The older I get, and the more watches I buy and wear and experiment with, the more I realize that 99% of the data I get from watches is stuff that I already know just because I know how I feel and I've learned how to read my body over the years. But having said that I'll continue buying a new watch every couple of years lol
Consider though that having the data is what allows you to know, not just feel. I am not specifically competitive but often will use the data to calibrate my feel - if I felt good but was slow then maybe something is up. Or as is more often the case I felt like I did a rubbish ride but ended up breaking a bunch of PRs then i feel a bit better about feeling bad..
Glad to see Garmin stepping up the game in prioritizing itself as the companion for running training. I hope that these features trickle down to FR945. Thank you for the great content as always.
@@kenjude1 That sadly is the truth about Garmin. Garmin hardly sells hardware. They sell software features - useful or not - bundled with new hardware. That is why there are features that are only cloud dependent and still will not work on an older device due to chosen arbitrary restrictions. One example are records for swimming. Only few new waches collect these records, even tough all of them record pool activities.
One huge quiet upgrade that no one mentions from the 245 is that the 255 and the 55 can have their back lighting adjusted. For some of us who don't have perfect vision this is huge. Coros and polar don't do it. The owners manual for the 245 says you can, but you definitely cannot.
IMO Garmin are a mess when it comes to their model line-up. So many overlapping features and variations. I feel sure they would benefit from simplifying the whole range.
Agree. I’ve been out of the multisport watch scene for a few years and looking to replace my defunct 735xt - it’s a minefield. Seriously considering a Coros
The multi-band GPS in the FR255 is a great addition but probably pisses off owners of a non-sapphire Fenix which costs twice as much. It was ridiculous to offer it exclusively in the most expensive Fenix.
I often get asked for multi sport/triathlon watches recommendations. My recommendations have been, if you’re in the Garmin eco-system, get a FR935/45 or Fenix 6/7. If you’re not then Coros Pace which is a capable watch at a great price point. I’ll now encourage those on a budget to stretch to the FR255. Thanks for the great content, as always.
The watch itself isn’t that interesting to me right now but I just had to say: that shirt man. Really brought a smile to my face early in the morning :D
Great video as always! I’ve been using the 245Music since release and the battery is just starting to fade after a few years. Will absolutely grab the 255 (but not music since I never used that feature on the 245!).
Hey, I know this is 2 years later but do you mind sharing why you never used the music feature? I am about to buy a 255 and torn between music and non music. I always run with music on my phone, and I wonder if having music on the watch will help. Thanks!
@@rajeevm1989 I run outside before dawn, it is dark all year long when I start, so awareness is important. Also, when I started running the only music would have been a literal Walkman, so I learned to appreciate the sounds of nature and some actual silence to think. And I have treasured that ever since - in a world full of noise, appreciate the silence.
@@rajeevm1989 I also have the 245 music. I have only used the music feature a few times. If I want music I just take my phone which fits in the waistband pocket of my shorts
One thing Garmin needs to address that has been a problem forever with the suggested workouts is (I don’t think) you can’t set your own pace zones. Despite having years of my data, this morning my Garmin thinks I should be doing threshold efforts at a pace I can only ever dream of. I couldn’t do the recommended pace if it was downhill, with a tailwind and being chased by a large angry dog! All that said, where 2+ years ago I decided to splurge on a Fenix 6, the new 255 does essentially all I need (especially with the barometric altimeter) and if I was buying today, I’d go with the 255 (small) over a Fenix 7
Those paces should be based off your VO2 Max and race predictions. Are they about right for you? If not look at whether your max HR on the watch is set to a realistic value for you.
Thank you thank you Ray, for this review covering GPS ACCURACY. My Fenix 5 plus is terrible at tracking: all over the place, and typically a 4% haircut! I am now looking for the best value in Garmin GPS tracking, and you nailed it in the first few minutes of this video.
As a 745 owner I am pretty disappointed, my watch was supposed to be higher tier .. I hope at least we will receive some software update with all these running stats, even if I am afraid the 745 is the new 645 and it will be abandoned soon 😫
Yeah I don’t see a long term place for a 7xx tier. It will be entry gps watch / lifestyle watch / running watch / tri watch / everything watch tiers. One model with variants in each tier.
@@SirRasor feel your pain, i was expecting hardware update on 255 but id never thought there would be so many software improvements compared to 745. I dont mind about health snapshot but hrv and training widgets are pretty useful.
@@andreamanetta4262 talking about software updates, I was expecting running power without any external units like Coros, but no. At least we have an IQ Store app for it: Running Power Estimator. Also look at the sizes: still the 745 has the best size if one has smallish wrist. The 255s is too small (at least the screen is smaller than the 745), and the 955 is still too large.
I used to wear 645 and upgraded to venu 2 this spring. There was a massive update for every watch a few weeks ago and a lot of the new watches got a long list of new features whereas my venu 2 got like 3. Lol hope I haven't bought two abandon child from Garmin
I agree... I currently own a 735XT and have been stalking the 945...then LTE... now with the price and features offered by 255, hard to argue against it. I feel for all the 745 owners though.
