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Makes me wanna crawl under a rock when I think of how I was eating as a vegetarian/vegan😱. I was that person eating loads and loads of nuts. Almost 4 years animal foods eater now. All gut issues gone. All skin issues gone. My receding gum grew back beautifully. No more crashes and the need for daily siestas. No more constant hunger!! 1-2 meals a day. My food bill is so much lower now.
We own and run a family butchers since 1973. I'm carnivore and have always done extreme sports (I'm now 50). However, we are slowly going bankrupt due to the lies that the medical industry, along with MSM and government are telling people in regards to the product we sell. It literally drives me crazy how misinformed and naive the general public are. Over the next decade meat will disappear completely unless farmers, retail outlets and people in the meat trade have a huge push back to save the only nutrient dense food source on the planet. MEAT to live.
I mean they literally want people to eat insects so... No joke, they're now force feeding it to kids as part of their cafeteria menus in some Western countries
MONTH 2 UPDATE: So I began eating strictly carnivore for the first couple weeks. I started June 27th. Prior to this I had dairy and gluten intolerance, also have allergic reactions to mushrooms, potatoes, beans, rice, literally almost everything, oats, gluten free oats. Weight 94lbs at 5’6 female. Extremely frail, and malnourished. Skin issues, hair issues, digestive issues, while eating EXTREMELY “clean” diet. Anyways, after the first couple weeks, I noticed skin improvements, my scalp was finally producing sebum, I always had a dry scalp. I started eating grass fed yogurt and kefir just for probiotics, then I noticed I was really improving because I was allergic to dairy before and now I’m able to eat it without problems. I started eating RAW cheese made from unpasteurized milk. I now weight 105lbs! I gained 11lbs, majority is muscle that I need for my height, and normal amount of fat for a female. My natural frame is slowly being rebuilt because I was SO underweight. I noticed that I have a different body odour, it’s not as strong, it almost smells like what normal sweat should smell like. I don’t even use deodorant as much as I used to, l really don’t need it. Also my period cramps have reduced DRASTICALLY, wasn’t even expecting something like that to change. My eyebrows also got fuller, I don’t know if it’s due to the way I’m eating or because I use beef tallow as my facial moisturizer now. Either way animal based is the route to take. Anyways, I’ll update anymore changes next month.
How did u add the dairy back in? I love dairy especially cheese but I get gassy if I have even raw hard cheeses I think due to the (casein) protein sensitivity
I love that Dr. Chaffee allows his guest to express his knowledge, ask follow up questions and not try to stir the conversation towards the carnivore diet 👏🏻
I came here from a Ken Berry interview with the man, because I couldn't stand it anymore, the constant interrupting and giving his own opinion about it... Then saw this one in the recommended video list and instantly clicked. I love both in their own capacity, but regarding interviews, Chaffee is king. Almost like an interested student not wanting to miss anything.
Re bloods, I have friends always suggesting I have them done especially cholesterol. I have been carnivore for twelve months and feel amazing and as fit as a fiddle. Is this something I should be worried about?
@@ann-mariecoombes632 no not at all. Cholesterol and saturated fat are good for you. Watch this to find out the truth of the matter: ruclips.net/video/UbFXqjABIvo/видео.html
@@ann-mariecoombes632 How old are you??? Yearly physical is good for anyone. If you are young and are a fat adapted fat burner on carnivore, should have stellar labs. No sign of metabolic syndrome. Cholesterol, LDL is the least thing you should worry about. Learn about this as you may be fighting that battle with doctors for the rest of your life.
I have a resin duplicate of the first stone tool, too. Hold on, let me get it. Schindler is always so much fun. I love how he brings so much child-like enthusiasm and passion to his work.
Absolutely fascinating conversation gentlemen! This was as badass as it gets. I am going to share this with everyone I know. This is some of the most important health information ever produced. Thank you both and bravo!
Love those t shirts :D I can't believe that was 100 minutes long! It flew by and felt like 20, 30 minutes tbh. SO engaging. There is nothing more entertaining than listening to experts who are so passionate about their research. Having studied anthropology and history at the graduate level, these are topics that are very near and dear to me :D I personally think this was one of the most interesting interviews from your channel so far! Thank you for another wonderful video :)
@@TerriblePerfection thank you Luann, I appreciate that. I'm very interested in what people like Dr Schindler have to say, so it's a pleasure for me to just listen.
I'm a regenerative farmer. It is so much easier to raise meat for the table than raising veg and fruit for people to eat. That said...we need the animal manure to grow the veg. Might as well just grow grass for cows...or goats or sheep.
Dr Bill is the man, I hunt with some of his former students, and they all love him. Thanks for the interview! Dr. Anthony, you will enjoy watching “the great human race”, it is terrific.
I saw a movie based for n the assumption that we did not know for a long time how to create fire. It’s called Quest for Fire (1982). The tribe had a man responsible for carrying the embers when they migrated. It’s one of those critically acclaimed movies that didn’t make it big at the box office and I’ve never seen it shown on other venues. Truly worth watching.
What an informative interview! Bill is so enthusiastic about what he speaks of that I can't help but to want to delve deeper into the topics in the video. Thank-you for doing this one, Anthony! 👍
Very interesting conversation! I've shared it on my Facebook profile. I'm always seeking for most natural way of living and eating... 8 months carnivore now and my health improved very much! Thank you all for doing such a great work and spreading the knowledge!
Excellent conversation! Love Dr Schindler’s enthusiasm and the 2 of you in your matching Tshirts look like fitness facility advertisements 😃 When corn and pellagra and Europe and Irish potato famine were brought up, I remembered learning about how Irish peasants did not historically experience famine nor dependence on one food stuff before the South American/New World potato was brought back to Europe. Of course, the Irish Potato Famine is a lot more complex with nefariousness and politics and manufacturing collapse. But a point can be made that when humans become dependent on one type of food, especially a nutritionally subpar plant food as toxic as say, potatoes, those humans then become easier to manipulate and starve. Thank you for the brain candy, gentlemen!
