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How to Cam Degree Complete Steps To Calculate Lobe Center
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2021
- setting up the skunk2 pro2 camshaft via cam degree with the suggested
98 lobe center intake and 106 lobe center exhaust, we show and why it is suggested by skunk2 themselves
We hope this gives a bit of light on cam degreeing and it is the same for any other cam manufacturers from Crower to Webcam racing cams
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Im familiar with bong and agot infainess to this man he awknowledge bong works up to this day…I have been watching this guys video for many days now…. Hes the only engine builder that is kind enough to share all hes knowledge…. All the videos uploaded here really make sense accompanied with a detailed explanation with a very humble tone on voice
Oh wow thank you for this!!!! and nice to know you were and are familiar with both Agot and Bong both crazy kulit guys 🤣
Thanks once again, we have to share atleast "proper" ways not to promote DIY but to give awareness to others to avoid "budol" and "scam" its so easy to say "ah kaya ko yan" but to explain its "basta"
you'll never say Basta if its ur passion... however if its all about money then yep!
Great video. Gonna have to eatch it again to complete learn cam degreeing. Thanks
Sweet!! it’s definitely something you got for sure and real soon 😎👊
Very good tutorial, keep up the good work bro..☺️💖💖💖💖💖
Excellent video. Thank you so much for sharing. I did not know but, now I do. You are so right. It is addicting. :)
Super glad this helped man! Yes the addiction 😎
Good job! napakadetalyadong content deserve ng madaming likes and views. 👍👍👍
had my laptop in one scene though not visible
why?
i needed a calculator so it looks like im good with math hahahaha
Thank you for sharing 🤝
Yes sir! :) soon I might make an updated version with more explanations etc but still working on it
Thanks for creating videos, planning to start my build in December.
Cheers
Ooooh nice :) half a year to gather info and parts! I hope it be as fun for you man!
@@SRDmotorsports thanks man.
Looking forward for more videos
Cheers 🍻
@@tana6850 thank you and pls dont hesitate cmmenting to ask on any of my videos
honestly i sometimes frget details so some ask something that reminds me i forgot to share it lol
@@SRDmotorsports sure will do, will have many questions wen I start my build
@@tana6850 nice il try to be active answering here sometimes maybe I will be 1 day late lol
Very detailed computation tito! Thankz.
cam degree eh no short cut to get the lobe centers desired :) but the main benefit i hinted on the video... the ideal lobe centers are where the cams work at best
and on the dyno if u make more power on diff settings? +1 or -1 degree? id know whats missing or needed to improve so 99.99% of the time "next" dyno is always always more power :)
some kase think degreeing is the end all be all and thats it. while it is somewhat true it is also like a "compass" that lets u know with the dyno on where its headed :)
@@SRDmotorsports comparing it to a compass is just awesome!
@@benjieco630 well... cuz we hear it "its taken to the wrong direction"
well ok a compass then! 🤣
@@SRDmotorsports i myself also thought that cam degreeing is the end of the dialling process. I even misjudge that adjustements made on the intake must be equal or lesser on the exhaust..🤣🤣🤣
@@benjieco630 no actually its just the inevitable thing on Pro series cams as the exhaust is bigger by design and it works.
But example crower? they are okay to be set to "zero" "zero" and still be "okay" but ofcourse as noticed, valve to valvr checking, clay testing and especially degreeing will let you see the better window of safety.
Cam degreeing is somehow end all be all but on a different perspective, the suggested specs are correct meaning if the dyno shows u different and u need to advance or retard the intake? it means "changes" on the engine is needed for the cam to enjoy its proper position
so changes + redyno will almost always insure more power and 99.9% once u get the complimentary parts to let the cam be at best on its "suggested" position is MORE power
Could you do a video for those in a budget and only access to one DTI. That would be a good help. Those kits you use are 500 pounds in the UK. It puts a lot of people off.