Th reason I am buyting this watch is that the non-music edition is the most feature-filled watch I can find that DOESNT have wifi. For those of us that work in 'secure' areas, this is a must.
Having a 245M all I ever really wanted was a bigger screen and better battery....and maybe an Altimeter for better reviews of trail runs. I've considered a Fenix 7S Solar, but this 255 and 955 really tick those "want" boxes at a lower price....the 255 especially, what a package!!(but surely the multi-band GPS will roll out to the Fenix 7 series soon) Altimeter, barometer, compass and running power is incredible. I already have an rd pod.
Great video, helping me to decide what watch to go for next! My current fitbit versa's battery life seems to be running down in around 2 days on low power mode, time for upgrade!
Is this watch worth it in 2024? I read watches only get 2 years worth of security updates. I like the 265 but i dont want to spend too much on a watch ill be replacing every 2 years. I currently have the instinct solar and looking for an upgrade.
I barely use 10% of in-built functions on my running watch and cycling computer but still considering 255 for buying. Just because of battery life and Gps accuracy. The other things do not matter
Which watch do you currently have? I have an old Apple watch and considering a Garmin watch to complement my Garmin cycling computer. A bit of a data nerd. Don't know which model yet though. Mostly do cycling.
@@VionixSpots I done exactly this a month ago! I have the Edge 1030+ and ditched my Apple Watch for a Forerunner 55! I’m over the moon with the move. The battery life is amazing for one. I’m not bothered about closing apple rings, I do miss Apple Pay but I have my iPhone. For fitness this is the odd jog here and there but mainly I use the 55 for tracking sports (football and basketball) and don’t need power etc. Sadly I can’t justify the 255 but it looks awesome and so much more involved in the Garmin eco system
@@VionixSpots Garmin Edge 130+ / Garmin Vivoactive 3. I'm not sure that u'll find even a fraction of that ton of Garmin running functions useful, but I guess its battery life is worth to replace an Apple watch
@@mvp_kryptonite Thanks for the feedback. I hesitant between the Venu 2 Plus and the 255s now. Curious to see if there's going to be a comparison review made between the 2 :)
I was just about to pull the trigger on a 245. I figure the 255 is worth the extra $150 since it will be better supported over the life of the watch in the coming years. Always appreciate your extensive and informative reviews, Ray. Crazy that I follow you for your GPS watch reviews AND your drone tests and reviews. And you do a great job on all of them. UPDATE: I got the 255S Music because it was available quicker, and although I really like it so far it's actually really tiny. I'm considering exchanging it for the 46.
@@emrback8563 I haven't trained for or raced triathlons in a long time, so I can't comment on that. For running, swimming, hiking, and even gym activities like treadmill and elliptical trainer I have found it excellent. I also find the Body Battery indicator quite accurate, although it feels like it's telling me what I already know. The sleep and recovery tracking has also been useful to me. Battery life is also quite good and I only have to charge it around once a week. And recharging is very quick. Overall I'm very happy with it, but I really haven't dived deeply into the more detailed aspects of its functions, like the different GPS settings and navigation.
Hey Ray, good job as always. Will you sum up the differences between FR255 and Instinct 2? The same price point (base versions) so probably many people will be comparing these two.
Great video, great new capabilities, could you please point out in the #955 were the differences are between the both beside solar and touchscreen ? Thanks
@@donalgibson317 yeah I was upgrading from the 245, so it would be an improvement either way. I just really REALLY love the new suggested workout/race calendar feature
Is this watch a good pick in this price range for someone who mainly does hiking and strength training as opposed to running? I was comparing it to the Venu2 and this one seems to have tons of more features but I'm not sure how useful those actually are for someone who isn't running marathons.
Check out the channel @FitGearHunter His latest video covers the 255 and 955 and that these watches are the way to go for CrossFit workouts. Great channel so check him out!
Subscribe, I just wanna know, in my country fr255 and 945 are now in the same price, what would you pick? I know 945 was your favourite for 2021 Thanks for replying
still missing non-contact charging (e.g. wireless charging) because the garmin cable sucks. Still missing a decent screen lock. (why does the lock symbol cover the screen?) still missing a navigation tool that can come anywhere near dynamic.watch still can't select gear directly in the watch? (e.g. which shoes you used) what else is missing?
