I mean he did fire the original director and got Sam Levinson to rewrite 80% of the show and is defending this show and his acting like his life depends on it...
Abel has been arguing in twitter saying Tedro is supposed to be a bad character, Tedro is supposed to be hated by mass but in the finale it was portrayed as if he is some kind of victim that we should empathize. Dafuq are you trying to tell us Weeknd? Also how come Jocelyn sabotaged Jennie's career when Jennie took her song? It doesn't make sense And if Jocelyn wanted to keep Tedros to her then why she made the execs pay him to keep him away?
Yeah the Levinson-Tesfaye copium strategies have been very tiring. At first they went with the "it's a comedy, people have totally misunderstood our point entirely" route. Even if you take into account that Tedros isn't supposed to be likeable, he is still a boring character and a terrible antagonist for the series.
1) Abel was explaining that UNTIL it got revealed that Tedros is getting manipulated by Jocelyn he is the bad guy. He was written to be the bad one, and then we get revealed that he is not the only bad guy. Good idea, bad execution, because I didn’t feel like Tedros was bad, I felt Abel’s acting was just horrific and felt digusted by his poor acting skills. So at the end of the day it worked out ig lololol. 2) She almost had the song, there was no written deal, that was made, so it was just legally alright to take the song away from Jennie. Maybe that was a critique from the show. That often times Artists get fucked by the legal permissions of companies to execute their power without the consideration of the artist. If that was a critique, then it was executed horribly. 3) Manipulation. It’s a typical push and pull manipulation tactic. She likes to manipulate her little dogs. Its a power play, her mother manipulated her whole life, which manifested itself in Jocelyn’s relationships. It was also kind of teased that she didn’t do it the first time. She didn’t heal herself mentally in any way, so this is her coping mechanism. There was so much potential, it’s really disappointing.
@@limlimxo 1. That's what I'm trying to say. The finale portrayed Tedro only as a victim. The finale showed as if Jocelyn is THE BAD guy, as if previous episodes never happened. 2. It's not possible for Jocelyn to sabotage Jennie's career. Jennie didn't have a career to begin with. She stole Jocelyn song which means Jocelyn got back what's her. Jennie isn't a Jocelyn victim 3. The push and pull thing you've mentioned isn't what they've shown
@@pratyushpavansaikia8161 1)Yeah but he was arguing about the scenes BEFORE it got revealed that Jocelyn is the bad person. All of his tweets were responses to reactions of episode 2-3, therefore he was arguing against the portrayal of Tedros of ep 2-3. Also, a victim can be a bad guy too, just because you are a victim in one circumstance doesn’t mean you are not a bad guy in another. You can be both, which Tedros is. Both the bad guy and the Victim 2) She got promised that the song was going to be hers. Yes she didn’t have a career, I wan’t arguing against that. Jocelyn “stole” the START of Jennie’s career, even after J told Jennie it would be fine for her to take it. It was not J’s song to begin with, she did not write it, in fact almost all of the songs were not written by her. That’s basic information of pop stars. Hired ghostwriters of the company did, so the song is from the company. J could’ve easily refused, she literally has a whole album, but she didn’t. Even if that was nasty from Jennie, it is also quite nasty from J, both nasty actions taken. 3) Push: She got herself out of his sight, released tons of information about him in order to make his life harder, she told him indirectly never to contact her again. Therefore he became more obsessed, as we can see he saw that he is powerless, and the dynamic changes, it’s not Jocelyn anymore who is the lost puppy, but Tedros as we can see how he acts after J introduced him to the public Pull: She gave the guys permission to let him enter her space, she is flirty/friendly again as if nothing happened, she let the whole world know they are dating It’s not the typical Push and Pull dynamic, its much more exaggerated, yet it can be seen as a symbol on how the push and pull can be used. Every art we see is a much exaggerated piece of reality, so don’t expect art to be realistic, usually it is not. There’s a reason why it isn’t called Reality. No way I’m defending this trash, I’m just defending the truth lol
Did everyone forget that Euphoria is an adaptation of an Israeli teen drama? Levinson has no good original ideas. Look at Season 2 - which has no material to adapt - as well as Malcom and Marie. They are both missed opportunities. He got lucky ONE time.
