Doctor REACTS to BOJACK HORSEMAN #3 | Psychiatrist Analyzes "Time's Arrow" | Doctor Elliott
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This Doctor Reacts episode of Bojack Horseman is of "Times Arrow" (season 4, episode 11). This follows on really nicely from the Old Sugarman Place and we get to learn lots about Alzheimer's disease - the most common form of dementia.
Bojack Horseman is one of the most real and realistic shows I have encountered when it comes to talking about how the mind works, and demonstrations of illnesses like depression, addiction and borderline personality disorder.
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That moment when he takes pity on his mom, after he swore he was going to curse her out and leave her...it makes me tear up every time. So much of this show is about being trapped in cycles, and seeing one broken is so powerful.
That scene gets so much more tragic when you realize beatrice never tasted ice cream (as far as the audience knows) breaking the illusion BoJack was setting up for her in that moment.
@@0tterhead Ice cream is a boy treat so Beatrice has never had it. You can see the struggle on her face when Bojack asks her if she can taste it. It's so heartbreaking because she has no idea how it tastes but is trying.
@@Bracketmeister Didn't her mum once give her an Ice cream after she'd been lobotomized?
@@LilySaintSin Oh, did she? It's been a while since I've seen the show so I don't remember everything. I think it's more sad if she'd never had ice cream, but if she had then I guess she might just not remember it well.
@@Bracketmeister I remember she licked a freezy pop at the place where honey sang and got drunk.
The ending always gets me bc she's never had icecream, just sugar on a lemon. Yet, she goes along with his lie.
she had icecream when her mom had her breakdown. But I think it did trigger a bad memory on her head as you can see her eyes be a bit sad when she tries to “taste the icecream”
@@cristiadu plus I don’t think the one she had was specifically vanilla, the one she eats is orange.
@@cristiadu it was a sort of popsicle if I remember correctly. Either way, still sad :/
She realizes that is a lie because of it, her voice lost intensity when she talk about the ice cream at the end, that's sadder
I always cry when she says "it's so...... delicious"
She really had to imagine what it would taste like
I think it would be neat to look at Diane's struggle with her depression and how she came to define her creativity with her pain
Yes! Diane's story helped me to go on an antidepressant 😊
@@ellipszilonq I'm very happy for you. My partner was able to use Diane's decision to start antidepressants as an inspiration for their own prescription. They've never been happier. Sometimes you just need to be told it's okay via the example of someone you care about, even if it's a fictional character.
Legit I knew what I was looking toward with Diane. My therapist insisted that I didn’t need meds. She was incorrect.
Absolutely! Before the episode where they get trapped in the house due to a cave in, I used to not like Diane because I thought she was always holier than thou. But in and after that episode I related to her to the core, especially the "why can't I be happy? Am I busted?"
Johnny 2 Cellos just uploaded an analysis of Diane in "Good Damage" last week, I really recommend checking that video out as well!
I'd like to think the reason Henrietta is the only person with their face scratched over is because she is the only person who Beatrice really wanted to forget but can't so she actively tries to scribble it out of her memories.
true, her mom being a black shadow everywhere is basically her also thinking “she’s a shadow of herself”
The people who burn her toys also have scribbled out faces, probably because of the same reason
That or it may be possible that she doesn't remember what Henrietta looked like. She was "the help" and thus Beatrice never really paid any attention to her despite learning her name.
Because EVERY servant in her memories have the same "face"; this would kinda solidify that she didn't do what she did for Henrietta out of kindness OR sympathy or really any other emotion of sort but rather treated the whole "ordeal" as another errand to take care of: Tuesday: Pick Bojack up from school, send servants out for groceries, take servant's wedlock baby to orphanage, drop off dry cleaning.
I wonder about this - the workers who were burning her things also had their faces scratched out. It might be that only members of the family (her dad, husband, and son) had faces at all.
The doctors and the help that burned a her things also had scratched out faces. Those were two of her most traumatic memories
I dont think Butterscotch was truthful to either Beatrice or Henrietta. The "you remind me of my dead mom, she had that same feature" seems to be just a line he uses everytime he wants a woman to sympathize with him.
