Westside Barbell | Dynamic bench press traning 2001
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- This is footage of a workout in Westside from Video power magazine. This was when Westside was at demorest. You will se Kenny Patterson, George Halbert and Rob Fusner in a speed bench workout. And obviously Louie simmons to explain it all.
How does he remember those numbers, lives and breathes his craft
He’s a stat guy
Ikr his passion for it gets me amped
Just answered your own question
Autistic! When I hear him talking sounds exactly like my autistic kid! He knows all the numbers and things about his craft !
Maybe they’re not correct . Lol
No one has ever mastered their craft like Louie did with powerlifting. It was his whole life.
Notice how there were no wraps designed for the wrist even back in 01. Those are knee wraps they have on their wrists. Little things we take for granted today.
Shit for pussys
@@heveyweightheveyweight5399 you must be new to the sport
I always use knee wraps for elbows and elbow wraps for wrists
No I've been lifting all my life with out them Id rather know I can complete the lift unassisted
@@joemfahey no he is the guy who has to let people know he is a real man.
that fellow kenny patterson is absolutely a joy to watch. cleanest bench execution ive ever seen. intimidating and basically an artist.
I agree with you 100% he had the perfect body type for benching short arms barrel chested dedication and hardwood. And having the greatest powerlifting coach in history in your ear helps to......
all these years later and he's still impressive. his setup on the bench is focused, his technique surgical. I mean, his tricep/delt is the size of a thigh. fucks sake!!! there are bodybuilders not as big in their arms as he.
Kenny Patterson is a pleasure to watch, his form is amazing.
Yeah, i wish it existed more fottage of him
Those tricep extentions off the floor really highlighted a weakness of mine. Doing them like that is HARD as FUCK, especially on those innerelbow muscles. Was extremely humbled and now excited to bring my lower inner triceps up. Let's go!!!!
Heaven IsHere7 “Inner elbow muscles”
It’s been two years. Give us an update man!
I had the privilege of watching Louie and his boys train at the old WSBB on Demorest Rd when the gym was open to the public. I learned so much by watching them and still use some of Louie’s techniques today. Kenny P had just started at WSBB and was still in HS when I was a member there.
The speed of that 315 bench is amazing
if this was in black and white, it'd be American History X
LMAO
Lol badass...
with Chronic 2001 playing in the background?nah cmon.
Its okay for whites to love their people as long as its not fueled by hate. Im black and Latin so I dont mind. Power to them. I see that pride with blacks and browns daily so 🤷🏾♂️
Westside Barbell-the strongest gym in the world,and Mr.Louie Simmons the weight lifting guru of the world!!!Had the pleasure to meet him and train at his gym in the Late 90's.Had to shout at my dude-Jerry O' he was a good buddy of Donnie and I!He had some stupid strong triceps-crazy!!!
Training way ahead of it’s time
Nop, just roids ... and equipment and reduced rom.
@@jotr.9786 Ok
@@jotr.9786 hop in there and train with em then
@@jimmiejay8174 why, you want me to take days of from heavy training?
@@jotr.9786 yeh that’s why they kept breaking records. Just dumb luck🤣. God forbid they trained with something that works imagine what they could achieve !!! Oh wait winning is the best you can do and they done that :/
thanks for posting these
These guys were way ahead of their time
Eh, most of it is crap unless you're doing equipped powerlifting. Bench presses with progressive load and straight bar path are only really useful when you have a bench shirt on that basically works like reverse bands and locks the bar path for you, you need to be strongest on the top 1/3 because that's when the shirt stops helping you and you've got to lift all the weight yourself.
I don't think anybody at Westside ever set any raw records. Even their equipped records are a bit dodgy, way too many high squats that would have got three red lights in more reputable federations.
Louie Simmons is very good at taking guys who are already very strong (he won't let you train at his gym otherwise) and making them set records at the SPF. Some of those people have left Westside and did things contrary to what Louie always told them to and made more progress than they had training there (for ex. Mark Bell). Make of that what you will.
