Moose, many thanks here bro, I am a disabled vet from Desert Storm, I have one leg and spend most of my day in my wheelchair just killing time, I am thankful that you made these videos, I will try them and hopefully will be able to supplement my income to help support me,wife,three kids and a dog....thanks again bro !!!! please keep making more.
+Jeff Gregorek Will do! And I cant thank you enough for your service!! Make sure you check out my DIY Daddy channel, I am releasing a series on ebay selling that should help you make some more money as well!
Thanks for sharing your basics of smelting. Very good video. I have done a lot of melts of various metals using a propane foundry and a small Eletric foundry. Really enjoyed your melt. Thanks for sharing. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Thank you, I was able to watch all 3 steps in order, you make it look less scary lol ,than other videos I've seen, I'm very new to e waste scraping, BTW I love all your videos
Good job Moose!! NOE U got me thinking about that pile of old PC's and all the ones I see sitting by the road.ALL THE TIME. I live in Jupiter Florida.The folks around here have WAY MORE MONEY than common sense. Bet I could collect 50-60 used PC's a month. Some need minor repairs,(which I would fix and sell as good used) and many are older and would just go on the pile... I have everything U have mentioned an all 3 vids.All I need it the Precipitation agent. I have saved all vids,subscribed to your channel as well. Nothin' left to do now but, acquire precip. agent and START MAKIN' GOLD BABY!!! Thank you Mr.Moose for allowing us to see your fine method of gold recovery.. Someone once told me "it's useless to mine gold in Florida"...We know better tho,huh? :-)
I mixed my borax in with my gold powder and a lot of it . Is that where my slag is from ....I have a lot of slag and no gold button ....my gold stuck to the walls of the potato I use for a crucible. What did I do wrong
I have a half pint of what I believed and still have hope is gold powder. I was trying to melt in a cast iron skillet with a propane torch. Is that even possible cause I'm not getting any results. It's still powder.
What I did was is hot sand clear the cellphone boards then I soaked the boards in nitric acid now I am stuck with dark mud substance from the board mixed in with gold flakes not being able to separate the mud that came of the boards I mixed in the bleach in to dissolve mud and it has not dissolved yet. ie did not clear the cellphone boards with liee to remove green solder. Hey Moose what would you do next if you was me? Thanks!!
Ive got about the same amount of sediment and have worked so hard to get it. Gonna hurt to see the sediment shrink up. Ive weighed it at 5 grams but im guessing after i melt it it'll be less
How long did it take u to melt it from starting to end. I know u stop the video more times to and cut it ot make the video. But what was the melting time ?
ok .. ? i have over 1.5 lbs of gold fingers... that were pulled out of old boards....there solid fingers not like the flake on the green boards .... cant i just smelt them all down into one solid chunk....? or smelt it all together and refine it down to it purest form ? most of it doesnt have any soder on it however 4oz's of it does... cant that be melted outta the gold by smelting it out ?
that would be a big mistake. The result would be far less than 25% gold. There is still layers of other metals under the gold and once its melted and alloyed together, you will need much stronger acids to purify it.
Moose Scrapper what would you advise me to use ? or do ? I have a bunch more of these gold pins ... I'd like to do it right.. and well you seem to know your stuff and iv been following you for awhile now.. thanks for your reply and anything you can tell me to help me I'd be great full. .
What's the point of the borax? I thought borax was used in iron and steel smelting to inhibit oxidation but gold doesn't oxidize. Is the borax used to keep the gold from sticking to the crucible?
ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner! Yup, the melted borax makes a nice glassy finish that allows the gold to all melt and pool together. make sit a lot easier to pour as well.
so witch would have more 1 lbs of gold fingers or one lbs of ide pins i have tons of ide pins and also should i do small batches or would it be fine to do all at once. thanks also how are you able to keep your hands that close to 1010 celisus wouldn't that be like hold your hand over a bunsent burner
Luke Ketelhut Honestly I am not sure, there are a lot of variables. My gut says the gold fingers because the base material green board is far lighter than brass the base material under the gold in ide pins however, I would say there is much more surface area of gold in one pound of ide pins. As for the pins, you can do all at once if you like, for one pound you would need at least a half gallon of hcl. as for the heat, it is only that hot at the focal point of the flame.