Well Hollyhock did have the diamond, and Butterscotch doesn't have it and obviously Henrietta doesn't either, so the gene must come from somewhere. Presumably Butterscotch's mother?
@@mrrenime This is a really great catch, I had never thought of that before!
@@mrrenime well, horses dont have human hair, so that might be it.
@@Nuslerosh Also, Bojack has a darker reddish brown color, and Henrietta said Butterscotch's mom had the same colored hair
Does his whole “I want to sleep with you because you remind me of my mom” thing not repulse people?
Mrs Sugarman’s lobotomy is single handedly the scariest thing to me, probably partly because of my severe depression making me worried if I lived in that time period that would have happened to me, but she’s just a ghost everytime we see her again after it, a shell of her former self
the fact that such a procedure ever existed, and how many lives it ruined... it's so horrible, it makes me sick
@@kamhidraws there isn't much else you can do with crazies nowadays you can give them drugs so they can't harm others but back then you could either lobotomize,lock away or get rid of them that's just how it was it's sad but these people can't really be helped they are just crazy
@@محمدرضاپهلوی-ذ7ع Crazy here. And speaking about mentally ill people like they're subhuman is not a great look.
@@EclecticallyEccentric i didn't say they are subhuman
@@محمدرضاپهلوی-ذ7ع schizoaffective here, medications haven’t just “stopped me hurting myself”, I haven’t experienced a full psychotic or manic episode for 4 years now. It has improved my quality of life, reduced symptoms and (along with going to therapy) I’m at a point where I’ve managed to get back into education to get my degree. Us ‘crazies’ can be helped.
As painful as it was for Henrietta to give up her baby (which was Hollyhock), I honestly believe that it worked out well. When Hollyhock finally gets to meet her mother, we find out that Henrietta did exactly what Beatrice encouraged her to do. She was able to finish college and become a nurse like she originally wanted before Butterscotch took advantage of her. And as for Hollyhock, she was raised by people who genuinely cared about her and away from the terrible toxicity of the Sugarman-Horseman clan. It was so effective in fact that Hollyhock made the very mature decision to cut Bojack out of her life after realizing that he would bring her down, setting a vital boundary for her own safety and mental health.
Hollyhock is perhaps the only member of the Horseman/Sugarman family who turned out mentally healthy.
It's still terrifying knowing that's Matthew Broderick as Joseph Sugarman. He does such a good job. "You don't want to end up like your mother now, do you?" as his ears make it look like he has devil horns. Gives me chills every time.
Bad person to play a bad person
Didn't he kill someone in a hit and run or something?
@@StoutShako Way back in the like. The 80s.
A lot of neat little animation details in this episode. When Beatrice first meets Butterscotch there are some scenes where his hand is shaped like he’s holding a drink but there isn’t one. Also he throws a cigarette and it makes a glass shattering sound. Love this show for all the little stuff they do.
I watched several times and there's always something new
Oh wow I didn't catch these details, and I've seen the show twice. I pretty much started it over and did a complete rewatch only a couple days into finishing the series, one because it's that good, and two because i knew there were tons of details I had missed. I'll be keeping an eye out for these when I do my third re-watch, thanks so much for this- love this kind of stuff ❤
I do genuinely think Beatrice had Henrietta's best interest at heart. She saw everything being with Butterscotch brought to her life and how much more she struggled....and I don't think she could let someone else struggle like that.
If she was REALLY trying to be vindictive, she wouldn't have helped in any way and been a smug butthole about Henrietta and butterscotch's predicament
I think she was doing what she thought was best according to how she was raised, which of course warped her even before her marriage.
Yes, it's the most logic and probable thing.
That's why i hated it when a youtuber made a video saying that she was just manipulative and her mind twisting it as a good-hearted act.
Like, anything to avoid thinking of her as anything more like that villain.
He doesn't know how women can feel when seeing another woman going through the same thing caused by the same man.
I agree. Beatrice's handling of Henrietta's predicament didn't feel vindictive at all to me, simply full of projections from the horrible examples set in her own life.
