We shot some Super 8mm in Greece last year and the results were incredible....50D film of course. I was able to inject the results in my larger film (which was digital) and the results were incredible....it was a nice change of pace and in the bright Grecian sun the results were breathtaking.
Nice job! But I'm getting tempted to take the ancient 8mm camera down off the shelf and see if it can be made to work with current film. I really don't need another film obsession but you made it SO INTERESTING ! My dad went on a trip to SoCal in the 50's and it was recorded on this camera. The Super 8 we got later was smashed by mom Mom in the 80s when it screwed up a couple rolls of film in a row. Expensive and emotionally upsetting.
so happy to have found your channel! your videos have helped me decide on which film to buy for my camera and I’m super excited to test it. I purchased my first roll of 50D from Niagara Custom Labs, I’ll be sending it there for processing as well 😄 your results look great. if you’re also from Toronto, do you have any recommendations for places to repair/refurbish film cameras? I got a 8mm that I’d like to get looked at and possibly repaired. again, thank you for your informative videos!!
Nice videos! I just discovered you today and alredy watched all the super 8 and 16mm videos. Great content and really well explained, Im learning a lot! Could you make a video about more professional/advanced super 8 cameras? I alredy shooted with a Canon 514xl but Im thinking about moving to something less automatic like the canon 1014xl or the nizo 6080, so would be nice to hear your toughts!
I'd go for the Canon 1014. The Nizos are great cameras, but in my experience, they're notoriously delicate. If it weren't for that, I'd highly recommend the 6080; I've shot with it before, and it would be my next choice if I couldn't have the 1014 or a Beaulieu 7008.
I have had my S8 projectors, cameras, and editing equipment stored in the cupboard for years. So inspired to buy some more cartridges ... question is will I get negative or reversal? I enjoy NLE and color grading, but also projecting. Maybe I should purchase reversal and use my telecine converter like I used to do?
As always, great video. But: 1. I laughed 'meself to bits on the Patreon levels, named after film formats. 2. By signing up for the Small Gauge level, do you still get access to the full rolls? Either A) it should come as no surprise, and follows with any of the three levels, or B) it falls under point two of medium format.
@@AnalogResurgence tenor.com/view/chirs-farley-shocked-what-huh-omg-gif-4108687 If i can get my parents in on it, and make shit work, that's a new patron for ya!
I'm a bit of a fan... ;-; ruclips.net/video/B2-LesvXOcM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YyHkv5Daq9M/видео.html ruclips.net/video/5RmuQkeTxrI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/SSJosqg6wA4/видео.html
I have a question if I buy this Kodak film package will it come with multiple ones or just one ? Because it’s quite expensive and also the camera only does short videos right like 3 min but how do people have a whole film shot with it if it only makes 3min 😅
Wondering about Super8 dynamic range: How many stops from metered middle grey can handle, let's say, KODAK VISION3 50D Color Negative ? How do you normally meter if you want to preserve highlights / shadows ? Thanks !
Have you ever tried the Agfa microflex 300? I've seen a couple of those on ebay, i was wondering if the image they produce is nice...Thanks, anyway, for this amazing contents!
I would avoid it, that model is only able to expose for 40iso film (many old cameras worked best with Kodachrome 40). This means you'll be limited when shooting the film available today. Kodak's 50D will work fine, but ones such as 200T and 500T will be over-exposed by quite a bit
I have a query and wonder if you know anything about this. I filmed some Super 8 footage at 24fps. However, I forgot to note this to the lab and they automatically scanned it in at 18fps. Now I have adjusted the speed in premiere and it was somewhat successful but still results in jerky footage. Some of the footage is silent and it would be good to be able to give it the 18fps look but the other stuff I was recording audio onto a TASCAM and the change in speed has affected it. Other than getting it scanned again for £50 each do you have any suggestions? Thanks
I guess you've resolved this by now (being from 3 years ago), but thought I'd add my experience, which may help others here. Recently, I digitised several hours of Super 8 film from the 70's/80's for a friend. I projected the films using a Eumig 614D projector and filmed the projected image at 1080p with my iPhone 13 Pro Max using the Filmic Pro app. With this app I was able to capture at 18 fps - the standard Super 8 frame rate, and the frame rate used by the projector. Additionally, I was able to set the aspect ratio to 4:3, the same as Super 8. This process resulted in no flicker. I imported the video files to Final Cut Pro on my M1 Mac mini and set up a 1080p timeline at 25 fps. Final Cut Pro automatically conformed the video to 25 fps by adding extra frames intermittently - so, for each one second of footage, 7 frames were added. I also did some colour grading and sharpening. The results were surprisingly smooth, with no stutter or flickering. I am very happy with the outcome, and happy that I saved a friend from having to use a processing facility.
