Haltmann didn't mechanize Rock Star because of it's current state. Sure, it had resources, but its hard to establish a good base of operation when the whole planet is in several pieces.
Given the relationship between Kirby and their Robobot Armor, it could be that the Robobot Armors have some sentience as well as emotions, maybe as some sort of fuel or an indirect consequence of their programming.
For some reason, I for a while thought Metal General was a failed attempt of a new member to the Meta Knights. it has some of Meta Knight's attacks and it seem it would fit in with the others...
Man, its been a while since I did a NEW episode of this series huh? Well, there are only 3 new Canon videos left that I can really think of, 2 of which are ALSO brand new, the one that IS a remake, leads into the last new one, which a LOT of people have requested, so I'll let you speculate on that! ;) Honestly though, part of me was wondering if I should even make this episode, as it turned out completely different than originally intended when writing the script. I hope you all enjoy it regardless!
Shiver Star is a frozen-over Earth filled with machines and factories HR-H resides there HR = Haltmann Robotics? Haltmann Industries is known for invading planets and stripping them of their resources This theory is very flimsy, but I think that Shiver Star was invaded by Haltmann and used as a temporary base. I don’t know what the experimental creatures in the background of Shiver Star’s factory are used for though. Haltmann mainly focuses on machines, not organic experimentation and bioengineering, so that’s a big hole in my theory I guess
I feel like haltman species are cyborg like snice they hav feelings and robo like so the war cloud be cause. Cyborgs vs humans which cause this so the haltworks compainy may come here as emgrncey to escape and the only way to live is recourse
@@CubicColdHead That's right. They were also able to turn Meta Knight into a cyborg also so it makes sense that they would've experimented with it somewhere else first.
They do experiment with organic lifeforms, the fact that they have cloned various specimens in order to control their natural strength is proof of that
Shiver Star isn't an example because it still has organic life left on it. Particularly the evergreen trees. Also, Haltmann's mechanization is much more advanced in comparison. Had he taken a glance at Shiver Star, he'd give it more than just one mall, factory, and city. He'd overhaul it entirely so that the grounds are full of construction, as we see with Patched Plains. Heck, the one frozen lake in Shiver Star would be a swimming pool like Overload Ocean, or even just dried up entirely like Gigabyte Grounds. Another thing is that it was stated on Miiverse that the planets in the background of Star Dream's fight are actually planets mechanized by Haltmann, as shown by the glowing H sigil he's marked the planets with. The post makes the fact he marks all of the planets he visits with the H sigil after taking all of it's life force very clear. The fact Shiver Star doesn't even have a visible H sigil, yet we can still see the Earth's continents under all the ice and snow gives me the conclusion that the similarities between Pop Star's mechanization and Shiver Star's factory is a coincidence. It's possible Shiver Star was just another one of the planets he may have visited, like Rock Star, which similarly has uncharted technology on it (the pyramid and Pix). Also, I'm surprised no one brought up Mekkai. It isn't an example either because it too doesn't have an H, but note just how mechanical that planet is. Like, there's no sign of organic life there outside of enemies.
The original version of Return to Dreamland, the one that was gonna be on Gamecube, had HR-D3 belong to King Dedede. You could even see it had Dedede's Peace Sign symbol back then, so the reason it looks similar is just because of reused assets. EDIT: Not to mention that because of that version being cancelled, HR-D3 appeared first in Kirby Mass Attack in a Sub-Game, so my theory is that Mass Attack originally followed things from GCN Return to Dreamland or was made alongside it, but it was too late to change after it was postponed and went to the Wii. But tbh, that Sub-Game was pretty small.
@@melonyswife Well there's not much lore to HR-D3 unfortunately, so it's just links and assumptions. The Description for HR-D3 indicates that "it drifted into Egg Engines from another dimension" so it could as well be linked to the Ancients. Maybe one of the original Ancients was a bit of a Dedede-lookalike? We do have Galacta, who is theorized to be an Ancient with his Heart Spear attack from Super Kirby Clash, who is a Meta Knight-lookalike.
@@AmorousMelodyVODs How funny would it be if it turned out Dedede was basically a counterpart to Hyness in that he's the last surviving member of the technology-based race of Ancients I'd say that gives him enough reason to be King
Since HR-D3 is considered "ancient" and is designed to look like King Dedede, Wouldn't that mean that Dedede would have some kinda knowledge or connection with the ancients? or maybe their was once a cult or tribe full of dedede's species. maybe the ancients were "bird people" since Hyness's beta design was a bird like appearance. you know what i dont even know...
