The Horrible Economics of 80s Horror

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  • Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2024

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  • @The_Greipist
    @The_Greipist 4 года назад +892

    Nothing like rich people telling us that being rich is bad, lol

    • @Escorducarla
      @Escorducarla 4 года назад +52

      They're the aliens they rail against all along. Surprise!

    • @rockysehf5718
      @rockysehf5718 4 года назад +1

      Did you get to grape the family?

    • @tenhirankei
      @tenhirankei 4 года назад +16

      @/X/EN Like the ancient seafarers had maps that warned "here be dragons"!

    • @oregondude9411
      @oregondude9411 4 года назад +2

      @@tenhirankei that's really interesting! Never thought of it like that.

    • @barbarabaker1457
      @barbarabaker1457 4 года назад +1

      @@tenhirankei For some reason I instantly thought Iceland. Although they weren't always wrong, Australia used to be known on maps as "land of monsters" before being made a prison by England. Every top 10 deadly animal list has several Australian creatures, and it does have the Komodo dragon, just saying.

  • @rikiishitoru8885
    @rikiishitoru8885 4 года назад +538

    Economics irl: Incredibly complicated with many working parts, best to not control it through the government
    Economics in movies: Business bad

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +9

      Economics in this video: think about the poor politicians and bussinessmen, you will hurt their feelings!!

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking 4 года назад +104

      @@marekvincibr5884 Economics in your comment: Who knows, you didn't even watch the video.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 4 года назад +7

      Economics under AI will be a totally reliable system with high certainty in it's predictions. Thus it will also be possible to manipulate any part of it through already established control mechanisms like legislation, price fixing, shortages, fake crisis, interest rates ect. This is because Social media, 5G, smart phones and digital currency will allow total control and real time feedback from every consumer. You can model economics like any other physical system if you just have enough data in, and it can be made self balancing. It is exactly like analyzing an electrical circuit mathematically. They will be able to know your thoughts and emotions with a high degree of probability even before you have them. That is what all this talk about machine learning and the data economy is about. Your data is more valuable than you think.
      That is the power AI gives! The fairy tale that AI can become self aware is only a distraction and possibly a alibi for what it might suggest regarding balancing the economy. Maybe the population is too big and the machine thinks we need some reduction, what better to blame than a "impartial and objective" system?

    • @georgepearson4332
      @georgepearson4332 4 года назад +5

      I think the issue is that while 'the economy' is a nuanced and incredibly complex issue, what isn't complex is that a lot of people are actually hurting

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      @@SymmetricalDocking Oh he talks about personal resposibility just fails to mention those bankers and politicians very rarely even think about responsibility.

  • @chaosgyro
    @chaosgyro 4 года назад +430

    "The aliens tell me to do horrible things!"
    "Like what sir?"
    "Get married, have kids, and get plenty of sleep!"
    "God, that must be horrible..."

    • @warweasel2832
      @warweasel2832 3 года назад +4

      If that's what you got out of the billboard programming, you're just as blind as the people in the movie.

    • @Economically_Speaking
      @Economically_Speaking 3 года назад +11

      @@dragtheserg
      Uber driver: What direction
      Passenger:Hard Left

    • @JEazy-jh1qp
      @JEazy-jh1qp 3 года назад +5

      I mean, if you don't wanna have kids or get married that's fine. You not a bad person for that.

    • @HinDoongEe
      @HinDoongEe 3 года назад +6

      That’s what I never understood about “They Live”. Like that’s not anything bad at all. Don’t get why it’s presented as bad

    • @deathsquadron3311
      @deathsquadron3311 2 года назад +2

      Woke america

  • @justinhart2831
    @justinhart2831 4 года назад +283

    I can imagine a bystander in They Live:
    "So this lunatic bursts into the bank with a shotgun, yells something about bubblegum and starts blowing people away! It was horrible! And I heard that after they arrested him, he said he had a magical pair of sunglasses that let him see who was Jewish. Friggin' nutjob!"

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +13

      You know that he manges to unmask the alins at the end?

    • @TheSpencermacdougall
      @TheSpencermacdougall 4 года назад +38

      @@marekvincibr5884 this movie is actually based off of like a short story, and it was a bit more ambiguous on whether the aliens were real or not.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +3

      @@TheSpencermacdougall ok.

    • @judsongaiden9878
      @judsongaiden9878 4 года назад +1

      @@marekvincibr5884 Justin was describing a potential AU fanfic. Actually, there's a whole lot of potential for exactly that sort of thing! Imagine a They Live "expanded universe!"

    • @556deltawolf
      @556deltawolf 4 года назад +5

      @@TheSpencermacdougall Yeah I read the story. "Eight O'Clock In the Morning" and it's only six pages long and you're right. While George Nada (the focus) claims to be fighting an alien called "The Fascinator" but again it's never flat out said that it was real and it is implied that he was just a crazy man who thought aliens were secretly controlling mankind.

  • @davidnorth8367
    @davidnorth8367 4 года назад +303

    Still gave us one of the greatest one-liners of all time

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +85

      "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of gum!" XD

    • @judsongaiden9878
      @judsongaiden9878 4 года назад +17

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx Roddy Piper ad-libbed that.

    • @jabronjunklove760
      @jabronjunklove760 4 года назад +13

      I've come here to chew ass and kick bubblegum. And I'm all out of bubblegum. No, wait! Damn it! I messed that up!

    • @Burns748
      @Burns748 4 года назад

      I believe the line actually originated from a movie in the seventies it was slightly different though.

    • @MassinissaIbrahimi-qv3dv
      @MassinissaIbrahimi-qv3dv 4 года назад

      Is American Psycho anti-capitalist?

  • @jaretthacker9058
    @jaretthacker9058 4 года назад +136

    I find it kinda funny that movies like this are why I’m so against censorship, mega corporations, big government and MSM.

    • @ab5olut3zero95
      @ab5olut3zero95 4 года назад +1

      Go Tigers

    • @hrgrhrhhr
      @hrgrhrhhr 4 года назад +1

      @@ab5olut3zero95 what?

