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5 Exciting Unreleased Ships | Star Citizen 4K
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- As a change from looking at in-game ships, this video takes a look at 5 as yet unreleased Star Citizen ships, with a view to understanding how they might be useful, and what’s interesting or exciting about the potential of these ships. The video also includes some cinematic footage from Star Citizen.
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00:00 Introduction
01:12 Aegis Vulcan
02:41 Anvil Liberator
04:23 Banu Merchantman
06:20 RSI Orion
07:41 Aegis Javelin
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The Liberator is one I'm most excited for; I plan to use it as a supplement to my Vulture for the ability to operate out in say a roid field. With its cargo cap i should be able to operate for hours out in deep space picking RMC.
My buddy has a lib and tbh I'm as eager to see it as he is! It will make a great FOB for whatever your mission is.
it has so many uses in future gameplay. Pretty excited to see more ships like it.
Operate for hours until you get 30K
Could be really interesting!
Problem with the liberator is to protect it against pirates. With it's landing pads it's one of the easiest ships to board.
But still a very nice ship.
The two ships I am most excited about in this game is the Gatac Railen and the RSI Perseus.
My 2 most anticipated ships too! And in that order 😁
I'm super excited for the Perseus as well!
I wait for the perseus too and the polaris :D
Railen!
The only ship i care about now is shipping the game itself
I am really exited for the crucible, it seem like a great ship because you can repair everything and it look like it can act as a small base of operation with a fighter or other kind of thing
Crucible could be very interesting, I agree!
Already own the BMM and the Vulcan. The Liberator is starting to interest me more and more
Yeah the Liberator definitely sounds like a nice little pocket carrier. I have a Kraken already but always good to have a smaller crew option and sounds fun to run with mining, salvage, or repair/ refuel gameplay.
Oh wow!
I actually own the Lib and am just waiting for it to come out. They gave me a M2 and a Super Hornet to keep me entertained in the mean time. Unfortunately I'm really enjoying the M2 and may have to invest in it when they take it away. Looking forward to the Lib. looks huge.
I’m excited for all of these ships but I think the one ship that shows the largest potential that you haven’t discussed is the Endeavour.
I have it circled too, it was so hard to pick just 5
I’m really interested in the Endeavor. Seems like it has endless potential.
@@Farrister I totally understand. The Endeavour is probably going to be the hardest ship to cover too as it’s so speculative due to sheer size and flexibility of it.
My personal list of ships I'm excited for is:
1. Anvil Liberator
2. C1 Spirit
3. RSI Perseus
4. RSI Polaris
5. 600i rework. I'm excited for what CIG has planned for it.
Ooooh, slid in there with the 600i rework, sneaky
Just bought me a Liberator over at The Impound as it’s started it’s Invictus sales. Liberator appeals as I have myself and 2 friends that play, which makes it a great option as it has a low crew requirement, lots of space for cargo and vehicle options, and lots of range for Pyro some day.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Liberator, for sure!
I feel like all of these ships will be great. Most excited for the BMM and Javelin. I have considered and am still pondering a MOLE to Orion upgrade.
I would like to see more videos like this. If you do I think it would be awesome for the Pioneer to be showcased.
Before you make that move I’d wait and see what we get for a Large mining ship. The Orion just looks like it’s going to need a ton of crew and support ships to operate. I’m also thinking about the type of site that an Orion would operate at, probably fairly rare.
Thanks, good to know :)
I'm looking forward to the RSI Polaris, I know it doesn't have a specific use case, but that's why I like it. Looks like it's going to be a medium crew size jack of all trades. And if I don't have enough friends by the time of its release, I'd go for a RSI Galaxy for it's ability to work in several gameplay loops that I find interesting. Also the Aegis Vulcan has piqued my interest, especially after this video
Use case: torpedo. Secondary use case: torpedo.
