Fun Fact: During the second phase of The End, if you're below 100 Rings and get hit by the orbs that cause the ring drain cutscene, you immediately lose and the cutscene changes slightly to reflect that. I learned that the hard way when I ended up wasting time and rings not hitting that stupid cable.
this happened to me and i was so confused i started treating it like a mash QTE on subsequent fights i thought they just forgot to add the ui elements 😭
and i was down to 12 or 11 rings during the second phase and i managed to finish the fight before losing my super form, most of my time doing this fight was trying to remove that damn healing hook attached to Supreme
Usually with content creators I tend to prefer, I don’t actually care about the wait for a new video. It usually comes, I’m happy, I watch it, and I move on with my life. I’ve never bothered with that hype wait that gets other people I’ve met. Cut to me checking every day for 6 months to see if this video was gonna drop. Every single day without fail. You are one of the most underrated RUclipsrs I’ve ever had the pleasure of finding. I haven't even watched this video and I’m physically shaking over how hype merely seeing that it’s finally out. It’s actually shocking how you haven’t reached a million subs with this level of video quality. I cannot wait for your next video, I can’t wait to watch this one. You should be proud of what you’ve done, Mr. Bickuribox. You've secured a loyal follower.
@@bickuribox12 I've just on the cusp of finishing this video and if anything, I should be thanking you. This was every second worth the wait. The Superstars video will be amazing when it releases, I just know it.
just click the bell icon dude. dont get me wrong i also consider him to be one of the best game reviewers and im happy that you are enjoying his content as much as you seem to do but im just saying. you will just get a notification as soon as he uploads
"Really keeps the player on their toes when functionality isn't guaranteed" just about sums up my entire experience with this DLC. I was on my toes so long I'm now qualified to be a world class ballerina.
30:23 “I’d rather have a short, boring fight than a long one, so I do consider it an improvement.” “More on that when I get to Superstars” That felt like a warning, and now I’m really curious and scared to hear what you think when you drop the Superstars video.
Them 3 final bosses are in a polite diss of their existence, I assume. They aren't really bad, but damn, we could have given more opportunities to hit them.
The way you described the frustration of perfect parry, the inconsistent attacks, and not knowing how to target the cable made me feel so validated. I enjoy Final Horizon a lot more now that I've played it a couple of times but I was so upset after beating it the first time cause I was so burnt out and frustrated after dealing with the bosses. This was a great review and keep up the good work.
it’s so weird that supreme’s scrapped qte’s were completely left out in both the update and the patch, you’d think they’d add it back since it looked nearly finished (but yeah it’s great to have you back!! big ups to you getting through this massive ordeal)
@@NotSoGenesiz Those were fully finished (at least the first one), and they didn’t add them in!? I’m starting to wonder if Sonic Team knows how to differentiate their beta from final products…
@@mrmelonman2893 I've heard somewhere that they added the other gun qte in the update, but the trigger for the qte is apparently very hidden. But I've yet to find any online proof of that qte ever being added in the base game, so I'm 99% sure that qte still remains unused, unfortunately. Which is odd, considering that they could've easily added it in with no changes at all.
Sonic Frontiers is ultimately a prototype. All the free updates and even the new characters to play with is all a test so that Sonic Team can choose the exact direction for the sequel. And Honestly I bet that the inclusion of Shadow in the Sonic Generations remastered is at least partially the same. Still if the prototype is this good. I can't wait to see what the sequel, now that they know what they want to do, will bring.
True but O feel bad for so many fans That don’t appreciate the game because of its Unfinished State it’s Fair to want more and I understand that But I just want everyone to be Happy be as they waited for So much of this to come back for so long
@@RaiginAnimator It just goes to show how important execution and polish can be. It makes perfect sense that, for many, it's not enough to just play a Sonic game for the sake of supporting Sega in their experimentation with old ideas. There has to be a certain level of quality and.. less jank, for their efforts to be appreciated-- _especially_ from the perspective of a consumer who's paying money to play it (I can't fault anyone for not wanting to play a "prototype" with so many obvious flaws when they can just spend their money on something more polished).
@@DLxxx Yup but Substitute Sega with Sonic team It’s just a minor pet level bc sonic Team develops the Games but so many people Say Sega the publisher instead of them Sega rushed the games out the door and Sonic team Tries to make them ready in time
Final Horizons was definetly the point where I knew that I don't think I wanna see sonic team try to implement RPG style attack and defense stats ever again. Along with other issues, it fundamentally compromises any potential in the games combat with extremely poor balancing. I never know what is the "right" level to fight enemies at and its so easy to overshoot it to the point that I wonder why combat is in this game at all.
Combat in Final Horizon was very secondary: the other characters trees were more focused on their plaforming abilities (which makes sense since this is a platformer, I'd rather get that part down before anything else), and most of the combat was skippable because you can get gears or the tower kokos by treasure spots (it's not ideal, but if someone wasn't feeling the combat, it's an alternative). I don't think having RPG stats is bad or shouldn't be revisited because of one game, I think the unbalace nature of final horizon's combat is a product of making the update in one year, while also working on the other 2 updates and other projects
I'd be okay with Attack & Defense stats to come back _as long as_ boss HP and power are scaled accordingly or secret bosses that Attack & Defense berries make them a little bit easier to fight.
43:33 a different review of Final Horizons put this into perspective for me: Parrying to defeat those spinny dudes is probably the intended way to beat them, not an alternate way to beat them, because it's supposed to train you to use perfect parry in the upcoming boss fights. They just didn't do a great job at it lol, because yeah, I like everyone else thought Cyloop was the intended way to beat them.
I actually ended up beating them in a pretty different way. I would cyloop them, start a combo, then right before my time was up, I would spindash into them and blast off. The spindash did fairly good damage, and helped me save time by not being knocked back.
57:00 My greatest flex in video game history is doing it in 5 attempts on hard mode. No guides, no nothing. I made up my own strategy for DPS against Wyvern, did Knight first try, and it all took me around 50 minutes. I remember turning it to easy to see the phases then back to hard once I mastered Wyvern, it was a very viable strat.
The final horizon stuff, even with all of its issues, is what finally sold me on the frontiers gameplay formula. Here's hoping they learn from this DLC and make something amazing out of the gate next time around. Great video man, keep up the great work!
The Master Coco Trail took me no joke 3 HOURS, because I refused to look up any strategies, being scared I would come across spoilers. I had fun just because I like games like Geometry Dash, where you have to start over many times. I might have masochistic tendences ngl
I don’t mind retrying the bosses per se, just the time spent climbing Giganto or chasing Wyvern. If it was back to back bossfights or it gave you a way to get rings in the climbing sequences it would’ve been a lot more bearable.
44:00 So i think this trial was made with the perfect parry in mind like you went on to mention a couple of minutes later. I think it was just designed to get us to practice that timing for when we needed to use the perfect parry in the final fight or in the final king koco trial.
I will say, despite the massive difficulty spike pre-patch, after all of the trial and errors, the difficult trial towers (Well, mainly the 2nd one, Snake's Trial), having to go through all if the platforming segments and story progression, in the end of it all, it's good to say that it feels rewarding after you finish the final boss in the DLC, knowing you managed to beat it, and being left with an ending that is just so wholesome it'd bring a tear to your eye as the vocal version of I'm With You starts playing.
Dude your humor is so freaking dry yet enthusiastic, your usage of video essays to add your little nitpicks is just so awesome that I actively wait for your videos to come out
Got two of my favorite examples of this dude’s writing “There are many different routes to take, rails to grind, and plenty of flying through the air, love to see it Where’re you _taking_ me?!” 1:20:56 “Look at the calamity on display! The timer is already big enough, making it hard to see, now it’s flashing red, blending in with the red enemy, I’m going under a bridge that _shrouds the area even more, the bomb above my head covers it up when I’m about to approach it_ and I have a split second to react after the homing reticle shows up. _Well,_ surely they wouldn’t do it a second time-“ 1:35:18
This is easily the definition of quality over quantity. Normally, I never watch videos this long, but this is amazing. As a Film student looking to be in Editing as my career, this is so good and entertaining to watch.
