The previous video with the mistaken information about the Dimensional Typhoon Second Chace has been taken down to prevent further misunderstanding. Again, sorry for the confusion.
Again the way communication is done always seems to be broken or like a translation to to English like bad anime dubb/sub conflicts with two completely different meanings. Buyout is the key word that got missed out big time. Even casual Does RUclips videos stating the buyout for events is 2000 Zen as its in the articles as they are still being copy and pasted saying its 2000 and not 2500 when its been a long time since it was 2000 last by a couple of years. The Halloween page has since been corrected as was wrong but have now started fixing but still get statements like "this has been corrected to reflect the collect amount" at least they are updating the right amount of Zen has seriously annoyed many over last couple of years.
I was kind of hoping that it would have been a return/extension of the event as well...there's a couple members of my fleet that are kind of irritated with needing to spend to finish it. They got hit with the hurricane stuff combined with a few other things
@@TheOneTrueDragonKing Hell, I remember back when I was playing WoW, there was the horrible wind storm where I lived, they extended one of the events and even extended subscription durations for players in the area as a good will/publicity thing. LotRO/DDO have both done the same kind of thing for a lot of stuff as well
honestly, not surprised that they pulled it this way, gett everyone hopes up wwith making it sound like you get a second shot at grinding it out for those who missed by natural cases and such, then pull 180 at last second and go "actually what we ment to say was you get a second chance through your credit card cough cough" ..... honestly does not surprise me and ye your defo right they should have worded that one better. also dont beat yourself up mate cause i'm betting a massie chunk of people on here and other places probably thought the same thing.
You're not an idiot. I think you were just being hopeful. No where initially do I think it stated "buyout". It would've been a nice gesture but instead it is just modus operandi.
@@marhawkman303 I disagree with the sentiment. (I think) Cryptic has done an extension if not a re-run of an event before when there had been a mass disruption in real-life.
I suspected with the phrase “Second Chance” involved, it meant the buyout. When it was that specifically instead of a something like “another opportunity”, it just made sense. But it certainly was ambiguous, and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it man. Regarding the buyout option, I don’t know that I’d pick it up for the full $60. If and when it eventually ends up in Mudds, it’ll probably be like $40 on a 75% off sale. Granted, that’ll be in like 2 years if the game makes it that long, so there’s a cost of not having it for that period. I haven’t even unpacked mine, so I guess I’m not really the guy to ask
This shows the difference between ego driven devs and people with a healthy amount of humility. You are will to own up to a mistake and apologize, while I cant remember any time where I have seen a game dev say oh we screwed up on this, our bad. I do agree with others that part of the fault is DECAs poor communication, which we have seen with there blogs that leave us guessing about things like traits and consoles. You do good work and do not feel too bad about the mistake. We are all human and nobody is perfect, as my wife reminds me periodically.
You were being optimistic about the tweet. Nothing wrong with that. And it WOULD have been clear IF they had added the word buyout. Not sure who made the tweet, but I believe Kael mentioned leaving at the end of this month, so maybe that was still him. But for me somehow the whole "second chance" thing immediately triggered my brain to add "buyout" to it. I've never even used it but the term "Second chance buyout" is just stuck in my brain. Maybe because Cryptic has this shtick of taking away the buyout option at the end of an event so that people who missed out would ask why the buyout is missing and then (usually) with the following patch Cryptic could do their best Q impression and be like: "Pitiful mortals, you have missed your chance but we are merciful gods, so here is the "Second Chance Buyout" you have been clamoring for! Revel in our magnanimous splendor!"
A lot of people were saying it was probably the buyout, but I didn't realize it hadn't been around either so I was 50/50 on it. They should've worded things better.
Me too Stu, me too! I've had this game since it came to console, have purchased like 70 ships and still have mid damage output. I guess I'm stupid because I just can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Pretty sure it's cause of the dill that everyone would get cause they already did it u could max out ur alts with dill instead of finding a way around it and plus this was probably far easier to add back in game and they can collect more money
The tweet has a 50/50 chance here. Either Kael is doing his usual bangup job. Or, it is new Decca staff that does not know the ins and outs yet. Either could be correct.
