“You can’t sit outside while kids are dying inside” and “you do what you can or die trying” are great points donut. And you’ve been a cop you’ve been in swat. That’s why I definitely respect your opinion more than glorified news readers
As an academy instructor once told my class, "somedays it sucks being a cop". You made an oath. You already have your affairs in order before you mark on duty. Your wife and kids know you love them before you leave in your cruiser. You signed up to be the person that runs in. Your neighbors trust that you will be the one that runs in. No one lives forever. Go in and do your damn job no matter the cost.
Sometimes it doesn't take any special expertise to see what was obvious from the start: A severe lack of courage and ability to think for themselves led to this situation being far worse than it should have been.
@@rjm8373 I wonder what kind of culture could've formed these two features, maybe the one fostered by the people making up 80 percent of Uvalde's population... these people come to a worthy place built on solid values only to keep their old ways and mentality, even generations after moving in. Be careful with the kind of people you let in, Americans, don't be as naive as we Europeans were.
I understand some of these people might think, "Damn, I could get hurt", and that compels them to wait, but they often forget that they're getting hurt right now. Being shot, especially with body armor, especially so close to first responders, with modern medicine isn't typically lethal. You can in many cases recover from being shot. You won't recover from listening to children die for an hour and thirty minutes.
Listening to how this went down this Chief is a straight CLOWN 🤡 anyone who has been in the military and the police knows on watch/duty first thing you equip is your radio, channel checked. Shit hit the fan and his whole career displayed itself in that moment. Officers in the school should of disobeyed the order. It was lawful to do so. Deal with the paperwork after.
Not if you're a cop you don't. Cops do not have a duty to protect citizens. Courts have agreed this. The whole "protect and serve" thing is just propaganda, marketing. They protect themselves, they serve their comrades. Donut can pretend he'd act differently but he'd be outside with the rest of those good cops who were doing their job properly listening to kids get murdered one after the other.
Damn right. Sure, it's hard to tell your boss to go screw himself and go get yourself into the line of fire, but it's necessary. And not just in this extreme example, this is how most of our country is crumbling right now. "Not my job.. I asked and they said no, I did good." No, no you didn't. Good would be quitting your job to do the right thing.
@@RogueShadowTCNLike the poem “First they came” or the “cougars eating faces” party, no one expects the worst to happen to them. We believe, or we hope, nothing bad will happen to us. That makes it hard for us to put ourselves in danger or even discomfort to help others. Overcoming that self preservation idea that “I’m all that matters” is difficult for a lot of people. To some it just doesn’t make logical sense on why you’d put yourself in danger to save someone.
Chief should go to jail. Theres got to be something that we could get him on. Maybe assistance in mass murder. I dont believe he didnt do that shit on purpose. Sickening
Sounds like shots fired were at door. But there is a chance a few of those kids might have survived the initial barrage of 100 rounds before cops arrived. Plus they supposedly taught ALICE training but for some reason teachers told kids to play dead which is incredibly stupid.
@@MrSinEon have you never heard of charges like aiding a burglary? Assist is a synonym for aid. Aiding in the murder of over a dozen people. So, aiding a mass murder
So you're saying the Uvalde PD just held the hall while the shooter played duck duck murder? Everyone in that department should be replaced. The chief for being incompetent and the rest of the officers for failure to act.
@@ls-420stoner6 They aren't elected officials. They don't need to be impeached. The entire police department could be disbanded tonight if they wanted to. But of course they won't. Yes, they do deserve worse. Absolutely.
There was a cop in Canada that stopped a shooter that barricaded himself after shooting 2 people... The cop had a pistol and slid across and got the guy call of duty style.... Sometimes there's men with balls in control and then there are cowards in control... Unfortunately that day we had cowards in control and the kids paid a heavy price for it ..
On Monday, my school was taking exams and after the first exam was done we went into a lockdown and sat in a corner by the teacher’s desk. About 2-5 minutes in, more or less, the police arrived and started searching the entire school for weapons. Note: A man from Ohio (Only in Ohio.) called the police department saying there was a weapon on campus, police called the school and told them what happened, school goes into lockdown and police arrive. For what feels like an eternity the police get to our room and do a quick sweep, it occurs again about 10 minutes later, except they ask the teacher to open the door, teacher is skeptical, and the police come in and you would not believe the sound of everyone sighing. After about another 15 minutes we get the all clear. And we all go home. I am really glad the police responded really fast and made sure everything was clear. But boy, do I wish the Uvalde police were like these beautiful bastards.
Exactly, idiots like the police here are always shown by the media because the media knows it will stir up hate and other negative things which will then get them more clicks and publicity, and then it makes people have a negative sentiment towards ALL cops, like people are acting like it’s not like all jobs have people that are bad examples, like that’s a given for every job, what do you expect? You don’t see people judge all surgeons when one surgeon is outed for doing something immoral or bad? Like I don’t get it
I had the same thing happen to me in about 2009 2010 at my high-school I went to in Cherokee County Georgia. I was on the bus listening to my ipod and for some reason the busses were lining up but would not let us off the bus. after about a minute I saw a police car drive up the curb and towards the gymnasium from my side of the bus lane just as a kid came running out of the school with about 10 cops chasing him. We had an on-campus police office at all times, which was great. he was a cool guy. The suspect had somehow managed to steal an officers gun after being caught trying to sell or trade guns in one of the bathrooms. As far as I know he never managed to shot though. I've never seen so many cops dog-pile a guy, while barricading him with cars. They did not care if they messed up their cruisers going up the huge curbs or if the guy shot one of them, as long as we were safe. The response was so fast too I didn't know anything was going on until the cops already had it taken care of. This all happened around the time frame of my bus pulling into the school, having to drive a complete circle around the school the the bus lane, and then stopping because someone told the busses shit was going down. we then all piled into the Gymnasium after as a swat team combed the school with dogs. After about 15 min or so of that they gave the all clear and we went home. I never felt in danger at any point. It both breaks my heart and is rage inducing to see the sheer incompetence and cowardice of the police in the Unvalde incident. This is ridiculous.
No lie, I was on the skeet/trap team in high school. We practiced after school and kept our guns locked in our cars so we could go straight to the center. So did our coach, Mr. Northcut. This was actually approved by the district. Had to keep them in locked cases in locked cars, but still, that would be crazy now.
The Director surgically eviscerated the Uvalde police chief's career, and indirectly threw shade on almost everyone else that showed up; most of the responding officers also put their careers before the lives of children
I don’t get it. If I legal carried and lived in that area I would’ve went up there. I would bare knuckle charge the guy doing whatever I can do those kids. Surprised more community didn’t just say F it and charge
@@GodLovesYou1624 I assume that group of people (like most until they get first hand experience) believed that the people in charge knew what they were doing. And believed the words they heard from them, contrary to what they were seeing.
I don't agree with that. The officers that showed up couldn't communicate with their completely inept, cowardly and incompetent chief and the only info they did receive from their "chief" was full of incorrect terminology. That would have been a totally confusing cluster f... for all involved. ALL because the man in charge was so woefully incompetent he couldn't even turn up with a radio, didn't understand or didn't use the correct terminology which is VITAL when dealing with TRAINED individuals. That chief is the problem. It's starts and ends with him. Everyone else was prepared to do their job, and he stopped them. Such a chit situation all around. But it's overwhelmingly clear, who to blame.
The part that really haunted me outside of this summary is hearing how a bunch of parents actually did attempt to arm themselves and go in to deal with the active shooter themselves. Only for the officers on scene to disarm and then detain said parents. Like... the fuck is that noise?
“Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most. And that is the indifference of good men.” -The Boondock Saints
My cousin was tasked with participating in an investigation of what happened in Uvalde. It seriously fucked with him mentally. He came back to San Antonio a much angrier man than he was before. He doesn’t talk about it at all, and whenever someone brings it up in conversation, he almost immediately finds an excuse to leave the room.
Oh wow…just watched the police investigation they released 2 months ago that caused obvious outrage, where he talked for 25 minutes and said police supposedly followed policy and the ONLY “helpful suggestions “ he gave were “they should maybe change how they lock the doors and maybe change the training for the schoolchildren when in lockdowns” 🤦♀️ nothing close to how this video is pointing out actual failures and police policies. My favorite part is when one of the cops made sure to use hand sanitizer (!?) as he just stood there with the other officers twiddling their thumbs. Anyone who is scared for their life in an adrenaline appropriate situation would not think for one second about using hand sanitizer at a time like that, just one example of the poor response
“What a fckin tard” Couldn’t have said it better myself, this whole case is rage inducing, the Chief really just allowed innocent kids to lose their lives because of his sheer incompetence. It’s disgusting beyond words.
How does that chief look himself in the mirror every day. He’s been a cop his whole life and had the chance to make a real difference instead of just writing speeding tickets for 30 years, and he cowards out. It was either fear or stupidity...probably both
@@saucedispenser well reality is most of those cops had body armor if they did go in fast and hard as soon as they got on scene, know more than one would’ve been seriously injured let alone killed but still your point stands
This shooting hits way to close to home for me One of my nieces use to go there my sis got here out an hour before it all happened. Kids were allowed to go home early that day after giving out certificates. It's sad and upsetting. My heart is with those families and the community.
It's amazing how Uvalde basically proved the GTA San Andreas Ammunation commercial prophetic. Like "Yeah you could call the police if a criminal starts threatening you, but it takes so long for them to respond to a 911 call that said criminal can just do as they please before they ever show up."
Jesus, this makes me furious to listen to. Back around 2000, I was part of a Canadian federal police unit, that did response to an international airport for alien smuggling and illegal migrants. We were not the police force of jurisdiction in the area of our office. The US Border Patrol called us to say that a violent ex-husband had burned down his ex’s mother’s place and almost killed the mom to find out where his ex was. They were fairly sure he had crossed the border and was heading for us. The ex-wife had been moved to the Canadian headquarters just up the street from our office to get her away from her violent ex. They believed that he had passed through the border about 60 minutes earlier and could be at her office very shortly. I passed the information to the local PD, who said that they’d be there in about 30 minutes. I told my the unit commander, a sergeant, that I was going directly to her office to prevent him entering, until the locals got there. He pointed out that we were not the uniform police of jurisdiction, and that it had nothing to do with us. He was right. He was also wrong. I told him that if she was getting murdered while I sat on my ass, I couldn’t live with it. I was going. He said ‘No.” I looked him in the eye, said “You know I respect you, but fuck you, I’m going.” I ran to a cruiser, set up by the front door with my sidearm (no, I didn’t have a carbine either) and waited for the local PD to arrive. They got there and tagged me off, and it turned out the crazy ex-husband had been stopped by the local PD elsewhere. Things were a little stiff when I got back to the office, but my boss said he understood what I’d done and it was forgotten. The job of police officers is to put themselves between the bad guys and innocent people who can’t defend themselves. I’ve had active shooter training, the same as pretty much every cop in North America. I don’t care what the incompetent chief tells you to do - YOU GO IN! And with a roomful of screaming little kids at the mercy of a madman… how can these guys sleep at night?
Good for you man, thank you for sharing. It's amazing to me how there can be that many cowards... not one of 20+ officers had the balls to do what is right. They should all be ashamed. And listen, I believe it's extremely and scary and that they have families as well... well then don't become a cop... despicable.
