id imagine if in a stage there was a two paths that are split by lasers or glass and if you were fast enough you could go to the other path it would be pretty cool
It's so comforting to know that Sonic Team is now using the gameplay of Sonic 06 as a basis for this new release. I mean, if it ain't broke why fix it right? When I think of solid foundations, I think of Sonic 06.
@@DwayneRidgwayOfficial I honestly found it way more convenient. Jumping button was solely for jumping, Homing attack was mapped separately specifically for that, and boost was on a trigger thats regularly used in certain games for boosting rather than on the main buttons. For me, it felt kind of right in Frontiers. Its just that Cyberspace's controls were awful.
Seems unlikely. I'm sure it's only coming out at the same time in order to make bank off that brand synergy. I mean, what would a level based on the movies even be? A race through Olive Garden?
Forces also used some. The key difference is that Forces and Frontiers realized that making them actually _hard_ challenges just ruins the flow, so they take a page from Egg Dragoon instead
@@spindash64having just played through the Kingdom Hearts series and experienced reaction commands for the first time I’m all for QTE’s that aren’t difficult but sick as hell
@@jingusflorpus4274 same. I understand button mashing is considered poor form for accessibility, but it still just FEELS right in some cases. Best example I can think of is the Spindash. Sure, it COULD be made into a Hold to Charge function, like in CD or Generations, but basically everyone seems to prefer the multitap, because you feel like you're spooling up. And you don't NEED to be good at button mashing to make the Spindash work, it just makes it that little bit stronger.
@@spindash64 Disagree. Sonic's appeal has always been providing you with the platform to express your creativity and skill through unrestricted movement as you improve at the game, which is why one of cardinal sins of Sonic gameplay is taking control away from the player during automated scripts, excessive dash pads or QTEs. QTEs inherently break the flow of Sonic, bc by defintion, you are not fully in control during those moments. QTEs dont belong in Sonic games period.
Legacy controls must mean classic controls like Square for Boost and A-A for homing attack. Only thing I hope for is Classic Sonic’s spindash to still be mapped to square and not the traditional button input
Yeah there’s no doubt in my mind that the skin is his Movie design and that’s why a) we haven’t seen it yet and b) it releases Holiday 2024, when the film does.
@@tlk4554Talk about an easy and cost-effective tie-on. Take an existing game, give it a new coat of paint, attach new parts to the body and add other addition; then ship it off for a fraction of the cost it would take to build a new game from scratch plus you give customers another chance to get ahold of the game with the added bonus of new content to beef it up compared to the original release.
Really hoping Sonic gets a movie skin too then. It'd be better than Colors Ultimate having the movie Sonic aura/Boost as an unlockable and the logical next step
Sonic Generations is already my favorite Sonic game, and while Shadow Generations is doing its own thing it somehow seems just as good. I'm genuinely shocked on how good Sonic x Shadow Generations looks.
Think it's just the old game with additional stuff and updated graphics. Basically what we all wanted, new remakes of old levels and more playable characters.
I’m just glad Sega is learning from their mistake after Sonic Colours Ultimate. They aren’t updating or improving the main game, but instead adding more content and making this remake actually worth it. Plus its 50 dollars, with a 60 dollar deluxe version having some pretty awesome bonus content
This game is showcasing how much Sonic Team has learned from both Colours Ultimate (don’t make a shoddy port) and Frontiers (stylistic, thought-out design) and combining it with this new approach for the franchise where they just embrace it all. No more laughing at memes, no more hiding from games that didn’t do well, and no more sole focus on Sonic. It is EXTREMELY refreshing for a longtime fan for myself; my flip-out over Kingdom Valley returning really hammered home how surreal this all feels. I don’t know who exactly is responsible for the change in approach but they had the best possible idea, because seeing the franchise embrace itself wholeheartedly like this is incredible. Especially as a big Shadow fan, this game looks like both a love-letter to and a redo of his character. All these new abilities coupled with another dive into his past are moving mountains here. They remembered Shadow was cool, and based on the reactions I’ve seen it seems many people remembered as well. Cannot wait to play this.
@@ataladin87Forces actually has better art direction than frontiers(imo), white metropolis, sunset highway, iron fortress, casino jungle, these spots actually look pretty good, and they don’t have giant ugly rails floating in the sky to ruin it either.
This is the first time in a long time where I'm excited for a Sonic game. Not cautiously optimistic, but actually 100% on-board. Hopefully they find a way to keep the original steam release around, though. 13 years of such an amazing modding community disappearing would suck.
@@yourself1210And for console owners, there should be an option to be able to play the Sonic Generations as it was back in 2011 if they want to experience it the way it was originally.
@@anythinginazuma7641 Because like Arrow Films’ Waterworld release; you’d want the option to see the US cut despite the European cut being an overall better experience. Having the option available to see the US cut is a nice choice regardless. Another example: Criterion Collection’s Godzilla (1954) release where you have the King of the Monsters US re-edit and the original, superior Gojira cut. The Japanese original might be the better version but having the US edit is nice to have if you want to go and watch it. If the owner wants to be able to experience the “outdated” Sonic Generations UI and all through the remaster/updated edition, that should be an option than being prohibited like the original unaltered cuts of the Star Wars Original Trilogy. Both for purist’s sake and for everyone else who aren’t too crazy on the new additions. I know people didn’t care for the changes and additions to LoZ: Ocarina of Time on 3DS.
You mentioning how they might bring back Flame Core gave me chills. Also 0:32 the fact that Choctopus did the smartest thing by connecting the Dualsense to capture audio is such a brilliant idea.
I think what's happening in Shadow Generations is we have a full 3D Act 1 and a full 2.5D Act 2 for every stage. The demo specifies Act 1 for Space Colony ARK, and in that there is no 2.5D AT ALL. Maybe this is how they rectify that Shadow doesn't have a "Classic" version. And when you think about it OG Gens did the same kinda, but here they take the feedback from Frontiers and elevate it.
Can we all talk about that Supporting Me remix for the biolizard fight? Because… my word what we can hear from the footage, it’s gonna be a certified banger!!!
I kinda hope they remake that Rush stage from the 3DS Generations if there is DLC. Heck, any stage from the GBA games revisited to see how it would look in 3D would be a major selling point for me.
For the first time in a long time, a Sonic game actually looks good. Not "good except for this," or "well it will look better in the final version," or "cautiously optimistic," it just straight up it looks GOOD!
Don’t forget that back when Unleashed came out they sold multiple different packs of levels for each in game location to extend the games life. I wish they’d do the same here tbh.
Gonna just document info we have based on questions you have that you might've missed: -Old controls for og Gens is an option (no comment on bringing lives back) -Shadow zones have 2 acts: 1 that's entirely 2D and 1 that's entirely 3D (like the base game but actually 3d levels lol) -They confirmed that the game will have side challenges for levels like base gens, I'm assuming that factors into Izuka's playtime comment -On the acts thing, given that we've seen 3 separate zones and a boss that means atm we have 6 levels and at least 2 bosses confirmed (Biolizard and assumedly a final boss of some kind)
The stage count is pretty decent, I think the original generation ls just had 9. I couldn't fucking believe it when I read they're making an Open Zone for Shadow to fuck about in. Six stages, 2 acts, and a fucking Open Zone for Shadow, bundled with a modern port of Generations is a pretty good mix for me.
