The Dark Secret Behind the Creator of Tintin
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2020
- Tintin is one of the world’s most beloved comic book characters. However, his creator Herge has a dark secret no one wants to talk about. During World War Two he was accused of being a nazi collaborator. From his time in the Boy Scouts to working for a conservative catholic run newspaper, Herge’s past has always been haunted with accusations of racism and xenophobia. However, his time working for the French newspaper Le Soir, which was being run by the Germans during WWII, is a moral quandary on another level.
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This is a stupid and bad presentation of Herge.
He was investigated for collaboration and found not guilty.
He was deliberately anti racist in "The Blue Lotus", where Tintin takes a stand against a brutal white man who's abusing a chinese (the white savior trope is still racist in it's core, but it's a big step forward for the time) . In Tintin in Amerika he was sympathetic to the native americans who are forced away when oil is foind.
Herge was a well behaved catholic boyscout, and so was Tintin. The colonialist view of Congo is awfull in modern eyes, but it was not controversial in the 30s. Tintin in the Congo is a fine example of european mentality at the time, but it should not be used to judge Herge as a bad person. That's a stupid and ignorant thing to do.
In _King Ottokar's Sceptre_ the peacefull country Syldavia is threatened by their militaristic neighbour Borduria, who are modelled after Nazi Germany down to the Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighters.
In _The Broken Ear_ we get a very educational illustration of how a gun salesman is selling guns to both sides in a pointless war in South America.
I would argue you get a better and more nuanced understaning of the early 20th century by reading the Tintin stories themselves, instead of this video.
The question isn't if Herge deserved a second change, but if Weird History does.
Facts bro the African stuff is a bummer but he still wrote very woke books
Glad I saw this comment, you’re exactly right
You may be right but the way Arabs and Indians are presented in his comics was racists.
Arabs, Indians, Africans, South americans... even when he was trying to correct himself and say nice things about them, he was still using the cartoon tropes of his time.
That doesn't make him a nazi sympathiser or a propagandist.
Don't make Hergé the villain.
In "Land of Black Gold" the funny bumbling (and brutal) Emir Ben Kalish Ezab is being manipulated by the scheming Dr. Müller (a white guy with blue/gray eyes) who wants control over the oil production, but boyscout-jurnalist and white savior Tintin saves the day. The best scens goes to prince Abdullah, the impossibly spoiled son of the emir.
This is made as a fun adventure for children, and the cultural sensitivity is comparable to "Road to Bali". But "white guys" absolutely DID (and do) manipulate oil producing countries.
For a children's adventure, you're getting some pretty sophisticated insights into global politics.
@@yehyabadr2488 And the Thompsons make the British look bad. Grow up.
That's all interesting, but you fail to acknoledge the many villain characters in Tintin's stiries that are axis forces caricatures, mocking Nazi/Germans, Japanese and Italians.
doesn't change that he worked with nazis, does it?
@@dav1d1312 no... It doesn't change. But makes it slightly more complicated.
@Lord Farquaad , probably worse than homelessness. He'd likely have been imprisoned or worse.
So he made racist cartoons about Japanese people too is what ur saying?
@@ch-wn5hn yes cause mocking rapists imperialist savage forces is racist
i don’t rly see how working for a newspaper that the nazis occupied makes him a nazi. like he needed to work somewhere, doesn’t necessarily mean he was a supporter
Caezero that doesn’t really make him a racist lol
@@caezero2072 No dude, he wanted to provide for his family. His country was already taken over and they all surrendered. There was nothing more to do. He was just a cartoonist and a storyteller. Dafuq could he do?
The Emperor I agree- you have to always take Herge’s personal life into perspective. He was always shaped my circumstance- both in his personal life and career. Belgium is always the nation that got abused by more superior nations like Germany, Britain, France and even the Netherlands all across its history. Post-WW1 Belgium was a hotbed for corruption and political uprising hence why the Rexist party came into power so quickly.
Herge in my opinion was no racist or nazi (not intentionally at least- hence why he wanted to correct his wrongs of his exploited past) but he was shaped by them which is evident in his career. It wasn’t until three important things occurred in his life that made him realise the truth about the world:
1) Meeting Zheng - a person that shaped his life for the better over a long person of time.
2) Joining Le Soir - allowed him to be a storyteller with more personal lee-way towards what he wanted Tintin to be until the Nazi’s took it over. He wouldn’t get an opportunity like that until Leblanc comes along.
3) His divorce of germaine and his new marriage to Fanny Rodwell. Fanny Rodwell really opened up his eyes about what a modern world might look like - one of peace and harmony like Zheng was preaching to him as a confidante since the interwar period.
That’s why Herge maybe a character of controversy but he was a storyteller and cartoonist- also at the end of the day he made Tintin his own. His own son. The son that he could only have through Herge’s imagination and ligue claire narratives. You could argue that he redirected his narratives, himself and his son onto the right path at the end and all he wanted was forgiveness for the wrongs he had done in his earlier years- yet we haven't really accepted his artistic apology- maybe he is still waiting for our response even in death and maybe quite depressingly he might never know our response even if he is waiting beyond the grave for anything...
Something is still seriously wrong with his thinking from his other works. You can’t convince me that his heart isn’t evil and hateful at its core
@@adiaj9228 Noones heart is evil and hateful at it's core. Nobody is born evil. Stop saying stupid shit. The guy literally wrote about how he had bad influences in the beginning and the place he was at really made everything worse. Does his first first books are very iffy resulting the bad priest influence? Sure. Did his works get better once he met actual proper influence and saw different ppl and more about the world? Yea, obviously. And dude, seriously, he's a dead cartoonist who just made couple of comic books. Calm the F down.
Herge openly mocks Nazis and Fascists in several of his books. He also was opposed to racism and was a very intelligent man. He portrays the Chinese and many other members of other cultures as equals. While he had stereotypical caricatures in some of his books, these were common at the time. Not to mention, he also admitted how these caricatures were foolish and inappropriate. Herge was a great man.
he was a genius, that's obvious.
Nevertheless, if you take a look at the vilains _ Rastapopoulos, Omar Ben Salaad, Zakharine_ they all appear sepharadim, very clearly.
@@imanolduhalde You're conveniently ignoring other villains like Alan, Muller, the Bird Brothers, Colonel Sponz, Colonel Tapioca. And Sakharine isn't even a villain in the comics, that's only in the movie.
@@Blokewood3 So biased...Alan is only a pawn of Rastapopoulos, Muller is a jewish name (just check), as is Loiseau (Bird is only a transliteration), Sponz is probably based on a jewish name too (Ploni), Tapioca is a mockery of the Tupi people (as were the Arumbayas a mockery of american natives).
Yes it is hard to accept the ugly truth.
Muller isn't a Jewish name. It's German occupational surname that some Jews possess. The majority of Muller's ate not Jewish. It is the most common surname in Germany.
@@cooldewd35 It's both, about half of Muller namebearers are jews, of course ashkenazi. The origin of the name is shrouded in mystery, still in most probability stems from ancient hebrew אוילר.
The Dark Secret Behind the Creator of Weird History
I’m telling you it’s Stephen Colbert. Listen to that voice and tell me it’s not Colbert.
@@kateoconnor30030 ohh you're right! i always thought he sounded like ari melber as well.