    • @gonkdroid4prez539
      @gonkdroid4prez539 3 года назад +1

      @Egg Egg egg egg Main Stream Media

    • @sikViduser
      @sikViduser 3 года назад +9

      The criticisms of this movie are valid to a point. In a very superficial way this movie acknowledges a very real problem in society, but Carpenter fails to recognize how he himself is a tool that perpetuates the very system he rails against.

    • @maxschreck4095
      @maxschreck4095 3 года назад +1

      @@sikViduser So what should he do? Stay silent??

  • @TH3F4LC0Nx
    @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +233

    Yeah, it's sad that so many movies make capitalism out to be evil. So you can imagine how blown away I was when I watched The Incredibles 2 and the suit-wearing capitalist businessman actually turned out to be a good guy. I was like, "Whaaaaa?"

    • @alexanderthunder7623
      @alexanderthunder7623 4 года назад +6

      Yhh but they made him beta

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +55

      @@alexanderthunder7623 I dunno; I thought he was a strong enough character. I was just rocked by the switcheroo they did. Like, when the movie starts they introduce you to Mr. Businessman who wants to capitalize on the superheroes, and his more "progressive" sister with more liberal sensibilities. Like, obviously modern audiences are conditioned by now to assume which of those characters were gonna fill which role, but then when they flipped it my mind was blown. I think he may have seemed like a beta because he was just kind of more principled.

    • @alexanderthunder7623
      @alexanderthunder7623 4 года назад +10

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx i agree with your assessment and it is truly shocking that they didn't really crap on the businessman but we all know that wouldn't last

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +43

      @@alexanderthunder7623 I think Brad Bird's films are just pretty balanced in general. Like, go back and watch The Iron Giant. Even though the one G-man guy wants to nuke the town, the movie never demonizes the military at large, as the other General guy is portrayed as rational and humane. I think he's a pretty nuanced director.

    • @alexanderthunder7623
      @alexanderthunder7623 4 года назад +17

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx Iron Giant is awesome. I respect when characters aren't made to be one dimensional in order to make a statement instead of creating art.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 4 года назад +197

    If only it were so easy to just blame invisible aliens for our problems...
    _It was us who did it, we did this._
    🐍
    💀 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 4 года назад +1

      Aliens are not invisible. If we chose to follow the wrong path, we prove Satan's point that we are not intelligent enough to be considered sentient beings, and thus become food. If we chose the right path we prove we can handle the responsibility of eternal life. Until that matter is settled, the aliens will remain in hiding.
      Our elites are constructing a prison planet with an AI controlled economy, a human farm where the product is meat for export. We have 10 years of war ahead of us, the matter will be resolved around 2030 when they offer us "peace and security" in exchange for all our freedoms and rights. After that, if we chose to agree, the demons of Hell will be released.
      All those Hollywood films are just a test to see how many get what's going on. The Matrix, Hunger Games,.....they are documentaries about how our future will be. Men in Black even stated it was based on a true story. Satan needs to be totally obvious in this by the terms of the agreement. We need to actively submit for him to claim victory.
      Read "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +6

      @@Willy_Tepes under every conservative economycs video you will find at least one raving madman should be a rule of an internet.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 4 года назад +1

      ​@@marekvincibr5884 So I am the madman? Did you know that the practice of requiring interest on a loan creates a economic system where unlimited growth is the goal and war/genocide is essential to keeping the system in balance? We are now in a situation where the world's combined debt is higher than it's combined resources. And I am the madman, LOL. Who do we owe all this money to? Would it not be easier to just kill them instead of paying the bill?
      This system is collapsing and they have a better system in the final stages of development. Sadly, that AI system will be even worse for the common folk, and the same people who created the previous exploitative system, will be creating a new to suit THEIR needs.
      Economics is not a black art, it is mathematics and with enough data, a computer system would have no problem running it or even predicting future events. There will still be a population problem though as the system is still designed for unlimited growth.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +6

      @@Willy_Tepes you first comic mentioned satan and aliens in multiple places for some reason. That is combo I do not see often. your second comment is much more sensible.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 4 года назад +1

      @@marekvincibr5884 The central part of this "conspiracy theory" is completely plausible and explains everything about the direction we have been taking the last 50 years. The second part about the aliens, is not improbable, and we would likely be correct in calling them "gods". You can accept the first part without the second part, but you will see that I am right.
      Here's a prediction: In 2021 there will start major conflicts all over the world, it will last for 10 years. You won't have to wait long to laugh at my doomsday predictions.
      Considering all the fake crisis in 2020, do you really think nothing is going on? Soros, Rockefeller and these other psychos does not pay billions to different actors to stir up trouble for nothing. This Covid hoax and Global Warming hoax have cost enormous sums to create and maintain.

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero 4 года назад +119

    I wonder if there's any meaning behind the fact that the protagonist's name is Spanish for "Nothing"...

    • @travissmith2848
      @travissmith2848 4 года назад +15

      My thoughts as well. And he was a drifter. Living in a homeless camp. That despite jobs being available there was nothing for _him_ .....Surprised they didn't make him black while they were at it.

    • @tenhirankei
      @tenhirankei 4 года назад +6

      Then there's a submarine captain with a name that taken from Latin means "no-one"!

    • @jotdoc
      @jotdoc 4 года назад +9

      Maybe it means, quite ironically, that nothing opposes them.

    • @josda1000
      @josda1000 4 года назад +8

      I think its a Christ metaphor... that in order to do good, one has to be able to not hold on to anything material... because if you have nothing to lose, then you are free to actually be yourself.

    • @nickvliet4614
      @nickvliet4614 4 года назад +8

      That the society in the film sees the individual as nothing. You're either part of the elite ruling class or cattle (the union)

  • @cameronscott7304
    @cameronscott7304 4 года назад +67

    Unfortunately, a lot of modern horror has the same politics but more on the nose and with less originality and style.