I spent my whole adolescence being gaslit into believing sonic 06's serious art style was too juxtaposed and unleashed/colors was objectively better. As an adult, I've come to realize that such a bold clash was probably ahead of it's time and is such a god damn beauty.
I always thought the art style looked good but let down by the rushed development including the non-human characters seemingly suffering from the same facial condition as Jim Ross and just having a sleepy-eye in cutscenes look more often than not. Project-06 shows how gorgeous the style can look under better lighting, better management and more polish being done to the canvas. Kept the original foundation but made necessary tweaks including the characters emoting a lot more than in Retail 2006. Crash Bandicoot NST’s visual style looks good and does what it needs to do but CTR Nitro-Fueled shows how beautiful the style looks with a few changes to the engine lighting and it’s using the same assets as NST mind you.
I still think 06’s art style is wack (aside from Kingdom Valley that’s a beautiful stage) but the Unleashed style still holds up. The visuals in Shadow Gens is looking to be the best though.
@@littenfire3563 I think it could work, but straying away from uncanny Valley is like walking on a tight rope. I think making the humans just a smidge more animated could work. Otherwise, getting plain weird with something like who framed Roger rabbit is also pretty neat. On a complete tangent, I think my favorite adaptation of humans has always been sonic OVA where humans are just a minority of the population in some acid trip sci-fi world.
Im not gonna lie, you're probably the best sonic youtuber. Your videos are comprehensive, entertaining, effective, and filled with meaningful content pertaining to the video. In my opinion you're underrated. Keep working hard and getting better.
Another detail about Shadow's teleporting homing attack that I find the really interesting here is that Sonic Team put in the extra effort to use it as a gameplay mechanic to move past laser barriers without deactivating them. Some gameplay videos show that during the Crazy Gadget section of the demo stage. Hope it gets used more throughout the game.
Honestly I'm just as excited for the mods as I am for the game itself. Assuming that the Sonic side is still running on the same engine, which it looks like it is, then that means that we'll have over a decade of mods to bring to this new version. The Unleashed Project, Water Palace, Shivery Mountainsides, the countless character skins and mods, Classic Sonic physics improvement mods, the list goes on. Can't wait.
My only concern is that the chaos control stopping time might turn time trials into a mindless grind for enemies, instead of a mindful optimization of the level layouts
I actually don't mind it being a combination of both, as older games gave ranks based on your score (a combination of both time, and destroying enemies) It would be cool to see a return to that instead of the regular Generations ranking systems that is pretty much *only* time
@@SneavileI've always liked the score based ones more. It requires you to engage with the level and find these smalls ways to optimize your score (through time, enemies, rings etc.) instead of bombrushing it. That's why the addition of ranks and tricks in Sa2 made the speed levels cool even if it wasn't as open as Sa1.
A good middleground with delisting would be to include original Generations with this new one, that way, those that still want to play mods can do so, downside is OG Gens would no longer be purchasable and a tad more expensive for newcomers, but I'd prefer this over removing it entirely because we'd lose DECADES of mods.
My headcannon is the levels for Shadow's campaign will be pivotal moments from his games. Bullet Station ended with him discovering the first android and starting his identity crisis. Kingdom Valley is where Mephiles was released in the current timeline. Radical Highway is Shadow's first exposure to humans (other than Eggman) in 50 years. Final Rush/Chase is the final duel between Sonic/Shadow. I think two more levels will be here, one from Shadow the Hedgehog and one from Forces. If I had to guess, The Last Way, where he learns why he was created, and Mystic Jungle, where he Infinite gets clapped and starts his character arc in the main game.
What Sega should do, for Steam and some console users, is make it so we get a discount if we already have Sonic Generations. No point in buying the exact game a second time, same platform, at over double the original price.
BTW I forgot what site mentioned it but you can change the controls for Sonic Generations between the original controls and Frontiers style controls, with Shadow Generations being exclusively Frontiers controls (aka Boost with RT, Homing Attack with jump and an extra button, etc) Edit: Also another interview confirmed that each stage has Two Acts like OG Generations, one Act being fully 3D while the other Act is fully 2D Edit 2 (I’m sorry): The PSN store and Steam pages confirm the bonus Shadow skin in the Deluxe Edition is separate from the Terios skin
Regarding Edit 1: Datamine from the trailer shows a 3D section in Rail Canyon Act 2, so the Act 2s could be mixed like Modern Sonic. Funnily enough, if that were the case, Shadow Generator would be the opposite of the base game, giving it more 3D than 2D.
The interview only really said we'd get both 2D and 3D. It wasn't clear what exactly the split would be, and the fact Act 1 of Space Colony Ark is fully 3D muddies things further
2 neat things not many people noticed so far: 1. There's a hidden path in that one large room, if you use Chaos Control inside it a secret green trail appears, and you can traverse through it kind of like with Chaos Control in 05, or Lightspeed Dash 2. Using Chaos Spear on enemies before attacking them will shorten Homing Attack animation significantly
5:47 I'm so happy to hear someone else loves the sonic 06 artstyle! Everytime I listen to a video where people talk about what they want out of sonic in current year, I always have to hear people shit on the artstyle of 06. As someone who loves the direction that game went in with its visuals, it has always been a shame to hear people dunk on it. It's so nice to hear some positive thoughts on it for once!
Project-06 shows how gorgeous the style can look with better technical presentation. Meanwhile, Forces shows how badly the Shadow/Unleashed style is starting to show its’ age with it being the main art style for nearly three decades now. Frontiers’ rendering helped to make them look dynamic again but I think it’s time for Sega and Sonic Team to refresh the art style to make it feel new again.
Apparently Classic Sonic will also get a Legacy Skin And according to some leaks we had some months ago, the game was finished already, so no worries about them releasing an unfinished game and updating later to make it "complete", but I really DO hope the additional level gets released as a separate DLC as well, even if paid Also, I'm hoping that this extra level is idk, a Forces level, it wouldn't be possible to do in the main story because the game is set prior to Forces, but it would be cool to see a Forces Stage redone, and even better, if it is a single extra stage with a single extra boss, and if Mephiles actually gets into the regular game, that extra boss could be Infinite
I know it doesn't really fit the story because Generations is supposed to be everything prior to 2011, but it's still about revisiting Sonic's history, and if the Time Eater was able to bring stuff from 2006, why wouldn't he bring stuff from the future? As much as I liked Infinite, I would prefer a Mania level (like Mirage Saloon). It's the more loved and overall better game,
It could be like TBOGT’s campaign deal where it takes place during and after GTA IV’s. Perhaps it starts off in the middle of Generations and ends after that game’s story ends or starts off somewhere after Forces before Shadow gets sent back to the events of Generations.