Typographical errors and dotty headed moments of confusion are things that impacts most everyone - Deca Games included. Cryptic Studios had it's less than stellar moments, too - in case anyone remembers the numerous patches associated with STO's Romulan Legacy Expansion in May of 2013? 'Nuff said. #LLAP 🖖
Don't beat yourself up for someone else's lack of proper communication skills. One thing I noticed with some, if not most, game devs, GMs and techs is that they lack the proper comms skills. Just look at some of the game instructions (not much in STO though) and NPC dialogues. They should get a good copy writer or comms moderator/admin. BTW, I enjoy and appreciate your posts. Very helpful in-game. Cheers! Faril@christhomas
I wondered why SAB felt necessary to clarify so hard in his video haha. It's okay Stu it was an honest mistake and doesn't negatively impact anyone so don't beat yourself up about it
A mistake everyone could make second chance is only available uf you didn't finish the event and only ubtil the year long campaign is finished. If you take everything and beat the event same time it is active this option is permanently greyed out until bugs happen. So no worries the reason they didn't say buy ought because that's the phrase used for active events.
You're not an idiot, and based on my experience here, in-game and on Reddit, you are far from alone. Sorry folks, the twitter post was clear enough. Yes, they could have added "buyout", and they have in the patch notes, but it really didn't say that they were rerunning the event. Please, please, STO YTers, raise your bar, read, reread, think, maybe even talk to an in-game friend about things before rushing out to be the first to make a video on it. There have been so many times I've been chatting to someone in-game who had very incorrect information but insisted it was gospel because they saw it on a [insert STO YTer name here] video, and it can be very difficult to get them back on track. People listen to you, and a lot of them don't like reading for themselves so they wait for your videos. Please, measure twice, cut once.
i cant buy out anything because the dil market is totally broken lol be nice if people opened those stupid boxes that are intended to keep this games economy running..
So yeah, I'll be blunt: whenever they say "Second Chance" that's a buyout, not a repeat of the whole event. Always has been, always will be. And it's a 5-year-old system at least. The Second Chance buyouts have been a thing since Reputation Events were retired back in Season 18, which was in 2019. Ever since then, whenever they say "Second Chance" it's always been a buyout, whether for Zen or for Lobi. Which means that system has been in place for five, almost six years now. I hate to say it, but... Ya blew it, pal! You should have known it was a buyout! No excuses, no shifting the blame onto DECA or the devs. You should have realized long before your original video. However, don't feel bad yet - one idiotic goof-up does not make you an idiot. TWO idiotic goof-ups or doubling down, THAT would make you an idiot. So don't make a second mistake like that.
The previous video with the mistaken information about the Dimensional Typhoon Second Chace has been taken down to prevent further misunderstanding. Again, sorry for the confusion.
ONly a T5 ship giveaway can wash this mistake up! :P
Again the way communication is done always seems to be broken or like a translation to to English like bad anime dubb/sub conflicts with two completely different meanings. Buyout is the key word that got missed out big time. Even casual Does RUclips videos stating the buyout for events is 2000 Zen as its in the articles as they are still being copy and pasted saying its 2000 and not 2500 when its been a long time since it was 2000 last by a couple of years. The Halloween page has since been corrected as was wrong but have now started fixing but still get statements like "this has been corrected to reflect the collect amount" at least they are updating the right amount of Zen has seriously annoyed many over last couple of years.
I was kind of hoping that it would have been a return/extension of the event as well...there's a couple members of my fleet that are kind of irritated with needing to spend to finish it. They got hit with the hurricane stuff combined with a few other things
@@AzraelThanatos True, that would have made sense as something to extend the event for.
@@TheOneTrueDragonKing Hell, I remember back when I was playing WoW, there was the horrible wind storm where I lived, they extended one of the events and even extended subscription durations for players in the area as a good will/publicity thing.
LotRO/DDO have both done the same kind of thing for a lot of stuff as well
Not an idiot, just a guess on limited information. Poor communication from DECA is at fault, not you.
☝️this!
