@@cameronbosch1213 Exactly...I mean how dope would it be if they had a dedicated GPU with bigger batteries in the base while a CPU and integrated GPU in the screen and you can just detach it at any time anyhow...like what a wasted potential only because they don't wanna take risks and invest in such a fantastic product.
Love my OG Surface Book, 😅 runs well with some issues with the keyboard connection and a swelling battery. In comparison, my Surface Laptop Studio feels like a compromise.
Considering that the planning, writing, and design for these keynotes starts months and months before the event, I don’t think Panay announcing that he’s leaving less than a week ago affected what they were planning to talk about. It’s not like they just suddenly dropped all future plans and are wandering aimlessly days after he left lol
lol yeah very silly why they thought so, also even when Panay was there for the exiting future looking devices they were all Surface isn't it, mostly upgrades of existing Surface, which happened here or dual screen stuff that went nowhere into the future
Considering you also just dont announce your retirement from a CPO position without discussion with your company. I think the event is planned, wrote and designed for that.
Surface Pro is the most popular form factor among all Surface devices. But no new model for Surface Pro this year, not even a refresh, seriously? I have no idea what Microsoft is thinking.
No need this year. Just upgrade the processor by one gen? Just wait for 14th gen. Meanwhile, SLS2 is a bad mf'er people have been clamoring fir with updated specs
I'm not, the dude failed 9 times to put the 4G/5G modem into the Surface Pro and raised the price of surface products so that only companies and education would buy them with discounts losing everyone else who would give the device a go.
I own a first generation surface book and it's a great device. But it started giving me problems with the hinge. It was a nightmare! Even worse, I can't update the surface book to windows 11 due to the CPU not being compatible. By 2025 it's going to be obsolete due to the end of windows 10. I would not be buying a surface product for a while. The surface laptop studio grabs my attention but I have a feeling they're going to toss it to a side eventually.
Oh, sorry. I have the Surface Book 2 and it can run windows 11 but I'm staying on windows 10 for now until all the missing features get ported to 11. My hinge is still perfect after 3 years of use.
The whole Microsoft Device Division is a Confusion - 1) They just introduced Surface Duo & then shot down it without giving another try 2) Without any reason Surface Book, Surfave Studio, Surface Headphone is gone 3) No new Surface Keyboard / Mouse 4) Current Surface Line Up Name is too long, not easy & confusing also I dont know why Microsoft is neglecting Surface but it will fail just because for them. Of other company get surface devices they would rule the world, but as it’s Microsoft so they are killing this
I wish Microsoft didn't close down their Microsoft Stores, as it was a good place for an average Joe like me to go and check out the new Microsoft products, and maybe even purchase them. I miss my Microsoft Surface Pro 4, but I had to dispose of it because the battery was swelling up.
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 I literally don't care about how good the A.I is implemented since I am always going to access it from the browser. I need a form of windows thst works on thentouch based systems and the on coming gaming handhelds, working with ARM processors so that I can install crack version of windows on high end smartphpnes with desktop modes and change the way we interact with computers just like it was revolutionary almost 15 years ago.
About the trackpad, they should have made it much bigger. They have a lot of room inside that machine for a bigger touchpad, and where is my 16-inch version? Surface Laptop Studio should have a performance base version with 16-inch 3000x2000 with 120Hz or 165Hz with Gsync, and a much bigger battery (99Whr instead of 56Whr like normal version), Intel Core i9-13900H, RTX 4070 / RTX 4000 Ada, 64GB RAM and 2TB of SSD. I dont think people is gonna mind the higher price if there is a much thoughtful update.
Now for me my problem with @Microsoft and windows is I don't know what they are doing there, as an OS company they are not behaving as one they are not putting in enough effort in their OS and by the time they realize it might be too late.
@@leonardputtmann8404 ok then if they prefer to create and prioritize other things other than their own os which is the grounds for those things to run and also having the largest user base, then fine just like if they want other 'OS' companies to dictate for them what they should do and have their product bias(am not saying Windows is a Saint but for me they are the only overall balanced one, every company is doing it even the big linux os companiesare starting to) over them then fine.
I have the original surface laptop studio. The problem I had with it is not having a usb A. The slim pen 2 doesn't seem to be working very well with this one. The battery life they claimed was not true at all. But that's a great machine with versatile use.
This surface laptop studio 2 is what I've been waiting for for a long time and... I'm quite disappointed. For the price of the only competitive model, which is the maxed out one, I can buy a MacBook pro AND an iPad with pencil. I'm not an apple user, I'm not a fan of anyone, and I always used windows and Linux, but at this point it seems to me that apple wins this and the near future rounds
I agree with your point, but if you're dependent on certain software (either professionally or personally), then the Apple ecosystem isn't always usable. Not even with the current Windows virtualizations. Unfortunately, and I do think Apple comes closer and closer.
