Product Review, Woodshield Posts - The End of Toxic CCA Pine?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This week I review a great Australian product from Woodshield. Pine fence posts are known for lightness, ease of use and price. Durability unfortunately comes at a heavy price, with environmentally damaging chemicals used to treat them and stop early rot. Woodshield may have overcome this with a coating of recycled plastic polymer. Combining the lightness and strength of wood with the durability of plastic, these posts promise the best of both worlds. In this video I put them through their paces, using machinery to install posts in rocky ground, building a box end assembly and then filling a post full of staples, screws and wire then leaving it in a dam for a few weeks to see if it holds up.
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Around 2 years ago I picked up 154 posts(1.8m and 2.4m) from Bunnings in Bendigo for $2 each. They were getting rid of them for whatever reason.
Their loss my gain. Very nice posts they are. Still havent used them on the farm as yet.
There's that much pinus radiata on the market right now.. it's not funny.
The only small drawback is the lifecycle of polypropylene. Plastic suffers with ultraviolet light and polypropilene in particular. The proof is in the UV treatment. The good thing about them is that it is completely recyclable. It can be easily chewed by some steel chew jaws, separating wood and plastic. The wood can be made into pellets and the plastic reused.
Tim , very interesting.have to invest in an augar to get a decent depth with post driver as always have pointed posts available here , cheers from UK
Look at Power Planter from Aussie Gardens!!
So one little nick in the poli and water gets in and the post rots faster than any post u have used. If that doesn’t happen they should last a long time.
Great product....and no insulation for electric fencing needed!!!!
That's the biggest advantage!
Should be stronger than a plain wood post the same diameter. All the grain is held together and controlled.
Had a local manufacture of posts like this years ago in 4x4, 2x6, and 6x6 on the US. Didn't go to well. To much moisture trapped in the wood through the process. Really bad warpage in the field after awhile.
Thank you for the demo. I've just purchased a couple of these to make an old fashioned clothes line, the fence clips are brilliant to hold the wires without ruining the integrity of the posts, what would you suggest to hold the swiveling cross bars that have the wires attached? Regards, Rhonda
Excellent review on another great Australian made fencing product Tim! Very informative and entertaining seeing you having fun with your videos. I think there will be a few horse people (amongst others) that might find these a serious option to consider for a few reasons.
Just an idea if you really must use staples on these plastic coated posts maybe predrill a pilot hole could be a better seal, I love the concept of these posts, and the use of recycled plastics.
Hey Tim, once again a great demonstration of Aussie enginuity.
Just as a matter of interest, is the fire rating higher or lower than a standard pine post?
Fantastic. When can we get them in USA?
Couldn't you give the area around the staples a quick blast from a butane torch to melt closed, people still like using staples.
I'm making my garden beds with H4. I'll paint the inside with brushable bitumen hydrosealer and linseed oil the exterior to be on the safe side. Although, I think you would probably get more arsenic eating a bag of prawns at Christmas.
😅 yep.
Seems like it would work pretty well as long as the protective sleeve stay intact. I wonder if a similar product is available in the US? Also, is that fancy vibrating post driver available in US?
Another great video Tim. Tell me, could you heat the plastic around the staple to shrink the plastic?
Just another thought as well Tim, if using these for end electric posts would there be any need to use insulators given the water would just slick off them?
Hi Tim, any issues with the surface temperature of the black posts on 35 - 40c days?
Yep. They will get hot to handle
Looks like a great product. Thanks for showing us these posts..
Wondering how the polly coating stands up to high tensile wire tied off on a strainer post ? Is there potential for the wire to cut into the coating and damage it ?
Enjoying the videos. Dave.
Wire has not damaged these strainer posts. It's pretty tough stuff.
@@FarmLearningTim Thanks Tim.
Looks like a product I would like to try. Dave.
amazing product, i recon a drop of silicone on the staple and no water would ever get in ! hopefully available nationwide soon
Great product review. Thanks, Tim. Need to chase my local stockists for them.
what a great product
Anyone here used them?
Love EM. Can I buy them in Qld?
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Gday Tim, have you guys look at concrete posts like what ACP make? www.concreteposts.com.au/
great product we have been using here in NSW for a few years now. loving them
We found a different outcome, the posts we drove and pulled out were damaged at the bottom and the top from the driver, the top looked messy but probably still water out but the bottom was to the pine.
mind you we drive both ends of our assembly in 1100mm and the intermediate posts were in 900mm.
The other issues I was wondering about were the UV damage on the polyprop .
Without the treatment any water will damage the pine very quick and the end in the ground will have moisture to deal with.
Our solution was to drill bigger holes and pack strainer posts with a crow bar instead of driving them the intermediate posts we still drove just with a bigger pilot hole to lower the friction. Was a tonne more labour, next time I would use steel or hardwood strainer assembly's if a client wants these
Great feedback
Tim i love your work, lots of great info and product tests most people have no idea
@@kierenlewin1510 thanks mate. I always try to be positive and practical.