Gentlemen,fantastic conversation, we need much more of it, and thank you for discussing it. I have become a carnivore for 6 months BUT I was including peanut m&ms , stupid. SO I decided to really take charge and for the past week I’m a pure carnivore and doing a lot of stretching and my sore leg and back are feeling increasingly better. Thank you and keep it coming
This type of video is not something that I would usually listened/watched BUT found his talk very fascinating about his life, history and information about maze. Wow. I like that he said in the past we didn’t use the tools to hunt lettuce but animals, so true.
Another great show Having been largely raised as a meat eater in Africa when I was young I always knew it was the way to go but when I moved to the UK in my twenties I got sucked into the carb prison over time. The main problem I see with Dr Bill Schindler's take on the human diet is that it is largely based on the Evolutionary Biology view which in itself is yet another hypothesis as he says Archaeology is. I would prefer a more definite foundation. How about Devolutionary Biology? It would explain a lot more things
GREAT interview I like that way back then that people were "THRIVING" not just surviving and the fact that there are any humans left on planet earth was all due to their food source "MEAT" which I think was in great abundance and they had the skills & tools to hunt, you never just see one buffalo on its own, there was herds of them. it's amazing how every animal instinctivly knows what to eat, and the humans are stuggleing to remember what they once thrived on, and that in the wild there were no super markets of convenient pretend foods. I guess the tables are turning to our favour and we are now remembering and returning to how we use to eat.I'm sure we will live longer and happier lives when you can think about other things and not just about food all the time, in fact you just might need a timer to remind you that you need to eat, thats how satisfying meat is that you now have space and time to think about enjoying your life and really living.🥩🥓😋😂
Thank you Dr. Chaffee for bringing on your show Dr. Bill Schindler. We tend to wax poetic about an ancestral way of eating and living, and to many outside of the carnivore/paleo/ancestral community, they look at us as as if what we are saying is a distorted and romanticized version of our past. While there is some truth to that, there is a lot of science to backup our advocacy for emulating some of the dietary and lifestyle practices of our ancestors in our modern world. Dr. Schindler is a great resource to buttress the case for this idea.
Fascinating interview/talk. Effin luv Bill's attitude, passion and approach to his subjects of interest. I too have been thinking, for years now, that our hunter ancestors weren't merely surviving but thriving, due in part to their diet, but also to their social ways of living, and so on. Then, the agricultural revolution came, and, at least in my view, everything started going downhill, for humans, 'and' for the rest of the living and all ecosystems. So I'm glad that we as a species are rediscovering what made us who we are before the beginning of the fall, such as our species appropriate diet, etc. I hope we keep rediscovering our roots in all aspects of life so we start thriving once again as a species and also stop annihilating every other species...ok, enough or I'll just begin ranting on and on.😊
I agree with you. Cars have also been a huge negative factor, in my opinion. And these days I notice many children zipping around on electric scooters, worsening the already harmful effects of a more sedentary lifestyle. I wonder if any schools have experimented with standing desks...🤔
I'd like to get Bill's thoughts on John D. Speth and his lecture about the historical human diet. Thanks for the great video, Bill is a top guest, I love archaeology.
The seed company baker creek advertised a watermelon bred from melon seeds originally saved by ancient Native Americans (found by somebody else). Modern fruits and vegetables were hybridized over hundreds if not thousands of years, and did not exist millions of years ago before we ate grains and farmed. Even older paintings show watermelon that looks different from today.
Great discussion, as always. I'm glad that the fact that plants needs to be processed iin a certain way just to make them edible was brought up. And, just like the case of maize (corn), beans also must be processed before consuming (soak at least 12 hours, discard rinse water, and preferably repeat). But as Dr Schindler said, the food manufactures don't do that -- they just put the plant matter 'as is' in the manufactured "food" products that most people consume. No wonder all kinds of degenerative disease is rampant. But even if the plants are processed properly, they're still not something a human would want to consume. At least not in the insane large quantities that most people eat them these days.
About the Mayan eating corn ! the term “pygmies of Central America” The avg man was something like 5’2” and the women 4’8” Have heard many say was because of bad diet ? My time in Honduras the fish carvings in places like Copan and the locals I would talk to there many said river fish was a huge source of food for them along with coastal fishing ? The Paya or Pech of parts of honduras relied much more on meat and fish than the Corn again local folks from the University were saying they were larger than many of the other Mayan ? Have to now wonder if it was based more on the higher meat content of the northern Mayans ?
We too enjoy smoked meat. Ham, bacon are smoked. We smoke all sorts of meat and cheese..we do Hot smoke and cold.. Smoked fish is soo yum.. Our ancestors smoked meat.. Carnt be bad or we'd have died out.. Go for it.. Honeysuckle, Manuka, pohutukawa, oh so many different wood can be used.. New zealand..
Hi Dr. Chaffee! Thank you for everything you do. Should someone with kidney disease take caution when starting this diet? I have an auto immune disease that attacks my kidneys (nephrotic syndrome-FSGS). I did the diet for 2 weeks and stopped because I got nervous with some blood work showing liver and kidney function problems.
I would try to get in touch with Bart Kay. I bet at a minimum he would say don't just jump in. Take six to 8 weeks to remove plants. All at once has a tendency to be hard on people.
Wonderful point about archeologists from the past influenced then and still influencing today with the plant as a savior for war an such I think there is a deep in lying reason for that push whether it was the archeologist or what they were regurgitating back and their interpretations Wonderful talk I’m going to go watch the survival show he was talking about
absolutely loved this video, it makes so much sense and should be a mandatory part of a school curriculum. I learned a lot but slightly confused as a (correct me if I am wrong) true Carnivore diet does not include veggies at all.
As per the scientific definitions.. a carnivore is any creature that eats over 70% of its diet from animalia. Humans are definitely carnivores. Even coyotes will sometimes eat berries or something when it's around. That being said, most people getting on a carnivore diet have broken bodies and need to go to the extreme to reverse the damage.
This is fascinating, although I hold to a MUCH shorter timeline. When people claim the "Garden Of Eden" as an excuse to eat plants it shows that they have not read the Bible. God clearly tells us after the Flood that we are to eat meat.