@@BigUriel Thanks for all that info, Sergio. Very insightful...also very impressive that you know all this. You have a background in powerlifting?
@@roomforthefiiixins2491 Yes I have a background in staying well informed in strength training. Ad hominem attacks are an immediate giveaway that you have nothing valid to respond with.
All I've said you can easily verify yourself with 10 minutes of googling if you think I'm making it up. Louie has never taken an average guy and made him really strong. He doesn't let average guys train at his gym, he only allows people who are already elite lifters. It's actually a brilliant business plan when your goal is to boast that all the guys following your methods are elite lifters, fool proof really - just don't mention they were already that before they met you and you'll impress a lot of people. All the elite guys he's taken in have gone on to set impressive competition numbers...in specific federations that allow multiply gear, have no restrictions in grip/stance and very liberal with concepts like "parallel" and "pause". Watch a few SPF lift videos, then tell me what you think. None of this elite lifters have set any records in any raw federation or any federation that enforces the rules more strictly. So if look at the conditions his people compete his methods have been proven to be good at benching in tripple ply shirts (often without pause) and squatting with ultra wide sumo stance in a suit to a couple of inches above parallel. At everything else he doesn't really have much to show for, his guys aren't even particularly good deadlifters, because it's harder to bullshit a deadlift (in fact when you see a lifter "squat" 150lbs more than they deadlift that should raise all sorts of red flags right there).
You can also look around for how successful raw powerlifters train, and just about none of them train regularly with chains or bands, if ever. Including the people with all the raw world records. And maybe 2% of them use the conjugate method.
You can also read or watch inverviews with people formerly at WSB, like say Dave Tate, who really choose their words carefully not to say that Louie sometimes was just full of shit and too stuck in his ways for his own good, because they don't want to hurt "the legend" but that's the truth.
@@BigUriel Not sure how or why you took my comment offensively. I was legitimately impressed with your breadth of knowledge on the subject.
@@BigUriel You do realise Westside has records that predate multiply?
If you look at the Ben Johnson’s strength and condition coach (Charles Francis) he was using concurrent periodization with Ben to set world records in track. Ben Johnson stuck to a handful of basic strength exercises and varied his volume and intensity along side his sprints and plyometric training. Some of the philosophical ideas are the same: training all qualities simultaneously as to not lose and one quality and need to retrain or detrain. Reduce soreness and maximize training efficiency. They also employed box squats although in a different style more applicable to a sprinter with a closer stance and more anterior knee glide. Despite what so many cop cat coaches say and do the best of the best did not utilize extreme squats stances with the rock back technique. Ben Johnson was stronger than powerlifters. So talented he was beyond powerlifting as with most of the best athletes. They use their talents on the track and on the field.
@@davesmith3023 he's the one who got caught.
Zero hair follicles left on anyone’s head
KING KONG Haha of course they are
KING KONG you should start paying more attention, it is very common knowledge that louie embraces steroids
KING KONG - these guys are devoid of sarcasm lol
KING KONG Haha sorry. /Wooosh
Gymcells
this help me so much to watch video like this
I'm going to go lift a lil again because of it
Louie was fucking JACKED back then!
Anyone watching this, I started doing these tricep extensions but from a dead stop (see josh Bryant videos) and it dragged my bench from 365 to 405 in about 6 months.
George saying he was the worst bench presser in the world before Westside when he had a 475 in competition that a lot of people would dream to have is a testament to how much he felt he improved at WSB.
the 475 was a raw lift to boot! George is a strong dude!!
Louie kicking some tupac
Noticed that. I had Louie pegged as a sorta-kinda racist that kept it in. I never saw coloreds training with him and it is Ohio, so I figured, yeah, a slight touch of racist. Guess I was wrong. I hope.