    • @justifiably_stupid4998
      @justifiably_stupid4998 4 года назад +7

      I like the role reversal where the monsters were the intelligent elite while the humans were the mindless zombies. 10/10 originality for They Live.

    • @JohnDoe-sw1sm
      @JohnDoe-sw1sm 4 года назад +3

      no horror since like the begging has always had the same sort of politics and usually a critic of the wealth and powerful of society. Like Vampires were written to basically be like what aristocracy was.

    • @Hates-handle
      @Hates-handle 3 года назад

      Yep

  • @bryanc2262
    @bryanc2262 4 года назад +45

    Ephesians 6:12
    We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against the rulers, the powers, and the worldly force in dark places, and against wicked spiritual forces in heavenly places.

    • @moscowvicent831
      @moscowvicent831 4 года назад +1

      That's what I got it was a movie against the New world order!

  • @michaelvandeginste3497
    @michaelvandeginste3497 4 года назад +37

    They Live is one of my favorite films. I ignored the anti-capitalist message and just enjoyed the sci-fi action premise of the downtrodden fighting back against a clandestine, top-down alien takeover. Also, that "chew bubblegum" line is classic!

    • @JR-sx3gl
      @JR-sx3gl 4 года назад +17

      Don't feel bad about liking the film. I think it has more to offer than anti capitalism message. Carpenter says it is the capitalism's fault, but majority of the film you can see all the tactics employed by communist countries. It's like they say one, but show the other.

    • @michaelvandeginste3497
      @michaelvandeginste3497 4 года назад +16

      @@JR-sx3gl oh trust me, I don't feel bad at all, mainly because I agree with you. If anything, this movie's plot need only be slightly tweaked to instead symbolize Marxist infiltrations of our institutions today.

  • @bean4036
    @bean4036 4 года назад +50

    You're videos are so good!!! I love watching every single time! Keep it up.

  • @jobsmine
    @jobsmine 4 года назад +122

    The idea that one person is responsible for the problem we have is just delirious. And it saddens me to see it today in the eyes of SJW and Liberal Americans. I just wish they could go and visit where I immigrated from. A cruel socialist government where we had to fight for water, food, and shelter. I honestly can't believe how foolish today's people sound. But then again blame the Tvs and News Media for pushing the agenda to create division among people. anyways great content from FEE... liked, and subscribed as always.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +3

      Oh where did you immigrate from?

    • @jeffg7478
      @jeffg7478 4 года назад +4

      Socialist totalitarianism is the world they want to create for us in America except it will be infused with a racial hierarchy.

  • @ProfSir1
    @ProfSir1 4 года назад +67

    I for one want a new set of tropes. How about the angry "I want to be part of everything" woman, or the entitled celebrity that fails to realize they are the real villain? Let's replace the tired businessman bad" troupe.

    • @1986tessie
      @1986tessie 4 года назад +7

      Truth is stranger than fiction.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 3 года назад +2

      Nowadays we probably need at least a corrupt sycophant on each side, a juxtaposing "partner" for each that are commited to each cause, and the masses played like puppets between the polarization

    • @mitchellatticuswolfgang6554
      @mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 3 года назад +2

      Okay but let’s not forget that there are evil businessmen, silicon Valley is fucking corrupt as shit, The oil industry, shallow patronizing corporations that repeat”hip”Social mantras to get us to buy fucking razors.

    • @ProfSir1
      @ProfSir1 3 года назад +2

      @@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 I hear that loud and clear. My objective with this comment was just to poke fun at that fact that modern media makes it seem like certain people should be untouchable, when the reality is art offends everyone. Sometimes, that's what makes it art.

    • @mitchellatticuswolfgang6554
      @mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 3 года назад +1

      @@ProfSir1 right on dude!

  • @JustJohnForNow
    @JustJohnForNow 4 года назад +47

    I've always enjoyed They Live, even if the underlying message was a bit confused. Too many people confuse capitalism with shallow consumerism or corporate authoritarianism, thinking socialism will magically solve everything by making us "obey." Thanks for giving a unique viewpoint on this movie.

    • @sikViduser
      @sikViduser 3 года назад +3

      Underrated comment

    • @JustJohnForNow
      @JustJohnForNow 2 года назад +2

      @@blahblahblah4544 The director, John Carpenter, is definitely not a conservative, but modern day liberals would call him “problematic” or perhaps even “toxic.” The movie is most often viewed as a critique of the Reagan era, but that hasn’t held up in retrospect. Nobody needs subliminal ads to make them procreate. However, you might need such ads or related media to convince them that having a family isn’t worth it. A remake of this movie based on today’s cultural conflict could be really good.

  • @soulfuzz368
    @soulfuzz368 4 года назад +50

    Interesting video as always.
    I slightly disagree with this one though as I see a clear difference between capitalism and the culture of consumerism. I am a very staunch free market guy but I also think there is a very important critique to be made about how our desire to consume can be unhealthy for people and the earth. That being said, I think some of the blame should be on the consumers themselves and not only the people giving them what they want.

  • @ExPwner
    @ExPwner 4 года назад +60

    Yeah, I noticed the anti-capitalist bias from They Live as well. It was still an enjoyable movie, but their take on economics was AWFUL.

    • @ExPwner
      @ExPwner 4 года назад +20

      They almost got it right. The state and their cronies push that kind of thing, but that ain't capitalism. That's crony socialism.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +6

      @@ExPwner yeah reagan was staunch socialist. quick someone tell that to GOP.

    • @John199312
      @John199312 4 года назад +5

      I just read it as anti-consumerism. Walk through a shopping mall with a bunch of apparel stores and see tiny dresses made in China or India, 100% cotton going for $250.
      And you see photos of celebrities and politicians wearing the brand. I can feel the "CONSUME" "ASSIMILATE," and "FASHION" signs in my peripheral vision.
      I should mention I don't believe in authorial intent.

    • @ExPwner
      @ExPwner 4 года назад +1

      @@thotslayer9914 actually I have. It's just utter nonsense.