I think we all wanted to hope that they would move in a less FOMO direction.
lol
So, where should we send the Ukulele for that FULL apology!
Yeah I only take my apologies with song and tiny instruments.
You didn't miscommunicate... the patch notes did. Their fault, not yours.
"But I don't own a ukelele."
I understood that reference.
It's okay. They were ambiguous to begin with. Cheers!
honestly, not surprised that they pulled it this way, gett everyone hopes up wwith making it sound like you get a second shot at grinding it out for those who missed by natural cases and such, then pull 180 at last second and go "actually what we ment to say was you get a second chance through your credit card cough cough" ..... honestly does not surprise me and ye your defo right they should have worded that one better. also dont beat yourself up mate cause i'm betting a massie chunk of people on here and other places probably thought the same thing.
Not your fault. Been watching your videos for the past few months now and have enjoyed/learned quite a bit from them, so thank you. Subbed!
You're not an idiot. I think you were just being hopeful. No where initially do I think it stated "buyout". It would've been a nice gesture but instead it is just modus operandi.
A re-run... would only make sense if the development cycle had a flaw and the next event wasn't ready.
@@marhawkman303 I disagree with the sentiment. (I think) Cryptic has done an extension if not a re-run of an event before when there had been a mass disruption in real-life.
@@chadwickmccarty4944 now that's just an extension though not a full re-run.
I had a feeling it was gonna be a buyout option. Theyve done it before, but they could of worded it better
We did have that glitch a few months ago where the Red Alert was extended even if we finished, that gave opportunities to get more dilithium
I think Kate Micucci has an apology song with ukulele . . .
I suspected with the phrase “Second Chance” involved, it meant the buyout. When it was that specifically instead of a something like “another opportunity”, it just made sense. But it certainly was ambiguous, and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it man.
Regarding the buyout option, I don’t know that I’d pick it up for the full $60. If and when it eventually ends up in Mudds, it’ll probably be like $40 on a 75% off sale. Granted, that’ll be in like 2 years if the game makes it that long, so there’s a cost of not having it for that period.
I haven’t even unpacked mine, so I guess I’m not really the guy to ask
This shows the difference between ego driven devs and people with a healthy amount of humility. You are will to own up to a mistake and apologize, while I cant remember any time where I have seen a game dev say oh we screwed up on this, our bad. I do agree with others that part of the fault is DECAs poor communication, which we have seen with there blogs that leave us guessing about things like traits and consoles.
You do good work and do not feel too bad about the mistake. We are all human and nobody is perfect, as my wife reminds me periodically.
You were being optimistic about the tweet. Nothing wrong with that. And it WOULD have been clear IF they had added the word buyout. Not sure who made the tweet, but I believe Kael mentioned leaving at the end of this month, so maybe that was still him.
But for me somehow the whole "second chance" thing immediately triggered my brain to add "buyout" to it. I've never even used it but the term "Second chance buyout" is just stuck in my brain.
Maybe because Cryptic has this shtick of taking away the buyout option at the end of an event so that people who missed out would ask why the buyout is missing and then (usually) with the following patch Cryptic could do their best Q impression and be like: "Pitiful mortals, you have missed your chance but we are merciful gods, so here is the "Second Chance Buyout" you have been clamoring for! Revel in our magnanimous splendor!"
You are providing a free service, no worries mate. Thanks for anything you do at all.
it happens. Yes it is a fun ship!
A lot of people were saying it was probably the buyout, but I didn't realize it hadn't been around either so I was 50/50 on it. They should've worded things better.
Not your fault man. Game devs are very good at not giving full details when they are needed.
Me too Stu, me too! I've had this game since it came to console, have purchased like 70 ships and still have mid damage output. I guess I'm stupid because I just can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Pretty sure it's cause of the dill that everyone would get cause they already did it u could max out ur alts with dill instead of finding a way around it and plus this was probably far easier to add back in game and they can collect more money
The tweet has a 50/50 chance here. Either Kael is doing his usual bangup job. Or, it is new Decca staff that does not know the ins and outs yet. Either could be correct.
I think everybody read it like you did, because that's how it was written.