@@theantracist prejudice
Your an idiot. RaYsICT CAUse hE nO tRaIN wiTh blaRcks
theantracist he's trained with many black track athletes before. He's not racist, geared powerlifting is 90% white as well as what black man would want to go to a hardcore secluded gym in Ohio full of a bunch of what look to be like jacked bikers? Louie is happy to help ANYONE who loves the sport.
coloreds? is this 1951?
and just bc you play tupac or warren g doesnt mean youre NOT racist. thats some funny shit.
but these guys look like theyre all about your bench.
You literally had to try out for this gym.
Nothing on Andrew Collura 650lbs raw bench. Cat man is a freak
CM damn right
Definitely not a cookie cutter
650 raw! No belt, no wraps, on his tippy toes and in a t-shirt. All hail king Collura meow man
@@Joeonline26 what do you think about that DALLLEEEE
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT LOUIE!?!?!?!
Very cool. Appreciate you posting this
Louie trying to talk over a speed set with bands and chains is Sick AF!
He didn’t choose powerlifting, powerlifting chose him
The bad guys!! Westside rules!
Grettings from Lima, Perú
once i asked in an online powerlifting forum "what's the most you've ever dumbbell pressed?" and let me tell you, people in that forum went absolutely ballistic. they were triggered beyond belief by this question. it was so weird. all the elite powerlifters i see on youtube do some sort of dumbbell work. most of the successful powerlifters would probably answer the question with "well my gym only has 150s". to this day i still don't understand the rage that question produced.
A legend. R.I.P.
Man....these guys are so freaking strong
This is my kind of gym. Sad these only exist at home. Society is full of planet fitnesses
I'd buy you a 6 pack for that comment. This life sucks now.
Mark Rippatoe, that's that Louie Simmons shit!
Louis is primo with the liftoff!
I can't even move 225 that fast. I got some work to do once the gyms reopen
Building size is crucial to getting a big bench. Build your whole upper body. And follow a program and slowly progress
@@alexwilliams5587 finally did 225 for 10 reps last weekend
@@russellmuscle7434 Thats sick bro
@@alexwilliams5587 but Tonight 185 feels heavy lol, off night
@@russellmuscle7434 Damn bro. Since you left this comment i have been training. I went from a 40kg bench to 75kg in 3 months. Only 14. We are in this together bro
Best Buy for the money 2-5 -52.5 pounds work great!!! I like because it’s way cheaper then sets of dumbbells also takes up little space . Got the bench boflex bench as well for about 160 love them both together.
Are those lying tricep extensions at 11:30 a form of pullover also? Looks interesting!
They are called Rolling Dumbell extensions
On his speed video they also do them off of a bench both flat And decline.
Dan Ski dumbbell rollback
Louie was huge back then
The juice.
The famous purple windows!
Love west side videos
How fast does he go through the numbers. He was like a machine.
I'm gonna try that tricep excerise , I just hope it doesn't land on my head.
If your goal is to increase your bench, those extensions are a great exercise. Also , on an incline bench hold DB at the top and lower to the opposite pec , it works the inner head of triceps
St the end Louie said Maine! I'm from Maine and I'll tell you .... there are so.e very strong g powerlifters from Maine .
Powerlifting engineer he was
Imagine these guy watching john haack doing 360/260/410 at 100kg.
man george spoke and looked like such a normal guy, other westsiders looks like some weird mutants next to him hahah
11:43 never tried these but do they bother your elbows at all? they look like they would
Late reply, but if I were you I would start off fairly light just to get the technique down. I would do a lot of low resistance high repetition band work to increase you tendon strength before you start attacking those heavier weights. Your muscles might be strong enough, but your tendons grow at a slower rate than your muscles. I learned this the hard way
The GOAT
That 2pac in the background? 1997 was great
2pac in the back 🔥🔥🔥🔥
God damn Kenny using 100s on those rollbacks?
Kenny’s a beast!!!!
Does the rep amount differ?
differ for what?
110 lb tricep rollbacks holy fucking shit
Bänke med bälte, Fördelar? Eller bara en smaksak?