Hi, I am thinking of switching from Garmin Vivoactive 4 to Forerunner 255/955, but I have concerns about the possibility of using all the functions related to the training status and measurement of effectiveness. Therefore, I am asking for your support in this regard. Until now, I have not used the Vivoactive 4 to record my runs. I will also add that I do not have a power meter in the bike. I have used the Vivoactive 4 watch for swimming, cycling (without a power meter), hiking and fitness. I'm not a runner - I don't like it. However, I want to receive more statistics provided by the new Forerunner 255/955 models: it is about measuring performance and training status (e.g. stamina, performance measurement, training status, load, training readiness, rest time, body battery, acclimatisation, etc.). I read in the manual that this data depends on the VO2 MAX. In the new models, you can independently perform the VO2 MAX test (on request) with running or cycling (with a power meter is required). However, in Vivoactive only the march was enough to make estimation; there was no need to run. Can the new forerunners also estimate VO2 max from walking? In addition, I read on Garmin's website support ("What Is VO2 Max Estimate and How Does It Work?) that if VO2 Max is not estimated from running or cycling with a power meter, VO2 max can be estimated from walking (as in VIVOACTIVE 4) or from all day heart rate. Have checked if this also apply to the forerunner 255/955 watches? I did not see any writings of this in the manuals. After two weeks of only swimming (no running, no cycling, no walking), will my VO2 max be estimated from heart rate? Will this value be taken into account for statistics related to the measurement of effectiveness and training status?
Also have the same questions. Currently looking for my first Garmin and can’t decide to buy a way cheaper Vivoactive4S or the more advanced Forerunner 255S. What do you guys think?
Thanks for the review. I currently have a 945. Will I see an improvement in features with this watch or am I better of keeping the 945? Keep up the good work!!
Awesome review! Thanks so much for all the work you do. Been waiting a while for this watch. With the pricing of the 255 music just 100 less than 955, it seems like there is no room for the 7xx series. Is that series being phased out?
Agree... And honestly... Probably a good idea on Garmin side, with the double form factor of 255 plus the double music/nonmusic versions, plus 955 with the option of solar... Everything is covered, and honestly... Streamlining the offer looks like a good idea both on a cost management standpoint and in order to have a more consistent, less confusing range, the overwhelming number of watches Garmin sells always puzzled me... A "base-mid-top" (55-255-955) kind of range makes a lot more sense. Actually, wish they did it for the Fenix as well, and contained the price a bit more... Having 50 versions all overpriced is far worst that 15 versions at a reasonable price point and easier to choose among
I've never owned a fitness watch so would be grateful for your insight: I'm leaning towards the 255s due to smaller form factor; it appeals to me that I will just forget I have it on, (particularly useful during sleep) and I would use all its features on the connect app of my phone. Is this realistic, or does one have to interact with the watch face itself? I'm not a runner, more into gym/bodybuilding, and want to use the watch for stress tracking, and overall fitness tracking over time. Thank you!
Yes it’s not a requirement to interact with the watch for most of the part, unless you’re tracking your workout or wanting to see some data quickly. A glance at the screen shows heart rate and battery life. There are data rich watch faces also available that show steps and other data I use a FR55
@DC Rainmaker Great video. Im been Garmin whole time. coros has my interest with battery life. I don’t care about music on watch. Be interested in seeing a video on your thoughts and comparison on Coros pace 2 vs Garmin 255. Sounds like Coros pace 3 might be this fall, have you heard anything? From Seen past RUclips reviews coros is behind on Garmin on app features/layout few other things, while a lot people may not are about that and just want a multi sport watch, with great battery life and simplicity. Coros ahead of Garmin on battery life and slightly lighter. Sounds like coros is working hard to catch up on all little features but keeping with better battery life….. Im trying to decide between coros pace 2 (or wait for coros pace 3 this fall) or get Garmin 255 for my 15 year old and also 13 year old (they are on swim and running team and both are gonna start doing Triathlon this summer. I’m not going to rush into purchasing watches for them, just trying to figure out when it comes time to purchase. Anyway, Always great videos.
Thanks so much. I may go for 255. The most important for me is battery lifetime in GPS mode for long distances. I am very tempted to go for 955, but the price is crazy. It says up to 30h for 255, have you tested it? I will be running couple of ~24h events and would be awesome to have my battery alive :) Thank you!
Yeah from what he said it sounded like only the Garmin devices are supported, but I’d love to get clarity on that. If it does only work with Garmin’s pod and run strap that a pretty rubbish Shimano style move from Garmin!
Have you ever tested the GPS accuracy of a normal vs "S" of the same watch? I wonder if the smaller watch has a smaller antenna and hence worse accuracy...
FR 245 is deeply Discounted compared to 255. Wonder if it’s worth spending an extra $150 for the 255. Currently using a 10 year old garmin that’s finally dying on me.
Thank you for reminding me to "whack the like button". JK your reviews and the go-to information everyone is looking for. Thanks for the info. What bands will fit the new 255 and 955? I headed toward the 955 but watched this to be sure. band sizes would help '
I am considering the FR255 for hiking and backpacking. I am comparing it to the Instinct 2, but don't like the Instinct's smaller, B/W display. Strangely, the specs for the FR255 say that it does NOT include GPS coordinates. And the Garmin Connect IQ add on of UTM coordinate display lists several FR models as being supported, but not the FR255. I just want it to display UTM coordinates so I can see where I am on my paper map. Am I missing something??
Hey DC, do you know if the vo2 for cycling can be calculated from workouts synced to Garmin connect, I use TrainerRoad and don't think I can have my pm connect to two devices.