Miner Kyle If its gold then yu should be able to melt it down. You will want to make sure you have a layer of borax on top and approach it really slowly to not blow away the gold.
I'm new to gold recovery and I'm just wondering why the fingers have to go through the acid wash before smelting. Couldn't you simply remove the gold bearing material from the pc boards, ink cartridges, phones, etc. and smelt them?
no, the gold layer is so incredibly thin that what you would be smelting would likely me 90% or more copper, nickel, etc. The acids remove those metals. Make sure you read CM Hokes book before trying any of this stuff. It should answer all the questions you can come up with
I could, but it would have to wait until spring. My days of scrapping outside are done for the season. Getting hit with a noreaster at this very moment.
I have a small butane stove, is it possible to glazed my melting dish by placing it on the stove and then putting the borax inside after it has become hot? Or does the borax need the direct flame? Can I preheat my graphite ingot and graphite crucible this way also?
I have a question i really need an answer to. why cant i melt silver in a graphite crucible using map gas? works just fine in one like you're using here but just wont melt completely in graphite. i buy silver along with scrapping and starting to get more into scrapping but ill buy generic and melt into hand poured. just like the feel of it better
Hello Moose, can you help me with this: I have several crucibles with a lot of tiny particules mixed with borax. When I melt some gold in it always stay gold in the crucible. Any suggestion please on how can I recover all the gold in it? Thank you
+Matt Lytle wait, what? sounds like two different things....are you talking about ink cartridges? or Ram sticks? Ram does not come in cartridges, and ink does not have fingers.... Either way you will likely make more money selling the inks to recyclers, and prices are over inflated on ebay for gold material right now so its a sellers market. You will also make more money selling the ram in ebay as a whole as well.
When you learn to wash the powder before melting, you'll get to enjoy seeing a nice little pipe form in the middle as it cools, meaning you'll have a much higher purity.
Sorry just saw where you responded. Boil in HCl once, then distilled water 3 times, then household ammonia once, then water 3 more times. Seems like a lot of work, but getting 3 9's is worth it.
That blue color in your crucible (once you have your button) tells me you have quite a bit of lead or copper in that gold. Have you ever considered using Aqua Regia to actually refine the gold first? Simply mix up some Aqua Regia, mix in your gold and stir until disolved (this makes Chloroauric Acid), then once the Aqua Regia is saturated (can't add any more gold into solution), now filter through a buchner funnel through a coffee filter (to catch contaminants, silica, etc.), then precipitate out the gold from the Chloroauric Acid by slowly adding Sodium Metabisulfite. Filter again (to remove your gold dust from the bottom of the beaker), then use THIS powder to make your button. Your end product is almost 4-9's pure. Your lead, copper, etc. will be thrown away during the filtering process.
As he said, he is not a professional just a hobbyist. Getting to 22K or higher is great for most hobbyists and you could refine repeatedly to get slightly more pure each time just using the process HE used. I am still grateful for his time to put the video together. Most people want methods which are cheaper than Nitric and HCl (Aqua Regia) so this Poor Man's AR is the perfect trick for us.