Was debating whether or not to click on this video or add to watch later, watched the first 3 seconds, wasn’t disappointed. I’m glad I clicked now lol.
Small tip for the snake challenge with the umbrella guys, the challenge is specifically to test how fast you can parry between multiple attacks, that's why the challenge becomes wayyyyyy easier if you bait the umbrella attack, parry, hit it 3-4 times, parry again and repeat, you could even finish with time left
After months of daily checking your channel and patreon looking up to this video, it's finally here. Thank you for your videos. These are my favourite Sonic videos on this platform!
1:12:51 You couldn't have better summarized my feelings with the final boss. After 45 minutes I just gave up and just watched a walkthrough cause of how fed up I was and just wanted to see how it ends.
I've genuinely been checking youtube daily just to see if you've uploaded, your writing and editing style is just fantastic, super excited to watch the video
This is one of the videos I’ve been waiting for since the update came out, and I’m not disappointed. Talking points are all addressed and criticisms are fair. Comedy is very entertaining, it’s one of my favorite parts about your videos. Editing is very well implemented with taking points and comedy. All of that makes an enjoyable video in my book. Great work! Also, when I fought the revamped The End, I did get all those moments and it was awesome. I actually felt what others felt when they originally fought the original titans (I got all them spoiled because I got the game a month later). Again, great work!
Man, I feel kinda proud of myself, 44:39 I thought the repeated parry for this challenge was what you HAD to do, because I instantly wrote off the other way as wrong, due to how bad it was!
It definitely was though. Cause there is NO WAY that repeatingly cylooping and punching the enemy was the intended solution in the parry based trials. Which are intended to prepare you for the perfect parry mechanic. So, no... that was DEFINITELY the intended solution.
ur right that is the right way to beat it. The entirety of the trials are designed to prepare you to use the perfect parry for the final boss, and while in concept it fails in some areas, this is how it was designed in concept.
I just had a friend who hasn't played Sonic since SA2 go through Frontiers and he loved this section so much. Especially the final fight and ending. Meanwhile when I merely mentioned what the Final Horizon was like to a veteran Sonic fan, he was like "yeah I don't think I'm gonna finish my playthrough."
I found that you could still use the stomp in the second trial tower. Using the stomp required perfect spacing, speed, and timing to actually defeat those shielded enemies in a timely manner, but if you pull it off like I did, you could finish with a pretty massive time lead over the timer.
50:12 My. Thoughts. EXACTLY. Wyvern is the absolute worst part of this ENTIRE trial, with its awful parry windows, tedious phases and fast attacks. Also, I'm *so* glad I'm not the only one who noticed that the missles blended in with the red rings. Like, DUDE.. I can *barely* see the missles heading in my direction.
One thing I'm surprised that you didn't mention was that in 4-G, the speedometer is oddly bugged with the Spindash, it'll instantly put you in top speed, I was very confused when playing the stage blind as I thought I got hit by a mine or something. Other than than, excellent nuanced perspective that I was hoping for!
It's not a bug, that's what it's meant to do. And actually, he got a small detail wrong; being in top speed alone doesn't make you explode, using the Spin Dash does. The Spin Dash instantly gets you into top speed, but it'll make you explode if you use it too long. Running normally does not cause that to happen.
1:09:24 even looking up what to do in this fight maybe it was just the source I found but it wasn't clear how I was supposed to sever the cord just that I had to do something, so I literally mashed every button for about 5 minutes until I did it Hell I still didn't know I was supposed to dodge mid combo until watching this section of this video
Genuinely one of the only RUclipsrs I can sit down and watch like a movie. I’ve been around since your rotmg stuff and I love the long form content so much man!
I haven't played the final DLC for Sonic Frontiers yet, but I'm always in for a good bickuribox upload! I think Knuckle's start up glide animation looks pretty cool honestly. It makes the send off feel much more impactful. That said, I think if it had some beneficial gameplay merit, it could make up for the sluggishness it suffers from. Like, if in the start up animation, he was able to turn on a dime, it would make almost all of his wall climbing problems more bearable. Let's say you climb up a way, hit the ceiling, and you fall down, you can start gliding, then turn around while in the start up animation, and get back on the wall. Of course this would only help so much and doesn't fix the awkward corner collision issues, but it would be less annoying. In general, I think that messing up something that was already done well in the past (in this case, the control), is nothing new to the Sonic Series, but no less annoying. Ah well, as Sonic Fans, we take what we can get sometimes
Finally someone said it. It BAFFLES ME that nobody ever seems to bring up how _stupid_ the design of the new guardians are! They literally just shoot projectiles haphazardly to the point of being almost impossible to dodge without sheer dumb luck. This is not how you make enemies harder, its bad game design. It feels like baby's first Kaizo or something.
DEAR GOD WE HAVE LIFE 11:23 so this is the big thing that sincerely killed my enjoyment of knuckles. The damn camera on walls back in base was so damn awful *I am not joking* it clipped my sight into the pillars, jetted it out halfway and anytime I would move I was basically watching the camera have a seizure. This happened. Every. Single time 25:26 another issue I don't think was ever fixed. If you died at all to silver hammer as knuckles or any of the other amiigos _for some reason upon reloading the music tracks for the overworld and the silver hammer would stack on top of each other_ and it just sounds like a damn mess
Hey, I wanted to say thank you. I used to watch your every video back like 5 years ago when I was addicted to RotMG, and though I have long since pushed that behind me (it really was ruining my life), I am so happy that after playing Sonic Frontiers I found your videos again. At first I was apprehensive, knowing if I tried Realm content I'd likely get sucked back into that abhorrent waste of time, but I eventually gave your Frontiers review series a shot. And I am so glad I did. It made me so happy that your style of humor and review hasn't changed in the slightest. I look forward to seeing your future content.
1:06:51 Never in my years of playing Sonic games, I have never seen a boss take Sonic out of his Super Form before. Sure we have seen him get damaged in his Super Form, but to outright get nullified from his Super Form was an immediate shock to me. This has never been done with the likes of Perfect Chaos, Time Eater, Egg Wizard, or even Solaris. The End really IS the most powerful villain in Sonic lore. And iirc, Super Sonic was in his most powerful version of himself after the Master King trial too. What a badass moment in Sonic history.
@TheCoolguymanly Plot-induced stupidity + it wasn't even a fight. Cause by that logic, Knuckles in base form could beat any Super Form along with any other enemy powered by the Chaos Emeralds. Stop taking that scene seriously. It was just to move the plot forward in the beginning of the game
@@R.J.Crimson99 Hahahaha I don’t disagree, but I’m just making a point that while I get you found the scene in Frontiers here cool, it’s undermined by a lot of how the franchise has done things. I don’t really take power level stuff in Sonic seriously ever. And the big cinematic presentation here doesn’t really change that.
It has been too long since I’ve encountered a longform video that actually required me to *watch it,* instead of leaving it on as background noise while I played a game. Well done. *Well done.* 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There are actually some points where the ninja enemies will create a shield, forcing you to dodge in order to attack their exposed back. I assume this was what they were going with when you need to break the cable, they really should’ve just added that same red shield effect to make it easier for players to make the connection that their attacks weren’t doing damage and they needed to do the same thing as before
this is an amazing video, and im glad it was made because I'd never expect someone to make an entire hour long video on not Sonic Frontiers itself, but it's free DLC like that's just insane well done bro 👍
Literally my most anticipated video for the past few months, I’m only like a quarter of a way through and he’s already addressed everything I expected to including how op the tornado is 😂
45:33 For the Tiger’s Trial, I learned that you can beat the wolves much faster if you do a jump where you’re slightly off the ground, but not too far off that after you parry them in midair, you should have enough time to hold the stomp button to damage most, if not all of them at once so long as they’re close enough to your vicinity. The timing is strict, but feels satisfying to pull off when you take down both at the same time.