I ate carnivore for 2 months. Eczema dissapeared and I felt stable. However, I hit a point where I was cold, had low energy, libido etc. i think I had low thyroid. So I added in under 100g carbs a day in form of fruit/tubers and that made me feel great again. But now I want to see if I was doing carnivore wrong. I think I maybe wasn’t eating enough fat to protein ratio, even though I was topping my steak and meat with butter, ghee, talllow to large amounts. Anyone have any pointers? Why did I have low thyroid symptoms that went away with the addition of low-moderate carbs??? Moreover, after listening to the bioenergetic side of diet, there’s the argument that gluconeogensis is a stressful state utilising cortisol Adrenaline and glucagon, a fallback mechanism for when you aren’t consuming any carbs. What do u guys think about this argument? Is it that if u have enough fat and not too much protein, you don’t need to dip into gluconeogensis due to burning ketones exclusively??? Any other info u think of please comment.
dr.Ted Naiman,says higher protein carnivore ,he doesn't agree with all the High Fatty carnivore debate.nor do others and Dr.Salisbury .leaner steaks are fine.
Modern ppl have a rather stressful life (chronic stress) therefore e.g. intermittent fasting and zero carb could have a negative effect on cortisol levels. Some carbs esp. consumed in the morning and around (hypertrophy) workouts could mitigate this issue. Since in the morning and after workout insulin sensitivity is highest (also due to GLUT4 mimicking insulin) that’s the best time to consume carbs (50 gr in the morning carbs with high GI and 50 -100gr after workouts mixed high and low GI carbs). In regards to T3 conversion insulin triggered by dietary carbs seem to play an important role. This is especially relevant for ppl with hypothyroidism - women are more sensitive in this aspect. If you wanna stay keto esp. carnivore it could help to make sure your electrolytes and iodine intake is sufficient. Also experiment with the amount of total calorie intake (not going below your active metabolism rate). Also make sure your fat/ protein ratio is on point - 70-80% of calories from fat. Make sure you’ve enough omega 3 (fatty fish). If you don’t wanna eat carbs on a daily base another option could be to do a carb refeed every other week. You’ve to experiment but give each approach enough time (some months or longer) to judge fairly. Dr Chaffee mentioned on multiple occasions that the fasted/ Keto metabolism is our natural state. Following this argument we have to become highly Keto adapted - your body after only two months is not there yet as it seems.
It took me several attempts to sort out there are several issues. Missing nutrients, electrolyte issues, cortisol. Meat doesn’t have all the needed nutrients and too much iron without Copper can be a real issue. I eat dairy, and some carbs to hold onto my electrolytes. Find your carb level, keep it low and no veggies. If all your organs don’t line up it’s very hard to go full Carnie. So you have to move slower and heal weak organs until you can go full Carnivore. Then make sure to supplement for missing nutrients or add foods.
I’m Im one of the few I know that has severe lactose intolerance. I had to bring lactase drops to school with me because like everyone else, I wanted to drink school chocolate milk. Well now I drink raw milk without any issues.
Yeah it's totally fine. I used drippings from the pan for weeks on end. I generally just toss it when it gets a bit too browned and blackened from the cooking process
NB Rhodesian Army notes that lion cubs are attracted to fire 🔥 in order to feed on any animals escaping from it. That's called smooring the fire. 20th week plant free
So what I learned from The Flinstones is all wrong? lol I never thought Archeology was interesting or this important, This has inspired me to do new things Thank you.
Glad to hear that! Yeah I think that there's a lot of fascinating information available and so many different fields, it's great to explore a wide variety and see what you find.
Hey Dr. Chaffee, do you think someone who has 30 or more lbs to lose should eat leaner cuts of meat such as sirloin steak or lean ground beef, or should they keep the fat high still
No I think that fatty cuts are still appropriate and optimal. Fat does not make you fat, on fact it can stimulate fat loss. And it has viral nutrients that your body needs to work optimally
Hi Dr - when weight training I get serious numbness in my arms at night. Moderate stenosis in neck as the cause. Happen to know if this diet would fix?
Why does high fat give me heartburn/silent indigestion? I like the fat, it sounds good/ taste good. Couple hours after, I’m reaching for tums. When I say high fat, i buy a whole strip loin, don’t trim it and cook it on the grill, and still don’t eat all the fat and still get some kind of heartburn. Is it because I’m not fat adapted??? I seem to do better on leaner meats and energy levels seem fine. Please help, I’m confused. Thank u.
How long you been doing this ? And are you eating anything else or truly just meat salt water ? For time give it 3 months (took me that long) For eating the other things often is the issue so if that is the case look into that ? If you are just meat salt water not sure but I know some others do better on leaner like NY strip and no extra fat and thrive on that one of those forgot her name some girl form Europe was in insane good shape doing carnivore with leaner saw her in a interview with one of the other carnivore channels ? Sorry cant remember her name but again she was in INSANE shape and I think worked in the fitness ring
@@ckmaui I’ve been aiming for true carnivore for over a year but with all the heartburn I end up cheating. It seems like if I have some carbs, I don’t get heartburn. I’m assuming its the soaking up from the potatoes. I just quit coffee as well. I’m glad to hear that it’s ok with the leaner meats. Maybe I don’t need much fat and maybe I’m slowing the adaption by eating carbs periodically. Thank u for your help.
@@lofrano20 best of luck has changed my life beyond what I thought at 59yr old 5'11" I was over 275lbs (when I started this around 3yrs ago) and quit weighing myself I am now at 175-180 lbs which is where I was most my life and never thought I would get this low and more important I did not realize all my joint pains and mental feel good things just seem sharp in focus are back of my youth :) I did start keto but never felt good so went carnivore and no plans on changing :) my 3 fav YT docs are Dr Chaffee and DR Baker and Dr ken Berry kinda in that order of strictest to more lax seems like between them you get a good balance and ideas and cover most things my Keto experience never healed me like carnivore did not saying it will you or others but its worth trying to get that other stuff gone as that might be it ! as I test things I find eggs are not my friend sadly (most likely the whites) also dairy is not my friend and did not really realize this till more recently I do say its not you become weak to these things but more you feel so so good that you then notice them as you are above that point you were at for so long I think it was Dr Chaffee who used the example like novocaine numbing you after dentist and not realizing chewing your food you were chewing your own cheek or something like that :)
@@ckmaui that’s awesome! Congrats!!! I’m so on board but the weird heartburn bothers me so much. I don’t think eggs are that great for me either, and I hate to say it but I should go without dairy to see how I feel as well. Those are the 3 doctors I follow and love too. Thank u for all your help, I really appreciate it. Keep up the great work and I hope u keep getting better and better results.