The scenes without Tedros were not bad. In fact almost every scene that didnt include tedros was interesting and carried what miniscule plot the show had. The cinematography was beautiful. Iiterally took the time to just mute and watch certain scenes because of how beautifully they were shot. But wow was this such a waste.
Why should a show “say anything”? Are you craving the old days of the Hayes Code where a story HAD to have some moral lesson? Idk what’s happening to audiences that this has become a worthwhile critique. We need shows that refuse to moralise and instead just tell unexpected stories just as much as we need “shows that say something”
@@jakestroll6518 The show is trying to say something about Hollywood exploitation that's the point of this show. The problem is that it ends saying nothing about the topic as Tedros whose presented as the Weinstein of the show is all of a sudden seen as a victim when he's been anything but.
I actually feel like they could have done a "goofy" "loser" cult leader thing a long with a terrifying one but, it couldn't be at the same time. Like if at first he was scary but, once her team like exposed him, he became goofy because that power was taken away. You can also make "loser" characters seem scary in a Jake Gyllenhaal from Nightcrawler kind of way. Or a bad guy that has a chip on their shoulder and is insecure and violently overreacts like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. But this all goes back to acting ability and direction. Both the writing and acting wasn't good in The Idol for Tedros.
I’m sorry but Abel should stick to singing because that’s what he’s good at. Doing a wide variety of things is great and all ,but when it’s ruining other experienced actors, or people that are experiencing in that certain field, that’s when it gets to be too much.
The intimacy coordinator was there to make sure she felt safe and that the execs weren’t making her do things she didn’t want to-the role of the intimacy coordinator is to make sure stars aren’t exploited. To see that character be shoved in the closet to make some weak ass commentary about Jocelyn wanting to show her boobs is so annoying-because it’s actually less feminist to try to make fun of a parameter that is there to protect young stars, not the opposite 😒 especially in a post me-too world Also, the plot twist doesn’t even work. Multiple characters like Xander and others in her team talk about how awful her mother was to her, which means they saw her be abused. It makes no sense that they’re trying to make her seem like she’s the villain and The Weeknd is the victim when most of the show is spent showing him abuse others lol
I think it’s worthwhile to consider the absurdity of imposing “protections” on a woman who doesn’t want them. I the show should have stuck with this theme because it ties with expectations of “respectability” with mainstream female celebrities. The return of puritan culture and paternalistic ideas of what people can and can’t do with their own bodies in the name of “protecting them”. I also wish they’d lampooned this crazy idea that because many women like this accommodation that ALL women should be forcefully subject to it. If the actress wants to improv on the day, she should be allowed to reserve that right.
@@jakestroll6518 Museluver got one thing wrong: intimacy coordinators are not just for the actors/actresses, it's also for the dozen other people crammed in the room with them! Doesn't matter if the actress wants to show her boobs if no one else consented to seeing them! and that's where the pressure comes in again, if you make the decision to get naked IN THE ROOM, then the camera people and everyone else are going to feel pressured to say 'yeah it's fine' bc they're on the spot. that's why all of that has to be negotiated and written down beforehand. So no, it's not just about protecting the women. it's about literally everyone else in the room as well. A rare case where the standard is the same regardless of gender: if a guy can't suddenly drop his pants and whip his dick out in a room full of people, a girl can't suddenly get naked either
@@jakestroll6518 The point of Intimacy Coordinators is that they make sure that the talent isn't being exploited. The reason why there is a need for such a job is because of the culture that has surrounded Hollywood for years with degenerates masquerading as directors and producers.
@@jakestroll6518the intimacy coordinator explains that she can show whatever she wants but it needs to be included in the contract which would take 48 hrs and cant be spontaneous on set when the terms of nudity have already been agreed upon by her. So its not telling her what she can or cannot do just making sure she isnt pressured into doing more than what she has agreed to. Because that's exactly how it would he If someone were being exploited. They would agree for one thing and would be asked to do something different on the actual set. That's why its important to put the exact nature of the nudity into a legal format before hand and then stick to it. Makes complete sense.
Everyone already knows that Abel kicked out the female director because he felt the show was too much from a "woman's perspective" and we know about his Twitter fights. But I don't think we realize how interesting the show would've been without him.
This show would have been better with an actual actor in the role of Tedros, TBQH. We as the viewers shouldn't want to sleep with Tedros or have him wreck our lives in a surreal, erotic kind of way. But I wish to God I could figure out why Jocelyn wanted him to.