@@Acer113Yeah, I could never use macOS. It feels ancient and toy-like compared to Linux or even Windows. I mean, how do you not have window snapping or menu bar overflow menus in 2023!?
I was also expecting the 2nd gen of the surface studio but dont know what u are really looking for but wont say am disappointed rather not fun or innovative enough just power bump. Now for me my problem with @Microsoft and windows is I don't know what they are doing there, as an OS company they are not behaving as one they are not putting in enough effort in their OS and by the time they realize it might be too late.
@@cameronbosch1213 yea but at least they dont only implement and add new things exciting things but also improve their os for their consumers to be excited for. Won't say the ai is bad or not exciting but for me my part of life am not excited when there are issues and improvements I think they should tackle
RUclips reviews need to understand that graphics on laptops isn't just for gaming. There is a huge industry of engineers that need graphics for 3d intensive work. That said, the surface laptops are always too expensive compared to the competition and are more for bosses looking cool while those who do the work get equivalent gaming laptops that are as powerful for 30% less the cost and have to suffer the hideous gaming centric design.
At this point I'd have a hard time ever spending real money on a Microsoft expensive piece of hardware. I loved the surface line up because it focused on touch and stylist devices. And since Apple doesn't offer anything with touch on a desktop level I'm not even looking at those products. But Microsoft just is charging too much and you can now find better clones from Lenovo in many cases to on the surface Pro. They have not done a good job with arm chips, they removed the SD card and the headphone jack from their Surface Pro devices. They got rid of the surface book and replaced it with a fairly redundant laptop studio go. They didn't support the surface duo 2. giving it only one OS update. I think the only way I would buy a surface device at this point would be if I saw a great deal on a used Surface go or something. But full price MSRP at launch¿ For Ultrabooks with middling performance and mediocre battery and no SD card or headphone jack support? No thank you
My thoughts exactly! They use to be amazing because they offered stuff that rivaled only apple because of their design. The laptop hasnt been updated with a new design EVER. And the price increases are just too stupid, especially with so many catching up
Microsoft supplies the OS to manufacturers like Lenovo though. I imagine that Surface lineup will scale back but that is an opportunity for us consumers to see what manufacturers will come up with.
@@briannhinton Agreed. I have a Samsung Galaxy Book Go. Pretty low-end and with an Arm processor. The Samsung software in it are all running emulated 32-bit, so it slows down the laptop even more.
Decisions on product planning span years. Has anyone thought Microsoft decided to phase out the Surface and handheld lines (refocusing that expenditure on A.I. related products) thus giving Panos the motivation to plan for a future outside Microsoft? Surface is an expensive project with very small returns.
Every consumer brand from Microsoft to Apple to Samsung to Ducati or BMW etc is in ‘profit protection’ mode. No big new launches, nothing early in the product cycle, just evolutionary updates at minimal cost & just enough to generate incremental price rises. Global recession, baby!
They let greed and brand recognition go to their head. They still have the best writing experience on windows, but their designs are dated and too expensive!!
Microsoft is not even spending enough attention on Windows nowadays, which is arguably one of the main reasons for the existence of the Surface product line - to provide a benchmark Windows experience.
Surface displays just all together are really dated now. Companies are having higher resolution OLED displays for cheaper or the same price, including Apple
It is tough, I hope they'll turn it around and keep Surface alive, but if they don't then eventually we'll have to find alternatives... Being a loyal Surface user since SP3, I certainly hope for the better. But even the Surface Studio hasn't got a proper upgrade since many years ago, and not sure if getting Surface Studio 2+ is a good idea at the moment
I mean Apple doesn't even have a touch screen yet though on their desktops. I know you can give me a list of reasons why you don't care but anyone that does care means they can't even consider it as a viable option.... I've been using a touch screen for a decade, it's ingrained in my muscle memory. It doesn't matter how great apples track pads are or even their silicon. They don't have any products to accommodate people that need touch on a desktop operating system. And the iPad is definitely not that, since there's no side loading or proper file manager or multi-monitor support.
"nowhere near as powerful." I mean the difference between a core i3 and a core i5 is not that significant. Obviously at the entry level there's a big difference but that's a little overstated.
If I were to give a solution as a Microsoft surface, Executive, I’ve develop a new windows, specifically for surface computers, and will make it more fancy and optimized for surface devices. New user interface, which will be only available for surface computers.