Thx, looking forward for 255 written review and comparison to 955. Well, spotted the "Mont Ventoux vs Des(fit)" event. When is it going to take place? ;-)
one major downgrade when switching from 245 to 255 is "back to start" is "tracback" only. Missing direct to start point feature massively. Also, no option for widgets view, just glances, a bit annoying.
Congratulations for your depht review, i have a question for you: do you think Is a good idea ti replace my Swim 2 with the new Forerunner 255 especially for Openwater swimming? Thanks a lot. Best regards
hi everyone. Need an advice: my fenix5s needs a head unit replacement. for my activities, my fenix is still good enough. Just wondering if is relevant to spend some money to repair a watch of 7 year old when with double cost i can get a brand new 255. What do you think about that?
The older I get, and the more watches I buy and wear and experiment with, the more I realize that 99% of the data I get from watches is stuff that I already know just because I know how I feel and I've learned how to read my body over the years. But having said that I'll continue buying a new watch every couple of years lol
This is facts, but I think the reason we do it is more so to see it on a screen and just know that how you feel is right
And we get to graph over time too
Consider though that having the data is what allows you to know, not just feel. I am not specifically competitive but often will use the data to calibrate my feel - if I felt good but was slow then maybe something is up. Or as is more often the case I felt like I did a rubbish ride but ended up breaking a bunch of PRs then i feel a bit better about feeling bad..
Glad to see Garmin stepping up the game in prioritizing itself as the companion for running training. I hope that these features trickle down to FR945. Thank you for the great content as always.
Nobody will buy the 955 if they trickle too many of these down to the 945.
There are some features that are purely software based like the race day and training features I would like trickle down as well.
@@kenjude1 That sadly is the truth about Garmin. Garmin hardly sells hardware. They sell software features - useful or not - bundled with new hardware. That is why there are features that are only cloud dependent and still will not work on an older device due to chosen arbitrary restrictions. One example are records for swimming. Only few new waches collect these records, even tough all of them record pool activities.
One huge quiet upgrade that no one mentions from the 245 is that the 255 and the 55 can have their back lighting adjusted. For some of us who don't have perfect vision this is huge. Coros and polar don't do it. The owners manual for the 245 says you can, but you definitely cannot.
IMO Garmin are a mess when it comes to their model line-up. So many overlapping features and variations. I feel sure they would benefit from simplifying the whole range.
Yes! Deciding which model was best for me was a workout in itself.
Agree. I’ve been out of the multisport watch scene for a few years and looking to replace my defunct 735xt - it’s a minefield. Seriously considering a Coros
no wonder why people just get apple watch and call it the day
@@TheOllieDuffy same situation. Now in eu 745 price is really dropped, but I'm interested in 255 too.
Well said
The multi-band GPS in the FR255 is a great addition but probably pisses off owners of a non-sapphire Fenix which costs twice as much. It was ridiculous to offer it exclusively in the most expensive Fenix.
Totally agree
surely it'll roll out to all models soon.
You’re right
Multi-band does not have so much gain, multi-gnss is enough for me and the tests say the same. But yes, it is strange.
Non sapphire fenix 7 owners got shafted
I often get asked for multi sport/triathlon watches recommendations. My recommendations have been, if you’re in the Garmin eco-system, get a FR935/45 or Fenix 6/7. If you’re not then Coros Pace which is a capable watch at a great price point. I’ll now encourage those on a budget to stretch to the FR255. Thanks for the great content, as always.
The watch itself isn’t that interesting to me right now but I just had to say: that shirt man. Really brought a smile to my face early in the morning :D
You must be new to the channel 😉
@@81Riel Not really new, but it’s been actually a pretty long time since I’ve watched a video because I have all the devices I need 😅
Great video as always! I’ve been using the 245Music since release and the battery is just starting to fade after a few years. Will absolutely grab the 255 (but not music since I never used that feature on the 245!).
Hey, I know this is 2 years later but do you mind sharing why you never used the music feature? I am about to buy a 255 and torn between music and non music. I always run with music on my phone, and I wonder if having music on the watch will help. Thanks!
@@rajeevm1989 I run outside before dawn, it is dark all year long when I start, so awareness is important. Also, when I started running the only music would have been a literal Walkman, so I learned to appreciate the sounds of nature and some actual silence to think. And I have treasured that ever since - in a world full of noise, appreciate the silence.
@@rajeevm1989 I also have the 245 music. I have only used the music feature a few times. If I want music I just take my phone which fits in the waistband pocket of my shorts
@@andrewbell3476 Thank you both
Excellent review, thanks. Looking forward to the 255 / 955 comparison to help me decide which is best for me.
Did this ever get released? I cannot find it right now...
@@followingell Nope..
One thing Garmin needs to address that has been a problem forever with the suggested workouts is (I don’t think) you can’t set your own pace zones. Despite having years of my data, this morning my Garmin thinks I should be doing threshold efforts at a pace I can only ever dream of. I couldn’t do the recommended pace if it was downhill, with a tailwind and being chased by a large angry dog! All that said, where 2+ years ago I decided to splurge on a Fenix 6, the new 255 does essentially all I need (especially with the barometric altimeter) and if I was buying today, I’d go with the 255 (small) over a Fenix 7
Those paces should be based off your VO2 Max and race predictions. Are they about right for you? If not look at whether your max HR on the watch is set to a realistic value for you.