  • @MrDmitriRavenoff
    @MrDmitriRavenoff 4 года назад +28

    You mean I can't just scream at the orange man until somebody solves all my problems for me? I feel attacked! /s

  • @556deltawolf
    @556deltawolf 4 года назад +65

    You know what else really grinds my gears about all the anti capitalism movies? When you really look at fictional worlds like Blade Runner, They Live, Running Man, and the like, this whole "a world where the rich get richer and poor get poorer" not only makes no sense, it's mathematically unsustainable. How are the rich making all that money if almost everyone is so poor they can't even afford to bathe? Yeah sorry but the "evil corporation" trope fails every time you think about it on a mathmatical level. "Oh companies only care about money and not people and will penny pinch and do anything to make money". So... spending millions of dollars on a private army to run natives off their land will make money how? Now it makes sense for a government to do that but not a corporation. Again I think the problem with a lot of these directors is that they think the American dream is all about "Equality and democracy" but it isn't. The American dream is about pursuing your own goals and happiness.

    • @JMObyx
      @JMObyx 4 года назад +6

      "How are the rich making all that money if almost everyone is so poor they can't even afford to bathe?"
      Taxation of course!

    • @errorcode6168
      @errorcode6168 4 года назад +6

      @@JMObyx Taxes go to the government, most of it FROM rich people.

    • @yannicwehner4698
      @yannicwehner4698 3 года назад +2

      Congratulations on finding out that capitalism indeed is mathematically unsustainable. Could already have gotten this from the fact that the our wealth rises (but does it really?) all while we're in never seen gloabl debt. Could it be that debt = prosperity and that as long as we increase debt we could prosper under any system? Could it be that the bad thing about capitalism is thar it increases debt not to fuel prosperity into the hand of the general population, could it be that they increase debt to fuel the wealth into the hands of a small capital owning elite all while the rest of us in comparison to our massive wealth increase still is as bad or worse of than people centuries ago?

    • @yannicwehner4698
      @yannicwehner4698 3 года назад +3

      @@errorcode6168 surplus value is a tax workers pay to capitalists for their kind gesture of letting them work on their property but no only guberment is bad and can impose taxes.
      "Calling something a corporation instead of guberment frees me from the burden to logically compare stuff the guberment does to stuff a corporation does."

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 3 года назад +1

      Maybe they can't afford to bathe, but can still afford food to have enough energy to "appreciate" the "kind gesture" of letting them work at companies when the alternative is starving to death, of course!

  • @bielgomes0901
    @bielgomes0901 4 года назад +33

    "Nada" is "nothing" in Portuguese, i don't know if this is relevant, but knowledge is knowledge

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 4 года назад +5

      Spanish also

    • @serbianslav5494
      @serbianslav5494 3 года назад

      In Serbian and probably some other slavic languages, "nada" means "hope"

  • @DocsDota
    @DocsDota 4 года назад +22

    Reminds me of something that is highly political now in schools is competitions and trophies.
    The idea of competitions is to encourage everyone to do their best, and whoever does the best gets rewarded (handsomely, per se). You managed to get children to work harder than they've ever worked before.
    However, the downside is that some kids (if not all) are going to be losers who didn't get to win. So to protect their feelings there should never be competitions, or everyone gets a trophy. 0
    If you look at it from that sense you can see where capitalism is being questioned. Capitalism naturally will reward people who do their best, at the same time engage in the envy of everyone who didn't do as well. We need people to do their best, and the reason why socialist countries collapse is because nobody is allowed to do their best - or at least be rewarded for doing so, which basically deters them from doing it in the first place.

    • @Tyjohnable
      @Tyjohnable 4 года назад +5

      I think that's why union workers tend to suck.
      The employee that excels gets treated the same as the one who does just enough to not get fired.
      What's worse is the shitty employee will actually get treated better as long as he started first.

  • @DocsDota
    @DocsDota 4 года назад +36

    The idea of people being manipulated into consuming goods and feeding into big corporations' wealth is such a lie if you just ask individuals that complain "why do you buy their stuff?"
    Is it necessary to have a wardrobe filled with clothes? The newest apple products? how about going out and buy your stuff instead of ordering it through amazon?
    The only thing that is driving this kind of sentiment is envy. You don't look at how good your society is, rather, you only look at how good the richest people in your society are compared to you.

    • @gabrielrevigliono8241
      @gabrielrevigliono8241 4 года назад +1

      @William Loudermilk They are free to buy. It is call responsability. If you are a idiot, that is your problem.
      If life give you lemons, you make lemonade. If life give you idiots, you make a society (and it isnt slavary if they give you all in exchange of little).

    • @JohnDoe-sw1sm
      @JohnDoe-sw1sm 4 года назад +3

      lol pretending marketing isn't a billion dollar industry that is specifically designed to get people to buy things.

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho 3 года назад +2

      @@JohnDoe-sw1sm it's not hard to see through it and make rational decisions. It's not wrong as long they aren't lying about their service.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 3 года назад

      @@Nathan-jh1ho if this was the case why would companies spend just a dollar on marketing?

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 3 года назад

      @@Nathan-jh1ho also many advertisments don't sell you a product. They sell you a feeling.

  • @Drow1342
    @Drow1342 4 года назад +7

    "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum." ... "They Live" was one of my Favorite 80s films even though it has a B movie vibe... Rest in peace Rowdy Roddy Piper..

  • @DeepEye1994
    @DeepEye1994 4 года назад +47

    At least the movie still shows that a lot of humans decide to side with the aliens, and I like the open ending where we don't see what exactly is gonna happen next after the aliens are revealed (will the aliens be defeated, or there's gonna be a Civil War between humans vs alien-supporting humans?). I didn't get the feel that these aliens can do much without their human allies, so I don't fully believe the film is scapegoating the aliens as the source of ALL troubles.

