tractor Cannon a shotgun, then maybe the Fang comes in third place)
27:23 "I would play more if it was matchmade"
*fireteam finder*
too hard, saw a post on twitter saying FF empty but its just nb wasnts to make posts😭😭
@ dumb as all hell that is.
Basically have the same hunter build except gryfalcons with foetracer. Makes the shotgun much better
Slayers Fang is trying to be a Boar from Warframe.
Cross go play with that gun and you’ll see this weapon is a wanna be copy of it with grenade launcher shots which was an idea that came from the Craftinin.
The shotgun is getting hatred because Titans got a little bit of favor this season with the exotic. Let's be honest with each other. 😂
Titans super also does 5x more damage than the other stasis supers so let’s not act like titans are suffering
@@ickybobclay26 Ah yes the situational super that has been that way since inception and only having two other non grounded supers that are considered viable; is considered titan having a plethora of options on top of one build for prismatic to maintain any sort of relevancy. Got it
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As a warlock main that doesn't really care for shotguns. I'm actually having fun with the shotgun even on warlock
Hey I just had a brilliant idea I think you might like: build battles for Warframe (whenever you feel you are running out of content). Like what build is the best at adclear/solo content and so on 😂
Idk if that'd work that well tbh. Warframe builds are pretty samey in the sense of most just nuke rooms. It's also much harder to make a one for one build in that game. It'd be interesting watch tho
@cerebralassassin2185 Nowadays it's not anymore all about nukes but solo content. There are many combinations of warframes/weapons/passive boosts/arcanes/pets. Some ofc are better at doing the job than others but so are D2 builds for stuff like solo GM or Dungeons. He could make builds and decide which one makes him have more fun or makes him do content more easily solo. Tho I'm not sure he can give away plat as rewars just in exchange for a build since it's kinda against the TOS
I’ve been trying to make a briarbinds build with this thing. It’s pretty fun, but there’s still a ton of kinks for me to iron out.
Submunitions should’ve made targets volatile and it should be anti barrier.
Is this season worth buying with only 20 ish days left or should I wait till the next
I know you got upset on stream when I called this shotgun not the worst but not the best. I would like to explain my reasoning further. The best shotguns for PVE in the game are rapid fire pellet shotguns, with perfect paradox being the best of these shotguns. While Slayer's Fang might be the best slug shotgun in the game, slug shotguns are not competitive in the current sandbox so it doesn't matter that it's the best of it's archetype if the archetype is not very good.
The slot that this shotgun is taking up is also the most competitive slot in the game requiring the energy exotic and special slots. This means that it has to outcompete options such as Choir of One, Buried Bloodline, VS Velocity Baton, and Ice Breaker. It also means you cannot use an exotic primary such as Outbreak Perfected, Revision Zero, and Khvostov. It also discourages the use of kinetic specials like Lost Signal due to ammo constraints. The legendary primaries in the kinetic slot are generally not nearly as strong as the legendary specials in the energy slot, with headstone, hatchling and kinetic tremors not being nearly as strong as the energy alternatives. This means that the opportunity cost of this weapon is extremely high and with the rest of the build suffering due to this opportunity cost. With it being a shotgun you have to play close range or have fairly weak long range options.
While this shotgun might be the best within its niche its niche is not very good. Choir of One is it's biggest competitor and it's extremely hard to give up the versatility of Choir of One for very slightly better special weapon damage at close range. It's niche is not strong enough to really justify its use and I highly doubt you will consider this shotgun's use in a day one dungeon or raid race. With it having to compete with one-two-punch and trench barrel shotguns as a close range option as well I find it very hard to implement into a build. This shotgun can be categorized as fun and that's fine but I would not categorize it as being very strong.
I really don't like it on my Gryf build, pure void, but I love it on my pure stasis Fealty build.
The problem is a typical "bungie doesnt play their own game" issue where shotguns in endgame content just arent good and honestly, and I'm sorry for fans of this gun much like many others, it's barely exotic. High end legendaries easily compete. If I can only equip ONE exotic, it needs to be something truly special, and this simply isnt.