At this point she's already switched from being afraid and irritated by her father to idolizing him. She may actually believe that her father knew what was best for her during her traumatic experience in her childhood and is assuming that role fully believing that she knows best for Henrietta in this experience. She may even believe that she's doing a better job of it than her father did because while Beatrice as a child was very attached to her doll, she believes that Henrietta has not yet gotten attached to her child.
@@kiriki4558 I think there's a lot going on there. Bojack characters are nuanced, there's no clear "villain". Beatrice didn't get enough love from her parents, which led to her making poor parenting choices. A lot of her contempt is for Butterscotch, but she takes it out on Bojack. I have a friend whose mother is a narcissist and she's exactly like that. She keeps reminding him of the sacrifices she made, how her whole life was basically ruined, having to be his mom. She had a similar childhood as Beatrice as well. Her father was a soldier and he told her "a soldier's daughter doesn't cry". It's all very true to life. People are narcissistic for a reason.
I think Beatrice was genuinely trying to protect Henrietta. As cold and heartless she might be, I believe a small part of her is acting out of goodwill and her own regrets
That’s the only reason she helped Henrietta at all, she didn’t want her to go through what she did with butterscotch.
She didn't let Henrietta hold newborn baby Hollyhock because she didn't want her to get attached. Henrietta wanted to be a nurse and having to raise a baby would have stopped that. Beatrice paid for Henrietta to go to nursing school in exchange for putting Hollyhock up for adoption. Hollyhock didn't have a traditional family, but she still had a good one.
Bojack also says “you shouldn’t play into her delusions”, but he ends the episode playing into her delusions to try and comfort her
My late grandmother had Alzheimer's, so I imagine this is how she felt. You could see her confusion when she'd tune into reality, she would often confuse my dad with my grandfather, her stories were always from loooong ago... She eventually forgot every single one of us, but she kept asking to go to her hometown and see her mother
Such a powerful episode, thanks for looking into it :)
my great aunt had this for a long while now and yes, they practically live in the past and see in us people that are either long dead or more than likely on their deathbed themselves. She conjures up the need to go home often as well, like a child that's missing their security blanket.
You should watch the movie "The Father" with Antony Hopkins. It made me tear up since it's about that too, and my grandmother had it as well.
I knew an old lady who had it too, and she had to be put in a care facility in the end because she kept walking out of her house and trying to go "home", even though she'd lived in that house for decades. Looking back, I wonder if she was trying to go back to her childhood home with her mum and dad?
This is my absolute favorite episode, which seems weird given how dark it is, but I love how dense it is with symbolism. I notice something new every time I watch it.
Definitely agree in terms of noticing new things. It's only recently I noticed her dad's line at 3:05 is also referring to Cracker-Jack:
"It's a mother's duty to keep her children alive, and you are continually failing".
In 'The Old Sugarman Place' we saw something close to tenderness from him after Cracker-Jack's death, but then he actively distanced himself from those feelings when he couldn't handle his wife's grief. Over time, he's come to blame her for Cracker-Jack's death, presumably due to his own warped response to that loss.
Remember - Beatrice was never allowed to have ice-cream as a child - so she couldn't know how that tasted. Which makes me think - given that the ending to this episode is in one of her more lucid moments - they are both constructing a fantasy - something he knows to be, and she probably has a good inkling of being a fantsay.... But it's preferable to reality - and its the first moment of emotional intimacy they've had - and perhaps the only time in her life someone has truly done something kind and loving for her.
This episode never fails to make me bawl my eyes out... I love it.
Something that always gets me about this episode is when Bojack realizes he can hurt Beatrice like she did to him for so long, but he just can’t bring himself to do it. His expression is so telling. Despite everything he’s done and all the people he’s hurt, that was the moment that I believed Bojack could be better, so long as he worked at it.
The scene where bojack comforts his mom makes me so emotional. He swore to hollyhock he'd get revenge in one of her wake moments and him showing compassion, kindness and growth towards his mom instead of revenge makes me believe he isn't a lost cause after all
It's funny, and I never realized before watching this video, but seeing it juxtaposed I made the connection - Bojack says, "Some people like silly stories," and his mother says, "Fat lot of good they ever did me." And at the end of the episode, he tells her a story, and it brings her peace and some comfort - even though she knows it's not real. Just an interesting little commentary on how we use stories and escapism to cope with life, and how in the end she appreciated his storytelling after all.
