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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Год назад +1016

    Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/MGpatreon Schools should include trans conversation in Sex Ed -> Agree or Disagree?

  • @boop99
    @boop99 Год назад +32162

    "Do not interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking" Says the person who interrupted everyone else and was always condescending

    • @gunther3274
      @gunther3274 Год назад +1087

      Talking about privilege 🙄

    • @en2p187
      @en2p187 Год назад +487

      Also guys check her history, cnn city hall black transwoman coach blossom interrupts mom and body checks her son in passionate intense speech- that's the title I ain't making it up

    • @claff4573
      @claff4573 Год назад +116

      Well ironically her and blaire were speaking for years 💀. She was making sense in the very beginning then spiraled.

    • @Fortheloveoforthodoxing
      @Fortheloveoforthodoxing Год назад +292

      The entitlement is INSANE

    • @boop99
      @boop99 Год назад

      I found the video under the title "Transgender woman makes passionate point at CNN Equality Town Hall." Blossom was certainly annoying but I didn't see anybody body check the kid in the video@@en2p187

  • @hannahloumen2241
    @hannahloumen2241 Год назад +11090

    Rule number one: If you want to be respected, show respect to other people.

    • @dolfincetekege6108
      @dolfincetekege6108 Год назад +13

      It is not possible.

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Год назад +1

      The problem is, both Blossom and Alexander's definition of respect is messed up, it doesn't align with reality, and when we speak facts, it comes out as rude and disrespectful, but fact should be spoken openly.
      Liberals are re-inventing and re-define words to make it meaningless. What is a woman anyway? Anyone who identify as a woman? Ah yes the floor is made of floor

    • @schiffer2386
      @schiffer2386 Год назад +53

      Some people don't show you respect even when you respect them. If they don't respect you, don't show respect back

    • @frickfrack7075
      @frickfrack7075 Год назад +12

      ​@@schiffer2386that was OPs point...

    • @schiffer2386
      @schiffer2386 Год назад +3

      @@frickfrack7075 not really cause that doesn't always work

  • @dararupert7199
    @dararupert7199 Год назад +14318

    The fact they wouldn't let Sara speak for so long during the military discussion was unacceptable. She had the actual experience.

    • @CassieBear1989
      @CassieBear1989 Год назад +1316

      I liked how Blair stopped and said that Sara should've talked first about the military debate bc of her experience in the military

    • @DocBree13
      @DocBree13 Год назад +77

      I agree!

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Год назад +130

      She is also smart

    • @brians1793
      @brians1793 Год назад +182

      That's probably why they didn't want her to speak on it.

    • @beatriceyup8541
      @beatriceyup8541 Год назад +137

      So frustrating that they won't let her speak. Someone who was in the military.

  • @jrod2145
    @jrod2145 2 месяца назад +1395

    Never bring blossom back under any circumstance.

    • @lilmisslunatick1529
      @lilmisslunatick1529 Месяц назад

      Pleaseeeeee she’s insufferable

    • @itsonlyme3704
      @itsonlyme3704 29 дней назад

      Ahhh the only black person on the panel , you don’t want them back? Okkaaay

    • @sawyerhaislet8731
      @sawyerhaislet8731 26 дней назад

      Well, I’m pretty sure they did multiple times under trans versus X trans

    • @literallybea
      @literallybea 24 дня назад

      literally!!!!

    • @isabelerhart9523
      @isabelerhart9523 18 дней назад

      Absolutely! She's so awful

  • @starannfilms
    @starannfilms Год назад +30381

    Blossom thinks people treat her badly because of her skin color, honey it’s YOU. It’s your personality.

  • @ijustwannabehappier-v4973
    @ijustwannabehappier-v4973 Год назад +28297

    As a black person im so embarrassed by Blossom bringing up the race card out of nowhere, and accusing everyone of white privilege.

    • @Mysteriuminiquitatis1998
      @Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 Год назад +1956

      Don’t be embarrassed. Just because one black person does something does not mean it represents us all. Blossom is not my representative nor are they yours. We as individuals represent ourselves

    • @halo218813
      @halo218813 Год назад +382

      @@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 so very well said ❤

    • @cashcorleone2469
      @cashcorleone2469 Год назад +536

      I was embarrassed the 1st 5 times... after that I was just annoyed 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @moldbrain660
      @moldbrain660 Год назад +282

      She really is making her community’s look like crap

    • @joshcagle2395
      @joshcagle2395 Год назад +330

      You shouldn't be embarrassed. Blossom doesn't speak for you or all black people. She's out for herself.

  • @liaf525
    @liaf525 Год назад +17334

    Awh… I cried at “I choose to use the men’s room to protect women.” The sadness in her voice when she says she knows she doesn’t pass. Protect her at all costs.

    • @NotAdultingToday
      @NotAdultingToday Год назад +2323

      To me jessica does pass. Sarah too! There are women who look like that. The non binary dude I absolutely do not want in the women's bathroom. Home is a cross dresser plain and simple.

    • @radubradu
      @radubradu Год назад +138

      *him

    • @Seevawonderloaf
      @Seevawonderloaf Год назад +1204

      She may not pass but bc her attitude gives me ‘this is a woman’ vibes!! And i generally wouldn’t mind sharing a space with someone who is considerate of her bio female counterparts. THESE are the people i went to protests to support

    • @Seevawonderloaf
      @Seevawonderloaf Год назад +446

      @@radubraduplease don’t

    • @fritziearago9518
      @fritziearago9518 Год назад +439

      If the ''non-binary'' one enter the restroom with me with my little niece here in my hometown , i will definitely walk out. I will be really rude and confront him

  • @nkycardcollector
    @nkycardcollector 3 месяца назад +648

    Of all the topics, why did they not cover trans people and sports?

    • @MrMissplaced
      @MrMissplaced 2 месяца назад +39

      I know right? it's on e of the hot topics I wanted them to talk about

    • @yamahaukiah9190
      @yamahaukiah9190 2 месяца назад +7

      Hmmm exactly but I guess the bathroom topic covered that..they need to do another one but this time add more tans POC

    • @davidmj54
      @davidmj54 Месяц назад

      Obvious but excellent question. Trans people are great and deserve support, but Trans activist are anti female which I am against.
      Trans activist cannot allow any female only spaces like sports.

    • @AmethystEyes
      @AmethystEyes Месяц назад +3

      I know there is extra content on Patreon.

    • @handle-h5m
      @handle-h5m Месяц назад

      Because then they would need a bunch of men pretending to be women.

  • @DaVinci-wt6dp
    @DaVinci-wt6dp Год назад +19256

    As a liberal, this was definitely embarrassing for the trans liberals. Ya'll literally said nothing persuasive, it was all just subjective, personal arguments or just straight up incoherent.

    • @Avo_o
      @Avo_o Год назад +1007

      Sameee. It was more personal attacks than actual personal stories.

    • @meg_khaaan2743
      @meg_khaaan2743 Год назад +847

      It would have been waaay more embarrassing if they hadn’t edited out much of the threats and screaming.

    • @Princessanafpd
      @Princessanafpd Год назад +418

      Yesssss, especially the on in black with glasses that looked down at all times lol every time he spoke in that raspy voice he tried to sound smart but all those big words meant nothing together 😅

    • @We_Are_The_Media
      @We_Are_The_Media Год назад +362

      But this is how they’ve always been lol this is why most normal people despise the liberal LGBTQ movement. They don’t have a problem with conservative trans people like Blair white though.

    • @fartmnms
      @fartmnms Год назад +52

      ​@@PrincessanafpdShane I think is his name, true but I do think he has a point. Top surgery for 16+ year olds should be ok. I mean you can learn to drive at 16 so why not be able to remove your breast if you believe it will damage your body.
      There are plenty of other ways to feed a baby were they to have a child

  • @jerryligairi1078
    @jerryligairi1078 Год назад +6501

    Trying to argue over the veteran trans woman about trans people in the military is HILARIOUS

    • @zkart8038
      @zkart8038 Год назад +174

      That too by someone who also never transitioned.

    • @streamingservices2469
      @streamingservices2469 Год назад +1

      That’s what I’m saying. 😂😂😂Props to Sasha also for being willing to listen to the conservatives great points, unlike his shitty team of idiots

    • @mrunknown7710
      @mrunknown7710 11 месяцев назад +12

      😂😂

    • @BizQAC
      @BizQAC 8 месяцев назад

      Like the trans women that argue with women about being a woman. The entire identity for some is based on delusion.

    • @AidenJamesP
      @AidenJamesP 7 месяцев назад +28

      As someone in the military that transitioned in the military, Sara was completely misrepresenting what it’s like to be in the military.

  • @del7920
    @del7920 Год назад +15054

    How dare you cut out the part where Blossom is screaming at Blair White with the director not letting Blair defend herself? She keeps screaming over and over again about Blair’s “whiteness” being an attack on Blossom’s blackness. That’s disgusting Jubilee. Shame on you.

    • @Deletedspidey1999
      @Deletedspidey1999 Год назад +222

      They showed this in the patreon cut?

    • @e11anora
      @e11anora Год назад +111

      where can you find the uncut bit?

    • @jannahnas
      @jannahnas Год назад +906

      ​@@Deletedspidey1999blaire talked about it on her channel

    • @elenabob4953
      @elenabob4953 Год назад +1616

      I don't care olif Blair talked about it on their own channel, the fact that Jubilee cut this part to defend the other side had NO EXCUSE.
      If they react like this in public when filmed, how I can feel safe with them in our spaces?

    • @VeroLaRemix
      @VeroLaRemix Год назад +895

      ​@Deletedspidey1999 there are plenty of people who cannot afford to see the unedited cut. It's pretty disgusting that a company that is liberal that wants to acknowledge its privileges is using a pay platform to protect someone's vile behavior.

  • @TulsiVilas
    @TulsiVilas 2 месяца назад +87

    The takes from the "conservative trans" side, literally ARE the middle ground. The responses you'd get from many true conservatives out there would be so much worse...

    • @danka1167
      @danka1167 2 месяца назад +20

      A trans conservative is inherently going to be socially centre. The majority of people are

  • @mayamartinez5805
    @mayamartinez5805 Год назад +44565

    You can tell who is here to talk about the safety of the trans community and who is here for the safety of their feelings.