This was an amazing thoughtpiece! Talking about potential hardpoints etc is cool and all, but YOU SIR, you just look at the opportunities the ships might offer and that really is the important part. For example: I know there are more sensible choices over a Nomad. But I just love it and it's my favorite and I can't hear you la-la-la! It's what the ship can offer that's important. Always looked at the Liberator like a barge. But you are spot on with the mining venture. Or the Vulcan, not the best repair/rearm to be had, but can be operated solo and perfect for a small squad. Or even eclipse, just stay a bit behind and let the eclipse rearm itself.
I'm changing my answer on the poll: more of this at your convenience please!
Im aching for medium sized ships for RSI/Consolidated Outland, like an exploration Apollo/Nomad with a larger tractor beam, living quarters, and cargo bay akin to the cutty black
Oooh, interesting concept
The Vulcan was the ship that most excited my "industrial gameplay" side. I do think it will be a bit larger than the Prospector or Vulcan though.
A bit larger, yes, but I think will perform a similar function as a sort of starter ship for those loops
The ship I'm most excited for is the Triage/Medivac. I'm planning on having all 3 medical ships (Medivac, C8R and Cutty Red) and roleplaying as a S&R pilot.
Not to mention, Apollo looks fantastic!
@@Farrister Oh yes. I love me some RSI blockiness.
I like that the Orion has grown. It makes way more sense to have massive civilian ships than military ships. I think the Pioneer should also get much bigger than concept since the scope of outposts is also growing.
Everything grows lol
Own the BMM, and was so excited when they was going full development on it and teasing it, and even had a possible finalized date, then when they announced they completely stopped. Deflated my excitement to 0% 😂
An alternative, albeit much more expensive one, to the Merchantman is the Kraken Privateer, as it is also meant to be more of a marketplace/mall/station than its normal version. Both Krakens are not combat ships, and are Industrial Carriers.
For the big spenders!
the banu merchantman is my most anticipated ship on this list because it does abit of everything the other ships can do
it can be a light carrier and fit small ships in the top bay and the cargo bay if youre skilled enough
my guess would be around 8-10 pisces or razors
its covered in some hefty firepower so it can do bounty hunting and other combat roles
it has a med bay and mall so you could set it up like a hospital ship or a mini city and land planetside often to trade and heal
Well, I'm excited for when we see it in game, that's for sure
That was great, thanks for doing that Farrister - I know you're not one for speculation, especially with so much that can change. If you're interested, KnebelDE has an early whitebox tour of the Anvil Liberator to check out...
Thanks!
I, too, am a member of the Crucible fan club. However, I'm surprised you didn't talk about the Endeavor, since that has the ability to do a bunch of totally unique gameplay loops.
Cmon Ogi, you know how hard it was to choose just 5 :P
I am looking forward to the liberator, as well as the RSI Apollo Triage. The medical gameplay loop interests me, as well as the unique gurney-style drones that will be able to retrieve people without having to land the ship.
Apollo also looks fantastic
I picked the Liberator for when you cant just claim a ship but people want it some other location I could then taxi their ships around the systems for them :)
An interesting idea!
Great video! I love seeing more info on these ships. I'd be very happy to see the others that didn't make it into this list. Thank you for the content, Farrister!
Thanks Snaggletoof!
Nautilus, Genesis, and Endeavor, are the 3 that are going to change the landscape of the game the most.
The Genesis in particular has been on the backburner since the kickstarter.
I'm surprised to read those 3!
I’m relatively new I started playing a month before last years IAE. I want to imagine Jax McCleary returning to Stanton on a Merchantman. It would be cool to see the merchantman at the next IAE and then pyro dropping after it ends. One can dream. 😅
replace MM with a Polaris and you might be telling the future my friend...
That would be awesome!
Have you been looking at my wish list? All 5 of your chosen few are what I would also like. Great video again keep them coming
Glad you enjoyed - and glad you liked my picks!
another great one Farrister! I think the Pioneer has one of the most interesting gameplay features attached to it
Thanks, and lots of people love an outpost builder!