Thank you thank you Ray, for this review covering GPS ACCURACY. My Fenix 5 plus is terrible at tracking: all over the place, and typically a 4% haircut! I am now looking for the best value in Garmin GPS tracking, and you nailed it in the first few minutes of this video.
Glad to see this data being surfaced and actually used properly and presented well to the user.
As a 745 owner I am pretty disappointed, my watch was supposed to be higher tier .. I hope at least we will receive some software update with all these running stats, even if I am afraid the 745 is the new 645 and it will be abandoned soon 😫
Yeah I don’t see a long term place for a 7xx tier. It will be entry gps watch / lifestyle watch / running watch / tri watch / everything watch tiers. One model with variants in each tier.
Yeah I bought mine 2 months ago for the price of the 255 and it has all the features + newer sensor. Goddamn...
@@SirRasor feel your pain, i was expecting hardware update on 255 but id never thought there would be so many software improvements compared to 745. I dont mind about health snapshot but hrv and training widgets are pretty useful.
@@andreamanetta4262 talking about software updates, I was expecting running power without any external units like Coros, but no. At least we have an IQ Store app for it: Running Power Estimator.
Also look at the sizes: still the 745 has the best size if one has smallish wrist. The 255s is too small (at least the screen is smaller than the 745), and the 955 is still too large.
I used to wear 645 and upgraded to venu 2 this spring. There was a massive update for every watch a few weeks ago and a lot of the new watches got a long list of new features whereas my venu 2 got like 3. Lol hope I haven't bought two abandon child from Garmin
I just pre-ordered this watch. I'm a cyclist and it checks all the boxes for me. Especially with the multi-band.
What are some of those boxes for you? Do you have a separate GPS computer at this time? If so, how would you plan on using the 255 in your training?
how did it go, now is even cheaper and I considering for Triathlon. Cand you tell Us ?
@@emrback8563 still using it. Great watch with multi-band too.
after years of using 735xt finally there is reasonable watch to upgrade to ;-)
I agree... I currently own a 735XT and have been stalking the 945...then LTE... now with the price and features offered by 255, hard to argue against it. I feel for all the 745 owners though.
Th reason I am buyting this watch is that the non-music edition is the most feature-filled watch I can find that DOESNT have wifi. For those of us that work in 'secure' areas, this is a must.
Just picked mine up today super excited
I'm still with my 645, still rocking since 2019
Love your videos. After watching this one a few times I decided to buy the 255 and I love it. Thank you so much
how did it go, now is even cheaper and I considering for Triathlon. Cand you tell Us ?
Having a 245M all I ever really wanted was a bigger screen and better battery....and maybe an Altimeter for better reviews of trail runs.
I've considered a Fenix 7S Solar, but this 255 and 955 really tick those "want" boxes at a lower price....the 255 especially, what a package!!(but surely the multi-band GPS will roll out to the Fenix 7 series soon)
Altimeter, barometer, compass and running power is incredible. I already have an rd pod.
Is there difference in hardware (gps modul) between the multi-gnss and multi-band fenix 7 watches? I am not sure, maybe it can be updated.
I don't really need another Garmin Watch, but you've explained it to me soo well, that I have to get it 😁
Thanks for the review, was going to replace my 230 with a 245 thankfully I seen this and will hang fast and save some more pennies.
Great that Running Power and Grade Adjusted Pace also now added.
So what is the purpose of the FR745 now? After killing off the 600 series, Garmin now also makes the 700 series obsolete?
Great videos mate. Thank you for helping us choose the right watch for our needs.
Fantastic review as always. Thanks Ray!
December 2022 and the 255 now does wrist based power. I think when you did the video it was not a thing yet. Love this watch so far a month into it
Yup indeed! Added just a month ago!
Great video, helping me to decide what watch to go for next!
My current fitbit versa's battery life seems to be running down in around 2 days on low power mode, time for upgrade!
Fab content review. Decided being petite lady to go for a 46mm 255 non music
Great video. Are you planning to make a video comparing Forerunner 255 with Instinct 2?
I would also like to see a comparison between the Instinct 2 and Forerunner 255
A comparison to the 745 would be very interesting
I agree 💯
Spotted the FR955Solar. Interested to see your review 😁 looks like the 255 is an improved fr945 but better 😅
Is this watch worth it in 2024? I read watches only get 2 years worth of security updates. I like the 265 but i dont want to spend too much on a watch ill be replacing every 2 years. I currently have the instinct solar and looking for an upgrade.
If you’re worried about updates, Coros is your path. I have the 3, I chose it over the 265. Coros still updates their very oldest watches.
Well you sold me on upgrading from the 245 to the 255 in the next few months.