Call me crazy, but I think this AI push has the potential to come back to bite MS in a large way. We're seeing lawsuits from authors for training these datasets on their work without permission, and I think it's very reasonable for a court to side with them on it. Why would anyone trust that they are in the clear to use content generated by an AI if the content it is trained on was not cleared for use? And acquiring permission retroactively on that dataset seems impossible for the kind of scale we're talking, since you're not only dealing with massive amounts of books in the dataset, but also forum posts, assorted scraped webpages, etc. It's possible the courts don't side with authors, but it's crazy to me that massive companies are jumping this deep into this without fully knowing the legal ramifications yet.
ARM? You'll be wanting for ARM until ARM isn't cool anymore. Yes, RISC is the future, but I don't think ARM will pan out on the desktop outside of Apple Silicon because there's the old chicken (the developers aren't writing ARM software because there isn't enough ARM users) and the egg (there aren't enough users because the software users need doesn't exist) problem.
They’ve been doing ARM based Surface since the very beginning (RT). It’s been more than a decade now and they still haven’t gotten off the ground. I doubt anything will change especially now since Panos Panay is gone.
@@cameronbosch1213 I mean the issue here isn't MS, it's Intel who's a big partner for MS...unlike apple who said f u to intel, MS can't do the same, also qualcom and ARM makers haven't made enough progress to make their chips compete with intel nor run x86 apps fast enough
I adore what microsoft is doing. Yea, they have to do AI. But they beefed up their tablet-laptop SLS2 to be a workhorse. When it's worth doing so, they'll upgrade the pro lineup. Boom: tablet-laptop, laptop-tablet, and they still have their outright laptops. They have a device for any use, they've found their niche. Meanwhile, they're doing the whole AI thing ahead of the rest of the industry. It works!
I wish they would just drop the numerical suffix from their product lines because their naming scheme is already confusing without because insisted on using the word "Surface" in every single portable product line!
Microsoft has become so lazy and greedy. Their pro line is legendary, but their laptops never have been updated, go's are way too expensive, and the laptop studio NEEDS to have a bigger screen option
@@pieceofshitzu2 Agree. There's lots of good windows computers but the surface lineup even makes Macbooks look like good deal. I did like the surface book but thy removed it. They make good hardware in terms of design, display and keyboard but always release with out of date internals.
I bought the original surface book. Screen cracked, they replaced it. Screen cracked again, out of warranty. Bought a surface laptop 3. Screen cracked, replaced, screen cracked again, replaced again (kindly out of warranty), now my 3rd one has cracked. I am very careful with my devices, never had a scratch on any of them. Just ridiculous.
The EU has asked all products to move to USBC, so yes, its old news. Having just USBC in a few years will be fantastic and in 10 years' time, the youth will wonder why people wanted to hold on to USBA as much as they did!
Microsoft biggest issue is the pricing. In the age of Android and iOS , Microsoft has to focus on bringing the cost down first to create a market. They think they are equal to iOS and Android devices but that is not just true.
Microsoft cancels a lot of surface device project that he has worked on so hard before the Surface Event. It really broke his heart and decided to leave.
@@shaneethan523 yeah, its like a claimed 18 hours but lasts me 6-7 max. Worst part is its sometimes unpredictable and will drop like 5-10 percent battery in a few minutes for no reason
Panos Panay either needs to start his own company or team up with OpenAI to start a new company. Because the way I see it, Microsoft has no vision for the future of computers...anymore.
Let's just pump the brakes on whether AI will do anything for us. As for MSFT's hardware attempts, there are other hardware partners out there, so it's no big deal.
The surface laptop studio is like that 1st picture of the IPhone in the legendary IPhone premiere. It kind of sad. Microsoft seems to lose interest in very good brands or develops ridiculous tech.
I can't believe they're still dragging their feet with X86. If Microsoft invested some serious RnD into producing a Surface ARM processor, they could even license it to other laptop manufacturers. They are lagging behind Apple severely on battery optimization and it's becoming increasingly difficult to recommend them for portable computing.
The greatest mistake ms made was to kill windows phone. Now copilot would be stuck in the business world. It would also compete with every other A.I out there.
it hasnt been front and center like ai pictures and image reconstruction, but ai seems to be a star player when it comes to audio as well. I mean weve seen the hilariousness youtube videos where top actors and politician voices get the ai treatment (The presidents playing games on discord is my fav) but ai has been helping with speech recognition and translation as well. I have used a few on test videos and it required a pre-process time like video encoding, but using my RTX (It also supported the vega gpu on my ryzen 5 but quite a bit slower) card to great effect. I do wish the public facing part of this research and testing was a bit more timely in updates as the tools get quite old. In the end, MS is not wrong that having an ai chip, even a simple one, in out computers in the fitire could very much be an every day item. It is NOT the type of AI like we see in the movies, they are not personal assistance. These help with the reconstruction of audio and video.