I'm looking forward to getting the Vulcan as a loaner for my Crucible (which is my pick for most exciting unreleased ship)
Ah, Crucible love!
Interesting list of ships you've got there Farrister. All of them have some industry that is forthcoming in game and could potentially make a citizen a lot of credits. Great video again and I look forward to your next one. Take care, fly safe, and I'll see you in the verse.
Thanks Koron
The Orion is not exactly the next in line after the Mole. There is a RSI large mining ship planned.
And only because we have 3 types of mining fleshed out, doesn't mean that the Orion could be done quickly. Since ship refining isn't in just yet, which the Orion will also have on board as well as material sorting. And the second theory of mine: the Orions mining process will be another type of mining. Like the vehicle munching claw on the Reclaimer, i guess that the Orion will break up large asteroids to munch them internally. Those mining drones could either work like small prospectors, or like remote controlled ROCs to mine of crystals from asteroids in space.
"The Orion is the next step up, or potentially, the next step up and then some." - I'm interested to see more detail on all the unreleased mining ships :)
@@Farrister i have the strong feeling that we first see more large ships before we see capital ships in the game. There is a big chance that the RSI large mining ship will be in game before the Orion.
Hey, just a heads up but there is coming a large mining vessel made by RSI they scaled up the orion to fit the capital class. Speculated reason was there wasnt enough space to fit the stuff they sold the orion to start with. Also looking forward to liberator the most.
Could be interesting to see!
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Aw thanks!
Most of the bigger ships don't really pique my interest simply because their intended gameplay purpose is still so many years away. We won't be seeing the javelin or the orion before dynamic server meshing is fully implemented and the 100 player limit that we currently have is completely gone, till then they're just dreams in the minds of their backers. Personally I'm much more interested in the ships up to the size of the 600i or so as those don't take years to make and offer great gameplay value to basically every player and not just those that can actually gather 80 people to crew a javelin.
That's fair!
I really want the liberator, I love the pocket carrier potential.
It's a cool idea
Right now, I'm most excited about the liberator.
Could be interesting!
Well done Farrister!! Good choice on your ships, I agree with them all especially the Vulcan...can't wait for it....(Guess I'll have to)
Guess we'll have to!
I would have loved it if you included the Nautilus. It is one of the most anticipated unreleased ships. But great compilation!
But is it.... mine?
I got a liberator, orion and BMM, and im excited
to see them
Oh wow!
Merchantman is probably the closest, but if we don't see that one before 2025 I'm not surprised. Other ones probably 5+ years.
2025 is not so far away... :D
It has been my theory for many years now, that there will be entire Orgs, or perhaps sub-orgs, dedicated to crewing a large ships like the Javelin. It'll be interesting to see if my theory is correct or not.
I hope so too, it's my dream to put together a crew for one of these things
Nice video; just would've preferred the Banu Merchantman section use the updated concepting and video footage of the work last done for it.
I have serious concerns about large ships, unless CIG shows it can pull its crap together.
The Liberator is great, but how will ships be managed? who owns them? Will I, when I bed log and come back later, be able to operate the ship, if the owner is not me, and is not present (no party then)? How many of it's own ships and vehicles will the owner be able to spawn an store into the Liberator?
What about an Orion: can the crew operate the ship if the owner is not in game? it takes weeks of gameplay in real world to get a profit for such a massive vessel, same as currently the Reclaimer fares, with a crew of up to 5 members who need some time to fill up the cargo bay completely.
Other ships are problematic, like an Idris or a Javelin for the shear size of their crew, or a Carrak, or a Odyssey, ships that need to stray out into the nothing for a long time.
Even smaller ships can be problematic: an Expanse looks like a fine idea, until you realize it's cargo is not that impressive, and you need real time refining to get the job done. Unless you are working with a lot of mining ships in an Org, and you cargo could fill up pretty fast, finding other miners you don't know is difficult, as miner tend to be sussy about strangers looking for them.