The tedros character was written to be a loser so how would a different actor portray that any differently. You're just a hater who is denying what is actually happening
Great video, just one little thing from a fellow non-native English speaker who totally gets how similar idioms can be confusing: "off the cuff" means impromptu, something not prepared in advance. "Flying off the handle" means losing one's temper. Anyway, kinda nuts that even HBO called it a sleazy love story!
I feel like they could've either dropped Tedros out of the show and have a compelling story of a pop star gaining control over her career. Or they could've focused on Tedros, as some all-powerful cult leader who manipulates singers. He sees Jocelyn as his next big target, starts manipulating her to take over her career, and then bam, by the end of the show we figure out that she was manipulating him. That's kinda what they've been up to, but with the main focus on Jocelyn, he's kinda like a secondary character who only burdens the obtuse plot of the show, and, as a result, neither the plot nor the big reveal work.
Direction is bad. There is no cult they were bragging about. A few wannabe dancers and karaoke singers look like an audition at hs not a cult. Show is boring vulgar and... boring. No story was told. Nada. None. Rien
I haven't seen any of this show but your video was fantastic nonetheless and I was glued to it. So well done! I wish we could have had the show you described here
I guess if there is a 3th season of euphoria then I guess HBO is gonna be from now on watching the writing and production of it really closely and seeing how far Sam will try and take it and they might even put there on ghost writer as an overseer of the script for the season just to check on it every day to see what changes Sam made and approve it or not each day as well as babysit the man going forward.😒
I am a massive The Weeknd fan, but I think he was the wrong choice. He is a great cinephile and possibly jumped at the chance.However He. Did come across as creepy and cringy which in part is ok, but he is just not a shouty person. The soundtrack is awesome, sell out tours so think his fans will not desert him 😊
@@thatguy1488 The problem is that he's not a good actor. His character comes off as weak and pathetic even when he's threatening people. Like in the "I will curbstomp you" scene, his mousy voice ends up making the scene into a meme.
I really enjoyed the approach of this video, you actually gave it a fair shot and explained why the show sucks instead of giving a boring recap and laughing and saying 'that was cringe' like most you-tubers who made a video on this show. Nothing against those You-tubers, but I enjoy a much more analytical or thoughtful approach such as this one. I want to learn why something is bad on a much deeper level. And the context you added for the author and the industry and the Weekend himself just made the video even better. Really great video overall, ill have to binge your stuff now.
I'll admit upfront that I do also delve into that kind of content at times. In this case I did it find it truly disappointing that this is the end product of a Levinson-Tesfaye collaboration. Thank you for the kind words!
@@criticalcoffeethe previous comment is literally what I was going to comment to you but as a writer thank for this breakdown as you brought so much insighy
The idol was extremely disappointing. He is a great storyteller but in his music. All of his albums and mixtapes tell a story, especially in his newer albums. I’ve been listening to his music his whole career so when I heard about this show I was stoked even more so when I found out he was starring in it. But I can’t defend this show. The writing, acting and presentation all fell flat and literally everything that happened led no where. No character arcs. No setting up the finales “twist”. No pay offs. Nothing, it’s crazy. I wanted to like this show, truly. But it was a boring cringfest that ultimately said nothing. Oh and the bandages weren’t because he was “beat up”. It was him healing from “plastic surgery” which was a part of the theme from that album. Your interpretations of his music and their respective videos aren’t exactly right however it’s all up to interpretation at the end of the day.
Thanks for the kind words (to me it feels like it's held together by duct-tape, there were many late stage additions that I had to jam into the video :D ) But thank you so much for watching
show seems like it would’ve been better if Abel was the center role character instead of a cult leader. it would’ve helped his acting since he’s basically lived the live for the past decade.
Fantastic video! There's been a lot of essays on how bad the show was but I haven't really heard much about the specific points you mentioned, which were really valid critique! I dislike using the word cringe too but I couldn't stop thinking that about tedros 😅 scenes without him were deffo much more comfortable and entertaining
Very disappointed in myself for not realizing Moses Sumney is in the show. Oh dear, imagine comparing the guy who sang "I'm not trying to go to bed with you, I just want to make out in my car" to Prince
21:34 I don’t think anyone is drawn to him, in the narrative of the show it looks more like he picks particularly vulnerable people and pretends to be their savior
I didn't give a second thought to The Weekend, assuming it to be lowest common denominator pop, until he decided to team-up with Oneohtrix Point Never--currently my favourite (and I think far too underrated) artists currently alive and creating.