    • @yamiyugi2894
      @yamiyugi2894 4 года назад +3

      Its probably a civil war like in the original short story

    • @nickguh1323
      @nickguh1323 3 года назад

      In reality, everyone shrugs it off and keeps working and obeying them.

  • @tristanmorris9432
    @tristanmorris9432 4 года назад +7

    I always heard that the 1980s was an amazing time for America and American morale. I suppose it depends on who you ask.
    The politics of this country seem to be a pendulum swing. When conservative politics comes in, the people get annoyed with it and push for leftist ideals. When the leftist ideals are popular and mainstream, the people get sick of it and promote more conservative ideals.

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 4 года назад +3

      Yah that seems to be the case. And bc of our representative democracy we see those swings in 2-4-6-8 year increments depending on the whims of the people. A peaceful overthrow of the previous regime. I’m sitting on the bird like, if you both flap your wings at the same time and work together maybe we can get this bird to fly! But if the bird can’t get off the ground, it also can’t crash so 🤷🏼‍♀️ dunno where this metaphor is going

  • @bryanb.386
    @bryanb.386 4 года назад +14

    At one time the importance of consumerism in capitalism was taught in school. They gave you the information for you to decide if you wanted to partake or not. Now they just teach we are helpless to it and it needs to be destroyed for Mama government.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +1

      Nowadays we realised consumerism works only if you have unlimited resources and there are no negative byproducts of it otherwise it is a systemn with tendency to self destruct as we are seeing today not to mention it lead to some pretty bad market practiceses such as planned obsolesence. Or possibly you comment comes from confusion about the use of the term today( which I am reffering to) and the one before 1970s.

  • @NessaEllenesse
    @NessaEllenesse 4 года назад +30

    Well that explains my disdain for the horror genre espeally 1970s and 1980s.

  • @travissmith2848
    @travissmith2848 4 года назад +29

    "Nada" for an unnamed character, nice...... means literally "nothing". Applied to a drifter.... they are actually calling their main character a nobody. Classy.
    There is something rather ironic about a movie railing against the authoritarianism of "big business" effectively endorsing a governmental form that in nearly every incarnation has been expressed as a true dictatorship.

  • @robertlewis6915
    @robertlewis6915 4 года назад +9

    I still love the fight scene in the alleyway over the glasses. I'll probably never watch the whole movie, though.

  • @kellybarthel8060
    @kellybarthel8060 4 года назад +7

    Carpenter was just plain wrong, but still love this movie always have. What is crazy (when it first came out) i thought it was a movie about the evils of socialism and communism it was not until about years ago that he was writing about Regan. If he would have done it about my idea I guess he would have been right on. Still love the movie though and watch it every so often.

    • @JR-sx3gl
      @JR-sx3gl 4 года назад +4

      Corruption, propaganda, manipulation, the importance of class (and keeping the ones below down allowing progression only by complete compliance and corruption), authoritarians using power of police to submit citizens. All that screamed "communism" to me. I never read the film as anti capitalism (but back when I watched it first time I knew a little about the subject).

  • @Shadow25720
    @Shadow25720 3 года назад +2

    0:48 Hollywood: I'm playing both sides so I always come on top

  • @Nick-go9yd
    @Nick-go9yd 3 года назад +7

    oh boy... I can’t wait to see what the libertarian think tank FEE has to say about a critique on capitalism!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if it will be extra nuanced!!!!!????

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK Год назад +1

    Seems like most of those Anti-business movies were simply reflecting what they saw around them, it's not really any surprise that the Cyberpunk genre had it's rise during the 80's.

  • @fountaincap
    @fountaincap 4 года назад +4

    Carpenter might have been wrong about the free market, but I do enjoy the healthy dose of anti-authoritarianism in They Live and Escape from New York.

  • @idiotproofdalek
    @idiotproofdalek 4 года назад +5

    John Carpenter has always struck me as somewhat confused.

  • @FirstLast-vr7es
    @FirstLast-vr7es 4 года назад +3

    We regulate peoples' lives through laws because people sometimes misbehave and cause harm. Businesses sometimes misbehave too, so their regulation is absolutely necessary. "They Live" shows a world where "free enterprise" has truly been implemented. i.e. They can do whatever they want, and the common people were the ones that bled for it. We don't have "free enterprise" here in the US though, and I pray we never do.

    • @Shoxic666
      @Shoxic666 4 года назад

      exactly!
      they live is about the effect of anarcho capitalism eventually leading to fascism by another name because there was no regulations against it.

  • @josephspectre8810
    @josephspectre8810 4 года назад +3

    this channel is so underrated

  • @SM-pv4sn
    @SM-pv4sn 4 года назад +4

    I always enjoy how optimistic your videos are. I like things that present such a positive message, and I quite liked your acknowldgement that we can't just blame our problems on "big government". As you alluded to, that would be simply saying "if only we can rid the world of this evil, the good can prosper". As Solzhenitsyn famously wrote, the line of good and evil runs straight down the middle of every individual's heart. The world is not made up of the categorically "good" and "evil".

  • @jayman4569
    @jayman4569 4 года назад +40

    I like to stay away from horror movies period. Just doesn't click with me why people like to watch this kind of stuff.

    • @luizcastro5246
      @luizcastro5246 4 года назад +2

      novelty

    • @rikiishitoru8885
      @rikiishitoru8885 4 года назад +6

      Some horror movies are pretty good, like The Hills Have Eyes

    • @NessaEllenesse
      @NessaEllenesse 4 года назад +5

      Something about those movies rubbed me wrong, now i know what.

    • @NDHFilms
      @NDHFilms 4 года назад +12

      As Stephen King put it, we create horrors in order to deal with the real ones.