Every police officer on site should feel like a POS. A mom hopped the fence, went into the school without body armor and unarmed, grabbed her kids and left. Too bad she wasn’t armed.
who would win, a team of trained, armored, armed to the teeth professional killers with decades of vigorous training and mounted on a landmine-resistant troop carrier or mom
@@nutmeister1961 he is saying how fast he fired doesn't matter when officers of government that says you don't need guns for self protection spends over an hour waiting outside as children died. At that point, he could have killed that many people with a knife
@@NotOfThisWorld567 I mean, it sounded a lot like when the pros got there they went 'What the hell is happening-' breached in and took care of it. Horrendous inaction from everyone involved otherwise.
“A flawed plan executed violently against an active shooter immediately beats a perfect plan executed 10 minutes later every time” ABSOLUTELY 100% agree
My kids would call me way before they would call 911. And let me tell you, I never want to go through that ever, the scariest part about being a parent is worrying about your kids and their safety. If I saw cops just sitting around, I have my own personal tac kit in my car and I’m going in. Period. I know my kids though they would definitely be calling dad, dad always shows up to save the day, not matter what the situation is. And if saving lives mean I may have to do a little time then so be it, I’ll have a clear conscience knowing as father that I did everything I could possibly do. The greatest reward is knowing my kids are alive and safe. Nothing else matters. This response to a Active shooter was a total failure and those cops should have to the chief to fuck himself and just go in anyway.
What a bunch of cowards these so-called cops really screwed up how many children died while police were hiding behind cover nice and safe with the bulletproof vests I couldn’t live with myself. They were scared shitless and useless.
This reminds me of the Sewol Ferry incident. Hundreds of people stuck on a ship (that had NO business being out on the water - would overload their cargo, not have anything strapped down, drained of most of the ballast water, added extra floor at top of ship to accommodate an art exhibit with marble walls) as it sunk. PS, the canal they sunk in was known for its dangerous conditions and they chose it to shave 7ish minutes from their arrival time. The nightshift guy in charge of steering turned the wheel 15 degrees (this specific boat knew they were only allowed to turn up to 5 degrees) and the ship almost immediately began to list 45 degrees. Authorities are called, teams are sent…but, somehow, “rescue” doesn’t know there are hundreds of people on board. Essentially only 172 out of 476 people survived that day. But it wasn’t thanks to the officials sent to help. The Coast Guard at the time (they were disbanded due to the incident and reformed later) were mostly there to keep civilians from entering the water and (this part is infuriating) enjoyed ramen together before with their superiors before said superiors went for interviews with the press to say most of the people on the ship were saved - the number of rescues varied as time went on. Meanwhile, parents of a group of high school children were watching the ship sink before their eyes, as the couple of Coast Guard rescue boats circled it. No one was being saved. The first group rescued included the ship’s Captain - I’d like to say he didn’t get the memo that he’s supposed to stay and supervise, but he made sure to change into some regular clothes, neglecting to tell the rescue team that there’s anyone else on board. He’s known as piece of scum #1 in my book. However, despite that, literally all of South Korea knew this was one of the typical vessels that takes customers from Seoul (specifically Incheon) to Jeju Island…plus the phone calls to 119 (their 911) were actively being told that there were hundreds of passengers. The Coast Guard said they weren’t aware of passengers beyond the few they saved. Beyond that, the US reached out to the President to offer aid but was refused because they said they got this. Yeah, you read it right, they turned down an assist from a ship that had over 4000 people trained in rescuing under circumstances as tragic as this - all over pride. From there Coast Guard officers simply sat around waiting for orders - essentially saying, we’ll do something when so-and-so does. Rescues and recoveries were eventually done by regular citizens. Only 3 members of the ship’s crew stayed behind to save passengers. But that’s not the worst of it. The whole time the “rescue” efforts went on, the passengers are listening to a PA system telling everything’s fine, to “stay in their rooms”…and they listen. The life jackets on board were YEARS past inspection - a recording recovered later had a student pointing out the year and commenting on how they looked. Many recovered recordings are heart-wrenching as the students go from mild concern, to joking about death (essentially acting out how they’re in the Titanic), to panic, to acceptance. Many called or messaged their families to apologize for their sins, one said “don’t let my sibling go on a trip and end up like me” - paraphrased due to it originally being said in Korean. Out of 250 students, on what was an annual trip every class was excited for, 72 returned. Many would later tell others that their greatest sin was coming out alive. The teacher who’d organized the event, but wasn’t able to go with them, later took his own life from the guilt of not protecting the children. The chaperones who went also had tragic stories. The three crew that stayed. One, a young woman that refused to leave with the rest and was last seen by a student she’d rescued to go find more survivors was later found by divers. The other two, a couple that were excited planning a wedding. None of them survived. Even the citizen divers faced life-long injuries and some lost their lives to the dangerous conditions within the ship. And all of this over people, who should have protected these passengers, but chose their own pride. No one wanted the backlash that might come out of it if they tried and failed…so they let others make the choice for them. They later started a blame-game as everyone was like “I may not have done what you say, but such-and-such didn’t do ____”. It was, honestly, the most ridiculous and childish thing I’ve seen a group of adults do. No one wanted accountability for their actions - meanwhile the victims’ families and friends were suffering, blaming themselves for what their loved ones went through. Many ended their own lives due to their own guilt or from the pressures the public - for instance, the teacher that organized the trip had been harassed by the press and people, leading to his mentioned exit. In my opinion, he deserved better. You can get better details from Rotten Mango on RUclips (they have a podcast too). The main point is, much like was happened to the people on the Sewol ferry that terrible day, things could have gone much differently if the Chief had just neutralized the threat. If those who were in charge during this shooting actually stepped up (whether to their superior doing nothing or to the challenger hand) and took care of things ASAP. They even refused aid from those more qualified! Needless to say, those kids could’ve been saved - in BOTH situations.
Dude, why would you even ask? These were good cops doing exactly what cops do. Protecting themselves and serving their comrades. They'll escalate a traffic stop so they can beat the fuck out of an unarmed, not resisting citizen, but they're not going to risk their lives trying to stop a shooter lol. There will be no charges. Many will get promoted. Many will kill unarmed citizens in the future (after escalating a simple traffic stop) and be promoted for it. These are cops. This was standard cop behaviour. Their job is not to protect and serve you. That's just a marketing slogan.
@@Aethelhald I assume u haven’t watched many of donuts other videos. Not all cops are like this. Sadly this department were full of inept people and it costed lives.
The families of the victims should sue the police department for the wrongful death of their loved ones. What a horrible tragedy. How the Chief and police officers could stand in the hallway and let the shooter kill children is beyond my comprehension. What incompetence and cowardice. Truly disgusting.
In close quarters (in a classroom) a handgun isn't a bad choice. It's way faster to bring up onto target than a rifle. Body armor you say? Any cop who can't hit a head shot from across the room please quit.
@@spcpitts even a double tap to the chest would work. But anyone willing to follow that order to stand in place, should not only quit, but be charged, have their badges removed, and find another profession.
@@spcpitts please, headshots arent reliable targets... nobody is trained to that standard. You arent reliably making headshots in a stressful situation, especially when the target is surrounded by innocent children. Stick to your first person shooters larper.
@@christiansmith4159 At some point they should've just told him to go quack himself and go in anyway. I can buy being too afraid to go in, but I can not accept "I was just following orders man" as an excuse.
@@truescotsman4103 omg yesssss!!!! I unsubscribed from him after he defended the cops and then told his subscribers that we owed him an apology for calling the cops cowards! He doubled down! I was done with him after that.
@@ryskbotvladimirivanovic1767 agreed!! That is some bs. Like, I know kids are being murdered, but boss said to sit down, so oh well. Smh pisses me off so badly. 😤
Donut, the chief actully said that he felt that radios carried on the persons of officers would be a hindered and he did not carry a radio nor did he want his officers to carry one on the duty belts. I am a ex police officer from a small town in Texas and I carried a radio on my duty belt and this was back in the early 1990's. The chief in my view totally fucked everything up and cost the lives of ALL the kids and the teachers. He should be held accountable and placed of trail for murder.
Held accountable? Yes. He should immediately be barred from any LEO position for the rest of his life. Charged with murder? Not really. Incompetence doesn’t mean malice. Dude already has to live the rest of his life knowing his inaction (and wrong actions) caused the deaths of multiple people, with many of them being kids. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him committing self forever sleep in the next few months (though of course Id never advocate for that and do hope he gets help).
Held accountable? Yes. He should immediately be barred from any LEO position for the rest of his life. Charged with murder? Not really. Incompetence doesn’t mean malice. Dude already has to live the rest of his life knowing his inaction (and wrong actions) caused the deaths of multiple people, with many of them being kids. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him committing self forever sleep in the next few months (though of course Id never advocate for that and do hope he gets help).
@@antibull4869 Maybe charges of negligent homicide might brighten the cowards day. He is a coward and I wouldn't care if he did sideways to himself. Would be like if a person came into your house and started hurting people and you sat there watching TV. He did the same. He obstructed justice. He held back anyone willing to end the shooter. If he had to suddenly move out of Texas, I would understand the people.
@@steelrarebit7387 I hate the chief but when you start "appeasing the crowds" by placong crimes that shouldnt be charged you lead down a very VERY fkin dangerous path.
This is upsetting as a parent I’m heartbroken for the families of these children who lost their lives . All I have to say is I hope that the cowardice exhibited in this ordeal is something they can live with
Im actually disgusted by them calling themselves police officers. When we all take this job and take that oath your signing up to put your life on the line. 4 officers shield, rifle, shotgun and just sit for 50 mins. Should of been stack, push and clear as quick as possible. Hell no shield no long guns should of still been search and destroy. Ive did both for 20 years fire and law enforcement risk alot to save alot!!!!! They dont make men like they used too going to be a scary future.
I could've done better with my Glock and no armor. Hell, I would've without even having a badge. Lead, Follow, or GTFO my way. I don't want to go through cops, but I will.
Well... Dismissing the fact that this was, and I'm sorry to say, just another false flag orchestrated psyop, we have the supreme court to thank for this. Multiple times they have ruled that the Police have no duty to protect anyone but themselves. See DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, Warren v. District of Columbia. It's happened before, it'll continue to happen again.
It wasn't incompetence it was the cowardice of every officer on scene that didn't attempt to stop the children from being murdered, they should all face charges of being accessory to capital murder and be held without bail in general population.
@@thehappyclam3942 I find it hard to believe that it was “cowardice” they had riot shields and ballistic protection. Most people have a moral compass where if your armed you’ll protect children. They chose, not to enter those rooms until he was done, or they got the go ahead.
Hey Donut, would be very interested to see your breakdown on the security footage (without the audio) that has been released. It's incredibly eye-opening and as a civilian who's watched it, it's absolutely appalling and disgusting to watch how cowardly many of the Uvalde officers acted within those halls and how there was only one who was truly attempting to push and attempt to stop this son of a bitch (it was an older officer armed with only a pistol who actually took fire and was hit.)
The commanding officer should be up on charges of negligence at a minimum. I hope the parents sue. Many of the murders could have been prevented. There is ZERO excuse for this level of incompetence.
The Supreme Court has already ruled in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services in 1989 and Castle Rock v. Gonzales in 2005 that the state/law enforcement has no legal obligation/duty to save your life, and I doubt that will change any time soon with the current Supreme Court. And with how Texas defines negligent homicide, it would be very difficult to prove that an officer had such an extreme level of indifference that it rose to a criminal rather than a disciplinary level. Even a civil case would be very difficult to win due to sovereign and qualified immunity, and how Texas handles liability. Even if families were able to establish liability, Texas law divides damages based on who is most responsible, and in this case, it is obviously the shooter. This would extremely lower the damages awarded to the plaintiffs, if they even won their case.