Should have officially brought Windows 11 to Surface Duo. Should have revived Surface Neo. Should have put the AMD 7840U in a Surface. Should have an ARM Surface Go. Microsoft hardware is dead.
Yeah i think its just a sign of the times, the computer hardware industry, espically for tablets and laptops, is basically non existant at the moment. Microsoft will be acutely aware of this. I mean mac sales are down a lot too. People just don't need new versions of these devices at the moment and the upgrade cycles are a much longer. I think we are goin to see this hit smartphone sales soon too. We have seen it to a small extent already but i think we are going to see bit drops in sales soon. We need the prices to fall on these devices and a lot more innovation happening across the industry. All devices r basically the same, just look at the iphone, they just change the colours now and thats it.
I use sleep mode all the time and last night I put it to sleep at 98%, and just now when I read your comment I opened it up and check, it was at 90%...I'm using a surface book 3
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The Surface Book was such a brilliant concept, Microsoft doesn't handle it's products with care at all...
Yeah, I agree. My sister had the OG Surface Book and still misses those days...
@@cameronbosch1213 Exactly...I mean how dope would it be if they had a dedicated GPU with bigger batteries in the base while a CPU and integrated GPU in the screen and you can just detach it at any time anyhow...like what a wasted potential only because they don't wanna take risks and invest in such a fantastic product.
just like google. They kill products prematurely
Love my OG Surface Book, 😅 runs well with some issues with the keyboard connection and a swelling battery.
In comparison, my Surface Laptop Studio feels like a compromise.
I got the surface book 2 in 2019 and won’t replace it until it’s completely defunct. Great thing
Considering that the planning, writing, and design for these keynotes starts months and months before the event, I don’t think Panay announcing that he’s leaving less than a week ago affected what they were planning to talk about. It’s not like they just suddenly dropped all future plans and are wandering aimlessly days after he left lol
lol yeah very silly why they thought so, also even when Panay was there for the exiting future looking devices they were all Surface isn't it, mostly upgrades of existing Surface, which happened here or dual screen stuff that went nowhere into the future
Considering you also just dont announce your retirement from a CPO position without discussion with your company. I think the event is planned, wrote and designed for that.
I always find it interesting how vastly different Microsoft and Apple treat their products and their visions of the future.
Surface Pro is the most popular form factor among all Surface devices. But no new model for Surface Pro this year, not even a refresh, seriously? I have no idea what Microsoft is thinking.
The Surface Pro will most likely get Intels new Meteor Lake chips and these will be released in December so we have to wait a bit longer I guess.
No need this year. Just upgrade the processor by one gen? Just wait for 14th gen. Meanwhile, SLS2 is a bad mf'er people have been clamoring fir with updated specs
Copilot, they should’ve just brought back the paper clip
I really wish they gave us a modern take on Clippy, to bring some personality into their dull generative glass environment
Most people hated clippy back when it was a thing, the only people who want it back is for nostalgia. copilot is 100x more functional.
@@strigani-gaming I know
@@DarcMagikian but that’s the only reason why I want it back is because of the nostalgic
Sad to see Panos leaving. I'll miss his incredibly emotional and passionate presentations of Surface products.
I feel like he’s also one of the reasons surface was held back especially with the duo community and lack of software updates
@@mikivliNo. That was the reason why he left, because apparently MS wants Surface to focus only on the Pro, laptop and Go lines.
I'm not, the dude failed 9 times to put the 4G/5G modem into the Surface Pro and raised the price of surface products so that only companies and education would buy them with discounts losing everyone else who would give the device a go.
@@ericneo2 I agree overpriced af for decent specs for the same price and apple computer seemed like better deal with more to date specs
He always got me 'pumped' for new Surface laptops
The pricing for the Surface laptop studio 2 is atrocious.
$2k with no gpu!!
These guys are on crack !
I own a first generation surface book and it's a great device. But it started giving me problems with the hinge. It was a nightmare! Even worse, I can't update the surface book to windows 11 due to the CPU not being compatible. By 2025 it's going to be obsolete due to the end of windows 10. I would not be buying a surface product for a while. The surface laptop studio grabs my attention but I have a feeling they're going to toss it to a side eventually.
Oh, sorry. I have the Surface Book 2 and it can run windows 11 but I'm staying on windows 10 for now until all the missing features get ported to 11. My hinge is still perfect after 3 years of use.