Good point. I think she said that because she blames the silly store her and Butterscotch told each other about moving to California for the way her life turned out.
i think what is so good about this episode soecifically is that everyone perpetuating these awful abusive cycles really believes they’re doing what’s best for the other person. as fucked up as Beatrice’s dad is, he seems like he really is attempting to be a good father (by trying to set her up with a man who will give her the lifestyle she’s accustomed to, to burning all her belongings when she has scarlet fever (which i’m not sure but i assumed was a common belief about illnesses like that around the mid 40’s))
It was indeed a commonly held belief. In some cases of other illness it is a practice.
I didn't interpret it as bojacks dad going after people who remind him of his mother, but rather just a pick-up line he uses. After all, how could Beatrice AND Henrietta look like his mom? One is human and one is a horse
Henrietta "had hair like hers" - if his mother was a horse, she had a mane.
Welp hollyhock had a diamond which suggests that indeed his mom had a diamond too because how else hollyhock could have it
So he wasn't lying to beatrice
And to Henrietta maybe she had the same hair color
Awesome! I think Free Churro would be a good one, if you ever have the time, to close out looking at Beatrice but through the eyes of her son. It's an interesting look at the conflicting emotions that come with the death of a family member.
I really hope he does it and I agree... it seems likw a logical choice to do next to follow through on these discussions about family, trauma, etc.
@@lamujerdegatos It is. And I know that I'm requesting for purely self-indulgent reasons, but I guess I would just find it really cathartic to hear a professional discuss his perspective of that eulogy. Because for me, and I'm sure of A LOT of other people, the reason why that episode hit so hard is, well...we have one or a few people that we have lost that we had tumultuous relationships with. And while it wasn't all always bad...it goes without saying it also wasn't always good. And that can lead to a lot of conflicting feelings once that person is gone - yes, regarding the relationship itself, but also in response to the fact that when a person passes, what dies with them is the hope and the potential for something better in the relationship we could have had with them. And that can be equally hard to reconcile with. And I think that episode really reflects on and portrays that sort of internal dilemma very well.
"I see you"
i totally 2nd this. he would have a field day analysing free churro
Waiting patiently for "Free Churro" to be analyzed
I have a few!
-Good Damage
-The View from Halfway Down
-Xerox of a Xerox
-The Face of Depression
-Free Churro
And my personal favourite episode of Bojack, A horse walks into Rehab
In the end, he is lying to make her happy and when he tells her "can you taste the ice cream?" She lies to him to make him happy. She doesn't know what ice cream tastes like. They didn't let her eat ice cream, only lemons with sugar
I feel Beatrice genuinely was well intended with Henrietta. She sounded so pained talking ab the path having butterscotch father her child lead her down. she didn’t finish school and was trapped by a verbally abusive man who in ultimately was no better than her father had been, as well as refused help from Beas family when he so obviously could barely keep them above the water. She genuinely seemed to have wanted her to not get stuck with butterscotch in her life like she did and not to be kept away from reaching her dreams/ having her own career and being able to not need another person to depend on. She wanted her to have a family but knew it should be a good man. She emphasized that to her as well that a good man was vital, which we all know butterscotch is not.
I agree with you but she did finish school. She came home with a bachelors degree
On her convincing Henrietta, I think it's also for convincing herself that clearly marrying Bojack's father and having Bojack was the reason for all her issues, if it wasn't then she'd have to admit that she chose actions and the path she's on.
Tbh Butterscotch did continue a downwards spiral in her life. She may have broken out if she didn't get with him. Been able to have the life she wanted without BoJack
@@frankfort332 I don't disagree at all, but she still had agency in the actions and she herself was a toxic individual who couldn't accept "a peasant life". I want to clarify I don't want to absolve Butterscotch of his own flaws in their relation, but more just shine a light on her being an equal partner it in all.
One of my favorite episodes. So many things going on. The part where butterscotch and Beatrice are arguing in front of Bojack and he mentions that the baby keeps crying so he can't write, and Bojack replies, "I'm not a baby, I'm six" is so fascinating to me since it gives a little glimpse into how he viewed his own son.