  • @hannahpeden4264
    @hannahpeden4264 Год назад +20023

    I literally hate that Blossom can interrupt anyone but no one can interrupt her

    • @keri1364
      @keri1364 Год назад +1092

      And the “moderators” let it happen. I actually couldn’t finish this garbage “debate”

    • @Jeskers18
      @Jeskers18 Год назад +706

      You mean him. He does not give off any feminine energy

    • @GypsyInTheHood
      @GypsyInTheHood Год назад +402

      Total narcissist

    • @GirlBehindACamera
      @GirlBehindACamera Год назад +451

      I wouldn't feel comfortable with "blossom" using the female bathroom.

    • @HelloKitty55726
      @HelloKitty55726 Год назад +321

      She’s Black !!! Let her speak !!! She’s so oppressed she went to the White House !!! Can’t u see ??

  • @stuff1784
    @stuff1784 Год назад +14047

    When Blossom can’t win the victimhood argument based on “I’m trans” she goes into the “I’m black” argument.

    • @dannyhilarious
      @dannyhilarious Год назад +621

      From trans-baiting to race-baiting within seconds.

    • @robnzoekravitson
      @robnzoekravitson Год назад +414

      Blossom being trans and black, automatically, makes anyone who talks to her privileged and therefore she has struggled a billion times more than anyone in the entire existence of time and space.

    • @treehouse8501
      @treehouse8501 Год назад +117

      we call her fart blossom

    • @Mana_Bunz
      @Mana_Bunz Год назад +140

      This is typical of her interviews. It's ok to share the experience, but when your whole conversation boils down to that point every time, it's redundant and seems off-focus.

    • @robnzoekravitson
      @robnzoekravitson Год назад +72

      @@Mana_Bunz The sad part is Blossom probably went through struggle.
      Her constantly bringing it up, devalues those difficulties and invalidates the strength it probably took to be where she is today.

  • @Abbyjustine
    @Abbyjustine 2 месяца назад +104

    Sara and Jessica seem like such sweethearts

  • @weebofakind2516
    @weebofakind2516 Год назад +50062

    As a black person I can say that blossom isn’t treated bad bc of her race or bc she’s trans. ITS YOUR PERSONALITY GURL😂

    • @georginacook1850
      @georginacook1850 Год назад +3023

      She’s so entitled and is a bully

    • @snakeladytarot
      @snakeladytarot Год назад

      So true. U can tell who became trans and who is trans... Blossom just a play ground bully with boobs. U would rather bully women out our safe spaces than fight your own battles in ur own bathroom.

    • @MsRahfe
      @MsRahfe Год назад +1211

      wasn't she already in the last video and a lot of comments found her to be quite annoying? :X why was she invited again?

    • @nashocheese
      @nashocheese Год назад +976

      I mean... at 1:19:40 when she's straight up ignoring the entire point of the issue to talk about Black people - and that people need to understand that's where she's coming from... that wasn't the issue being talked about, so why self insert so heavily into it...?
      Hyprocrisy, rudeness, and ignorance is a pretty darn bad cocktail of personality traits.

    • @luluc6867
      @luluc6867 Год назад +177

      FACTS 🤣😂

  • @calvin624
    @calvin624 Год назад +10014

    Using your race as an excuse to be a belligerent narcissist is a new low. She should transition into being a better person.

  • @Rendoku25
    @Rendoku25 Год назад +7359

    Jubilee needs to hire some actual neutral mediators for these debates. They way they go now, especially this one, is NOT a debate. It’s bullying and incredible rude.

    • @IgonDrakeWarrior
      @IgonDrakeWarrior Год назад +281

      I agree. Shouting and insult matches dont get us no where. They should definitely start doing this

    • @Ego_death19
      @Ego_death19 Год назад +151

      they need to hire someone else to edit these....

    • @Sabrinatw
      @Sabrinatw Год назад +226

      Lol they also need to hire real editors. They don’t cut things out from the truth. They also need to hire real therapist to get some of these people help that they desperately need. Also security to take care of the cowards that threatened to cause physical harm to the other guest.

    • @carla.c
      @carla.c Год назад +126

      I would like for people to actually finish their points before another person starts talking. So annoying.

    • @Sabrinatw
      @Sabrinatw Год назад +2

      @@carla.c exactly, but unfortunately woke people don’t have respect or common sense. They always have to argue if someone disagrees and have to physically or mentally harm someone.

  • @Serenachilliams
    @Serenachilliams 2 месяца назад +287

    Dropping out of high school at 16 shouldn’t be compared to minors getting surgery because you can always go back and get a diploma and go to college. You can’t take back permanent surgery.

    • @mo_tarded64
      @mo_tarded64 Месяц назад

      Agreed. That was a dopey comparison.

    • @handle-h5m
      @handle-h5m Месяц назад

      Tomato, Tomato.
      Castration, .... Castration.
      You cannot ask for logic from a person who claims that men can magically bercome women or that women can magically become men.

    • @lauren-ls5us
      @lauren-ls5us 28 дней назад

      this is so so correct. thank you

    • @zacidks
      @zacidks 26 дней назад

      can minors even get gender surgery

    • @randcm22
      @randcm22 25 дней назад

      Exactly. You can go to school later. You can't reverse the surgery.

  • @patryapg
    @patryapg Год назад +2128

    How can you allow these people to be so disrespectful?

  • @bokangphelane
    @bokangphelane Год назад +7621

    As a black person i really cringe when black people use race to excuse their bad behaviour and double standards. "Don't interrupt a black trans woman" but she's been interrupting everyone

    • @An3moLexi
      @An3moLexi Год назад +82

      factsss me too

    • @yonce2347
      @yonce2347 Год назад +136

      aS a BlAck peRsoN, I cringe when a "black" person need to specify their race to say something about black people.

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Год назад +234

      @@yonce2347 I don’t, because a lot of these lunatics will jump on you if you’re not black speaking about a black issue.

    • @hinachan70
      @hinachan70 Год назад +83

      ​@@yonce2347People will then question if you're black, as in "allowed" to speak about the issue, if you don't state your race on certain topics. Why? Because first of all I'm behind a keyboard so you can't see my skin color. Second, we shouldn't even be asking race but here we are. Read the room, friend. Look at how people behave before you complain about precautions that have to be taken to avoid a heated argument.

    • @yonce2347
      @yonce2347 Год назад +14

      @@hinachan70 If you don’t feel like it’s to okay to say something if you were white, why do you think it’s okay to say it if you’re black? Is that not Blossom’s issue? It ends up making you sound even more pathetic, especially to black people.

  • @emmam8261
    @emmam8261 3 месяца назад +168

    Alexander and Blossom being the mean girls all throughout this video 🙄

    • @amb8814
      @amb8814 2 месяца назад +12

      So annoying!!

    • @AdrianMoore-l7v
      @AdrianMoore-l7v Месяц назад

      Alexander's not a girl 🌝

    • @arpc0027
      @arpc0027 Месяц назад +10

      Alexander looked ridiculous with that hat and beard. He's asking to be harmed because some people just don't care or are crazy to take offense at his appearance.

    • @handle-h5m
      @handle-h5m Месяц назад

      Mean men, they are both men.

    • @xaaysh
      @xaaysh 19 дней назад

      ​@@arpc0027Why would he ask to be harmed? Why would you insult him about his appereance?

  • @NineEyes97
    @NineEyes97 Год назад +7387

    Crazy how Blossom wants trans people to be safe but thinks it’s ok to openly threaten Blair with violence, “the bodyguards are outside, keep it real cute”, in a debate.

    • @heidinguyenphuoc7911
      @heidinguyenphuoc7911 Год назад +715

      its also funny bc blossom said that she didnt threaten blaire (on her ig) and im like.....more than a million ppl heard u said that u had bodyguards waiting outside for her...like....is she fr

    • @johnsmith-dx2ql
      @johnsmith-dx2ql Год назад +312

      very lady like behavior

    • @cultytalk
      @cultytalk Год назад +121

      A FULL RIDE thru Med School - Vocabulary, Mentality & Attitude of a 5th grade BULLY 👎👎👎 SAD & disturbing to watch!! PLEASE tell me she is not an actual physician that works with PEOPLE! 🙏

    • @Viewable11
      @Viewable11 Год назад +49

      This happened at 29:30

    • @lependu403
      @lependu403 Год назад +81

      ​@@heidinguyenphuoc7911 I think she was talking about Blaire's friend she brought being her bodyguard, but I think he just came to be supportive. He wasnt being paid to protect her or anything.
      Regardless, Blossom was implying violence when she mentioned the body guard - like he was the only reason she wasn't going to get violent.

  • @NormanFRockwellontop
    @NormanFRockwellontop Год назад +4137

    I have so much respect for Jessica. Her saying "I don’t pass" hurt me for her. She’s so compassionate and so self aware and I wish her the best.

    • @dianaselnekovicova948
      @dianaselnekovicova948 Год назад +245

      To be honest all of them pass visually except from that non binary person

    • @alby7223
      @alby7223 Год назад

      nonbinary people don't have to 'pass' in any binary direction, einstein. They are literally not on either side of the binary @@dianaselnekovicova948

    • @sanityshorror
      @sanityshorror Год назад +148

      Jessica absolutely does pass, I wouldn't have guessed she's trans unless I'd already known. Some afab/xx people are born with very masculine features, look at Shane for example.

    • @broforcefreedom4936
      @broforcefreedom4936 Год назад +45

      @@dianaselnekovicova948not blossom with how aggressive they were

    • @soniaess28
      @soniaess28 Год назад +35

      ​@@sanityshorrordon't be ridiculous. None of the men pass.

  • @chu9573
    @chu9573 Год назад +5880

    For someone who hates being interrupted, Blossom sure does love to talk over people. Loudly at that.

  • @Jaxxie1981
    @Jaxxie1981 2 месяца назад +393

    Being transgender is tied to the condition of gender dysphoria. Being non-binary, gender fluid, gender queer doesn't fall under the umbrella of "transgender". Choosing to have a quirky sense of style and play around with gender stereotypes within that realm is just that - a choice.

    • @oliphaniakush6554
      @oliphaniakush6554 2 месяца назад +48

      100% facts. It’s so ridiculous that Alex was so upset and had so much eager to use the title “Transgender” when they don’t even identify with the word “gender”.

    • @sophiep3642
      @sophiep3642 2 месяца назад +27

      the things you all are saying about nonbinary people is literally what cis people are saying about the trans community. and your point makes no sense because non binary people DO experience dysphoria.