@Katie O'Connor I think you’re on to something 🤔
I think he sounds like John Meachum
Katie O'Connor Colbert sounds more nasal and less refined with the speaking style
When I was a young boy and liked Tintin pretty much, noone told me that the character Bohlwinkel (Blumenstein in the english version) in the comic The Shooting Star was supposed to be representing any particular race, so I just took him as a typical businessman of any nationality/race/whatever.
Someone Else Yeah, but as an adult, when you look at it, it’s blatantly anti-Semitic. Which is really too bad.
I'd be surprised if anyone under the age of 15 understood the antisemitism in it.
Lol fair enough the term business man is basically is just a by word for immoral cheating scum bag anyhow so who cares what race he is
Those kinds of messages have two meanings, one that seems benign to those not in the know, but another to those who have been indoctrinated or told what it really means. The fact that you didn’t see the anti-semitism shows that you hadn’t received any of those harmful messages as a kid. However, if you had you probably would see the character in a very different way as an adult.
“Anti-semitism”
Oh wow, someone who was clever enough to not get himself, his family and his friends killed during the war... how dare he...
People forget germany was taking over the world, and fail to accept that life must go on regardless of what the political climate is.
Imperial Guard hitler wanted to avoid war, he wanted previously owned german land..
@@reflx Nah, Hitler was just another fascist who wanted to dominate the world because he was a shit artist.
@reflx_ oh, that’s why Germany invaded France.. And Russia.. and eventually they would try the same with the UK. What was that about German lands?
@@noireisbest6786 go watch ur shitty anime. Loser.
I have been watching this channel for a while and find your videos rather interesting, but I believe you got the completely wrong idea when it comes to Hergé. He single-handedly created his country's most famous citizen, even though that same country would unrightously blame him for the horrors of nazi occupators. While the racism depicted in his earlier works is very well documented and condemned by most people (even himself), you cannot convince me that Hergé was anything but left-winged after his meeting with Zhang Chongren. Hell, you would have a hard time convincing anyone that has even read a page of the Blue Lotus that Hergé was any kind of a nazi-symphatizer after the absolutely unorthodox way he depicted the white man and their savage way of treating the Chinese (a clear stance against racism) and the horrific Japanese invasion of China (a clear stance against imperialism).
Ever since the Blue Lotus, Hergé studied extensively as to accurately and truthfully depict the cultures he would have Tintin visit, and the way he's always symphatetically and accurately, rather than stereotypically depict cultures and races have always been decades ahead of his time. Even in the Castafiore Emeralds, where Tintin protects the Romanis when everyone else believes they're the cause of everything bad happening in the story, and even in the Seven Crystal Balls, where Tintin protects a native Peruvian from being abused by two older Hispanic men simply for being a native. Doesn't sound much like something a nazi would do, does it?
You make it seem as if Hergé was in it solely for the money and had no care for the people he was working for, but you explained it yourselves; the nazis monopolized the paper in Belgium. No paper that was not accepted by the nazis was allowed to continue publishing. Hergé was a NEWSPAPER COMIC STRIP ILLUSTRATOR. He worked for the PRESS. There was nothing else he could've done to survive but to work for whatever paper was he was offered, he didn't do it because the pay was nice, he did it because he wanted to survive. In truth Hergé was very critical of greed. In fact, big business corporations and their treatment of ethnic minorities and nations as a whole for the sake of money and greed alone has always been highly criticized in the Tintin albums, even before he met Zhang, he clearly takes a stance against the way whites have treated and manipulated the native Americans in Tintin in America.
As for Bohlwinkel, you claim that he's Jewish although there is no proof at all that he indeed is Jewish, other than his name sounding very Jewish. After he found out that people thought the character was supposed to be a Jew, he explained that there was never any intent to depict him as anything but American, and that his name is Bohlwinkel because he was named after a candy store called "Bollewinkel".
Oh, you also completely skipped his other comic strip series "Quick & Flupke" where he doesn't indirectly, but directly, makes fun of Hitler and criticizes his beliefs and values. What kind of a nazi would do that?
Even if Hergé was a nazi, a nazi-symphatizer, or just didn't bother about anything but for the amount of money in his pocket, it really makes no difference. Anyone, ANYONE, who grows up with Tintin, grows up with the most important values and morals of today. Protecting the weak, taking a stance against bigotry and unrighteousness, curbing your ignorance, exploring the world, and always having friends beside you, and any Belgian would be blind not to agree that Hergé is one of the most important Belgians in history.
tl;dr: please do not believe Hergé was a bad man, he was not. Read some Tintin books if you don't believe me.
Sebbe he probably didn’t change his mind on black people.
"He single-handedly created his country's most famous citizen." Herge created Jean-Claude Van Damme?
@@Blaqjaqshellaq Van Damme is pretty famous, yeah, but I'd argue most people outside of the western world have no idea who that is while Tintin is recognizable in most countries on Earth, in some places more than others, and as such he is more famous than Van Damme is.
@@theguyspodcast5782 In the Red Sea Sharks Hergé condemns the enslavement of African Muslims by Europeans and had Tintin save them, so yes, I do think he changed his mind on black people.
@@8888sebbe I was joking...
Intentionally leaving out the times of Tintin fighting Axis enemies and having a click-bait title are not good for a channel's reputation. You're better than this.
Actually the channel is not better than lopsided click-bait. Neither are most comments. I like the point a comment made about the sliding moral scale. People just want to be indignant. Makes them feel empowered, but makes them look petty.
@@kerriwilson7732 Good to know. I'll be washing my hands of this cheap-click youtube channel and never looking back then.
@@_Braised I can't tell sarcasm from gratitude, but thanks ;- )
This channel is purely click-bait, and trash content
@Stella H Indeed weird... not tabloid. As in I don't want tabloid fodder but actual and full history of the weird.
“My creator was a Nazi wannabe? Great snakes!”
-Tintin, probably.
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He wasn't, read my large comment.
Read Tintin in the Land of the Soviets and Tintin in the Congo
@@TomorrowWeLive read everything else. In my comment in this section I've already explained in large details how these two issues are not proof that he's a nazi. Take the proper time and proper context to read these comics. I've read them both many times.
@@TomorrowWeLive Of course you've got an Oswald Mosley pfp.
A lot of effort has been exerted to find something incriminating about Herge when the work speaks for itself. Tintin saved kids and animals from tyrannical characters, fought against corrupt governments and abusers of power, and was always ready to put his life on the line for the common good and that of his friends no matter their racial profile. Sure his background was problematic but he did not commit crimes and worked hard to right the wrongs. Redeemed by his work for sure.
You know, Nazis thought they were doing the same thing, right? Fighting against tyrannical governments, saving the downtrodden, correcting injustices. Everyone thinks they are the good guy.
Nobody knew about Death Camps until a couple of month before the end. The Allies just thought they were concentration camps and not much evil was happening. Becuase all sides had concentration camps. Boy were they weong. Sending those pictures to the German army broke its morale.
Not saying Herge was a Nazi. Your evidence doesn't prove one way or the other because both sides thought they were the heroes. The evilness of the Nazis were hidden from Germans just as much as it was hidden from the rest of the world
@@trunkage You've missed Theo's point entirely. Is there any art the Nazis created that shows today that they put everything on the line for the common good and the downtrodden no matter their racial profile?
