I mean, many people know about the stuff he talks about. There’s just a *TON* Of football history to document…. That’s what’s so beautiful about this game!
Unfortunately, Ben Arfa appeared to be a genius... but also a straight sociopath with severe emotional control issues. Nothing more complex than that...
Im tunisian one day I met him in tunis randomly on the stairs of a very humble building headding to a cousin appartment I guess I was shocked I shake his hands and he was very welcoming and humble was a very akward moment
Hatem was one of those players that just needed an arm around him and letting him know that he will be playing no matter what. Some managers are just stupid. The guy was a joy to watch. His time at Newcastle and Nice showed just how pivotal he could be to a team.
The talent was not the problem it was his ego and the environment ! Even Neymar praised Ben arfa calling him « the phenomenon » that’s coming from Neymar ! Not amount of coaching or play time could fixe his habits of creating fight ect in the dressing room
I doubt it was so simple. There would have been entire support teams trying to give him what he needed to succeed. I suspect he was a complex guy with complex problems.
Ok here is a quick fact Ben arfa is the best dribbler the game has ever seen. Well don't get best dribbler confused with best player. All goats Maradona ronaldo9 Zidane ronaldo7 messi etc are light years above of him in order of a complete player. But when it comes to pure ability to manipulate the ball in tight spaces this man is beyond everyone.
literally the only thing he ever asked to be treated with respect that he deserved. like do you need the best playier in the world? if yes, you make a team around him. just like they did with zlatan. if only i have been the manager for let's say, United, easy. United wins everything. but nooo they don't want one of the best at the time period.
@@ebenezermarboh5849Pogba made way more money than both and is a world champion I know he had the talent to do more but he did way better than Balotelli and Hatem But I would argue Pogba is more talented than Balotelli so it's normal to be winning More compared to Mario Hatem is more talented than both and arguably had a better career only compared to Mario And Mario despite being the least talented of the 3 he had Mancini coaching him and Mourinho winning the treble with him Mario had less talent compared to Pogba and Ben Arfa but he had the best luck with the opportunity to start with the right direction and guidance So Balotelli and Ben Arfa had a lot more advantages compared to Pogba early on in terms of talent and luck and environment to grow with the right mindset to be ballon d'or Pogba despite that advanced further than both of them Pogba career didn't have any problems etc Man United and even there he won the Europa League their last important trophy until today When returning to Juventus he was about to be back to a normal competent player but between injuries and doping scandal and some family dramas basically had zero chance to actually try this Juventus 2.0 chapter But that little moment before the injury he was looking decent and on his way to be a useful player for Juventus Pogba only failed in Manchester and still won for them their last big trophy and since Pogba Manchester is yet to prove that they can do it without him
well... i dunno, some get carried away with their "talent" but seeing his record carrying an ordinary team to achieve extra ordinary stuff, he's the real deal. Though somehow, most of his manager and teammates don't believe in him anyway, coupled with his short fuse it's easy to blow things up quickly. He's like CR7 but CR7 takes awhile for him to blow up. Casing point, his 2nd coming to Utd.
My favourite player I’ve ever watched play for Newcastle. Unreal talent. Only Ronaldinho is above him in that regard. I’m happy he chose our club to have his greatest moments. Forever a legend.
Hatem Ben Arfa was such a fantastic footballer to watch at that time and he shone with some of the respective footballing clubs and winning a battle against the billionaire with his real anger showed that he never be messed up,good friends!!!LONG LIVE,HATEM BEN ARFA!!!🏋️♂️
you're like that one particular guy in the group who always know the legends and have interesting takes on things when the group is hanging out. "sooo listen to this" and the group stops everything and listen.
He is in that echelon, excessively talented, just that Ben arfa in my opinion actually did fulfil his potential, he was, when on the ball, unparalleled, full sprint with the ball stuck too him weaving between 5 top level defenders in a competitive match is not something you see happen from someone who didnt live up to what was expected. Ravel and taraabt both had glimpses of brilliance, but Ben arfa had entire years of being clearly the best at what he did, he was just always forced to be at lesser clubs, teams that simply couldn't compete because of his altercations off the pitch. Everyone loved playing with him they just didn't like him as a person, so he was penalised.
@@kahlebhowarth-jennings9688 that seems fair tbh. and you mostly only hear ben arfa mentioned by lyon, nice, toon and marseille fans. he was his own worst enemy, complete lack of discipline. and he even had 4 or 5 youth clubs lol. he was a poohouse before he even signed a deal
One of my all time favourites!A true football artist,an old school dribbler. If he wasn't so boheme type of person,he could definitely won a balloon d'Or. But you know something,for that reason i personally like him. He plays for the people,he loves that seconds of doing the dribble and the crown goes nuts after that,Hatem live for that specific moments,that specific seconds of magic!