A good combo, if the game allows that, is for a Liberator carrying a Vulcan, an SRV, and a F7C-R for long range scanning and protection. It could also carry a Pisces Red, for the medbed, and a Hull A inside the hangar for retrieving and moving salvaged containers. This seems all nice for a couple of player working in Pyro, "IF" the game allows so many ships to be spawned and kept on the carrier. The lack of a proper respawning bed on many large, multu crew ships is also a point of concern, as it makes persistence hard to keep.
Another concern is about reclaim time of these large ships ans stability of the game: it can take 1H to get back a ship who just collided with an invisibile asteroid, or may be just teleported on the other side of the verse due to a 30K. What about your BMM filled with thousand of cargo boxes you go around and sell as a moving shop, when something happens to the ship?
I think capital ships are currently too vulnerable to be attractive given the shear amount of resources in game (and IRL Money) they take. Risk could be acceptable for a military ship, which play fast and furious scruffs, but much less for industrial and commercial ones, if they are used consistently instead of that "once in a year spin off" for the LOL.
I think you're right, although that said, there's a niche for them. One of my least used ships in my hangar is the Hammerhead. One of my favourite ships in my hangar is the Hammerhead. It's rare that I have a full crew together to go out into the 'Verse and blast away at some fighters, but that's one of my favourite things to do. I'm OK with that too, it's a group play use case.
Nice vid!
1, 2 & 3 are all on my list (& in my hangar 😊 )
Haha
I like ships that I can easily and reliably solo so the Aegis Vulcan seems like a good ship to upgrade to once it arrives. A perfect upgrade from the Vulture.
Potentially, yes :)
The Javelin, the Orion, the Merchantman, ships of these sizes are seriously bound to multi- crew and thus Organised Play.....which is the bedrock of Org/Group play. the other ships benefit from small faction/ team co op or solo/duo game play.
Agreed!
Great vid, mate👍🏻
To answer your question, my favorite unreleased ship is the Apollo hands down 🤟🏼
Apollo looks fantastic!
Meanwhile in the shadows with the grinding teeth of MISC Endeavour which is mumbling with a great deal of insanity: Hold my particle accelerator!
haha
I have the orion and the vulcan. Excited for both even though it seems there's no active development now.
Seemingly, but it's difficult to know I suppose
Hey there, I really enjoy your content and was wondering what components you have in your pc? Keep up the fantastic work!
I keep a list of components used to make each video in the video description section :)
Personally looking forward to the Gatac Railen and Anvil Crucible.
Oooh yes!
Yeah there's some inspiring stuff coming :) I have an Endeavour waiting for me and that's the one I'm most excited by - even though it'll probably be the last to release! Yiu just get so many gameplay loops for one ship.
I have the BMM purchased already but the Orion is another ship I'd love to see finished and released as I throughly enjoy the mining loop
An in-game purchase (or offer to crew one) for me, I think
I’m really excited for the Vulcan, really hope it isn’t so generalised for different support types that it becomes crap at everything.
It'll be interesting to see - I'm hoping for a "jack of all trades, master of none" type thing
Vulcan looks cool. Might have to snatch one up when it becomes reality in game.
Yeah, I am very tempted by it too!
I have a Crusader Genesis in my fleet that I'm pretty excited to one day get my hands on.
Really cool concept
The Orion “IS NOT” the next mining ship to come out. It’s a capital class ship, not a large. They already did a community poll a little bit ago asking which company we would like to see make the next Large Mining ship that will act as an in between of the MOLE and the Orion.
The Orion wouldn't be feature complete until we get resource management and meshing anyways. I own one and am excited for it, but as much as I want it, I'll wait until it actually does what its supposed to rather than have something like the Reclaimer where its barely usable and the arm and drones don't work. (I want Rock'em Sock'em Spaceships!)