I don't agree with this take to be honest. The original concept (based on which the Amy Seimetz did her work) was from Levinson-Tesfaye-Fahim. So either the potential was there from the start (and was expanded upon by Seimetz) or the show never had potential (meaning Seimetz couldn't have fixed it).
Absolutely as I expected! It was an album launch, nothing short of brilliant and controversial-a true stroke of marketing genius. Everyone is buzzing about it! The artist has ingeniously curated a complete idol playlist and incorporated scenes from the Idol series into captivating music videos. The result? The Abel has undeniably conquered the music industry, selling out stadiums and even striking a lucrative deal with HBO. It's safe to say that success is firmly in his grasp.
It was an interesting premise poorly executed. I did think it had a lot of potential as well but I think with just having a minimum 5 episode season and lack of female prospective, it just blew up to be this….thing
Was the arm-ripping/baby-arm-regeneration/jumping out the window scene ripped from the last season of The Boys (AKA an homage), or was it the other way around? One surely informed the other.
I did say that I've liked his *recent* output. I never said that I had a) listened to his older stuff, b) watched those music videos. Shame if there's some evidence in the older ones, but I really wanted to discuss False Alarm and How Do I Make You Love Me so those were the ones that I picked for this video
I actually liked the show. By the end, the choices I hated in the first episodes made sense to me. I see the dhow as aimd fuck. I think they make obviously bad choices to get people talking and also pissing them off. I hated much of the music because the lyrics are so cringe but even World Class Sinner grew on me. By the end I liked the show and the soundtrack is on repeat. But the bigest mind fuck is how the hate of the show went viral. People hate binged the show while You Tubers of all types made videos about how much they hated it and point out that you should too. I dont think they realize how much free publicity they gave the show. The viewing numbers are actually higher than the first episodes of Euphoria. They may even get the show a second season and you can't tell me that people won't feel compelled to watch out of fomo. Show producers don't care if you hate it, they just care if you watch it. Now that is a real mind fuck. I hope we get a season 2.
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what potential? the cast are all overrated A holes
Only Henry Cavill's
Director/Writer goals
yes
Yer goddamned right!
i have a theory that this show is the the weeknd’s fantasy and sam levinson is equally a creep, so he was able to execute his artistic vision.
I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the case
I mean he did fire the original director and got Sam Levinson to rewrite 80% of the show and is defending this show and his acting like his life depends on it...
Bro he literally tells us he's heartless in that one song, why are any of us surprised lol
I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case, honestly
You mean that the top pop star Wknd have no girls to penetrate, bdsm and film it? Well then he is not such a star. Every minion has a groupie
Abel has been arguing in twitter saying Tedro is supposed to be a bad character, Tedro is supposed to be hated by mass but in the finale it was portrayed as if he is some kind of victim that we should empathize. Dafuq are you trying to tell us Weeknd?
Also how come Jocelyn sabotaged Jennie's career when Jennie took her song? It doesn't make sense
And if Jocelyn wanted to keep Tedros to her then why she made the execs pay him to keep him away?
You can me that a pile of crap looks like gourmet chocolate ice cream but at the end of the day the substance is crap.
Yeah the Levinson-Tesfaye copium strategies have been very tiring. At first they went with the "it's a comedy, people have totally misunderstood our point entirely" route. Even if you take into account that Tedros isn't supposed to be likeable, he is still a boring character and a terrible antagonist for the series.
1) Abel was explaining that UNTIL it got revealed that Tedros is getting manipulated by Jocelyn he is the bad guy. He was written to be the bad one, and then we get revealed that he is not the only bad guy. Good idea, bad execution, because I didn’t feel like Tedros was bad, I felt Abel’s acting was just horrific and felt digusted by his poor acting skills. So at the end of the day it worked out ig lololol.
2) She almost had the song, there was no written deal, that was made, so it was just legally alright to take the song away from Jennie. Maybe that was a critique from the show. That often times Artists get fucked by the legal permissions of companies to execute their power without the consideration of the artist. If that was a critique, then it was executed horribly.