Hi Buddy it looks like my kodak vision 3 film won't roll, like it is stuck. Is there a way to solve this? The motor of my Canon 512xl does spin round though. I hope you can help I have a wedding today all the best from the netherlands Holland.
I have a a kodak zoom 8 reflex and it takes film spool.. i tried looking on the database you posted in link but it's honestly just overwhelming i couldn't find my camera.. does anyone know where I can buy film roll thats not squared but on a round spool?
That camera takes Regular 8mm film and not Super 8 film that I show in this video. You can learn about 8mm film that comes on a spool in this video: ruclips.net/video/VdU9u-uqCJE/видео.html
Sorry just realised you have answered this below. So when there is non-tungsten film in the camera the tungsten switch on the side of the camera is disabled?
You won't have to worry about it. There's no filter notch on daylight film, so when you put it in the cam, the filter automatically gets taken out of the way.
I would have used some of this by now if it had not been for a roll of 500T not taking. I "filmed" an entire roll to find that my camera's finger had torn a hole between two sprocket holes and so had not in fact moved it since the first shot. I think the clutch on the main drive wheel is slipping just too much to push the reel past the tightness of the first couple of feet, so the camera's useless now and those memories (including an irreplaceable stop motion sequence) are gone :(
This will not be due to your camera, but to a perforation error in the punching of the film material. I've had that before. I also had a cassette with the 50D with difficulties with film transport. I then tested the cassette on my other 5 cameras, always the same result - it was due to the mechanics of the cassette itself. Tip: take a waterproof pen and make a small line on the film, pick up, take out, check. If the mark is gone, it has pulled through the film. You only waste 6 frames, but you have the guarantee that the picture was taken.
@@AnalogResurgence oh thank god haha I was just watching a bunch of y35 reviews and I thought it came back to haunt me in an Analog Resurgence video 😂 great work as always!!
Analog Resurgence thanks for the reply. Glad to hear you like it. I’m in the process of getting one myself (after a couple of Canons died on me recently). Finding reliable super 8 cameras is getting harder and harder. They’re all now way too old...
@@AnalogResurgence I loved using the Nizo cameras but I had really bad luck with them. I shot with the 6080 and owned a couple of the Integrals, but they always seemed kinda fragile to me. But the lenses were incredible, especially on the 6080.
is that really significant? I remember in an overcast day with window light- there is not enough light for a 50D @18fps. And i have an XL camera even [the Minolta XL601] which is supposed to introduce more light . You really need to shoot in a sunny day
eladbari two thirds a stop *can* be significant. But mostly when you are using natural/existing light. If you are shooting a planned shoot, you put it when there is enough light or bring your own. I think originally the 15 fps standard was a compromise to get the price of entry way down. Less film used, smaller lenses needed, and the opportunity to sell lamps if people wanted to shoot indoors.
Here ruclips.net/video/3Nh9BTMWj9M/видео.html can you watch the fine quality of 50 D. It is "only" shown digitized in 2K, 4K again has an improved image quality. As you can see, the footage is perfect. You also have to use a good camera. The quality of the 1970s cameras fluctuates greatly. One indication: cameras with 24 fps usually have the best lenses.
We shot some Super 8mm in Greece last year and the results were incredible....50D film of course. I was able to inject the results in my larger film (which was digital) and the results were incredible....it was a nice change of pace and in the bright Grecian sun the results were breathtaking.
Is it strange I spend my mornings before school eating mini wheats and watching this?
I think it would be strange if you didn’t
You look like a young George Lucas in those shots.
True 😄
Thanks Noa.
I’m not interested in 8mm or Super8, but always is a pleasure learn new things with you.
I love this channel so much! Keep up the good work!
I would love some tests of 16mm film
not wishing to plug anything I do but you can see 16mm stuff on my vimeo vimeo.com/stephenperera
Nice job! But I'm getting tempted to take the ancient 8mm camera down off the shelf and see if it can be made to work with current film. I really don't need another film obsession but you made it SO INTERESTING ! My dad went on a trip to SoCal in the 50's and it was recorded on this camera.
The Super 8 we got later was smashed by mom Mom in the 80s when it screwed up a couple rolls of film in a row. Expensive and emotionally upsetting.
Awesome! Ready for 200T for the next Super 8 roll review.
so happy to have found your channel! your videos have helped me decide on which film to buy for my camera and I’m super excited to test it. I purchased my first roll of 50D from Niagara Custom Labs, I’ll be sending it there for processing as well 😄 your results look great.
if you’re also from Toronto, do you have any recommendations for places to repair/refurbish film cameras? I got a 8mm that I’d like to get looked at and possibly repaired. again, thank you for your informative videos!!