    • @DivinityinLove
      @DivinityinLove 2 месяца назад +7

      Non-binary is a choice just as much as being trans. The thing is a lot of transitioned people actually consider anybody non-cis to be under the trans-umbrella. I fully agree with Blaire that it isn't the same because non-binary people do not have the same experience as transitioning people but I think the convo regarding bathrooms was still relevant to non-binary people like the guy dressed up all feminine and it was a fair point so Blaire was too quick to dismiss it just cause she's triggered and I get she's frustrated if she doesn't appreciate the inclusion and cross over of non-binary and transitioned folks but Jubilee invited that non-binary person to participate so she should at least respect Jubilee and let them have their say regardless. I like Blaire a lot and consider her super reasonable and a charismatic personality with strong mind but also a bit too quick to snap at times.

    • @Soredli
      @Soredli 2 месяца назад

      ​@@sophiep3642um what dysphoria? what are non binary genitals that they experience? What are non binary gender roles? Nope they dont exist

    • @iyacat123
      @iyacat123 2 месяца назад

      How can a non-binary be a trans? It doesn't make sense...😅

  • @futilerecordings
    @futilerecordings Год назад +1184

    Blossom is a proven liar! Amala Ekpunobi showed the text messages from when she allegedly "blindsided" her by having Buck Angel debate her on her show. Turns out Blossom was well aware Buck was gonna be there. On top of that, she accused Buck (without evidence) of calling a black woman a monkey, which Buck Vehemently denied. She is a horrible person. I mean... HORRIBLE!

    • @user-ij3yf7nr4q
      @user-ij3yf7nr4q Год назад +43

      Oh. Didn't know about that. Thank you for the information :-)

    • @titanblade3706
      @titanblade3706 Год назад +92

      When Buck asked for receipts and asked the panel to search for the video Blossom was talking about, Blossom had to hurry up and say “allegedly” even though she was outright accusing Buck of being racist. She never apologized either. Terrible

    • @JMBBrasil
      @JMBBrasil Год назад +26

      Yes! Horrible! And I’m gonna say it, not really trans! That’s a narcissistic men in search of power!

    • @terrancecloverfield6791
      @terrancecloverfield6791 Год назад +8

      Oh. Can you provide the title of the video? I'd like to watch it. I know both Amala and Buck and would love to see this.

    • @titanblade3706
      @titanblade3706 Год назад

      @@terrancecloverfield6791 link to what?

  • @StanChunghaOrGoHome
    @StanChunghaOrGoHome Год назад +3834

    Blossom uses the “I’m a black trans person” as a way to say “I’m the biggest victim out of all of you therefore my point is the only valid one”. Which is an obnoxious mentality to have.

    • @StAlchemyst
      @StAlchemyst Год назад +215

      Blossom has been to the White House, and given a free ride through med school. If anyone has had any REAL privilege it's her.

    • @SpectreBagels
      @SpectreBagels Год назад +44

      Specifically a racist mindset to have

    • @xander_k_
      @xander_k_ Год назад +1

      @@mynameisraybeing mixed only really affects you if you physically look like your non white race.

    • @IdkFoxii
      @IdkFoxii Год назад +2

      @@mynameisraywhat is she mixed with

    • @Sadlittlecloud
      @Sadlittlecloud Год назад +1

      @@mynameisrayshe definitely looks Latina IMO but yes race shouldn’t matter and it has 0 place in this debate

  • @hearts16
    @hearts16 Год назад +6158

    Blaire was on point when she pointed out that if trans ppl are 1% of the population and want to be heard and not disregarded, why do they totally disregard the 1% of detransitioners?
    Valid point!

    • @gimygaming8655
      @gimygaming8655 Год назад +56

      Agreed!

    • @punkrockresume
      @punkrockresume Год назад +454

      My favorite argument of the whole debate. Always so quick to invalidate detransitioners experience while screaming that everyone is invalidating theirs. It's the hypocrisy for me

    • @chinita1pr
      @chinita1pr Год назад +89

      I had never thought about that until she said it. Very insightful.

    • @sakasusuk
      @sakasusuk Год назад +86

      And then they used the excuse of ‘Well if happens’. Like BRO it happened in ur community and you just glossed it over as its some kind of ‘mistake’. I dont mind them being protective of the community but like why is it that they dont give the same energy with thr detransitioners

    • @ressesdave2250
      @ressesdave2250 Год назад +3

      Cause trans people are not harming the 99% of cis people. And trans people do feel for detransitioners but they are not gonna allow something to harm the 99% of trans people to save 1% of detransitioners. There are ways to help detransitioners without harming trans people. Alot of these detransitioners did not follow the correct wpath guidelines and went to bad doctors. But if a doctor commits malpractice you go after the doctor u don't go after the surgery that helps people.

  • @jeffreygreene1776
    @jeffreygreene1776 Месяц назад +74

    How is he trans if he’s “non-binary “ if you’re supposedly “non-binary ” how are you transitioning from one to the other if you’re neither?

    • @xaaysh
      @xaaysh 19 дней назад +4

      Not all people transition, Jeffrey. And non-binary people can have a transition to make themselves androgynous.

    • @sacred.eagle.skates
      @sacred.eagle.skates 11 дней назад +4

      @@xaayshyou said not everyone transitions and sometimes they transition to androgynous in the same breathe 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @britishsoldier1186
      @britishsoldier1186 8 дней назад +3

      ​@@sacred.eagle.skatesYes? I don't see how those statements are mutually exclusive. They just highlighted two possible paths that non-binary people could take.

  • @ReneeBuhrow2008
    @ReneeBuhrow2008 Год назад +1353

    Blossom just pissed me off. Victimizing herself and pulling the "as a black trans woman" card to get away with what she was saying. The blatant disrespect for NOT only Blaire but for everyone else speaking was so prominent.

    • @MissingOurMissingPod
      @MissingOurMissingPod Год назад

      All of the “conservative” people were so level headed. I didn’t think anything they were saying was at all conservative or bad or crazy - it was simple common sense. Blossom was batsh*t insane. It’s clear he has a mental illness.

    • @Poetic_cynn
      @Poetic_cynn Год назад +21

      She gives “black trans Karen” vibes

    • @rosecanpunchmeandIwouldsaysorr
      @rosecanpunchmeandIwouldsaysorr Год назад +10

      @@Poetic_cynnI mean she IS. She‘s unbearable af.

    • @red_calla_lily
      @red_calla_lily Год назад

      ​@@Poetic_cynnNo, she's just an aggressive guy in a wig. There's nothing feminine about her, it's all toxic masculinity.

    • @djgeneralbounce
      @djgeneralbounce 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Poetic_cynnhe's probably one of those who would say you're racist for using the "angry black Karen" trope when he's behaving exactly like that

  • @scarletpsycho5384
    @scarletpsycho5384 Год назад +2753

    Blossom is one of the most hypocritical people I’ve ever seen, no one was being rude or discriminating her, yet she pulled the victim card and not only did she act like she was the only poc in the room but she was the only one using her racial/ethnic background as an accuse to belittle everyone around her

    • @nashocheese
      @nashocheese Год назад +38

      That truly was hypocritical. I think at that point in the discussion she lost the room and everyone kind of got the feeling she was Irrational.

    • @Ghostman128x
      @Ghostman128x Год назад +63

      Me as a black person watching she did not have to pull the race card at any point in this video. She’s surrounded by people who welcomes all that she is. The fact that she pulled that and said other unnecessary things I’m just like 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @adelegatimbirizo7696
      @adelegatimbirizo7696 Год назад +15

      @@Ghostman128xliterally, like what does race have to do with with this debate at any point? Uuuuggghhhhh 😒

    • @liameiliana0587
      @liameiliana0587 Год назад +15

      i watched blossom in other videos and yes she is problematic. Like when she was arguing with amala, in trans vs concervative woman. When it comes to her argument, everything is valid, but the same thing applied to the opposite argument it's not anymore.

    • @jazmin2463
      @jazmin2463 Год назад +11

      Agreed!!!!! Blossom has major mentally internal issues, blossom has to figure that out personally way before being on any panel going forward. Almost all of the liberal side needs to sit and reflect. Almost all of their responses were so disgustingly selfish.

  • @ClaraPNAraujo
    @ClaraPNAraujo Год назад +4721

    I'm a liberal and honestly disappointed to see the treatment Blaire received from Blossom. There's absolutely no excuse to yell at someone during a debate. There's quite alot of Blaire's thoughts that I disagree with but she actually makes plenty of valid points and deserves respect as much as anyone else in the room

    • @spicycorndogs4619
      @spicycorndogs4619 Год назад +127

      I think she was also very disrespectful as well but Blossom definitely was out of pocket too

    • @thatvampigoddess926
      @thatvampigoddess926 Год назад +197

      I have seen a lot of debates on this channel and never have I seen them allow anyone to call someone disgusting up until this point.

    • @bellezaxglam9727
      @bellezaxglam9727 Год назад

      @@spicycorndogs4619agree

    • @ClaraPNAraujo
      @ClaraPNAraujo Год назад +103

      @@spicycorndogs4619 I agree, not a fan of the eye rolling and faces she came up with at some points. But Blossom took it to a whole other level.

    • @ClaraPNAraujo
      @ClaraPNAraujo Год назад +39

      @@thatvampigoddess926 that was straight up bullying

  • @sopegue
    @sopegue 2 месяца назад +163

    Bro I'm a straight guy but Blaire is the most sane trans person I've ever seen and heard, plus she's hilarious 🤣. I f...king love her (litteraly)

    • @waynegentner
      @waynegentner 2 месяца назад +3

      same

    • @Minerva-fp1zx
      @Minerva-fp1zx Месяц назад +1

      What does that have to do with you being straight...

    • @FRISHR
      @FRISHR Месяц назад +1

      She's not gonna let you hit bro lol

    • @FRISHR
      @FRISHR Месяц назад

      She's not gonna let you hit bro

    • @roxanasoza9627
      @roxanasoza9627 Месяц назад

      Same here

  • @SiaD777
    @SiaD777 11 месяцев назад +2759

    To compare dropping out of school to cutting off a body part is insane. You can always go back to school, you can't grow back a body part.

    • @thasisters4528
      @thasisters4528 11 месяцев назад +58

      Exactly what I was thinking!

    • @Deeptunester
      @Deeptunester 10 месяцев назад +80

      Not only that, but it makes sex change operations sound like a bad decision just like dropping out of school would be.

    • @tristangavura966
      @tristangavura966 10 месяцев назад +27

      You can go back and get a GED literally whenever

    • @janetcarswell2178
      @janetcarswell2178 10 месяцев назад +16

      I totally and utterly agree. That really annoyed me

    • @JusttheGayBits
      @JusttheGayBits 10 месяцев назад +4

      But I get what he's saying though. He was put in positions where was forced to be an adult before he wasn't an adult and yet he can't make decisions on his body like an adult. So the system picks and chooses when it sees minors as minors.