So, I've been meaning to write this in one of your videos, seems fitting to be in the one that finishes the saga from which I discovered your channel What you do is unique and special, you are one of my all time favorite reviewers because you managed to make a style unrivaled by any other, it's the in-depth exploration of mechanics, features and gimmicks, while also delving in players' ability to adapt and make their own solution, paired with your masterful sense of humor, by which I mean stopping mid sentence to comment on something that's happening in the background footage, always with one of the best deliveries I've ever seen which make your videos always infinitely rewatchable, and I can't wait for others to come; I'm a fan of reviewing channels, I've seen many and know of many enough to make a list for the most varied of genres, and the ones that I always remember to go and watch if they have something new has in common the fact that they are so different from one another, their script, their comedy, their eloquence, their edit and such, channels like Nova Zone and his deep understanding of what makes a game replayable and fun is the sole reason as to why I gave my 5th chance to Gunvolt, and now am an undying fan of it, or channels like KingK where you can feel the effort and passion on his retrospective videos, Breadsword and his way of talking to the viewer, as if you where in a deep conversation with him, and his breath taking long as fuck intros that have a space in your mind forever, Caribou-kun and his way of sharing his knowledge of his hobbies and passion with such a fire behind each second, CheeseGX's way of teaching you the full history of the most niche of things, KNIJohn and his unnecessary delving in mechanics to a point that at this point you played the game with him, RPGMonger and how he can convince you to give a shot to practically anything, and so so many others, for me, it's your humor, the way you can keep a video entertaining from minute 1 until the ending, and still be informative of everything you feel necessary, and I can't wait for your next video
I really appreciate that you covered the initial update and the patch that followed, that insane production value alongside your genuinely amazing humor made this so worth wait. Hope you’re doing well man 🙏
Istg you have some of the worst luck imaginable, when it comes to experiencing bugs & glitches.😭 Fr though, this is some of the best Frontiers content on YT, like I just love how honest you are with your opinions, good & bad. You'll notice the hidden details & cool trivia we missed, whilst also being critical of the issues that impact this game. Truly fulfilling to watch. Think I might just boot up Frontiers on my XSX again, climb up those Towers again & maybe even rematch the Guardians as Sonic & the Titans.
I just discovered your channel and I gotta say your editing has incredibly comedic timing. Whether it's the sardonic tone or out-of-nowhere slapstick, but this is the kind of humor that's enough to make me subscribe.
I happen to be really bad at timing. The final trial took me 9 hours(yes, nine)of constantly retrying, just because of wyvern and my refusal to change the difficulty. ... unfortunately, this had long led me to the realization that the stomp as super sonic is the best move for DPS, and of course, that cannot cut the cable during the final boss (and to be honest other attacks working is news to me, they sure didn't when I tried them), which as a result took me 3 hours of failing until I finally caved and looked up what to do. Good times.
The thing about the cinematic attacks in Frontiers is that they slow down the enemies. You'll deal much more damage by mixing the stomp attack with cyclone kick to maximize slowdowns and have longer openings against bosses. Less DPS, but longer openings, which result in overall more damage.
@@roiitzkovich4545 Didn't want to go into too much detail, but I did use the cyclone kick quite a bit as well. That being said, it was more of an input problem (since doing several stomps in a row could get tricky, alternating is much easier), or to generate more meter. I had to go through a lot of gigantos suffice to say, and stomp spam is extremely effective if done correctly, slowdown or not. Damage is also capped of course because of phase transitions, so once you've reached the max damage per opening(which stomp accomplishes), slowdowns become detrimental since you're on a timer. Of course, if you're at that point you can probably clear the trial easily regardless, if you don't have my timing issues. I was really just failing at wyvern over and over... and over.
@@CyclonSilver The stomp-cyclone kick strategy is especially useful on guardians. You can beat many bosses on their 1st phase with how long you can stretch the openings. Against titans though, I guess DPS matters more.
"sonic has so many refferences it calls back to itself" And not only, i just see this video now and i love how the relationships, choreography (not as much) and more than everything is much more fleshed out and worthy of saving the franchise in that aspect
Another thing to mention is that in the final fight during the cutscene when the end throws that giant energy ball at you, if you had less than 100 rings before the cutscene started, you just straight up die. Since this isn’t explained at all, a lot of people had no idea why they died at that point or what they did wrong. I don’t know if this was addressed in the patch since I didn’t fight the boss again after it was released.
I think the dying if you have less than 100 rings is intentional, but it wasn't mentioned anywhere from my replays. So you still didn't know if you were experiencing the boss for the first time
literally 2 days ago I was going back through some of your older reviews thinking, "man I wonder when he's gonna upload again." Love the work you've done!
Bickuribox I always enjoy your view points. I too thought 4 I was 4-1 and ran it first. Though I have say I truly enjoyed the new cyberspace levels and the new end boss fight despite the issues with them. I actually think the delay for tails upwards movement is for the most part fine. It gives you a bit of time to fix and wrestle with teh camera
I just found you today, I really like the effort put in and how easy it is to follow even if you can't see the video (as I listen while I'm working) I haven't played the game but it feels much more fair than "Der bad" I don't comment often but I want to thank you for the effort put into this video that made the hour and a half enjoyable, educating on small bits and pieces and fulfilling, I hope to see more videos of yours pop in my notifications
How is it that Sega still can't top/upgrade the Adventure style gameplay of Sonic's cast of pals? I get the change and experimentation like Frontiers using levels but it also why I haven't played a sonic game other than mania and origins since black knight. They first botched these controls in heroes and 06. Glitchy grind rails & getting stuck on walls. Smh with Sega taking baby steps with the adventure nostalgia lately.
My favorite thing about The Final Horizon is how BOLD it is. Frontiers had a lot of great ideas it felt like it went halfway on, whereas The Final Horizon doesn’t go halfway on anything. It full sends everything it does and I think these polarizing extremities can give everyone a better idea of what a Sonic game can and should be like. Cyberspace, for instance, is now genuinely my favorite platforming in any video game ever. Getting under a minute time in that bomb level while collecting the silver moon rings was one of the greatest feelings I have EVER gotten out of a Sonic stage. Seriously, the level design is buttery smooth, and Sonic’s control and moveset feels so free and just flows so well now. Even if they went back to just having normal stages, which I doubt they’ll do, if they continue to follow this design philosophy then we could have one of the best Sonic games ever on our hands, if not the best. The difficulty is another divisive thing, but I think pushing us too far and then finding a spot to crank it down to is a much better idea than slowly inching closer to the sweet spot. The combat definitely needs tweaking, but the Guardian fights like Silver Hammer definitely show some promise in terms of better enemy design.
I adored the final fight because my experience was completely the opposite. I tried parrying for a while until I realized how to properly attack, saw him attack my buddies, had the cool orb cutscene mid fight, got the grand slam animation, had the grab escape QTE, and finished the fight in I think two tries. It had me practically screaming in excitement. My favorite cinematic moments in this series ever.
The thing about the perfect parry is that i had been playing the hedgehog may cry mod for months before the final horizion. And that parry had a slightly better/longer window so this bullshit wyvern stuff was throwing me off even more since i HAD learned to counter it but my muscle memory was just the slightest bit off. The missle parry i always had down though, i would just watch the missiles, calm myself for a second and lock in and i was usually fine.
Tbh with you the soldier trial being the best was also for how it reminded me of the coolest part of the trailer,sonic standing on the border of everything as he glances at the hoard of soldiers as they sprint towards him as he clenches his fists runs into battle and beats them down one by one ending the battle with a smirk,another one of my most favorite things about the final horizon was without a doubt the love letter to idw fans,when supersonic 2 lands the grand slam attack it’s a straight up reference to idw issue 29 where he lands the exact beat down on zavok,great video man,can’t wait to see the superstars review whenever it’s posted ❤
All I need to say is that THIS notification is all I needed in my life right now. Hell, this got me more hyped than the actual update ITSELF. Your videos are on another level, man.
58:14 Increased Parry Window on Easy difficulty wasn't there initially. When I was making my video I remember that changing the difficulty didn't do anything and then they rolled out an update that increased Parry Window when I was getting footage.
After watching this, all I can say is is that much like its reviews, much like these videos, much like how this game is received: Sonic Frontiers is touching. These reviews were how I discovered this channel. I actively relisten to them for white noise at work and for opinions on new games because they are so thorough. I was subscribed since the first frontiers video I think, but your videos are great. Thank you!