Also, the part before her doll gets burned and she tries to get close to her dad but he backs away was a nice touch. The little details like that are what make this show such an amazing experience.
That’s interesting, I always thought Bojack saying he’s six and not a baby anymore was a reflection on Beatrice’s mind altering the narrative once coming across a contradiction. Her mind slowly realizes this takes place in a later time. This is kind of similar to how later in the episode, Butterscotch mentions he’s groveling “hat in hand”, at which point a hat distorts and appears in his hand that wasn’t there before.
Things change with the characters as Beatrice remembers more and more details
Also just noticed Bojack's dad wasn't even there during the birthing process to help her. I've seen this episode10 times and never caught that.
Fathers were traditionally not allowed at the birth, and were only admitted in once the baby was born. That might be the reason with Bojack's birth. With Henrietta, he would have stayed away because he couldn't deal with his emotions. He had to ask Beatrice to deal with it, after all.
oh man this ep makes me sob uncontrollably every time I watch it and apparently that's still true when it's just a reaction video lol
I would LOVE for you to take a look at Good Damage - Diane's journey on working through her trauma and getting the help she needed, the fear of losing her creativity if she isn't "broken", the little touches like the weight gain, it really resonated with a lot of people and I think they did an amazing job with it
I was really concerned about the weight gain aspect, but they wowed me with the whole, she's still Diane but she isn't depressed anymore. No one seemed to care about her weight. I loved that.
12:41 "It must be pretty distressing"
I think what makes your channel so great is this inherent compassion that you have for absolutely everyone; the mentally ill, healthcare professionals, people who are just having a hard time. You are so kind to everyone regardless of their actions and backgrounds.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Love your videos, been watching them for a while!
I'm 26, female, never been pregnant, or married so I thought the content wasn't gonna hit hard. But, I was wrong 😅I was taken away from my birth mother and put up for adoption as soon as I was born. It's something that never crosses my mind in daily life, nor have I ever considered it a big deal. But when I watched this at @:16:16 my heart sank & I unexpectedly started to ball my eyes out. I didn't expect to learn something about my own repressed emotions, but I am glad I did. Crazy how the past can impact us in ways we can't see.
Wah wah
@@happymolecule8894 for a happy molecule, you're pretty spiteful lol
It is a wonderful episode and the whole series too. It shows how complex "people" and emotions are, how traumatized we can be and how we do need to seek help sometimes when we struggle. Episode 6 of season 5 is also awesome, please make a react video to it) And thank you for your videos! You are awesome.
Free churro is my favorite episode of the series and times arrow is a close second. Dissecting how BoJack uses humor to distract from the real emotional turmoil at first and at the same time disrespect his mother, while seeing him be unable to put that wall up and let all the painful feelings out would be interesting to see
I worked with patients with dementia for years and when I saw this episode it hit so much harder for it. I was so happy bojack did the right thing in the end.
3:02 I used to get sore throats like 3x a month because of anxiety, especially as a teenager. I would get it checked at the doctors & they would always tell me “it’s just stress” bc they couldn’t find any physical problems with my throat. Anxiety sometimes manifests physically in the most random ways for me. I even had a fainting phase bc of it.
bojack is, for me, the best piece of media ever created. All the messages, attention for believability and detail is so powerful. Bojack swore to Hollyhock he would tell his mom to fuck off next time she remembered him, but then realized she was just as scared and traumatized as he was, being super nice in her last moments with him.
Also, not sure if that’s a real thing, but after watching this episode multiple times I think Beatrice feels guilty or remembers her mom’s breakdown on the vanilla ice cream part that bojack says, as that was the last time she had vanilla ice cream probably, triggering a single bad memory in between the sweetness of that moment with bojack.
The ice cream she had as a kid wasnt vanilla,it was one of the orange flavors.Sherbert maybe?
I used to get an upset stomach a lot while waiting for the school bus to arrive when I was a kid. Sometimes I'd physically be sick. Usually it would go away once I was excused from going to school.
I like the way they show how time in her memory get warped at 12:55 , she's in the "present" reading a book about the "future" and talking about past experiences but it's in her memory.