@@_Braised no. They stole everybody else's art.
@@kcbh24 exactly. Herge's work clearly shows he was no Nazi sympathiser.
@@trunkage you know, I've gotta tell you: your history is off.
"Did Herge deserve to be allowed back to the world of comics ?"
I don't see why not ?
Of course! He didn’t ask to be supervised by Nazis. If Tintin wasn’t fictional he wouldn’t let that happen.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 11 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Appreciate the spoilers in the comments, saved me 13 minutes of my life.
By the standard of this vid of calling Herge a racist you must also call good old Walt Disney that for what he showed in the very old cartoons.
You might be thinking Tex Avery and The Looney Toons. And yes, they were racist.
I dont think many people would argue that Walt Disney wasnt racist...
Because they WERE racist
@@ch-wn5hn your point being ?
ch! It was the 40s everyone was racist in some way
The man did what he had to do to survive, I don't think his past undermines his works with such a beloved, iconic character at all.
He did much more than that,
He originally signed up to join the army though was declared un fit for duty
In the early days he made several passes at the nazis in his comic, His life was threatened by the Gustavo twice, And early tintin has a long history of being strong armed by editors. He spent a lot of his money on his family and friends who were out of work at the time, As well as Spent it to send his brother food through the Red Cross as he was being held as a prisoner of war by the nazis this entire time.
And after all of that he Just barely escaped Being executed by his own people. Which send him into a massive depressive self destructive spiral.
After everything he apologized and spoke to how much he regretted The caricatures that did make it in And made an effort to correct them in Reprints.
He was not a perfect man but I respect him greatly.
Funny to see how the author makes a slight of hand trying to portray Hergé's Catholicism as leading to Facist tendencies. A pretty sneaky and cheap shot at Catholics in general.
Yes he's just trying to create drama or sound interesting . It's stupid
yeah, it's not like the Catholic church helped hundreds of Nazi's escape after the war or anything, the Catholic church have always been very pro-Fascist. As soon as Mussolini took over Italy the Church supported him. So beside raping a lot of kids the Catholic church was definitely in bed with fascists
That was Belgium at that time. Religion become a tool for political gains and social turmoil. Look at my comment 11 months back and you will understand more about the context of Herge's life.
Heard of the inquisition?? Crusades??? And yes most Nazis were Christians!!!
@@donaldtrumpwon2168 yes heard of them, and no, they are not portrayed in a historically accurate way. No, Nazis were actually anti-Christian. You are not Christian if you stop acting as one.
You really fail to say that herge also writes mocking racism, in one episode, tintin literally defends a chinese person abused by a white man, damn clickbait
A racist white man attacking a Chinese person and it clearly depicts him as racist and in the wrong
Before I even clicked on the video I thought “so what’s it gonna be? A nazi? A racist? Probably both.”
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Also a sexist!
I thought it was going to be that he was possibly the illegitimate son of the Belgian King, which is also out there....
Yeah, not really a 'secret' to be honest XD
Pretty much a man of his time.
Fallout Boy had a dark past
Didn't realize the band was that old
Do you mean THE fallout boy? Like from the fallout games?
Vault Boy....
@@imjodokast No, Fall Out Boy
What is a Dio
"[During the occupation] I worked, just like a miner, a tram driver or baker! But, while one found it normal for an engineer to operate a train, members of the press were labelled as 'traitors'."
--Georges Remi
I'm a reporter myself. Tram drivers, bakers and miners are generally anonymous because their work is taken for granted, so they rarely become public figures in even a minor way. They become part of the landscape. Journalists' names and faces get out there and give the angry a target.
Propaganda is way heavier than a working tram
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Pretty much. We really like to pick and choose who we burn at the stake. Non-Nazi Europeans who directly contributed to death camps and war atrocities get a complete pass, even when they were driving a train to a concentration camp. But heaven forbid a cartoonist has a job.
Oh, wow.
Edit: Didn’t seem like he was actively participating in the Nazi politics. He might’ve been racist, but from that perspective (and the perspective given from the video) I think the second-chance was an alright decision.
In modern standards it might be racist and antisemitic but back in the Days that was completly normal stuff.
@@ArtjomKoslow yeah, nothing special here tbh
@@ArtjomKoslow nope, just because racism and antisemitism were more broadly accepted back then (but was it really, looking at the state of the world today), doesn't mean it was less racist or antisemitic. Has nothing to do with standards.
@@tv9049 Humans are social creatures. You cannot claim that being a racist among the tolerant is equivalent to being a racist in a sea of more racists. It takes far more bad will to be hateful when everyone is pushing you to be good.
@@tv9049 It has a lot to do with standards, social norms and society itself dictates what is seen as racist/sexist. For example you can argue that many movements of today are racist/sexist as they mainly focus on the betterment of one soul race/sex rather than arguing for true and exact equality. I'm talking, of course, about mainly the more extremist sides of said movements. Example: the feminist movement, a lot of feminists (not all) go out of their way to discredit and slander white males and often maintain a negative image of them. Another example being the radical side of the black lives matter movement, they claim to be for equality however under the same breath they curse and judge people based on their careers. Some even go so far and discredit some people because they aren't a person of color. Also extremist members of these movements [BLM and the Feminist movement] often demonize anyone who isn't a part of their movement or apply the same prejudices which they argue against to outlying groups.
Although these movements are seen as social justice and aren't considered necessarily racist/sexist according to society, perhaps in the future we will look back on them as what they really are. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying what is in the past was ok, all I'm saying is by their societal standards it was the societal norm.
I’m not Tintin expert but I specifically remember several moment where Tintin is defending natives against invaders and European racists. He literally saves his best friend Chang from a yeti long after having a vision of his friend in the Alps or some such. Those are the moments stood out to me, told me Herge isn’t this racist you portray.
Already I see many comments disproving your claims with more detailed examples.
Hergé knew what he was doing lol maybe it's US who think he's racist because all those stuff. But he was born at that time of course he would wrote Tintin story like having Nazis criminals villain or Japanese and Chinese conflicts
We living in different time :D
@@mikashi1593 you don’t make ANY sense at all. NOTHING you’ve said makes sense AT ALL and it doesn’t matter WHAT “different time” you were living in, all that matters is the stuff you make and say and you can still be a terrible person regardless of whatever “time period” you were in.
And we’re living in a “different time” right now doesn’t change anything that he could have made. Use your head and stop saying excuses here.
@@OttoWatt9000 imagine being salty to someone u don't know lol
@@mikashi1593 Imagine being thinking like THIS and not realize what’s been you’ve said wrongly, it doesn’t matter if I don’t know him personally, NOR do I have to. What you said was just out of ignorance and nonsensical. I’m not “sAltY” at all, I’m just BAFFLED from the nonsense your saying and the really NOT ANY GOOD excuses you’ve laid out here. Just stop.
@@OttoWatt9000 then why u need to put such efforts to backslash me like a hatred?? I was just saying what was in my head and nothing else. I'm not a god mode theorist like others in this video and then u came here putting a bomb and thinking that whether is right or wrong opinion random ppl has, it's unacceptable anyway. Yea what a good day to kill somebody, sir
Even Dr. Seuss has some questionable cartoons (if not down right racist) in his early work, but he clearly had changed his thinking after that.