Nice videos! I just discovered you today and alredy watched all the super 8 and 16mm videos. Great content and really well explained, Im learning a lot! Could you make a video about more professional/advanced super 8 cameras? I alredy shooted with a Canon 514xl but Im thinking about moving to something less automatic like the canon 1014xl or the nizo 6080, so would be nice to hear your toughts!
I'd go for the Canon 1014. The Nizos are great cameras, but in my experience, they're notoriously delicate. If it weren't for that, I'd highly recommend the 6080; I've shot with it before, and it would be my next choice if I couldn't have the 1014 or a Beaulieu 7008.
What lens did you use in this video? The chromatic aberration and blur in the edges of the frame look exactly like what was used on analogue cameras
Would love to see kodak ektachrome super 8!
I have had my S8 projectors, cameras, and editing equipment stored in the cupboard for years.
So inspired to buy some more cartridges ... question is will I get negative or reversal? I enjoy NLE and color grading, but also projecting.
Maybe I should purchase reversal and use my telecine converter like I used to do?
you could spend the extra cash to get a print done of your negatives, if you find a lab which still does it for s8
6:22 sorry, what was the name of the website? Film... What?
www.filmkorn.org/super8data/
@@AnalogResurgence well thank you!
Super8wiki is also very useful @@shadelz3305
love so much your videos! from Spain thanks for all the info
Im so thanfull for your videos man, its hard to get this info
I bought a Braun Nizo 136 and can't find any info on it for what film I can use since I can't find any 25 or 100 asa film
Does this mean that my Canon Autozoom 518 sv, cannot automatically ISO control a 50D Cartridge? :(
As always, great video. But:
1. I laughed 'meself to bits on the Patreon levels, named after film formats.
2. By signing up for the Small Gauge level, do you still get access to the full rolls?
Either A) it should come as no surprise, and follows with any of the three levels, or B) it falls under point two of medium format.
The full roll samples are available to everyone on the Patreon to check out for any of the levels!
@@AnalogResurgence tenor.com/view/chirs-farley-shocked-what-huh-omg-gif-4108687
If i can get my parents in on it, and make shit work, that's a new patron for ya!
This is awesome man. If you ever get the chance (or the funds) would love to see some Ektachrome!
I'm a bit of a fan... ;-;
ruclips.net/video/B2-LesvXOcM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/YyHkv5Daq9M/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/5RmuQkeTxrI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/SSJosqg6wA4/видео.html
I have a question if I buy this Kodak film package will it come with multiple ones or just one ? Because it’s quite expensive and also the camera only does short videos right like 3 min but how do people have a whole film shot with it if it only makes 3min 😅
Wondering about Super8 dynamic range: How many stops from metered middle grey can handle, let's say, KODAK VISION3 50D Color Negative ?
How do you normally meter if you want to preserve highlights / shadows ? Thanks !
Have you ever tried the Agfa microflex 300? I've seen a couple of those on ebay, i was wondering if the image they produce is nice...Thanks, anyway, for this amazing contents!
I would avoid it, that model is only able to expose for 40iso film (many old cameras worked best with Kodachrome 40). This means you'll be limited when shooting the film available today. Kodak's 50D will work fine, but ones such as 200T and 500T will be over-exposed by quite a bit
Looking for super 8 with sound track, heard you might still be able to pick it up in the states, any ideas?
I have 4 rolls I’m looking to get rid of if your interested.
@@mileswilson1315 are they squared or on a film spool?
What is the website with the data base called? Film corn is what I heard, but doesn’t show up on a search.
www.filmkorn.org/super8data/
Got it, thank you very much!
where can you buy this KODAK vision3 50d? Please help me
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/920144-REG/kodak_1738053_vision3_50d_7203_clr.html
filmphotographystore.com/products/super-8-film-kodak-50d-color-negative
www.spectrafilmandvideo.com
I have a query and wonder if you know anything about this. I filmed some Super 8 footage at 24fps. However, I forgot to note this to the lab and they automatically scanned it in at 18fps. Now I have adjusted the speed in premiere and it was somewhat successful but still results in jerky footage. Some of the footage is silent and it would be good to be able to give it the 18fps look but the other stuff I was recording audio onto a TASCAM and the change in speed has affected it. Other than getting it scanned again for £50 each do you have any suggestions? Thanks
I guess you've resolved this by now (being from 3 years ago), but thought I'd add my experience, which may help others here. Recently, I digitised several hours of Super 8 film from the 70's/80's for a friend. I projected the films using a Eumig 614D projector and filmed the projected image at 1080p with my iPhone 13 Pro Max using the Filmic Pro app. With this app I was able to capture at 18 fps - the standard Super 8 frame rate, and the frame rate used by the projector. Additionally, I was able to set the aspect ratio to 4:3, the same as Super 8. This process resulted in no flicker. I imported the video files to Final Cut Pro on my M1 Mac mini and set up a 1080p timeline at 25 fps. Final Cut Pro automatically conformed the video to 25 fps by adding extra frames intermittently - so, for each one second of footage, 7 frames were added. I also did some colour grading and sharpening. The results were surprisingly smooth, with no stutter or flickering. I am very happy with the outcome, and happy that I saved a friend from having to use a processing facility.
where can I buy it in Europe?