@@AYTM1200 what I'll say is mostly speculation from the few stuff I saw, but I think OP means that Sonic RUclipsrs are cringe because they either spark drama for the views or shove opinions in your face and gaslight you into thinking it's universally true, and then fans of said RUclipsrs eat it up and attack anybody who says otherwise or tries to be reasonable
@@GreekShinobi223 I get you, I've definitely experienced the same thing. However a lot of Sonic content creators aren't like that and even are victims of this. We always hear about how negative Premydaremy is when he's just giving his real opinion so I don't think it's fair to generalise like that.
I pre-ordered this about a week ago. And the Digital Deluxe Edition, and the extra level/skin is from Sonic Movie 3. Which IS INCLUDED in the Deluxe Edition!
Given how long the FIRST level was, I'm not even worried about the length of the game. ESPECIALLY since the original Gens only had about 18 main line acts. 9 of which were Classic Sonic stages. So, yeah, I'm not worried about the length unless it's like 2 levels.
There is a non-zero chance that the as-of-yet unnamed skin and stage DLC coming Holiday 2024 could be a movie tie-in pack. By that point we'll have seen at least one trailer, more likely two. So there's bound to be some big set-piece that everyone knows about. Sonic Team could potentially turn that into a stage, and include a movie-styled skin for Shadow. Though realistically, I have to imagine the stage fills in the blanks with his appearance in Generations proper. If the main campaign ends with Shadow showing up in the void waiting to fight Sonic, then maybe the DLC stage is Shadow and all Sonic's friends rushing to encourage him in the final boss.
technically "the ark" is a remix of final rush itself, albeit it's more subtle about being a remix by being slowed down and reverbed, so i don't think we can expect it to be in when final rush is already remixed. who knows what act 2's track could be, though...
You've unironically become my favorite Sonic RUclipsr. I've been a fan of Sonic since I was a kid, and I've been on the internet for over 10 years. Yet I had never even heard of you until about a year ago when I got my wisdom teeth pulled, and bought Sonic Frontiers to help pass the time. That's when I came across your channel. And to this very day, you've been my favorite Sonic RUclipsr, and this is coming from someone who's a massive SomeCallMeJohnny fan. The king of Sonic some might say, lol.
it should probably be mentioned that the terios skin and all the other stuff on the left side of the screen is a bonus for the digital deluxe edition only, not just for preorder
for the argument of adding dlc stages, i think it would be awesome for the stages from the 3ds version of generations to come back to represent that version and make it kind of an "ultimate" version of generations
I saw this video "Sonic x Shadow generations gameplay optimized". I gotta tell you the first gameplay of the demo level that came out I was kinda worried because of the speed and general level design, but then that video hit and resolved all my worries. It basically spoils the whole level, but it's worth a watch to gauge just how exactly it will play for a veteran Sonic player, utilizing alt paths and shortcuts that honestly you couldn't even tell were there in other gameplay.
I am extremely glad that Sega has (hopefully learned) from Colors Ultimate and have just ported the game to modern systems with enhancements here and there. I am hyped for this game's release and cannot wait to play it!
@@cjthecomposer02 And there’s no excuse for them coming out as technically botched as they are when all they had to is improve the visuals. In the latter’s case, they should have split up the three games instead of doing them all at the same time and finish each game at a time over a span of three years before putting out the collection.
@@rayvenkman2087 It's just a case of companies not giving teams the time and resources to properly remake a game. And unfortunately, in Sonic Color's case, the version that was on Wii was on an engine that wasn't too compatible with DirectX 11, so it had to be made from the ground up. It's just unfortunate that the game was quite clearly rushed
@@cjthecomposer02 You’d think after the Silent Hill HD Collection fiasco and the initial Sonic Origins misfire that they’d learn to take their time to restore the game rather than James Cameronsing it.
Those level result animations makes me LOSE MY MIND !!!!! I love how animated Shadow is in this game. They're finally using a bit more of that squash and stretch !!
1:55 I’ll be real, Generations came out at a time where no matter what, the game looks good. Generations looks nowhere near dated. It doesn’t look beautiful like Shadow Generations, sure. But I personally don’t care if it still looks good. I would even say it looks better than many Sonic games after it.
That new model from what I've seen looks more "mature" for classic sonic which I'm glad about because i never liked the whole cutesy aesthetic they gave him the last decade
Something to bring up about the homing attack is even though its slower, I think its redeemed by the fact that its a teleport. I believe you can teleport through lasers if there is an enemy which gives it a property that sonic doesnt have giving it something to balance out the slower animation
Shadow Generations better damn be more than 5 levels; if they're gonna add Heroes and 06 to Shadow's history, then they definitely have more than enough material to work with in here.
I’d be interested if they played around with the skill sets thing in Generations a bit more and got creative with it. How about a double jump? What about making the game control more like Frontiers or the adventure games? Giving Classic Sonic an air boost? Letting Sonic use Chaos Control? There’s so much potential.
The good news is that people who played the demo said that it was better than just a port. I think it was Fidel that said that it was basically Generations with all of the mods for it that make it run really well, with 4k textures and resolutions.
"4k textures." That's some BS. This is clearly a straight port with some enhancements here and there. This is like when people tried to claim the switch port of frontiers ran at 60fps when they actually just meant "runs well enough for the hardware."
@@imadrian98 I’m not saying you can’t have an opinion or a perspective, but I’d rather go off of people who actually playing the game than any of us since none of us actually played the game.
in terms of the length, since it's mentioned it'll be shorter than generations, i am expecting maybe around 6 levels, i feel like they are gonna focus more on quality rather than quantity, and i am totally fine with that, i think it's time that as gamers we start getting used to the idea of more bite sized side adventures in between the major releases, those side adventures maybe even being used as ways to test new ideas before deciding if they want to implement them in the major releases.
Classic games got delisted when Origins git available for preorder, Generations stays up for now, so I'm gonna assume we're at least 70% safe. They seem to be feeling extremely well about the Shadow Gens part tbh, so maybe they will just keep it.
Babe wake up new bickuribox video just dropped and honestly Sonic 06 back on 360 i used a save editor to play it and just gave myself 99 lives due to how bad the loading issue is. was gonna do a review. got sidetracked and never did that BUT i did realize that game would have been better if they just scrapped the live system all together. And honestly im glad they STARTED to do that after a certain point. i doubt itll happen but if they ever did rerelease 06 id say they should just get rid of the lives and replace it with coins or something for a bonus score or something to unlock items in a in game shop for never before scene concept art etc TLDR point is, Sonic 06 on console with a save editor to give you nigh infinite lives does make it a bit more bearable for the laoding portions
Main thing that’s blowing me away are the visuals. It looks good. Shadow is also super expressive, maybe the most expressive animation of 3d sonic in a while, maybe ever. Seriously looks like fun.
I was initially miffed when I saw the gameplay for the first Shadow level, it looked... empty (decorative wise). The design wasn't really Unleashed/Generations level of quality (more like Frontiers Cyberspace, which is good) but having Generations in the same package goes to show how different the visions for these games are. The game will most likely be enjoyable, but nothing can really replicate the older boost games.