HR-D3 is based off an unused DeDeDe robot shown in early trailers for a 3d Kirby game that was cancelled. I think the "D3" part in its name is also a reference to DeDeDe because 3 "D"s
Speaking of robots, here’s something interesting I noticed in Kirby Super Star Ultra. Heavy Lobster is the boss of planet Mecheye in Milky Way Wishes. In Ultra, that HL is silver instead of the usual gold. Also in SSU, there’s a unique background for this fight. A Heavy Lobster factory. That makes me think. Is Heavy Lobster a common robot design in the Kirby Universe? Did Meta Knight’s crew really make HL or did they steal it from Mecheye? Did they create planet Mecheye as a secondary base? I don’t know. Just some questions I guess
It would be cool a what is kirby canon about galacta knight, and yes I know there's already one, but it's pretty outdated, you could tell some more theories revolving around both the light and dark form of him
The ancients basing their machines after void termina isn’t actually far off from concept art for planet robobot. At one point instead of fighting novas heart in access ark you’d fight a mechanical eye similar to zero and the inside looked like a copy of dark star. Here’s my source tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/KirbyVillainousFactions go to void termina, reused character design and click the “Star dream fight” link.
Hooplagoon's eyes remind me of the Novas. Could it be that Hooplagoon is a compass instead of a pocket watch? It's hard to tell what it's power would be, but with how its spikes protrude out i'd imagine it'd be some sort of way for the ancients to track down Jamba hearts to power their machinery. It probably extends out in every single way because of the fact Claycia is under control of Dark Crafter, as well as Kirby, a good form of Void given a focus on a kind heart. This is further supported with the fact that surrounding Hooplagoon in the background are some eyes that could be interpreted as Zero. And the final way Hooplagoon could be tracking void Laterally is with the black panel, which rotates all around only to stop down at Kirby. Keep in mind this is all speculation, but it wouldn't be too far off to say its either a tracking device or a defense force against Void Terminas. Take your pick.
I never really thought to delve into this side of Kirby lore before, and now that I think about it, the whole "emotions give rise to sentience" mantra does seem to be oddly prevalent among the Kirby bosses. I wonder how this might be expanded upon in the future. Also, it should be noted that plot holes that come from past games (like Rock star not being colonized) are highly likely since the lore was minimal at that stage. Who knows, maybe Rockstar WILL get mechanized in an HD remaster some day?
Heavy Lobster needs a video of his own, I've heard that its a rogue war machine that gut the Halberd after Vul released it, but im not very sure tbh, ALL robots in Kirby need at LEAST a segment about them
For Heavy Lobster While It Made in Mekkia (shown in super star Ultra) It Does Look Likes It Takes Orders Form Captain Vul even the Kirby Anime Heavy Lobster First Thing was To do when inside the halberd was to Free De de de so Likey he Take Orders At Best not likey to have to much Selfawareness but that doesn't it mindless It Does Reaction alot when it blinded by the paint ability
A small food for thought to add to the idea that the galactic nova and star dream are either made with void termina or build as an copy of it.. the heart of nova looks very simulair to the jamba heart. Its either a jamba heart that they use to power the machines or the heart is a repleca of the jamba hearts mimicing its powers
I have a video idea:The interesting theory that Bandana Dee could be the Waddle Dee from 64. Because they both share color palettes and Bandana Dee has a strong connection with Dedede and Kirby. Also the Waddle Dee is strong but, not as strong as Kirby and Bandana Dee is close to Kirby strength. And one of Bandana Dee's names were "Waddle Dee" in Return to Dreamland. Also noticing in Megaton Punch he can crack the Planet and in checkerboard chase the Waddle Dee destroys the blocks with ease. Seems like they have a lot in common in terms of strength. And Bandana Dee and the Waddle are very good in terms of speed. And both can jump pretty high! Also they both are very helpful when Kirby needs it the most. And let's not forget Kirby Star Allies the game where it possibly could've implied Bandana Dee to be the Waddle Dee in Adeleine and Ribbon's trailer. So to be honest I think Bandana Dee and the 64 Waddle Dee are the same in one.
I find it interesting that the trailer implies Bandana Dee is the one from 64, while the title screen interactions go out of their way to use a generic Parasol Waddle Dee in all of the explicitly 64-themed interactions, leaving out Bandana Dee. What does it mean? Well, I dunno. Maybe HAL wants to keep it ambiguous or something. But... especially if you include 64, then Bandana Dee has had an interesting little character arc across much of the series, and I like that, so it's definitely my headcanon at least. xD
I think the HWC didn’t mechanize Rock Star because it didn’t have enough resources (compared to Popstar and Earth, at least) and they though it would be a waste of time
By watching this series, I have learned that matpat NEEDS to cover kirby lore. The kirby series has around the same amount of lore as the fnaf seiries.