He should be brought up on charges of negligent homicide. Even, aiding & abetting a shooter in the commission of a multi fatality crime. Cowardly bastage..🤬
Okay, if I’m honest I blame all of this on the Chief, but also like you said donut, they should have just didn’t listen and ran in and decimated the guy.
@@robbiespoonerdrummer eh nah I blame the chief. People are having crazy mental breakdowns daily....if a fucking chief can't handle these situations they don't deserve to be chief.
Just following orders as usual. But boy, don't let em catch you speeding or with drugs. The police on scene didn't seem to have any problem going "hands on" with any of the parents who actually had the BALLS fo do something. Absolutely disgusting.
I was a manger at Walmart, I always had my radio because it’s part of the job, and mine wasn’t life or death, that was such a bad situation due to a chief being an idiot, you always protect the kids, keeping the cops from doing what they are trained for is stupid, just recently found doughnut, you are a real G, I’m loving the rabbit hole journey so far
I use to work security for BISD in Watauga Tx for the middle school there and all i did mainly was walk around and make sure all exterier and interior doors were locked. I did my job so well even teachers would complain about me because once every period I would check to make sure there door was locked. Others teachers told me that before me the other security guards would just sit around and watch netflix. They only paid 11.50 an hour so I ended up having to leave because I didnt wanna work 7 days a week since I had to work weekends to to make ends meet since 11.50 wasnt paying my bills. The administration of BISD told me I would get a raise since I kept acing security inspections and i got a raise to 12.00 LOL so after that school year ended I left. amazon pays me 16.40 an hour and also paid for my CDL training. Teachers dont think about the threats, they leave their door open all the time thinking its cool its for the kids. I had to shut down a teacher from opening a side exterior door in the morning since it was another entrance for a threat, both me and SRO would usually stand at the front entrance in the morning since he had to search certain people. Get better trained security, pay them better, im not saying 20 an hour maybe 15 an hour. it needs to be better with school security. Hell honestly there needs to be a certain security license FOR SCHOOLS.
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The most shocking thing to me is the fact the school classroom doors are unable to be locked from the inside. That seems like a massive oversight in school security.
It's crazy that in the US you even have to think about security in schools. I don't think anyone in Germany would even think about building a school with any kind of security in place
@nilsbottjer7129 a person who does not care anymore will choose a place you think is safe. It's going to happen, just when and you will understand. Shit sucks
7 vs. 1 with ballistic shields was more than favorable odds. I think this chief should be investigated to see if he had any connections with the shooter or groups that could've supported the shooter. There's no way this is sheer incompetence
It verifiably does not suck to be RUclips. I would literally end people for my life to be propped up by one of the largest most evil companies on this earth.
Thanks Donut! Waiting for more facts to come out before covering this one was a good call! Insane poorly handled by LE on scene. Blows my mind imagining them just hanging out in those halls for that long....
Granted, there is nothing wrong with stating "These are the facts as we know it. When we know more we will update it ASAP, if we are wrong then we will correct it. SO here is what we know now" Then gives what information is available,
I guess.... he missed the part where the PD changed their story like 5 times. I think that would be considered important if we were investigating non-police. But I guess they get to make stuff up and not lose any credibility somehow. Funny how that works.
5:09 Donut, that was my understanding. That regardless of backup, law enforcement immediately goes in and neutralizes the threat. Officers or a officer should have given the chief the middle finger and entered the school to engage the shooter. I don’t make it a habit talking about my past to anyone and especially on a social media platform but this incident has really pissed me off. Being a Marine combat vet, I know there are such things as unlawful orders and I’m not equating the UCMJ to law enforcement agencies but that moral standard remains true. There is no doubt in my mind that I would have entered the school and engaged the shooter, with or without backup. Semper Fi
Damned straight, I am just a civvie but I would have gone in and engaged the shooter, I'd rather him shoot at me than murder children. Every bullet fired in my direction is one less to use on a child and gives time for kids to escape and law enforcement to get there to take the fucker out.
If my boy were trapped in that school, I would have gladly gone down in an effort to save him. Nothing short of lethal force would stop me, and that would've made this a much more tragic story. "Cowardly police execute father trying to save his son" and nobody could tell me that I'm wrong for it.
I just wanna say mad respect to the school resource officer. Even though he got the wrong guy, this dude saw what he thought was the shooter, and with no hesitation drove across the field at 50 MPH to help save these kids. I only wish he got the right guy.
I wouldn't lionize the school resource officer just yet. Why wasn't he in the school when the shootings began? I would think his presence would be automatic and part of his duty. Why weren't the exterior doors locked. I'd think that regular patrolling to verify the doors were locked would be another part of his duty. Those kinds of duties are ones you don't wait someone to assign to you if you're the school resource officer -- they're duties you just execute whether anyone else thinks of them or not because your job is to maximize the physical safety of everyone in the school.
that chief should be charged with assisted murder for allowing the shooter to kill so many more victims than what would have been if the chief had just rushed in himself, that coward.
I work in a school, and I can tell you, that those doors don’t always lock onto the latch. That’s why custodians are required every night to check every single door to make sure it properly latched. They will look close and even be closed sometimes, just the latch never fully locked. Especially in old buildings, which are a lot of elementary schools due to lack of funding.
So heartbreaking. So glad to see you aren't just giving the PD a pass on this one. Those children waited for the "superheroes" (cops) to come and save them, and the "heroes" were too busy being scared in the hallway while their innocent lives were snuffed out one after another. In an event where seconds matter, these idiots waited over an hour. What's even more sickening is they prevented people from going in to help and even arrested them. I'm not a police officer, nor am I paid to put my life on the line, but I would have been rushing in there without a second thought if I was nearby. How could these officers just stand by and let innocent kids get executed because the Chief won't give them the go ahead. One child's life is more important than you getting reprimanded or fired for going against his obviously moronic instruction. These cops HAD to have known it was stupidity to wait.
Man, you made me cry with that superhero part. It got to the most inner heart pain! And yes you are so right. They were waiting for their super heroes that never showed up.
I agree with what u said except for the part where you would've rushed in. Highly doubt. At first I was on the cops side ( I thought the cops on scene were just the average pistol and taser carrying officers, so i kind of understood why they would be scared, and I didnt know they took over an hour to stop the guy) but god damn way to drop the fucking ball. No kid should fear in school, no cop should wait to put his life on the line.
@@yasmellrodriguez2632 If I heard a shooter, and there were no cops on site yet, and I was armed, yes I would have went in and done everything I could to stop the shooter, even if it meant death. I wouldnt even think twice. To me the lives of multiple children is more valuable than my own.
@@guitarskooter sorry man but its extremely easy to say that when youre not in that situation. Won't take your word for it. Maybe if you were a parent of one of the children I'd be more inclined to believe it :/
Prior Air Force Security Forces here. In active assailant training (RUclips friendly) we were taught to go in. Don't wait for swat. Don't wait for authorization. Go in. If you didn't immediately hear gunfire you cleared rooms. If you heard gunfire you went straight to it. At least that's what we were taught. I wasn't in uvalde and I thankfully never had to respond to an active assailant. Personally I can't Monday morning quarterback but what happened there was shameful.
Its a totally different animal... its a lot easier to turn off and get to work when children arent involved... youd hate to be the guy that got overzealous and accidentally clipped a kid. Failure to act is inexcusable but yeah... different ballpark for sure. The incompetence in uvalde seemed almost manufactured...
My training was not to policing but infantry work. This is text book and I mean text book a situation where violence of action would work. 6 to 1 guys.......fuck
I am a teacher at an elementary school here in Texas. My heart was broken and we had two week left after this happened. The state has taken over school security and safety. They are spending big money on school safety, and I am glad!
Iv just one thing to say... If that chief had a kid in that school... especially that class room....we would not be having this discussion......those cops would have been in immediately.
Right after he crashes his car it looked like two officers approached the wreck, then ran away across the parking lot leaving the shooter to casually stroll about 500 yards towards the school. Unforgivable.
My school said they were taking measures because Uvalde was recent, but they enforce zero of their own precautions. I haven't worn my own entry badge in months, and still manage to get into the building
Yeah unlike cod you don’t respawn but they took an oath to protect and serve this is an absolute fuck fest of impotence shame some shouldn’t of took this job
@@desertsmeagol7073 those weren’t really first responders Those are when the entered the building They coulda prevented multiple injuries and deaths if they manned the fuck up and went in there like they are trained to
I was a Reserve Deputy for thirty years including the Columbine shooting. I marveled at what a cluster fuck it was, and wht the Officers waited so long to make entry. I made the personal decision that if I was ever faced with such a situation, I would make entry and try to stop the killing, REGARDLESS OF ANY ORDERS TO THE CONTRARY. My moral code would not permit me to do otherwise. As as officer, I was sworn to protect innocent citizens, and I fully intended to do that, even if it meant risking my life. Thank you for outlining what happened. Guess it really is true about people rising until they meet and surpass their own level of incompetence. Question, how this this chief manage to get promoted to his position when so incompetent?
I couldn't even finish this shooting break down. Nothing on Donut, you did a great job breaking everything down but I have kids the same age as those killed. I was getting pissed at the officers for not doing their jobs especially the chief.
I feel like it's just the cheifs fault from at least 50% and 30% miss communication and then the rest is cowardness It's pretty sad to see that not even training makes you good at your job
@@yamatokurusaki5790 I would've told the chief or my supervisor or both to slag off and have gone in, I'd rather have that on my resume and unemployment application then dead children on my conscious. Why'd you get fired from your job, told my boss to choke on the fattest and longest of schlongs and went to stop a shooter
It gets even worse, after the chief was fired his lawyer issued a statement that "Chief Arredondo will not participate in his own illegal and unconstitutional public lynching and respectfully requests the Board immediately reinstate him, with all backpay and benefits and close the complaint as unfounded"(Pete Arredondo Press Release 08-24-2022, page 17). He failed to perform his duties and then doubled down insisting he did nothing wrong.
@@max6325974 because she's got more balls then any of those worthless cops do, and to the cops, they would of rather her children die in that school along with the rest, then make them look bad by doing their job for them 🤦🏻♂️
Shes only brave cause she made it out alive. If she wouldve done that and got shot down right next to her kids and got her kids shot too, people would be calling her ignorant. Same with the police, it doesnt matter what they do people will always judge every single thing they do without knowing all the facts or going through that situation themselves.
@@dookiefingers8436 your delusional if you think anyone would think that a mother going in to save her children because the cops didn’t ends up dying because of it that people would call her ignorant … she’d still be a hero. It’s the most unselfish act of it it all … it’s almost like you didn’t watch this video and see how much of a fuck up they were this day ..
Man those poor kids 😭😭😭 RIP to not only them but the teachers as well. The sadness that consumed me thinking of this hurts me to my soul. And imagine the survivors..theyre terror, remorse. These kids never deserved this 😭
It infuriates me that the chief was not charged with anything, he and the shooter are solely responsible for all those children’s death as far as I’m concerned
13:04 idk what the cop is thinking. Yes the rounds are different size, and the AR are more deadlier. But a gun is still a gun that could still eliminate a target.
Indoors especially. Without body armor, pistols even have an advantage indoors, due to their reduced bulk and greater maneuverability, which is why special forces units for hostage rescue use compact submachineguns for indoor clearing.