Have you seen Fadel's speedrun of the stage? It's a really good showcase of how many shortcuts there are, and even still there are many more that he missed. Chaos Control can reveal secret dash paths similar to the lightspeed dash, and Chaos Snap can teleport through lasers. Given this is the introductory level for Shadow, I think there's some real potential for the later levels in this game.
I think it’s also that Unleashed and Gens were on hedgehog engine 1 where the boost was designed to be so exhilarating. Hedgehog engine 2’s boost looks a bit slower but this game has a pretty fast boost still.
@@EthanMallonee I agree, the levels are (or at least look) very engaging, there's no arguing with that. It's just... looking back at those older games, it's easy to tell the differences in enviormental design and enemy/hazards placement, compared to what we've got recently.
I did notice that Shadow seems to have his Chaos Snap from 06 as his equivalent to Sonic's traditional homing attack, I am definitely 100% on board and this is an instant pre-order for me as well
the best part of this is the base version being 50, and the deluxe version being 60. NORMALLY deluxe editions cost like 70 or 80, a good game, with a great new experience, and bonus content, all for a fair price, sega is back
@@KC.086 I get it, you miss the days where video games were 20 dollars, but games take more effort and money to make this isn't just a remaster this is ALSO an entirely new game with high quality animations cut scenes and an open zone and a brand new story as well as old environments that haven't been seen in over 15 years being remade from scratch. it's MORE than fair
20:00 If the levels were designed in a such a way that the choice between skipping enemies to go faster at the risk of not having chaos control or going slower to have chaos control later and maybe save more time as a result was an actual consideration, that's be so sick.
@@lifewithegrandpa6559 I initially thought about that, ngl. Frontiers is great, but I still don't trust SEGA and Sonic Team 100%. Frontiers could be an exception. If this new game comes out to be a good game after the release, then I'll eat my own words lol.
@@lks19 the reason people are hyped is because of what they've seen in the gameplay..and it's actually looks good and polished...with good controls people ain't excited for no reason there's a reason and it has some actually solid level designs they are not excited blindly there are reasons to be excited and look forward to this game.
That superstars video can’t escape forever
Don't give it ideas
It was a good game 🙄
bros edging us
@user-hq7js2wf7h multiplayer and bosses
@user-hq7js2wf7h ok, i banish you to playing sonic 06, ITS ORIGINAL
Fun fact about the teleport homing attack. It works just like 06, meaning you can zip through lasers and stuff if there's an enemy on the other side
Makes sensei cus u arent there ar all
id imagine if in a stage there was a two paths that are split by lasers or glass and if you were fast enough you could go to the other path it would be pretty cool
It's so comforting to know that Sonic Team is now using the gameplay of Sonic 06 as a basis for this new release. I mean, if it ain't broke why fix it right? When I think of solid foundations, I think of Sonic 06.
@@HOTD108_I know, right? 06’s immaculate gameplay is seared into my mind with just how quality it is
@@whyamihere5835 funny guy
The legacy controls option was actually confirmed in a interview iirc
Yay :)
Thank goodness, boosting with the trigger is my biggest gripe with modern Sonic games post Generations.
@@DwayneRidgwayOfficial I honestly found it way more convenient. Jumping button was solely for jumping, Homing attack was mapped separately specifically for that, and boost was on a trigger thats regularly used in certain games for boosting rather than on the main buttons. For me, it felt kind of right in Frontiers.
Its just that Cyberspace's controls were awful.
@@DwayneRidgwayOfficialfrontiers is designed around it so it felt natural to me
Thank god, boosting with trigger is just wrong.
The exaggerated swagger of a black hedgehog is in full effect
Shadow is about to go toe-to-toe with sparking zero this year, Ima have my popcorn ready
@@kingjiy2778 Unfortunatelt Shadow's getting blown out of the water by sparking, but literally every other game this year is so it's aight
@@kingjiy2778I'm sorry but shadow isn't going toe-to-toe with sparking zero. Sparking zero is just on another level
This is surprisingly a good take. Sparking zero got 3 million copies sold on day 1. While SXS generations sold 1 million copies. So not bad🎉
I WAS supposed to study, but I guess I won't be doing that for another 23 mins
Me too 😅
Bro go study
Same
Go study
Wait schools over for me
we better get that waku waku sonic patrol car port next
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And all the Sonic Cafe mobile games!!!!
Segasonic popcorn shop should get it first
Sonic Schoolhouse port when?
What people are forgetting about the additional level is that it comes Holiday 2024, there's no way this isn't Movie Shadow or at least Movie related
Holy crap that makes so much sense
Seems unlikely. I'm sure it's only coming out at the same time in order to make bank off that brand synergy. I mean, what would a level based on the movies even be? A race through Olive Garden?
@@HOTD108_ Considering we still don't have any info on it, who knows
@@HOTD108_Maybe Guns facility in movie 2
@@HOTD108_ Lmaaoooo
18:14 I mean... it's not like Frontiers was the first Sonic game who used a major amount of QTEs, Unleashed used A LOT of them
Forces also used some. The key difference is that Forces and Frontiers realized that making them actually _hard_ challenges just ruins the flow, so they take a page from Egg Dragoon instead
@@spindash64having just played through the Kingdom Hearts series and experienced reaction commands for the first time I’m all for QTE’s that aren’t difficult but sick as hell
@@jingusflorpus4274 same. I understand button mashing is considered poor form for accessibility, but it still just FEELS right in some cases.
Best example I can think of is the Spindash. Sure, it COULD be made into a Hold to Charge function, like in CD or Generations, but basically everyone seems to prefer the multitap, because you feel like you're spooling up. And you don't NEED to be good at button mashing to make the Spindash work, it just makes it that little bit stronger.
@@spindash64 Disagree. Sonic's appeal has always been providing you with the platform to express your creativity and skill through unrestricted movement as you improve at the game, which is why one of cardinal sins of Sonic gameplay is taking control away from the player during automated scripts, excessive dash pads or QTEs. QTEs inherently break the flow of Sonic, bc by defintion, you are not fully in control during those moments. QTEs dont belong in Sonic games period.
They’ve confirmed you do have the option to switch between modern controls and "legacy" controls.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is this for both sonic and shadow generations or just sonic generarions
Legacy controls must mean classic controls like Square for Boost and A-A for homing attack. Only thing I hope for is Classic Sonic’s spindash to still be mapped to square and not the traditional button input
@@louiswindsor7334Shadow is locked to the modern controls
@@MizunoKetsuban Well of course, that would require Sonic Team to actually spend more than a weekend on development.
The additional level and skin is probably Sonic Movie 3 stuff which would honestly be very smart for SEGA to do right after the movie drops.
Yeah there’s no doubt in my mind that the skin is his Movie design and that’s why a) we haven’t seen it yet and b) it releases Holiday 2024, when the film does.
@@tlk4554Talk about an easy and cost-effective tie-on. Take an existing game, give it a new coat of paint, attach new parts to the body and add other addition; then ship it off for a fraction of the cost it would take to build a new game from scratch plus you give customers another chance to get ahold of the game with the added bonus of new content to beef it up compared to the original release.