In 1942 he published a cartoon caricaturing Japanese Americans as "fifth columnists" and enabling their notorious internment.
He also wrote a lot of "Snafu" cartoons. As well as racist newspaper comics.
Only thinking he changed was if he didn't rid them, he wouldn't get paid.
@@Blaqjaqshellaq Blaming Dr. Seuss for Japanese internment is just fucking stupid.
@@ButtonsCasey ?????
Yeah, seeing others' comments here is kinda relieving, 'cause I find this video to be really off on Hergé's intents. For the 1920's and 1930's, he was actually really open minded in portraying different cultures and characters. There was conservative pressure in his first volumes, and that's been documented and it's evident; but after The Blue Lotus, it was absolutely harmless. Let's not forget the times he was living in; the World was one big stereotype.
I actually think The Blue Lotus was quite good in its portrayal of Chinese. And yes, the Japanese are portrayed in a racist way, but they kind of deserved it given what was happening at the time.
@@peterwallis4288 I completely agree
@@peterwallis4288 people also seem to forget that in 'The Crab with the Golden Claw' there is a Japanese detective who is given a more respectable depiction.
the conservative pressure you reference was his mentor and the publication he worked for. he was practically forced to illustrate the racist depictions in his earliest professional works, and later changed the writing when he left said publication. this is even more reflected in his open defiance against facism leading up to and throughout WW2, which lead to several threats on his life by the Nazis and his participation in the resistance.
I still love Tintin to this very day.
Of all the things I expected in my life....this was not it.
You weren't expected either
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@@erikkr.r.m7380 that's because he's from the Spanish Inquisition
@@Harshhaze exactly 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂true
I grew up in a rural Canadian town and loved Tintin . As a child , I read every edition excessivly ( only available at our public library ) . I eventualy bought and still own a few copies. The stories and excellent artistry and storylines made this iconic and a thrill for an imaginative adolecent , forevor loved .
oof tintin was my childhood tho
@Soeryo Pramuditho omg wait same but the indo version
Soeryo Pramuditho yea then I started collecting the huge english version ones 😹
Soeryo Pramuditho AHAHAHAHAH keren
@Soeryo Pramuditho bokap2 indo doyannya tintin HAHHAHA
I mean you can still like tintin you just have to acknowledge the creator was racist af
Out of curiosity, I'd like to see Weird History do a video on Johnny Appleseed. Just sitting here watching and eating an apple.
We like to give Nazi “cooperators” shit but the reality is this: You’re under strict orders from your superiors to execute civilians and should you refuse you’ll join them. It was life and death, many chose life only to be executed or imprisoned for being forced to follow orders.
The reason Herge isn’t guilty is the same reason many of those soldiers who literally pulled the trigger on Holocaust victims weren’t guilty. He was forced and despite being forced managed to keep things rather tame, he was lucky.
There's always something dark behind some of the most successful shows, books etc
Felicia Heartfilia disney:cough cough
@Joe Al
lol
💯 facts
And if we keep being tolerant to a fault it will keep happening
@@mariamatedei ok so what would you like to do about the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, '10s (and everything before all that)....do u have a time machine or are you just going to complain, trust me i think its all shitty/horrible/terrible and ignorant too but what exactly can you do about the past, maybe focus on what we can do about it NOW in the 2020s and less focus on trying to punish the past (i know, it doesnt make it right, but im a realist)
I didn't find anything about the nazi influence when I did my 10 year old Tintin presentation.
You should have done better research
@@harrydavis6117 you're just forcing nazi influence in Tintin
Harry Davis
Tintin is no nazi. He’s a compassionate, empathetic, just and pretty righteous-seeking person.... always defending those who can’t defend the,selves and standing up against evil. That’s not how Nazis are.
@@harrydavis6117 everyone was racist back then dufus.
@@FormByFirelight racism was bad then too dork lol
so TinTin isn’t really racist it’s just a character and a comic that has captured many historical norms and thoughts through its life.
Exactely, its just what most people thought of africa back then.
Josef Anon that doesn’t mean it ok. What are you talking about
@@theguyspodcast5782
It means that people 100 years ago had a very different idea of what was acceptable.
Duh!
Was that a hard one to understand?
🙄
J B no it’s wasnt hard to understand. I understood you the first time. But like I said is still doesn’t make it ok
Michael Matthews of course the views are wrong but labeling a character and a comic as racist because of the common views that people had 100 years ago is also not okay in my opinion, especially when you can see the character and comic evolving and acting almost like a history book. But that’s just my opinion.
He did what he had to do to survive and didn´t hurt anyone
@施亮 What part of spreading an anti-imperialist, anti-racist and anti-big business message is to be described as "furthering Nazi ideology"? I'm certain more people have been positively affected by his work than negatively.
It’s easy to be critical of the choices he made in order to survive when YOU don’t have the threat of someone’s boot on your neck
I wouldn’t say that was a dark secret, tintin still rocks
Franklin Johnson "he still rocks" I just know you're white
Lord Farquaad the character was used as nazi propaganda 😂😂 it has everything to do with it.
Visionary You’ve never read the comics
@@visionary6498 I just know you're a Jew
Tomorrow We Live 😵
So sounds to me that he was more of a captive than a nazi sympathizer. So why bash him?
Views. It's not hard to research his case and see he was found not guilty. He was absolutely not a Nazi sympathizer however he did, like most Europeans at the time, have a warped world view hence the semi-racist caricatures. To him, it most likely wasn't a racist depiction, it was simply how everyone depicted X or Y. Messed up? Sure. But it's important to note he learned from those mistakes.
I'm very disheartened by this video. I love Tintin and Herge and have all the books. This isn't long lost information it's very widely known and it's like he's being bashed for no reason other than the writers ran out of ideas and decided to destroy historic legends. It's not an opinion. The man was found not guilty. The only thing up for debate is his caricatures however most of the text in Tintin is pro-equality.
Reid Hanson so next time he should do a video about looney toons/ Tom and jerry and how racist they were too and how your a nazi if you enjoy it.
Clicks and likes?
He was not a black & white character, his personality showed shades of grey. Like every human being he had his flaws. But imperfection and contradiction often make a great artist. We should acknowledge that.
If you go on to hergés Wikipedia you see a quote from him in which he basically says “I drew those racist caricatures bc it was the only exposure I had to those minorities, and now I know that they’re not like that I regret it” I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist of it
I grew up with Tintin. It was one of the only comics that fuelled my desire for adventure but also gave me a good perspective in the general sense of good and bad. This seems to be another click bate "Cancel Culture" attempt to garner all previously historic works with a 21st century zeal. Look back at most major characters from Winston Churchill to Woodrow Willson and you will find skeletons in their closet. I look forward to the day that I can introduce my children to Herge's work.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
This video is about getting the FACTS right and the TRUTH out there. You’re not making ANY SENSE here in your comment at all.
It doesn’t matter what your experience on tintin was, what matters is the facts the story has there presented. This is NOT a “aNotHeR cLicK bATe (*it’s bait, btw) cAncEl CuLtUrE” video AT ALL, it’s about presenting the facts about the situation and seeing history for what it is. Something you apparently don’t and can’t understand at all here with your embarrassing narrow minded smug comment.