u can do the same with 1 , just like the sohc vtec degree I did just exhaust and then u can do just intake
@SRDmotorsports okay I will have a look, thanks again
@@Marcturbo1 yes sir just needs a good magnetic stand that is movable arm like in the sohc video , the rest you still do the same what I did here on this video only difference is if u start on the intake u set the dial guage there then after set it again on the exhaust
Awesome information in this one brother
Yes sir! Haven’t seen one explain it this way
@@SRDmotorsports people don't like to educate others unlike you brother, you're here to share and I appreciate that
my testament to the OG’s that shared their wisdom to me…
@@SRDmotorsports 🙏💯 appreciate it
thank you brother
I remember reading a thread on H-T where Mike Belben and Rocket were having a good exchange on this topic, hehe
ooooh maaaan you are right! i think it was also about perpeneicularly aligning the dials to the axis of the stems
That was 20 yrs ago. Me n rocket bickered all the time.
SRDMotorsportsTV is Cam Degreeing procedure also done when installing aftermarket camshafts, valve spring and retainers ?
Depends really on basic set ups a lot of times no, example crower stage 2 on a d16z6 with correct cam gears etc
I'm trying to wrap my mind around this. I have so many questions
Watching it a few times may spark the light bulb, also this and the part 3 of the b20vtec kind of correlates with one another as far as visuals go, makes sense as it’s the same engine hehehe
@@SRDmotorsports I'll look into it
@@Built_it_by-alex have a go at it maaaan
@SRDmotorsports not sure if you'll read this, it's been awhile, I've finally got all the tools to degree my cams, I've looked at this video many times and I think I finally got it, I'll have a go at it very soon
This means that we assume that Skunk2 has a symmetrical camshaft lobe design meaning lobe center (LC) is between Open and Close. Is it problematic if we don't have the recommended duration or Open/Close degrees? is it problematic if we don't have the recommended safe practice of 3 degrees difference between EX and IN?
Well regardless of that… the lobe center is almost where max lift is… and we do the math based on “opening and closing” because some cams tend to have peak lift maintained a degree or two…
symmetrical and asymmetrical… the opening (from closed) to @0.050” lift or 0.040” lift does not change
But yes anything from 0.100 to max lift on the opening and closing is different on the skunk2 cams and that’s where “plotting” becomes helpful but that would be a 45min video too boring 😂🤣
You showed a lot here. Like always damn good video, have to say.
p.s. Actually, would like to know where did you get that part of the intro where you show the track, I mean racing? :)
aha! since we both like geography i agree nice question
the races are in Clark International Speedway
in Pampanga about 100km from where i live
Clark Airbase was a US airbase i think since WW2 until the Vietnam War
now its an international airport but the surrounding areas are spacious and they built a racetrack :)
@@SRDmotorsports Aha, thanks. The one driving is? :)
@@RRRRefuelRideRace luckily not me hahaha the one on the outside vid is a friend and the "onboard" driving is Jasper owner of EcuLater hahaha im shy 🤣
@@SRDmotorsports So, you have your own racer in the crew. ;).
@@RRRRefuelRideRace a friend Jasper is also a customer as i am his customer at ECUlater hehehe but on events yeah it looks like we are a group of sorts :)
Hey man what’s seat pressure spring valve correct for my b20 vtec setup, I building b20 vtec all motor forged
hey man thanks for the comment and question :) it depends on your cams but lets say from skunk2 tuner 2 , pro2 and even pro3 we like to use supertech spr-h100dr spring the 85lbs seat pressure set
excellent cuz on the "next episode" of the B20vtec series i would be mentioning it
Hi sir ask lang po ako about sa wiseco piston b20 6567m84 direct napo ba siya na pede ikabit sa b20b block gamit po na head eh itr po.or need papo ng machine shop para pag kabit ng piston
Need to atleast hone
On my k20 would the centreline or degreeing my motor end up in a power loss with skunk2 cams
Not really I mean the skunk2 suggested lobe center is a marker where it’s supposed to be by design but must check everything on that
@@SRDmotorsports but would I need an exhaust cam gear that’s adjustable ? Because mine is still stock.. and their different cams suggest different centrelines , 107/108/111/114
I have no clue how any of that works, I learn but I can tell more from driving
@@the_JDM_fanatic actually to fine tune to the detail… personally I believe an ask exh gear does help but without it won’t be the end of the world
man i need your help tp degree my head for b20v
Had a question on ur last comment sir
ive degreed cams and actually found more power running them at zero or even just half degree advancement
Nice
I have a b20 vtec woth gsr special grind cam that made 218hp on 91. I installed pro1cams and m5 fuel and only made 228 so only 10 extra hp. But tuner didn’t want to mess with my cam gears settings. Wonder if I can get more power out of that cam?