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад

      @@rikiishitoru8885 LOL, dude! The Hills Have Eyes is another movie that criticizes conservative culture. You know, the very thing the video is decrying! XD

  • @nickvliet4614
    @nickvliet4614 4 года назад +4

    IDK it seems like a good critique of cronyism (I haven't seen the movie yet so just based on what was discussed in video) one of the obstacles to getting a job was having to join a union, manufacturing the sunglasses had to be done in secret, the wealthy and the politicians work together to maintain the status quo of an elite ruling class to the detriment of everyone else, like you said such a society is not a free market

  • @notfrank6586
    @notfrank6586 4 года назад +7

    tldr:
    society is a " us" problem not a " you" problem or you can't just dump homelessness on bunch of people and expect them to actually do the job because stuff as such needs to be addressed by every one.

    • @hrgrhrhhr
      @hrgrhrhhr 4 года назад +4

      I had a stroke trying to read this

  • @gabehere
    @gabehere 4 года назад +1

    Another GREAT video as always. Your voice is so good to listen to, and your content is so deep. I wish more of my college professors were more like you and I feel bad having all of this content for free, but sadly I don't have money to throw at you guys every month, or else I would without a second thought

  • @keithdean9149
    @keithdean9149 4 года назад +7

    Still one of the coolest fight scenes ever.

  • @cameronscott7304
    @cameronscott7304 4 года назад +3

    I'm so glad they get Ron Howard to narrate these videos. ;)

  • @alexbazurto6775
    @alexbazurto6775 4 года назад +5

    I get you don’t want to be political outright, but let’s be honest, there is one side, not necessarily a party but entire wing, that is much *much* more anti free market than the other

  • @enki2958
    @enki2958 4 года назад +2

    I think that the problem is not capitalism or evil ET's. The core of the social, economical and political problems, at least in my opinion is the central bank controlled money system. If we had a monetary system that would serve the people instead of the other way around, most of the problems in the afore mentioned fields would vanish.

  • @attalan8732
    @attalan8732 4 года назад +24

    Ah yes, accuse individualism of being anti-individualistic and promote collectivism as being individualistic.

    • @hrgrhrhhr
      @hrgrhrhhr 4 года назад

      What exactly are you referring to in this comment?

    • @jeffg7478
      @jeffg7478 4 года назад +10

      I’ll take a stab: Pursuing you own goals and becoming a successful entrepreneur is bad for society but coming together and sharing your labor and wealth brings independent happiness. Communist propaganda.

  • @EricGranata
    @EricGranata 4 года назад +2

    This channel is a gem.

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodSnyderMan
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodSnyderMan 4 года назад +1

    Its just business was one of my faves too. Out of Frame is the best!

  • @armandoeng
    @armandoeng 3 года назад +1

    On your commentary: "How things are portrayed on movies and TV Shows has really skewed people's understanding of reality".
    I can confirm on that. I grew up watching TV and movies. When confronting reality, I discovered how bad I was on understanding reality. Some help later, I discovered that the root was these movies and TV shows (I didnt know how much of impact storytelling has on our views). I had to spend a lot of time and money revisiting these ideas and fixing me. I'm still doing it, and I just stopped seeing movies to stop the damage. For better or worse, I was also a religious person (catholic), the religion side of me helped to face all of that. If was not for that, I probably wouldnt be here writing this.
    Today, I just watch videos on RUclips. If I see a movie, I have to always remember that is just a lie and I cannot take it seriously. Thnks for you channel, it helps me a lot on trying to understand reality and cleasing some misconceptions.

  • @benmoore3816
    @benmoore3816 4 года назад +4

    Just saw a movie last night that I think is a prime specimen for this type of video. Netlfix's "In the Shadow of the Moon." You would have a field day picking it apart.

    • @rockytopbritt
      @rockytopbritt 4 года назад +1

      I very much second that. That movie disturbed me. I felt like it was preaching how much better the world would be if the left just murdered the right.

  • @ilusha88
    @ilusha88 4 года назад +31

    We need a libertarian remake of They Live. It's a really fun movie.

    • @samurguy9906
      @samurguy9906 4 года назад +14

      Eh, taking another person’s work and rebooting it with your ideals packaged in should be left to woke Hollywood writers. Make your own stuff.

    • @the.mr.nobody
      @the.mr.nobody 4 года назад +4

      Samurguy990 well said.

    • @GigaChadh976
      @GigaChadh976 2 года назад

      Making a reboot doesn’t sound very libertarian

    • @ilusha88
      @ilusha88 2 года назад

      @@GigaChadh976 why?

  • @spaceracer23
    @spaceracer23 4 года назад +2

    Hollywood 1900 - 2019: Capitalism is evil and big business makes to much money!
    Hollywood 2020: Our big business ventures are failing. GIVE US PUBLIC MONEY!!!!

    • @JohnDoe-sw1sm
      @JohnDoe-sw1sm 4 года назад

      i mean there is a difference between Directors , writers, actors and like the big financiers of Hollywood.

  • @notyetdeleted6319
    @notyetdeleted6319 3 года назад +2

    Big government isn’t the source of all my problems, but most certainly is some of them.
    No amount of work on my part can change laws that try to dictate my life, not unless those laws change

  • @pathfindersavant3988
    @pathfindersavant3988 4 года назад

    I know its a bit out of FEE's usual purview, but I'd like to see a video analyzing the idea put out and shown by the recent indie videogame No Straight Roads, particularly regarding the stuff that happens in the final act. The story and writing at the end comes across as an interesting and well-communicated critique of central-planning, the problems of government oversight, the dangers of tribalism, and the importance of the freedom of expression and competition in not just markets and society as a whole.

  • @Cernumospete
    @Cernumospete 4 года назад +2

    8:50 Conceding what this movie is about, this is exactly the thing an alien would want use to think.

  • @sebastienholmes548
    @sebastienholmes548 4 года назад +1

    We keep talking about how bad corporatism is, when we should be talking about how to stop it.

    • @FEEonline
      @FEEonline  4 года назад +4

      This question has been asked and answered correctly for at least 250 years.
      To reduce corporatism, reduce the power government has over the economy. As long as the state controls what people are allowed to produce, sell, or buy, and as long as they have the power to regulate or subsidize companies at their discretion, there will always be corporatism.
      Take that power away and there is nothing to lobby for. No subsidies or regulations for big corporations to capture. No way to benefit at the expense of smaller competitors.