hey moose i dont know if you know this but a lot of the brass fittings you find in plumbing systems aren't exactly brass if you look at the color of the fitting and a yellow pipe you will find that the fitting is just a little bit darker and the reason for that being is that the fitting is usually known as composition. it pays a lil bit more then regular heavy brass
Hey moose great video, I was trying to mange a video of what I found scraping today but it seemed ridiculous. Long story short, if you ever find a IBM Server then grab it. It's packed full of gold!! 6 hard drives, one fiber cpu, one pcia card, gold plated pins, but here is the kicker 9 ram boards with gold plated fingers!! It blew my mind
Hey Moose I got my hands on some silver and gold plated copper fittings.I deplatted them in salt water and electricity .So now im left with a slurry ,I would like too know how to separate the gold and silver . Any sugestions would be helpfull Thanks
great video i got as far as recovering gold foils...i would like to take this 1 step further and make gold rings or other jewlery.....i heated up intel processors and let the pins drop into hcl in a beaker ....heated o a hot plate and revered foils....for jewley i thin melting down the foils and using the foil as a base for jewelery...so what if a ring has a little copper.
I want to have this result but have trouble processing the procedure, and would like if you showed again like I said I believe mixed alloy and flake. But silver is nice I think sterling silver is similar to purified silver. You should explain this really cool fascinating ideas of yours.
+CoyoteFur Gold is the best investment one can make.Especially when U "MAKE IT" yourself. No law says U have to sell it as soon as U make it. GOLD WILL GO BACK UP and a lot farther than it has in the past. Moose prob. makes more $ from gold,than U do from Yote skins...lol
2.5 grams. I took 1 pound of trimmed fingers and removed the gold foils from them. Then refined them. I was left with 2.5 grams of gold powder. I smelted and ended up with 2.5 gram button. Thanks!
Jim bob Hi Jim, as stated in the video and in the first two parts of recovery and then the refining video, all of this comes from 1 lb of trimmed fingers, just the fingers. I am working on a video for recovery from the IC chips that should be out this summer. Thanks for watching!
luis alberto garcia consuegra moreno HI there, Thanks for watching! I am very sorry but I do not quite understand what you are asking. Are you asking where the gold comes from or what the white powder I am adding to the crucible is? Thanks!
Hi moose, I have a couple of questions when you have all the foils such as you do in a large vial and your brain is telling melt it ..melt it, how do you go about that with out your torch accidently sneezing on it..? And second I cured my cruisible and tried to melt what I thought I would get a beebee ...(wrong) lol but there is a tiny tiny piece can I just leave in there till my next melt and will it group up? Please pardon me for my question I am one month old on this and need all the help I can get as I have ruined already, I find your videos be really helpful to me thank you so much for your videos god bless. Martin, Tucson Az
Hi and thanks for watching! Well, for your first question, I would try to convince my rain to not try and melt it, but if you must... rinse the foils well in a filter, roll them up in the filter paper and squeeze out as much water as you can and put that in your melting dish with some borax on top. let the flame approach real slow and you should be fine. Also helps to do that over a corning ware casserole dish just in case. As for the dot stuck in borax glass, yes, you can leave it there until the next batch. Its not going anywhere and when you heat it up again the borax will liquefy and free it up to join its brethren gold being melted.
The glazing really is important. I did not glaze my crucible enough and now I have a mess to scrape out that is really stuck. Remelting doesn't work eather as the heat just seems to disperce.
halo mouse,terima kasih atas semua videonya,! saya baru mencoba membuat emas ini dari setiap komputer,dan kima yg saya pakai hcl dan hydrogen peroxide,setelah saya campurkan keduanya kenapa dia mengeluarkan asap tebal berwarna hijau dan mengeluarkan isi kimia dari toples plastic,tolong informasinya,thank you.
Thanks for this, just bought one of those little silica cups off amazon for $4 shipped. I have some alluvial gold I am going to melt, should I be afraid of blowing it out of the cupel? Looks easy and you used powder.... I have the same two torches you show.
Many will say you will lose some gold dust. I would think that as long as you keep your sweeps for further recovery you would be fine but don't quote me on that
Hi moose Just cleaned up after using the bubble system. (Got quite a haul to ;) ) Just wanted to know what is the best thing to do with the acid water mix (blue water) when I'm finished.