I graduated high school in 2015. The entire time I was in school, every window by every exterior door was thick and had mesh in it; every exterior door that had a window on it was thick and had mesh on it; every door that led to the outside of the building had a very loud alarm that would go off regardless if the door was locked or unlocked, the only way to open the door without the alarm going off was a special key to the side of each door on the inside of the building that would disable the alarm; every door that led to the outside of the school was locked, security would check the doors on rounds, and the main office was able to tell if an exterior door was unlocked and open, and whether the alarm for that door was sounding. I recently stopped back up at the same school to talk to one of my old teachers. Before you get into the building, you have to be buzzed in by a police officer. Once you're inside the first set of doors, you're locked in there until the officer opens the second set of doors, leading to metal dectectors and a kiosk where you must sign in, be photographed, and provide ID. Only then are you allowed into the main office where you wait for whatever it is you're there for. What boggles my mind is after Sandy Hook happened years ago, of all things, why weren't the fucking doors locked. Hearing there were seven officers not only at the school, but INSIDE the school, shows this was handled beyond poorly. That chief of police needs removed, and he needs to be liable in anyway shape or form that can be done.
It's crazy how different our schools are. I graduated in 2018, but went back in 2019 and early 2020 to visit a teacher after school got out. I had a guitar case that could very well have been a gun case to someone that didn't know the difference. I just walked in through the open doors, no teachers asked me anything. At the time I didn't think much of it, but with these shootings seemingly becoming more and more prevalent it makes me think. Obviously I would never even think of hurting anyone, but someone else could have very easily just walked in and done some harm. Scary shit.
When I was in high school as a freshman …I was at a brand new school …just built… The classrooms had glass walls that open from the hallway , literally the whole school was glass and brick… it’s like they designed the schools for school shooters…. The Nashville shooter literally gained entry by shooting through multiple glass doors… as donut covered a while back.
When I was in the army, people often asked me why I told a lot of soldiers to leave. Not to find their motivation. Not to fake it until their contract is up only to sign another with a bonus. Not to lie to themselves and say it will get better eventually. To either do their soul searching right now, and find it, or get out. I was an infantryman. My job, was to go to other countries and murder people who intended the US and her citizens harm. To protect others by doing and being capable of unimaginable evils and bearing indescribable pain. To face death daily and not just say, but truly understand that every hour could be my last. To find solace in that I'm doing it because I can and so that others don't have to. This travesty is why. Cops are there so people who can't defend themselves have someone they can look to for protection. Men and women who answer a call to serve their peers, to place the lives of others above their own, and serve their communities as protectors and role models. Not people who are there to collect a check each couple of weeks. Not people who are there so they can wear the team jacket/jersey to say they're on it. Not cowards who let fear determine their actions. When you place people who are either incapable or unwilling to make sacrifices for the lives of others, or are just unmotivated to do the right thing, people die. In the best case scenarios, both as a cop or as an infantryman you get yourself killed. In the worst case, like what happened here, you get other people killed. I hope that chief, and every one of the cops who knowingly sat back and did nothing have a nice life. I hope whatever peace they find to justify their actions to themselves, is worth it. I hope the weight of all of that innocent blood on their hands, doesn't ruin whatever sense of self respect or dignity they have. The lives that were lost there are lesson enough. It is all of our duty to remember this painful lesson, or we risk repeating it.
There needs to be a heart react instead of just a thumbs up. Cause I loved this and agree 1000%. You hit the nail right on the head. I hope they can live with themselves knowing they allowed this guy to go and kill these kids, while they just stood there and twiddled their thumbs. They not only let themselves, team mates and community down. They let the entire nation down by not charging ahead and stopping a national tragedy.
Respect man and you’re still a infantrymen it’s the mindset not if your in or not it’s what you would do and sacrifice for any random person on the street to protect them and give your all to help them if necessary if that’s killing a armed suspect or rendering first aid in a situation like this. I have never been to combat myself but I know many that have and I have the upmost respect for my leaders that would lead me into battle. I have learned a lot in my 3 years in the Army as a 11c and I am proud to say I would put any persons life over my own if necessary do I look for war no but if it’s what’s needed I would fight to my last breathe of air to defend anyone. Hope you have a peaceful rest of your life and stay safe brother🤙🏼
Breakdown: law Enforcement failed, schools failed, and bureacracyhas failed to allow the truth to prevail. In short, all the government has made everything worse, harder, and more expensive
The government also comes to pick up your garbage, provides fire protection and rescues, EMS, provides police protection (subjective in Uvalde though), and many other services. Saying that I don't totally disagree with you, you make a good point.
@@Thunderbyrd. The government doesn't provide garbage, fire protection and rescues, EMS, or police protection, rather, those are municipal, and typically run by towns instead of any state entity.
@@Thunderbyrd. I'm in Baltimore. My government doesn't do any of that... But more to the point, these things were done better, before government got involved. (Funding, incentives, bureacracy,etc)
But to be frank, they will be always a government Like law enforcement Remove the law = no government = chaos = building a new government = Corruption = backlash = Remove the law, it's a full circle, it's just a sad thing in this society
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“You can’t sit outside while kids are dying inside” and “you do what you can or die trying” are great points donut. And you’ve been a cop you’ve been in swat. That’s why I definitely respect your opinion more than glorified news readers
As an academy instructor once told my class, "somedays it sucks being a cop". You made an oath. You already have your affairs in order before you mark on duty. Your wife and kids know you love them before you leave in your cruiser. You signed up to be the person that runs in. Your neighbors trust that you will be the one that runs in. No one lives forever. Go in and do your damn job no matter the cost.
Sometimes it doesn't take any special expertise to see what was obvious from the start: A severe lack of courage and ability to think for themselves led to this situation being far worse than it should have been.
@@rjm8373 I wonder what kind of culture could've formed these two features, maybe the one fostered by the people making up 80 percent of Uvalde's population... these people come to a worthy place built on solid values only to keep their old ways and mentality, even generations after moving in. Be careful with the kind of people you let in, Americans, don't be as naive as we Europeans were.
I understand some of these people might think, "Damn, I could get hurt", and that compels them to wait, but they often forget that they're getting hurt right now. Being shot, especially with body armor, especially so close to first responders, with modern medicine isn't typically lethal. You can in many cases recover from being shot. You won't recover from listening to children die for an hour and thirty minutes.
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The chief should not just be fired for extreme incompetence, he should be charged as accessory
Honestly, yeah. If he wasnt there the officers likely wouldve done their jobs properly(or at least better)
No he needs to be charged with murder. The officers that didn't have the balls to do something should be charged as accessories
Hanged 100%
dereliction of duty exists in policing
Listening to how this went down this Chief is a straight CLOWN 🤡 anyone who has been in the military and the police knows on watch/duty first thing you equip is your radio, channel checked. Shit hit the fan and his whole career displayed itself in that moment. Officers in the school should of disobeyed the order. It was lawful to do so. Deal with the paperwork after.
"You do what you can or you die trying." Fuckin right brother.
Not if you're a cop you don't. Cops do not have a duty to protect citizens. Courts have agreed this. The whole "protect and serve" thing is just propaganda, marketing. They protect themselves, they serve their comrades. Donut can pretend he'd act differently but he'd be outside with the rest of those good cops who were doing their job properly listening to kids get murdered one after the other.
Yoooi
Fuckin A.
Can't just give up nor do nothing.
It's about others and others' lives are involved, especially children.
No doubt! Donut operator nailed it
Perfect example of "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing"
Damn right. Sure, it's hard to tell your boss to go screw himself and go get yourself into the line of fire, but it's necessary. And not just in this extreme example, this is how most of our country is crumbling right now. "Not my job.. I asked and they said no, I did good." No, no you didn't. Good would be quitting your job to do the right thing.
Doing the right thing is instinctual. You either do or your a pussy.
@@RogueShadowTCNLike the poem “First they came” or the “cougars eating faces” party, no one expects the worst to happen to them.
We believe, or we hope, nothing bad will happen to us. That makes it hard for us to put ourselves in danger or even discomfort to help others.
Overcoming that self preservation idea that “I’m all that matters” is difficult for a lot of people. To some it just doesn’t make logical sense on why you’d put yourself in danger to save someone.
No good men were there.
"...just holding the hallway, while they're hearing shots being fired"
That is fucking sickening.
Yeah man and they were kids! Kids! 🥺
Chief should go to jail. Theres got to be something that we could get him on. Maybe assistance in mass murder. I dont believe he didnt do that shit on purpose. Sickening
Sounds like shots fired were at door. But there is a chance a few of those kids might have survived the initial barrage of 100 rounds before cops arrived. Plus they supposedly taught ALICE training but for some reason teachers told kids to play dead which is incredibly stupid.
@@-Sober- assistance in Mads murder. What
@@MrSinEon have you never heard of charges like aiding a burglary? Assist is a synonym for aid. Aiding in the murder of over a dozen people. So, aiding a mass murder
So you're saying the Uvalde PD just held the hall while the shooter played duck duck murder? Everyone in that department should be replaced. The chief for being incompetent and the rest of the officers for failure to act.
Absolutely agree. The fact this is even a "discussion" is a problem.
There is no duty to act, and no accountability.
@@teemann8379 That doesn't mean you can't fire every one of them.
@@coryCuc wanna bet? They deserve worse IMO.
@@ls-420stoner6 They aren't elected officials. They don't need to be impeached. The entire police department could be disbanded tonight if they wanted to. But of course they won't. Yes, they do deserve worse. Absolutely.
There was a cop in Canada that stopped a shooter that barricaded himself after shooting 2 people... The cop had a pistol and slid across and got the guy call of duty style....
Sometimes there's men with balls in control and then there are cowards in control... Unfortunately that day we had cowards in control and the kids paid a heavy price for it ..
Those kids paid everything for it...
Where in canada did this happen? I haven't heard of it
On Monday, my school was taking exams and after the first exam was done we went into a lockdown and sat in a corner by the teacher’s desk. About 2-5 minutes in, more or less, the police arrived and started searching the entire school for weapons. Note: A man from Ohio (Only in Ohio.) called the police department saying there was a weapon on campus, police called the school and told them what happened, school goes into lockdown and police arrive. For what feels like an eternity the police get to our room and do a quick sweep, it occurs again about 10 minutes later, except they ask the teacher to open the door, teacher is skeptical, and the police come in and you would not believe the sound of everyone sighing. After about another 15 minutes we get the all clear. And we all go home. I am really glad the police responded really fast and made sure everything was clear. But boy, do I wish the Uvalde police were like these beautiful bastards.
Exactly, idiots like the police here are always shown by the media because the media knows it will stir up hate and other negative things which will then get them more clicks and publicity, and then it makes people have a negative sentiment towards ALL cops, like people are acting like it’s not like all jobs have people that are bad examples, like that’s a given for every job, what do you expect? You don’t see people judge all surgeons when one surgeon is outed for doing something immoral or bad? Like I don’t get it
I had the same thing happen to me in about 2009 2010 at my high-school I went to in Cherokee County Georgia. I was on the bus listening to my ipod and for some reason the busses were lining up but would not let us off the bus. after about a minute I saw a police car drive up the curb and towards the gymnasium from my side of the bus lane just as a kid came running out of the school with about 10 cops chasing him.
We had an on-campus police office at all times, which was great. he was a cool guy.
The suspect had somehow managed to steal an officers gun after being caught trying to sell or trade guns in one of the bathrooms. As far as I know he never managed to shot though.
I've never seen so many cops dog-pile a guy, while barricading him with cars.
They did not care if they messed up their cruisers going up the huge curbs or if the guy shot one of them, as long as we were safe. The response was so fast too I didn't know anything was going on until the cops already had it taken care of.