  • @fc4511
    @fc4511 4 года назад

    Man, you are the best the smoothness of the script, narration and editing is incredible, besides the awesome message. Truly inspiring

  • @johnsanders561
    @johnsanders561 4 года назад +2

    I remember that movie, I thought it had so much potential but it was poorly done.
    Needs a proper remake.

  • @alphaleonis986
    @alphaleonis986 4 года назад

    David Icke has talked about this movie. Everyone has banned him but there are still some interviews available and he has his own website. For the curious.

  • @thegreekgeek7252
    @thegreekgeek7252 4 года назад +1

    I’ve been waiting for a video like this

  • @srivatshavsinha911
    @srivatshavsinha911 4 года назад +1

    I get great movie suggestions just from his content, thanks for it sir.

  • @nicolasuribe5080
    @nicolasuribe5080 4 года назад +4

    Nada means "nothing" in spanish.

  • @Individual_Lives_Matter
    @Individual_Lives_Matter 3 года назад +4

    They Live was still awesome.

  • @dcfc4evr
    @dcfc4evr 4 года назад +22

    It's always been amazing to me how long hollywood has been dominated by leftists

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +7

      It really took off in the 60's. I mean, Jack Nicholson goes on a diatribe about communist aliens in Easy Rider. Dalton Trumbo actually blocked the novel Darkness at Noon from being adapted to film because it made communism look bad. Most filmmakers are either in league with the Left or are just too far removed from everyday life to understand how wrong they are.

    • @ExPwner
      @ExPwner 4 года назад +2

      @Kahless exactly! We need more stories that actually make sense and conform to economic reality.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      @Kahless There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
      I feel sorry for you. By the way did you know that part of the series was crowdsourced. lol

    • @rogerreyne1877
      @rogerreyne1877 4 года назад

      Pedonest

    • @hrgrhrhhr
      @hrgrhrhhr 4 года назад +1

      @@marekvincibr5884 I'll be honest, I haven't read Atlas Shrugged, nor have I seen it, so I'm not going to pretend I know if it's any good or not. But what does part of the series having been crowdsourced have to do with anything? If you're implying what I think you are, I think you should know that the problem with "forcing people to help" isn't the "help" part, it's the "forcing people to" part.

  • @AnglicanFish
    @AnglicanFish 4 года назад +2

    This is why I want anarcho capitalism the movie

  • @DawsonFord
    @DawsonFord 4 года назад +1

    This is one of my favorite channels

  • @SethTurnerPrinting
    @SethTurnerPrinting 4 года назад +2

    Keep doing these. They are really good

  • @AxelXGabriel
    @AxelXGabriel 4 года назад +3

    How exactly is the problems in the world/economy my fault or how I am in any way contributing to it?

    • @hrgrhrhhr
      @hrgrhrhhr 4 года назад +1

      Admittedly, what I _think_ he's trying to say is that your own problems are your responsibility, but the way it's phrased and the context it's delivered in make it a really poorly delivered message. Just watch the Wonder Woman and "It's Just Business" videos instead, this one is nothing more than a mediocre combination of the two.

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames 4 года назад +1

    R.i.p "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, this was the movie that made me a fan.
    This movie did at the time and still does resonate with people, not because they necessarily hate capitalism, but because a lot of people who engage in and profit the most from it tend to be jerks.

  • @RocTroller
    @RocTroller 4 года назад +2

    Another fantastic video

  • @KyleKringle
    @KyleKringle 4 года назад +2

    I'm not used to seeing a young Keith David. Didn't recognize him til I heard the voice 3:03

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 4 года назад +18

    If They Live is given a remake, the aliens would be Liberalists and Nada would be Chinese.

  • @ladylestranj
    @ladylestranj 4 года назад +1

    Dawn of the Dead was black and white and I don't recall a shopping mall. Night of the Comet took place in a shopping mall.

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 3 года назад

      You're mixing up Night of the Living Dead (black and white, Romero) Dawn of the Dead (mall, Romero), and Night of the Comet (various locations, Carpenter).

    • @ladylestranj
      @ladylestranj 3 года назад

      @@jacobstaten2366 You're right, I was....

  • @vidard9863
    @vidard9863 4 года назад +1

    I appreciate the spoiler warning, this movie is on my watch list... Yeah, I know, but it is a long list!

  • @phillip4208
    @phillip4208 3 года назад +1

    7:09 we will never be able to throw power away. if no one uses it for good someone WILL eventually use it for their own selfish gain. The problem is who has the power.

  • @ronaldfrechette2045
    @ronaldfrechette2045 4 года назад +2

    I'm sorry, I was supposed to be getting a message from They Live? I was focused on the cool one liners and how gorgeous Meg Foster is.

  • @jorge6207
    @jorge6207 3 года назад +2

    It's quite revealing how the 1987 crash, created by reaganite deregulation, is not referred, yet the 'irresponsible fiscal policy' of the 70s is. A bit intelectual desonesty does wonders among the iliterate.

  • @mschrage618
    @mschrage618 4 года назад +1

    It was such a good movie though..
    Wait a minute... I never noticed that’s the President from Rick and Morty

    • @theatand
      @theatand 4 года назад

      He was also in Community (later seasons), and Gargoyles

  • @christophermoonlightproduction
    @christophermoonlightproduction 4 года назад +7

    Bravo on another great episode. While enjoyable, there has always been a lot about They Live that didn't sit well with me, most notably that the hero decides that the best course of action is to shoot up a bank. I sometimes wonder if this movie was one of the catalysts that sparked the rash of mass shootings that have only recently seemed to stop... albeit replaced by riots.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      Ahh yes all those shootings were clearly anticapitalist thats why I not a single one has taken place in a bank (that wasn´t robbery). Thatś totally it guy you figured it out it was those commies all along. (/s because this is internet)

    • @christophermoonlightproduction
      @christophermoonlightproduction 4 года назад +2

      @@marekvincibr5884 Semantics are the go-to of a weak argument. Most mass shootings are by people who feel they're sticking it to some system. That's why they write manifestoes. The location is irrelevant but I think you already understood that.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      @@christophermoonlightproduction their manifostoes rarely even mention capitalism at all. Its mostly much more personal and your Idea that this movie is somehow responsible for mass shootings is absurd.