Also “Churchill” and “Woodrow Wilson” have MORE than proven to be bad people in a lot of aspects in their lives, which is MUCH MORE than “a few skeletons in their closets” entirely. You’re not making any sense here as you need to look at the good and the bad to judge someone’s persons! Which you clearly don’t like to do.
this generation is ruining everything and i hate being part of it.
@@Lou-yf1jo maybe cry harder lol
Hey folks- I'm a life long Tintin fan. My mum brought me up on them when I was a newborn and I couldn't speak until I was 4 as I was (and still am) a speech dsypraxic. I have always read Tintin and even now as a university fresher I read it. Every time I read those books there's always something new. Back in 2016 as a college student I did an EPQ (an Extended Project Qualification)- it's an extra A-level. I did what I always wanted to do which was the political and social aspects and development in Herge's Tintin. It was 5000 words long a had to skip some books but I mainly did 14-16 out of the 24 comic books/novels and it took hours to find the resources I needed. I read books from tintinologist like Micheal Farr to Harry Thompson and even authors like Benoît Peeters. Even Herge's biographer Pierre Assouline. The dissertation was sent to the Herge Museum and is saved in the private archives till this day - so I know my Tintin. It took me along time and a lot of effort but I did it and it's the First EPQ based on Tintin. I also had to contact Moulinart and the Herge Museum in Belgium which were really kind and offered me access to any material I needed and gave more suggestions on authors too. At the end of my writing, I sent a copy to Belgium and the Herge Museum kept the final edition of my EPQ in their private archives- which is a childhood dream for me! So I would kinda like to think I am a tintinlogist too now. I think this documentary has got it perfectly right unlike other modern documentaries at the moment- you need to know Herge's personal life before you claim that Herge was a fascist, sexist and racist.
Overall, Herge did have ups and downs. His career is one that is still unknown by a lot of people and Tintin is seen as a comic that a lot of the 'Modern Generations' regard as a racist and pro-Nazi. In my opinion, I agree with Micheal Farr, despite Herge's controversies Tintin has become a national and cultural icon which is used in multiple West End shows, cartoon references like The Simpsons and Family Guy to being part of the Silver Screen of Hollywood. However, despite all of this Herge was always limited to show off the power of Tintin as a cartoon due to the circumstances he lived in from a post-WW1 Belgium to Nazi occupied Europe. He was always a victim of the power of propaganda and politics and he was never truly able to shape Tintin into what he wanted him to be a narrative construct to comment on current social and political affairs rather than being the cult symbol of a certain politics and someone else's design whether that's Norbert Walletz's fascist catholic boy scout or the other artist's unique twicks on Herge's Ligne Claire style. He wanted Tintin to be his- like it was in his school boy sketches in the back of his math book. We can see that like Herge, Tintin matures and realises what is fake and what is reality. Was Herge a racist? The answer is I think he wasn’t- (well not intentionally) he was a victim of political manipulation like Tintin and he realises the way of the world and we have to keep the past pieces of his early work not for them being 'masterpieces' but as a historical evidence to remind how arts can be exploited by the political world and the influential power that has. Tintin goes from a symbol of fascism and right wing Catholicism to a symbol of post-war hope for a democratic, free and peaceful Europe which you could argue was always part of Tintin's identity as he was a child of the The Great War. Tintin became the son Herge never had, the son no Belgium family could have, a son that was lost on the fields of Flanders during the Great War, a son that fully symbolises the personal history Herge went through- when Herge's artistic talent was exploited so was Tintin, when Herge found life long friends so did Tintin, when Herge died - Tintin became a legacy. Tintin will always be a part of me, he's my childhood hero, and I'll always learn something about him everyday from the biographies to the comics- but one thing I know for sure is that Herge made Tintin as a character, a character that every boy wanted to be. The adventurer. The justice-seeker... the ordinary hero. But at the same time, Herge also enabled that character, a character that comments of the social and political climate that becomes accessible to all audiences (even if they are quite a bit stock characters like Captain Haddock)- yet just like this documentary has said the Tibetans are not racial stereotyped in latter Tintin comics unlike the Congolese and the Japanese in the early 1930 graphic novels. It enables Tintin to be a symbol of a post-war world, a post-war Europe of hope, love, equality and peace- which we can see today by the creation of the UN and the EU (formerly known as the EEC). So folks Herge and Tintin are not some neo-nazi scumbags, he like many artists (never mind young artists), of his time are brainwashed, exploited by superiors, and threatened by higherups; before realising the truth and realities of the world as Tintin becomes a character about good over evil rather than evil over good and what is morally right. So was Herge- he learnt and matured as that WW1 backdrop always became an educational scar on his childhood. I think if Herge was still alive today - he would be reminding a new generation (my generation) about the wrongs and horrors that this current world could become. Obviously his earlier comics are more explicitly clear as nationalist, Rexist and fascist ideological propaganda (especially the pre-edited ones from the 1930s and not the edited ones of the 1960s/70s) and the debate at the moment is whether we should ban those books- I would rather see them as comics/graphic novels that we give to more mature and older children as there is no point hiding his dark past. You have to read both the loving adventures and the racist propaganda to really understand and respect Herge's life from naivety and being a child in a propaganda media global war (the likes we will never see in our lifetime), to a mature and more educated adult that wanted to acknowledge and correct his wrongs of his younger years. Maybe you could argue that he is still waiting for us to 'forgive' him from his younger and exploited past. So yes- Herge deserves the credit of being a great (and in my opinion incredibly underrated) comic/graphic novel as he is an European and Belgian icon but also the fact that he matured with social changes showed that he was no extreme racist but a victim of circumstance. A victim of the post-Great War era where Europe was vulnerable to the communist and fascist nationalism ideology which eventually become the populist authoritarian dictatorships we all historical know today as Nazi Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and the authoritarian regimes in the USSR, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Vichy France, Franco's Spain and German Occupied Belgium- and remember there were fascism in both the UK with Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists and in the USA with figures like Father Charles Coughlin, Virgil Effinger's paramilitary Black Legion, and William Dudley Pelley and his German American Bund. So yes- Personally he is up there as one of the best artists to ever exist not only because of how his art connected with me as a kid (like it did with many others)- but how Tintin has become an educational tool to led us all on a moral compass of trying to encourage the good in the world and learn from our past- and just like Tintin became a compass for kids it also became a compass for Herge too as he was truly a man who never had the opportunity to grow up when his childhood was restricted and destroyed by WW1 and the proto-fascist/Rexist world of Norbert Walletz's catholic nationalism. Tintin became a figure that eventually granted Herge to escape from that world rather than conform and become brainwashed too it. Tintin- like Herge, despite their early mistakes and errors, symbolise modern values. Tintin became our imaginary self, my personal gateway away from the daily disablist bullying I faced at school throughout my life. Tintin became the son of a plucky little Belgium, a son of a new Post War (WW1 and WW2) Europe. But most importantly, the child Herge always wanted in his life. Those stories will always be a part of me- my childhood and if I ever have kids I hope they will find solace, joy and love in Tintin like I did. Those captivating stories will always inspire the joys and childhood dreams of my imagination forever.