@@tlk4554 And that the japanese preorder trailer for the game shows the Sonic Movie 3 logo.
Really hoping Sonic gets a movie skin too then. It'd be better than Colors Ultimate having the movie Sonic aura/Boost as an unlockable and the logical next step
Confirmed to be the case, good call!
Sonic Generations is already my favorite Sonic game, and while Shadow Generations is doing its own thing it somehow seems just as good. I'm genuinely shocked on how good Sonic x Shadow Generations looks.
Think it's just the old game with additional stuff and updated graphics. Basically what we all wanted, new remakes of old levels and more playable characters.
I’m just glad Sega is learning from their mistake after Sonic Colours Ultimate. They aren’t updating or improving the main game, but instead adding more content and making this remake actually worth it. Plus its 50 dollars, with a 60 dollar deluxe version having some pretty awesome bonus content
I'm mainly glad that i can finally generations on a new console k while also playing a new addition with it.
@@Honestlynothingelsebro what were u tryna say here your grammar is way off…no offence btw
@@Sonicionx no he missed the word play before generations and added that k by mistake
“The Izuka Bazooka himself” I love this.
I love him
This game is showcasing how much Sonic Team has learned from both Colours Ultimate (don’t make a shoddy port) and Frontiers (stylistic, thought-out design) and combining it with this new approach for the franchise where they just embrace it all. No more laughing at memes, no more hiding from games that didn’t do well, and no more sole focus on Sonic. It is EXTREMELY refreshing for a longtime fan for myself; my flip-out over Kingdom Valley returning really hammered home how surreal this all feels. I don’t know who exactly is responsible for the change in approach but they had the best possible idea, because seeing the franchise embrace itself wholeheartedly like this is incredible. Especially as a big Shadow fan, this game looks like both a love-letter to and a redo of his character. All these new abilities coupled with another dive into his past are moving mountains here. They remembered Shadow was cool, and based on the reactions I’ve seen it seems many people remembered as well. Cannot wait to play this.
Frontiers art style is literally just Forces.
Which is better@@ataladin87
@@adedakevwe1957 I actually don't even remember why I wrote this comment.
@@adedakevwe1957 wdym??
@@ataladin87Forces actually has better art direction than frontiers(imo), white metropolis, sunset highway, iron fortress, casino jungle, these spots actually look pretty good, and they don’t have giant ugly rails floating in the sky to ruin it either.
For people that don't have a clue you can play the old Sonic Generations at 4k 60 fps on the Xbox Series X.
Yea, but there's this weird aliasing issue that honestly makes it look kinda crusty and odd
@@flaminginferno6641 The Krusty Hedgehog.
@@StealthTheFoxz Bro💀💀
@@flaminginferno6641 that, and some bugs like the instant-kill shortcut in Chemical Plant
@@Shayde.OfficialAND the one in speed highway if you go too fast and catch the helicopter it takes you into a kill zone or out of bounds.
This is the first time in a long time where I'm excited for a Sonic game. Not cautiously optimistic, but actually 100% on-board. Hopefully they find a way to keep the original steam release around, though. 13 years of such an amazing modding community disappearing would suck.
They should include the original pc version as free dlc when you buy this version
@@yourself1210And for console owners, there should be an option to be able to play the Sonic Generations as it was back in 2011 if they want to experience it the way it was originally.
@rayvenkman2087 why would you wanna play an inferior version?
@@rayvenkman2087Minecraft did that for the legacy edition right?
@@anythinginazuma7641 Because like Arrow Films’ Waterworld release; you’d want the option to see the US cut despite the European cut being an overall better experience. Having the option available to see the US cut is a nice choice regardless.
Another example: Criterion Collection’s Godzilla (1954) release where you have the King of the Monsters US re-edit and the original, superior Gojira cut. The Japanese original might be the better version but having the US edit is nice to have if you want to go and watch it.
If the owner wants to be able to experience the “outdated” Sonic Generations UI and all through the remaster/updated edition, that should be an option than being prohibited like the original unaltered cuts of the Star Wars Original Trilogy. Both for purist’s sake and for everyone else who aren’t too crazy on the new additions. I know people didn’t care for the changes and additions to LoZ: Ocarina of Time on 3DS.
You mentioning how they might bring back Flame Core gave me chills.
Also 0:32 the fact that Choctopus did the smartest thing by connecting the Dualsense to capture audio is such a brilliant idea.
Going through a breakup rn and when i saw this video suddenly pop up in my feed my mood just lit up, I miss this dude and his uploads fr
I'm sorry for your loss, hang in there friend
Sorry for that breakup man
I'm sorry for your breakup. I'm sure you can overcome it.
Being a Sonic fan brings just as much and disappointment as any relationship.
@@DiskusGames real shi my guy
I think what's happening in Shadow Generations is we have a full 3D Act 1 and a full 2.5D Act 2 for every stage. The demo specifies Act 1 for Space Colony ARK, and in that there is no 2.5D AT ALL. Maybe this is how they rectify that Shadow doesn't have a "Classic" version. And when you think about it OG Gens did the same kinda, but here they take the feedback from Frontiers and elevate it.
SHADOW HAS THE SNAP FROM 06 THATS SO COOL
“Izuka bazooka” is now what I will refer to when talking about Lizuka.
Iizuka, not Lizuka. Its capital i
@@purplebruh947 Lizuka.
@@TheSultan1470 No
@@purplebruh947 Strange. I can't find a city called Lizuka :D
@@cliffturbo2146 good one
Can we all talk about that Supporting Me remix for the biolizard fight? Because… my word what we can hear from the footage, it’s gonna be a certified banger!!!
I kinda hope they remake that Rush stage from the 3DS Generations if there is DLC. Heck, any stage from the GBA games revisited to see how it would look in 3D would be a major selling point for me.
Biolizard was literally re made for Shadow's campaing... so there's hoping
"Honey wake up, bickuribox12 just uploaded!" Btw I was literally just watching one of your videos, so it seemed like I summoned you out of nowhere.
bickuriboxuriboo, I call upon you!
YOU, WHO SUMMONED THE CHOSEN ONE
its "babe wake up, new bickuribox12 video just dropped"
For the first time in a long time, a Sonic game actually looks good. Not "good except for this," or "well it will look better in the final version," or "cautiously optimistic," it just straight up it looks GOOD!
YEAH CAN'T WAIT
Don’t worry, I’m sure the exceptions will reveal themselves on release
Don’t forget that back when Unleashed came out they sold multiple different packs of levels for each in game location to extend the games life. I wish they’d do the same here tbh.
Gonna just document info we have based on questions you have that you might've missed:
-Old controls for og Gens is an option (no comment on bringing lives back)
-Shadow zones have 2 acts: 1 that's entirely 2D and 1 that's entirely 3D (like the base game but actually 3d levels lol)
-They confirmed that the game will have side challenges for levels like base gens, I'm assuming that factors into Izuka's playtime comment
-On the acts thing, given that we've seen 3 separate zones and a boss that means atm we have 6 levels and at least 2 bosses confirmed (Biolizard and assumedly a final boss of some kind)
Honestly I'm okay with 6 different stages and 2 acts for all of them followed by a boss, let alone we are getting open zone with the game.