    • @christophermoonlightproduction
      @christophermoonlightproduction 4 года назад +1

      @@marekvincibr5884 No, the mass shooters are responsible for mass shootings. However, do not underestimate the power of ideas. They are the birthplace of all things manifest in the human race from coffee tables to trips to the moon. To believe that does not hold true for acts of violence is what's really absurd.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      @@christophermoonlightproduction wtf you trying to prove. You Are now talking about irrelant truism about ideas. While I was pointing out absurdity of your original comment that this relatively niche movie led in any degree to mass shootings which btw existed before this movie even came out.

  • @lucasstchur5441
    @lucasstchur5441 4 года назад +1

    I listen to Austin Wintory on Alanah Pearce’s podcast!!! Super cool dude!

  • @zaydk2196
    @zaydk2196 3 года назад

    Here's hoping you analyse more of Carpenter's astounding filmography with reference to how he had to face studio interference and worked on very little budgets.

  • @esakkiraj128
    @esakkiraj128 4 года назад +2

    We, the viewers want a video on Aquaman, the Atlantic on real life and so much

  • @bluecoin3771
    @bluecoin3771 2 года назад

    It is better to correct a flaw within yourself than to find a thousand in another.

  • @ashclaw2306
    @ashclaw2306 4 года назад

    Dang , I just remembered i watched this movie in VHS when that still was a thing .

  • @nilss5036
    @nilss5036 4 года назад +2

    It's still one of my favourite movies 😁

  • @spec24
    @spec24 3 года назад +2

    "... replace the bad thing with the good thing..." while showing Trump and Biden. That takes some serious disconnect with reality.

  • @davedelta0074
    @davedelta0074 4 года назад +2

    Jordan Peterson lives in your message.

  • @ChrysanthsMum
    @ChrysanthsMum 4 года назад

    It’s a good thing I didn’t realize that about 80s horror. I loved them all. The message didn’t penetrate my brain. You know why? Because they were movies. I lived through the 80s and it wasn’t bad.

  • @maximos905
    @maximos905 3 года назад

    I was watching the Movie called Hotel Artemis which is pretty good but I flipped out when they were saying the people were rioting because water became privatized and expensive. I'm like that is ass backwards

  • @eugeneforge
    @eugeneforge 4 года назад +2

    Personal responsibility as a solution!?!? How dare you!!!!

  • @touchstone1682
    @touchstone1682 3 года назад

    Amazing video!

  • @cgm4379
    @cgm4379 4 года назад

    It's interesting that the main character is named Nada, Nada in spanish means "nothing".

  • @purestress2597
    @purestress2597 4 года назад

    I personally prefer to point out that the story requires the characters to put on glasses that will "reveal the truth of the world to you" but instead of revealing anything they may be masking everything but lies from you.

  • @thuglifebear5256
    @thuglifebear5256 4 года назад +8

    Personally, I've always found Hollywood's social messages to be overly preachy, and brainlessly idiotic. A simple google search would be more informative than the average flick. Don't try to _teach_ us anything. You're not smart enough.

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 4 года назад +1

    Capitalism is evil
    Now give us money
    Hollywood in a nutshell

  • @Ivan4n09
    @Ivan4n09 4 года назад +3

    I don't think you came to a clear enough conclusion in this video. You intrigued me with the 80s but didn't explain exactly what was happening back then.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад +1

      Reagan was fucking economy of USA with his idea of trickle down economics.

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 года назад +6

      Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher both moved their respective countries into a more "hands off" economic stance. They believed in capitalism and small government. While it meant good things for many, for some it was detrimental. The closing of factories in northern towns in England, less regulations for corporations in America, etc. It meant already big businesses were able to get even bigger, and to many it seemed as though the common man got left in the dust. That's what Nada embodies in They Live. He represents an itinerant worker who gets repeatedly kicked in the teeth by the system. That was the "Reaganism" that Carpenter was railing against. Obviously there's a lot more to it, but I hope this kinda elucidated on the basis of it.

    • @marekvincibr5884
      @marekvincibr5884 4 года назад

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx by the way the trickle down economics never worked if you aren´t already rich. Its the kind of socialism the rich man would want. The one where he gats the goverments money. And all the antisocialist comments (such as inflation is forgotten) are forgotten. Is much worse because money doesn´t trickle down as Will rogers said in 1932
      This election was lost four and six years ago, not this year. They [Republicans] didn’t start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour. The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer. He knew that water trickles down. Put it uphill and let it go and it will reach the driest little spot. But he didn’t know that money trickled up. Give it to the people at the bottom and the people at the top will have it before night, anyhow. But it will at least have passed through the poor fellow's hands. They saved the big banks, but the little ones went up the flue.

    • @FEEonline
      @FEEonline  4 года назад +8

      @@marekvincibr5884 "trickle down" was always just a name critics used for their caricature of supply side theory. It doesn't actually exist.
      fee.org/articles/there-is-no-such-thing-as-trickle-down-economics/
      And Reagan certainly wasn't nearly as much of a free market guy as advertised.
      mises.org/library/myths-reaganomics
      That said, the economy of the early 80s was largely a product of policies from the 70s, and not anything to do with Reagan anyway.
      But yes, some people have always been mad about "Reaganomics". Unfortunately, most could neither define nor explain what that actually meant.

  • @lns3858
    @lns3858 4 года назад

    You need to make a video on John Carpenter's The Thing, it would be perfect for the times of pandemic

  • @sreerajr6470
    @sreerajr6470 4 года назад

    The statute of limitation may have expired.. nice quote