@@lofrano20 I used zypan, an animal based product, my first few months carnivore as I too got indigestion. I'm now 2 yrs and 10 months without any extraneous support.
There is no way it took a million years to control fire. Have you ever seen a bunch of boys around fire? They play with it and learn about it very quickly.
Blue cheese lovers , unite😅. France, listen up; there must be a market somewhere for blue cheese vodka. Just like hot sauce, after the first taste a person can’t get enough of it. It’s the challenge of it all.
Being french and having eaten a fair amount of blue cheese over the years, I'd definetely love to try cheese vodka 😂 Maybe if you melted the blue cheese you'd at least get close to the texture/viscosity ? 🤔 Liquid cheese (or at least melted cheese) is part of a number of dishes in France and elsewhere as well :) The Fondue Savoyarde (which probably has other names in french I'm sure) is basically bread pieces that you dip and coat in melted cheese 👍
Though as a carnivore what I'd really like to try is a no-plant version of the Fondue Bourguignonne. Instead of dipping/cooking raw meat pieces in seed oils, I'd like to try that with melted beef tallow or another such animal fat 🤔
I have spent my entire life getting canker sores from milk products. And she’s gives me an asthma attack I cannot have cheese. Unfortunately the process cheese does not affect my lungs so I rarely use it but I will on occasion. I just stay away from milk products. I use a little bit of help heavy whipping cream in my coffee but other than that I don’t wanna eat ice cream or cottage cheese or cheese or milk or yogurt. Very rarely do I have sour cream. I just find whatever it is that’s in there my body cannot process or something because I’m 64 and I don’t ever remember not having canker sores in fact they are so bad that when I was a teenager I had to have them burned off the back of my throat
I use to get awful cold sores on my lips and canker sores but since going keto/carnivore and giving up sugar, I have not had a sore! Don’t miss the pain! Gave up seed oils too!
I'm not sure we even cooked before fire. I haven't tried eating raw meat from a carcass, but I definetely have eaten lots of raw meat and raw eggs, and it really seems just as good as cooked meat and eggs.
Easy, we didn't! Our stomach acid is as high as carrion feeders because we ate carcasses raw and the acidity served to protect us from infection. Cooking ended up being even better at protecting us from infection, and could help preserve the meat for significantly longer.
Fish are attracted to fire :) fish with a torch has huge background and fishing Dogs like fire wild and domestic incl of course Coyotes wolf etc... so do many rodents rats and squirrels mongoose and others etc... both in experience and reading other info of course not talking wildfires :)
most have suagr in them, honey yes. but really $20 a bar man, how and who can afford a protein snack for 20 bucks a pot plus taxes and shitting on that. thats not practical at all.
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I feel the same....6 years of putting poisons in my body, believing I am doing the best thing for my health🙈🤦♂️
Makes me wanna crawl under a rock when I think of how I was eating as a vegetarian/vegan😱. I was that person eating loads and loads of nuts. Almost 4 years animal foods eater now. All gut issues gone. All skin issues gone. My receding gum grew back beautifully. No more crashes and the need for daily siestas. No more constant hunger!! 1-2 meals a day. My food bill is so much lower now.
Great, What exactly specifically do U eat on carnivore?thankU.
Same here 😅
Great what exactly specifically do U eat on carnivore. Great results
@@davidrodgers4760 beef butter bacon eggs salt and water
@@karterrose ok
We own and run a family butchers since 1973.
I'm carnivore and have always done extreme sports (I'm now 50).
However, we are slowly going bankrupt due to the lies that the medical industry, along with MSM and government are telling people in regards to the product we sell.
It literally drives me crazy how misinformed and naive the general public are.
Over the next decade meat will disappear completely unless farmers, retail outlets and people in the meat trade have a huge push back to save the only nutrient dense food source on the planet.
MEAT to live.
Wish you could sell online to the carnivore community. 😩
Where are y’all located? We’d love to support
I mean they literally want people to eat insects so...
No joke, they're now force feeding it to kids as part of their cafeteria menus in some Western countries
Yes..absolutely. are you carnivore or you eat other stuff?
Advertise online for local buyers and we will support you!
MONTH 2 UPDATE: So I began eating strictly carnivore for the first couple weeks. I started June 27th. Prior to this I had dairy and gluten intolerance, also have allergic reactions to mushrooms, potatoes, beans, rice, literally almost everything, oats, gluten free oats. Weight 94lbs at 5’6 female. Extremely frail, and malnourished. Skin issues, hair issues, digestive issues, while eating EXTREMELY “clean” diet. Anyways, after the first couple weeks, I noticed skin improvements, my scalp was finally producing sebum, I always had a dry scalp. I started eating grass fed yogurt and kefir just for probiotics, then I noticed I was really improving because I was allergic to dairy before and now I’m able to eat it without problems. I started eating RAW cheese made from unpasteurized milk. I now weight 105lbs! I gained 11lbs, majority is muscle that I need for my height, and normal amount of fat for a female. My natural frame is slowly being rebuilt because I was SO underweight. I noticed that I have a different body odour, it’s not as strong, it almost smells like what normal sweat should smell like. I don’t even use deodorant as much as I used to, l really don’t need it. Also my period cramps have reduced DRASTICALLY, wasn’t even expecting something like that to change. My eyebrows also got fuller, I don’t know if it’s due to the way I’m eating or because I use beef tallow as my facial moisturizer now. Either way animal based is the route to take. Anyways, I’ll update anymore changes next month.
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How did u add the dairy back in? I love dairy especially cheese but I get gassy if I have even raw hard cheeses I think due to the (casein) protein sensitivity
I love that Dr. Chaffee allows his guest to express his knowledge, ask follow up questions and not try to stir the conversation towards the carnivore diet 👏🏻
Very good observation!
He is the perfect host! Always listening and never interrupting or defending anything. He is a real gentleman.
I noticed this too. Thanks for commenting. It kinda reminds us all to be better listeners.
I came here from a Ken Berry interview with the man, because I couldn't stand it anymore, the constant interrupting and giving his own opinion about it... Then saw this one in the recommended video list and instantly clicked. I love both in their own capacity, but regarding interviews, Chaffee is king. Almost like an interested student not wanting to miss anything.
i think he is busy with his phone.