I'm love that the metal general EX Has new 3th form when it's base on King Dedede's mech in one Kirby mass attack mini game & supposedly aper in one GameCube game base on "Kirby super star" & Kirby super star ultra" mechanics but not finished and the idea was almost forgotten until "Kirby star allies" when the idea is refound of this unfinished GameCube game and used on mordent time and it's from ok,to good enough after the last update was released so that's worth enough the troubles they...😁
Void is most definitely a "sentient machine" by your definitions, at least by the time he got hooked up to the Jamba Heart. I dunno, Haltmann's characteristics seem awfully human. Maybe he's a survivor of Shiver Star, knowing what could happen to the universe if his mission for prosperity fails. A motivator, of sorts. Hey, speaking of Heavy Mole, I always fancied that it was a reconstructed model of Kabula. If a blimp in the skies doesn't work, what about a mining drill in the ground? It explains why it's Dedede's "friend". And then it got rebuilt as a blimp for RotK, because nostalgia, and so on. Alternatively, Meta served to handle the Star Rod Incident as well, and was stationed right beside Heavy. What if he rebuilt the abandoned Heavy Mole into the deadlier Heavy _Lobster?_ One thing's for sure: Mekkai is a manufacturing factory for adapted Ancient technology... perhaps the Halberd itself, for example? At least for Kabula, the Heavies, and maybe even some of Halcandra and the HWC's stuff.
Completely irrelevant to the video but I wonder if Void Termina is alone? What I mean is, it says he lives in all dimensions, kinda like he’s omnipresent, maybe that’s because he’s in a plane of reality that transcends all dimensions, and therefore can exist in all dimensions simultaneously. What if he’s not alone and there are other dark gods in that dimension, maybe some that are even more threatening and horrifying than he is. I mostly got this idea from H.P Lovecraft and Stephen King’s IT, but of course less terrifying like Marx.
Ok so shiver star probaly was completly mechanized notice factory investigation is remixed in robobot in haltmans powerplant and also the sort of sad felling the song has its in a minor key and has some mornful chorus and organs in the background and ends with a terryfing almost robotic sounding choir maybe those are the robots themselves
Could Galacta Knight, Dark Meta Knight, Morpho Knight, and Meta knight be the 4 heroes who sealed void away, Galacta knight was sealed for his immense power and was able to used those heart shaped spear things, morpho knight always ends Galacta knight after he is released from his prison as if he knew about him, meta knight in the anime apparently taught the huge kabu everything, dark meta knight can control the mirrors and his sword and mask are different from meta knight
A bit confused. I thought it was stated the Metal General GAVE Haltmann his blueprints, because Egg Engines had already been overthrown by the General BEFORE hand and because of this the General And Haltmann Works Co. were similars and not adversaries. This video seems to retcon this, with Metal General instead warding OFF the Haltmann Works Co. and avoiding assimilation...or maybe I’m just interpreting this wrong.
Bagel God just a bit of theory crafting and head cannon I guess from my part. I feel like Meteroz mentioned it in the Haltmann video but maybe not. I’m just not entirely sure what Metal General’s purpose for confronting Kirby was. If he’s a native of Egg Engines that guards against intruders, then what happened to the rest of the natural life? Was it always so cold, and metallic? You can see in the background of his boss fight multiple towers and houses so was there a society that once lived there? If so, what happened to them? We really don’t see any civilization on Egg Engines apart from the machinery and the basic Kirby fauna. Did the ancients use to take residence there? So many unanswered and intriguing questions...
ToxiCastigator well it was on halcandra were artifacts made by the ancients like the lor starcutter were hidden. So they must have been there at one point. Heck hyness and magolor (whos from halcandra) look very similar. if they would hide things like the master crown and lor on halcandra then it must be important. It makes sense to me that the Ancient built and lived in egg engines for some time.
Wouldn't Coily Rattler, the Paint sisters, and flowery woods be sentient. I know it doesn't have anything to do with machines but I mean Coily rattler was a statue, flower woods was a flower and the paint sisters are well paintings
Tbh, I haven't played planet robobobot but you mention that Haltmman reconstructed Stardream, so that probably that the original one is still out there?
hey meteorz, wanted to ask if you have seen the nintendo news on super kirby clash and the foreshadowing of the dark aeon hero showing up in a future game.