I'm super late to the party, but I just finished Frontiers last week and I gotta say: Tails was actually my favorite character to play I hate the wind-up on his flight and "stomp" but I really enjoyed how unique he was compared to the others (even if his debuff parry is useless in Extreme mode) The wrench throw instead of a homing attack is actually a change that I loved since it made him more unique and emphasized further differences from Sonic. While I loved playing as Amy, since she was fun, I didn't like that she was essentially a better Sonic at platforming and a worse Sonic at combat. So even though in execution I loved playing as her and thought she was fun, conceptually, I just hate her moveset. Especially since she was one of the most unique characters in Adventure, Advance and 06. The only one without a jump ball or spindash now given both PLUS a homing attack?? Knuckles and Amy have never had that. It's been relegated to Sonic, and the characters intended to be clones/parallels to him like Shadow and Blaze Taking characters with such unique playstyles and turning them into enhanced Sonic clones was just a miss in my book . And that's where my enjoyment of Tails came in: His platforming challenges were so much different from the others because he had different tools, like an easily accessed projectile and giant beam cannon. (He also had the most care put into his animations I think. I mean, look how adorable his parry is) But even more than making the others stand out; not giving them a homing attack, cyloop, spindash, wall-run, etc would make *Sonic* stand out more Since Amy and Knuckles are just Sonic+ it seems the only thing he's good for in this DLC are climbing the frustrating towers, doing the trials afterwards and playing through cyberspace, which is optional with how many Lookout Koco you can get from random signs Sonic is basically sidelined and outshined in his own game, rather than having unique aspects that set him apart like in Adventure Sonic was the only character who could homing attack, spindash and light speed dash, so while he and Tails shared levels, you had to completely change your approach as Tails (though Adventure wasn't perfect since Tails was super easy, but you get my point) Knuckles and Amy also visited those stages, but experienced them even more differently with their unique abilities I don't wanna make it sound like I didn't enjoy playing as them, because I did. And I'd rather have "Sonic with some tweaks" than no alternate characters at all. But they do shine the brightest when the differences are more stark imo, so I hope their next playable appearance takes more inspiration from their Adventure appearances Especially with Amy. I'm not a fan of how Heroes, Advance 2 and now Origins and Superstars have just made her a Sonic clone when she was the most unique character in SA1 and Advance. And why the hell does Knuckles need a homing attack? He can punch, jump and glide. He doesn't need the assistance platforming OR defeating enemies lol
36:50 You described the feeling perfectly. Having automatic sections be short and scenic breaks from the platforming is exactly what I woild love to see going forward. This game genuinely made me look forward to an automated section cause I could finally take a moment to just relax.....before inevitably failing the next jump and falling to the bottom cause I panicked and wasted my boost and double jump in a way that not even the gravity-defying infinite parry could save me. Seriously, if it wasn't for the infinite parry, I don't even want to fathom how long those towers would have taken me to finish.
Honestly during The End boss fight I unplugged the Titan and released the gun immediately by accident. Granted it was by accident. Imagine my confusion after dying like 20 times trying to figure out how I targeted it, and my confusion when I realized I had to dodge…
I actually managed to beat it without realizing that you were supposed to parry the rockets, I just waited for the second phase of wyvern to happen naturally, to accomplish this I essentially had to do a no damage run, parrying every attack first try, and by the end of the trial i had only 9 rings to spare, then the game did the infinite loading thing before i was able to save and I had to do it all again. Still worth it for that ending.
There should've been a damn achievement for beating the master trial through hard mode BEFORE the patch. Took me a 2 whole HOURS to beat it! All i can say is im glad future players wont ever suffer like we did.
There are actually two other things added to Cyber Space you didn’t touch on: 1. When you die before reaching the first checkpoint, the clock resets to zero automatically, so you don’t have to do the reset run trick. 2. A fifth mark has been added. This one is purple and appears if the boost carry into jump setting is enabled. Also, the marks are triangles now instead of asterisks (*), and they form a pentagon shape.
Thank you all for your enduring patience while I worked on this endless project. It’s good to be back
The wait was easily worth it since I genuinely needed to know your thoughts on this update since it caused....SO MUCH buzz online in the community.
Great to have you back. Bow what is your thoughts on sonic x shadow?
Thrilled for your updates! Your Sonic content is 2nd to none!
My goat is back
THE LEGEND IS BACK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
The beginning of the video sounds like Bickuri if he was merging into traffic without looking because Tails was on a billboard or something
Sometimes I wonder what bickuri would do if sonic came crashing through his window in the middle of the night...
@@gudmythman ill arrange that
those animals are pretty fucking funny after all
YOUR FREAKING PFP LMAO @@PowerMan87
@@PowerMan87Yeah, that pfp threw me for a second.
Beating Pre-Patch Final Horizons on Hard Mode on my First Playthrough was my biggest achievement last year.
@JediDrewsterT
Nice, same here!
Although, I beat it on Hard Mode in my second playthrough.
I did it on Extreme. Biggest achievement of my life.
Would not wish that even upon my worst enemies.
Thank you for your service
Same
I did that on extreme
Fun Fact: During the second phase of The End, if you're below 100 Rings and get hit by the orbs that cause the ring drain cutscene, you immediately lose and the cutscene changes slightly to reflect that.
I learned that the hard way when I ended up wasting time and rings not hitting that stupid cable.
I don't think there's any "good way" to learn about an instant kill that the game doesn't prepare you for, lol
Same thing happened to me but it didn't kill me the second time I tried I only had around 90 something rings and ended up beating the boss
this happened to me and i was so confused i started treating it like a mash QTE on subsequent fights i thought they just forgot to add the ui elements 😭
wait really? I'm surprised no one even thought to hit the cable given it has such a prominent feature and one of the stronger moves auto locks onto it
and i was down to 12 or 11 rings during the second phase and i managed to finish the fight before losing my super form, most of my time doing this fight was trying to remove that damn healing hook attached to Supreme
The legend has returned from the hyperbolic time chamber.
HE CAN ATTACK YOUR FRIENDS!!!!?????
I'm pretty sure it's on a timer, but he usually gets shredded to pieces before that
Peak referencing peak, love both of you
It happens if you don’t dodge above him and parry his arms when he’s flailing about.
yes if you stagger him and go behind him
Hello Mr sodaburg
Usually with content creators I tend to prefer, I don’t actually care about the wait for a new video. It usually comes, I’m happy, I watch it, and I move on with my life. I’ve never bothered with that hype wait that gets other people I’ve met.
Cut to me checking every day for 6 months to see if this video was gonna drop. Every single day without fail.
You are one of the most underrated RUclipsrs I’ve ever had the pleasure of finding. I haven't even watched this video and I’m physically shaking over how hype merely seeing that it’s finally out. It’s actually shocking how you haven’t reached a million subs with this level of video quality.
I cannot wait for your next video, I can’t wait to watch this one. You should be proud of what you’ve done, Mr. Bickuribox. You've secured a loyal follower.
Thank you so much
@@bickuribox12 I've just on the cusp of finishing this video and if anything, I should be thanking you. This was every second worth the wait. The Superstars video will be amazing when it releases, I just know it.
110% same here
@MrH1pster this. This channel is the most unexpected, yet greatest gem the algorithm has ever gifted me.
just click the bell icon dude. dont get me wrong i also consider him to be one of the best game reviewers and im happy that you are enjoying his content as much as you seem to do but im just saying. you will just get a notification as soon as he uploads
"Really keeps the player on their toes when functionality isn't guaranteed" just about sums up my entire experience with this DLC. I was on my toes so long I'm now qualified to be a world class ballerina.
30:23
“I’d rather have a short, boring fight than a long one, so I do consider it an improvement.”
“More on that when I get to Superstars”
That felt like a warning, and now I’m really curious and scared to hear what you think when you drop the Superstars video.
Honestly, that little sneak peak just got me excited for it low-key, lol
Them 3 final bosses are in a polite diss of their existence, I assume. They aren't really bad, but damn, we could have given more opportunities to hit them.
fr Superstars spat in our faces with those bosses so I felt like I gave the game the ultimate middle finger when I beat them.