  • @Fortheloveoforthodoxing
    @Fortheloveoforthodoxing Год назад +1679

    It’s really cringe and unprofessional of Jubilee to not stop Blossom multiple times from interrupting literally EVERYONE on this panel. And yet around the 40min mark they tell Blaire to not interject comments during Blossom talking. Weird.

    • @goobieeleaf
      @goobieeleaf Год назад +31

      i saw it coming from both sides, i think they only really stopped it because it was escalating, which was way after the conversation went unprofessional

    • @unregisteredhypercam2142
      @unregisteredhypercam2142 Год назад +110

      My question is why they invited Blossom back when she was exactly like this last time she was in a Jubilee video.

    • @Penislaser
      @Penislaser Год назад +42

      because drama gives views, simple

    • @koraliee
      @koraliee Год назад +18

      ​@@unregisteredhypercam2142For rage farming. Blossom brings the drama, and drama gets engagement.
      Admittedly I still fell for it.

    • @hidansektas
      @hidansektas Год назад +21

      they need a whole another moderator. this was such a fail. blossom ruined it by her behaviour regardless of me agreeing or not agreeing with her. ridiculous

  • @trentont91
    @trentont91 Год назад +1847

    To compare minors getting surgery, to being able to drop out of school at 16, is just a false equivalence. You can always go back for an education at any age. You can’t come back from sex reaffirming surgeries. It’s just not the same.

    • @brookebyers1114
      @brookebyers1114 Год назад +35

      I agree!

    • @lacirivera26
      @lacirivera26 Год назад +49

      Exactly my thought when hearing that.

    • @shaun5047
      @shaun5047 Год назад +74

      Lol I’m honestly surprised no one called it out. It was such a ridiculous comparison.

    • @jamjarrben12
      @jamjarrben12 Год назад +13

      Exactly thankyou, someone who understand logic.

    • @SmittenandBitten
      @SmittenandBitten Год назад +109

      And more importantly... He says why am i allowed to live alone at 16 but not top surgery?
      Bro.... You were abandoned. You never had a choice. No one would agree that u should live as an adult at 16.
      And thats the answer.

  • @DalyCaves0807
    @DalyCaves0807 Месяц назад +45

    I like Sara!!! Very smart, respectful and on point!

  • @lacasadelmango8712
    @lacasadelmango8712 Год назад +564

    The argument that a child can drop out of high school so that means they should be able to have irreversible surgery literally makes no sense considering you can always go back to high school or get your GED. You can't get your breasts back once they're cut off.

    • @savvyc.4328
      @savvyc.4328 Год назад +46

      I had the exact same thought in that moment. Your life isn't ruined if you drop out of high school. You can always go back and fix it. You can't get your breasts back.

    • @onefishplease
      @onefishplease Год назад +20

      I couldn't believe what I was hearing...

    • @GotMyLegs
      @GotMyLegs Год назад +19

      Yeah, it was a false comparison.

    • @Kingofthenet2
      @Kingofthenet2 Год назад +3

      Great arguments

    • @xcricket6631
      @xcricket6631 Год назад +18

      Dropping out of highschool has the potential to alter your life but not in a way that can never be ameliorate. You can go back to school, you can find work, you can do things to change the course of your life. Permanently altering your body can never be repaired.

  • @Andrea-po3rm
    @Andrea-po3rm Год назад +1507

    I have worked in "grassroots" and have never and probably will never influence the number of people Blaire has. I do not agree with all her views, but i think it's inappropriate to negate the amount of work she has put into her craft and ignore the number of people she has reached. Regardless if you have helped a few people, a dozen, or a million. Do not let anyone devalue your worth.

    • @pchuru6734
      @pchuru6734 Год назад +41

      Blair is helping aLot people…. If she doesn’t do it in the way you want doesn’t count? Ridiculous. Not everyone has to be social worker, b Volunteer in order to make impact.
      The little respect I have towards trans community is for ppl like Blair and Sarah mature, respectful and articulate enough to don’t play victim card.

    • @GirlBehindACamera
      @GirlBehindACamera Год назад

      Blaire is the only sane person on this panel... the liberals ones are so out of touch with reality with their victim mindsets

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Год назад +68

      Blaire has helped me, as a biological woman, understand that there are trans people who aren’t just “men in a dress”! She has helped others too. Blossom……frightens the life out of me. I can find no common ground with someone like Blossom. Aggressive, and oppressive. Not someone I want to embrace.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Год назад

      @@pchuru6734 I agree.

    • @DeserieDrew
      @DeserieDrew Год назад +13

      Exactly! It's like who's standards are we going by here. Blaires given a platform for detransitioners before anyone else. 😢

  • @abbieahrens9565
    @abbieahrens9565 Год назад +4060

    Everyone is talking about Blair but SARA is the real star. She really educated everyone without getting upset and fired up. She justified everything with real reasons and experiences

    • @clarabruselas8444
      @clarabruselas8444 Год назад +466

      she didn´t get fired up because people weren´t out to get her the way they did with Blair. i assure you them knowing Blair was going to be there was their gold opportunity to shine by dragging her. there´s a huge portion of the trans community that hate her just because of not being delusional. That being said, i agree that Sara was fantastic and if people weren´t so focused on blasting Blair, we could have listened to Sara and everyone else more

    • @jeronimofrost6990
      @jeronimofrost6990 Год назад +237

      Sara made great points but they didn't try to cut Sara's throat like they did to Blaire. The director told Blaire she had to speak last and blossom screamed at and threatened her, all of which was edited out according to blaires reaction to this video

    • @veerbee
      @veerbee Год назад +121

      I think the opposing side didn't pay much attention to Sara, although she was obviously very well read and very smart, she knew what she was talking about and made excellent points. They were focused on Blair bc they saw her as a threat and not Sara

    • @moniquenickybasson6903
      @moniquenickybasson6903 Год назад +54

      sara wasn't being threatened like blaire was off camera and cut parts

    • @lucaal77
      @lucaal77 Год назад +30

      I definitely agree with this. The non binary person is just a joke

  • @ceethesol
    @ceethesol 27 дней назад +17

    “Wow so they’re advanced and can consent who else says that?” Has me gagged because blaire eluded to gender affirming surgeries being available to minors is predatory behavior.

    • @syd1019
      @syd1019 9 минут назад

      I caught that too. What a mic drop line haha

  • @Jasijay_
    @Jasijay_ Год назад +1928

    @jubilee Please do not have Blossom back on here…as a Black Woman myself, her being allowed to verbally attack other women and men because she disagrees with them is very disgusting. I thought this platform was inclusive I used to think highly of it but now…I don’t understand how you all can allow someone unhinged like that to be apart of this important dialogue showcase.

    • @dekxu6673
      @dekxu6673 Год назад +113

      she somehow turns every conversation into a full blown argument and talks over people. it’s annoying. its called middle ground, you’re gonna to hear opinions you don’t agree with, that’s the point.

    • @aorekagaming412
      @aorekagaming412 Год назад +1

      Then turns everything into a race war if losing the argument. Professional Victim

    • @CoquiDeBoriken
      @CoquiDeBoriken Год назад +13

      Because it helps expose assholes as well.

    • @ginihall1234
      @ginihall1234 Год назад +4

      This

    • @mikenray21
      @mikenray21 Год назад +10

      She never let's anyone else talk.

  • @metalheadfromslovakia
    @metalheadfromslovakia Год назад +12739

    Dear Blossom, it’s not your gender, it’s not your race… it’s you

    • @myracarol4114
      @myracarol4114 Год назад +386

      Ugh blossom is the absolute worst. Blossom should for everyone's sake please go away, far far away.

    • @truthbearingpsychonaut
      @truthbearingpsychonaut Год назад +46

      That's usually what you like to excuse racism as. She got heated and was a bit emotional, but Blaire was the mean witch here.

    • @Literally_a_Moth
      @Literally_a_Moth Год назад +45

      @@truthbearingpsychonautjubilee shouldn’t be making these videos if they’re just going to platform conservatives and racists.

    • @TwinsBigLikeTia
      @TwinsBigLikeTia Год назад

      @@truthbearingpsychonaut Blaire has never been racist 😂 being black just has nothing to do with the debate and topics being discussed. Just pulling another victim card to feed her narcissism. You see it in the libs in all of these debates. Can’t debate with facts and logic so they gotta pull something out to make it about them.

    • @izabellapollock
      @izabellapollock Год назад +145

      She’s willfully ignorant and is a bully just to support her own point. Any statistics or valid counter arguments that’s brought up, she denies it. It’s almost gaslighting

  • @Cyanotic73
    @Cyanotic73 7 месяцев назад +5963

    My whole heart broke when Andrew said “my privilege? I was raised by drug addicts and have HIV as a result” 😢😢😢

    • @gamerdudepunk
      @gamerdudepunk 7 месяцев назад +55

      aw :(

    • @Elavvqx
      @Elavvqx 6 месяцев назад +13

      Who did he say this to?

    • @jamalazero2353
      @jamalazero2353 6 месяцев назад +234

      @@Elavvqx he said it in response to blossom when blossom mentioned everyones privilege, it was in the trans in military discussion

    • @evalovett
      @evalovett 6 месяцев назад +2

      Blossom needs to realize everyone has their own set of problems and that not every single one (while there are some) of are directly stemmed from an individual’s race. Racism is horrible to face, point blank. But you don’t clock everyone who isn’t your race as “privileged”. Some of these people grew up in nightmare situations and/or endured painful situations. And they’re not even black. Racism hurts everyone. And the way she ignores these people’s feelings and actual vulnerable stories and moments shows she lacks empathy for them. She is the racist.

    • @dreamgrrrl
      @dreamgrrrl 6 месяцев назад +34

      @@Elavvqx around 25:16

  • @Psalmsing12
    @Psalmsing12 3 месяца назад +195

    Ugh i hate how they picked on Blair like that. She made the most sense

  • @ld7321
    @ld7321 Год назад +1412

    Blossom was PISSED that not any of the questions mentioned race so she just randomly threw it in at irrelevant moments and made a complete fool of herself lmao

    • @bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
      @bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 Год назад +8

      @@West4BMovementleave the conversation.