I barely use 10% of in-built functions on my running watch and cycling computer but still considering 255 for buying. Just because of battery life and Gps accuracy. The other things do not matter
Which watch do you currently have? I have an old Apple watch and considering a Garmin watch to complement my Garmin cycling computer. A bit of a data nerd. Don't know which model yet though. Mostly do cycling.
@@VionixSpots I done exactly this a month ago! I have the Edge 1030+ and ditched my Apple Watch for a Forerunner 55! I’m over the moon with the move. The battery life is amazing for one. I’m not bothered about closing apple rings, I do miss Apple Pay but I have my iPhone. For fitness this is the odd jog here and there but mainly I use the 55 for tracking sports (football and basketball) and don’t need power etc. Sadly I can’t justify the 255 but it looks awesome and so much more involved in the Garmin eco system
@@VionixSpots Garmin Edge 130+ / Garmin Vivoactive 3. I'm not sure that u'll find even a fraction of that ton of Garmin running functions useful, but I guess its battery life is worth to replace an Apple watch
@@mvp_kryptonite Thanks for the feedback. I hesitant between the Venu 2 Plus and the 255s now. Curious to see if there's going to be a comparison review made between the 2 :)
Great video like always. Thank you.
Great review! Thanks for your thoughts!
I was just about to pull the trigger on a 245. I figure the 255 is worth the extra $150 since it will be better supported over the life of the watch in the coming years.
Always appreciate your extensive and informative reviews, Ray. Crazy that I follow you for your GPS watch reviews AND your drone tests and reviews. And you do a great job on all of them.
UPDATE: I got the 255S Music because it was available quicker, and although I really like it so far it's actually really tiny. I'm considering exchanging it for the 46.
how did it go, now is even cheaper and I considering for Triathlon. Cand you tell Us ?
@@emrback8563 I haven't trained for or raced triathlons in a long time, so I can't comment on that. For running, swimming, hiking, and even gym activities like treadmill and elliptical trainer I have found it excellent. I also find the Body Battery indicator quite accurate, although it feels like it's telling me what I already know.
The sleep and recovery tracking has also been useful to me. Battery life is also quite good and I only have to charge it around once a week. And recharging is very quick.
Overall I'm very happy with it, but I really haven't dived deeply into the more detailed aspects of its functions, like the different GPS settings and navigation.
I hope there’s a video of this race against Des this weekend!
I suspect there will be. But I prefer to assume the last one up the mountain wins!
Hey Ray, good job as always. Will you sum up the differences between FR255 and Instinct 2? The same price point (base versions) so probably many people will be comparing these two.
Yes - that would be useful. I'm in that comparing group.
Did you decide? I’m on the fence about them too
@@Garaktys yeah, got myself a 255 because of more screen area.
@@FlyingAss Hey, Did you notice some creep in the button that are not the "Start/Stop" button?
I wish more watches added some basic scuba diving / freediving features. Like how deep, how long, and how much rest time going up... 🙏
They want us to buy the Garmin Descent :/
your eyes must still be good to see the data on a "small" watch. they have the decent line for diving
great review pal. looks like a great watch
This might be my next watch. I currently have a polar vantage v2.
how does 255 compare with 745? 745 with a discount now is cheaper than 255M.
Great review as usual.
Great video, great new capabilities, could you please point out in the #955 were the differences are between the both beside solar and touchscreen ? Thanks
Thanks Ray - excellent vid as always. Any idea if any of these features being added to the FR745 ?
Curious to the same as I just bought a 745 to take advantage of the great sale
@@tgeddes7602 Ray reckons that we won't see any of them being added. FR745 is pretty much killed off by the FR255. Serious watch for that price.
@@donalgibson317 thank you! I literally just ordered the 745 now I'm going to cancel. Had a feeling this would happen 😅
@@tgeddes7602 Always happens. Just to add - i've the 745 for almost a year and it's a great watch.
@@donalgibson317 yeah I was upgrading from the 245, so it would be an improvement either way. I just really REALLY love the new suggested workout/race calendar feature
Great job as always 👍
Is this watch a good pick in this price range for someone who mainly does hiking and strength training as opposed to running? I was comparing it to the Venu2 and this one seems to have tons of more features but I'm not sure how useful those actually are for someone who isn't running marathons.
Awesome awesome awesome. Totally agree.
Great review !!!! Garmin watches getting better and better . Is any watch coming up focus on CROSSFIT ??
Check out the channel @FitGearHunter
His latest video covers the 255 and 955 and that these watches are the way to go for CrossFit workouts. Great channel so check him out!
@@tallen316 thanks i will give it a go
Subscribe, I just wanna know, in my country fr255 and 945 are now in the same price, what would you pick?
I know 945 was your favourite for 2021
Thanks for replying
still missing non-contact charging (e.g. wireless charging) because the garmin cable sucks.
Still missing a decent screen lock. (why does the lock symbol cover the screen?)
still missing a navigation tool that can come anywhere near dynamic.watch
still can't select gear directly in the watch? (e.g. which shoes you used)
what else is missing?