3) Manipulation. It’s a typical push and pull manipulation tactic. She likes to manipulate her little dogs. Its a power play, her mother manipulated her whole life, which manifested itself in Jocelyn’s relationships. It was also kind of teased that she didn’t do it the first time. She didn’t heal herself mentally in any way, so this is her coping mechanism. There was so much potential, it’s really disappointing.
@@limlimxo
1. That's what I'm trying to say. The finale portrayed Tedro only as a victim. The finale showed as if Jocelyn is THE BAD guy, as if previous episodes never happened.
2. It's not possible for Jocelyn to sabotage Jennie's career. Jennie didn't have a career to begin with. She stole Jocelyn song which means Jocelyn got back what's her. Jennie isn't a Jocelyn victim
3. The push and pull thing you've mentioned isn't what they've shown
@@pratyushpavansaikia8161 1)Yeah but he was arguing about the scenes BEFORE it got revealed that Jocelyn is the bad person. All of his tweets were responses to reactions of episode 2-3, therefore he was arguing against the portrayal of Tedros of ep 2-3. Also, a victim can be a bad guy too, just because you are a victim in one circumstance doesn’t mean you are not a bad guy in another. You can be both, which Tedros is. Both the bad guy and the Victim
2) She got promised that the song was going to be hers. Yes she didn’t have a career, I wan’t arguing against that. Jocelyn “stole” the START of Jennie’s career, even after J told Jennie it would be fine for her to take it. It was not J’s song to begin with, she did not write it, in fact almost all of the songs were not written by her. That’s basic information of pop stars. Hired ghostwriters of the company did, so the song is from the company. J could’ve easily refused, she literally has a whole album, but she didn’t. Even if that was nasty from Jennie, it is also quite nasty from J, both nasty actions taken.
3) Push: She got herself out of his sight, released tons of information about him in order to make his life harder, she told him indirectly never to contact her again.
Therefore he became more obsessed, as we can see he saw that he is powerless, and the dynamic changes, it’s not Jocelyn anymore who is the lost puppy, but Tedros as we can see how he acts after J introduced him to the public
Pull: She gave the guys permission to let him enter her space, she is flirty/friendly again as if nothing happened, she let the whole world know they are dating
It’s not the typical Push and Pull dynamic, its much more exaggerated, yet it can be seen as a symbol on how the push and pull can be used. Every art we see is a much exaggerated piece of reality, so don’t expect art to be realistic, usually it is not. There’s a reason why it isn’t called Reality. No way I’m defending this trash, I’m just defending the truth lol
Did everyone forget that Euphoria is an adaptation of an Israeli teen drama? Levinson has no good original ideas. Look at Season 2 - which has no material to adapt - as well as Malcom and Marie. They are both missed opportunities. He got lucky ONE time.
Tough to say anything as I haven't seen the original
The scenes without Tedros were not bad. In fact almost every scene that didnt include tedros was interesting and carried what miniscule plot the show had. The cinematography was beautiful. Iiterally took the time to just mute and watch certain scenes because of how beautifully they were shot. But wow was this such a waste.
The cinematography is pretty good! It's nothing too flashy but the aesthetic (film grain included) fits the show perfectly.
It truly had potential and was such a disappointment. The show didn't really say anything and pretty much just felt like softcore porn.
Why should a show “say anything”? Are you craving the old days of the Hayes Code where a story HAD to have some moral lesson? Idk what’s happening to audiences that this has become a worthwhile critique. We need shows that refuse to moralise and instead just tell unexpected stories just as much as we need “shows that say something”
@@jakestroll6518 The show is trying to say something about Hollywood exploitation that's the point of this show. The problem is that it ends saying nothing about the topic as Tedros whose presented as the Weinstein of the show is all of a sudden seen as a victim when he's been anything but.
I actually feel like they could have done a "goofy" "loser" cult leader thing a long with a terrifying one but, it couldn't be at the same time. Like if at first he was scary but, once her team like exposed him, he became goofy because that power was taken away. You can also make "loser" characters seem scary in a Jake Gyllenhaal from Nightcrawler kind of way. Or a bad guy that has a chip on their shoulder and is insecure and violently overreacts like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. But this all goes back to acting ability and direction. Both the writing and acting wasn't good in The Idol for Tedros.