I like to think that the hesitation before Beatrice says “yes it’s delicious” is her being brought out of the illusion by Bojack asking if she could taste the ice cream. She never had ice cream and could never have known how it would taste. She decided to continue the fantasy by agreeing and putting herself in it again.
Love how the painting at 13:00 shifts between a family portrait from the time period Beatrice is reliving and a family portrait from her childhood. It continues to switch between the two in the background and it’s actually really cool
i always liked how they brought back the painting and connected it to something. there's an episode very early on in season 1 where bojack trashes his house during a party with sarah lynn and there are partygoers drilling holes in the wall through said painting and bojack doesn't seem to care very much
Oh my god I hope you react to the episode "That's Too Much, Man" sometime, it's so gut-wrenching to see Sarah Lynn and Bojack on their bender, and how he constantly dismisses what she talks about because he's so caught up in his own issues. Especially at the end...
I honestly believe that when Bojack asked Beatrice if she could taste the ice cream, she snapped out of her hallucinations and realized Bojack was lying.
The face she makes and the pause just tells how she knew what was happening.
I think she realized Bojack was trying to help her, so instead of lashing out, she went along with it.
I lost my grandfather a year ago but it felt like I had been losing him for 10 because of his dementia. Watching this episode hits so hard because for so long members of my family just assumed he was a potato because he couldn't interact with them. Bojacks pity and guilt at the end is so real
As someone who has watched and rewatched bojack over and over and over... I think Beatrice making Henrietta give away Hollyhock was full of genuine concern. She views her father as the one person who helped her (despite him causing her extreme trauma) and viewed her baby dolls loss as a gift from her father. She deeply regrets having bojack, and feels naive for letting a man like that fool her into thinking he'd love her and her baby. She let her husband ruin her life and happiness with a baby, and she couldn't let him do it again. Did she do the right thing? No. But does SHE think she did the best possible thing for Henrietta? Yes. I fully believe that was one of her only decisions she never regretted.
You just uploaded this so you might see this: I love your bojack reviews and your insight on mental health has been helpful to me over the past few months. Thank you for your videos :)
What I love is that my disturbing mind immediately saw scarlet fever and burning toys in the same episode and had flashbacks to one of the most traumatizing books of my early childhood. Not sure if it was intentional or not though. If it was, someone must have felt really clever for slipping in a Velveteen Rabbit reference.
I'm just really curious if Joseph's misconceptions about scarlet fever were something that was believed to be a fact in the 1940s/1950s or if his knowledge was already outdated. I wouldn't be surprised if he had traumatised his daughter simply because he couldn't be bothered to consult a professional and just did something that his grandparents did or the such. It would also fit the analogy between the episode and Henrietta's delivery nicely. Both Joseph burning Beatrice's toys and Beatrice forcing Henrietta to give up her child were concerned with the practical side and completely ignored the feelings of people involved because feelings were stupid. "The practical side" being based on ignorance would add a nice extra layer.
4:19 "amphetamine or something or some sort of weight loss supplement" - back in the time period depicted there those two were the same thing, apparently. Doctors used to prescribe amphetamines such as benzedrine to their female patients as a weight loss supplement, but I'm sure you already knew that. I only learned that playing a videogame set in that era
You also have to react to "Free Churro" it gives a lot of insight into Bojacks childhood and how he sees his parents. it‘s definitely my favorite episode
can we please take a second to talk about how good your videos are? the quality is amazing, the content is really interesting and good, the way you analyze these Bojack episodes is fascinating, and you still add a little humor.. your channel is truly a gem! thank you so much for a the work and passion you put through your videos, i love them!! keep being amazing
Btw Beatrice was never allowed to eat ice cream so she doesn't know what it tastes like, you can see on her face when Bojack asks if she can taste it that he broke the illusion but she still goes along with it anyway for no one's benefit but his.
I love these videos. The Old Sugarman Place and Time’s are such powerful episodes and I love seeing the breakdowns you’ve done to explain the science behind what’s on screen. One thing I noticed that I’ve never seen before. In the conversation between Beatrice and her husband that starts at 12:46, there is a painting in the background that becomes the background a few seconds later. It’s a family portrait that is slowly morphing back and forth between images of her family when she was a child and her with Cracker Jack and Bojack.