Hm... after all these additions I wonder if there will be any room left for a red 755. But I guess we will see it after your 955 videos 🙂
Bought 245 yesterday :)))))))
Hi, I am thinking of switching from Garmin Vivoactive 4 to Forerunner 255/955, but I have concerns about the possibility of using all the functions related to the training status and measurement of effectiveness. Therefore, I am asking for your support in this regard. Until now, I have not used the Vivoactive 4 to record my runs. I will also add that I do not have a power meter in the bike. I have used the Vivoactive 4 watch for swimming, cycling (without a power meter), hiking and fitness. I'm not a runner - I don't like it. However, I want to receive more statistics provided by the new Forerunner 255/955 models: it is about measuring performance and training status (e.g. stamina, performance measurement, training status, load, training readiness, rest time, body battery, acclimatisation, etc.). I read in the manual that this data depends on the VO2 MAX. In the new models, you can independently perform the VO2 MAX test (on request) with running or cycling (with a power meter is required). However, in Vivoactive only the march was enough to make estimation; there was no need to run. Can the new forerunners also estimate VO2 max from walking? In addition, I read on Garmin's website support ("What Is VO2 Max Estimate and How Does It Work?) that if VO2 Max is not estimated from running or cycling with a power meter, VO2 max can be estimated from walking (as in VIVOACTIVE 4) or from all day heart rate. Have checked if this also apply to the forerunner 255/955 watches? I did not see any writings of this in the manuals. After two weeks of only swimming (no running, no cycling, no walking), will my VO2 max be estimated from heart rate? Will this value be taken into account for statistics related to the measurement of effectiveness and training status?
Been wondering the same question. Do you by any chance got the answer on this one?
Also have the same questions. Currently looking for my first Garmin and can’t decide to buy a way cheaper Vivoactive4S or the more advanced Forerunner 255S. What do you guys think?
@@ardiancandraputra2559 still anyone has not replyed
Thanks for the review. I currently have a 945. Will I see an improvement in features with this watch or am I better of keeping the 945? Keep up the good work!!
I don't care for activity. What watch should I look for to get polished notification functionality and always on MIP display with >2wh battery life?
Might be time to upgrade my FR225!
lol..255 dude not 225
@@areyen7849 no I do mean 225.
Awesome review! Thanks so much for all the work you do. Been waiting a while for this watch. With the pricing of the 255 music just 100 less than 955, it seems like there is no room for the 7xx series. Is that series being phased out?
Agreed, been waiting to see what a 755 might be like but it doesn't seem like it's needed now.
Agree... And honestly... Probably a good idea on Garmin side, with the double form factor of 255 plus the double music/nonmusic versions, plus 955 with the option of solar... Everything is covered, and honestly... Streamlining the offer looks like a good idea both on a cost management standpoint and in order to have a more consistent, less confusing range, the overwhelming number of watches Garmin sells always puzzled me... A "base-mid-top" (55-255-955) kind of range makes a lot more sense. Actually, wish they did it for the Fenix as well, and contained the price a bit more... Having 50 versions all overpriced is far worst that 15 versions at a reasonable price point and easier to choose among
Looks good but now I wonder when I’ll see all these new race and running training widgets on Fenix 7 etc :(
I've never owned a fitness watch so would be grateful for your insight: I'm leaning towards the 255s due to smaller form factor; it appeals to me that I will just forget I have it on, (particularly useful during sleep) and I would use all its features on the connect app of my phone. Is this realistic, or does one have to interact with the watch face itself? I'm not a runner, more into gym/bodybuilding, and want to use the watch for stress tracking, and overall fitness tracking over time. Thank you!
Yes it’s not a requirement to interact with the watch for most of the part, unless you’re tracking your workout or wanting to see some data quickly. A glance at the screen shows heart rate and battery life. There are data rich watch faces also available that show steps and other data
I use a FR55
Maybe try Venu 2S, it would be a lot more suitable for non runner.. I think Ray also has the video review on Venu 2/2S 😀
Perfect watch… but no solar version… What have you done, Garmin??
@DC Rainmaker
Great video. Im been Garmin whole time. coros has my interest with battery life. I don’t care about music on watch. Be interested in seeing a video on your thoughts and comparison on Coros pace 2 vs Garmin 255.
Sounds like Coros pace 3 might be this fall, have you heard anything?
From Seen past RUclips reviews coros is behind on Garmin on app features/layout few other things, while a lot people may not are about that and just want a multi sport watch, with great battery life and simplicity. Coros ahead of Garmin on battery life and slightly lighter. Sounds like coros is working hard to catch up on all little features but keeping with better battery life…..
Im trying to decide between coros pace 2 (or wait for coros pace 3 this fall) or get Garmin 255 for my 15 year old and also 13 year old (they are on swim and running team and both are gonna start doing Triathlon this summer. I’m not going to rush into purchasing watches for them, just trying to figure out when it comes time to purchase. Anyway, Always great videos.