I’m sorry but Abel should stick to singing because that’s what he’s good at. Doing a wide variety of things is great and all ,but when it’s ruining other experienced actors, or people that are experiencing in that certain field, that’s when it gets to be too much.
SO much potential. I wish I could see Seimetz's version. I feel it would have been so much better.
lol somebody should start the #releasetheseimetzcut or something
The intimacy coordinator was there to make sure she felt safe and that the execs weren’t making her do things she didn’t want to-the role of the intimacy coordinator is to make sure stars aren’t exploited. To see that character be shoved in the closet to make some weak ass commentary about Jocelyn wanting to show her boobs is so annoying-because it’s actually less feminist to try to make fun of a parameter that is there to protect young stars, not the opposite 😒 especially in a post me-too world
Also, the plot twist doesn’t even work. Multiple characters like Xander and others in her team talk about how awful her mother was to her, which means they saw her be abused. It makes no sense that they’re trying to make her seem like she’s the villain and The Weeknd is the victim when most of the show is spent showing him abuse others lol
she wanted him gone and asked for him to be gone cause it was ruining the vibe ...she wanted to show her breasts
I think it’s worthwhile to consider the absurdity of imposing “protections” on a woman who doesn’t want them. I the show should have stuck with this theme because it ties with expectations of “respectability” with mainstream female celebrities. The return of puritan culture and paternalistic ideas of what people can and can’t do with their own bodies in the name of “protecting them”. I also wish they’d lampooned this crazy idea that because many women like this accommodation that ALL women should be forcefully subject to it. If the actress wants to improv on the day, she should be allowed to reserve that right.
@@jakestroll6518 Museluver got one thing wrong: intimacy coordinators are not just for the actors/actresses, it's also for the dozen other people crammed in the room with them! Doesn't matter if the actress wants to show her boobs if no one else consented to seeing them! and that's where the pressure comes in again, if you make the decision to get naked IN THE ROOM, then the camera people and everyone else are going to feel pressured to say 'yeah it's fine' bc they're on the spot. that's why all of that has to be negotiated and written down beforehand. So no, it's not just about protecting the women. it's about literally everyone else in the room as well. A rare case where the standard is the same regardless of gender: if a guy can't suddenly drop his pants and whip his dick out in a room full of people, a girl can't suddenly get naked either
@@jakestroll6518 The point of Intimacy Coordinators is that they make sure that the talent isn't being exploited. The reason why there is a need for such a job is because of the culture that has surrounded Hollywood for years with degenerates masquerading as directors and producers.
@@jakestroll6518the intimacy coordinator explains that she can show whatever she wants but it needs to be included in the contract which would take 48 hrs and cant be spontaneous on set when the terms of nudity have already been agreed upon by her. So its not telling her what she can or cannot do just making sure she isnt pressured into doing more than what she has agreed to. Because that's exactly how it would he If someone were being exploited. They would agree for one thing and would be asked to do something different on the actual set. That's why its important to put the exact nature of the nudity into a legal format before hand and then stick to it. Makes complete sense.
Everyone already knows that Abel kicked out the female director because he felt the show was too much from a "woman's perspective" and we know about his Twitter fights. But I don't think we realize how interesting the show would've been without him.
i think it’s v important to point out that sam levinson did not create euphoria! euphoria is an israeli drama created by ron leshem!!
This show would have been better with an actual actor in the role of Tedros, TBQH. We as the viewers shouldn't want to sleep with Tedros or have him wreck our lives in a surreal, erotic kind of way. But I wish to God I could figure out why Jocelyn wanted him to.
Honestly Michael Mando might eventually fit
Kelvin Harrison Jr. should’ve been casted
The tedros character was written to be a loser so how would a different actor portray that any differently. You're just a hater who is denying what is actually happening
Great video, just one little thing from a fellow non-native English speaker who totally gets how similar idioms can be confusing: "off the cuff" means impromptu, something not prepared in advance. "Flying off the handle" means losing one's temper. Anyway, kinda nuts that even HBO called it a sleazy love story!
oh damnit :D I meant off the handle. Thank you for the correction
@criticalcoffee I figured, no worries! Really great video. You're pretty polished, watch that subscriber count go up!
