I love the emphasis on humility. I try to use humility when discussing God with non-believers but they often get very defensive and I have a tough time focusing on humility in those times. I need to pray for more humility, patience and showing love in those situations.
Yes, science has humbled Christianity and Christians as well. Initially, science provided a body of knowledge that enabled the development of previously unimagined instrumentation, allowing humanity to see the universe in far greater detail. This meant that for the first time in history, the assumption that the bible's source of information was indeed an all knowing entity, could be verified. For example, if I were reading the owners manual for a Tesla roadster that claimed to be written or dictated by Elon Musk, finding a section on how to replace the fuel filter and change the oil would invalidate the claim of musk's authorship. It would also imply that the manual was written by someone unfamiliar with electric vehicles. In the intervening years of scientific inquiry, the body of knowledge gained has falsified relevant information in the Bible. Whenever the contents of scripture go beyond the scope and knowledge of human beings at the time the texts were written from the inner workings of biology to the solar system, our current understanding continually shows them to be false. Thus it has been difficult to maintain any degree of certainty concerning all things revealed by scripture.
Your point about humility is a wise one, and very scriptural. Unfortunately, I have never met a young Earth adherent who approaches his perspective with this humility. Either you believe in the young Earth, according to them, or you must not believe in the Bible at all, disregarding the complexity of Hebrew as a language and the possibility--dare I say likelihood--that they are wrong in their interpretation.
I find myself praying that AiG will go bankrupt. I am an old-earth creationist that lives in the American South, so young-earth creationism is very popular where I live. I think that the AiG's Creation ^Museum^ and Ark Encounter are huge wastes of money and time. I will be laughing and partying if/when AiG goes bankrupt. I pray OEC becomes more popular in the American South, while YEC becomes less popular. I really hope things will change. "Frame of reference" is important, but another thing that is important is "context of words" and "word definitions." "World" doesn't always refer to the physical planet, sometimes it can refer to the people. So think about that. Have a nice day/night. Humility is a good thing. I agree with this video. I love this ministry. Great message. Great video, keep up the good work. God bless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- with love from a nerdy Christian.
Thanks for your understanding. The principal takeaway - usually pushed aside by reporters as well as naturalists -- is that long or short existence of the material world cannot be explained by naturalism. Thus the God Hypothesis (Discovery institute) is worthy of consideration.
Scientists aren't mimicking natural environments and if they ever succeed in the lab with all their designed equipment, all that will prove is that it takes intelligent design to produce life! RNA world experiments are highly manipulated and they still don't lead towards life!! Chemists aren't working out of a chemical puddle! They're using purified chemicals, pre-existing parts, pre-planned templates, designed pipettes are used to isolate and sequence very specific bases, designed hplc machines etc.
The earth shall not be moved? lol Jesus said there would be earthquakes, number one, and number two, the bible defines the earth as dry land. Either way, the earth has move consistently over the years.
I love the emphasis on humility. I try to use humility when discussing God with non-believers but they often get very defensive and I have a tough time focusing on humility in those times. I need to pray for more humility, patience and showing love in those situations.
Yes, science has humbled Christianity and Christians as well. Initially, science provided a body of knowledge that enabled the development of previously unimagined instrumentation, allowing humanity to see the universe in far greater detail. This meant that for the first time in history, the assumption that the bible's source of information was indeed an all knowing entity, could be verified. For example, if I were reading the owners manual for a Tesla roadster that claimed to be written or dictated by Elon Musk, finding a section on how to replace the fuel filter and change the oil would invalidate the claim of musk's authorship. It would also imply that the manual was written by someone unfamiliar with electric vehicles.
In the intervening years of scientific inquiry, the body of knowledge gained has falsified relevant information in the Bible. Whenever the contents of scripture go beyond the scope and knowledge of human beings at the time the texts were written from the inner workings of biology to the solar system, our current understanding continually shows them to be false. Thus it has been difficult to maintain any degree of certainty concerning all things revealed by scripture.
Old Earth folks agree to disagree. Young Earth folks often believe it is a condition of salvation.
Some do and some don’t. Depends on which one you ask
Good discussion of a difficult issue and the call for humility is so important.
Are U singing Christmas Songs with the kids?¿
Time for hot Chocolate, Ho Ho Ho!
Your point about humility is a wise one, and very scriptural. Unfortunately, I have never met a young Earth adherent who approaches his perspective with this humility. Either you believe in the young Earth, according to them, or you must not believe in the Bible at all, disregarding the complexity of Hebrew as a language and the possibility--dare I say likelihood--that they are wrong in their interpretation.
This was a great discussion! Thank you!
"its not a salvation issues." THANK YOU!!
I really like Michael... what a great discussion! I have been beating the drum for humility and grace for a long time myself.
I find myself praying that AiG will go bankrupt. I am an old-earth creationist that lives in the American South, so young-earth creationism is very popular where I live. I think that the AiG's Creation ^Museum^ and Ark Encounter are huge wastes of money and time. I will be laughing and partying if/when AiG goes bankrupt. I pray OEC becomes more popular in the American South, while YEC becomes less popular. I really hope things will change.
"Frame of reference" is important, but another thing that is important is "context of words" and "word definitions." "World" doesn't always refer to the physical planet, sometimes it can refer to the people. So think about that.
Have a nice day/night.
Humility is a good thing. I agree with this video. I love this ministry. Great message.
Great video, keep up the good work. God bless.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- with love from a nerdy Christian.
A good discussion
*I think Michael meant to say that since he is not catholic, he doesn't think the pope is INfallible.*
Thanks for your understanding.
The principal takeaway - usually pushed aside by reporters as well as naturalists -- is that long or short existence of the material world cannot be explained by naturalism. Thus the God Hypothesis (Discovery institute) is worthy of consideration.
Very good initiative.
Are the kids teaching Aimee to sign Christmas Songs?¿
Would it be possible to put an artificial magnetic field around a spacecraft?
Who is Michael?
Why ‘good lord’ mate?
Nice tap dancing!
Science is always the explanation that best explains the CURRENT evidence which is why it changes.
Scientists aren't mimicking natural environments and if they ever succeed in the lab with all their designed equipment, all that will prove is that it takes intelligent design to produce life!
RNA world experiments are highly manipulated and they still don't lead towards life!! Chemists aren't working out of a chemical puddle! They're using purified chemicals, pre-existing parts, pre-planned templates, designed pipettes are used to isolate and sequence very specific bases, designed hplc machines etc.
The earth shall not be moved? lol Jesus said there would be earthquakes, number one, and number two, the bible defines the earth as dry land. Either way, the earth has move consistently over the years.
why is it i have to make a compromise in diff. view-s? why can we not believe in the writings of the bible
@Werner Raabe
We Do. The problem comes in how to interpret them.