Thanks so much. I may go for 255. The most important for me is battery lifetime in GPS mode for long distances. I am very tempted to go for 955, but the price is crazy. It says up to 30h for 255, have you tested it? I will be running couple of ~24h events and would be awesome to have my battery alive :) Thank you!
Run the 24h event faster?
Haha, sure I will try to run faster 😂
If battery life is one of your main wants, you should look at the Coros watches; they're in a league of their own for battery life
great review as usual. Will the 7X get the new training and recovery software updates on the new 255 and 955? Keep up the great reviews!
Of course it will. :) Fear not!
have a good one too
Seriously looking at a garmin watch , but still struggling to pick one. Main interest are cycling (road, gravel & MTB)
Thank you very much for the very nice review!!
If I understood right the 255 must be a better watch than the 945?
More accurate and advanced right?
Great, JUST bought the FR 945 like 3 weeks ago :)
Can you perform a lactate threshold guided workout with a chest strap on the 255? (It wasn’t possible on the 245)
Just a quick question. So, the Instinct 2 will have the exact same training load metrics (plus HRV) as the forerunner 255, right?
Will native running power data fields support STRYD? Or only Garmin power meters?
Yeah from what he said it sounded like only the Garmin devices are supported, but I’d love to get clarity on that. If it does only work with Garmin’s pod and run strap that a pretty rubbish Shimano style move from Garmin!
I was waiting for 955, now I'm going to 255. It's more compact and cheaper. The maps and touchscreen is not worth for the extra money...
I'm having similar thoughts. I have a 945 now, and the improvements that I'd use are in this model for significantly less.
Do you see segments from Strava on this watch?
Have you ever tested the GPS accuracy of a normal vs "S" of the same watch? I wonder if the smaller watch has a smaller antenna and hence worse accuracy...
Heyyy.. when are you uploading a video on GARMIN FORERUNNER 265. cant wait
Garmin needs to have a ebike ride option! I have to 245 watch its still ace
FR 245 is deeply
Discounted compared to 255. Wonder if it’s worth spending an extra $150 for the 255. Currently using a 10 year old garmin that’s finally dying on me.
Seems like both version gets a downgrade in screen area compared to the 245 (active screen diameter / clock diameter). Is this the case?
Thank you for reminding me to "whack the like button". JK your reviews and the go-to information everyone is looking for. Thanks for the info. What bands will fit the new 255 and 955? I headed toward the 955 but watched this to be sure. band sizes would help
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I am considering the FR255 for hiking and backpacking. I am comparing it to the Instinct 2, but don't like the Instinct's smaller, B/W display. Strangely, the specs for the FR255 say that it does NOT include GPS coordinates. And the Garmin Connect IQ add on of UTM coordinate display lists several FR models as being supported, but not the FR255. I just want it to display UTM coordinates so I can see where I am on my paper map. Am I missing something??
I don't own a 255 but watched a review on its navigation a few hours ago and I'm quite sure it includes GPS coordinates
Thanks, this is great! What Garmin model is best for you?
Hey DC, do you know if the vo2 for cycling can be calculated from workouts synced to Garmin connect, I use TrainerRoad and don't think I can have my pm connect to two devices.
Thx, looking forward for 255 written review and comparison to 955.
Well, spotted the "Mont Ventoux vs Des(fit)" event. When is it going to take place? ;-)
On the date shown in the video. ;)
Would love to know exactly what you're missing out on going for the 255 vs the 955. Doesn't seem like much (touch screen aside).
@@Jay151 255 has routing, just no built in maps.
Does the multiband GPS improve real time speed accuracy/responsiveness?
one major downgrade when switching from 245 to 255 is "back to start" is "tracback" only. Missing direct to start point feature massively. Also, no option for widgets view, just glances, a bit annoying.
Congratulations for your depht review, i have a question for you: do you think Is a good idea ti replace my Swim 2 with the new Forerunner 255 especially for Openwater swimming? Thanks a lot. Best regards
Thanks for the review. Does the watch seem faster/snappier than the 245? Thanks
Hey there! Nice video! If you had to opt between Suunto 5 and FR 245, which one would you get and why ? Thanks in advance!
The training seems much like Garmin coach except more developed and able to make adjustments through the watch
Would you say this a better than the coros pacer 2? I am looking for a new watch
Would you recommend this watch over a Fenix 6, given it's new features and multi band?
Thanks!
Thanks Martino - very much appreciated!!!
Would like to configure watch via iPhone but can't find where on the iPhone I can do so. Any help is appreciated.
I'm confused, what does the fenix series have that this doesn't? Maps? Slightly better battery (as of fenix 7)?
hi everyone. Need an advice: my fenix5s needs a head unit replacement. for my activities, my fenix is still good enough. Just wondering if is relevant to spend some money to repair a watch of 7 year old when with double cost i can get a brand new 255. What do you think about that?
Hey, awesome review. Do you know (of course you do) what music systems the 255 music can use? I see spotify and amazon music, but what else?
dear ray thank you for the great review. What do you think, will the features of the 955 also be rolled out in the epik 2?