Just got first carnivore labs. 25 years keto. 2 months carnivore. Got the improvements I wanted.
A1C keto 5.8 canivore 5.1 (only 2 mos)
Fasting BG keto 102 carnivore 84
Tryglicerides keto 140 carnivore 74
Uric acid keto 8.2 carnivore 5.1.
Re bloods, I have friends always suggesting I have them done especially cholesterol. I have been carnivore for twelve months and feel amazing and as fit as a fiddle. Is this something I should be worried about?
That's awesome! Well done!
@@ann-mariecoombes632 no not at all. Cholesterol and saturated fat are good for you. Watch this to find out the truth of the matter:
ruclips.net/video/UbFXqjABIvo/видео.html
@@ann-mariecoombes632 How old are you??? Yearly physical is good for anyone. If you are young and are a fat adapted fat burner on carnivore, should have stellar labs. No sign of metabolic syndrome. Cholesterol, LDL is the least thing you should worry about. Learn about this as you may be fighting that battle with doctors for the rest of your life.
@@anthonychaffeemd Thanks Doc!!
I have a resin duplicate of the first stone tool, too. Hold on, let me get it.
Schindler is always so much fun. I love how he brings so much child-like enthusiasm and passion to his work.
Absolutely fascinating conversation gentlemen! This was as badass as it gets. I am going to share this with everyone I know. This is some of the most important health information ever produced. Thank you both and bravo!
Thank you very much! I'm really glad you liked it. And thank you for sharing? I really appreciate it! Hopefully they like it was much as you did
My husband was old-timey Kentucky. He put field corn in a barrel to make sour corn for the hogs. The hogs loved it!
Love those t shirts :D
I can't believe that was 100 minutes long! It flew by and felt like 20, 30 minutes tbh. SO engaging. There is nothing more entertaining than listening to experts who are so passionate about their research.
Having studied anthropology and history at the graduate level, these are topics that are very near and dear to me :D I personally think this was one of the most interesting interviews from your channel so far! Thank you for another wonderful video :)
My favorite interview bar none!
I was riveted by his stories and his enthusiasm.
Thank you both.
That's great! I'm really glad you liked it!
@@anthonychaffeemd You're a very good interviewer, by the way. No big ego, waiting to make your own points, just quiet and respectful.
@@TerriblePerfection thank you Luann, I appreciate that. I'm very interested in what people like Dr Schindler have to say, so it's a pleasure for me to just listen.
@@anthonychaffeemd great always, any idea what exactly Bill eats on carnivore?
Love Bill's down-to-earth attitude. No boring archaeological sermon here.
So excited for this interview! Bill Schindler is great! 😃
Fascinating interview. I’m looking forward to reading his book!
I'm a regenerative farmer. It is so much easier to raise meat for the table than raising veg and fruit for people to eat. That said...we need the animal manure to grow the veg. Might as well just grow grass for cows...or goats or sheep.
I'm fascinated by this conversation!!!
Dr Bill is the man, I hunt with some of his former students, and they all love him. Thanks for the interview! Dr. Anthony, you will enjoy watching “the great human race”, it is terrific.
Definitely is! And that's awesome that you go hunting with them and know about him first hand. Yeah I'm sure I will! It looks cool as hell
I saw a movie based for n the assumption that we did not know for a long time how to create fire. It’s called Quest for Fire (1982). The tribe had a man responsible for carrying the embers when they migrated. It’s one of those critically acclaimed movies that didn’t make it big at the box office and I’ve never seen it shown on other venues. Truly worth watching.
'la guerre du feu' by. Jean Jacques Annaud
What an informative interview! Bill is so enthusiastic about what he speaks of that I can't help but to want to delve deeper into the topics in the video. Thank-you for doing this one, Anthony! 👍
This guys a legend. Pretty awesome building a bow etc. I’ve got my bow and going to teach my son also. Great interview
This is so interesting. I love it when an educator is passionate and truly seems to enjoy their subject. I loved this. Thank you
Very interesting conversation! I've shared it on my Facebook profile. I'm always seeking for most natural way of living and eating... 8 months carnivore now and my health improved very much! Thank you all for doing such a great work and spreading the knowledge!
You are very welcome! And thank you for sharing, I'm really glad you liked it!
Absolutely loved this podcast! Did not want it to end😡
Schindler is on my list!
😏 I see what you did there.
Just so fascinating! Thank you !
Gold - thank you gentlemen
Btw on the "garden of eden" argument: one of the punishments for eating the forbidden fruit is literally to farm and eat bread
Excellent conversation! Love Dr Schindler’s enthusiasm and the 2 of you in your matching Tshirts look like fitness facility advertisements 😃
When corn and pellagra and Europe and Irish potato famine were brought up, I remembered learning about how Irish peasants did not historically experience famine nor dependence on one food stuff before the South American/New World potato was brought back to Europe. Of course, the Irish Potato Famine is a lot more complex with nefariousness and politics and manufacturing collapse. But a point can be made that when humans become dependent on one type of food, especially a nutritionally subpar plant food as toxic as say, potatoes, those humans then become easier to manipulate and starve.
Thank you for the brain candy, gentlemen!
That was such an awesome interview
Fascinating discussion. Thanks.
Gentlemen,fantastic conversation, we need much more of it, and thank you for discussing it.
I have become a carnivore for 6 months BUT I was including peanut m&ms , stupid. SO I decided to really take charge and for the past week I’m a pure carnivore and doing a lot of stretching and my sore leg and back are feeling increasingly better. Thank you and keep it coming
Re corn meal. My daughter in law is Navajo. She makes corn mush with juniper ash. It's delicious. This is how it's done on the reservation forever.
What a show!
This type of video is not something that I would usually listened/watched BUT found his talk very fascinating about his life, history and information about maze. Wow. I like that he said in the past we didn’t use the tools to hunt lettuce but animals, so true.