The whole Microsoft Device Division is a Confusion -
1) They just introduced Surface Duo & then shot down it without giving another try
2) Without any reason Surface Book, Surfave Studio, Surface Headphone is gone
3) No new Surface Keyboard / Mouse
4) Current Surface Line Up Name is too long, not easy & confusing also
I dont know why Microsoft is neglecting Surface but it will fail just because for them. Of other company get surface devices they would rule the world, but as it’s Microsoft so they are killing this
I wish Microsoft didn't close down their Microsoft Stores, as it was a good place for an average Joe like me to go and check out the new Microsoft products, and maybe even purchase them.
I miss my Microsoft Surface Pro 4, but I had to dispose of it because the battery was swelling up.
The sad new is Mr Parney resignation. He is such a fantastic speaker. Best ever.
When are they going to optimise Windows for ARM processors and touch based UI systems ?
That’s been a complete trainwreck so far.
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 I literally don't care about how good the A.I is implemented since I am always going to access it from the browser. I need a form of windows thst works on thentouch based systems and the on coming gaming handhelds, working with ARM processors so that I can install crack version of windows on high end smartphpnes with desktop modes and change the way we interact with computers just like it was revolutionary almost 15 years ago.
That’s what they think Windows 11 is. They did a small touch update for it with 22H2, and it has native arm support.
About the trackpad, they should have made it much bigger. They have a lot of room inside that machine for a bigger touchpad, and where is my 16-inch version? Surface Laptop Studio should have a performance base version with 16-inch 3000x2000 with 120Hz or 165Hz with Gsync, and a much bigger battery (99Whr instead of 56Whr like normal version), Intel Core i9-13900H, RTX 4070 / RTX 4000 Ada, 64GB RAM and 2TB of SSD. I dont think people is gonna mind the higher price if there is a much thoughtful update.
Now for me my problem with @Microsoft and windows is I don't know what they are doing there, as an OS company they are not behaving as one they are not putting in enough effort in their OS and by the time they realize it might be too late.
Look at Microsoft's revenue streams. The days since they were an OS company are long, long gone.
@@leonardputtmann8404 ok then if they prefer to create and prioritize other things other than their own os which is the grounds for those things to run and also having the largest user base, then fine just like if they want other 'OS' companies to dictate for them what they should do and have their product bias(am not saying Windows is a Saint but for me they are the only overall balanced one, every company is doing it even the big linux os companiesare starting to) over them then fine.
I have the original surface laptop studio. The problem I had with it is not having a usb A. The slim pen 2 doesn't seem to be working very well with this one.
The battery life they claimed was not true at all. But that's a great machine with versatile use.
This surface laptop studio 2 is what I've been waiting for for a long time and... I'm quite disappointed. For the price of the only competitive model, which is the maxed out one, I can buy a MacBook pro AND an iPad with pencil. I'm not an apple user, I'm not a fan of anyone, and I always used windows and Linux, but at this point it seems to me that apple wins this and the near future rounds
I agree with your point, but if you're dependent on certain software (either professionally or personally), then the Apple ecosystem isn't always usable. Not even with the current Windows virtualizations. Unfortunately, and I do think Apple comes closer and closer.
@@Acer113Yeah, I could never use macOS. It feels ancient and toy-like compared to Linux or even Windows.
I mean, how do you not have window snapping or menu bar overflow menus in 2023!?
I was also expecting the 2nd gen of the surface studio but dont know what u are really looking for but wont say am disappointed rather not fun or innovative enough just power bump.
Now for me my problem with @Microsoft and windows is I don't know what they are doing there, as an OS company they are not behaving as one they are not putting in enough effort in their OS and by the time they realize it might be too late.
@@SourceCodeDhotxMystic macOS is aging bad too though.
@@cameronbosch1213 yea but at least they dont only implement and add new things exciting things but also improve their os for their consumers to be excited for. Won't say the ai is bad or not exciting but for me my part of life am not excited when there are issues and improvements I think they should tackle
Say “Hi” to the lady waving in the background from me at 5:19
RUclips reviews need to understand that graphics on laptops isn't just for gaming. There is a huge industry of engineers that need graphics for 3d intensive work.
That said, the surface laptops are always too expensive compared to the competition and are more for bosses looking cool while those who do the work get equivalent gaming laptops that are as powerful for 30% less the cost and have to suffer the hideous gaming centric design.
At this point I'd have a hard time ever spending real money on a Microsoft expensive piece of hardware. I loved the surface line up because it focused on touch and stylist devices. And since Apple doesn't offer anything with touch on a desktop level I'm not even looking at those products. But Microsoft just is charging too much and you can now find better clones from Lenovo in many cases to on the surface Pro. They have not done a good job with arm chips, they removed the SD card and the headphone jack from their Surface Pro devices.
They got rid of the surface book and replaced it with a fairly redundant laptop studio go. They didn't support the surface duo 2. giving it only one OS update.