I feel like they could've either dropped Tedros out of the show and have a compelling story of a pop star gaining control over her career. Or they could've focused on Tedros, as some all-powerful cult leader who manipulates singers. He sees Jocelyn as his next big target, starts manipulating her to take over her career, and then bam, by the end of the show we figure out that she was manipulating him. That's kinda what they've been up to, but with the main focus on Jocelyn, he's kinda like a secondary character who only burdens the obtuse plot of the show, and, as a result, neither the plot nor the big reveal work.
Moral of the story: never let Sam Levinson cook
Well done. You‘ve said it all. The potential the story had and it was all wasted…
This video is incredible! Thank you so much for taking a fair and balanced look at the show. I hope your channel continues to grow and flourish 💕
thank you for the kind words! 🙏
Direction is bad. There is no cult they were bragging about. A few wannabe dancers and karaoke singers look like an audition at hs not a cult. Show is boring vulgar and... boring. No story was told. Nada. None. Rien
I haven't seen any of this show but your video was fantastic nonetheless and I was glued to it. So well done! I wish we could have had the show you described here
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
Will point out that They brought mike dean in the show bc he’s touring with The Weeknd now…..sorta like living the show in real life sort of thing.
I guess if there is a 3th season of euphoria then I guess HBO is gonna be from now on watching the writing and production of it really closely and seeing how far Sam will try and take it and they might even put there on ghost writer as an overseer of the script for the season just to check on it every day to see what changes Sam made and approve it or not each day as well as babysit the man going forward.😒
I am a massive The Weeknd fan, but I think he was the wrong choice. He is a great cinephile and possibly jumped at the chance.However He. Did come across as creepy and cringy which in part is ok, but he is just not a shouty person. The soundtrack is awesome, sell out tours so think his fans will not desert him 😊
The character was written to be that tho. So coming across as creepy and cringe would be by definition... Good acting ..
@@thatguy1488 The problem is that he's not a good actor. His character comes off as weak and pathetic even when he's threatening people. Like in the "I will curbstomp you" scene, his mousy voice ends up making the scene into a meme.
can’t believe this doesn’t have more views & you don’t have more subscribers
Yeah, he's really good!
@@SilverScale. Thanks to you both :)
You are the best critic I have watched on the Idol. I have watched a lot ! Some are awful 😊
10:14 this was definitely Paprika vibes which can also be visually disturbing but is such a good movie lol. Creepy asl though
Loved the "meep meep" censoring
I smell an underrated youtuber
hey, thank YOU for taking the time to watch. I just try my best :)
@@criticalcoffee thank you for making such good content 👏, keep going my dude, you can make it big 🥳
I really enjoyed the approach of this video, you actually gave it a fair shot and explained why the show sucks instead of giving a boring recap and laughing and saying 'that was cringe' like most you-tubers who made a video on this show. Nothing against those You-tubers, but I enjoy a much more analytical or thoughtful approach such as this one. I want to learn why something is bad on a much deeper level. And the context you added for the author and the industry and the Weekend himself just made the video even better.
Really great video overall, ill have to binge your stuff now.
I'll admit upfront that I do also delve into that kind of content at times. In this case I did it find it truly disappointing that this is the end product of a Levinson-Tesfaye collaboration.
Thank you for the kind words!
@@criticalcoffeethe previous comment is literally what I was going to comment to you but as a writer thank for this breakdown as you brought so much insighy
The idol was extremely disappointing. He is a great storyteller but in his music. All of his albums and mixtapes tell a story, especially in his newer albums. I’ve been listening to his music his whole career so when I heard about this show I was stoked even more so when I found out he was starring in it. But I can’t defend this show. The writing, acting and presentation all fell flat and literally everything that happened led no where. No character arcs. No setting up the finales “twist”. No pay offs. Nothing, it’s crazy. I wanted to like this show, truly. But it was a boring cringfest that ultimately said nothing.
Oh and the bandages weren’t because he was “beat up”. It was him healing from “plastic surgery” which was a part of the theme from that album. Your interpretations of his music and their respective videos aren’t exactly right however it’s all up to interpretation at the end of the day.
amazing video omg, this is so well done
Thanks for the kind words (to me it feels like it's held together by duct-tape, there were many late stage additions that I had to jam into the video :D ) But thank you so much for watching
thanks for the essay, I'm very agree with most of things you have mentioned about the show
Thank you for watching!
show seems like it would’ve been better if Abel was the center role character instead of a cult leader. it would’ve helped his acting since he’s basically lived the live for the past decade.