He reminds me of Ravel Morrison from Man Utd. The guy was from the same promotion as Pogba and Lingard. Everyone at the time said he was the bigger talent of the bunch. Sadly, his mental issues and his personal decisions turned him into a journeyman who did club hopping and never lived up to his potential.
Pogba and especially Lingaard wasn't even good. And of course as usual people overrate and overhyp man utd players. Morrison is rubbish. Didn't even play at highest level for one full season.
I can't shake the feeling Ben Arfa was one of the early examples we saw of what football later became. What it is today. Sort of like the first experiments that didn't go all to well. When football's foundations and traditions was ripped to pieces and 'modernised' if you will, by the people that early understood the potential football had economically - to make you rich basically.
Ben arfa was the best player I've seen in a Newcastle jersey ever.... best natural talent. He had everything, he wasn't a lightweight either, he could really hold defenders off, he had speed, his acceleration from a stand still is maybe the best ive ever seen on a footballer, he had skills, he could shoot, his crosses was on a plate for his teammates. Perhaps held the ball slightly too long at times, but he was phenomenal. If he really played ball and was a true professional, he would no doubt have been on cr7's level
“Trying to make some proud who wasn’t there”. Ngl I felt that one it’s so damn true. idk if this is a common idiom, though it’s a beautiful way of expressing it nonetheless the less.
Remember that horror tackle that should have ended Ben Arfa Career was a disgusting tackle. De Jong should have been banned!. So sad too see a player like that if he didn’t have all his mental issues and played for Real Madrid or PSG sooner he would have won the Ballon dor no doubt. Such a shame
This man is the perfect example of the importance of getting your inner demons in check. He would have been right up there with Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi if he would have done so. Sad story indeed
You can’t even call this inner demons the only reason people like him is because he was good at football. If he was a normal person everyone would just think he’s insane 😂
as a cr7 fan messi "is" the best dribbler and only other guy who can be compared in terms of dribbling is maradona,the stats clearly prove it,messi did it on the highest level playing in prime laliga against the best defenders in the world
@@bhargavsai8014Messi had a better career but in terms of dribble he’s not the best the most efficient yes the best no ! I argue Maradona was better same with Ronaldo nazario
he had the brains but as you heard he was at first manipulated then got a move to his dream club unknowing the manager didn't want him and then got benched unfairly... It's quite sad ngl happy for him getting back at them tho
He clearly didn’t have a good head on his shoulders especially when you compare him to 16 year old yamal or Bellingham vini guler Mbappé mainoo he had the talent but that’s all ! To make a good carreer you need maturity a thing he didn’t have even at 28
His problem is not the brains, it's the psyche There is a short french documentary about him that shows his time at the academy when he was a child And there was a part where the cameraman gets behind his teacher or school manager holding a school report and his grades of the different subjects were shown on camera, and i remember well they were mostly very good grades
This guy I wanted at Arsenal since I first laid eyes on football. He had best feet out of any on his day, other than Messi. He never settled at any club. He just couldn't stay fit & that means no consistency
Nasri, Ben Arfa, Gourcuff. The late 2000's and early 2010's the French had amazing talent, but excluding Gourcuff maybe, the emotions got the better of these players. Which is sad because if these players lived up to their talent, France would've been unstoppable.
I still remember Ben Arfa in 15/16 when he was at Nice
He was killing every defense
@@chanendlerbong yeh then psg snapped him up and ruined him again lol
"So Listen to this" is legendary
a classic line
Its a classic
You might get a bunch of likes for typing that , well done give yourself a pat on the back
@@christophergallagher3845 ty
@@Tzomthekliafafanboy what?? This isn’t the creator lol
It feels like This guy will never run out of crazy stories to talk about
Sure hope not!
I mean, many people know about the stuff he talks about. There’s just a *TON* Of football history to document…. That’s what’s so beautiful about this game!
Unfortunately, Ben Arfa appeared to be a genius... but also a straight sociopath with severe emotional control issues. Nothing more complex than that...
@@S0L12D3yea
Bro football is big
He is one of the TOP ‘Streets will never forget’ footballers.
Except so many already have, as he has been utterly irrelevant since around 2015
And you are - who?
That saying streets will never forget 😂 street’s have there own lifes
This guy seemed to run at max speed but the ball was still glued to his feet, insane talent from possibly clinically insane player
'clinically insane'... it's not 1810 bud.