    • @KellyfromMemphisDD214
      @KellyfromMemphisDD214 Год назад +6

      @@West4BMovementUnnecessary

    • @juju-kn6rx
      @juju-kn6rx Год назад +3

      doing oprresion olympics for no reason fr

    • @ld7321
      @ld7321 Год назад +9

      @@juju-kn6rx haha, the way she dug herself a hole and everyone was looking so confused so she just summed it up with “my blackness should not have to pay for your whiteness!” like it was some mic drop moment 🤣 I didn’t know what tf was going on

    • @chromaddict
      @chromaddict 5 месяцев назад

      like at 1:20:34 what was she even talking about at that point lol

  • @itkillsthepainok336
    @itkillsthepainok336 Год назад +933

    When Sara asked what's your dyspohria, that moment of silence said a lot.

    • @commentbot9510
      @commentbot9510 Год назад +4

      Then the non binary couldn’t even answer the question. They just kept saying “YOU DON’T KNOW MY EXPERIENCE. YOU CAN HAVE OTHER DYSPHORIA” but then never said what the dysphoria was like 🤦‍♀️

    • @moonbeamstry5321
      @moonbeamstry5321 Год назад

      Because they're not even non binary either. What they ACTUALLY have is facetious disorder. The trans community provides a LOT of very convenient and attractive plausible deniability for people who're actually suffering from facetious disorder. And many Drs and therapists and parents are now falling into the facetious disorder imposed on another category. It's very alarming because its the deadliest form of abuse there is.
      "In factitious disorder imposed on another, a caregiver makes a dependent person appear mentally or physically ill in order to gain attention. To perpetuate the medical relationship, the caregiver systematically misrepresents symptoms, fabricates signs, manipulates laboratory tests, or even purposely harms the dependent (e.g. by poisoning, suffocation, infection, physical injury). It is important to note the caregiver is not performing this behavior for obvious external reward, such as money. Studies have shown a mortality rate of between six and ten percent, making it perhaps the most lethal form of abuse."

    • @KiIIerBean
      @KiIIerBean Год назад +183

      and then the 'non binary' person mixed up dysphoria and dysmorphia...

    • @ramittyagi667
      @ramittyagi667 Год назад +46

      @@KiIIerBean exactly like atleast educate urself on the fundamentals before coming to a debate

    • @1800MDGAF
      @1800MDGAF Год назад +26

      ​@KiIIerBean yeah wtf was that? Embarrassing is what it was. That person's actions were disgusting.

  • @tonyamell23
    @tonyamell23 Год назад +3794

    Blossom is really a joke! Im a black trans woman myself and never would I use that as a weapon to basically walk all over people the way she does. The whole, "Never interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking," was just insane! How people take her seriously as a trans advocate/activist? I'm confused myself.

    • @Layla109
      @Layla109 Год назад +1

      Blossom's a horrible representation of black trans community. Full stop. They should stop inviting them to these debates with as much toxic masculine energy they exuded at certain points was more than palpable.

    • @Dcysngr108
      @Dcysngr108 Год назад +169

      Thanks for saying that. Blossom is acting like they represent EVERYONE and I think they actually represent nobody in the process

    • @Dcysngr108
      @Dcysngr108 Год назад +85

      Hopefully I wasn't interrupting you as a black trans woman 😂❤

    • @anahernandez4043
      @anahernandez4043 Год назад +45

      Sounds like you're a more well rounded person.

    • @silentghost751
      @silentghost751 Год назад

      Why are you trans?

  • @marymaryyubuggin75
    @marymaryyubuggin75 Месяц назад +19

    "I'm not trying to be combative..." says the extremely loud, aggressive, interrupting person who was challenging Blaire before everyone even sat down. The lack of self-awareness is the exhausting and repetitive theme.

  • @iggyigz4229
    @iggyigz4229 Год назад +5833

    Imagine being so privileged that you can actually say "don't interrupt a black trans person" and expect that everyone will stop interrupting you

    • @dharmainitiative9152
      @dharmainitiative9152 Год назад +267

      Because she is the most oppressed, didn’t you get the memo? 😆

    • @reheatthepasta9545
      @reheatthepasta9545 Год назад +79

      I feel as though that usually flies in their own echo chamber but the common sense portion of the world doesn’t exist there so when we see it the cringe and “wtf” thoughts form.

    • @kaygee2121
      @kaygee2121 Год назад +67

      Word. Literal entitlement.

    • @AJManol
      @AJManol Год назад +28

      But people DO cowtow to her. Everyone is afraid of being cancelled or thought of as a "bigot". (Pot calling the kettle black, much?)

    • @grace.charlie
      @grace.charlie Год назад

      Blossom and the rest of the libs are ruining it for themselves and aren’t even realizing it

  • @azayzelderegis1655
    @azayzelderegis1655 Год назад +627

    It's not an "obsession" to care about how kids are being treated by their parents. That's normal. That's empathetic.

    • @ShumilaAhmad
      @ShumilaAhmad Год назад +65

      That was such a weird take. Strange person.

    • @darksat6
      @darksat6 Год назад +25

      He's projecting

    • @TheNerd-Y
      @TheNerd-Y Год назад

      And as adults, it is our responsibility to protect the welfare of children so I can never understand why libs say it's an 'obsession' like it's a bad thing

    • @sarahsays194
      @sarahsays194 Год назад +29

      How dare you care how a parent is raising their child!? What business is it of yours? Well, screw all those children being neglected and abused in so many different ways from parents I guess... No business of mine apparently...

    • @lolsamftw
      @lolsamftw Год назад +26

      He doesn't care about children's safety but is perfectly fine with children "consenting" to things....I think we all know what his agenda is.

  • @Birdbandb
    @Birdbandb Год назад +2003

    Everyone sleeping on Sarah. Clearly well educated and well spoken - also amazing demeanor.

    • @Kyrridwen420
      @Kyrridwen420 Год назад +45

      Also the "let's go girl" moment was so cute, very Shania Twain 😂✨️💕

    • @laurenlynn4464
      @laurenlynn4464 Год назад +17

      Loved her too she’s well spoken and I appreciate seeing her talk about her experiences.

    • @elle7899
      @elle7899 Год назад +11

      Is she the one who was in the military? I didn't catch anyone's name except Blair and Blossom.

    • @Hallow5s
      @Hallow5s Год назад +7

      @@Kyrridwen420 AND THENN THE POWER WALK AFTER THAT WASS SO ICONNIC I CANNNNTTTT

    • @elle7899
      @elle7899 Год назад +1

      @@mr22288 Loved her.

  • @MrLittletube
    @MrLittletube 2 месяца назад +14

    Crazy that linebacker thought this was a middle ground episode about race and not trans.

  • @joyq1579
    @joyq1579 Год назад +4318

    As somebody who's pretty liberal..I was EMBARRASSED. They didn't win any arguments, just derailed valid points. Blossom really thought she ate by bringing her race into this 😭

    • @kellyperry559
      @kellyperry559 Год назад +76

      Were you actually surprised that he brought race into it?

    • @reinexalumina9925
      @reinexalumina9925 Год назад +120

      I mean, that's how most "liberals" talk on the internet and in the West, so I wasn't surprised. It's the woke culture.
      My family is pretty liberal, but I turned conservative because there are far too many extremist "liberals" nowadays. The scream for "tolerance" but can't even tolerate that some people have different ideas that don't agree with them.
      The only liberals I am thankful for are real liberals whom I can actually have normal conversations with and don't have to always walk on eggshells.
      People don't always have to agree on things. What matters is how we treat each other and not just call people "Bigots" every time they disagree with you.

    • @shadowyzephyr
      @shadowyzephyr Год назад

      As a liberal, there are a subset of liberals who try to bring race into everything, and it's really annoying.

    • @idk-mz3ys
      @idk-mz3ys Год назад +51

      yeah, same. I think Shane was the only liberal who raised strong, supported arguments against the conservative side, he didn't really get any help from the other liberals tho. I think Blossom was actively hurting the liberal side the whole time by, making herself the Liberal stereotype

    • @joyq1579
      @joyq1579 Год назад +64

      @@idk-mz3ys I liked Shane until I found out he went on a podcast with Blossom to talk about how they "won" the debate 😭 I thought this was a channel to reach a middle ground, not arguing.

  • @lorena5mash
    @lorena5mash Год назад +1401

    When they ran out of logic, they started to use personal attacks. That's a big sign of weakness in a debate and a display of your intelligence.

    • @mylene_b
      @mylene_b Год назад +20

      I noticed that too.

    • @yikes.3239
      @yikes.3239 Год назад +4

      what is a sign of intelligence is not having to quantify intelligence by levels of emotional arousal. someone can be intelligent and have less emotional control. two things can exist at once!

    • @lorena5mash
      @lorena5mash Год назад +31

      @@yikes.3239 Sure. It doesn't say everything. But if you resort to calling someone disgusting in a debate because you can't win with your arguments, I don't think that's solely to do with losing your temper.

    • @keonhh10
      @keonhh10 Год назад +4

      not exactly understanding who this is directed towards, but blair made personal attacks towards people throughout the debate.. she’s not exactly known for her logical reasoning and debate skills either

    • @caitlinhammons2437
      @caitlinhammons2437 Год назад +5

      @@keonhh10 they edited the timeline to make it look as though Blair started the personal attacks. Apparently, the military prompt was the first question asked, and they immediately jumped on Blair because she's a high profile person they obviously don't like.

  • @blandbeauty
    @blandbeauty Год назад +4797

    There needs to be a black trans conservatives vs black trans liberals. Bring Blossom back, and see how far she gets without being able rest her points on “being a black trans woman”

    • @len-1768
      @len-1768 Год назад +160

      Even better, bring Flame Monroe and Kat Blaque.

    • @LoveMiaStuff
      @LoveMiaStuff Год назад

      @@len-1768second on Kat, she’d excel here

    • @ave8863
      @ave8863 Год назад +73

      Yes because she goes off when she knows people aren’t combative.

    • @keirahleesha486
      @keirahleesha486 Год назад +37

      @@len-1768yesss lol, they can read her to filth & they’ll stop the bullcrap from her before it even starts😂 they aren’t disillusioned with what they really are & what life is.

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад +19

      As a liberal, I agree she was annoying and that felt a little too much. Blossom and Blair were both insufferable and should not have been there.

  • @juliablakeney1829
    @juliablakeney1829 16 дней назад +8

    I wish i could hug jessica when she said “i know i dont pass”. You are beautiful and kind ❤

  • @nocterniaobscura
    @nocterniaobscura Год назад +911

    I really liked Sara, she was calm and knowledgeable, imo she really helped people who are new to this understand the conservative side point of view.