I think the only way I would buy a surface device at this point would be if I saw a great deal on a used Surface go or something. But full price MSRP at launch¿ For Ultrabooks with middling performance and mediocre battery and no SD card or headphone jack support?
No thank you
My thoughts exactly!
They use to be amazing because they offered stuff that rivaled only apple because of their design.
The laptop hasnt been updated with a new design EVER. And the price increases are just too stupid, especially with so many catching up
Microsoft supplies the OS to manufacturers like Lenovo though. I imagine that Surface lineup will scale back but that is an opportunity for us consumers to see what manufacturers will come up with.
My problem with other manufacturers is the bloatware. Microsoft’s bloat is at least easy to remove. HP, Dell, etc. is the software to update it.
@@briannhinton Agreed. I have a Samsung Galaxy Book Go. Pretty low-end and with an Arm processor. The Samsung software in it are all running emulated 32-bit, so it slows down the laptop even more.
Decisions on product planning span years. Has anyone thought Microsoft decided to phase out the Surface and handheld lines (refocusing that expenditure on A.I. related products) thus giving Panos the motivation to plan for a future outside Microsoft? Surface is an expensive project with very small returns.
Every consumer brand from Microsoft to Apple to Samsung to Ducati or BMW etc is in ‘profit protection’ mode. No big new launches, nothing early in the product cycle, just evolutionary updates at minimal cost & just enough to generate incremental price rises. Global recession, baby!
Global ReCeSsIoN? More like companies continue to get greedier.
Surface was the only remotely-interesting thing from MS and now it's no longer interesting. They are truly IBM.
They let greed and brand recognition go to their head.
They still have the best writing experience on windows, but their designs are dated and too expensive!!
Microsoft is not even spending enough attention on Windows nowadays, which is arguably one of the main reasons for the existence of the Surface product line - to provide a benchmark Windows experience.
man, I wished they reduced the screen bezel. I currently have have a dell xps 15 (2018) still working strong.
Surface displays just all together are really dated now.
Companies are having higher resolution OLED displays for cheaper or the same price, including Apple
Where is the previous RUclipsr 0:33
If the AI is so smart it should disable the automatic windows update
I need ai supercomputer adaptive learning to bring back the second hand on the freaking windows clock.
How does Microsoft plan to pay for and buy all the hardware for all the compute that copilot for consumers will need?
That haptic trackpad was in the original laptop studio. You guys really didn't bother to fact check
It is tough, I hope they'll turn it around and keep Surface alive, but if they don't then eventually we'll have to find alternatives... Being a loyal Surface user since SP3, I certainly hope for the better. But even the Surface Studio hasn't got a proper upgrade since many years ago, and not sure if getting Surface Studio 2+ is a good idea at the moment
Panos Panay is the best product presenter since Steve Jobs. He makes you feel connected to technology as an extension of you.
4:15 wtf is with the blue suit guy walking creepily in the background 😂
The only use I see copilot being useful is in Microsoft Teams, automatically taking notes, actions. Now that is useful
What are the prices?
Are the usb-c thunderbolt or just usb-c?
Microsoft: we finally caught up with apple's 10 year old trackpad tech :D
Apple: We’ve added usb C to the new iPhone after 7 years
@@RagnarokSensei its about damn time :D
@@RagnarokSensei😂😂😂
Remember Windows Phone? Aaahahahahahahha
I mean Apple doesn't even have a touch screen yet though on their desktops. I know you can give me a list of reasons why you don't care but anyone that does care means they can't even consider it as a viable option.... I've been using a touch screen for a decade, it's ingrained in my muscle memory. It doesn't matter how great apples track pads are or even their silicon. They don't have any products to accommodate people that need touch on a desktop operating system.
And the iPad is definitely not that, since there's no side loading or proper file manager or multi-monitor support.
"nowhere near as powerful." I mean the difference between a core i3 and a core i5 is not that significant. Obviously at the entry level there's a big difference but that's a little overstated.
1:32 Microsoft didn't add pen charging. That was on the original.
12th Gen Core i5
Sub 1080p display
Non-backlit keyboard
$799
LMAO
Tbh, the surface line does not appeal to me anymore.
If I were to give a solution as a Microsoft surface, Executive, I’ve develop a new windows, specifically for surface computers, and will make it more fancy and optimized for surface devices. New user interface, which will be only available for surface computers.