This all happened around the time frame of my bus pulling into the school, having to drive a complete circle around the school the the bus lane, and then stopping because someone told the busses shit was going down.
we then all piled into the Gymnasium after as a swat team combed the school with dogs. After about 15 min or so of that they gave the all clear and we went home.
I never felt in danger at any point.
It both breaks my heart and is rage inducing to see the sheer incompetence and cowardice of the police in the Unvalde incident. This is ridiculous.
No lie, I was on the skeet/trap team in high school. We practiced after school and kept our guns locked in our cars so we could go straight to the center. So did our coach, Mr. Northcut. This was actually approved by the district. Had to keep them in locked cases in locked cars, but still, that would be crazy now.
The Director surgically eviscerated the Uvalde police chief's career, and indirectly threw shade on almost everyone else that showed up; most of the responding officers also put their careers before the lives of children
I don’t get it. If I legal carried and lived in that area I would’ve went up there. I would bare knuckle charge the guy doing whatever I can do those kids. Surprised more community didn’t just say F it and charge
@@GodLovesYou1624 They tried, the cops disarmed them and detained them.... And parents were held back.
@@GodLovesYou1624 I assume that group of people (like most until they get first hand experience) believed that the people in charge knew what they were doing. And believed the words they heard from them, contrary to what they were seeing.
I don't agree with that.
The officers that showed up couldn't communicate with their completely inept, cowardly and incompetent chief and the only info they did receive from their "chief" was full of incorrect terminology. That would have been a totally confusing cluster f... for all involved. ALL because the man in charge was so woefully incompetent he couldn't even turn up with a radio, didn't understand or didn't use the correct terminology which is VITAL when dealing with TRAINED individuals.
That chief is the problem. It's starts and ends with him. Everyone else was prepared to do their job, and he stopped them.
Such a chit situation all around.
But it's overwhelmingly clear, who to blame.
@@jimmyb1451 how hard is it to go into a building and go hunting for a piece of shit?
The part that really haunted me outside of this summary is hearing how a bunch of parents actually did attempt to arm themselves and go in to deal with the active shooter themselves.
Only for the officers on scene to disarm and then detain said parents.
Like... the fuck is that noise?
Sounds like totalitarianism.
It's called the world being left to mfs who don't have Ghengis KHANs blessing n their bloodline
Sounds like criminal accessory to me.
What the fuck…. Just shows how far gone this country is
@@MrFreakazoid24 when God is lost the devil takes hold
“Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most. And that is the indifference of good men.”
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My cousin was tasked with participating in an investigation of what happened in Uvalde. It seriously fucked with him mentally. He came back to San Antonio a much angrier man than he was before. He doesn’t talk about it at all, and whenever someone brings it up in conversation, he almost immediately finds an excuse to leave the room.
Oh wow…just watched the police investigation they released 2 months ago that caused obvious outrage, where he talked for 25 minutes and said police supposedly followed policy and the ONLY “helpful suggestions “ he gave were “they should maybe change how they lock the doors and maybe change the training for the schoolchildren when in lockdowns” 🤦♀️ nothing close to how this video is pointing out actual failures and police policies. My favorite part is when one of the cops made sure to use hand sanitizer (!?) as he just stood there with the other officers twiddling their thumbs. Anyone who is scared for their life in an adrenaline appropriate situation would not think for one second about using hand sanitizer at a time like that, just one example of the poor response
“What a fckin tard”
Couldn’t have said it better myself, this whole case is rage inducing, the Chief really just allowed innocent kids to lose their lives because of his sheer incompetence. It’s disgusting beyond words.
How does that chief look himself in the mirror every day. He’s been a cop his whole life and had the chance to make a real difference instead of just writing speeding tickets for 30 years, and he cowards out. It was either fear or stupidity...probably both
Less incompetence and more cowardice
@@bobbeezel2593 if he has empathy at all. Could be a closeted psychopath and sleeps absolutely fine.
Every fucking dude that didn't knock his ass out and go in is a coward.
The plan all along was to maximize child deaths for a "higher cause": GUN CONTROL.
14:01 a flawed plan executed violently immediately against an active shooter beats a perfect plan executed 10 minutes later every time
Well said, worst case scenario an officer MAYBE 2 would have been killed but 10 kids could have been saved.
Violence of action works every time.
@@saucedispenser well reality is most of those cops had body armor if they did go in fast and hard as soon as they got on scene, know more than one would’ve been seriously injured let alone killed but still your point stands
This shooting hits way to close to home for me
One of my nieces use to go there my sis got here out an hour before it all happened.
Kids were allowed to go home early that day after giving out certificates.
It's sad and upsetting.
My heart is with those families and the community.
They gave the kids certificates the day of the shooting?
They gave the kids fucking certificates???? And not counseling or ANYTHING??????
@@guyperson1784 Yeah. it was supposed to be a chill day you know? watch movies and such
Everything about that Police Chief needs to be investigated. This is not incompetence this is complicit actions.
He needs to be prosecuted.
It's amazing how Uvalde basically proved the GTA San Andreas Ammunation commercial prophetic. Like "Yeah you could call the police if a criminal starts threatening you, but it takes so long for them to respond to a 911 call that said criminal can just do as they please before they ever show up."
That ad rains true
Life imitating art
It depends where you live.
What?
@@dklien6443 Have a listen to the commercial for yourself.
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Jesus, this makes me furious to listen to. Back around 2000, I was part of a Canadian federal police unit, that did response to an international airport for alien smuggling and illegal migrants. We were not the police force of jurisdiction in the area of our office. The US Border Patrol called us to say that a violent ex-husband had burned down his ex’s mother’s place and almost killed the mom to find out where his ex was. They were fairly sure he had crossed the border and was heading for us. The ex-wife had been moved to the Canadian headquarters just up the street from our office to get her away from her violent ex. They believed that he had passed through the border about 60 minutes earlier and could be at her office very shortly. I passed the information to the local PD, who said that they’d be there in about 30 minutes. I told my the unit commander, a sergeant, that I was going directly to her office to prevent him entering, until the locals got there. He pointed out that we were not the uniform police of jurisdiction, and that it had nothing to do with us. He was right. He was also wrong.
I told him that if she was getting murdered while I sat on my ass, I couldn’t live with it. I was going. He said ‘No.” I looked him in the eye, said “You know I respect you, but fuck you, I’m going.” I ran to a cruiser, set up by the front door with my sidearm (no, I didn’t have a carbine either) and waited for the local PD to arrive. They got there and tagged me off, and it turned out the crazy ex-husband had been stopped by the local PD elsewhere. Things were a little stiff when I got back to the office, but my boss said he understood what I’d done and it was forgotten.
The job of police officers is to put themselves between the bad guys and innocent people who can’t defend themselves. I’ve had active shooter training, the same as pretty much every cop in North America. I don’t care what the incompetent chief tells you to do - YOU GO IN! And with a roomful of screaming little kids at the mercy of a madman… how can these guys sleep at night?
Need more people like you in LE. Bless you for doing what was right, no matter what.
Good for you man, thank you for sharing. It's amazing to me how there can be that many cowards... not one of 20+ officers had the balls to do what is right. They should all be ashamed. And listen, I believe it's extremely and scary and that they have families as well... well then don't become a cop... despicable.
and then everyone clapped
This is the attitude what we need 👍
That never happened.
The Chief in this case needs to be put in prison. His failure absolutely caused fatalities here.
He let them wait 1 hour 14 minutes and 8 seconds before they entered
@@Dark_Clips01 Isn't that insane? Kids were fucking dying!!!!
@@Hawkeye83627 Yep This is. This reminds me about his video about "bad Policing"
The level of incompetence by the commander should be treated as a criminal act. He allowed people to die.
Every police officer on site should feel like a POS. A mom hopped the fence, went into the school without body armor and unarmed, grabbed her kids and left.
Too bad she wasn’t armed.
This all after she was detained and someone helped her get out of it.
Cops would have confiscated her gun. We can’t be trusted to protect ourselves. That’s what the police are for.
who would win, a team of trained, armored, armed to the teeth professional killers with decades of vigorous training and mounted on a landmine-resistant troop carrier or mom
maybe we should have a force of armed people who are trained to stop the shooters.
just my 2 cents
@@Schimml0rd easy, mom. You don’t mess with mamma bear, and heaven help you if you get between her and her kids.
So much for "high capacity magazines" he could have used a 100 year old single shot rifle. He had all the time in the world.
you could say
he couldve done it with a musket
But he did dump 100 rounds in just the first few min
@@SpikeVallen and then he had another hour or so to load 100 single shot flintlocks and fire those off too.
@@SpikeVallen doesn't matter how fast he fired, the fact he gets to shoot at all doesn't make the situation any better.
@@nutmeister1961 he is saying how fast he fired doesn't matter when officers of government that says you don't need guns for self protection spends over an hour waiting outside as children died. At that point, he could have killed that many people with a knife
You know if the short version is 25 minutes, you know it's a rabbit hole
SHORT VERSION 😭 It suck’s that you can say that as a Texan we ALL are ashamed of Uvaldes response time
They let those children down man. They don’t deserve that badge anymore.
Who are "they"? Cause I'm pretty sure it was just 1 officer making a bunch of bad calls.
He got a badge for that? Holy shit
Supreme court has ruled that police are not there to protect you. Law enforcement enforces laws, not rush into flying bullets and risk death.
@@killermogle it is a law to dont kill
@@DesertStateNevada Nope each officer takes an oath "to protect and serve". And standing there not doing something is damned shameful.
After listening to this breakdown, the only word that comes to mind is: Cowardice.
Thank God for BORTAC, Jesus...
Accomplices.
@@NotOfThisWorld567 I mean, it sounded a lot like when the pros got there they went 'What the hell is happening-' breached in and took care of it. Horrendous inaction from everyone involved otherwise.
Or conspiracy to commit cowardice
sounds to me more like government planned school shooting, the chief and school shooter playing the big roles
“A flawed plan executed violently against an active shooter immediately beats a perfect plan executed 10 minutes later every time” ABSOLUTELY 100% agree
My kids would call me way before they would call 911.
And let me tell you, I never want to go through that ever, the scariest part about being a parent is worrying about your kids and their safety.
If I saw cops just sitting around, I have my own personal tac kit in my car and I’m going in. Period.
I know my kids though they would definitely be calling dad, dad always shows up to save the day, not matter what the situation is.
And if saving lives mean I may have to do a little time then so be it, I’ll have a clear conscience knowing as father that I did everything I could possibly do. The greatest reward is knowing my kids are alive and safe. Nothing else matters.
This response to a Active shooter was a total failure and those cops should have to the chief to fuck himself and just go in anyway.
Chief: "Hold back. Wait for SWAT"
Any good boy: "Then I quit and I'll see you in hell!" While running towards the sounds of danger.
The guy at barber: I'm the swat
@@jakubgrzybek6181
WHERE'S MY SHOTGUN?!?!?
"Look at me. I'm the chief now. Leeeeroyyyyyy..."
@@Delimon007 doom music starts playing as he racks that bitch
Just in the movies, unfortunately! Hollywod allowed us to escape reality: lack of courage, no sense of responsability
“It’s easier to bury 25 cops than it is to bury 1 child” - Tim Kennedy
true for both the good and the evil
What a bunch of cowards these so-called cops really screwed up how many children died while police were hiding behind cover nice and safe with the bulletproof vests I couldn’t live with myself. They were scared shitless and useless.
the ufc fighter Tim Kennedy?
@@bigmarc252_7 no the special operations soldier.