Always take health advice from the people you want to look like! ;^ )
Another great show
Having been largely raised as a meat eater in Africa when I was young I always knew it was the way to go but when I moved to the UK in my twenties I got sucked into the carb prison over time. The main problem I see with Dr Bill Schindler's take on the human diet is that it is largely based on the Evolutionary Biology view which in itself is yet another hypothesis as he says Archaeology is. I would prefer a more definite foundation. How about Devolutionary Biology? It would explain a lot more things
GREAT interview I like that way back then that people were "THRIVING" not just surviving and the fact that there are any humans left on planet earth was all due to their food source "MEAT" which I think was in great abundance and they had the skills & tools to hunt, you never just see one buffalo on its own, there was herds of them. it's amazing how every animal instinctivly knows what to eat, and the humans are stuggleing to remember what they once thrived on, and that in the wild there were no super markets of convenient pretend foods. I guess the tables are turning to our favour and we are now remembering and returning to how we use to eat.I'm sure we will live longer and happier lives when you can think about other things and not just about food all the time, in fact you just might need a timer to remind you that you need to eat, thats how satisfying meat is that you now have space and time to think about enjoying your life and really living.🥩🥓😋😂
Thank you Dr. Chaffee for bringing on your show Dr. Bill Schindler. We tend to wax poetic about an ancestral way of eating and living, and to many outside of the carnivore/paleo/ancestral community, they look at us as as if what we are saying is a distorted and romanticized version of our past. While there is some truth to that, there is a lot of science to backup our advocacy for emulating some of the dietary and lifestyle practices of our ancestors in our modern world. Dr. Schindler is a great resource to buttress the case for this idea.
Thanks for this interview. I bought Bill’s book last year, it is excellent.
This interview was a real eyeopener.
more of this please
Awesome interview , bow and arrow is a such a fun and challenging form to hunt wild animals. Very humbling!!!
Excellent Anthony!
I spent time in Mongolia and drank fermented mare’s milk with vodka (soviet legacy)! I love the people !!
That’s bad ass!
Fascinating interview/talk. Effin luv Bill's attitude, passion and approach to his subjects of interest.
I too have been thinking, for years now, that our hunter ancestors weren't merely surviving but thriving, due in part to their diet, but also to their social ways of living, and so on. Then, the agricultural revolution came, and, at least in my view, everything started going downhill, for humans, 'and' for the rest of the living and all ecosystems.
So I'm glad that we as a species are rediscovering what made us who we are before the beginning of the fall, such as our species appropriate diet, etc. I hope we keep rediscovering our roots in all aspects of life so we start thriving once again as a species and also stop annihilating every other species...ok, enough or I'll just begin ranting on and on.😊
I agree with you. Cars have also been a huge negative factor, in my opinion. And these days I notice many children zipping around on electric scooters, worsening the already harmful effects of a more sedentary lifestyle.
I wonder if any schools have experimented with standing desks...🤔
I'd like to get Bill's thoughts on John D. Speth and his lecture about the historical human diet. Thanks for the great video, Bill is a top guest, I love archaeology.
Another great interview 🔥
Great message T Shirts, Eat Like A Human 😊
The seed company baker creek advertised a watermelon bred from melon seeds originally saved by ancient Native Americans (found by somebody else). Modern fruits and vegetables were hybridized over hundreds if not thousands of years, and did not exist millions of years ago before we ate grains and farmed. Even older paintings show watermelon that looks different from today.
Extremely interesting, thanks
No problem, than you for watching!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing 👍 🏴
Great video awesome infor
Glad you liked it!
This was an extremely interesting talk. Thanks
Great discussion, as always. I'm glad that the fact that plants needs to be processed iin a certain way just to make them edible was brought up. And, just like the case of maize (corn), beans also must be processed before consuming (soak at least 12 hours, discard rinse water, and preferably repeat). But as Dr Schindler said, the food manufactures don't do that -- they just put the plant matter 'as is' in the manufactured "food" products that most people consume. No wonder all kinds of degenerative disease is rampant.
But even if the plants are processed properly, they're still not something a human would want to consume. At least not in the insane large quantities that most people eat them these days.
Very interesting discussion!
About the Mayan eating corn ! the term “pygmies of Central America”
The avg man was something like 5’2” and the women 4’8”
Have heard many say was because of bad diet ?
My time in Honduras the fish carvings in places like Copan and the locals I would talk to there many said river fish was a huge source of food for them along with coastal fishing ? The Paya or Pech of parts of honduras relied much more on meat and fish than the Corn again local folks from the University were saying they were larger than many of the other Mayan ? Have to now wonder if it was based more on the higher meat content of the northern Mayans ?
Story telling by the fire, roasting the meat, or pot of stew.... warmth, light and protection from the wolves...
joseph, then the wolves moved in closer for scrapes of meat and became our best friend and companion
What are your thoughts on smoking meat in a smoker? I do not use any seasonings or sauces, but I love the smoke flavor it gives to beef.
What kind of wood are you using?
We too enjoy smoked meat. Ham, bacon are smoked. We smoke all sorts of meat and cheese..we do Hot smoke and cold.. Smoked fish is soo yum.. Our ancestors smoked meat.. Carnt be bad or we'd have died out.. Go for it.. Honeysuckle, Manuka, pohutukawa, oh so many different wood can be used.. New zealand..
Cavemen cooked on fire. So your probably good. I pitboss most of the meat I eat. Don't see a reason not to.
The maize preparation he describes is Sofkee.
Most excellent video guys thank you so very much...
Hi Dr. Chaffee! Thank you for everything you do. Should someone with kidney disease take caution when starting this diet? I have an auto immune disease that attacks my kidneys (nephrotic syndrome-FSGS). I did the diet for 2 weeks and stopped because I got nervous with some blood work showing liver and kidney function problems.
I would try to get in touch with Bart Kay. I bet at a minimum he would say don't just jump in. Take six to 8 weeks to remove plants. All at once has a tendency to be hard on people.
Good morning from the Big D, Texas dawn patrol 🖖👋
You work in Perth? I'm a Victorian doctor and the only state that makes Vic look slightly less insane is WA. Why would a US doctor work in Perth?
It do be like that sometimes aye 😂
Guessing it's his Partner and her family ties. I've done the same in the past for four years. Love is a hell of a thing.
A Victorian doctor? Hopefully you aren't handing out the arsenic and cocaine like the Victorian era doctors!
Huzzah!!!