Tim, if you are looking for a post hole digget, look at Power planter by Aussie gardener. Just brilliant and sooo easy to use. Will save your back for sure:)
Be carful touching the pine post without Chemical resistant gloves I’ve gotten pine stain on my hands and it doesn’t come off for many days without using steel wool
I honestly don't mind calling the post Dave, us Daves have a thick skin...
Fence posts here in Western Washington state often rot at the ground surface.
Hey Del, I'm here in Western WA as well. I'm planning on putting up 4'x8' hog wire panel fence. These posts look interesting but im wondering if I'll be able to get them here. Have you looked into it?
@@toddburdick1 There's a product called poly21 that can be applied which polymerizes. Seems to work but product must be used within two days before it hardens completely.
Wishing these Australian products were available in The States
Would heating up the screws securing the David fencing clips (prior to drilling into the plastic coating on the wood post) result in an even better water resistant seal, or is the seal demonstrated in this video more than sufficient?
Seems like a pretty good product and not much difference in price from a regular treated pine post. You might want to do some tests too with driving gate hinges/latch chains on there too (like regular hoops and clamp on assemblies). Although I think the futures still in steel and Gal posts.
As always it comes down to cost.
Condensation would rot the pine in the plastic.. surely.
Your Beard is coming along nicely brother.. THis stuff sounds great...
burning cca posts not a good idea
great idea , the plastic coating wouldnt last ramming the ground here the stones would tear it to bits
Hi Tim who makes the stay pins with the head on them please?
I bought them at my local hardware a few years back. Afraid I’ve got no idea!
@@FarmLearningTim Thanks for the reply Tim. After much googling and some lateral thinking with the search terms I found these. They look similar I think. Paslode 200 x 9mm 5kg Galvanised Decking Spikes.
I read about you on the ABC news site and down the rabbit hole I went. Love what your doing for Australian Ag industries.
Cheers
Andrew
Tim, we bought a Baumr Ag post hole digger for 500 aud and it's been very solid till now. Just replace the cheap Chinese spark plug.
Yep the cheap machines are starting to get very good for occasional use. I have a few cheapies too!
hi tim from scotland the plastic post look nice .and what price r thay
As always amazing video I’ll be getting some for sure
Great new product .
I have never been a fan of coppers logs . They just don’t have a good life span as well as they’re toxicity and not nearly as strong as hard wood. Why do people use them rather than timber from your own farm ? Some of the ironbark split log fences still standing are 100 years old !
Would love see you do a video covering the pro’s and con’s of traditional timber posts .
Thanks Andre
Cheers mate. I’ll keep it in mind
Bloody great video Tim, subscribed 👍🏻
Tim, at the summary of this video I can see this big round red patch on your lower left jean leg - about where your left shin is - it looks like its blood and recent (in fact, like its still seeping) - what’s the go? p.s. love the practical information your videos provide and the clear way in which you present it.
I’m sure, as I do, we all have a lot of fun watching them... I’m about to retire to a small 1ha property and it’s videos like yours that stop us city folk from otherwise making dumb mistakes... thank you.
2 great ideas those fencing clips are exactly what the dr ordered good job Tim
Sharp looking box end Tim! Just wondering when you would use cement with posts? I’m fixing some fences on my property in Kangaroo Ground and thought I would need cement for the box ends? Great product. I’ll give it a try!
Cheers mate!
If someone produced special ready holders for fixing, creating fences without drilling in them, they could really be long-lived :)
best regards
Could you use a T-Clamp? (Hose)
How could you best utilise this product with electric fencing without having to still purchase and use insulators? I cant think of a way ... U Nails would still earth once driven in to the post... using Daves fencing clips same thing .... is there no way around still having to use a third product?!
@@FarmLearningTim Thanks for replying! I'm probably not explaining myself clearly ... Im trying to think of a way that you could make the most out of the fact that the whole post is already effectively insulated. But in order to secure the wire/tape/rope to the post your breaking the insulation by the metal object being driven into the post which goes through the insulation into the wood ....But given the entire piece of wood is insulated does that mean that it then doesnt 'earth' out and is the length of wire is still conductive?
I appreciate that the insulators on daves clips are cost effective and readily available, but thats still yet another piece of plastic/insulator .... which was what i was trying to avoid..
Do i make sense?? sorry! Convoluted girl theory happening here!
Tie them
How much weight did Dave gain?
Love seeing how things are made👍
Great video Tim...thanks mate !!
How to drill through em
LOVE the beard Tim!!!!!
What's the cost?
Will barb scratch em
I saw those clips at Tatura dairy week. The only problem is lv been using heavy steel post
The beard is looking spot on mate
Them fence staples / securing loops are really really cool I think a video on them to show cost difference overall and longevity of the securing loop they look easier to re use and I think may save the post a bit more. ??
Legend awesome
Be careful, product splits after a year and a half
Can you please send photos?
What do these guys cost?
Link to them on my website
What is the price difference between the black post to a normal pine