@@mkf628 donkey
Im tunisian one day I met him in tunis randomly on the stairs of a very humble building headding to a cousin appartment I guess I was shocked I shake his hands and he was very welcoming and humble was a very akward moment
wow thats such a cool anecdote
Hatem was one of those players that just needed an arm around him and letting him know that he will be playing no matter what. Some managers are just stupid. The guy was a joy to watch. His time at Newcastle and Nice showed just how pivotal he could be to a team.
can you imagine if sir alex was able to be his coach? would definitely be up there with ronaldo
The talent was not the problem it was his ego and the environment ! Even Neymar praised Ben arfa calling him « the phenomenon » that’s coming from Neymar ! Not amount of coaching or play time could fixe his habits of creating fight ect in the dressing room
He had that at Nice and decided to leave...
He needed a father he needed love
I doubt it was so simple. There would have been entire support teams trying to give him what he needed to succeed. I suspect he was a complex guy with complex problems.
Die hard newcastle united fan. Ben arfa was absolute baller loved the man at the club such shame he didn't get show world his talent on big stage.
Very similar to Robert, with same problems and plus points
Ok here is a quick fact
Ben arfa is the best dribbler the game has ever seen.
Well don't get best dribbler confused with best player.
All goats Maradona ronaldo9 Zidane ronaldo7 messi etc are light years above of him in order of a complete player.
But when it comes to pure ability to manipulate the ball in tight spaces this man is beyond everyone.
Balotelli and Ben Arfa prime example that just talent is not enough to succeed you need to have a good head over the shoulder
literally the only thing he ever asked to be treated with respect that he deserved. like do you need the best playier in the world? if yes, you make a team around him. just like they did with zlatan. if only i have been the manager for let's say, United, easy. United wins everything. but nooo they don't want one of the best at the time period.
@@doublesalopetoimcre Youre tripping sit down
Pogba is worth considering to extend that list.
@@ebenezermarboh5849Pogba made way more money than both and is a world champion
I know he had the talent to do more but he did way better than Balotelli and Hatem
But I would argue Pogba is more talented than Balotelli so it's normal to be winning More compared to Mario Hatem is more talented than both and arguably had a better career only compared to Mario
And Mario despite being the least talented of the 3 he had Mancini coaching him and Mourinho winning the treble with him
Mario had less talent compared to Pogba and Ben Arfa but he had the best luck with the opportunity to start with the right direction and guidance
So Balotelli and Ben Arfa had a lot more advantages compared to Pogba early on in terms of talent and luck and environment to grow with the right mindset to be ballon d'or
Pogba despite that advanced further than both of them
Pogba career didn't have any problems etc Man United and even there he won the Europa League their last important trophy until today
When returning to Juventus he was about to be back to a normal competent player but between injuries and doping scandal and some family dramas basically had zero chance to actually try this Juventus 2.0 chapter
But that little moment before the injury he was looking decent and on his way to be a useful player for Juventus
Pogba only failed in Manchester and still won for them their last big trophy and since Pogba Manchester is yet to prove that they can do it without him
well... i dunno, some get carried away with their "talent" but seeing his record carrying an ordinary team to achieve extra ordinary stuff, he's the real deal. Though somehow, most of his manager and teammates don't believe in him anyway, coupled with his short fuse it's easy to blow things up quickly. He's like CR7 but CR7 takes awhile for him to blow up. Casing point, his 2nd coming to Utd.
I usually treat youtube videos as background noise but man you have a way of making me actually watch all of your videos. Love your work and passion!
My favourite player I’ve ever watched play for Newcastle. Unreal talent. Only Ronaldinho is above him in that regard. I’m happy he chose our club to have his greatest moments. Forever a legend.
Only Ronaldinho is above him in Talent? You need new eyes
Absolutely true !!
Ben Arfa earlier in his time at Newcastle was special
Ben arfa and cabaye are the reason i became a newcastle fan
Hatem Ben Arfa was such a fantastic footballer to watch at that time and he shone with some of the respective footballing clubs and winning a battle against the billionaire with his real anger showed that he never be messed up,good friends!!!LONG LIVE,HATEM BEN ARFA!!!🏋️♂️
Streets will never forget Ben Arfa 🔥
He is literally the Prime example of "Street would never forget" player. Along with JJ Okacha and Y Bolasie.
Ben Arfa is the epitome of a street baller, even without the actual football.
As a young Newcastle fan at the time this guy gave me lifelong memories, I can still feel the excitement I felt then watching him
agreed
I’m so glad he’s making a video about Atem Ben Arfa
As a Toon Fan I consider him a Newcastle Legend.. He'll always be remembered fondly..!!