  • @ezra_k2
    @ezra_k2 Год назад +4001

    Blossom out here talking about how transwomen should be safe and look out for each other but then threatening a transwoman 💀

    • @jjtrejo4125
      @jjtrejo4125 Год назад +113

      yup. it's called ✨entitled✨

    • @PrettyBaby293
      @PrettyBaby293 11 месяцев назад +92

      @@jjtrejo4125it’s called ✨innate behavior✨ blossom is just doing what biological men are programmed to do..be territorial and aggressive lmao

    • @sad_vegan507
      @sad_vegan507 11 месяцев назад +23

      Blossom is the most privileged out of everyone

    • @CatBahptista
      @CatBahptista 11 месяцев назад +1

      With that big ole linebacker 6 foot 6 body or however tall “she” is 💀 gtfoh

    • @vw4822
      @vw4822 11 месяцев назад +28

      And doesn't give a sh*t about sis women. I'm not sure any woman would be comfortable around Blossom who is extremely aggressive.

  • @xxmira.1738
    @xxmira.1738 Год назад +4013

    sara is so well-educated. i hate that they kept speaking over her when discussing the military ban cause she’s the actual veteran here😭!

    • @evedaslayr
      @evedaslayr Год назад +3

      So?

    • @whym3689
      @whym3689 Год назад +274

      @@evedaslayrso she knows what it’s actually like first hand experience. They’re all speaking from statistics and interviews while she’s BEEN THERE SHE WAS THERE. She’s literally the person they’re talking about

    • @georgiabluesjohnson4251
      @georgiabluesjohnson4251 Год назад +92

      Exactly it was so annoying like how are u gonna talk about the service but ur not even letting the ONLY veteran there speak about their real experience

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад +31

      As a Liberal, I actually enjoyed her viewpoints. I hated Blair tho, she was so rude and KEPT interrupting. It felt like she was there to just peddle her arguments and not to debate. Blossom was also quite annoying too.

    • @WrongWayRomanGabe
      @WrongWayRomanGabe Год назад +1

      I've seen her in other content/ videos..she always mentions THE SAME things over and over and only sites the 1,same source that she says b4, it's almost like she put together this list of stats. and factoids that's all well reversed and scripted..plus she's not only a CONSERVATIVE trans person, she's sitting with the SAME group of ppl that won't even call her and her & wouldn't cross the street to pass on if she was on fire, so that alone shows some red flags that I won't go into ab this 'person'...she also just gives off bad vibes.js

  • @dalefletcher7708
    @dalefletcher7708 2 месяца назад +45

    Blossom breaking the in case of emergency glass and pulling out the race card just shows how unequipped she was throughout most of the debate prompts.

    • @lisaclarke5191
      @lisaclarke5191 2 месяца назад +1

      Was so cringe watching her pull that crap.

    • @thelymewarrior
      @thelymewarrior 18 дней назад

      Not cringe when it’s relevant

  • @DeanthiusD
    @DeanthiusD Год назад +2714

    The “Don’t interrupt a black trans woman while she’s speaking.” statement made me cringe so hard; and im black trans woman myself lol

    • @poisonedcupcake6860
      @poisonedcupcake6860 Год назад +78

      Thankyou beautiful lady, I definitely raised an eyebrow hearing that said.

    • @TheTransConservative
      @TheTransConservative Год назад +41

      And I love you for that

    • @Detsubkrod
      @Detsubkrod Год назад

      You got a boyfriend?

    • @TheTransConservative
      @TheTransConservative Год назад +34

      @@Detsubkrod Silence.

    • @cdaz55
      @cdaz55 Год назад +31

      She talks about privilege. Who is the one behaving like she thinks she has privilege by telling Blair not to interrupt her even though Blair is trying to respond to her.

  • @LittleBrassPegasus
    @LittleBrassPegasus Год назад +3844

    The fact that the "non binary" person on the panel questioned more than once "whats the obsession with other people's kids" is a point blank representation of how egocentric and apathetic he is towards other people he cant relate to. Children MUST BE PROTECTED. If I see a child being abused in ANY capacity I WILL speak up. I will never turn a blind eye to children suffering abuse or manipulation.

    • @algs4882
      @algs4882 Год назад +107

      I respect and somewhat agree with your opinion, it is very important to make sure children have the support they need. However, you can state your opinions without disrespecting Alexander as a nonbinary person. THEY deserve respect just as you do and everyone else even if you dont agree with them... please use the correct pronouns... kind regards

    • @dudeorduuude5211
      @dudeorduuude5211 Год назад

      ​@@algs4882be quiet and stop being an AH.

    • @niaobviously
      @niaobviously Год назад +34

      Who’s “he”?

    • @blarty
      @blarty Год назад +37

      they*

    • @chrisspike3282
      @chrisspike3282 Год назад +1

      @@blarty HE. I'll use it in a sentence so you can understand: "HE wears clown make up and has a d*ck, so HE is male". Got it babes?

  • @Hajkaknsn
    @Hajkaknsn 11 месяцев назад +741

    Oh Blossom…
    You cannot interrupt people mid sentence after telling them to not interrupt you. You get what you give.

    • @minty094
      @minty094 10 месяцев назад +14

      Exactly respect goes both ways 👏

    • @chill-pill923
      @chill-pill923 9 месяцев назад +3

      he's a hypocrite

  • @lorimailloux9793
    @lorimailloux9793 3 месяца назад +24

    I really enjoyed this debate in spite of the nastiness from Blossom and Alexander toward Blair. Blair did talk over them but mostly to defend herself. What i heard reinforced my conservative views. Thank you 😊

  • @Black_Myth679
    @Black_Myth679 Год назад +1230

    Just to be 100% clear. I’m black and that woman was painfully insufferable

    • @maidenofiron
      @maidenofiron Год назад +44

      Same here. She was the worse part of this entire debate.

    • @fancyfancy8549
      @fancyfancy8549 Год назад +24

      Same. Embarrassing tbh.

    • @tristankerr3655
      @tristankerr3655 Год назад

      Her and Boy George with a yellow condom on his head

    • @courtneywalker5285
      @courtneywalker5285 Год назад +12

      Same here. Hunny hush and let people talk.

    • @adas.985
      @adas.985 Год назад +24

      It's even too nice of you to call him a woman.

  • @giorgiadurantini5240
    @giorgiadurantini5240 Год назад +1321

    Everyone talking about Blair and Blossom but... can we talk about Sara? She was so well informed, well spoken, polite, calm and brought to the conversation a lot of very interesting points! I wanted to hear more form her!

    • @myfriescold-gabrielamoreno3324
      @myfriescold-gabrielamoreno3324 Год назад +20

      I loved her and Jessica!!

    • @Mica98
      @Mica98 Год назад +7

      Exactly!! She's so smart and calm, I would love to hear more of her side! I feel like she was the middle ground in person 😅

    • @MoyitasLife
      @MoyitasLife Год назад

      I was thinking this too!!!

    • @skypie5374
      @skypie5374 Год назад

      ABSOLUTELY

    • @Her0115Vlogs
      @Her0115Vlogs Год назад +1

      I agree we need more of Sara

  • @digtzydogmemechannel5670
    @digtzydogmemechannel5670 Год назад +1337

    Sara won this debate... Not once did she speak over anyone and she was respectful and actually brought up facts and what happens to OTHER people instead of her own experiences to validate her opinions on these issues

    • @user-ij3yf7nr4q
      @user-ij3yf7nr4q Год назад +81

      I hear you. But the result of that was that she barely got in a word edgewise.
      Which is sad, really.

    • @912klb
      @912klb Год назад +15

      I absolutely love her!

    • @Alexandraincognito
      @Alexandraincognito Год назад +7

      Sorry, who is Sara again?

    • @adil0028
      @adil0028 Год назад +39

      @@Alexandraincognito the ex military trans girl

    • @Alexandraincognito
      @Alexandraincognito Год назад +40

      @@adil0028 Thanks! Yes, she was a very valuable person in this debate.

  • @nathanwhelchel3265
    @nathanwhelchel3265 2 месяца назад +59

    Do not interrupt a black transwoman when they are speaking. Sounds like privilege to me

  • @IslandVibez_Virgo
    @IslandVibez_Virgo Год назад +4283

    As a black person I’m so tired of ppl bringing race into an argument that has nothing to do with race as a deflection tactic 🙄

    • @demondbrooks568
      @demondbrooks568 Год назад

      Trying to be a victim and bully in the same breath....disingenuous....she knows she can get away with that shyt around white people....did you see her CNN clip?

    • @YAHWEH_TSIDKENU
      @YAHWEH_TSIDKENU Год назад +34

      So true. We gotta take accountability

    • @xatusound
      @xatusound Год назад

      "as a black person" you hate when people bring up race? but you just did the same thing? Why is it ok when you use race to qualify and distance yourself, but she can't use it to empower? make it make sense please.

    • @aplaowattanakul7760
      @aplaowattanakul7760 Год назад +9

      Some black people said asking about gender is racist.

    • @tekitaway2
      @tekitaway2 Год назад +9

      ​@@aplaowattanakul7760no that was a white person. 😂😂. They said if they got asked their gender it would be racist

  • @jinnieneutron7572
    @jinnieneutron7572 Год назад +10256

    i’m not even conservative but this was CRAZY. The liberals were so aggressive 💀

    • @sangi0684
      @sangi0684 Год назад +94

      same

    • @kkthomas6864
      @kkthomas6864 Год назад

      They usually are aggressive! Look at all the crazies protesting in NYC against Israel. The LGBT community is siding with Palestine and they must have forgot Muslims are anti-gay BIGTIME and Israel is welcoming/accepting!

    • @coltonc8894
      @coltonc8894 Год назад +565

      Seriously.. all feral for no reason lmao.. like we’re adults , let’s act like it and have actual debates that aren’t toxic

    • @malivolusj3110
      @malivolusj3110 Год назад +375

      Time to switch over? We have cookies.

    • @Anne_Onymous
      @Anne_Onymous Год назад +68

      What's new?

  • @RachaelWReads
    @RachaelWReads Год назад +2046

    Wow, Blair’s point on the 1% double-standard was eye-opening. I have soooo much respect for the fact that she has CLEARLY given this sincere, introspective thought.

    • @kateg9437
      @kateg9437 Год назад +35

      It's been her job for years, you'd hope she had thought about these things

    • @RachaelWReads
      @RachaelWReads Год назад +82

      @@kateg9437 I think there are a lot of people out there doing work that haven’t given topics like these enough thought. Blossom is a perfect example.