Talk about The anime and whether or not its really canon or if the characters exist in the game universe given the games especially the recent ones have been making references to it
Did you know that gigabyte grounds was actually a part of overload ocean, before it gets sucked up into the blenders/vacuum cleaners. We know this because of Kirby fighters two, with the stage called “ dried up sea”. Just a cool fact. Not much lore.
Maybe when haltman took resourses from Rock Star, he destroyed it in the prosses. This will explain why Rock Star's Japenese Name is Destroyed Star. this situation for Rock Star is WORSE....then Shiver Star/Earth.
Игры
Clicked faster than Star Dream deciding it had to wipe out all organic life in the universe
Is that a toonrifictariq reference?
Lol
Star Dream is AM? I Have No Mouth reference?
"In terms of the Kirby Universe, what is sentience?"
I missed this show.
The more I think about this, the funnier it becomes
Same.
is it over?
Haltmann didn't mechanize Rock Star because of it's current state. Sure, it had resources, but its hard to establish a good base of operation when the whole planet is in several pieces.
Tell that to Eggman.
Golden Foxy Eggman split apart the planet, yes, but at least the chunks were stationary. Rock Star’s planet chunks are constantly moving.
(O_O;)
LOL
@@TheImpureOne he also pissed on the moon
Given the relationship between Kirby and their Robobot Armor, it could be that the Robobot Armors have some sentience as well as emotions, maybe as some sort of fuel or an indirect consequence of their programming.
Kinda like the Voids?
For some reason, I for a while thought Metal General was a failed attempt of a new member to the Meta Knights. it has some of Meta Knight's attacks and it seem it would fit in with the others...
Good point
Ngl that would be cool
Man, its been a while since I did a NEW episode of this series huh? Well, there are only 3 new Canon videos left that I can really think of, 2 of which are ALSO brand new, the one that IS a remake, leads into the last new one, which a LOT of people have requested, so I'll let you speculate on that! ;)
Honestly though, part of me was wondering if I should even make this episode, as it turned out completely different than originally intended when writing the script. I hope you all enjoy it regardless!
Meteorz are you going to review kirby battle royal?
This series is great, the kirby series has around the same amount of lore as fnaf, and matpat NEEDS to talk about this series.
@@starbeam7679 I love Kirby games and I played the whole entire franchise
@@Sailorbunny18 I like kirby, but I don't have all the games, or all the consoles that have them
@@starbeam7679 did you play kirby's extra epic yarn
Shiver Star is a frozen-over Earth filled with machines and factories
HR-H resides there
HR = Haltmann Robotics?
Haltmann Industries is known for invading planets and stripping them of their resources
This theory is very flimsy, but I think that Shiver Star was invaded by Haltmann and used as a temporary base.
I don’t know what the experimental creatures in the background of Shiver Star’s factory are used for though.
Haltmann mainly focuses on machines, not organic experimentation and bioengineering, so that’s a big hole in my theory I guess
I feel like haltman species are cyborg like snice they hav feelings and robo like so the war cloud be cause. Cyborgs vs humans which cause this so the haltworks compainy may come here as emgrncey to escape and the only way to live is recourse
@@CubicColdHead That's right. They were also able to turn Meta Knight into a cyborg also so it makes sense that they would've experimented with it somewhere else first.
They do experiment with organic lifeforms, the fact that they have cloned various specimens in order to control their natural strength is proof of that
I have a feeling HR might stand for something else, given that HR-D3 shares the same prefix while supposedly being an ancient war machine
Maybe the HWC was a family business, maybe Max n' Susie evolved from humans, who knows.
Me: watches Kirby video-
Meteorz: What Is Sentience?
Shiver Star isn't an example because it still has organic life left on it. Particularly the evergreen trees. Also, Haltmann's mechanization is much more advanced in comparison. Had he taken a glance at Shiver Star, he'd give it more than just one mall, factory, and city. He'd overhaul it entirely so that the grounds are full of construction, as we see with Patched Plains. Heck, the one frozen lake in Shiver Star would be a swimming pool like Overload Ocean, or even just dried up entirely like Gigabyte Grounds.