Edit: Huh
The stage count is pretty decent, I think the original generation ls just had 9.
I couldn't fucking believe it when I read they're making an Open Zone for Shadow to fuck about in.
Six stages, 2 acts, and a fucking Open Zone for Shadow, bundled with a modern port of Generations is a pretty good mix for me.
@@CardCaptorDeadpool I feel the same way
I spent my whole adolescence being gaslit into believing sonic 06's serious art style was too juxtaposed and unleashed/colors was objectively better. As an adult, I've come to realize that such a bold clash was probably ahead of it's time and is such a god damn beauty.
I always thought the art style looked good but let down by the rushed development including the non-human characters seemingly suffering from the same facial condition as Jim Ross and just having a sleepy-eye in cutscenes look more often than not.
Project-06 shows how gorgeous the style can look under better lighting, better management and more polish being done to the canvas. Kept the original foundation but made necessary tweaks including the characters emoting a lot more than in Retail 2006.
Crash Bandicoot NST’s visual style looks good and does what it needs to do but CTR Nitro-Fueled shows how beautiful the style looks with a few changes to the engine lighting and it’s using the same assets as NST mind you.
Except for the humans. But yeah I don't mind enviroments in Sonic looking somewhat realistic
I always thought it looked good,compared to shadow the hedgehog and Heroes that game 100% looked next generation
I still think 06’s art style is wack (aside from Kingdom Valley that’s a beautiful stage) but the Unleashed style still holds up.
The visuals in Shadow Gens is looking to be the best though.
@@littenfire3563 I think it could work, but straying away from uncanny Valley is like walking on a tight rope. I think making the humans just a smidge more animated could work. Otherwise, getting plain weird with something like who framed Roger rabbit is also pretty neat.
On a complete tangent, I think my favorite adaptation of humans has always been sonic OVA where humans are just a minority of the population in some acid trip sci-fi world.
Im not gonna lie, you're probably the best sonic youtuber. Your videos are comprehensive, entertaining, effective, and filled with meaningful content pertaining to the video. In my opinion you're underrated. Keep working hard and getting better.
That means a lot, thank you
Another detail about Shadow's teleporting homing attack that I find the really interesting here is that Sonic Team put in the extra effort to use it as a gameplay mechanic to move past laser barriers without deactivating them. Some gameplay videos show that during the Crazy Gadget section of the demo stage. Hope it gets used more throughout the game.
OG Generations has a HUGE modding scene- it would be a major bummer if Sega delists the original, and then all of those mods would become obsolete
Like what they did to the steam ports of sonic 1,2,cd,3&k for people to buy origins.
uh oh
@@exobot6098we’re good its ok
@@KCGamingBuddies I swear I did not write that comment.
Honestly I'm just as excited for the mods as I am for the game itself. Assuming that the Sonic side is still running on the same engine, which it looks like it is, then that means that we'll have over a decade of mods to bring to this new version. The Unleashed Project, Water Palace, Shivery Mountainsides, the countless character skins and mods, Classic Sonic physics improvement mods, the list goes on. Can't wait.
afaik this remaster is based on HE2, the version of the engine used in Forces & Frontiers.
My only concern is that the chaos control stopping time might turn time trials into a mindless grind for enemies, instead of a mindful optimization of the level layouts
I actually don't mind it being a combination of both, as older games gave ranks based on your score (a combination of both time, and destroying enemies) It would be cool to see a return to that instead of the regular Generations ranking systems that is pretty much *only* time
@@SneavileI've always liked the score based ones more. It requires you to engage with the level and find these smalls ways to optimize your score (through time, enemies, rings etc.) instead of bombrushing it. That's why the addition of ranks and tricks in Sa2 made the speed levels cool even if it wasn't as open as Sa1.
@@justcallmekai1554I think speed based level design is much more interesting when done right. But to each their own I guess.
A good middleground with delisting would be to include original Generations with this new one, that way, those that still want to play mods can do so, downside is OG Gens would no longer be purchasable and a tad more expensive for newcomers, but I'd prefer this over removing it entirely because we'd lose DECADES of mods.
My headcannon is the levels for Shadow's campaign will be pivotal moments from his games. Bullet Station ended with him discovering the first android and starting his identity crisis. Kingdom Valley is where Mephiles was released in the current timeline. Radical Highway is Shadow's first exposure to humans (other than Eggman) in 50 years. Final Rush/Chase is the final duel between Sonic/Shadow. I think two more levels will be here, one from Shadow the Hedgehog and one from Forces. If I had to guess, The Last Way, where he learns why he was created, and Mystic Jungle, where he Infinite gets clapped and starts his character arc in the main game.
The sonic forces level is impossible because shadow generations takes place during sonic generations itself
What Sega should do, for Steam and some console users, is make it so we get a discount if we already have Sonic Generations. No point in buying the exact game a second time, same platform, at over double the original price.
BTW I forgot what site mentioned it but you can change the controls for Sonic Generations between the original controls and Frontiers style controls, with Shadow Generations being exclusively Frontiers controls (aka Boost with RT, Homing Attack with jump and an extra button, etc)
Edit: Also another interview confirmed that each stage has Two Acts like OG Generations, one Act being fully 3D while the other Act is fully 2D
Edit 2 (I’m sorry): The PSN store and Steam pages confirm the bonus Shadow skin in the Deluxe Edition is separate from the Terios skin
So you mean like Rush?
Regarding Edit 1:
Datamine from the trailer shows a 3D section in Rail Canyon Act 2, so the Act 2s could be mixed like Modern Sonic.
Funnily enough, if that were the case, Shadow Generator would be the opposite of the base game, giving it more 3D than 2D.
The interview only really said we'd get both 2D and 3D. It wasn't clear what exactly the split would be, and the fact Act 1 of Space Colony Ark is fully 3D muddies things further
The gerald journal alone would've sold me
Aparantly it's the same team that made original gens. So super excited for that.
6:23 And they did. Can't wait to finally fight Mephiles for the first time!
2 neat things not many people noticed so far:
1. There's a hidden path in that one large room, if you use Chaos Control inside it a secret green trail appears, and you can traverse through it kind of like with Chaos Control in 05, or Lightspeed Dash
2. Using Chaos Spear on enemies before attacking them will shorten Homing Attack animation significantly
5:47
I'm so happy to hear someone else loves the sonic 06 artstyle! Everytime I listen to a video where people talk about what they want out of sonic in current year, I always have to hear people shit on the artstyle of 06. As someone who loves the direction that game went in with its visuals, it has always been a shame to hear people dunk on it. It's so nice to hear some positive thoughts on it for once!
Project-06 shows how gorgeous the style can look with better technical presentation.
Meanwhile, Forces shows how badly the Shadow/Unleashed style is starting to show its’ age with it being the main art style for nearly three decades now. Frontiers’ rendering helped to make them look dynamic again but I think it’s time for Sega and Sonic Team to refresh the art style to make it feel new again.