5:19 , if you want to say Hi to the lady in the background
Call me crazy, but I think this AI push has the potential to come back to bite MS in a large way. We're seeing lawsuits from authors for training these datasets on their work without permission, and I think it's very reasonable for a court to side with them on it. Why would anyone trust that they are in the clear to use content generated by an AI if the content it is trained on was not cleared for use? And acquiring permission retroactively on that dataset seems impossible for the kind of scale we're talking, since you're not only dealing with massive amounts of books in the dataset, but also forum posts, assorted scraped webpages, etc. It's possible the courts don't side with authors, but it's crazy to me that massive companies are jumping this deep into this without fully knowing the legal ramifications yet.
I have no idea what they're doing anymore. They've given up but also still keep going
I love competition! We need powerful ARMed CPU windows laptops now.
ARM? You'll be wanting for ARM until ARM isn't cool anymore. Yes, RISC is the future, but I don't think ARM will pan out on the desktop outside of Apple Silicon because there's the old chicken (the developers aren't writing ARM software because there isn't enough ARM users) and the egg (there aren't enough users because the software users need doesn't exist) problem.
They’ve been doing ARM based Surface since the very beginning (RT). It’s been more than a decade now and they still haven’t gotten off the ground. I doubt anything will change especially now since Panos Panay is gone.
@@cameronbosch1213 I mean the issue here isn't MS, it's Intel who's a big partner for MS...unlike apple who said f u to intel, MS can't do the same, also qualcom and ARM makers haven't made enough progress to make their chips compete with intel nor run x86 apps fast enough
@sumomaster5585 AMD though.
Windows-on-ARM is a complete trainwreck. And now ARM is losing ground to RISC-V. Are you expecting Windows-on-RISC-V? Forget it.
Why are you talking about the surface go 4?
Great video!!
So will Surface products survive without him?
What's good on microsoft today is animation and motion graphic on their presentation
I adore what microsoft is doing. Yea, they have to do AI. But they beefed up their tablet-laptop SLS2 to be a workhorse. When it's worth doing so, they'll upgrade the pro lineup. Boom: tablet-laptop, laptop-tablet, and they still have their outright laptops. They have a device for any use, they've found their niche. Meanwhile, they're doing the whole AI thing ahead of the rest of the industry. It works!
I wish they would just drop the numerical suffix from their product lines because their naming scheme is already confusing without because insisted on using the word "Surface" in every single portable product line!
I never found a touchpad better than Apple’s mac book. Lets see if this one get even close enough
Currently on Asus ROG Flow 16, can't seem to see any difference between this touchpad and mac's one.
Did you ever try to?
Microsoft makes way more interesting products then apple, glad i switched from Apple to Microsoft👌🥂
Not at this event 😂
Microsoft has become so lazy and greedy.
Their pro line is legendary, but their laptops never have been updated, go's are way too expensive, and the laptop studio NEEDS to have a bigger screen option
@@pieceofshitzu2 Agree. There's lots of good windows computers but the surface lineup even makes Macbooks look like good deal. I did like the surface book but thy removed it. They make good hardware in terms of design, display and keyboard but always release with out of date internals.
Thanks Tom
I bought the original surface book. Screen cracked, they replaced it. Screen cracked again, out of warranty.
Bought a surface laptop 3. Screen cracked, replaced, screen cracked again, replaced again (kindly out of warranty), now my 3rd one has cracked.
I am very careful with my devices, never had a scratch on any of them. Just ridiculous.
Surface Laptop Studio 2 looked good until I realised it had a 58 Wh battery.
I feel Microsoft surface lineup. All they need is a great showmanship and customer service.
cant believe we are using the word legacy for USB A
The EU has asked all products to move to USBC, so yes, its old news. Having just USBC in a few years will be fantastic and in 10 years' time, the youth will wonder why people wanted to hold on to USBA as much as they did!
@@andyH_England yes , if i have to buy a new peripheral , having USB A is a dealbreaker for me now
Looks very good imo. Will wait the reviews to come out before buying it. My 5 years old Razer Blade is giving up already hahahah
These are so overpriced. Honestly- go with a Mac or another Razer
@@pieceofshitzu2 i just prefer Windows over mac and the razers are so bad with costumer service
Should put copilot into Cortona
Microsoft biggest issue is the pricing. In the age of Android and iOS , Microsoft has to focus on bringing the cost down first to create a market. They think they are equal to iOS and Android devices but that is not just true.
AMD Framework 13 will rip these apart
Why is Panos leaving? Anyone know the reason? He was great.
Microsoft cancels a lot of surface device project that he has worked on so hard before the Surface Event. It really broke his heart and decided to leave.
I think he felt too overworked with the windows roll and wanted to get back to gadgets. Thankfully he probably mad copilot happen before he left.
Wait did the original surface studio book had a full size SD card reader and the current one went to a micro SD one?? What a joke...
That Studio Laptop looks horrendous.
Cortana is alive?
So no new surface laptop 6 but they do a surface laptop go 3…
For what?