He actually does say wut he thinks on Superstars in a video (not his own), not gonna tell tho in case u don't want spoilers
@@Whyisthis-t9bTell whose video it was, I don't care for spoilers at this point
Video timecodes:
Intro: 0:00
Amy's gameplay: 2:50
Knuckles's Gameplay: 5:17
Tails's Gameplay: 16:35
Skill Tree: 19:28
Guardians Bosses: 24:27
Collectables: 30:38
Puzzles: 33:07
Trial Towers: 36:09
Master Trials: 42:32
Master King's Trial: 47:02
Final battle: 1:03:04
Some problems: 1:15:05
Cyberspace stages: 1:17:57
Conclusion: 1:38:23
Your welcome!
Thank you for the time stamps. Always like to rewatch certain parts of the video every time I come back
Thank you for your service good sir
Thanks man
This totally needs to be put in the description or pinned, good stuff.
I feel like they should be a section dedicated to wyvern 😂
bickuribox jumpscare
the good kind of jumpscare
Nah you said it i was like, BICKURIBOX DROPPED A VID???
2 new sonic games and the final season of sonic prime have come out since he last uploaded 😭
Legit, just saw it appear from nowhere
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Dat Wuz scary, ngl
My favourite part about these reviews, that I'm glad to see return, is easily the Bickuribox12 Firearm Arc
Wyvern waking the beast inside was like waking up sandy cheeks during hibernation
The way you described the frustration of perfect parry, the inconsistent attacks, and not knowing how to target the cable made me feel so validated. I enjoy Final Horizon a lot more now that I've played it a couple of times but I was so upset after beating it the first time cause I was so burnt out and frustrated after dealing with the bosses. This was a great review and keep up the good work.
"Thank you so much for watching my longest review ever..."
- Bickurbox12, one year ago
Three Frontiers updates later...
"Man, does time really fly..."
it’s so weird that supreme’s scrapped qte’s were completely left out in both the update and the patch, you’d think they’d add it back since it looked nearly finished
(but yeah it’s great to have you back!! big ups to you getting through this massive ordeal)
What was the scrapped QTE?
@@NotSoGenesiz Those were fully finished (at least the first one), and they didn’t add them in!?
I’m starting to wonder if Sonic Team knows how to differentiate their beta from final products…
they did add one back in i think
@@mrmelonman2893 I've heard somewhere that they added the other gun qte in the update, but the trigger for the qte is apparently very hidden.
But I've yet to find any online proof of that qte ever being added in the base game, so I'm 99% sure that qte still remains unused, unfortunately.
Which is odd, considering that they could've easily added it in with no changes at all.
@@fransiscayulianita68 According to what you’ve heard, what is that trigger?
Sonic Frontiers is ultimately a prototype.
All the free updates and even the new characters to play with is all a test so that Sonic Team can choose the exact direction for the sequel.
And Honestly I bet that the inclusion of Shadow in the Sonic Generations remastered is at least partially the same.
Still if the prototype is this good. I can't wait to see what the sequel, now that they know what they want to do, will bring.
True but O feel bad for so many fans That don’t appreciate the game because of its Unfinished State it’s Fair to want more and I understand that But I just want everyone to be Happy be as they waited for So much of this to come back for so long
@@RaiginAnimator It just goes to show how important execution and polish can be. It makes perfect sense that, for many, it's not enough to just play a Sonic game for the sake of supporting Sega in their experimentation with old ideas. There has to be a certain level of quality and.. less jank, for their efforts to be appreciated-- _especially_ from the perspective of a consumer who's paying money to play it (I can't fault anyone for not wanting to play a "prototype" with so many obvious flaws when they can just spend their money on something more polished).
@@DLxxx Yup but Substitute Sega with Sonic team
It’s just a minor pet level bc sonic Team develops the Games but so many people Say Sega the publisher instead of them Sega rushed the games out the door and Sonic team Tries to make them ready in time
Oh absolutely I agree with this
@@DLxxx frontiers is probably the most fun and janky good game you could possibly get nowadays honestly
Final Horizons was definetly the point where I knew that I don't think I wanna see sonic team try to implement RPG style attack and defense stats ever again. Along with other issues, it fundamentally compromises any potential in the games combat with extremely poor balancing. I never know what is the "right" level to fight enemies at and its so easy to overshoot it to the point that I wonder why combat is in this game at all.
Combat in Final Horizon was very secondary: the other characters trees were more focused on their plaforming abilities (which makes sense since this is a platformer, I'd rather get that part down before anything else), and most of the combat was skippable because you can get gears or the tower kokos by treasure spots (it's not ideal, but if someone wasn't feeling the combat, it's an alternative). I don't think having RPG stats is bad or shouldn't be revisited because of one game, I think the unbalace nature of final horizon's combat is a product of making the update in one year, while also working on the other 2 updates and other projects
I'd be okay with Attack & Defense stats to come back _as long as_ boss HP and power are scaled accordingly or secret bosses that Attack & Defense berries make them a little bit easier to fight.
43:33 a different review of Final Horizons put this into perspective for me: Parrying to defeat those spinny dudes is probably the intended way to beat them, not an alternate way to beat them, because it's supposed to train you to use perfect parry in the upcoming boss fights.
They just didn't do a great job at it lol, because yeah, I like everyone else thought Cyloop was the intended way to beat them.
I actually ended up beating them in a pretty different way. I would cyloop them, start a combo, then right before my time was up, I would spindash into them and blast off. The spindash did fairly good damage, and helped me save time by not being knocked back.
i personally feel like they should have disabled cyloop during that section
"Didn't know I'm Here was from the Titan's perspective."
🎶 In my hands, I hold the ones I love 🎶
*(holding a gun)*
Supreme loves his gun confirmed
XD
@@WolflaChan Seems so, yeah.
@@UpsAndDowns87he’s shadows secret child
Supreme X Gun. Shame Gun betrayed Supreme. It’s like when Tails shot Cosmo.
Supreme is American confirmed
57:00 My greatest flex in video game history is doing it in 5 attempts on hard mode. No guides, no nothing. I made up my own strategy for DPS against Wyvern, did Knight first try, and it all took me around 50 minutes. I remember turning it to easy to see the phases then back to hard once I mastered Wyvern, it was a very viable strat.
That could only be luck
Get on my level. This only took me 3 🥱
54:14 "He breaks through it all" I see what you did there😂
😂😂 I was looking for that comment
...WHAT COMES AROUND.
COMES BACK AROUND AGAIN
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32AND IF WE DON'T CALM DOWN, WE'LL BE LOST IN THE RAIN
It's here, the most anticipated video of all time
The hype was worth it, we survived the long winter
@@beatblocksgaming should've been longer. Lol
The final horizon stuff, even with all of its issues, is what finally sold me on the frontiers gameplay formula. Here's hoping they learn from this DLC and make something amazing out of the gate next time around. Great video man, keep up the great work!
The Master Coco Trail took me no joke 3 HOURS, because I refused to look up any strategies, being scared I would come across spoilers.
I had fun just because I like games like Geometry Dash, where you have to start over many times.
I might have masochistic tendences ngl
By any chance, do you enjoy dark souls?
I loved so much the bosses on hard that I got mad when they "fixed" it
I don’t mind retrying the bosses per se, just the time spent climbing Giganto or chasing Wyvern. If it was back to back bossfights or it gave you a way to get rings in the climbing sequences it would’ve been a lot more bearable.
@@silentnight6810 I love the series! Yes! Elden Ring is one of my favourite games of all time!
That's wild I also have masochistic tendancies in geometry dash (I think I had a mental breakdown trying to beat electrodynamix that one time)
You have become the designated SonicTuber for all-things on Sonic games that are considered divisive and I'm all here for it.
Glad to have you back man! And to see you safe ❤ :)
33:32 the head game alone is a massive improvement
it’s finally here! glad to hear from my favorite creator again!!
44:00 So i think this trial was made with the perfect parry in mind like you went on to mention a couple of minutes later. I think it was just designed to get us to practice that timing for when we needed to use the perfect parry in the final fight or in the final king koco trial.