@@jon-kd5st both.
This reminds me of the Sewol Ferry incident. Hundreds of people stuck on a ship (that had NO business being out on the water - would overload their cargo, not have anything strapped down, drained of most of the ballast water, added extra floor at top of ship to accommodate an art exhibit with marble walls) as it sunk. PS, the canal they sunk in was known for its dangerous conditions and they chose it to shave 7ish minutes from their arrival time. The nightshift guy in charge of steering turned the wheel 15 degrees (this specific boat knew they were only allowed to turn up to 5 degrees) and the ship almost immediately began to list 45 degrees. Authorities are called, teams are sent…but, somehow, “rescue” doesn’t know there are hundreds of people on board. Essentially only 172 out of 476 people survived that day. But it wasn’t thanks to the officials sent to help. The Coast Guard at the time (they were disbanded due to the incident and reformed later) were mostly there to keep civilians from entering the water and (this part is infuriating) enjoyed ramen together before with their superiors before said superiors went for interviews with the press to say most of the people on the ship were saved - the number of rescues varied as time went on. Meanwhile, parents of a group of high school children were watching the ship sink before their eyes, as the couple of Coast Guard rescue boats circled it. No one was being saved.
The first group rescued included the ship’s Captain - I’d like to say he didn’t get the memo that he’s supposed to stay and supervise, but he made sure to change into some regular clothes, neglecting to tell the rescue team that there’s anyone else on board. He’s known as piece of scum #1 in my book.
However, despite that, literally all of South Korea knew this was one of the typical vessels that takes customers from Seoul (specifically Incheon) to Jeju Island…plus the phone calls to 119 (their 911) were actively being told that there were hundreds of passengers. The Coast Guard said they weren’t aware of passengers beyond the few they saved. Beyond that, the US reached out to the President to offer aid but was refused because they said they got this. Yeah, you read it right, they turned down an assist from a ship that had over 4000 people trained in rescuing under circumstances as tragic as this - all over pride.
From there Coast Guard officers simply sat around waiting for orders - essentially saying, we’ll do something when so-and-so does.
Rescues and recoveries were eventually done by regular citizens. Only 3 members of the ship’s crew stayed behind to save passengers.
But that’s not the worst of it. The whole time the “rescue” efforts went on, the passengers are listening to a PA system telling everything’s fine, to “stay in their rooms”…and they listen. The life jackets on board were YEARS past inspection - a recording recovered later had a student pointing out the year and commenting on how they looked.
Many recovered recordings are heart-wrenching as the students go from mild concern, to joking about death (essentially acting out how they’re in the Titanic), to panic, to acceptance. Many called or messaged their families to apologize for their sins, one said “don’t let my sibling go on a trip and end up like me” - paraphrased due to it originally being said in Korean.
Out of 250 students, on what was an annual trip every class was excited for, 72 returned. Many would later tell others that their greatest sin was coming out alive. The teacher who’d organized the event, but wasn’t able to go with them, later took his own life from the guilt of not protecting the children. The chaperones who went also had tragic stories.
The three crew that stayed. One, a young woman that refused to leave with the rest and was last seen by a student she’d rescued to go find more survivors was later found by divers. The other two, a couple that were excited planning a wedding. None of them survived.
Even the citizen divers faced life-long injuries and some lost their lives to the dangerous conditions within the ship.
And all of this over people, who should have protected these passengers, but chose their own pride. No one wanted the backlash that might come out of it if they tried and failed…so they let others make the choice for them. They later started a blame-game as everyone was like “I may not have done what you say, but such-and-such didn’t do ____”. It was, honestly, the most ridiculous and childish thing I’ve seen a group of adults do. No one wanted accountability for their actions - meanwhile the victims’ families and friends were suffering, blaming themselves for what their loved ones went through. Many ended their own lives due to their own guilt or from the pressures the public - for instance, the teacher that organized the trip had been harassed by the press and people, leading to his mentioned exit. In my opinion, he deserved better.
You can get better details from Rotten Mango on RUclips (they have a podcast too).
The main point is, much like was happened to the people on the Sewol ferry that terrible day, things could have gone much differently if the Chief had just neutralized the threat. If those who were in charge during this shooting actually stepped up (whether to their superior doing nothing or to the challenger hand) and took care of things ASAP. They even refused aid from those more qualified!
Needless to say, those kids could’ve been saved - in BOTH situations.
So, half a year has passed by. I know the officer in charge quit his job and went in to hiding, but are there any charges filed?
Nope
Yeah no and probably never will be. I hate to say it but bad cops in America are far too protected.
Dude, why would you even ask? These were good cops doing exactly what cops do. Protecting themselves and serving their comrades. They'll escalate a traffic stop so they can beat the fuck out of an unarmed, not resisting citizen, but they're not going to risk their lives trying to stop a shooter lol.
There will be no charges. Many will get promoted. Many will kill unarmed citizens in the future (after escalating a simple traffic stop) and be promoted for it. These are cops. This was standard cop behaviour. Their job is not to protect and serve you. That's just a marketing slogan.
@@Aethelhald I assume u haven’t watched many of donuts other videos. Not all cops are like this. Sadly this department were full of inept people and it costed lives.
@@Aethelhald oh yikes
I was actually hoping you'd do this because I didn't think I could watch all of that stream. Thank you so much Donut.
Yeah, I am so glad he is profiting from child murders.
Finally... I waited so long for this video to be made. And now it's finally here.
ruclips.net/video/LE7DSUoGCAw/видео.html
@@personperson2235 you can keep waiting, no one is going to watch.
@@personperson2235 No, delete this comment.
@@personperson2235 whoever you are, wherever you are, however you are, whenever you read this…. Just no dude, just fucking No
The fact that Donut made a short version of the breakdown as well is incredible. Thanks for your service.
@don't be surprised npc?
@@SizzlingPimp spam bots
Nah it’s lame it’s stupid he made a long version
I am crying for the Parents.......I just cant understand
The families of the victims should sue the police department for the wrongful death of their loved ones. What a horrible tragedy. How the Chief and police officers could stand in the hallway and let the shooter kill children is beyond my comprehension. What incompetence and cowardice. Truly disgusting.
Rest easy to all those little souls 🙏❤️
"Pistols should have been enough. The 9 will blow your lungs out right?" Oh damn, ice cold dude.
But a shotgun wont lmao
In close quarters (in a classroom) a handgun isn't a bad choice. It's way faster to bring up onto target than a rifle. Body armor you say? Any cop who can't hit a head shot from across the room please quit.
@@spcpitts even a double tap to the chest would work. But anyone willing to follow that order to stand in place, should not only quit, but be charged, have their badges removed, and find another profession.
@@Saanonymous80 plus every cop has pistol that guy was massively outgunned
@@spcpitts please, headshots arent reliable targets... nobody is trained to that standard. You arent reliably making headshots in a stressful situation, especially when the target is surrounded by innocent children. Stick to your first person shooters larper.
I'm a retired high risk entry team commander. I've been sick ever since this happened. Allowing children to die is unspeakable. Dammit.
tell officer tatum.
The other officers repeatedly tried to go in but were told not to by the chief. He really hurt those kids…
@@christiansmith4159 At some point they should've just told him to go quack himself and go in anyway. I can buy being too afraid to go in, but I can not accept "I was just following orders man" as an excuse.
@@truescotsman4103 omg yesssss!!!! I unsubscribed from him after he defended the cops and then told his subscribers that we owed him an apology for calling the cops cowards! He doubled down! I was done with him after that.
@@ryskbotvladimirivanovic1767 agreed!! That is some bs. Like, I know kids are being murdered, but boss said to sit down, so oh well. Smh pisses me off so badly. 😤
So nice of the DOD to give donut access to MS paint, god bless
Healing experience watching this with you. I screamed, I cried, and got back to work.
Don't entertain the anger, vent it.
Donut, the chief actully said that he felt that radios carried on the persons of officers would be a hindered and he did not carry a radio nor did he want his officers to carry one on the duty belts. I am a ex police officer from a small town in Texas and I carried a radio on my duty belt and this was back in the early 1990's. The chief in my view totally fucked everything up and cost the lives of ALL the kids and the teachers. He should be held accountable and placed of trail for murder.
Held accountable? Yes. He should immediately be barred from any LEO position for the rest of his life.
Charged with murder? Not really. Incompetence doesn’t mean malice. Dude already has to live the rest of his life knowing his inaction (and wrong actions) caused the deaths of multiple people, with many of them being kids.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see him committing self forever sleep in the next few months (though of course Id never advocate for that and do hope he gets help).
Held accountable? Yes. He should immediately be barred from any LEO position for the rest of his life.
Charged with murder? Not really. Incompetence doesn’t mean malice. Dude already has to live the rest of his life knowing his inaction (and wrong actions) caused the deaths of multiple people, with many of them being kids.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see him committing self forever sleep in the next few months (though of course Id never advocate for that and do hope he gets help).
He aided the criminals intentions, and stupidity isn't a defense.
String him up
@@antibull4869 Maybe charges of negligent homicide might brighten the cowards day. He is a coward and I wouldn't care if he did sideways to himself. Would be like if a person came into your house and started hurting people and you sat there watching TV. He did the same. He obstructed justice. He held back anyone willing to end the shooter. If he had to suddenly move out of Texas, I would understand the people.
@@steelrarebit7387 I hate the chief but when you start "appeasing the crowds" by placong crimes that shouldnt be charged you lead down a very VERY fkin dangerous path.
I'm not saying I could face down a school shooter without pissing my pants, but c'mon, what are these guys trained for?
I, for one, wouldn't care if you pissed your pants, as long as you pissed your pants trying to save those kids
They are trained for nothing. They prefer the steady paycheck and to meet their quotas.
I'd be pissing my pants but still dumping rounds at that dude. I'd rather be dead than just sit there.
If you have to fight a bad guy with your pants soaked in piss you do it
Totally ok to piss your pants. Not ok to not go in with blood in your eyes and death in your heart.
I like the intro ad and chill music you put, really shows you care
This is upsetting as a parent I’m heartbroken for the families of these children who lost their lives . All I have to say is I hope that the cowardice exhibited in this ordeal is something they can live with
Im actually disgusted by them calling themselves police officers. When we all take this job and take that oath your signing up to put your life on the line. 4 officers shield, rifle, shotgun and just sit for 50 mins. Should of been stack, push and clear as quick as possible. Hell no shield no long guns should of still been search and destroy. Ive did both for 20 years fire and law enforcement risk alot to save alot!!!!! They dont make men like they used too going to be a scary future.
"They dont make men like they used too" agreed 100%
They were under orders to allow a body count. Body counts = bills passed.
I could've done better with my Glock and no armor. Hell, I would've without even having a badge. Lead, Follow, or GTFO my way. I don't want to go through cops, but I will.
Well... Dismissing the fact that this was, and I'm sorry to say, just another false flag orchestrated psyop, we have the supreme court to thank for this. Multiple times they have ruled that the Police have no duty to protect anyone but themselves. See DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, Warren v. District of Columbia. It's happened before, it'll continue to happen again.
@@Saanonymous80 they would have not hesitated to arrest and/or shoot you before you got to the school. Like they did to everyone that showed up.
I just honestly can’t believe how incompetent the scene commander was.
It was intentional. Accessory to murder.
It wasn't incompetence it was the cowardice of every officer on scene that didn't attempt to stop the children from being murdered, they should all face charges of being accessory to capital murder and be held without bail in general population.