They haven't updated the design in 5 years!! I'm gonna just jump ship to Apple if they don't do something
sad that there is no new surface pro
I guess they can start with an android phone with copilot built in
Microsoft updates surface to 13 gen after Intel anounced next gen chips. 😅😅😅😅
This is their apple 1996 moment where they cut back on half arsed products and nail just a few
RIP Surface Book, and now maybe Surface Pro 😢
I have the sls first gen, constantly had issues and had to replace 4 times, absolutely ridiculous. Way overpriced too
I have the first gen sls too and the battery life is horrible.
@@shaneethan523 yeah, its like a claimed 18 hours but lasts me 6-7 max. Worst part is its sometimes unpredictable and will drop like 5-10 percent battery in a few minutes for no reason
@@benson4820 I'm right now thinking of purchasing a Macbook pro next year.
@@shaneethan523 yeah, I would have bought a MacBook Pro over this if I didn’t hate Apple so much
Panos Panay either needs to start his own company or team up with OpenAI to start a new company. Because the way I see it, Microsoft has no vision for the future of computers...anymore.
Let's just pump the brakes on whether AI will do anything for us. As for MSFT's hardware attempts, there are other hardware partners out there, so it's no big deal.
I really like Panos. Sad to see him leave MSFT.
The surface laptop studio is like that 1st picture of the IPhone in the legendary IPhone premiere. It kind of sad. Microsoft seems to lose interest in very good brands or develops ridiculous tech.
Surface presentation isn't not that great in future microsoft will definitely lose surface market if they didn't come up with proper surface team.
Panos was the best in his career
in tablet mode the screen should be flush with the body of the laptop
I love my surface laptop
..since 2015 and running like new
good bye surface pro, for ever, that is what i felt on the presentation
They should just bring back the paper clip 😅
I can't believe they're still dragging their feet with X86. If Microsoft invested some serious RnD into producing a Surface ARM processor, they could even license it to other laptop manufacturers. They are lagging behind Apple severely on battery optimization and it's becoming increasingly difficult to recommend them for portable computing.
5:19 well hi there
A week back resignation is not going to impact this presentation. May be the next year it may.
The greatest mistake ms made was to kill windows phone. Now copilot would be stuck in the business world. It would also compete with every other A.I out there.
Microsoft also does its self bad when it overprices the surface line
No new Surface Pro 😢
What about Surface Pro 10?
No update :(
Have they finally put the 5G modem into the x86_64 Surface Pro?
it hasnt been front and center like ai pictures and image reconstruction, but ai seems to be a star player when it comes to audio as well. I mean weve seen the hilariousness youtube videos where top actors and politician voices get the ai treatment (The presidents playing games on discord is my fav) but ai has been helping with speech recognition and translation as well. I have used a few on test videos and it required a pre-process time like video encoding, but using my RTX (It also supported the vega gpu on my ryzen 5 but quite a bit slower) card to great effect. I do wish the public facing part of this research and testing was a bit more timely in updates as the tools get quite old. In the end, MS is not wrong that having an ai chip, even a simple one, in out computers in the fitire could very much be an every day item. It is NOT the type of AI like we see in the movies, they are not personal assistance. These help with the reconstruction of audio and video.
MIcrosoft had an event?
Should have officially brought Windows 11 to Surface Duo. Should have revived Surface Neo. Should have put the AMD 7840U in a Surface. Should have an ARM Surface Go.
Microsoft hardware is dead.
what every user of the surface line see and wanted, but MS couldn't for reasons only known to them...
Yeah i think its just a sign of the times, the computer hardware industry, espically for tablets and laptops, is basically non existant at the moment. Microsoft will be acutely aware of this. I mean mac sales are down a lot too. People just don't need new versions of these devices at the moment and the upgrade cycles are a much longer.
I think we are goin to see this hit smartphone sales soon too. We have seen it to a small extent already but i think we are going to see bit drops in sales soon. We need the prices to fall on these devices and a lot more innovation happening across the industry. All devices r basically the same, just look at the iphone, they just change the colours now and thats it.
The Surface line is dead, and it died with Panos.
If Microsoft was Google they would have killed Surface already 😂
Microsoft is that over excited guy who makes all the pedantic plans for the future only to drop them later.
Just wait 9 months and all will be revealed
Honestly, I didnt like the Panos Panay Era. I hope Microsoft gets a fresh look
Windows OS is worst. It doesn't even has proper sleep mode. Every time i put it into sleep mode next day goes into complete 0% battery.
I use sleep mode all the time and last night I put it to sleep at 98%, and just now when I read your comment I opened it up and check, it was at 90%...I'm using a surface book 3