I will say, despite the massive difficulty spike pre-patch, after all of the trial and errors, the difficult trial towers (Well, mainly the 2nd one, Snake's Trial), having to go through all if the platforming segments and story progression, in the end of it all, it's good to say that it feels rewarding after you finish the final boss in the DLC, knowing you managed to beat it, and being left with an ending that is just so wholesome it'd bring a tear to your eye as the vocal version of I'm With You starts playing.
@@WolflaChan The biggest takeaway is; Eggman is now officially a dad.
1 hour, 39 minutes, and 33 Seconds...
Gosh... I just wanted to watch a Movie!
This is great!!!
Dude your humor is so freaking dry yet enthusiastic, your usage of video essays to add your little nitpicks is just so awesome that I actively wait for your videos to come out
Got two of my favorite examples of this dude’s writing
“There are many different routes to take, rails to grind, and plenty of flying through the air, love to see it Where’re you _taking_ me?!” 1:20:56
“Look at the calamity on display! The timer is already big enough, making it hard to see, now it’s flashing red, blending in with the red enemy, I’m going under a bridge that _shrouds the area even more, the bomb above my head covers it up when I’m about to approach it_ and I have a split second to react after the homing reticle shows up. _Well,_ surely they wouldn’t do it a second time-“ 1:35:18
THE RETURN OF THE KING
What a perfect way to start my morning. Welcome back and I’m excited to listen to your thoughts on this game once again!
Good to see you here, Mr Pasquale!
This is easily the definition of quality over quantity. Normally, I never watch videos this long, but this is amazing. As a Film student looking to be in Editing as my career, this is so good and entertaining to watch.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
Was debating whether or not to click on this video or add to watch later, watched the first 3 seconds, wasn’t disappointed. I’m glad I clicked now lol.
Haha I appreciate it 👍
Small tip for the snake challenge with the umbrella guys, the challenge is specifically to test how fast you can parry between multiple attacks, that's why the challenge becomes wayyyyyy easier if you bait the umbrella attack, parry, hit it 3-4 times, parry again and repeat, you could even finish with time left
congrats on finishing!
;))))))
@@gudmythman Gudman my goat
...pause...
🥵
"This game is a rubix cube of poor decisions" is an incredible line 😂
It gave me a chuckle.
XD
After months of daily checking your channel and patreon looking up to this video, it's finally here. Thank you for your videos. These are my favourite Sonic videos on this platform!
54:15 "He *Breaks Through It All"*
God dammit you genius bastard
The long-awaited finale has finally dropped, and HO-LY, I can see why it took so long.
Godspeed Bickuribox, Always to new horizons.
I’ve been waiting for this longer than my own birthday. Yea. And so far. It’s been so worth the wait
Facts
Mr.needle mouse? Didnt expect to find you here
@@gapfmmadeira What can I say I watch peak
1:12:51
You couldn't have better summarized my feelings with the final boss. After 45 minutes I just gave up and just watched a walkthrough cause of how fed up I was and just wanted to see how it ends.
I've genuinely been checking youtube daily just to see if you've uploaded, your writing and editing style is just fantastic, super excited to watch the video
This is one of the videos I’ve been waiting for since the update came out, and I’m not disappointed.
Talking points are all addressed and criticisms are fair. Comedy is very entertaining, it’s one of my favorite parts about your videos. Editing is very well implemented with taking points and comedy. All of that makes an enjoyable video in my book. Great work!
Also, when I fought the revamped The End, I did get all those moments and it was awesome. I actually felt what others felt when they originally fought the original titans (I got all them spoiled because I got the game a month later).
Again, great work!
Man, I feel kinda proud of myself, 44:39 I thought the repeated parry for this challenge was what you HAD to do, because I instantly wrote off the other way as wrong, due to how bad it was!
It definitely was though.
Cause there is NO WAY that repeatingly cylooping and punching the enemy was the intended solution in the parry based trials.
Which are intended to prepare you for the perfect parry mechanic.
So, no... that was DEFINITELY the intended solution.
ur right that is the right way to beat it. The entirety of the trials are designed to prepare you to use the perfect parry for the final boss, and while in concept it fails in some areas, this is how it was designed in concept.
@@fransiscayulianita68well they sure fucked up, because i did it the boring way and had just enough time to finish
that cyberspace blunder bonanza had me in stitches dude
I'd imagine it'd be frustrating to experience over and over, but for a sizzle reel? very funny
It’s been 84 years…
I was just re-watching all your videos yesterday and wondering when the next one will be. Thanks for the all amazing content!
i LOVE YOU BRO. So happy to see you finish Frontiers, I've been waiting for this for ages, I'm fed, I'm happy.
I just had a friend who hasn't played Sonic since SA2 go through Frontiers and he loved this section so much. Especially the final fight and ending. Meanwhile when I merely mentioned what the Final Horizon was like to a veteran Sonic fan, he was like "yeah I don't think I'm gonna finish my playthrough."
Was waiting for this final episode❤ thank you
8:01 a mention of Code Lyoko always brightens my day
I found that you could still use the stomp in the second trial tower. Using the stomp required perfect spacing, speed, and timing to actually defeat those shielded enemies in a timely manner, but if you pull it off like I did, you could finish with a pretty massive time lead over the timer.
50:12
My. Thoughts. EXACTLY.
Wyvern is the absolute worst part of this ENTIRE trial, with its awful parry windows, tedious phases and fast attacks.
Also, I'm *so* glad I'm not the only one who noticed that the missles blended in with the red rings.
Like, DUDE.. I can *barely* see the missles heading in my direction.
Yooo a new Bickuribox12 video?? we cookin good
One thing I'm surprised that you didn't mention was that in 4-G, the speedometer is oddly bugged with the Spindash, it'll instantly put you in top speed, I was very confused when playing the stage blind as I thought I got hit by a mine or something. Other than than, excellent nuanced perspective that I was hoping for!
It's not a bug, that's what it's meant to do. And actually, he got a small detail wrong; being in top speed alone doesn't make you explode, using the Spin Dash does.
The Spin Dash instantly gets you into top speed, but it'll make you explode if you use it too long. Running normally does not cause that to happen.
@@SneeakieReally? So I don’t have to worry about holding down R2/RT/ZR for long periods in that stage?
@@TheDMan2003 nope
@@SneeakieI wondered why I wasn’t combusting to pieces when I held Boost for so long when going for the Hidden Goal…
1:09:24 even looking up what to do in this fight maybe it was just the source I found but it wasn't clear how I was supposed to sever the cord just that I had to do something, so I literally mashed every button for about 5 minutes until I did it
Hell I still didn't know I was supposed to dodge mid combo until watching this section of this video
When we needed him the most, he has returned! Always happy seeing something from you, man!
Genuinely one of the only RUclipsrs I can sit down and watch like a movie. I’ve been around since your rotmg stuff and I love the long form content so much man!
1:23:55 slight correction: Sonic will only overheat if you hold the Spin Dash for too long
I haven't played the final DLC for Sonic Frontiers yet, but I'm always in for a good bickuribox upload! I think Knuckle's start up glide animation looks pretty cool honestly. It makes the send off feel much more impactful. That said, I think if it had some beneficial gameplay merit, it could make up for the sluggishness it suffers from. Like, if in the start up animation, he was able to turn on a dime, it would make almost all of his wall climbing problems more bearable. Let's say you climb up a way, hit the ceiling, and you fall down, you can start gliding, then turn around while in the start up animation, and get back on the wall. Of course this would only help so much and doesn't fix the awkward corner collision issues, but it would be less annoying. In general, I think that messing up something that was already done well in the past (in this case, the control), is nothing new to the Sonic Series, but no less annoying. Ah well, as Sonic Fans, we take what we can get sometimes
Finally someone said it. It BAFFLES ME that nobody ever seems to bring up how _stupid_ the design of the new guardians are! They literally just shoot projectiles haphazardly to the point of being almost impossible to dodge without sheer dumb luck. This is not how you make enemies harder, its bad game design. It feels like baby's first Kaizo or something.
I have been waiting so long. Glad to see you back
22:10
"This game is a Rubik's Cube of poor decisions!"
I love this quote.
DEAR GOD WE HAVE LIFE
11:23 so this is the big thing that sincerely killed my enjoyment of knuckles.