Another thing is that it was stated on Miiverse that the planets in the background of Star Dream's fight are actually planets mechanized by Haltmann, as shown by the glowing H sigil he's marked the planets with. The post makes the fact he marks all of the planets he visits with the H sigil after taking all of it's life force very clear. The fact Shiver Star doesn't even have a visible H sigil, yet we can still see the Earth's continents under all the ice and snow gives me the conclusion that the similarities between Pop Star's mechanization and Shiver Star's factory is a coincidence. It's possible Shiver Star was just another one of the planets he may have visited, like Rock Star, which similarly has uncharted technology on it (the pyramid and Pix).
Also, I'm surprised no one brought up Mekkai. It isn't an example either because it too doesn't have an H, but note just how mechanical that planet is. Like, there's no sign of organic life there outside of enemies.
What's Mekkai again? I know one of the planets in Kirby, but which game?
@@kateymclatey1891 Kirby Super Star/Kirby Super Star Ultra.
@@ivoryvt figured.
I'm just curious as to why HR-D3 looks so similar to dedede
The original version of Return to Dreamland, the one that was gonna be on Gamecube, had HR-D3 belong to King Dedede. You could even see it had Dedede's Peace Sign symbol back then, so the reason it looks similar is just because of reused assets.
EDIT: Not to mention that because of that version being cancelled, HR-D3 appeared first in Kirby Mass Attack in a Sub-Game, so my theory is that Mass Attack originally followed things from GCN Return to Dreamland or was made alongside it, but it was too late to change after it was postponed and went to the Wii. But tbh, that Sub-Game was pretty small.
LovingSakuraKat I wanted a lore explanation but that's still very interesting :)
@@melonyswife Well there's not much lore to HR-D3 unfortunately, so it's just links and assumptions. The Description for HR-D3 indicates that "it drifted into Egg Engines from another dimension" so it could as well be linked to the Ancients. Maybe one of the original Ancients was a bit of a Dedede-lookalike? We do have Galacta, who is theorized to be an Ancient with his Heart Spear attack from Super Kirby Clash, who is a Meta Knight-lookalike.
Disgusted Dedede satan created HR-D3
There’s your lore
@@AmorousMelodyVODs How funny would it be if it turned out Dedede was basically a counterpart to Hyness in that he's the last surviving member of the technology-based race of Ancients
I'd say that gives him enough reason to be King
Meteroz: *upload a video about kirby canon*
me: *Clicks faster than Lorcutter goes to hallcandra*
Honestly, shiver star needs it's own episode, so many mysteries surrounds that planet that is not even funnny...
Since HR-D3 is considered "ancient" and is designed to look like King Dedede, Wouldn't that mean that Dedede would have some kinda knowledge or connection with the ancients? or maybe their was once a cult or tribe full of dedede's species.
maybe the ancients were "bird people" since Hyness's beta design was a bird like appearance.
you know what i dont even know...
That would be cool though
Maybe that relation with the ancients is what makes him so susceptible to possession
Time travel. you can never rule it out with magolor on the louse.
HR-D3 is based off an unused DeDeDe robot shown in early trailers for a 3d Kirby game that was cancelled. I think the "D3" part in its name is also a reference to DeDeDe because 3 "D"s
Oh no, not the chozo again
Aren't some of the Helpers that join Kirby occasionally like Weelie, Jet, or The Yo-yo user sentient machines as well?
I like how factory inspection plays in the background
Same
Speaking of robots, here’s something interesting I noticed in Kirby Super Star Ultra.
Heavy Lobster is the boss of planet Mecheye in Milky Way Wishes. In Ultra, that HL is silver instead of the usual gold. Also in SSU, there’s a unique background for this fight. A Heavy Lobster factory.
That makes me think. Is Heavy Lobster a common robot design in the Kirby Universe? Did Meta Knight’s crew really make HL or did they steal it from Mecheye? Did they create planet Mecheye as a secondary base?
I don’t know. Just some questions I guess
Also, in the anime, Nightmare owns a Heavy Lobster and HR-E is very similar to Heavy Lobster.
I’ve noticed that there’s lot of talk about “sealing powerful beings/objects”.
It's my birthday today! This Meteorz uploading is a great birthday present :DD
My birthday was 3 days ago.
Happy birthday btw!
It would be cool a what is kirby canon about galacta knight, and yes I know there's already one, but it's pretty outdated, you could tell some more theories revolving around both the light and dark form of him
Pretty sure he's intending to wait on that one seeing as there's hints of more lore to come for Galacta Knight.