Bojack is a masterpiece of a show, showing the complexities of mental illness, I think it’s a must watch and the fact that a doctor can break it down and say it’s accurate just tells you everything about the show. IMO, I think the mother was being compassionate in her own sick way to the maid.
Something about Henrietta’s scream gets me. I can’t even have children but that just hurts horribly
I think it’s beautiful that all the stuff that bojack horseman did and went through; he still sympathized with his mom.
My parents put me on a diet at a young age, my brothers cake me tub of lard every day until I graduated and it took me years to realize how I'm still carrying those words and actions to this day. It's so hard to not be so critical about every inch of myself when it was always a topic of discussion.
I have heard a lot of debate over whether or not it was okay to not let her hold the baby. It's actually common practice because you start feeling emotional and might want to keep the baby and that decision might not be the best for you or the child. I think Bojack's mom was being sincere when she was talking to the maid.
It was a fairly common folk belief that for some conditions like scarlet fever items the person touched a lot had to be destroyed. Its vividly described as well in a children's book from the 1920's called the Velveteen Rabbit.
I love these, thanks doc
the last moment when bea lies about the vanilla icecream flavour (cuz she never had it) just crushes my heart everytime... it feels like the last little touch of humanization a character can have to portrait a perfect complex human being. as the doctor was said, "i am not quite sure about the intention", this show is so incredible it can make you, for ages, still thinking about what each moment was really about... did she lied the entire thing after realising she was at a strange place? or was that just a flicker of self doubt? this is just gold, geezzz
Stroke survivors have memory issues I think. I'm not a doctor. I'm a caregiver for my mom though and moved cross-country to live with her. I don't think I can watch Bojack but I appreciate the exposure I get through videos like yours. Christ that ending destroyed me.
I love this show so much.
Ive cared for dementia patients for about 8 years now and I feel like this episode just nails it. It's such a heartbreaking but eye opening episode.
This episode always resonated with me. Especially the ending where bojack talks about him and his mom being in their lake house. It reminded me of my last moments I had with my grandfather with dementia and I said similar things such us as having a bed and breakfast while on a holiday when he was in the hospital.
I’m rewatching BoJack and this episode floors me every time.
When the show was first released; by Season 4 I think a lot of us were starting to tire how the show was really focusing on the dark themes and losing the fun stuff. But this episode was so well made and ends so hopeful that I was forever hooked.
Definitely check out that's too much man, the view from halfway down, and free churro
The word prosopragnosia is new to me. Interesting to watch until the end of this reaction video 😊
I think I mistyped the word “prosopagnosia”
love this series
Me tooooo
Man, the end of this episode always makes me cry like a little bitch... Great reaction, Doctor! :)
‘If you liked that episode’ - well, I cried as much as I did the first time around… thanks… seen lots of alzheimer's. I find informative videos like this to be a comfort. Understanding.
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"That hits you a bit, doesn't it?"
Me: already crying heavily into a tissue
Something we were taught at the retirement home is that when someone is in advanced stages, it can be better to lie. You dont want someone learning their spouse is dead every time they forget, or thinking theyve been taken somewhere thats not their home. I dont know if its just because he knows the type of pain Beatrice is feeling, but somehow Bojack made one of the healthiest decisions hes ever done by telling her the story about Michigan.
This episode definitely calls up tears
My favorite series! Plz do more bojack 😎
This is actually my favourite episode of TV of all time, and I love to see the shit analysed out of it. Bojack had many, many amazing episodes (The View From Halfway Down, The Old Sugarman Place, Free Churro and Fish Out Of Water were especially incredible), but Time's Arrow is on another level entirely. The only episode of TV I can think that even comes near to it is Ozymandias.
I love how they take advantage of being animated in this episode.
Ey I had teh exact same thought with her motivations for telling Henrietta not to keep the child might also be her punishing her deep down. But I also had the thought that it might just be both reasons. Great videos.
The "now" gags about how he hates his mom are brilliant
Aaahhh!!! I love Bojack and really wanted your reaction to more on Beatrice! She’s my favorite character (horrible human - horse? - being, but fascinating character!)