The damn camera on walls back in base was so damn awful *I am not joking* it clipped my sight into the pillars, jetted it out halfway and anytime I would move I was basically watching the camera have a seizure. This happened. Every. Single time
25:26 another issue I don't think was ever fixed. If you died at all to silver hammer as knuckles or any of the other amiigos _for some reason upon reloading the music tracks for the overworld and the silver hammer would stack on top of each other_ and it just sounds like a damn mess
YES THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME
Hey, I wanted to say thank you.
I used to watch your every video back like 5 years ago when I was addicted to RotMG, and though I have long since pushed that behind me (it really was ruining my life), I am so happy that after playing Sonic Frontiers I found your videos again. At first I was apprehensive, knowing if I tried Realm content I'd likely get sucked back into that abhorrent waste of time, but I eventually gave your Frontiers review series a shot. And I am so glad I did. It made me so happy that your style of humor and review hasn't changed in the slightest. I look forward to seeing your future content.
1:06:51 Never in my years of playing Sonic games, I have never seen a boss take Sonic out of his Super Form before. Sure we have seen him get damaged in his Super Form, but to outright get nullified from his Super Form was an immediate shock to me. This has never been done with the likes of Perfect Chaos, Time Eater, Egg Wizard, or even Solaris. The End really IS the most powerful villain in Sonic lore. And iirc, Super Sonic was in his most powerful version of himself after the Master King trial too. What a badass moment in Sonic history.
knuckles has entered the chat
Sonic unleashed intro be like 👀
Knuckles knocks him out of Super Form at the start of Sonic 3 yeah, it’s not too special ahaha
@TheCoolguymanly Plot-induced stupidity + it wasn't even a fight. Cause by that logic, Knuckles in base form could beat any Super Form along with any other enemy powered by the Chaos Emeralds.
Stop taking that scene seriously. It was just to move the plot forward in the beginning of the game
@@R.J.Crimson99 Hahahaha I don’t disagree, but I’m just making a point that while I get you found the scene in Frontiers here cool, it’s undermined by a lot of how the franchise has done things. I don’t really take power level stuff in Sonic seriously ever. And the big cinematic presentation here doesn’t really change that.
It has been too long since I’ve encountered a longform video that actually required me to *watch it,* instead of leaving it on as background noise while I played a game.
Well done.
*Well done.* 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There are actually some points where the ninja enemies will create a shield, forcing you to dodge in order to attack their exposed back. I assume this was what they were going with when you need to break the cable, they really should’ve just added that same red shield effect to make it easier for players to make the connection that their attacks weren’t doing damage and they needed to do the same thing as before
this is an amazing video, and im glad it was made because I'd never expect someone to make an entire hour long video on not Sonic Frontiers itself, but it's free DLC like that's just insane
well done bro 👍
Literally my most anticipated video for the past few months, I’m only like a quarter of a way through and he’s already addressed everything I expected to including how op the tornado is 😂
45:33 For the Tiger’s Trial, I learned that you can beat the wolves much faster if you do a jump where you’re slightly off the ground, but not too far off that after you parry them in midair, you should have enough time to hold the stomp button to damage most, if not all of them at once so long as they’re close enough to your vicinity. The timing is strict, but feels satisfying to pull off when you take down both at the same time.
So, I've been meaning to write this in one of your videos, seems fitting to be in the one that finishes the saga from which I discovered your channel
What you do is unique and special, you are one of my all time favorite reviewers because you managed to make a style unrivaled by any other, it's the in-depth exploration of mechanics, features and gimmicks, while also delving in players' ability to adapt and make their own solution, paired with your masterful sense of humor, by which I mean stopping mid sentence to comment on something that's happening in the background footage, always with one of the best deliveries I've ever seen which make your videos always infinitely rewatchable, and I can't wait for others to come; I'm a fan of reviewing channels, I've seen many and know of many enough to make a list for the most varied of genres, and the ones that I always remember to go and watch if they have something new has in common the fact that they are so different from one another, their script, their comedy, their eloquence, their edit and such, channels like Nova Zone and his deep understanding of what makes a game replayable and fun is the sole reason as to why I gave my 5th chance to Gunvolt, and now am an undying fan of it, or channels like KingK where you can feel the effort and passion on his retrospective videos, Breadsword and his way of talking to the viewer, as if you where in a deep conversation with him, and his breath taking long as fuck intros that have a space in your mind forever, Caribou-kun and his way of sharing his knowledge of his hobbies and passion with such a fire behind each second, CheeseGX's way of teaching you the full history of the most niche of things, KNIJohn and his unnecessary delving in mechanics to a point that at this point you played the game with him, RPGMonger and how he can convince you to give a shot to practically anything, and so so many others, for me, it's your humor, the way you can keep a video entertaining from minute 1 until the ending, and still be informative of everything you feel necessary, and I can't wait for your next video
I really appreciate that you covered the initial update and the patch that followed, that insane production value alongside your genuinely amazing humor made this so worth wait. Hope you’re doing well man 🙏
Istg you have some of the worst luck imaginable, when it comes to experiencing bugs & glitches.😭
Fr though, this is some of the best Frontiers content on YT, like I just love how honest you are with your opinions, good & bad.
You'll notice the hidden details & cool trivia we missed, whilst also being critical of the issues that impact this game.
Truly fulfilling to watch.
Think I might just boot up Frontiers on my XSX again, climb up those Towers again & maybe even rematch the Guardians as Sonic & the Titans.
I just discovered your channel and I gotta say your editing has incredibly comedic timing. Whether it's the sardonic tone or out-of-nowhere slapstick, but this is the kind of humor that's enough to make me subscribe.
I happen to be really bad at timing. The final trial took me 9 hours(yes, nine)of constantly retrying, just because of wyvern and my refusal to change the difficulty.
... unfortunately, this had long led me to the realization that the stomp as super sonic is the best move for DPS, and of course, that cannot cut the cable during the final boss (and to be honest other attacks working is news to me, they sure didn't when I tried them), which as a result took me 3 hours of failing until I finally caved and looked up what to do.
Good times.
The thing about the cinematic attacks in Frontiers is that they slow down the enemies. You'll deal much more damage by mixing the stomp attack with cyclone kick to maximize slowdowns and have longer openings against bosses. Less DPS, but longer openings, which result in overall more damage.
@@roiitzkovich4545 Didn't want to go into too much detail, but I did use the cyclone kick quite a bit as well. That being said, it was more of an input problem (since doing several stomps in a row could get tricky, alternating is much easier), or to generate more meter.
I had to go through a lot of gigantos suffice to say, and stomp spam is extremely effective if done correctly, slowdown or not.
Damage is also capped of course because of phase transitions, so once you've reached the max damage per opening(which stomp accomplishes), slowdowns become detrimental since you're on a timer.
Of course, if you're at that point you can probably clear the trial easily regardless, if you don't have my timing issues. I was really just failing at wyvern over and over... and over.
@@CyclonSilver The stomp-cyclone kick strategy is especially useful on guardians. You can beat many bosses on their 1st phase with how long you can stretch the openings. Against titans though, I guess DPS matters more.
"sonic has so many refferences it calls back to itself"
And not only, i just see this video now and i love how the relationships, choreography (not as much) and more than everything is much more fleshed out and worthy of saving the franchise in that aspect
Another thing to mention is that in the final fight during the cutscene when the end throws that giant energy ball at you, if you had less than 100 rings before the cutscene started, you just straight up die. Since this isn’t explained at all, a lot of people had no idea why they died at that point or what they did wrong. I don’t know if this was addressed in the patch since I didn’t fight the boss again after it was released.
I think the dying if you have less than 100 rings is intentional, but it wasn't mentioned anywhere from my replays. So you still didn't know if you were experiencing the boss for the first time
its intentional
Genuinely my favorite sonic tuber. Absolutely loves the series but is still fair and critical without losing the sense of positivity.
I was waiting for this video to come out since the trailer
literally 2 days ago I was going back through some of your older reviews thinking, "man I wonder when he's gonna upload again."
Love the work you've done!