@rayvenkman2087 no, Frontiers didn't make it *_"Better"_*
Apparently Classic Sonic will also get a Legacy Skin
And according to some leaks we had some months ago, the game was finished already, so no worries about them releasing an unfinished game and updating later to make it "complete", but I really DO hope the additional level gets released as a separate DLC as well, even if paid
Also, I'm hoping that this extra level is idk, a Forces level, it wouldn't be possible to do in the main story because the game is set prior to Forces, but it would be cool to see a Forces Stage redone, and even better, if it is a single extra stage with a single extra boss, and if Mephiles actually gets into the regular game, that extra boss could be Infinite
I know it doesn't really fit the story because Generations is supposed to be everything prior to 2011, but it's still about revisiting Sonic's history, and if the Time Eater was able to bring stuff from 2006, why wouldn't he bring stuff from the future?
As much as I liked Infinite, I would prefer a Mania level (like Mirage Saloon). It's the more loved and overall better game,
American Sonic with his Mohawk spikes??
@@Protosilver97It’ll either be a Mania or Superstars level
It could be like TBOGT’s campaign deal where it takes place during and after GTA IV’s. Perhaps it starts off in the middle of Generations and ends after that game’s story ends or starts off somewhere after Forces before Shadow gets sent back to the events of Generations.
I have a gut feeling that the extra skin and DLC level might be Movie 3 related since the 3rd movie is coming out Holiday season it would make sense
This man is honestly one of the only sonic RUclipsr I don’t find cringe
What's cringe about them ?.
@@AYTM1200They get a bit too excited over a kids icon
@@AYTM1200 what I'll say is mostly speculation from the few stuff I saw, but I think OP means that Sonic RUclipsrs are cringe because they either spark drama for the views or shove opinions in your face and gaslight you into thinking it's universally true, and then fans of said RUclipsrs eat it up and attack anybody who says otherwise or tries to be reasonable
@@GreekShinobi223 I get you, I've definitely experienced the same thing. However a lot of Sonic content creators aren't like that and even are victims of this.
We always hear about how negative Premydaremy is when he's just giving his real opinion so I don't think it's fair to generalise like that.
@@AYTM1200 It's Sonic. Auto +20 cringe
U can’t escape from the superstars video
"THE IIZUKA BAZUKA" LMAOOOOOO
Not sure about this but I think in 14:23 u can homing attack artificial chaos to go through these lasers because of shadow's teleportation.
I pre-ordered this about a week ago. And the Digital Deluxe Edition, and the extra level/skin is from Sonic Movie 3. Which IS INCLUDED in the Deluxe Edition!
Given how long the FIRST level was, I'm not even worried about the length of the game. ESPECIALLY since the original Gens only had about 18 main line acts. 9 of which were Classic Sonic stages. So, yeah, I'm not worried about the length unless it's like 2 levels.
Imagine if this is the only long level in the game
@@purplebruh947 The others are probably 2 mins
The only crime old Generations committed was being too short.
Now they fix it.
There is a non-zero chance that the as-of-yet unnamed skin and stage DLC coming Holiday 2024 could be a movie tie-in pack. By that point we'll have seen at least one trailer, more likely two. So there's bound to be some big set-piece that everyone knows about. Sonic Team could potentially turn that into a stage, and include a movie-styled skin for Shadow.
Though realistically, I have to imagine the stage fills in the blanks with his appearance in Generations proper. If the main campaign ends with Shadow showing up in the void waiting to fight Sonic, then maybe the DLC stage is Shadow and all Sonic's friends rushing to encourage him in the final boss.
technically "the ark" is a remix of final rush itself, albeit it's more subtle about being a remix by being slowed down and reverbed, so i don't think we can expect it to be in when final rush is already remixed. who knows what act 2's track could be, though...
the "iizuka bazooka" is an insane nickname
You've unironically become my favorite Sonic RUclipsr. I've been a fan of Sonic since I was a kid, and I've been on the internet for over 10 years. Yet I had never even heard of you until about a year ago when I got my wisdom teeth pulled, and bought Sonic Frontiers to help pass the time. That's when I came across your channel.
And to this very day, you've been my favorite Sonic RUclipsr, and this is coming from someone who's a massive SomeCallMeJohnny fan. The king of Sonic some might say, lol.
@@maverickay5807 Wow, thank you so much!
it should probably be mentioned that the terios skin and all the other stuff on the left side of the screen is a bonus for the digital deluxe edition only, not just for preorder
I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!
The frontiers delay on the homing attack doesn't seem to be there as seen by Fadel homing onto the meteors, Choctopus was just slow.
for the argument of adding dlc stages, i think it would be awesome for the stages from the 3ds version of generations to come back to represent that version and make it kind of an "ultimate" version of generations
And this video is an instant watch :)
I saw this video "Sonic x Shadow generations gameplay optimized". I gotta tell you the first gameplay of the demo level that came out I was kinda worried because of the speed and general level design, but then that video hit and resolved all my worries. It basically spoils the whole level, but it's worth a watch to gauge just how exactly it will play for a veteran Sonic player, utilizing alt paths and shortcuts that honestly you couldn't even tell were there in other gameplay.
I am extremely glad that Sega has (hopefully learned) from Colors Ultimate and have just ported the game to modern systems with enhancements here and there. I am hyped for this game's release and cannot wait to play it!
Colors Ultimate is to Sonic what GTA Trilogy Defective Edition is for GTA. A disaster that should never have been shipped in the state its’ in.
@@rayvenkman2087 I couldn't agree more
@@cjthecomposer02 And there’s no excuse for them coming out as technically botched as they are when all they had to is improve the visuals. In the latter’s case, they should have split up the three games instead of doing them all at the same time and finish each game at a time over a span of three years before putting out the collection.
@@rayvenkman2087 It's just a case of companies not giving teams the time and resources to properly remake a game. And unfortunately, in Sonic Color's case, the version that was on Wii was on an engine that wasn't too compatible with DirectX 11, so it had to be made from the ground up. It's just unfortunate that the game was quite clearly rushed
@@cjthecomposer02 You’d think after the Silent Hill HD Collection fiasco and the initial Sonic Origins misfire that they’d learn to take their time to restore the game rather than James Cameronsing it.
Those level result animations makes me LOSE MY MIND !!!!! I love how animated Shadow is in this game. They're finally using a bit more of that squash and stretch !!
1:55
I’ll be real, Generations came out at a time where no matter what, the game looks good.
Generations looks nowhere near dated. It doesn’t look beautiful like Shadow Generations, sure. But I personally don’t care if it still looks good. I would even say it looks better than many Sonic games after it.
I think sonic games from now on should have a light and dark mode for the hud and have dark mode be black and red and light is just the default one
Modern sonic for some reason has a drop dash/ roll, and classic sonic has the drop dash too and a different 3D model
That new model from what I've seen looks more "mature" for classic sonic which I'm glad about because i never liked the whole cutesy aesthetic they gave him the last decade
Something to bring up about the homing attack is even though its slower, I think its redeemed by the fact that its a teleport. I believe you can teleport through lasers if there is an enemy which gives it a property that sonic doesnt have giving it something to balance out the slower animation
A flame core remix would be absolutely euphoric
Why is this guys voice so chadly
Shadow Generations better damn be more than 5 levels; if they're gonna add Heroes and 06 to Shadow's history, then they definitely have more than enough material to work with in here.