I suggest reading these books for more information:
- Tintin: Herge and His Creation (by Harry Thompson)
- Tintin And The Secret Of Literature (by Tom McCartney)
- Hergé, Son of Tintin (by Benoit Peeters and Tina A. Kover)
- Herge: The Man Who Created Tintin (by Pierre Assouline and Charles Ruas)
- Tintin: The Complete Companion: The Complete Guide to Tintin's World (The Adventures of Tintin)
(by Michael Farr)
I also suggest watching Herge's documentry of 'Tintin et moi' by Numa Sadoul.
So I want to say thank you for reading this long comment and more detailed historical analysis on Herge's life. I know it was a long one! I’m not normally like this- it’s just something I wanted to correct as I’ve been reading and studying Tintin all my life.
I'll leave you with one of Herge's last quotes and was the quote I used to end the EPQ essay and which the director of the Herge museum wrote in his letter saying 'Eh bien, c'est la citation qui résume Herge' (Well that sums up Herge).
“Tintin brought me happiness. I did my best at what I was doing and it wasn’t always easy. But I had a lot of fun. Moreover, as Sacha Guitry said, I got paid for doing it. Doesn’t that take the biscuit?”
Herge interviewed by ‘La Libre Belgique’ (1975). One of Herge's last interviews before he died less than a decade later.
Thanks again folks for reading.
And here I am... waiting for Mirio Togata to finally be reunited with his pet dog.
So he was human and lived through a Nazi occupation.
I think what I can take from this is that the creator needed to survive, if anything what he did is simply drawing (and running away if anything). He never fired a gun, never assisted a Nazi soldier, and has his own house occupied by the Nazi. All he did was draw, and he made friends along the way......
I loved "the adventures of TinTin" cartoon when I was a kid
It's so strange that Tin Tin had absolutely no recognition in my country, not even remotely popular. Donald Duck on the other hand...
Where is your country if you dont mind me asking?
@@ahsokatano6361 Lithuania
Donald not as subversive as Tintin
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4.
@@eedragonr6293 I'm sorry but maybe you need to read my comment from 9 months back
Wow, he really looked like John DeLorean in his older days
Since the Belgian court couldn't find him guilty of treachery and fascism, there is no reason for us to do that as well. All of the press was under the party's control since it was a dictatorship and that's how dictatorships works. He was just an ordinary comic book author hired on the newspaper.
It is clear that Herge travelled to many parts of the world and study cultures on the spot itself rather than relying on stereotypical representations of certain tribes and nations. Many of the cultures depicted in his comic books are very very accurate such as the Indians in Tintin in Tibet, even them speaking Hindi all have meaning.
Christ it's always something with this channel 😂
And the creator of Sea-Monkeys you know those aquatic creatures that advertise in the back of comic books. Their creator was also sympathetic to Nazism.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
@@reverendroar why are you leaving that under my comment...
@@emem7242 Because he's partly wrong on his facts
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Yes like Scientology and the church of Mormon. (Latter day saints)
Some inconsistencies like "Tintin in Extreme Orient" that was separated in two volumes and later named "Cigars of the Pharaoh" and "The Blue Lotus". It is Georges Rémi and not "Geroges Remi".
There is a point where accusing somebody of the Nuremberg Defense falls kind of short... and accusing Herge of doing it... is uh... well beyond that line.
You also fail to acknoledge that herges most beloved creation always stood up for everyone no matter the skin color or origin. He protected the mexicans, freed the slaves etc. His own past doesn't really matter, because his work, his art, his creation shows where his heart was. He also wasn't racist for drawing tribal africans the way they were portrayed back then.
What? No bro, just no. That's still MASSIVELY racist entirely and do you not realize the utter nonsense you just said at all here? "He also wasn't racist for drawing tribal africans the way they were portrayed back then." LOL Like really? Do you not realize what you just said? No it's STILL racist incredibly so, that's why herge had to change and apologize for the drawings of back then. It might have been drawn like that out of ignorance instead of racial malice but it's STILL racist imagery that looks REALLY bad and the fact that you defended it that way is beyond insane.
@@Gadget-Walkmen I'm sorry, but you are wrong. It's plain and simple, even his main character has always taught everyone how people aren't less smart just because they don't know your language. And how slavery is a bad thing and he even helped people out of it. I just don't see why a 'racist' would make a character like that into their main character, it doesn't make sense. Calling Herge racist is simply disrespectful.
@@HardModeBBQ WOW, are you being serious right now? There is no “I’m sorry” NOR am I “wrong” at all here, you just don’t know how to listen to me at all.
It’s not “plain and simple”, it’s way more complex than that as you don’t understand what I’m saying at all here as your just want to hear yourself talk.
I didn’t say Herge is a “racist” I’m saying the depiction of tribal Africans WAS racist, but it was done out of ignorance than sheer hate and malice towards another hate.
That’s what I’m saying, obviously his work has taught positive anti-racist stuff but some of his earlier other work were CLEARLY racially insensitive and had racist imagery of depiction even if he didn’t mean any Ill-will against anyone by default. That’s why he changed his earlier work down the line and apologized for his earlier work of Africans and other racial people.
I’m not saying that herge is a racist AT ALL, I’m saying some his earlier work depictions of people WERE unintentionally, that’s a fact. That’s why they don’t sell tintin in the Congo anymore, because of how bad everything looks.
And it doesn’t matter if it’s “disrespectful” or not, what matters I the truth and that’s all that matters if he is or isn’t a racist, but it’s VERY clear that Herge isn’t a racist as he learned from his mistakes and grew as a person AND from his work has shown this as he has taught positive values and good morals in his tintin books.
Pay attention to what people are saying.
So the great crime is, that he was a catholic conservative from his time, who when confronted with the choice to feed or to die, choosed to feed?
I got all the tintin comics. They were a huge part of my adolescence and inspired me to draw comics too. Herge may have done some bad things and made some poor choices but it was war, you do what you do to survive and im so glad that the tintin comics survived. Made in the 40's and enjoyed by many generations afterwards.
I grew up watching and reading TINTIN as a kid. I cut Sunday schools to watch the show in the morning.TINTIN is my inspiration for getting into comic art business today.❤
Jfc. I grew up with these books. Comics like these taught me how to read and, eventually speak, English. Smfh...
And they were originally in French!
@@Blaqjaqshellaq *they are
you shall read them in V.O.
Pretty cool that a Chinese man turned him into a better person, and in turn, enabled him to make so many high quality fantastic adventures with Tintin. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Chongren
In THE BLUE LOTUS Tintin makes friends with a Chinese boy called Chang.
Zheng had a major part on his life yes- but also Germaine and Fanny had huge impacts on his life and his career. Fanny even has shaped Herge’s legacy by making Studio Herge into Herge Foundation linked with Moulinart.
But most of all Tintin had the biggest impact on Herge- Tintin shaped what Herge wanted out of his career and Herge shaped what Tintin became. So although Zheng is one of the few influencers on Herge’s life- he isn’t the main one...
@@Blaqjaqshellaq I do believe you see him in Tintin in Tibet, as well!