Bickuribox I always enjoy your view points. I too thought 4 I was 4-1 and ran it first. Though I have say I truly enjoyed the new cyberspace levels and the new end boss fight despite the issues with them. I actually think the delay for tails upwards movement is for the most part fine. It gives you a bit of time to fix and wrestle with teh camera
I just found you today, I really like the effort put in and how easy it is to follow even if you can't see the video (as I listen while I'm working) I haven't played the game but it feels much more fair than "Der bad" I don't comment often but I want to thank you for the effort put into this video that made the hour and a half enjoyable, educating on small bits and pieces and fulfilling, I hope to see more videos of yours pop in my notifications
How is it that Sega still can't top/upgrade the Adventure style gameplay of Sonic's cast of pals? I get the change and experimentation like Frontiers using levels but it also why I haven't played a sonic game other than mania and origins since black knight. They first botched these controls in heroes and 06. Glitchy grind rails & getting stuck on walls. Smh with Sega taking baby steps with the adventure nostalgia lately.
My favorite thing about The Final Horizon is how BOLD it is. Frontiers had a lot of great ideas it felt like it went halfway on, whereas The Final Horizon doesn’t go halfway on anything. It full sends everything it does and I think these polarizing extremities can give everyone a better idea of what a Sonic game can and should be like.
Cyberspace, for instance, is now genuinely my favorite platforming in any video game ever. Getting under a minute time in that bomb level while collecting the silver moon rings was one of the greatest feelings I have EVER gotten out of a Sonic stage. Seriously, the level design is buttery smooth, and Sonic’s control and moveset feels so free and just flows so well now. Even if they went back to just having normal stages, which I doubt they’ll do, if they continue to follow this design philosophy then we could have one of the best Sonic games ever on our hands, if not the best.
The difficulty is another divisive thing, but I think pushing us too far and then finding a spot to crank it down to is a much better idea than slowly inching closer to the sweet spot. The combat definitely needs tweaking, but the Guardian fights like Silver Hammer definitely show some promise in terms of better enemy design.
I adored the final fight because my experience was completely the opposite. I tried parrying for a while until I realized how to properly attack, saw him attack my buddies, had the cool orb cutscene mid fight, got the grand slam animation, had the grab escape QTE, and finished the fight in I think two tries. It had me practically screaming in excitement. My favorite cinematic moments in this series ever.
The thing about the perfect parry is that i had been playing the hedgehog may cry mod for months before the final horizion. And that parry had a slightly better/longer window so this bullshit wyvern stuff was throwing me off even more since i HAD learned to counter it but my muscle memory was just the slightest bit off. The missle parry i always had down though, i would just watch the missiles, calm myself for a second and lock in and i was usually fine.
Tbh with you the soldier trial being the best was also for how it reminded me of the coolest part of the trailer,sonic standing on the border of everything as he glances at the hoard of soldiers as they sprint towards him as he clenches his fists runs into battle and beats them down one by one ending the battle with a smirk,another one of my most favorite things about the final horizon was without a doubt the love letter to idw fans,when supersonic 2 lands the grand slam attack it’s a straight up reference to idw issue 29 where he lands the exact beat down on zavok,great video man,can’t wait to see the superstars review whenever it’s posted ❤
I literally JUST searched you yesterday to see if you posted this review yet. Glad I only had to wait a day!
Literally got jumpscared by this notification!!!
Same!
All I need to say is that THIS notification is all I needed in my life right now. Hell, this got me more hyped than the actual update ITSELF. Your videos are on another level, man.
58:14 Increased Parry Window on Easy difficulty wasn't there initially. When I was making my video I remember that changing the difficulty didn't do anything and then they rolled out an update that increased Parry Window when I was getting footage.
After watching this, all I can say is is that much like its reviews, much like these videos, much like how this game is received: Sonic Frontiers is touching. These reviews were how I discovered this channel. I actively relisten to them for white noise at work and for opinions on new games because they are so thorough. I was subscribed since the first frontiers video I think, but your videos are great. Thank you!
I'm super late to the party, but I just finished Frontiers last week and I gotta say:
Tails was actually my favorite character to play
I hate the wind-up on his flight and "stomp" but I really enjoyed how unique he was compared to the others (even if his debuff parry is useless in Extreme mode)
The wrench throw instead of a homing attack is actually a change that I loved since it made him more unique and emphasized further differences from Sonic.
While I loved playing as Amy, since she was fun, I didn't like that she was essentially a better Sonic at platforming and a worse Sonic at combat.
So even though in execution I loved playing as her and thought she was fun, conceptually, I just hate her moveset. Especially since she was one of the most unique characters in Adventure, Advance and 06. The only one without a jump ball or spindash now given both PLUS a homing attack??
Knuckles and Amy have never had that. It's been relegated to Sonic, and the characters intended to be clones/parallels to him like Shadow and Blaze
Taking characters with such unique playstyles and turning them into enhanced Sonic clones was just a miss in my book
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And that's where my enjoyment of Tails came in:
His platforming challenges were so much different from the others because he had different tools, like an easily accessed projectile and giant beam cannon.
(He also had the most care put into his animations I think. I mean, look how adorable his parry is)
But even more than making the others stand out; not giving them a homing attack, cyloop, spindash, wall-run, etc would make *Sonic* stand out more
Since Amy and Knuckles are just Sonic+ it seems the only thing he's good for in this DLC are climbing the frustrating towers, doing the trials afterwards and playing through cyberspace, which is optional with how many Lookout Koco you can get from random signs
Sonic is basically sidelined and outshined in his own game, rather than having unique aspects that set him apart like in Adventure
Sonic was the only character who could homing attack, spindash and light speed dash, so while he and Tails shared levels, you had to completely change your approach as Tails (though Adventure wasn't perfect since Tails was super easy, but you get my point)
Knuckles and Amy also visited those stages, but experienced them even more differently with their unique abilities
I don't wanna make it sound like I didn't enjoy playing as them, because I did. And I'd rather have "Sonic with some tweaks" than no alternate characters at all.
But they do shine the brightest when the differences are more stark imo, so I hope their next playable appearance takes more inspiration from their Adventure appearances
Especially with Amy. I'm not a fan of how Heroes, Advance 2 and now Origins and Superstars have just made her a Sonic clone when she was the most unique character in SA1 and Advance.
And why the hell does Knuckles need a homing attack? He can punch, jump and glide. He doesn't need the assistance platforming OR defeating enemies lol
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You described the feeling perfectly. Having automatic sections be short and scenic breaks from the platforming is exactly what I woild love to see going forward. This game genuinely made me look forward to an automated section cause I could finally take a moment to just relax.....before inevitably failing the next jump and falling to the bottom cause I panicked and wasted my boost and double jump in a way that not even the gravity-defying infinite parry could save me. Seriously, if it wasn't for the infinite parry, I don't even want to fathom how long those towers would have taken me to finish.
Honestly during The End boss fight I unplugged the Titan and released the gun immediately by accident. Granted it was by accident. Imagine my confusion after dying like 20 times trying to figure out how I targeted it, and my confusion when I realized I had to dodge…
What was your reaction when the game finally told you how to win after you beat it? XD
@@DLxxx I honestly didn’t care because the boss becomes a pushover after that point anyway
@@Ismatic1906True, lol. The fact that you can shred through it in _seconds_ after you figure it out is insane.
I actually managed to beat it without realizing that you were supposed to parry the rockets, I just waited for the second phase of wyvern to happen naturally, to accomplish this I essentially had to do a no damage run, parrying every attack first try, and by the end of the trial i had only 9 rings to spare, then the game did the infinite loading thing before i was able to save and I had to do it all again.
Still worth it for that ending.
There should've been a damn achievement for beating the master trial through hard mode BEFORE the patch. Took me a 2 whole HOURS to beat it! All i can say is im glad future players wont ever suffer like we did.
i played post-patch and still describe the master trial as "punch-in-the-dick difficult"
There are actually two other things added to Cyber Space you didn’t touch on:
1. When you die before reaching the first checkpoint, the clock resets to zero automatically, so you don’t have to do the reset run trick.
2. A fifth mark has been added. This one is purple and appears if the boost carry into jump setting is enabled. Also, the marks are triangles now instead of asterisks (*), and they form a pentagon shape.