Typographical errors and dotty headed moments of confusion are things that impacts most everyone - Deca Games included. Cryptic Studios had it's less than stellar moments, too - in case anyone remembers the numerous patches associated with STO's Romulan Legacy Expansion in May of 2013? 'Nuff said. #LLAP 🖖
What is a good ftp ground weapon? Are the rep borg omega ground things any good?
2:10-2:15 Typhoon Battlecruiser U.S.S. Spot
Don't beat yourself up for someone else's lack of proper communication skills. One thing I noticed with some, if not most, game devs, GMs and techs is that they lack the proper comms skills. Just look at some of the game instructions (not much in STO though) and NPC dialogues. They should get a good copy writer or comms moderator/admin.
BTW, I enjoy and appreciate your posts. Very helpful in-game. Cheers! Faril@christhomas
Mistakes happen, this makes us human
I wondered why SAB felt necessary to clarify so hard in his video haha. It's okay Stu it was an honest mistake and doesn't negatively impact anyone so don't beat yourself up about it
A mistake everyone could make second chance is only available uf you didn't finish the event and only ubtil the year long campaign is finished. If you take everything and beat the event same time it is active this option is permanently greyed out until bugs happen. So no worries the reason they didn't say buy ought because that's the phrase used for active events.
Anyone know which pulse phasers to use to best simulate the USS Reliant?
Dual Beam Banks fire from the phaser emitters on the rollbar. Normal Beam Arrays will fire from the emitters on the saucer.
Meanwhile console has been running red alert for like two weeks 😂. Got my second tech upgrade a few days ago
Communicating has not been a strong attribute for this game group. Nobody knows what they mean, not even the people that crafted the message.
You could use the old tokens on the ship. Got lucky bought the last week.
Eh no apology needed they worded it weardly a correction witch you have just done is sufficient to clarify in my opinion.
Absolutely not your fault that they have very limited communication skills.
Is it true that locations are unlocked after completing episodes?
Petition for Stu to buy and play a Ukulele :)
I think we all thought the same thing.
Just where IS this "community manager" DECA hired months ago? I hope he/she has not been training with Kael all this time.
Everyone makes mistakes.
My name's D, you're welcome for... for watching. That doesn't work. Man... Weed is supposed to make me funny and that sucked... Oh well. Wonderbro.
STO is a mess right now.
Not even sure any of it was worth the wasted words.. "You get a second chance to earn this beautiful garbage truck."
This is how you should start every video. ;D
You're not an idiot, and based on my experience here, in-game and on Reddit, you are far from alone. Sorry folks, the twitter post was clear enough. Yes, they could have added "buyout", and they have in the patch notes, but it really didn't say that they were rerunning the event. Please, please, STO YTers, raise your bar, read, reread, think, maybe even talk to an in-game friend about things before rushing out to be the first to make a video on it. There have been so many times I've been chatting to someone in-game who had very incorrect information but insisted it was gospel because they saw it on a [insert STO YTer name here] video, and it can be very difficult to get them back on track. People listen to you, and a lot of them don't like reading for themselves so they wait for your videos. Please, measure twice, cut once.
You are to hard on yourself they cant even admit when they nerf stuff clam its not nerfed !
i cant buy out anything because the dil market is totally broken lol be nice if people opened those stupid boxes that are intended to keep this games economy running..
So yeah, I'll be blunt: whenever they say "Second Chance" that's a buyout, not a repeat of the whole event. Always has been, always will be. And it's a 5-year-old system at least.
The Second Chance buyouts have been a thing since Reputation Events were retired back in Season 18, which was in 2019. Ever since then, whenever they say "Second Chance" it's always been a buyout, whether for Zen or for Lobi. Which means that system has been in place for five, almost six years now.
I hate to say it, but... Ya blew it, pal! You should have known it was a buyout! No excuses, no shifting the blame onto DECA or the devs. You should have realized long before your original video.
However, don't feel bad yet - one idiotic goof-up does not make you an idiot. TWO idiotic goof-ups or doubling down, THAT would make you an idiot.
So don't make a second mistake like that.
You're not an idiot bro. We were just straight up lied to