@@thehappyclam3942 I find it hard to believe that it was “cowardice” they had riot shields and ballistic protection. Most people have a moral compass where if your armed you’ll protect children. They chose, not to enter those rooms until he was done, or they got the go ahead.
@UCQ67SkgisVcCYfhE-rsDh1Q wearing gear and then not entering a room with defenseless children does make you a coward.
Nope he acted in perfect for whoever gave his orders
I do appreciate short versions ty
Hey Donut, would be very interested to see your breakdown on the security footage (without the audio) that has been released. It's incredibly eye-opening and as a civilian who's watched it, it's absolutely appalling and disgusting to watch how cowardly many of the Uvalde officers acted within those halls and how there was only one who was truly attempting to push and attempt to stop this son of a bitch (it was an older officer armed with only a pistol who actually took fire and was hit.)
The commanding officer should be up on charges of negligence at a minimum. I hope the parents sue. Many of the murders could have been prevented. There is ZERO excuse for this level of incompetence.
I hope the State prosecutes.
The Supreme Court has already ruled in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services in 1989 and Castle Rock v. Gonzales in 2005 that the state/law enforcement has no legal obligation/duty to save your life, and I doubt that will change any time soon with the current Supreme Court. And with how Texas defines negligent homicide, it would be very difficult to prove that an officer had such an extreme level of indifference that it rose to a criminal rather than a disciplinary level.
Even a civil case would be very difficult to win due to sovereign and qualified immunity, and how Texas handles liability. Even if families were able to establish liability, Texas law divides damages based on who is most responsible, and in this case, it is obviously the shooter. This would extremely lower the damages awarded to the plaintiffs, if they even won their case.
He should be brought up on charges of negligent homicide. Even, aiding & abetting a shooter in the commission of a multi fatality crime.
Cowardly bastage..🤬
@@chasefielstra “…law enforcement has no legal obligation/duty to save your life…” Bruh.
If they sue the chief the city, and therefore the taxpayers, will pay the penalty.
He should be charged with a serious crime, and do serious time.
Okay, if I’m honest I blame all of this on the Chief, but also like you said donut, they should have just didn’t listen and ran in and decimated the guy.
Just a reminder, we blame this all on the shooter. But I do agree the Chief failed at his role and needs to be held accountable.
@@robbiespoonerdrummer eh nah I blame the chief.
People are having crazy mental breakdowns daily....if a fucking chief can't handle these situations they don't deserve to be chief.
Just following orders as usual. But boy, don't let em catch you speeding or with drugs. The police on scene didn't seem to have any problem going "hands on" with any of the parents who actually had the BALLS fo do something. Absolutely disgusting.
Yes. Even if means your job or your life go do what needs to be done.
@@Giliver Why are people having mental breakdowns so frequently these days?? This didn’t seem to happen constantly in the 50s or 60s. Hmmmm…🤔
I was a manger at Walmart, I always had my radio because it’s part of the job, and mine wasn’t life or death, that was such a bad situation due to a chief being an idiot, you always protect the kids, keeping the cops from doing what they are trained for is stupid, just recently found doughnut, you are a real G, I’m loving the rabbit hole journey so far
I use to work security for BISD in Watauga Tx for the middle school there and all i did mainly was walk around and make sure all exterier and interior doors were locked. I did my job so well even teachers would complain about me because once every period I would check to make sure there door was locked. Others teachers told me that before me the other security guards would just sit around and watch netflix. They only paid 11.50 an hour so I ended up having to leave because I didnt wanna work 7 days a week since I had to work weekends to to make ends meet since 11.50 wasnt paying my bills. The administration of BISD told me I would get a raise since I kept acing security inspections and i got a raise to 12.00 LOL so after that school year ended I left. amazon pays me 16.40 an hour and also paid for my CDL training. Teachers dont think about the threats, they leave their door open all the time thinking its cool its for the kids. I had to shut down a teacher from opening a side exterior door in the morning since it was another entrance for a threat, both me and SRO would usually stand at the front entrance in the morning since he had to search certain people. Get better trained security, pay them better, im not saying 20 an hour maybe 15 an hour. it needs to be better with school security. Hell honestly there needs to be a certain security license FOR SCHOOLS.
When seconds count, the police are only minu… hours away.
Making LE’s look terrible.
it's their safety and career over everyone and everything else 🤷🏻♂️ try telling anyone different after this
brits are just screaming ban ban ban ban ban all guns ban ban the consitution ban ban ban everything ban ban just trust the amazing government they care about ban ban ban fuckin ban
When seconds count, the police aren't coming, they're waiting outside...
Because they are lol
Heres a salute to either you or whoever edited this. Taking out that guys weird ass lip smacks was an act of heroism.
Kinda reminded me of the joker lmao
Thank God I missed that part and only watched this video ha ha ha
@@hotdogmilkk My father **smack** was a drinker...
You're A Legend! This One's Sad
Reminds me of a fire we had in the London underground... the police refused to let the fire brigade into the scene and thus doomed everyone there..
The most shocking thing to me is the fact the school classroom doors are unable to be locked from the inside. That seems like a massive oversight in school security.
Wouldn't that have a huge potential of backfiring? What if the shooter locks himself in the room with the children and then starts shooting?
@@defaultytuserif the shooter is already in the room with children i doubt that they will live.
It's crazy that in the US you even have to think about security in schools. I don't think anyone in Germany would even think about building a school with any kind of security in place
@nilsbottjer7129 a person who does not care anymore will choose a place you think is safe. It's going to happen, just when and you will understand. Shit sucks
@@defaultytuser They would need to get into the room in the first place. If that happens then the lock wouldn't have done anything in the first place.
7 vs. 1 with ballistic shields was more than favorable odds. I think this chief should be investigated to see if he had any connections with the shooter or groups that could've supported the shooter. There's no way this is sheer incompetence
its a small town in texas. there is a high chance its sheer incompetence.
7? Maybe at first. There were 376 officers from multiple agencies within and hr, following this cheif's orders. Its despicable
High up Democrat gun grabbers in his ear telling him to hold back.
They wanted a Massacre, they always do, suits their political intentions.
Don’t be a conspiratorial idiot.
Look higher up than that. Look at the federal level.
Thanks for keeping it real Donut.
"RUclips isn't really liking my videos lately."
Well then it sucks to be RUclips because your vids are dope 👌 love em
It verifiably does not suck to be RUclips. I would literally end people for my life to be propped up by one of the largest most evil companies on this earth.
Thanks Donut! Waiting for more facts to come out before covering this one was a good call! Insane poorly handled by LE on scene. Blows my mind imagining them just hanging out in those halls for that long....
Granted, there is nothing wrong with stating "These are the facts as we know it. When we know more we will update it ASAP, if we are wrong then we will correct it. SO here is what we know now" Then gives what information is available,
I guess.... he missed the part where the PD changed their story like 5 times. I think that would be considered important if we were investigating non-police. But I guess they get to make stuff up and not lose any credibility somehow. Funny how that works.
how could anyone be stood there hearing shots and not advance regardless of orders🤨
If they couldn't hear shots being fired, they could hear the gushing blood from the kids. Unimaginable.
Love your vids bro!!
This was more informative than ANY news source I've come across.
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5:09 Donut, that was my understanding. That regardless of backup, law enforcement immediately goes in and neutralizes the threat. Officers or a officer should have given the chief the middle finger and entered the school to engage the shooter. I don’t make it a habit talking about my past to anyone and especially on a social media platform but this incident has really pissed me off. Being a Marine combat vet, I know there are such things as unlawful orders and I’m not equating the UCMJ to law enforcement agencies but that moral standard remains true. There is no doubt in my mind that I would have entered the school and engaged the shooter, with or without backup.
Semper Fi
I'm just a civilian, not a trained Marine like you, but I like to think I would have done the same, live or die.
My thoughts exactly.
Damned straight, I am just a civvie but I would have gone in and engaged the shooter, I'd rather him shoot at me than murder children. Every bullet fired in my direction is one less to use on a child and gives time for kids to escape and law enforcement to get there to take the fucker out.
If my boy were trapped in that school, I would have gladly gone down in an effort to save him. Nothing short of lethal force would stop me, and that would've made this a much more tragic story. "Cowardly police execute father trying to save his son" and nobody could tell me that I'm wrong for it.
Yeah dude that’s one of the first things they mail into your head, we move TOWARDS gunfire not away from it, these guys were pathetic
I just wanna say mad respect to the school resource officer. Even though he got the wrong guy, this dude saw what he thought was the shooter, and with no hesitation drove across the field at 50 MPH to help save these kids. I only wish he got the right guy.
Sounds like he did more than the several armed police which were already there.
I wouldn't lionize the school resource officer just yet. Why wasn't he in the school when the shootings began? I would think his presence would be automatic and part of his duty. Why weren't the exterior doors locked. I'd think that regular patrolling to verify the doors were locked would be another part of his duty. Those kinds of duties are ones you don't wait someone to assign to you if you're the school resource officer -- they're duties you just execute whether anyone else thinks of them or not because your job is to maximize the physical safety of everyone in the school.
that chief should be charged with assisted murder for allowing the shooter to kill so many more victims than what would have been if the chief had just rushed in himself, that coward.
I work in a school, and I can tell you, that those doors don’t always lock onto the latch. That’s why custodians are required every night to check every single door to make sure it properly latched. They will look close and even be closed sometimes, just the latch never fully locked. Especially in old buildings, which are a lot of elementary schools due to lack of funding.
So heartbreaking. So glad to see you aren't just giving the PD a pass on this one. Those children waited for the "superheroes" (cops) to come and save them, and the "heroes" were too busy being scared in the hallway while their innocent lives were snuffed out one after another. In an event where seconds matter, these idiots waited over an hour. What's even more sickening is they prevented people from going in to help and even arrested them. I'm not a police officer, nor am I paid to put my life on the line, but I would have been rushing in there without a second thought if I was nearby. How could these officers just stand by and let innocent kids get executed because the Chief won't give them the go ahead. One child's life is more important than you getting reprimanded or fired for going against his obviously moronic instruction. These cops HAD to have known it was stupidity to wait.
I bet most of the cops on scene would have rushed him if it was not for the chief
Man, you made me cry with that superhero part. It got to the most inner heart pain! And yes you are so right. They were waiting for their super heroes that never showed up.
I agree with what u said except for the part where you would've rushed in. Highly doubt. At first I was on the cops side ( I thought the cops on scene were just the average pistol and taser carrying officers, so i kind of understood why they would be scared, and I didnt know they took over an hour to stop the guy) but god damn way to drop the fucking ball. No kid should fear in school, no cop should wait to put his life on the line.
@@yasmellrodriguez2632 If I heard a shooter, and there were no cops on site yet, and I was armed, yes I would have went in and done everything I could to stop the shooter, even if it meant death. I wouldnt even think twice. To me the lives of multiple children is more valuable than my own.
@@guitarskooter sorry man but its extremely easy to say that when youre not in that situation. Won't take your word for it. Maybe if you were a parent of one of the children I'd be more inclined to believe it :/
Prior Air Force Security Forces here. In active assailant training (RUclips friendly) we were taught to go in. Don't wait for swat. Don't wait for authorization. Go in.
If you didn't immediately hear gunfire you cleared rooms. If you heard gunfire you went straight to it.
At least that's what we were taught. I wasn't in uvalde and I thankfully never had to respond to an active assailant. Personally I can't Monday morning quarterback but what happened there was shameful.
Its a totally different animal... its a lot easier to turn off and get to work when children arent involved... youd hate to be the guy that got overzealous and accidentally clipped a kid. Failure to act is inexcusable but yeah... different ballpark for sure. The incompetence in uvalde seemed almost manufactured...