If only he had some black friends because that “Tintin in the Congo” book is .... yikes. Just yikes.🤦🏾♀️They would’ve told him “Errr Stop. 🛑 Nah Uh.✖️No go.” lol
@@linann96 Hergé expressed regrets later in his life for Tintin in Congo. As stated in the video, he really started making more research after he befriended a Chinese man and in his last few books, you could almost argue he was left-leaning. Tintin in Congo and Tintin in America were pretty bad in general. Not just for the common racism of the day (in his case, anchored in ignorance, not hatred or true contempt), but also because the stories were half-assed, especially compared to his later work.
I still have that infamous racist book. "Tintin au Congo" its pretty bad. Lol
At least the main villains are white men!
I have a version from the 70s with the infamous blowing up a rhino with dynamite scene, still there
Fun Fact: It's also the bestselling comic of all time in the DRC, taking no offense of the book and rather making fun of the vision Europeans had of them at the time.
I wanted to provide some context Because the whole story is actually quite interesting,
During the Nazi occupation of Belgium A lot of journalists and writers decided To "put down their pens" And refuse to write for any news publications controlled by nazis. The Belgian king opposed this, Though he was no longer in power at the time, saying that he believed it was important for writers to keep working and trying to encourage Belgiun identity in any way they can. Herge Held a great amount of respect for the king and didn't hesitate to fallow this idea.
Wanting to do something as Even though he had volunteered to join The Belgian army he had been declared unfit for duty.
Herge at first made a lot of blatant Passes at The nazis, But after his life was threatened by the Gustapo, Decided to take it in a more escapest fantasy direction,
In the time line of the comic World War II never happened allowing a place Free of war that the people of Belgium could escape to. And was greatly appreciated especially by Belgian troops on the front lines who said that They eagerly awaited every paper Specifically to read the comic as it offered them a breath of fresh air from the war.
He spent his royalties on keeping his out of work family and friends a float, And to send food throughvthe red cross to his brother who was being held in a nazi prison camp this entire time.
He was not a perfect man he died with a lot of regrets. But as an artist, hes someone I really respect.
The Soviet and Congo albums are not globally forbidden and censored. Tintin in Africa is part of the main collection and the Soviet album is not because Hergé didn't like it finding it outdated and just plain bad. For instance, it's the only album he didn't remaster. The Congo album has to be put in his specific period of time where Belgian people in general had this kind of vision of the colony, so was Hergé.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
@@reverendroar I don't read Tintin in Wikipedia neither. Hergé said in an interview with Benoit Peeters that the Congo album had to be put in context. I think it's also in this interview that he talked about the Soviet album. I follow a few Tintin pages in French and I'm not the noob that you seem to project I am. Open the discussion instaid of treating me like an uneducated fellow.
@@drumboy940 I am not claiming you are a noob. I just want to tell others that Herge was a man of circumstances.
He had to survive and since I’ve never been in that position I can’t judge him. I know I’ve put up with shit to keep a job that’s helped me feed my child. Doesn’t change anything for me . If anything this knowledge humanized him in my eyes.
He was friends with Leon Degrelle?? What a small historical world we live in.
I’m also curious as to how his friend survived living in China in the second half of the 20th century.
He fled to Taiwan.
Game Hero Thank you!
Wrong he lived in Mao’s China and Hergé was unable to see or talk to him until the late 70’s
@@fredericlouis2948 Oh, you're right. I've confused the time he went seeing Chang Kai Chek in Taiwan in the 70s (he was the official head of China since the 30s when Herge made "A Blue Lotus" sympathizing with the Chinese, he officialy invited him to come in China but the war prevented that) with the time he went seeing Chang. My mistake.
He was never friends with Leon! He was friends with Walletz. I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4- so maybe read my comment for a better explaination.
There may have been moral issues in his youth. But the man was one of the World's greatest comic book artists ever.
With all due respect, Zhang is pronounced as “Jaang/ Jahng” in Chinese, not “Zayng”😅
Great content though:)
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 11 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Next do dr.seuss and his dark secrets
Yes! I'd love to see that!
He made lots of racist war propaganda.
@@MassachusettsMapping but some of them are kind of funny.
I can't say I'm overly surprised. In the end, you have to do what you can to survive.
The best books / (episodes from the animated series) are, in my opinion, "TINTIN, the moon round trip" (I dont know the English tittle) i only know it as ”TINTIN: Månen, tur och retur”
”RIV MINA RÅSEGEL!”
Btw, the scariest episode as a kid was "The Seven Crystal Balls" and the scariest moment was when Tintin got trapped and drugg’d in "Pharaoh's cigars"
Hey, it's on the internet so it MUST be true.
My favorite childhood comics and characters, still have all the collection and from time to time i go read it
I love Tintin, regardless of how the creator survived for life
This isn't a dark secret, Herge was clearly trying to support himself and his family. He didn't intended to hurt anyone. He did it for his own survival.......that doesn't mean that he is a Nazi collaborator. He is a Belgian hero...and if we see closely, the Tintin comics contains a mixture of different culture of different countries...
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." His actions are from heroic. Let's be honest. Nazi collaborator or coward...in the end, they served the exact same function. Intentional or not, MUCH hurt was caused by ordinary folks who were "just doing their job". Talented artist and storyteller, though. No argument there.
It doesn't change how he view African! I was an adult drawing racist image.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 11 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
@@locgama3630 tell the africans themselves, the people of Congo still love it to this day
@@VomitPinata do you think you would have stood up to the Nazis if they had taken over your country? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't, as I wouldn't want to die, nor to endanger the lives of my family members. So, I don't think we can actually judge these people too harshly. He didn't kill anyone. It's like saying a grocer or chef would be evil for not refusing to cater a Nazi dinner. In the end, it wouldn't make any difference to the war, but the refusal would have major ramifications for that person and their family.
knowing the whole comic series, he really did great with his second chance and would often speak on behalf of minorities and try to depict them in a more positive light. His WWII output was pretty apolitical, but some stuff inside shows descrete criticism. After all, L'étoile Mystérieuse starts with doom and the fear that a meteorite will destroy earth- very real feelings of impending destruction...
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 11 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Oh yes- that was a metaphor for Nazi Germany at the time who had intentions of colonising the moon in pro-Nazi kid comics. He really summed up the mood of Europe during both the inter-war and WW2 period!
I'm just gonna post this.
It's on his Wikipedia.
Unhappy with life in Belgium, Hergé made plans to emigrate to Argentina, a nation that was welcoming many Europeans who had supported the defeated Axis powers and which had a thriving comic book scene. Ultimately, he changed his mind, for reasons that have remained unknown; it is possible that he was unable to secure any promise of work in the South American country.[153]
Well this is certainly a strange crossover I didn’t expect, episodes of tin tin on RUclips and my love for Weird History videos lol
It's clear that Herge never had any ill intent, but just made some unfortunate mistakes. The 20th century was a rocky road to modernity.
Hello from Rastapopoulos' home(Greece), where we gave Norbet's idol Mussolini a good lesson in humiliation.
It is just fascinating learning about someone who grew up over a hundred years ago. I grew up reading his comics so it’s just odd seeing how removed he was from me in culture and time period.
00:35 Tintin doesn't look like the nazi guy, he looks like young Hergé himself 🤔
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4.