We got Little Bit More Lore that Aeon Hero More Of His Title Name then his Real Name
I had to take a double take at the thought that hooplagoon (a random boss from rainbow curse) was a thing that the ancients made
The ancients basing their machines after void termina isn’t actually far off from concept art for planet robobot. At one point instead of fighting novas heart in access ark you’d fight a mechanical eye similar to zero and the inside looked like a copy of dark star. Here’s my source tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/KirbyVillainousFactions go to void termina, reused character design and click the “Star dream fight” link.
On top of that, Star Dream's core is a mechanical heart in the final version, not unlike the Jamba Heart at all
@@planetcheese I was going to mention that 😂
Hooplagoon's eyes remind me of the Novas. Could it be that Hooplagoon is a compass instead of a pocket watch? It's hard to tell what it's power would be, but with how its spikes protrude out i'd imagine it'd be some sort of way for the ancients to track down Jamba hearts to power their machinery. It probably extends out in every single way because of the fact Claycia is under control of Dark Crafter, as well as Kirby, a good form of Void given a focus on a kind heart. This is further supported with the fact that surrounding Hooplagoon in the background are some eyes that could be interpreted as Zero. And the final way Hooplagoon could be tracking void Laterally is with the black panel, which rotates all around only to stop down at Kirby.
Keep in mind this is all speculation, but it wouldn't be too far off to say its either a tracking device or a defense force against Void Terminas. Take your pick.
Back in my day
HR-D3 was the hardest Kirby robot boss
Until soul OS came
I never really thought to delve into this side of Kirby lore before, and now that I think about it, the whole "emotions give rise to sentience" mantra does seem to be oddly prevalent among the Kirby bosses. I wonder how this might be expanded upon in the future. Also, it should be noted that plot holes that come from past games (like Rock star not being colonized) are highly likely since the lore was minimal at that stage. Who knows, maybe Rockstar WILL get mechanized in an HD remaster some day?
Heavy Lobster needs a video of his own, I've heard that its a rogue war machine that gut the Halberd after Vul released it, but im not very sure tbh, ALL robots in Kirby need at LEAST a segment about them
For Heavy Lobster While It Made in Mekkia (shown in super star Ultra) It Does Look Likes It Takes Orders Form Captain Vul even the Kirby Anime Heavy Lobster First Thing was To do when inside the halberd was to Free De de de so Likey he Take Orders At Best not likey to have to much Selfawareness but that doesn't it mindless It Does Reaction alot when it blinded by the paint ability
Great theory! Really make you think that the ancients influenced a lot of Kirby lore!
A small food for thought to add to the idea that the galactic nova and star dream are either made with void termina or build as an copy of it.. the heart of nova looks very simulair to the jamba heart. Its either a jamba heart that they use to power the machines or the heart is a repleca of the jamba hearts mimicing its powers
the first thing I thought of when I saw the video title was the HR-H boss from Kirby 64
I just realized that there are arguments about what is and isn’t Void in both my favorite game and favorite series. What the heck.
Void is the foundation of great games
Wake up, Poyo.
Hollow Knight?
I have a video idea:The interesting theory that Bandana Dee could be the Waddle Dee from 64. Because they both share color palettes and Bandana Dee has a strong connection with Dedede and Kirby. Also the Waddle Dee is strong but, not as strong as Kirby and Bandana Dee is close to Kirby strength. And one of Bandana Dee's names were "Waddle Dee" in Return to Dreamland. Also noticing in Megaton Punch he can crack the Planet and in checkerboard chase the Waddle Dee destroys the blocks with ease. Seems like they have a lot in common in terms of strength. And Bandana Dee and the Waddle are very good in terms of speed. And both can jump pretty high! Also they both are very helpful when Kirby needs it the most. And let's not forget Kirby Star Allies the game where it possibly could've implied Bandana Dee to be the Waddle Dee in Adeleine and Ribbon's trailer.
So to be honest I think Bandana Dee and the 64 Waddle Dee are the same in one.
I find it interesting that the trailer implies Bandana Dee is the one from 64, while the title screen interactions go out of their way to use a generic Parasol Waddle Dee in all of the explicitly 64-themed interactions, leaving out Bandana Dee.
What does it mean? Well, I dunno. Maybe HAL wants to keep it ambiguous or something. But... especially if you include 64, then Bandana Dee has had an interesting little character arc across much of the series, and I like that, so it's definitely my headcanon at least. xD
Technology that sentient the pain and power.
Hold up. Egg Engines is one of the locations in KRDL. And Haltmann looks like an egg. Could it be...? Nah.
Haltmann could be related to the Ancients, but there's no concrete evidence to connect the two.