Yeah, what make did we vote? I’ve been trying to remember. I’ve been holding a 400i I don’t use in anticipation of CCUing it into that mining ship when announced
@@Uberzit RSI
Yeah the Orion needs many techs and gameplays for working and also true economy and really big asteroids
I didn't say whether the Orion is the next mining ship to come out. I'm not aware of a timeline for any of these ships.
Great video. Lots of cool upcoming ships here
Yup!
Of those listed, I’m waiting for the Vulcan. I enjoy a lot of the non combat aspects of the game. The Liberator I hope to see soon for orgs to utilize. The Orion will be great to see as well. ……Soon
... soon
I would add the Hull C to my anticipated upcoming ship list. . .
All of Hull series are exciting to me!
I have no interest in owning huge ships but I am looking forward to operating off my Orgs Kraken. I am very interested in the Liberator because technically it is still a solo ship and I can use it to mine solo or just carry cargo as well as supporting others. It even looks as if you can fit an Expanse alongside a Prospector. If it goes on sale again and looks to be ready to release within 12 months I might just melt half my fleet to get one.
The Vulcan looks very interesting but almost all its gameplay looks to rely on other players which makes me nervous as medical beacons and fuel beacons currently suffer a lot from pirates using them as an easy way to rob you.
Kraken is a very popular choice.
I am REALLY exited for the Perseus. Tho i will probably never own one...
Looks cool though!
Kracken Provateer is one I’d love to hear your thoughts on. It and the Merchantman have my heart
Kraken is popular with a lot of people!
Im trying to rationalize the Gatac Railen sitting in my account. I already have a freelancer max- but good gosh I think the railen is cool.
This is exactly the conversation I'm having with myself too. I know that the Railen gets you a Connie Taurus as a loner, but I actually prefer the Freelancer Max over the Taurus. So if I was to upgrade to the Railen, I wouldn't actually apply the upgrade until the Railen was flight ready.
It has some interesting potential, for sure
Honestly this is the highlight of my week! I like the Perseus and Polaris ❤
2 popular options, it seems!
I ended up with a javelin in my hangar somehow. It appeared around the same time as my divorce, very strange.
Unrelated I hope
@@Farrister too late to ask…
Thanks for this. The Odyssey would have made my top five.
Carrack Killer? :D
Love the format of your videos, catching, entertaining and informative. Your voice really catch me, incredible
Thank you :)
Some really good ships on the list, considering how many are in production. Personally I'm looking forward to the C1.
Crusader Industries, big fan!
Have you ever thought about recording audiobooks? You're voice is so soothing
That would be cool!
I'm waiting for the Endeavor, doing farm things or some sciences, will suit me more than mining ore or delivery things
Space farming!
@@Farrister can be adapted for support fleet and medical center, this is the most modular ship I know
I didn't understand players love of ships until they released the Galaxy. Now i understand. I want a BMM, Endeavor Hope, G12, 600i reqork. But i would sell a kidney ro get my beloved Galaxy.
Haha
Would love to see a Drydock episode for the Orion!
I still have doubts about capital ships and how fun they would really be. The captain doesn't fly the ship unless it's Riker with a Thrustmaster in the Enterprise E.
Well I agree, but that's what excites me about capital ships. It's less about being Riker, and more about being part of that whole crew, working together.
@@Farrister It would be interesting to see how that interaction is built into the game. But I find it hard to imagine that many players functioning as a team at that level other than manning the turrets. Someone has to be the captain and the others have to willingly obey orders. We'll have to wait and see.
Area 18 is a Javelin! Check it out next time you land there! Enjoy your videos, thanks for making them!
Area 18 is a Javelin? What?
I agree having support ships is nice, adds immersion, grit.
And gameplay options for different types of player :)
@@Farrister Absolutely ! Game designers should include ton of options to make the game accessible to everyone (adapted notably to varying sorts of rarer controls).