Life is a box of ben arfa you never know what you gonnna get
He makes Balotelli seems like an angel
I wouold still sign balotelli and Ben arfa to my team any day of the week. Those 2 together would still be lethal lol
😂😂😂
Ben afra at Newcastle won’t be forgotten ❤️
you're like that one particular guy in the group who always know the legends and have interesting takes on things when the group is hanging out.
"sooo listen to this" and the group stops everything and listen.
The streets won't forget Ben Arfa
His talent was unreal. No one can deny that
True ! Talent is nothing if you don’t have the good mindset
my newcastle supporting friend still talks about hatem ben arfa to this day!
he sounds like the adel taarabt and ravell morrison crew 😂
He is in that echelon, excessively talented, just that Ben arfa in my opinion actually did fulfil his potential, he was, when on the ball, unparalleled, full sprint with the ball stuck too him weaving between 5 top level defenders in a competitive match is not something you see happen from someone who didnt live up to what was expected. Ravel and taraabt both had glimpses of brilliance, but Ben arfa had entire years of being clearly the best at what he did, he was just always forced to be at lesser clubs, teams that simply couldn't compete because of his altercations off the pitch. Everyone loved playing with him they just didn't like him as a person, so he was penalised.
@@kahlebhowarth-jennings9688 that seems fair tbh. and you mostly only hear ben arfa mentioned by lyon, nice, toon and marseille fans.
he was his own worst enemy, complete lack of discipline.
and he even had 4 or 5 youth clubs lol. he was a poohouse before he even signed a deal
Underrated player, love your vids
One of my all time favourites!A true football artist,an old school dribbler. If he wasn't so boheme type of person,he could definitely won a balloon d'Or. But you know something,for that reason i personally like him. He plays for the people,he loves that seconds of doing the dribble and the crown goes nuts after that,Hatem live for that specific moments,that specific seconds of magic!
HATEM BEN ARFA WAS UNBELIEVABLE.🔥.
Hi
3:15 under 16 is benzis favorite age group💀
XD
This brother got game on and off the pitch. My man
He reminds me of Ravel Morrison from Man Utd. The guy was from the same promotion as Pogba and Lingard. Everyone at the time said he was the bigger talent of the bunch. Sadly, his mental issues and his personal decisions turned him into a journeyman who did club hopping and never lived up to his potential.
Ben arfa was more of an baller than Morrison could ever be. Levels to this dribbling....
Pogba and especially Lingaard wasn't even good. And of course as usual people overrate and overhyp man utd players.
Morrison is rubbish. Didn't even play at highest level for one full season.
The streets won't forget this baller.
I can't shake the feeling Ben Arfa was one of the early examples we saw of what football later became. What it is today. Sort of like the first experiments that didn't go all to well.
When football's foundations and traditions was ripped to pieces and 'modernised' if you will, by the people that early understood the potential football had economically - to make you rich basically.
Ben arfa was the best player I've seen in a Newcastle jersey ever.... best natural talent. He had everything, he wasn't a lightweight either, he could really hold defenders off, he had speed, his acceleration from a stand still is maybe the best ive ever seen on a footballer, he had skills, he could shoot, his crosses was on a plate for his teammates. Perhaps held the ball slightly too long at times, but he was phenomenal. If he really played ball and was a true professional, he would no doubt have been on cr7's level
Damn bro! The way you tell these stories.... Great vid once again!
One of the most underrated players of our time! 🙌🏽
I supported new castle my entire youth because of ben arfa. There was no one as mesmerizing as him.
Dude your videos are next level . I love them , keep it up
“Trying to make some proud who wasn’t there”. Ngl I felt that one it’s so damn true. idk if this is a common idiom, though it’s a beautiful way of expressing it nonetheless the less.
My favourite football player 🇫🇷
Remember that horror tackle that should have ended Ben Arfa Career was a disgusting tackle. De Jong should have been banned!. So sad too see a player like that if he didn’t have all his mental issues and played for Real Madrid or PSG sooner he would have won the Ballon dor no doubt. Such a shame
Crazy thing was that was De Jongs second leg break in 6 months. First was Stuart Holden and the Ben Arfa
This man is the perfect example of the importance of getting your inner demons in check.