We used to have exotics like… a five-round burst pulse, a scout with crits boosting body shot damage…
So to hear that a gun that - shatters into submunitions, stuns overload champs, weakens enemies, grants wallhacks, reload speed and increased precision damage - is ‘barely exotic’ is quite a take. Foh with that.
it can like 3-4 taps champs in gms dude thats like whisper esc dmg
I agreed with everything he said UNTIL he said it shits on conditional finality. I’m sorry that is untrue asf i can confirm I use it a lott
Think a build with mask of quiet one or doomfang would work well with the shotty?
the warlock main has probably the most creative and carrying ideas of D2
I am experimenting both sides of prismatic and void hunter so far I like it on my void hunter with gyrfalcon I like the shotgun feels fun
Titan build was better than the Hunter one, though I still think Gyrfalcon's is better with a different setup. There was not much special ammo regen, so Hunter was stuck with less ammo and less shotgun usage because of it. A better option would be to full commit to Gyrfalcons and run an osmosis range primary, possibly with Demolitionst.
Shouldn't he have weapons of light on or does the buff cancel out with another?
I personally HATE shotguns, but slayers slaps harder than my mom when I talk back
Mask of the quiet ones hunter is nutty
I actually really like this shotgun. It's strong and it's fun. I want more fun and unique exotics, have fun with it
Anyone know what that code does in front of the pod at first encounter at the scorn organ??
the code on the blue wall to the right of the room?
I wanna try a shotgun only build now with legend of acrius
Problem is, I don't raid :s
Wow Í guess Every hunter made this build.
Ik i did day 1!😂
I needs to start submitting my builds.
Also this is a great alt for those of us who are still unlucky enough to get fourth horseman.
I do wish the void breach projectiles was either given to us earlier or added to a later exotic. I like it & think its crap we get 30 days with it
Imma be real, the reload being sexy makes this for me. Good gun.
NBP is better on strand. Repulsor brace means you don't need a void super, and you get to stack Void Overahield, banner of war, and woven mail, to become truly unkillable
What if the little portal appeared and just started shredding
Do the pellets have semi tracking? Mine are hitting targets in places I wasn't aware of and the perk procs
yeah
Shout out to cross for playing an indie game like Destiny 2
As much as I like golden gun, it's so hard to get crit shots when the enemy is moving around so much.
The warlock player is back with builds
Bro it is so refreshing to hear a creator actually praise this exotic and destiny in general I’m getting a little tired of the negativity especially cause I am LOVING this new weapon
I feel people are hating too hard on it because of overload GL this season. With the range buff to shotguns it’s gonna be a solid 7/10 forever
I just find it odd that they released a void exotic when we just had one last season.
@ that’s really fair I think a arc or stasis would’ve fit with vibe they were going for overall but hey I’m not gonna complain I think it’s fun LOL
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4there was no exotic special void shotguns is why
I don't think you were supposed to use golden gun bro. cuz all the mods are harmonic and you don't got a single solar weapon. I think it's meant to be tether.
I very rarely use shotguns but Slayers fang is top notch
I feel if you're gonna run no backup plans, wouldn't you want LoA or a shotgun with another damage perk like trench barrel or 1 2 punch? Like don't get me wrong, its a good gun just feels like it doesn't provide a unique enough experience to warrant running over something else.
THE FALL GUYS REF!!!!!
Ima warlock main and i have a NASTY build for it. With artifact mods this weapon is cracked!!!! People must not be able to build with it. I have over 1.2k bodies already on it. 3 shot anti barrier. Overloads don't stand a chance. But hey I'm off meta mainly. This shotgun is crazy. Granted fully unlocked and crafted but I love this shotty
I've been saying that forever about match-making
What does he say at 16:13?? Doesn’t know if he has a good what?
And people are bugging saying that Shotty is mid! It’s an amazing Shotty and gets even crazier when you build into it!!
Belisarius, strand aggressive pulse from comp
@@Quinsanity115I know what Belisarius is…just couldn’t make out what he was saying, lol. Thank you.
I'd just run void warlock with Nezarec's Sin and whatever primary i want/need and edge transit and just go brrr between auto loading/ bait and switch, and cascade point on slayer's fang.
I feel that people are just saying it’s mod because the state of the game right now. So everything feels kind of mid. That saying as a warlock main I actually like using this shotgun. I’ve been using it on the prismatic turret build with getaway artist instead of buried bloodline some with the current artifact you can get devour with void kills. Just haven’t unlocked the catalysts so with repulsor brace I’m sure there would be more survivability
At 2:32, Harmonic mods are shown, on Helmet, arms and chest. This makes no sense, If Golden Gun is chosen super, while running a Kinetic weapon and two Void weapons. Might someone explain this?
the reason the gun is getting hate is mostly because it's a slug and a spread shotgun.
I still enjoy Destiny for the gunplay and the movement, it's the activities and QoL that are lacking for me. The new mission being buggy af encapsulates my qualms with the game, but when it works, IT WORKS.