There’s def more in it
@@SRDmotorsports or should I just install a pro2 or will my b20 replica type r pistons take pro3? I am currently 228 hp m5 fuel with pro1
I think pro2 would be better and safer
What dial kit, on the head, are you using?
oh thanks for the question Buddy!!
it was first and originally designed
by Mike Belben with username of the same name in Honda-tech.com that xenocron exclusively sold before they closed, but Chris owner of Xenocron said his other company RaceSpec.com carries it now check it out :)
Just wondering, why bother degreeing your cams if the suggested cam card centerlines isn't the right settings for your application?
Why not just do cam inspection for V2V and P2V clearance and play with cam settings at the dyno?
That’s what everyone local to me thinks and sees it however that is doable yes… is it proper? No….
Because the suggested cam centerline is what the cam was designed “properly” for
if on the dyno ur intake cam wanted + or - the suggested centerline? that’s power? Yes
But the story doesn’t end there… “why” it made better numbers when advanced or retard = says what lacks or what is too much on the engine intake or exhaust or compression or both…
I don’t share the exact details as I expect a proper builder already knows this but I’d bet u that you can ask “alot” of “wannabe” and they won’t know “why” it made power with + or - except “the engine liked it”
Well why did the engine like it lol
That differenciates “engine building” and “developments” vs “engine assemblers”
we both can agree there’s too many self proclaimed peeps out there but ask them to explain they’d tell u it’s complicated? Hahaha
but hey they obligated to add “development” or “engineering” to their brand name 😅
@@SRDmotorsports oooo i see!, that's a great way to put it. So it's more of a way to finding the "Weak link" to your setup if you haven't satisfied the cam card's specifications or in other words incorrect engine combination.
Yes sir… the cam card specification is how the “cam” was designed… sadly we see a lot of places think they know more than the actual makers 😂
Also, How did you lock vtec?
Episode 3 of the b20vtec series Daniel the first portion of the video ishow and discuss how i lock vtec as it was a question asked by others on the other videos... thank you for thequestion
it helps me how to make better videos :) cheers buddy
Did you lock vtec lobe? Can't dial on primary lobe?
Yes always lock the vtec… the cam spec sheet or cam cars are numbers on “vtec”
How much hp you think it’s gonna run?
These kinda set-ups usually run 230-235whp "sometimes" 240 on pumpgas
Is it safe to run these Pro 2s on zero setting?
No cuz zero is always different each brand camgear
@@SRDmotorsports we ran zero on stock camgear. Got an aftermarket set, was wondering whether it is safe to run until we get it degree’ed.
like I said… if u can degree it first that’s better with the engine disassembled… why? It takes 0.1sec to destroy 100% of the engine
and regrets don’t bring engine back from damages
Brother man do you set the lash to 0 when you degree the cams? Or does it really matter?
Oh yes I always set it to zero just to see the accurate numbers
But even with lash you would still get to real close lobe center just opening and closing will be different so will be a bit confusing so zero always better
@@SRDmotorsports thank you very much for all the good information i just order my cam degree kit today from race spec im so excited to build my b20v this year with ctr pistons and pro3 cams its all happening because of you thanks for all the information and good motivation
Anytime brother!!! And maaaan that sounds like a strong and tough b20vtec you building! 😎
@@SRDmotorsportsi really hope everything comes out good thanks to you and your good information videos
It will man… I’m always here to answer whenever I can 😎