Such a great analysis!
Thank you for watching!
Fantastic video! There's been a lot of essays on how bad the show was but I haven't really heard much about the specific points you mentioned, which were really valid critique!
I dislike using the word cringe too but I couldn't stop thinking that about tedros 😅 scenes without him were deffo much more comfortable and entertaining
Very disappointed in myself for not realizing Moses Sumney is in the show. Oh dear, imagine comparing the guy who sang "I'm not trying to go to bed with you, I just want to make out in my car" to Prince
Very well done video
Thank you for watching!
Rlease the Amy Siemtz version
21:34 I don’t think anyone is drawn to him, in the narrative of the show it looks more like he picks particularly vulnerable people and pretends to be their savior
I didn't give a second thought to The Weekend, assuming it to be lowest common denominator pop, until he decided to team-up with Oneohtrix Point Never--currently my favourite (and I think far too underrated) artists currently alive and creating.
I vote for season 2 without the two creeps and get back that woman show-runner. I would watch. But nah.... pervs ended it to the end
honestly? there was no potential sorry, only if the original director had stayed
I don't agree with this take to be honest. The original concept (based on which the Amy Seimetz did her work) was from Levinson-Tesfaye-Fahim. So either the potential was there from the start (and was expanded upon by Seimetz) or the show never had potential (meaning Seimetz couldn't have fixed it).
Absolutely as I expected! It was an album launch, nothing short of brilliant and controversial-a true stroke of marketing genius. Everyone is buzzing about it! The artist has ingeniously curated a complete idol playlist and incorporated scenes from the Idol series into captivating music videos. The result? The Abel has undeniably conquered the music industry, selling out stadiums and even striking a lucrative deal with HBO. It's safe to say that success is firmly in his grasp.
It was an interesting premise poorly executed. I did think it had a lot of potential as well but I think with just having a minimum 5 episode season and lack of female prospective, it just blew up to be this….thing
Was the arm-ripping/baby-arm-regeneration/jumping out the window scene ripped from the last season of The Boys (AKA an homage), or was it the other way around? One surely informed the other.
How you gonna ignore the weekends earlier music videos like 28 or pretty which is very similar to the “scenes” in The idol
I did say that I've liked his *recent* output. I never said that I had a) listened to his older stuff, b) watched those music videos. Shame if there's some evidence in the older ones, but I really wanted to discuss False Alarm and How Do I Make You Love Me so those were the ones that I picked for this video
From the moment I saw the trailer, my thoughts said that this will either become a classic or just plain bad
There was too much sexual scenes and they were too damn long and disturbing.
So disappointing. Tedros was awful but I honestly liked most of the characters especially finkelstein and the manager
I’m sure this video is great but you spent way too long at the beginning just gassing up the Weeknd so I couldn’t finish it 🤷♂️
11:21 but hey time is precious, no judgment here
Audience score is just a bunch of crazy kpop stans.
Best show of the summer & the soundtrack is excellent!
I'm glad you liked it!
is this show not based on Selena Gomez? there are a lot of similarities between her career and Jocelyn's
It got the greenlight anyway , so .....
Show was great. Just learn how some people live their life
great video +1
Only bad thing was abels acting
I actually liked the show. By the end, the choices I hated in the first episodes made sense to me. I see the dhow as aimd fuck. I think they make obviously bad choices to get people talking and also pissing them off. I hated much of the music because the lyrics are so cringe but even World Class Sinner grew on me. By the end I liked the show and the soundtrack is on repeat. But the bigest mind fuck is how the hate of the show went viral. People hate binged the show while You Tubers of all types made videos about how much they hated it and point out that you should too. I dont think they realize how much free publicity they gave the show. The viewing numbers are actually higher than the first episodes of Euphoria. They may even get the show a second season and you can't tell me that people won't feel compelled to watch out of fomo. Show producers don't care if you hate it, they just care if you watch it. Now that is a real mind fuck. I hope we get a season 2.
the idol was gooooddd asfff all yall hopping on the bandwagon cant think for yourselfs each episode was so fire and had me clinging to my seat
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