I'm excited for the kraken and merchantmen and the weird bar big hanger corevette thing idk what it's name it lol also the orion
Big ship fan? :D
Gatac Railen! I can’t wait 😊
You have to :P
I’m excited for the Naughtylus teehee
Is it.... mine?
Ships still being in development for as long as the game been playable is why I'll not pay another dollar to this game until they release these old ass ships.
That's fair enough!
I would like to see the BMM and ORION for my plan is to use the orion in halo and use its tractor beam to load the bmm them go straight to sell on planet that way the orion will be safe and cut down on loading and unloading times.
I might also use the orions ability to move asteroids to make a halo base because asteroids protects from radition and scans and cannot be distoyed by gun fire or torpedo.
Damn, those are 2 big ships, I hope you have lots of friends!
@@Farrister The ORG will make good use of them I'm sure I already have the Orion LTI that I got by selling my auec but want to get BMM ingame because I want to think I earned it through having to go get permission to buy it.
But it is very tempting to just buy it.
Though I definitely can't afford either of them, I'm super excited for the Endeavor and the Odyssee. I'm a big MISC fan and the Endeavor is the ship that made me want to pledge for this ridiculous game in the first place lol.
Yup, a popular choice!
The endeavor will also have science gameplay, probably on an unmatched level of detail that is super exciting! Overclocking weapons and parts, finding stuff with the Telescope, growing space weed or being space doctor... Crazy
I'm excited for the Drake Kracken, myself.
Quite a few are, it seems!
Great content, thanks for the information!
Glad you enjoyed!
The two ships I a looking forward to is the Vulcan and kraken because I could put the kraken is going to be fun with friends and piro
Kraken mobile base xD
I still question why they removed merchantman from roadmap...
:(
Curious, why would you use all the outdated images of the Banu Merchantman instead of the most current revisions?
Just what was on the RSI website!
love to see some love for the Polaris
Polaris a popular choice!
Melted my bmm today to buy upgrades to all the sale ships.... I'll get it back after the sale lol
Expensive!
@@Farrister nah... I can make them for around 265-310 bucks
Should’ve used the new video of the BMM during the review 😅
I don't have it :(
Im excited to get my BMM but very sad on the stunt of progress for it
I think a few people feel the same way
I bought the Merchantmen and I hope it will come out soon.
Ok so we going into Narnia land ?
Interesting but CIG need to focus on core game play.
Passenger hauling
Player item selling/in game mail
Economy
Reputation rewards
Token collection and item rewards
Would like to see all of that too - this video was just about ships
Greetings citizen
A busy life cycle just now but it was nice to take a break. Hear your voice and see these cool ships.. as usual and as always, thank you!.🪐
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
I have been waiting on the Vulcan for so long 😭
:(
Great video thanks. I want a liberator so bad.
What would you use it for?
@Farrister I love the idea of small ops with a few friends. Salvage / mining/ pvp or pve. I also would use it for solo ops. Easy way to take my small ships with me so I can do any missions that are available in a given system. I think it would make a great ship for a solo salvage op as well. Take a vulture and keep offloading to the liberator. I just hope I can land the vulture on the top and quantum with it on the pad. It is a ship with many possibilities and that is why I love it.
I look out to the liberator, i see it as a small mobile base.
Could you make a video about the spirit series and the galaxy
Maybe!
im excited about the apollo medievac
Apollo looks really cool!
I can’t wait for the bmm
Me too!
Why are these ships hangars sow short ? You could make it a cone in center so that taller vehicle could fit. What is a thing behind that concept ???
I'm not sure!
the crucible and the genesis are ones im personally excited for, dont own either of them just think they cool. might be tempted for an E1 depending on what the passenger capacity is for it compared to the starliner
Interesting!
Uh, you used pretty old BMM concept pics… the whitebox images from last year look different. Oh there’s actually five unannounced vehicles that may debut this year, including another concept - I reckon this will be the RSI mining ship that was voted for last year.
Yeah, these were the ones on the RSI website :(