Magolor also looks like a egg
@@Octav2000 Ngl I always thought Magolor was more like a bean. But yeah he does looks like an egg XD
@@glacierwolf2155 egg
@@thenameyoushouldknowthekin8998 He's a bean egg
Epic!
Can't wait to see those theory videos come up!
the boss music at the start is awesome!
I think the HWC didn’t mechanize Rock Star because it didn’t have enough resources (compared to Popstar and Earth, at least) and they though it would be a waste of time
Nice observation, it very well could be. This could potentially fit into the Master Crown, even though it's not a machine.
I read this as “Sentient Madness” and was truly excited
I always thought Halcandra was *actually* Haltmann, Magolor and Susie's homeworld
Understandable, since the foot soldiers in RtDL's machine world and PRB's Haltmann base are the same
Now remember, notice how Susie wasn't mentioned under "sentient machines"
I love this channel
He's back baby
WOOO METEOR RETURNS
It still amazes me that the haltmann works company had access to blueprints from other planets and the ancients themselves.
My headcannon is that the HR in HRH, HRE, and HRD3 stands for Haltmann Robotics.
It looks like rock star was mechanized. At the pyramid, there are some patches of ground without sand that reveal mechanized ground.
*Rip every lil robot*
4:00
*NCR wants to know this planet's location*
By watching this series, I have learned that matpat NEEDS to cover kirby lore. The kirby series has around the same amount of lore as the fnaf seiries.
I mean, he DID try once. If you missed that... attempt... it resulted in him handing the reins to me for Kirby lore
@@Meteorz oh yea, I remember him giving you a shout out in the one episode.
@@Meteorz you gotta respect thathe admitted to it, tho
‘It only gained scintence when it was used’ so it was haunted?
I'm love that the metal general EX Has new 3th form when it's base on King Dedede's mech in one Kirby mass attack mini game & supposedly aper in one GameCube game base on "Kirby super star" & Kirby super star ultra" mechanics but not finished and the idea was almost forgotten until "Kirby star allies" when the idea is refound of this unfinished GameCube game and used on mordent time and it's from ok,to good enough after the last update was released so that's worth enough the troubles they...😁
Sure it was short, but that had the quality and connections of the others!
I always thought of Robobot's machines as take 1 for star allies' void.
THIS WASNT EXPECTED BUT I WELCOME IT-
same
This video had me questioning myself.
Damn, I don’t think I’ve ever been this early on any video
Of course, no robot can feel any emotion, like Kee-Boy. :smirk_cat:
Leave Keebo alone
Hehehe funny Oma joke😼😼😼😼
I love what is kirby cannon
Yes
Void is most definitely a "sentient machine" by your definitions, at least by the time he got hooked up to the Jamba Heart.
I dunno, Haltmann's characteristics seem awfully human. Maybe he's a survivor of Shiver Star, knowing what could happen to the universe if his mission for prosperity fails. A motivator, of sorts.
Hey, speaking of Heavy Mole, I always fancied that it was a reconstructed model of Kabula. If a blimp in the skies doesn't work, what about a mining drill in the ground? It explains why it's Dedede's "friend". And then it got rebuilt as a blimp for RotK, because nostalgia, and so on. Alternatively, Meta served to handle the Star Rod Incident as well, and was stationed right beside Heavy. What if he rebuilt the abandoned Heavy Mole into the deadlier Heavy _Lobster?_ One thing's for sure: Mekkai is a manufacturing factory for adapted Ancient technology... perhaps the Halberd itself, for example? At least for Kabula, the Heavies, and maybe even some of Halcandra and the HWC's stuff.
I’m pretty sure shiver Star is us in a few years
Either Shiver Star or Dangerous dinner.
Ngl I thought this was a troll at first
Clicked as soon as I saw it
1:14 I don’t know why but void termina’s true form opening up like that made me really uncomfortable
I think another example of mechanized planets, is mekkai a.k.a the metal planet from Milky Way wishes.
Mind in the P-R-O-G-R-A-M.
I laughed so hard when he said, "what is sentience"
Good job
Amazing
yes
Bro I love your content I love Kirby canon
Kirby is cool and all but what about the droid attack on the wookies?
Completely irrelevant to the video but I wonder if Void Termina is alone? What I mean is, it says he lives in all dimensions, kinda like he’s omnipresent, maybe that’s because he’s in a plane of reality that transcends all dimensions, and therefore can exist in all dimensions simultaneously. What if he’s not alone and there are other dark gods in that dimension, maybe some that are even more threatening and horrifying than he is. I mostly got this idea from H.P Lovecraft and Stephen King’s IT, but of course less terrifying like Marx.
i like your videos
So, Haltmann stole resources right? Haltway Go Go
Wait. Is this...