Wonderful point about archeologists from the past influenced then and still influencing today with the plant as a savior for war an such
I think there is a deep in lying reason for that push whether it was the archeologist or what they were regurgitating back and their interpretations
Wonderful talk
I’m going to go watch the survival show he was talking about
Eat Like a Human could be a book club item
absolutely loved this video, it makes so much sense and should be a mandatory part of a school curriculum. I learned a lot but slightly confused as a (correct me if I am wrong) true Carnivore diet does not include veggies at all.
As per the scientific definitions.. a carnivore is any creature that eats over 70% of its diet from animalia. Humans are definitely carnivores. Even coyotes will sometimes eat berries or something when it's around. That being said, most people getting on a carnivore diet have broken bodies and need to go to the extreme to reverse the damage.
Correct- carnivore, no veggies, no fruits, no carbs.
Keto- meat & veggies, no fruits, no carbs (eg no rice. Potatoes. Grain )
Interestingly this is the same approach I have. Eat what would have been available naturally.
On no don’t ruin naked and afraid. I love that show.
Really surprised he didn't talk about raw milk having the digestive enzymes included so that lactose intolerant ppl can drink it.
This was a awesome video, very interesting and who wants to taste the fermented alcohol 🥴😂
Kefir is fermented dairy.
This is fascinating, although I hold to a MUCH shorter timeline.
When people claim the "Garden Of Eden" as an excuse to eat plants it shows that they have not read the Bible. God clearly tells us after the Flood that we are to eat meat.
I ate carnivore for 2 months. Eczema dissapeared and I felt stable. However, I hit a point where I was cold, had low energy, libido etc. i think I had low thyroid. So I added in under 100g carbs a day in form of fruit/tubers and that made me feel great again. But now I want to see if I was doing carnivore wrong. I think I maybe wasn’t eating enough fat to protein ratio, even though I was topping my steak and meat with butter, ghee, talllow to large amounts. Anyone have any pointers? Why did I have low thyroid symptoms that went away with the addition of low-moderate carbs???
Moreover, after listening to the bioenergetic side of diet, there’s the argument that gluconeogensis is a stressful state utilising cortisol Adrenaline and glucagon, a fallback mechanism for when you aren’t consuming any carbs. What do u guys think about this argument? Is it that if u have enough fat and not too much protein, you don’t need to dip into gluconeogensis due to burning ketones exclusively???
Any other info u think of please comment.
dr.Ted Naiman,says higher protein carnivore ,he doesn't agree with all the High Fatty carnivore debate.nor do others and Dr.Salisbury .leaner steaks are fine.
Modern ppl have a rather stressful life (chronic stress) therefore e.g. intermittent fasting and zero carb could have a negative effect on cortisol levels.
Some carbs esp. consumed in the morning and around (hypertrophy) workouts could mitigate this issue. Since in the morning and after workout insulin sensitivity is highest (also due to GLUT4 mimicking insulin) that’s the best time to consume carbs (50 gr in the morning carbs with high GI and 50 -100gr after workouts mixed high and low GI carbs). In regards to T3 conversion insulin triggered by dietary carbs seem to play an important role. This is especially relevant for ppl with hypothyroidism - women are more sensitive in this aspect.
If you wanna stay keto esp. carnivore it could help to make sure your electrolytes and iodine intake is sufficient. Also experiment with the amount of total calorie intake (not going below your active metabolism rate). Also make sure your fat/ protein ratio is on point - 70-80% of calories from fat. Make sure you’ve enough omega 3 (fatty fish). If you don’t wanna eat carbs on a daily base another option could be to do a carb refeed every other week. You’ve to experiment but give each approach enough time (some months or longer) to judge fairly.
Dr Chaffee mentioned on multiple occasions that the fasted/ Keto metabolism is our natural state. Following this argument we have to become highly Keto adapted - your body after only two months is not there yet as it seems.
I agree with Dr.Naiman.Also "the bear owsley",also said any cut of steak,he ate mostly ny strip,butter,eggs,cheese..no salt.
It took me several attempts to sort out there are several issues. Missing nutrients, electrolyte issues, cortisol. Meat doesn’t have all the needed nutrients and too much iron without Copper can be a real issue. I eat dairy, and some carbs to hold onto my electrolytes. Find your carb level, keep it low and no veggies.
If all your organs don’t line up it’s very hard to go full Carnie. So you have to move slower and heal weak organs until you can go full Carnivore. Then make sure to supplement for missing nutrients or add foods.
Iodine
I’m Im one of the few I know that has severe lactose intolerance. I had to bring lactase drops to school with me because like everyone else, I wanted to drink school chocolate milk. Well now I drink raw milk without any issues.
I am having trouble determining whether it’s safe or not to reuse lard after having cooked with it. Any advice please? When is lard rancid?
Yeah it's totally fine. I used drippings from the pan for weeks on end. I generally just toss it when it gets a bit too browned and blackened from the cooking process
@@anthonychaffeemdDr.Chaffee, how long do you cook your daily steak for?(*LIKE 4-5 MINUTES A SIDE?)Thanks,they all look perfect!
@@davidrodgers4760 usually 3 to 4 minutes each side of they are at room temp. Plus I sear the edges as well.
NB Rhodesian Army notes that lion cubs are attracted to fire 🔥 in order to feed on any animals escaping from it.
That's called smooring the fire.
20th week plant free
Badass
"We're going to help our sons win the war because we're planting carrots in our garden" 😆😆😆
So what I learned from The Flinstones is all wrong? lol I never thought Archeology was interesting or this important, This has inspired me to do new things Thank you.
Glad to hear that! Yeah I think that there's a lot of fascinating information available and so many different fields, it's great to explore a wide variety and see what you find.
Can't wait Dr. Chaffee..I'll be there..
Hey Dr. Chaffee, do you think someone who has 30 or more lbs to lose should eat leaner cuts of meat such as sirloin steak or lean ground beef, or should they keep the fat high still
No I think that fatty cuts are still appropriate and optimal. Fat does not make you fat, on fact it can stimulate fat loss. And it has viral nutrients that your body needs to work optimally
Doesn’t really make sense about the eating plants if we need fat and protein plants won’t cut it 🤔🤔🤔
Good thing I love blue cheese
Hi Dr - when weight training I get serious numbness in my arms at night. Moderate stenosis in neck as the cause. Happen to know if this diet would fix?