My training was not to policing but infantry work. This is text book and I mean text book a situation where violence of action would work. 6 to 1 guys.......fuck
@@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 Because it was.
I am a teacher at an elementary school here in Texas. My heart was broken and we had two week left after this happened. The state has taken over school security and safety. They are spending big money on school safety, and I am glad!
Ur so lucky that you get to do vacations just off this youtube channel. Its amazing. I truly look up to you. Your making so much fucking money
Iv just one thing to say...
If that chief had a kid in that school... especially that class room....we would not be having this discussion......those cops would have been in immediately.
definitely
Glad to see you covering this now more informed. A true role model for all types of media.
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@@user-fr8hc9dl2r yeah I know
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Umm...he's literally just rehashing everything that everyone knew the day after.
Right after he crashes his car it looked like two officers approached the wreck, then ran away across the parking lot leaving the shooter to casually stroll about 500 yards towards the school. Unforgivable.
My school said they were taking measures because Uvalde was recent, but they enforce zero of their own precautions. I haven't worn my own entry badge in months, and still manage to get into the building
“We have pistols he has an ar-15”
Shit didn’t know you were playing cod
@u know me gotta love bot accounts
Yeah unlike cod you don’t respawn but they took an oath to protect and serve this is an absolute fuck fest of impotence shame some shouldn’t of took this job
@@Haunttts ^
Funny because the first responders were strapped in that first image lmao
@@desertsmeagol7073 those weren’t really first responders
Those are when the entered the building
They coulda prevented multiple injuries and deaths if they manned the fuck up and went in there like they are trained to
This video is 25:44 long, which is almost 50 minutes less than it took the police to open that door and end the threat
lol
This was a mess none of them cops were ready for something like this rest in peace to everybody who passed
Great summary
Thanks for making short vers. I know it wont have the most in depth breakdown but I cant dedicate an hour. Much appreciated!
@Jacob King you know some people prefer a more edited and short version, that still gives all the same facts, right?
I was a Reserve Deputy for thirty years including the Columbine shooting. I marveled at what a cluster fuck it was, and wht the Officers waited so long to make entry. I made the personal decision that if I was ever faced with such a situation, I would make entry and try to stop the killing, REGARDLESS OF ANY ORDERS TO THE CONTRARY. My moral code would not permit me to do otherwise. As as officer, I was sworn to protect innocent citizens, and I fully intended to do that, even if it meant risking my life.
Thank you for outlining what happened. Guess it really is true about people rising until they meet and surpass their own level of incompetence. Question, how this this chief manage to get promoted to his position when so incompetent?
What secret societies did the chief attend, smells like a rat?
politics
@@mightymikethebear Sadly so, I have more hatred for the chief and cops who didn't disobey and go in then I do for the shooter
I’m trying to figure that shit out too,
Thanks donut
From everything I'm hearing, I don't think it would be at all unreasonable to actually charge the Chief as an accomplice and sentence him as such.
I couldn't even finish this shooting break down. Nothing on Donut, you did a great job breaking everything down but I have kids the same age as those killed. I was getting pissed at the officers for not doing their jobs especially the chief.
😢 same I just can’t finish this
You should be pissed. That is the only way to hold all involved for inept leadership and horrible policing. This to me is pure COWARDICE.
I feel like it's just the cheifs fault from at least 50% and 30% miss communication and then the rest is cowardness
It's pretty sad to see that not even training makes you good at your job
@@yamatokurusaki5790 I would've told the chief or my supervisor or both to slag off and have gone in, I'd rather have that on my resume and unemployment application then dead children on my conscious. Why'd you get fired from your job, told my boss to choke on the fattest and longest of schlongs and went to stop a shooter
Yeah. Got half way and... Nope. Can't do it.
I can't imagine the fear those precious babies felt. My heart aches for all the families!
It's hard for me to watch this
In the picture from the security cam with the three guys stacked up onto shields, and the guy standing around the corner, had a sick mustache
It gets even worse, after the chief was fired his lawyer issued a statement that "Chief Arredondo will not participate in his own illegal and unconstitutional public lynching and respectfully requests the Board immediately reinstate him, with all backpay and benefits and close the complaint as unfounded"(Pete Arredondo Press Release 08-24-2022, page 17). He failed to perform his duties and then doubled down insisting he did nothing wrong.
The bravest person in this scenario was the mother who busted through a window and got her two kids! The rest are suspect at best.
And now cops are reportedly harassing her.
Don’t forget the ICE agent
@@max6325974 because she's got more balls then any of those worthless cops do, and to the cops, they would of rather her children die in that school along with the rest, then make them look bad by doing their job for them 🤦🏻♂️
Shes only brave cause she made it out alive. If she wouldve done that and got shot down right next to her kids and got her kids shot too, people would be calling her ignorant. Same with the police, it doesnt matter what they do people will always judge every single thing they do without knowing all the facts or going through that situation themselves.
@@dookiefingers8436 your delusional if you think anyone would think that a mother going in to save her children because the cops didn’t ends up dying because of it that people would call her ignorant … she’d still be a hero. It’s the most unselfish act of it it all … it’s almost like you didn’t watch this video and see how much of a fuck up they were this day ..
Hey man thanks for the condensed version. I appreciate it.
Enjoy the vacation - this must have been tough to break down.
Man those poor kids 😭😭😭 RIP to not only them but the teachers as well. The sadness that consumed me thinking of this hurts me to my soul. And imagine the survivors..theyre terror, remorse. These kids never deserved this 😭
It infuriates me that the chief was not charged with anything, he and the shooter are solely responsible for all those children’s death as far as I’m concerned
13:04 idk what the cop is thinking. Yes the rounds are different size, and the AR are more deadlier. But a gun is still a gun that could still eliminate a target.
Indoors especially. Without body armor, pistols even have an advantage indoors, due to their reduced bulk and greater maneuverability, which is why special forces units for hostage rescue use compact submachineguns for indoor clearing.
I graduated high school in 2015. The entire time I was in school, every window by every exterior door was thick and had mesh in it; every exterior door that had a window on it was thick and had mesh on it; every door that led to the outside of the building had a very loud alarm that would go off regardless if the door was locked or unlocked, the only way to open the door without the alarm going off was a special key to the side of each door on the inside of the building that would disable the alarm; every door that led to the outside of the school was locked, security would check the doors on rounds, and the main office was able to tell if an exterior door was unlocked and open, and whether the alarm for that door was sounding.
I recently stopped back up at the same school to talk to one of my old teachers. Before you get into the building, you have to be buzzed in by a police officer. Once you're inside the first set of doors, you're locked in there until the officer opens the second set of doors, leading to metal dectectors and a kiosk where you must sign in, be photographed, and provide ID. Only then are you allowed into the main office where you wait for whatever it is you're there for.
What boggles my mind is after Sandy Hook happened years ago, of all things, why weren't the fucking doors locked. Hearing there were seven officers not only at the school, but INSIDE the school, shows this was handled beyond poorly. That chief of police needs removed, and he needs to be liable in anyway shape or form that can be done.
most schools can’t afford new books let alone that quality of security unfortunately
It's crazy how different our schools are. I graduated in 2018, but went back in 2019 and early 2020 to visit a teacher after school got out. I had a guitar case that could very well have been a gun case to someone that didn't know the difference. I just walked in through the open doors, no teachers asked me anything. At the time I didn't think much of it, but with these shootings seemingly becoming more and more prevalent it makes me think. Obviously I would never even think of hurting anyone, but someone else could have very easily just walked in and done some harm. Scary shit.
Where did you go to school? Detroit?? Never heard of that level of security in any school in America
When I was in high school as a freshman …I was at a brand new school …just built… The classrooms had glass walls that open from the hallway , literally the whole school was glass and brick… it’s like they designed the schools for school shooters…. The Nashville shooter literally gained entry by shooting through multiple glass doors… as donut covered a while back.
The chief let those kids basically be butchered. Imagine being one of their parents hearing about this.
When I was in the army, people often asked me why I told a lot of soldiers to leave. Not to find their motivation. Not to fake it until their contract is up only to sign another with a bonus. Not to lie to themselves and say it will get better eventually. To either do their soul searching right now, and find it, or get out. I was an infantryman. My job, was to go to other countries and murder people who intended the US and her citizens harm. To protect others by doing and being capable of unimaginable evils and bearing indescribable pain. To face death daily and not just say, but truly understand that every hour could be my last. To find solace in that I'm doing it because I can and so that others don't have to.
This travesty is why.
Cops are there so people who can't defend themselves have someone they can look to for protection. Men and women who answer a call to serve their peers, to place the lives of others above their own, and serve their communities as protectors and role models. Not people who are there to collect a check each couple of weeks. Not people who are there so they can wear the team jacket/jersey to say they're on it. Not cowards who let fear determine their actions. When you place people who are either incapable or unwilling to make sacrifices for the lives of others, or are just unmotivated to do the right thing, people die. In the best case scenarios, both as a cop or as an infantryman you get yourself killed. In the worst case, like what happened here, you get other people killed.
I hope that chief, and every one of the cops who knowingly sat back and did nothing have a nice life. I hope whatever peace they find to justify their actions to themselves, is worth it. I hope the weight of all of that innocent blood on their hands, doesn't ruin whatever sense of self respect or dignity they have. The lives that were lost there are lesson enough. It is all of our duty to remember this painful lesson, or we risk repeating it.
There needs to be a heart react instead of just a thumbs up. Cause I loved this and agree 1000%. You hit the nail right on the head. I hope they can live with themselves knowing they allowed this guy to go and kill these kids, while they just stood there and twiddled their thumbs. They not only let themselves, team mates and community down. They let the entire nation down by not charging ahead and stopping a national tragedy.
Respect man and you’re still a infantrymen it’s the mindset not if your in or not it’s what you would do and sacrifice for any random person on the street to protect them and give your all to help them if necessary if that’s killing a armed suspect or rendering first aid in a situation like this. I have never been to combat myself but I know many that have and I have the upmost respect for my leaders that would lead me into battle. I have learned a lot in my 3 years in the Army as a 11c and I am proud to say I would put any persons life over my own if necessary do I look for war no but if it’s what’s needed I would fight to my last breathe of air to defend anyone. Hope you have a peaceful rest of your life and stay safe brother🤙🏼
I wouldn’t call it murder my friend, thank you for your service
@@bl4ze1t38 sacrifice is too weak a word for what these bastards did.
Amen brother
Breakdown: law Enforcement failed, schools failed, and bureacracyhas failed to allow the truth to prevail.
In short, all the government has made everything worse, harder, and more expensive
The government also comes to pick up your garbage, provides fire protection and rescues, EMS, provides police protection (subjective in Uvalde though), and many other services. Saying that I don't totally disagree with you, you make a good point.
@@Thunderbyrd. The government doesn't provide garbage, fire protection and rescues, EMS, or police protection, rather, those are municipal, and typically run by towns instead of any state entity.
@@Thunderbyrd. I'm in Baltimore. My government doesn't do any of that... But more to the point, these things were done better, before government got involved. (Funding, incentives, bureacracy,etc)
But to be frank, they will be always a government
Like law enforcement
Remove the law = no government = chaos = building a new government = Corruption = backlash = Remove the law, it's a full circle, it's just a sad thing in this society
And then they scapegoat gun our gun rights off the back of their failure
When dads were more competent than the police
Seems like someone needed this to happen! To much incompetence for this to be a mistake! The poor parents and children, like wtf!