Does anyone know if the 814 can expose 50D or 500T?
I wonder if you could mod a super 8 camera to make the motor more unprecise to give you that jittering unreliable lighting?
Hi Buddy it looks like my kodak vision 3 film won't roll, like it is stuck. Is there a way to solve this? The motor of my Canon 512xl does spin round though. I hope you can help I have a wedding today all the best from the netherlands Holland.
If you take the cartridge out and give it a few firm taps that might get things moving again!
@@AnalogResurgence by hand winding the cassete you mean? Thats not possible so it feels like it is stuck. Or do you mean something els?
I have a a kodak zoom 8 reflex and it takes film spool.. i tried looking on the database you posted in link but it's honestly just overwhelming i couldn't find my camera.. does anyone know where I can buy film roll thats not squared but on a round spool?
That camera takes Regular 8mm film and not Super 8 film that I show in this video. You can learn about 8mm film that comes on a spool in this video:
ruclips.net/video/VdU9u-uqCJE/видео.html
@@AnalogResurgence bro bro bro bro thank you so much for replying so fast
If shooting this film outside in daylight in a Canon 514 should you have the tungsten filter switch set to sunlight mode or light bulb mode?
Sorry just realised you have answered this below. So when there is non-tungsten film in the camera the tungsten switch on the side of the camera is disabled?
Yup with most super 8 cameras when daylight film is in the daylight filter is cancelled out and can’t be used!
You won't have to worry about it. There's no filter notch on daylight film, so when you put it in the cam, the filter automatically gets taken out of the way.
He looks like Canadian Actor Jay Baruchel.
I would have used some of this by now if it had not been for a roll of 500T not taking.
I "filmed" an entire roll to find that my camera's finger had torn a hole between two sprocket holes and so had not in fact moved it since the first shot. I think the clutch on the main drive wheel is slipping just too much to push the reel past the tightness of the first couple of feet, so the camera's useless now and those memories (including an irreplaceable stop motion sequence) are gone :(
This will not be due to your camera, but to a perforation error in the punching of the film material. I've had that before. I also had a cassette with the 50D with difficulties with film transport. I then tested the cassette on my other 5 cameras, always the same result - it was due to the mechanics of the cassette itself. Tip: take a waterproof pen and make a small line on the film, pick up, take out, check. If the mark is gone, it has pulled through the film. You only waste 6 frames, but you have the guarantee that the picture was taken.
Is that the horrendous Yashica Y35 on the left side of the screen
Konica C35!
@@AnalogResurgence oh thank god haha I was just watching a bunch of y35 reviews and I thought it came back to haunt me in an Analog Resurgence video 😂 great work as always!!
How do you like the Nizo?
I like it so far! It’s one of their more basic models but has manual exposure controls on it along with 24fps so I can use it reliably for projects.
Analog Resurgence thanks for the reply. Glad to hear you like it. I’m in the process of getting one myself (after a couple of Canons died on me recently). Finding reliable super 8 cameras is getting harder and harder. They’re all now way too old...
@@AnalogResurgence I loved using the Nizo cameras but I had really bad luck with them. I shot with the 6080 and owned a couple of the Integrals, but they always seemed kinda fragile to me. But the lenses were incredible, especially on the 6080.
How many minutes per roll
uuumm....
ruclips.net/video/wR3_SmS6sn8/видео.html
Lower frame rates will allow you to shoot at lower light levels.
is that really significant? I remember in an overcast day with window light- there is not enough light for a 50D @18fps. And i have an XL camera even [the Minolta XL601] which is supposed to introduce more light . You really need to shoot in a sunny day
eladbari two thirds a stop *can* be significant.
But mostly when you are using natural/existing light.
If you are shooting a planned shoot, you put it when there is enough light or bring your own.
I think originally the 15 fps standard was a compromise to get the price of entry way down.
Less film used, smaller lenses needed, and the opportunity to sell lamps if people wanted to shoot indoors.
Here ruclips.net/video/3Nh9BTMWj9M/видео.html can you watch the fine quality of 50 D. It is "only" shown digitized in 2K, 4K again has an improved image quality. As you can see, the footage is perfect. You also have to use a good camera. The quality of the 1970s cameras fluctuates greatly. One indication: cameras with 24 fps usually have the best lenses.
in europe this thing costs about 50 euros just to buy without develpment and lasts 2-3 mins.The whole thing with super 8 is a joke.