Interesting!
Put me on his list
Why does high fat give me heartburn/silent indigestion? I like the fat, it sounds good/ taste good. Couple hours after, I’m reaching for tums. When I say high fat, i buy a whole strip loin, don’t trim it and cook it on the grill, and still don’t eat all the fat and still get some kind of heartburn. Is it because I’m not fat adapted??? I seem to do better on leaner meats and energy levels seem fine. Please help, I’m confused. Thank u.
How long you been doing this ? And are you eating anything else or truly just meat salt water ?
For time give it 3 months (took me that long)
For eating the other things often is the issue so if that is the case look into that ?
If you are just meat salt water not sure but I know some others do better on leaner like NY strip and no extra fat and thrive on that one of those forgot her name some girl form Europe was in insane good shape doing carnivore with leaner saw her in a interview with one of the other carnivore channels ? Sorry cant remember her name but again she was in INSANE shape and I think worked in the fitness ring
@@ckmaui I’ve been aiming for true carnivore for over a year but with all the heartburn I end up cheating. It seems like if I have some carbs, I don’t get heartburn. I’m assuming its the soaking up from the potatoes. I just quit coffee as well. I’m glad to hear that it’s ok with the leaner meats. Maybe I don’t need much fat and maybe I’m slowing the adaption by eating carbs periodically. Thank u for your help.
@@lofrano20 best of luck has changed my life beyond what I thought
at 59yr old 5'11" I was over 275lbs (when I started this around 3yrs ago) and quit weighing myself I am now at 175-180 lbs which is where I was most my life and never thought I would get this low and more important I did not realize all my joint pains and mental feel good things just seem sharp in focus are back of my youth :)
I did start keto but never felt good so went carnivore and no plans on changing :)
my 3 fav YT docs are Dr Chaffee and DR Baker and Dr ken Berry kinda in that order of strictest to more lax
seems like between them you get a good balance and ideas and cover most things
my Keto experience never healed me like carnivore did not saying it will you or others but its worth trying to get that other stuff gone as that might be it !
as I test things I find eggs are not my friend sadly (most likely the whites)
also dairy is not my friend and did not really realize this till more recently
I do say its not you become weak to these things but more you feel so so good that you then notice them as you are above that point you were at for so long
I think it was Dr Chaffee who used the example like novocaine numbing you after dentist and not realizing chewing your food you were chewing your own cheek or something like that :)
@@ckmaui that’s awesome! Congrats!!! I’m so on board but the weird heartburn bothers me so much. I don’t think eggs are that great for me either, and I hate to say it but I should go without dairy to see how I feel as well. Those are the 3 doctors I follow and love too. Thank u for all your help, I really appreciate it. Keep up the great work and I hope u keep getting better and better results.
@@lofrano20 I used zypan, an animal based product, my first few months carnivore as I too got indigestion. I'm now 2 yrs and 10 months without any extraneous support.
Those people are not lactose intolerancent if they drink whole raw milk
There is no way it took a million years to control fire. Have you ever seen a bunch of boys around fire? They play with it and learn about it very quickly.
Are you sure?
Are you sure you 2 aren't brothers?
trying to find out what Schindler is a doctor in... is he a medical doctor or something else ?
Blue cheese lovers , unite😅. France, listen up; there must be a market somewhere for blue cheese vodka. Just like hot sauce, after the first taste a person can’t get enough of it. It’s the challenge of it all.
Being french and having eaten a fair amount of blue cheese over the years, I'd definetely love to try cheese vodka 😂 Maybe if you melted the blue cheese you'd at least get close to the texture/viscosity ? 🤔 Liquid cheese (or at least melted cheese) is part of a number of dishes in France and elsewhere as well :)
The Fondue Savoyarde (which probably has other names in french I'm sure) is basically bread pieces that you dip and coat in melted cheese 👍
Though as a carnivore what I'd really like to try is a no-plant version of the Fondue Bourguignonne. Instead of dipping/cooking raw meat pieces in seed oils, I'd like to try that with melted beef tallow or another such animal fat 🤔
Lots of breads and veg on his insta???
had a sourdough bread business, or his daughters...
I have spent my entire life getting canker sores from milk products. And she’s gives me an asthma attack I cannot have cheese. Unfortunately the process cheese does not affect my lungs so I rarely use it but I will on occasion. I just stay away from milk products. I use a little bit of help heavy whipping cream in my coffee but other than that I don’t wanna eat ice cream or cottage cheese or cheese or milk or yogurt. Very rarely do I have sour cream. I just find whatever it is that’s in there my body cannot process or something because I’m 64 and I don’t ever remember not having canker sores in fact they are so bad that when I was a teenager I had to have them burned off the back of my throat
I use to get awful cold sores on my lips and canker sores but since going keto/carnivore and giving up sugar, I have not had a sore! Don’t miss the pain! Gave up seed oils too!
Have you considered or tried raw milk?
You could try Manouri cheese. It's a geek cheese made from sheep or goat Whey.. And not casein.
Best comeback I’ve heard from vegans is how did we cook without 🔥
I'm not sure we even cooked before fire. I haven't tried eating raw meat from a carcass, but I definetely have eaten lots of raw meat and raw eggs, and it really seems just as good as cooked meat and eggs.
To that I would reply. How would you as a vegan survive without your blender?
Easy, we didn't! Our stomach acid is as high as carrion feeders because we ate carcasses raw and the acidity served to protect us from infection. Cooking ended up being even better at protecting us from infection, and could help preserve the meat for significantly longer.
I wish the carnivore diet was a thing 20+ years ago.
I would have been in MUCH better shape.
just remember, it's never too late, while you're still alive. a year of Carnivore will fix decades of self abuse in a few short months, it would seem.
Always SO many ads on this channel
how can anyone from New York know anything useful
Fish are attracted to fire :) fish with a torch has huge background and fishing
Dogs like fire wild and domestic incl of course Coyotes wolf etc... so do many rodents rats and squirrels mongoose and others etc... both in experience and reading other info of course not talking wildfires :)
most have suagr in them, honey yes. but really $20 a bar man, how and who can afford a protein snack for 20 bucks a pot plus taxes and shitting on that. thats not practical at all.