    • @next_door_rigil3270
      @next_door_rigil3270 Год назад +36

      ​​@@RachaelWReadsBlair has been a famous conservative for years and has been debating for a living in that time. I have never heard of Blossom so how could she compare to a seasoned political youtuber?
      Not to forget reasoning is different from debating. You can have logic on your side and still lose if you dont know how to debate.

    • @alpacamale2909
      @alpacamale2909 Год назад

      it was the clearest point and we all made it in our heads when the tall guy was talking. oh so you care about your minority but another minority. The hypocrisy is astronomical.

    • @B1scu1t_Case
      @B1scu1t_Case Год назад +17

      ​@@next_door_rigil3270If I remember correctly, when she debated Destiny, she mentioned that she's Republican but NOT a conservative.

  • @loumoon7660
    @loumoon7660 19 дней назад +7

    The whole bathroom debate is wild bc in Europe their bathroom stalls are rooms and unisex. If the US didn’t have paper stalls it wouldn’t be as big of an issue

    • @RoseSkull113
      @RoseSkull113 16 дней назад +1

      thats so cool! Definitely think that it should be used in America. It would get rid of all of these trans people and cis people feeling uncomfortable and i think the rooms will also be very safe for the public in general

    • @stephnicole3078
      @stephnicole3078 День назад +1

      Totally agree. People keep bringing up adding a third bathroom as the solution but my thought the whole time was why have separate bathrooms at all? People forget that even in the US, having specific men’s and women’s restrooms is a pretty recent development. I know certain folks love to fear-monger about women being attacked in restrooms but I promise you, a sign with a stick figure in a dress is not going to stop someone who wants to hurt women. Improve the quality of the stalls themselves and go back to unisex bathrooms. Problem solved. Then maybe we can actually get down to dealing with the core issues that focusing on trivial things like bathrooms distract from.

  • @AngeliquesWings
    @AngeliquesWings Год назад +2799

    Ironic how Blossom pulled the race card every chance she got and used it against Blaire when she's literally mixed race herself

    • @jeffkennerson9116
      @jeffkennerson9116 Год назад +47

      always does in any RUclips or media appearance,

    • @SimorneJanuarie
      @SimorneJanuarie Год назад +11

      Just create a third space🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @dundermifflinscott2217
      @dundermifflinscott2217 Год назад +44

      That just means she is a little higher on the oppression ladder. Gotta feed that victim status

    • @valbankz292
      @valbankz292 Год назад +2

      Agree

    • @mimipenafiel3523
      @mimipenafiel3523 Год назад +17

      That is what ppl do when they have nothing to say.😊

  • @jadengrace_
    @jadengrace_ Год назад +549

    Wow the part where Jessica said, not passing was a me problem, and not turning the fear of being attacked in the men’s restroom into a women’s issue was beautifully stated and powerful

    • @nashocheese
      @nashocheese Год назад +5

      I don't think Jessica ever really answered which bathroom she uses, I imagine the women's, but her point was that if she didn't fit adequately, she'd use the men's.

    • @4651adri
      @4651adri Год назад +2

      As he should

    • @whoahorseywhoa4685
      @whoahorseywhoa4685 Год назад +1

      @@nashocheese i THINK HE SAID MENS BECAUSE HE DOESNT PASS .

    • @MarilynFinland
      @MarilynFinland Год назад +2

      Her attitude is very graceful.

    • @bangtanphoenix7280
      @bangtanphoenix7280 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@whoahorseywhoa4685she said men's because she feels like she doesn't pass.
      I think she does.

  • @ToniOne03
    @ToniOne03 Год назад +5485

    Why are they asking Blair if she ever took care of a homeless transgender person before? This is ridiculous.

    • @swooningtree
      @swooningtree Год назад +453

      That part was like a comedy sketch. So un-self aware

    • @xthruxglassx
      @xthruxglassx Год назад +273

      Innit! It's like asking a pediatrician have they ever gone and taught in a school because otherwise they aren't helping children. It's the anger at her social media presence that they go for the attack because she is not 100% victimising herself to fit the narrative of "prioritise the trans community rights, or else its bigotry"

    • @GenVee
      @GenVee Год назад +112

      It's ridiculous...there are people that help homeless people in general...trans aren't special.

    • @justdont2378
      @justdont2378 Год назад +26

      They were waiting for that the moment they heard she was gonna be in the debate.

    • @Matvakia
      @Matvakia Год назад +40

      being an influencer and talking about trans stuff is not social work, social work is social work

  • @nataliemartini5897
    @nataliemartini5897 2 месяца назад +9

    Oh my! Did she say some adults don't understand, but don't underestimate the intelligence of children to make decisions. Crazy!

  • @PrimadonnaDoll
    @PrimadonnaDoll Год назад +7422

    I burst into laughter when she pulled the "trans black woman" card. That's hysterical. Literally no one brought up race at all. It's so extra.

  • @Petravana0412
    @Petravana0412 Год назад +748

    This entire comment section should be giving Jubilee a huge wake-up call. I hope they equip their future debates with more efficient moderators who can actually steer the conversation into a productive one, rather than let the participants threaten each other and question the “qualifications” of trans people in a trans discussion.

    • @petrstanik7597
      @petrstanik7597 Год назад +12

      No and no. Just because on person send her million of her followers after she plays victim of debate in her crying video :) it does not mean moderators should constantly jump into debate of adults. It was never a concept of jubilee having moderator. If not Blaire and Blossom, there would be no moderation needed at all.

    • @Petravana0412
      @Petravana0412 Год назад +5

      Please, I would have much rather watched a debate without either of them😂I wish

    • @cornpeal8945
      @cornpeal8945 Год назад +6

      I kind of like that the moderators keep quiet 😂 even though it’s chaotic, but just from a viewers pov

    • @Loakley1998
      @Loakley1998 Год назад

      Absolutely agree

    • @isabelgroves7691
      @isabelgroves7691 Год назад +4

      Their bias was painfully evident in this video

  • @Amiyaht635
    @Amiyaht635 Год назад +1061

    “That is disrespectful to tell a person how they should feel” - Blossom, but wait you were just attacking women on how WE should feel about trans women in the restroom.
    Do you not hear yourself?

    • @duneeaaasha
      @duneeaaasha Год назад +96

      Esp since they are a possible threat to us and a minority, why should we be putting their feelings above our safety? She’s so inconsiderate of the community (women) that she is trying to be a part of.

    • @Amiyaht635
      @Amiyaht635 Год назад +61

      @@duneeaaasha”They” (some trans women) want women to accept them but will not accept us (women) and what we believe in. I truly think that there will never be a middle ground

    • @julikroos
      @julikroos Год назад +18

      She is delusional

    • @claff4573
      @claff4573 Год назад

      @@duneeaaasha So are actual men. You don't here conservatives talking about that though. They gaslight feminists and women while making it seem like trans people cause most issues. Yes they should be called out, but so should men just as much as conservatives talk about trans if they really care about women or girls (they don't, unless they get political gain from it.)

    • @claff4573
      @claff4573 Год назад

      So are actual men. You don't here conservatives talking about that though. They gaslight feminists and women while making it seem like T people cause most issues

  • @Jteacup
    @Jteacup 2 месяца назад +24

    Blair White always coming through for women, trans women, children and society. 👏👏

    • @Kcmonyouguys
      @Kcmonyouguys Месяц назад

      ???????????????????????????????

  • @afrominded
    @afrominded Год назад +1156

    I am SO happy that this comment section is actually full of reasonable people. Facts over feelings. Blossom's behavior was UNACCEPTABLE

    • @charmingheartphotography6758
      @charmingheartphotography6758 Год назад +20

      I wanted to avoid the comments section at first becauae I really thought the comments would be aggressive and out of line, like they were on the show, but I have been pleasantly surprised. 😅

    • @Imnotabott_
      @Imnotabott_ Год назад

      You mean full of conservatives and republicans who hate the lgbtq🙄

    • @jordynm103
      @jordynm103 Год назад +7

      @@charmingheartphotography6758 exactly, i was shocked when i saw the comments.

    • @ElisabethBaumgart
      @ElisabethBaumgart Месяц назад

      I read that last word in Jo Frost's voice, lol

  • @Ennaitak
    @Ennaitak Год назад +715

    The fact that Blossom is now claiming Blaire lied and edited the video when it came to the threat is almost laughable. Blaire doesn't work for jubilee. She doesn't have the power to edit threats 🤦‍♀️

    • @ForeverBlooming-05
      @ForeverBlooming-05 Год назад +31

      Blossom is sad

    • @Alexa-rz4ih
      @Alexa-rz4ih Год назад +40

      The delusion is real😭

    • @ohmyg1932
      @ohmyg1932 Год назад +13

      and that part isn't even cut. the threat is clearly visible in the entire context lol

    • @sofiaskakalovaw4137
      @sofiaskakalovaw4137 Год назад +6

      she has no idea that the whole uncut is also uploaded on their Patrion :D EVERYTHING .

    • @jikman681
      @jikman681 Год назад +1

      I didnt see this threat. can ya give me a timestamp or say in which promp it was?

  • @noah1502
    @noah1502 Год назад +1484

    huge respect to jessica for acknowledging that she does not pass and that, as a male person, she can make women feel afraid and uncomforatble in their private safe spaces. THAT is a true ally who cares about women. I would stand alongside jessica and make sure all esablishements have at least 1 gender neutral restroom that she could use in lieue of the mens restroom if that helps her stay safer.

    • @wonderwoman1700
      @wonderwoman1700 Год назад +81

      I thought Jessica was so sweet. 🥹🧸

    • @whoisedie1127
      @whoisedie1127 Год назад +6

      🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @Lolidella82
      @Lolidella82 Год назад +77

      I agree. That was brave of her to acknowledge. And as a woman, if people can truly respect women's spaces, then majority of women are very welcoming.

    • @Radio_entelechy
      @Radio_entelechy Год назад +50

      I would have liked to have heard more from her. I think someone with maturity and experience will generally have a more considered insight into these issues.

    • @tinamarie3653
      @tinamarie3653 Год назад +19

      I seriously need to know does she have a channel or anything I can see her further. I want to adopt her as my Auntie..no lie. Such a kind soul. Someone I'd love to know in life.
      **Jessica- if you see this - Darlin you are awesome. Please if u have a channel or anywhere else I can follow you will u reply and let me know.. 🌺

  • @miaherron2538
    @miaherron2538 17 дней назад +3

    I continue to love Sasha literally every time he speaks I can’t

  • @indica534
    @indica534 Год назад +950

    "cis women have dysphoria about their breasts". Its not dysphoria its dysmorphia, those are 2 different mental disorders

    • @EM-cy2ml
      @EM-cy2ml Год назад +7

      Thank!!!