I’d be interested if they played around with the skill sets thing in Generations a bit more and got creative with it. How about a double jump? What about making the game control more like Frontiers or the adventure games? Giving Classic Sonic an air boost? Letting Sonic use Chaos Control? There’s so much potential.
The good news is that people who played the demo said that it was better than just a port. I think it was Fidel that said that it was basically Generations with all of the mods for it that make it run really well, with 4k textures and resolutions.
"4k textures."
That's some BS. This is clearly a straight port with some enhancements here and there. This is like when people tried to claim the switch port of frontiers ran at 60fps when they actually just meant "runs well enough for the hardware."
@@imadrian98then explain literally everyone who actually played the game themselves saying it noticeably looks better.
@@imadrian98 I’m not saying you can’t have an opinion or a perspective, but I’d rather go off of people who actually playing the game than any of us since none of us actually played the game.
i am SO sorry for ever doubting you.
PUMP THIS GAME WITH DLC STAGES TILL THE SUN EXPLODES SEGA
With sewage
in terms of the length, since it's mentioned it'll be shorter than generations, i am expecting maybe around 6 levels, i feel like they are gonna focus more on quality rather than quantity, and i am totally fine with that, i think it's time that as gamers we start getting used to the idea of more bite sized side adventures in between the major releases, those side adventures maybe even being used as ways to test new ideas before deciding if they want to implement them in the major releases.
Classic games got delisted when Origins git available for preorder, Generations stays up for now, so I'm gonna assume we're at least 70% safe. They seem to be feeling extremely well about the Shadow Gens part tbh, so maybe they will just keep it.
My guess is because there are 2 acts per zone, the first level will be entirely 3D and the second level will be mostly 2D
I was waiting for this moment
21:43 That victory jingle keeps throwing me off. I swear, that last note jumps an octave higher than I expect to hear.
Babe wake up new bickuribox video just dropped
and honestly Sonic 06 back on 360 i used a save editor to play it and just gave myself 99 lives due to how bad the loading issue is. was gonna do a review. got sidetracked and never did that BUT i did realize that game would have been better if they just scrapped the live system all together. And honestly im glad they STARTED to do that after a certain point. i doubt itll happen but if they ever did rerelease 06 id say they should just get rid of the lives and replace it with coins or something for a bonus score or something to unlock items in a in game shop for never before scene concept art etc
TLDR point is, Sonic 06 on console with a save editor to give you nigh infinite lives does make it a bit more bearable for the laoding portions
Main thing that’s blowing me away are the visuals. It looks good. Shadow is also super expressive, maybe the most expressive animation of 3d sonic in a while, maybe ever. Seriously looks like fun.
This might actually be the first GOOD remaster of a 3D Sonic game
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was the only one that wasn’t a glitch filled nightmare
And it was still a big glow down in visuals and audio
I would have already bougt a Gens remaster since I never played the original, but playable Shadow makes it a sweeter deal.
I'm hoping we get sky troops or westoplis. sky troops has a flying section would love to see shadow using his new wings
Black Doom: *"Now hit the second tower."*
Mr president, a second hedgehog has hit the egg fleets.
I think the extra level and skin are probably a Movie shadow skin and level because it comes out in holiday 2024 just like movie 3
BICK ALARM! BICK ALARM!
TOMORROW IM GOING TO PRE-ORDER THE DIGITAL DELUXE EDITION
There's never a reason to preorder, no matter how good the game might/will be.
Agreed.
If Mephiles comes back, even if it's just for a boss fight, I'll legit cry.😭
I was initially miffed when I saw the gameplay for the first Shadow level, it looked... empty (decorative wise). The design wasn't really Unleashed/Generations level of quality (more like Frontiers Cyberspace, which is good) but having Generations in the same package goes to show how different the visions for these games are.
The game will most likely be enjoyable, but nothing can really replicate the older boost games.
Have you seen Fadel's speedrun of the stage?
It's a really good showcase of how many shortcuts there are, and even still there are many more that he missed.
Chaos Control can reveal secret dash paths similar to the lightspeed dash, and Chaos Snap can teleport through lasers. Given this is the introductory level for Shadow, I think there's some real potential for the later levels in this game.
It’s not supposed to be a pure boost game, it’s that mixed with adventure elements
I think it’s also that Unleashed and Gens were on hedgehog engine 1 where the boost was designed to be so exhilarating. Hedgehog engine 2’s boost looks a bit slower but this game has a pretty fast boost still.
@@EthanMallonee I agree, the levels are (or at least look) very engaging, there's no arguing with that. It's just... looking back at those older games, it's easy to tell the differences in enviormental design and enemy/hazards placement, compared to what we've got recently.
@@N0T_S0ME0NE Probably just the first part of the first level. The rest- hallways
4:04 they have confirmed that yes, the original game will delisted from individual purchase but can be bought in bundles.
"Yo babe, fuck going to the theaters today. Bickuribox12 uploaded a video. We can go tomorrow"
LOL
I did notice that Shadow seems to have his Chaos Snap from 06 as his equivalent to Sonic's traditional homing attack, I am definitely 100% on board and this is an instant pre-order for me as well
what if.. there is a last story after you beat sonic generations and shadow generations
Your enthusiasm is highly contagious! Love it.
the best part of this is the base version being 50, and the deluxe version being 60.
NORMALLY deluxe editions cost like 70 or 80, a good game, with a great new experience, and bonus content, all for a fair price, sega is back
do you really think that's a fair price for a game from 2011? the additional stuff isn't worth that much
@@KC.086 I get it, you miss the days where video games were 20 dollars, but games take more effort and money to make this isn't just a remaster this is ALSO an entirely new game with high quality animations cut scenes and an open zone and a brand new story as well as old environments that haven't been seen in over 15 years being remade from scratch.
it's MORE than fair
nuuuu video games should be 2 ¢
20:00 If the levels were designed in a such a way that the choice between skipping enemies to go faster at the risk of not having chaos control or going slower to have chaos control later and maybe save more time as a result was an actual consideration, that's be so sick.
What if the stage is based on the movie? Or movie shadow skin considering it's releasing in the holidays
Glad to know you watch Choc! Just finished his vid and saw this!
Never hype a Sonic game.
Everybody hyping up the yearly Sega slop unfortunately
You probably the same people who say it looks like forces.
@@lifewithegrandpa6559 I initially thought about that, ngl. Frontiers is great, but I still don't trust SEGA and Sonic Team 100%. Frontiers could be an exception. If this new game comes out to be a good game after the release, then I'll eat my own words lol.
@@lks19 the reason people are hyped is because of what they've seen in the gameplay..and it's actually looks good and polished...with good controls people ain't excited for no reason there's a reason and it has some actually solid level designs they are not excited blindly there are reasons to be excited and look forward to this game.
Kingdom Valley is my favorite track from 06, I can't wait to hear the remix!