I liked your analysis of Beatrice's dementia and how it is shown through her shifting memories. I agree that Beatrice's motivations for persuading Henrietta to give up Hollyhock may not have been completely pure. Given her deeply buried resentment and fear of her father, I wonder if Beatrice's warning to Henrietta, "Don't let *that* man poison your life like he poisoned mine," was her projecting her anger and blame on both her husband AND her father for ruining her life.
Having watched the "View from Halfway Down," I'm reminded of 'Herb' telling Bojack that "the brain has to do what it needs to do." This makes me wonder if "Times Arrow" is essentially Beatrice's brain doing what it needed to do to prepare for her transition to death.
I would absolutely love to see you reacting to just about any video by Howard Dully, one of the very last people to have a lobotomy. He wrote an autobiography about it and just seems like a truly remarkable person. He has a video about his journey to learn about what happened to him as a child, and another where he is reading from his book.
I actually do believe that Beatrice was trying to get Henrietta to do what she thought best based on her past experiences and her extremely warped perspective. Because at the start of her conversation she started of sounding quite indifferent, before becoming kinda angry when telling Henrietta about how much she regretted her relationship with butterscotch and her decision to go through with her pregnancy. And while I think both of these could be considered to be slightly insincere, at the very end of her conversation she losses this anger and just sounds sad and beaten down as she is pleading with Henrietta to not make the same mistakes as she did, and to not through her potential life away for someone else
This was easily the best episode of Bojack Horseman! Right in the feels...
The ending of this episode always makes me tear up. The fear of my parents becoming so incoherent and frightened only to remember me for a second and feel afraid is terrifying to me. I don’t think I will ever have strength for that
this is my favorite, favorite episode and i'm a mess even having had to think about it again for this long, i love bojack horseman SO much
i like the touch of Henrietta humming the song Beatrice’s mom and brother sang in the Old Sugarman Place
So happy there’s another episode! Just found your channel the other day and I have been loving it. Keep up the great work!
Oh this is a welcome surprise after a frustrating start. I loved Time's Arrow and it's great to hear your take on this and Beatrice's dementia. Man that's a terrifying disease.
If you're going to react to another episode I hope you do Ruthie or Good Damage
Please react to good damage! It’s a great episode exploring depression and the effects of antidepressants
Your videos are some of the most informative and positive I've seen on here. As someone who struggled with getting mental illness help for a long time, it was thanks to a psychiatrist who explained it the same way you did in another video, that getting help for brain chemistry is the same as getting it for any illness like heart or kidney. It changed my whole outlook. Bojack was an incredibly painful show to view but also hauntingly beautiful.
I'm so glad you covered this. Bojack is such a great show that masterfully deals with some serious subjects.
Excellent video Dr Carthy, your reaction videos to Bojack horseman are so informative!
Also, I really appreciated your long look to camera at the dad's statement of "reading does nothing for women but build their brains..." I'm from an era where kids, especially girls were told off for having their "nose in a book"
Bojack horseman really is so insightful!
when he said ice cream to her.. its so simple yet breaks my heart everytime
Beatrice was never allowed to have treats like ice cream when she was growing up. Her face when she's trying to imagine what it tastes like breaks my heart.
Ooof, what a heavy episode. But what a great show. The way that they represent Beatrice' dementia is genius and took real effort and research.
I feel like Beatrice convincing Henrietta to give up the baby was honest. Her emotional state in that moment was quite out of character, which indicates honesty. But she was much colder after the baby was delivered, so I could believe that misplaced revenge was part of how she handled that situation.
I love these Bojack Horseman videos!!!
I can't wait for you to make the video about Free Churro. As a resident psychiatrist I'm really interested in how psychiatrists view that episode.
I think she was living vicariously through Henrietta when she was so insistent she give the baby up. Almost like she was seeing it as an opportunity to redo her life, whether or not it was best for Henrietta, she believed it was best for her and she wanted the catharsis of seeing that reality.
I just finished the video and I'm going to call my dear friend whose father just got diagnosed with Alzheimer... He's in the early stages but they know what's coming, I can't imagine how it feels for them all...