IS THIS A NEW PART OF KIRBY CANON AND NOT A REMAKE?!
Ok so shiver star probaly was completly mechanized notice factory investigation is remixed in robobot in haltmans powerplant and also the sort of sad felling the song has its in a minor key and has some mornful chorus and organs in the background and ends with a terryfing almost robotic sounding choir maybe those are the robots themselves
When Are You Kirby Canon On The Beast Pack And Elflin?
A time between space and time
Maybe Shiver Star's nuclear winter is actually the result of what happened to Earth after the dreadful year of 2020
Not even 3 minutes and I'm already commenting
Could Galacta Knight, Dark Meta Knight, Morpho Knight, and Meta knight be the 4 heroes who sealed void away,
Galacta knight was sealed for his immense power and was able to used those heart shaped spear things, morpho knight always ends Galacta knight after he is released from his prison as if he knew about him, meta knight in the anime apparently taught the huge kabu everything, dark meta knight can control the mirrors and his sword and mask are different from meta knight
A bit confused. I thought it was stated the Metal General GAVE Haltmann his blueprints, because Egg Engines had already been overthrown by the General BEFORE hand and because of this the General And Haltmann Works Co. were similars and not adversaries.
This video seems to retcon this, with Metal General instead warding OFF the Haltmann Works Co. and avoiding assimilation...or maybe I’m just interpreting this wrong.
When did it ever say that metal general overthrown egg engines or that he gave haltmann co his blueprints? Was it on miiverse?
Bagel God just a bit of theory crafting and head cannon I guess from my part. I feel like Meteroz mentioned it in the Haltmann video but maybe not. I’m just not entirely sure what Metal General’s purpose for confronting Kirby was.
If he’s a native of Egg Engines that guards against intruders, then what happened to the rest of the natural life? Was it always so cold, and metallic? You can see in the background of his boss fight multiple towers and houses so was there a society that once lived there? If so, what happened to them? We really don’t see any civilization on Egg Engines apart from the machinery and the basic Kirby fauna.
Did the ancients use to take residence there? So many unanswered and intriguing questions...
ToxiCastigator well it was on halcandra were artifacts made by the ancients like the lor starcutter were hidden. So they must have been there at one point. Heck hyness and magolor (whos from halcandra) look very similar. if they would hide things like the master crown and lor on halcandra then it must be important. It makes sense to me that the Ancient built and lived in egg engines for some time.
Machines are cool
My lord and savior Kirby has killed many demons in his life
Wouldn't Coily Rattler, the Paint sisters, and flowery woods be sentient. I know it doesn't have anything to do with machines but I mean Coily rattler was a statue, flower woods was a flower and the paint sisters are well paintings
Yea, they are definitely sentient.
Tbh, I haven't played planet robobobot but you mention that Haltmman reconstructed Stardream, so that probably that the original one is still out there?
hey meteorz, wanted to ask if you have seen the nintendo news on super kirby clash and the foreshadowing of the dark aeon hero showing up in a future game.
Talk about The anime and whether or not its really canon or if the characters exist in the game universe given the games especially the recent ones have been making references to it
HR-E, HR-H, HR-D3... HR= Haltman Robot?!?! 🤔
PLEASE BRING WHAT IS KIRBY CANON MORE FREQUENTLY PLEASEEEE
Did you know that gigabyte grounds was actually a part of overload ocean, before it gets sucked up into the blenders/vacuum cleaners. We know this because of Kirby fighters two, with the stage called “ dried up sea”. Just a cool fact. Not much lore.
the blenders looked like they had oil or petroleum. maybe they sucked it dry for oil?
I wasn’t even notified yet I still manage to click early
Oh, man...
Gim, he's always been the confusing one to me,
he sure seems alive but he's just a little gas powered automaton, what makes him special?
he has a hat and a yoyo.
Maybe when haltman took resourses from Rock Star, he destroyed it in the prosses. This will explain why Rock Star's Japenese Name is Destroyed Star. this situation for Rock Star is WORSE....then Shiver Star/Earth.
I don't really think the background music here works very well, I found it kinda distracting and grating. Other than that, amazing content as always!
But wait what if all these senescent machine are using the gears the Lor Star Cutter uses.
Star Dream is like Cell on dragon ball in a way
Only you can make something that sounds mundane into something interesting.
The Lor Starcutter is sentient?