Smaksak vad jag har hört
100% Cool Louie Louie
Nice and loud video . Cant find that on a youtube original upload. Vhs to youtube . Thats the peace
there's no way this is 01. The music and camera quality seems a bit too early. looks 1990s.
97ish
Minute 12:00 He put 500 lbs on his bench.
I have to eat a cheeseburger with 2 energy drinks to stay over 225 LOL
Alpha Destiny
11:30 triceps roll-backs
Love the random middle aged couple ha ha
110 pound tricep extensions is just ridiculous
Tupac in background!! 😉
My shoulder hurts just watching
Louie only cared about strength. Nothing else mattered
Träning*
Not criticizing, but aren't these bar speeds WAY too slow for dynamic day? Feel like they've got way too much weight on the bar- take a look at Matt wennings speed bench video, hes a 600lb raw bencher and uses only 185lb on the bar for speed day, not 275 + doubled bands AND chains. Matt also moves the bar about twice as fast as any of these guys. Something ain't right here
I'm guessing the required intensity for bench at this stage in their cycle is super high. They probably also work with less weights later on
Matt goes up to like 335?
I think they use higher% ( may be 40+?) Matt wenning uses 30%. And i guess dynamic effort were in development during that time compare to now.
@@ThomaConjugate exactly they were still experimenting from what i understand
Remember these guys were in tons of gear back on the day .
I'm confused, isn't dynamic day around 40-60% of your max and should be a really fast explosive movement. Matt wenning explained it and showed it well. These look like medium speed triples. 🤔
i believe is dynamic because of the bands pulling down for acceleration.
i think even the west side guys lowered their training weight over time realizing it was too heavy
@@dylprez They did. Though also worth considering that this era of Westside arguably had the best brute strength.
Dynamic training means using bands and chains? Im not being sarcastic... I just want more training knowledge!!!!! Fuuuuck!! Yeaaahh!!!
Speed, the bands and chains allow you to get the maximal weight feel, without having to increase the weight
Why bands AND chain? Chains get lighter at the top and heavier at the bottom, bands the other way around. Isn't it counterproductive? Real question, no sarcasm!
Chains are actually heavier at the top, since there’s more chain off the ground. I can see why you’re confused though, took me a while as well!
The bands are for dynamic tension, if you only use chains it does get heavier at lockout BUT your body still slows down at about 3/4 , the bands keep tension throughout the lift so you never can relax as you approach lock-out . Re watch the video, Louie explains it better than I just did
@@j.sarnak1391 Thanks for the explanation! 🙏
@@Bourbosaurus 😂😂😂
The bands are for speed, ultimately
Louis always trains for strength and speed
"The faster down, the faster up"
He needs to do a video with CT Fletcher.
No
@@rejsingbil yes
Why? That dude has no clue what he's talking about
@@merces47letifer4 are you stupid
Chains alone are worthless and achieve nothing. Now bands OR weights hanging from chains and having to balance them while on a barbell that’s an entirely different story.
They are doing so many sets. They’ll be sore for a week
No they’re not maximal
if you get sore from 9 triples at like 60% of your 1RM you got issues
" world record"
Lol
Back when this was recorded westside was king
And how many of these juicers are still lifting in 2020?
Being this video was made 19 years ago, and everyone looks the aged between late 20s, early 30s....I'd say yes. But not competing.
kingschnitz they're all still much stronger than you pussy, even Louie at 70 is stronger than you. I saw chuck still pulling 600 with 200+ band tension just a couple months ago he's nearly 50
1of5
Did I hit a nerve?
Needles do that from time to time
They were hardcore at Westide they weren't lifting for health
kingschnitz did you just refer to yourself as a needle 😂
WITH HIS SHORT ARMS IT DOSEN'T TAKE MUCH TO LIFT
Genetically blessed
@@YeetYeet-vk6reshort arms isn’t a blessing lol