@@reverendroar you studied Tintin all your life? lol that's nuts
@@IRosamelia yes it is but it’s the comic that makes me feel alive. It’s called childhood destiny haha. Read my comment from 11 months back to know more and I suggest some critics aka tintinologists to read too if you want more
Exactly
I don't blame the guy, he was just trying to survive the best he could
Le Soir that is showed at 10:05 is "Le Faux Soir" a spoof issue of the newspaper Le Soir published on November 9, 1943. It was produced by the Front de l'Indépendance, a faction in the Belgian Resistance, in a satirical style that ridiculed German propaganda.
The inquiry was charged to the Gestapo and ultimately identified the press machinery from which the Faux Soir had originated. Four operators were arrested.Two of them never returned from the concentration camp where they were taken. Somewhat later on, a fifth one was arrested; he was given a death sentence which was commuted to 15 years in prison. In all about 15 people were arrested and sentenced to penalties ranging from four months (for distribution) to five years.
After l arrived in Canada, Tintin was the first French comic book l read. l learned French by reading this comic.
I think if the comics had featured Tintin hurting innocent people to the benefit of dictators and fascists that would be one thing. But his comics were pretty much consistently about the innocent little guy overcoming greedy corrupt bad guys. So he may have been a product of his (racist dangerous) times but his comics showed the true nature of his boy scout heart.
Hergé fue racista en sus inicios y lo reconoció. Prueba de ello es Tintin en el País de los Soviets y Tintin en el Congo y todos los estereotipos que representa. Ahora bien, quien no creía en esos estereotipos en aquella época. No podemos juzgar a la gente del pasado con la perspectiva del presente: Aristóteles era machista, todos los conquistadores unos racistas pero para su época era gente normal. Hoy en día hay quien no recicla y lo vemos relativamente normal. Dentro de 200 años tal vez esto sea considerado una barbaridad.
Este vídeo dice que Hergé se documentó antes de escribir sus cómics desde Los Cigarros del Faraón, en cambio el autor del vídeo se ha documentado poco y mal. Hergé sólo estuvo unido al nazismo por el periódico donde encontró trabajo. Él no era seguidor de los ideales nazis. Esta afirmación puede ser comprobada por cualquiera. Sólo hay que leer Tintin y el Cetro de Ottokar. En este cómic Tintin ayuda al rey de Syldavia( un país imaginario) y descubre un complot del jefe de estado del país vecino Müstler( mezcla entre MUSsolini y HiTLER) para anexionar Syldavia a su territorio( una operación muy similar al Anschluss austriaco por el cual Hitler anexionó Austria a Alemania). Este cómic es una clara crítica al pensamiento nazi y si el autor del vídeo no de ha dado cuenta es que ni siquiera se ha documentado de los argumentos de los álbumes antes de criticar y acusar a su creador.
Invito a todo aquel que quiera saber la verdad y no quiera depender de la información proporcionada por medios sin base alguna como es este a leer los álbumes lo primero, luego investigar bien: hay muchos libros sobre Hergé y Tintin. También hay artículos realmente buenos en Internet.
Siento escribir en español pero mi nivel de inglés no es tan alto como para decir todo esto.
Había mucha gente que no creía en esos estereotipos en la época y mucha gente que condenaba concienzudamente el fascismo y no hubiera colaborado en un periódico así. Por mucho que en ese tiempo estuviese normalizado, los calificativos son objetivos. El juicio de valor que detentan el racismo y el fascismo según los tiempos no quita su significación.
I’m having a strange desire to watch tintin now...
Read every single Tin Tin has a kid. The quote “ignorance is bliss” surely applied to me then cause I just appreciated the work for what it was and not even a hint of political leanings. To be young again. 👀
A good bit of men from his time were racist, it was the status quo.
I rember going to the library at my school with my friend and finding a couple of tin tin books behind some other books those tin tin books were awesome
Tintin has a Chinese friend, an Indian friend, an Arabian Sheik friend, an American Indian friend (Mayan), a Japanese enemy (which was allies of the Nazis) and an Italian enemy (Rastapopulous) (also ally of the Nazis).
Rastapopoulos was Greek. That is in no way an Italian name or even Italian sounding.
My favorite childhood character 😍
I’m smile again 😃
I don’t know the real story but I enjoyed the adventure
I believe he deserve second chance because he make us happy and enjoy the story
For kids for everyone
It’s doesn’t matter the creator past
People in bad time enjoy his story
That’s important
Thank you for this video 👍🏻🌹😁
So he rested on his laurels and then created more masterpiece's? Better read some of these comics!
I wish Jim Broadbent would play Herge in the Film
I'm not sure I would regard drawing cartoons for a Nazi-controlled newspaper as such a big crime. The guy had to eat, and it's not as if he was killing anyone or helping the Nazis militarily.
I grew up in France and found it very odd when English people pronounce it "TinTin". In French it's like an English person would say "TanTan" but without the "n" sounds... TaTa. - but not "TarTar" 🤓 - confusing!
And in Germany they just chaned his name to "Tim".
@@allium2718 "There are some who call me...Tim?."
When you literally pronounce the letter I as the letter A.
In Quebec we pronounce TinTin "TainTain"
in Greece we pronounced him ''Ten Ten''
Tintin is one of my favorite foreign comics besides Japanese Manga. I even had a Tintin phase as a kid back around 2011/2012 after I saw the movie but later got over Tintin but he and his friends are still some of my favorite characters such as his dog Snowy and Captain Haddock. I had another similar comic phase in 2019 after seeing the Alita Battle Angel movie and started reading Alita Manga which I got over but it led to my current Anime/psudo-weeb phase which was also influenced by my sister introducing me to anime starting with Attack on Titan and other anime. Crazy woke people also say that AOT is Fascist just because the characters wear military uniforms and are in the military. Which is utter bullshit in my opinion and I am not sure that Tintin is Nazi neither as this video claims but I will take your word with a grain of salt since you claim to have historical proof that Tintin's author was a Nazi collaborator. I was wondering why the Tintin comics had no Nazis in them even though I thought it was out of fear because Belgium was occupied by the Germans at the time.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4
I loved watching this when I was a kid😄great stuff Weird History♡
Tintin in the Congo may be seen as racist today but you need to see the context here. It was published in 1930 when such caricatures were seen as common. Notable connaisseurs of Hergé and the Ligne Claire art movement - in which he draws - conclude he was not more racist than any person of Belgium in that era. Also in The Blue Lotus comic strip, Tintin explains to Chang Chong-Chen - a Chinese orphan that Tintin saves - how stereotypes in general are wrong making thus a statement against racism.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 9 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Teddy Roosevelt next ?
Cannabis ?
I feel like the world was quite a bit more intolerant of "otherness" back when Tintin was being written and published, and we should expect to see some ugliness. Lovecraft has a lot of the same issues. It's important to acknowledge the influence of these works as it is to use their shortcomings to learn to be better.
I'm sorry Weird History but you got quite a bit wrong. I suggest reading my comment from 11 months ago to really get the full picture. I studied Tintin all my life and read the books since I was 4 so please I suggest maybe getting your research from the Herge Museum, Moulinart and Tintinologists like Michael Farr and not somewhere like Wikipedia. Us true Tintin lover would appreciate it.
Raymond LaBlanc has that Anthony Hopkins villain vibe going on.
**COUGH** Battle of Vienna (1683) **COUGH**
Can You please make a weird history video about William Randolph Hearst