    • @babymelon4
      @babymelon4 Год назад +99

      he doesn't even know what gender dysphoria is and claims that he is 'trans' LMAO

    • @indica534
      @indica534 Год назад +42

      @@babymelon4 yep, that was kinda the point I was trying to make. He's trying to say he's something, that he doesn't even fully understand

    • @shellbeeforreal3915
      @shellbeeforreal3915 Год назад +9

      I said the exact same thing lol! It’s them mixing dysphoria with dysmorphia haha wow that’s rich 😂

    • @MarshaBrady88
      @MarshaBrady88 Год назад +9

      No, cis women can have dysphoria about their breasts. I’ve known women myself who had dysphoria because they felt that their breasts were so small that it made them feel like a boy. Not in the trans sense, but it made her feel less of a women.
      Since that involves your perception of your own gender, it is dysphoria

  • @MissAllWednesday
    @MissAllWednesday Год назад +3369

    Shame on Jubilee for Copyright Striking Blaire's reaction video to her experience on Jubilee. I'm not even conservative, and y'all were totally bias. Your audience deserves a redo!

    • @lexyg1693
      @lexyg1693 Год назад +246

      Because she doesn't fit their narrative and of course they have to be petty 🙄

    • @kstephane1444
      @kstephane1444 Год назад +1

      You are not liberal either so

    • @1farahnaz
      @1farahnaz Год назад +1

      Wtffff jubilee SHAME ON YOU

    • @cynister7355
      @cynister7355 Год назад +50

      That's messed up. That makes me more invested to watch it.

    • @ramittyagi667
      @ramittyagi667 Год назад +9

      Sooo true this is really sad to see these double standards

  • @ILikeCheesesticks
    @ILikeCheesesticks Год назад +1548

    “If you’re a decent person, you should do what causes the least amount of problems for everyone around you”
    That is definitely the correct answer that for some reason no one else ever says

    • @ziggyzoo9335
      @ziggyzoo9335 Год назад +30

      It also means that other people will end up having a better opinion of that person and their community

    • @Neonlazerbeams
      @Neonlazerbeams Год назад +36

      theres a difference between being considerate and letting ppl walk all over you. if no one ever made a scene abt the problems in life nothing would ever get better.

    • @ziggyzoo9335
      @ziggyzoo9335 Год назад +35

      @@Neonlazerbeams yeah, but there's also a difference between standing up for yourself and causing unnecessary problems to cause a scene

    • @sarahg2733
      @sarahg2733 Год назад +8

      Blair and her people seem like they use common sense, and they don't sound selfish and entitled. That's why people like them.

    • @Beregond1861
      @Beregond1861 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@ziggyzoo9335Anyone who cares MORE about the subjective opinions of others than the *objective well-being* of others (despite ANY opinions ever) IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a decent person.
      Any adult who lets children eat, listen to, watch, say and spend time around WHOEVER AND WHATEVER they want is an inconsiderate, indecent and immature adult.
      Anyone who disagrees with those facts is emotionally compromised and rationally condemnable.

  • @Rourou_w
    @Rourou_w 22 дня назад +6

    I genuinely wondered why 3 cis men where in that debate before realizing they were trans men

  • @TwattWaffleWhitney
    @TwattWaffleWhitney Год назад +759

    Blair was so brave to come and do this panel. To hear and see how she was treated is really sad and shameful

    • @Whatishappeningxyz
      @Whatishappeningxyz Год назад +40

      She’s not scared of anyone I love her

    • @janetuss6496
      @janetuss6496 Год назад +23

      It must take a toll on her to always have to be fighting the crazies, hope she stays strong.

    • @Nemo12417
      @Nemo12417 Год назад

      He deserves far worse. All trans people deserve far worse, but this Blaire dude has reach and has therefore groomed more children than any of the liberals here.

    • @ghostpoop2349
      @ghostpoop2349 Год назад

      💔

    • @serena3560
      @serena3560 Год назад

      Cry harder

  • @piecebypiece2028
    @piecebypiece2028 Год назад +1765

    Its crazy that jubilee tried so hard to make Blair look unhinged and crazy with their editing, and she still comes across as a buddhist monk when compared to Blossom.

    • @AzDoll714
      @AzDoll714 Год назад

      The producers are pathetic

    • @moldbrain660
      @moldbrain660 Год назад +62

      A Buddhist monk broooooo☠️☠️

    • @theriseofyousafzai
      @theriseofyousafzai Год назад +6

      😂

    • @WattPheasant
      @WattPheasant Год назад +45

      Blossom and Blaire were both being insufferable.

    • @DubsTV93
      @DubsTV93 Год назад +44

      @@WattPheasantBlaire was constantly attacked from the beginning. This video isn’t chronologically edited, the first question they actually had was about trans military. When they sat down, blossom and the others immediately attacked Blaire about not being grassroots & saying she’s done nothing for the community. Then threatened her, that’s how this panel STARTED.

  • @Dara-ih6jq
    @Dara-ih6jq Год назад +1622

    How do you compare dropping out of school to getting surgery? You can literally always go back and get your GED. You can’t go back after surgery. That was a horrible comparison because one of them is permanent and the other is not.

    • @daze7465
      @daze7465 Год назад +50

      Exactly lmaooo

    • @ktharias84
      @ktharias84 Год назад +45

      I was thinking about that! I'm surprised that nobody responded like that. You can always go back to school if you decide to, but surgeries are not the same.

    • @dominiquerobinson347
      @dominiquerobinson347 Год назад +11

      Ya my thoughts exactly. Someone should have said that

    • @boringmonkey6958
      @boringmonkey6958 Год назад +41

      Let's be real here, the ONLY reason he made that comparison was because it was another way for him to bring up, YET AGAIN, that he was homeless and dropped out of school at 16. That's the only reason. I don't think he even believes what he said, it was just another way to railroad the conversation to keep banging on about how much of a victim he is.

    • @Munchie_ASMR
      @Munchie_ASMR Год назад +9

      Exactly and I was so mad that rebuttal was not raised. Similarly to many itber points and this is exactly why I am still convinced we are not wrong to say sex boils down to simply male and female and anything in between is an individuals own perception and feelings. They should be go about their lives socially like no different to a person who choses to be different like wearing gothic clothes, drive a Toyota, etc... cause we're all different, but influencing the majority of society to change for their minority personal feelings bring about so much chaos at best and danger at worst.

  • @nursejenny8717
    @nursejenny8717 29 дней назад +9

    Children don't have the mental capacity or stability to decide they should transition. You should be an adult.

  • @leticiadiaz5088
    @leticiadiaz5088 Год назад +909

    The moment blossom threatened Blaire she should have been removed from this debate. That’s ridiculously unprofessional and unacceptable.

    • @KuroItami
      @KuroItami Год назад +56

      it's crazy nobody acknowledged that

    • @leftthatbehind6090
      @leftthatbehind6090 Год назад +1

      @@KuroItamitime Mark?

    • @julannelly
      @julannelly Год назад +28

      ​​@@leftthatbehind6090 I think it was cut out but multiple people have come forward about it. She supposedly threatened her early on to (paraphrasing) watch herself because she's got her people outside.

    • @CobwebsEdits
      @CobwebsEdits Год назад

      @@leftthatbehind6090 29:26 around that time Blossom said something like, “Glad you body guard is outside.” Though yeah, they may have cut most of it out.

    • @zempasuchitl88
      @zempasuchitl88 Год назад

      @@leftthatbehind6090 29:31

  • @ambersagebeckhorn
    @ambersagebeckhorn Год назад +934

    Sara really did that. She made valid and educated points based on fact rather than feeling

    • @user-ij3yf7nr4q
      @user-ij3yf7nr4q Год назад +34

      Yes, though Sarah really didn't get a lot of time to speak.

    • @aorekagaming412
      @aorekagaming412 Год назад +79

      @@user-ij3yf7nr4q That's why they need to stop inviting Blossom, so everyone else can speak.

    • @chipl336
      @chipl336 Год назад +17

      I really enjoyed listening to Sara too, which they would have given her more time

    • @Kamalu0nalani
      @Kamalu0nalani Год назад +13

      @@user-ij3yf7nr4q Sadly those who make valid and educated points are NOT what they want that's why they always cut their comments like they did with Blairs. If you go to Blairs' acct, she will tell you everything that happened.

    • @user-ij3yf7nr4q
      @user-ij3yf7nr4q Год назад

      @@Kamalu0nalani I know, already watched Blaire's response videos :-)
      I agree with your assessment. But it's still sad this happens, isn't it?

  • @misakiXmei
    @misakiXmei Год назад +2563

    not blossom turning it into a race issue just to get heard as if she wasn’t interrupting everyone herself 💀 I‘m saying this as a black woman - this is supposed to be a fair debate so don’t shout race just to make your voice weigh more

    • @kareenaemerson5810
      @kareenaemerson5810 Год назад +111

      literally. Stop the victim mentality blossom.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule Год назад +52

      Preferred pronouns are a curtesy. Males (however they identify) who are out here happy oppressing women and girls don’t deserve “she” as far as I’m concerned. My response to them is “if empathy and curtesy is so important, you do it first”.

    • @johnnyappleseed5590
      @johnnyappleseed5590 Год назад +30

      It’s a he not a she.

    • @vivi20667
      @vivi20667 Год назад +65

      Especially considering she’s pretty much arguing she’s more of a victim than the guy who literally has HIV and drug addicts as parents. He clearly has a huge disadvantage in life and still manages to be a lot more respectful than her. She always has to be listened to because of her skin color, but his opinion doesn’t matter because he’s conservative.

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker Год назад +36

      the victim mentality is strong in that guy, "don't interrupt a black transwoman" so privilege to go White House, but claimed to be oppressed

  • @alexandrajucal213
    @alexandrajucal213 Месяц назад +11

    There’s a reason why you get id when you go on bars for alcohol. The brain stops maturing when they are 21. Talk to your biology teachers. Same as when you decide if you decide to transition. I have a son who is gay/bisexual, the onyl thing I want him to worry is not getting into trouble, being free, and get education because that is something that can’t be stilen from you. Prepare your kids for making choices that may influence on how they see their reality. Prepare them for the real world first!