He would have been right up there with Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi if he would have done so. Sad story indeed
You can’t even call this inner demons the only reason people like him is because he was good at football. If he was a normal person everyone would just think he’s insane 😂
Some of the best footwork I’ve ever witnessed, rocket shot too
Similar temperament to Cantona
Ben Arfa at Marseille was a joy to watch in moments, I remember an amazing free kick against a dutch club in UEFA Cup I think
Legend
Ben Arfa and Cabaye at Newcastle
A joy to watch. I hated both of them playing against Liverpool FC those days
Its that i'll smoke u and bin this career attitude that mad him special "the streets will never forget"
"So listen to this"
Legendary 💯
I swear if Ben arfa had the right mentality he would be up there with Messi and Ronaldo he had amazing talent
The true Magpies will never forget our legend Hatem, the only Hope we have had during the Cockney Mafia era
cool he was good enough not to completely defeat himself. what a badass. hard growing up like that... cheers.
you are legend i love this videos evertime
I remember signing him on career mode. Bro was an absolute beast
"So Listen to this," is SO ICONIC
This is why sports therapists exist 🤦♂️
Please make a video on Filippo Inzaghi (month 6 of asking), his lack of skill and poaching instinct is legendary
Lack of skill? No bro, he's top class, underrated
@@johnkelly1386 lack of on the ball skill I mean, off the ball he's one of the greatest
His biggest strenght is his weak presence
@@kendyjapri1559 oxymoron. If it isn't his presence that allowed him to operate like a shadow in the box. Waiting for the perfect moment to strike
hands down for you man... respect🙌🙌🙌
A truly special player
great video mannn.
Ben Arfa was insane
the mercurial HBA. still in heart Toon Army 🏁🏁🏁🏁 ure Legend for us untill now.. we never forget u HBA
my favorite fifa players with taarabt
Fastest goal and player I have ever seen (I know y'all will think about Mbappé)
I truly thought messi was the best at dribbling until I watched this guy dribble, messi is a genius, but this guys dribbling is out of this world.
as a cr7 fan messi "is" the best dribbler and only other guy who can be compared in terms of dribbling is maradona,the stats clearly prove it,messi did it on the highest level playing in prime laliga against the best defenders in the world
@@bhargavsai8014Messi had a better career but in terms of dribble he’s not the best the most efficient yes the best no ! I argue Maradona was better same with Ronaldo nazario
GOAT.
LEGENDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
so much potential
Talent alone isnt enough, you also need the brains.
he had the brains but as you heard he was at first manipulated then got a move to his dream club unknowing the manager didn't want him and then got benched unfairly...
It's quite sad ngl happy for him getting back at them tho
Shame you had to make a generic statement with no talent and for brains there was never a fault of there being a one with you 😂
He clearly didn’t have a good head on his shoulders especially when you compare him to 16 year old yamal or Bellingham vini guler Mbappé mainoo he had the talent but that’s all ! To make a good carreer you need maturity a thing he didn’t have even at 28
@@ysbranddexcuse. He was stupid. It's simple.
His problem is not the brains, it's the psyche
There is a short french documentary about him that shows his time at the academy when he was a child
And there was a part where the cameraman gets behind his teacher or school manager holding a school report and his grades of the different subjects were shown on camera, and i remember well they were mostly very good grades
Ben Arfa 🥶🥶🥶
I remember him and Benzema at Lyon, both of them were absolutely insane. Just goes to show hard work beats talent every time smh.
Very nice video my friend
if ben arfa had a calmer head, he’d without a doubt be amongst the best players in history
In the hierarchy of *Streets Will Never Forget* footballers
Ben Arfa is number 1
The premier league Ronaldinho 👌🏾
In France he is still talk as the biggest what if with Gourcuff...
Juninho Pernambucano seria bom para um vídeo! Keep it going 🫡
Nice vid. You should make one for Neymars downfall (not that I like it just it's a story that needs to be heard)
he was my favourite player at Newcastle
What a legend
What a magician Hatem was. Them
The streets of Newcastle will never forget that before there was an Allan Saint-Maximin, there was THE Hatem Ben Arfa 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can take the guy out of the street but you will never take the street out of him...
great video
A very talented player indeed
Hatem Ben Arfa - french Messi
nha Tunisian Messi
do mats hummels next, underrated asf
"So listen to this, Cole palmer."
Ben Aaarfa-Ben Aaarfa!
Can you do a video on Larsson as he's such a underated player so it may make more people find out more about him
Generational talent
Was my fav player with Benzema at Lyon
So listen to this ❤
Beautiful story, the man who was smoother than leather
Legendary player
This guy I wanted at Arsenal since I first laid eyes on football. He had best feet out of any on his day, other than Messi. He never settled at any club. He just couldn't stay fit & that means no consistency
Ben Arfa deserved better
Nasri, Ben Arfa, Gourcuff. The late 2000's and early 2010's the French had amazing talent, but excluding Gourcuff maybe, the emotions got the better of these players. Which is sad because if these players lived up to their talent, France would've been unstoppable.
Thank you.