Hi there, if you used HCL and an air bubbler, you can save it and use it next time. Keep reusing it until it stops working then put some stainless steel in there to cement the copper out of the solution and use it some more! It can be used quite a bit! When completely done being usefull, you can evaporate all the fuilds out so you are just left with like metal salts and bring to a waste disposal facility or attempt to neutralize it and dispose safely.
Thanks for all your sharing. I'm a big moose scraper fan. I ride my three wheeled Schwinn and since your vids, have started to scrap again. Got about ten pounds of bare bright cu to fund more tools. I will never throw out a mid grade board again. Thanks , many times over. my 60 birthday coming up and I'm living off my VA pension because my body's wasted. do you have video on your channel that speaks to where to find the most mid grade boards. would flip that gold so fast and buy silver coins that's my gift to you moose. sorry so long
Thanks for watching! And Happy Pre Birthday! I do not have a video out about where to find mid grade boards, but I can tell you that you will find them in DVD players, LCD tv's, computers, satellite receivers, and video game consoles. Its hard to always know what will be inside something though. Best of luck to you!
Love your videos, have you tried doing the same process for the gold trimmed boards? some of them have large corners that look gold plated to me and i bet you could get monster size foils if you cut the corners of the board and processed them like fingers.
Yup, you can, however those are more from newer electronics and the gold is mostly flash plated on there so the foil is so thin it breaks apart in the ap. But its still gold!
You can use the same one, not a need to reglaze before each use. I suggest one for gold and one for silver as the copper in sterling tends to coat the crucibles.
+Josh M That is entirely up to you if it is worth it. I do the gold recovery part because I enjoy it, not to make money. And if you are eBay savvy, you certainly can make money off the rest of the computer parts. SO yes, I feel it is very much worth it.
2.5 g = $96.79 total gold value as of today not bad for a pound of scrap...just have to subtract the cost of supplies thanks Moose!...by the way what would your supply cost be?
Well, supply cost is reall yhard to say. I think I spent about $75 for everything. The HCL, bleach, SMB, MAPP, crucible, tongs, borax, beakers, and the little odds and ends. A lot of the stuff I get while scrapping for free. Most of the items I can use indefinitely, the only items that will need to be replenished are the chemicals and even those last a long time. I have had the same $3 box of borax for 3 years, the same $1 bottle of bleach for about that long too ( I think my wife took one at one point for laundry...) and the HCL is about $7 but I really get a lot of use out of one gallon. SO I guess you could say that the equipment would cost about 2 grams of gold and then the next several ounces are processed free.
Hey Moose, why did you not put borax on the gold powder before melting the gold powder? I hear the borax keeps you from blowing gold powder everywhere when melting? Anyway, always enjoy your videos :)
Hey Tibor, I did not use Borax because when this video was made I was still learning alot. I do use borax now. At this time I was using the slow approach method which can work ok but you are right, a tiny amount of gold can be lost to blow out. Thanks!
Sir @@moosescrapper5928. I seen people use banking powder. Would you use it if you don't have the money to get the things you need and use the things you have at home?
This is beyond awesome! I do have a question though. When you are done smelting down the gold and you finally have that little nugget of awesomeness is there anywhere specific that will take your word that it is all gold and was smelted down properly? Or could you just say 'this is pure gold'; do the acid test, and it's good to go? I guess what I'm asking is is there any concerns when selling it at market value to anyone?
+starpointstudios Not really any concerns. places that buy gold would never take anyone's word on anything. Even if it was in a pretty little perfectly shaped ingot with 24K stamped on it. They all test it due to so many forgeries.
Once the Gold is in a liquid state, I throw a few pinches of borax in there. It will remove the surface impurities from the Gold. The end result is quite beautiful.
Can I use a butane to melt the gold? Or it has less... strong/temperature during burning? It is really hard to get mapp gas or clear propane in Poland :/ Btw, great wideo :)
*I'm new to the melting game and I appreciate a good tip or two.* _Awesome Video_ 👏
Moose, many thanks here bro, I am a disabled vet from Desert Storm, I have one leg and spend most of my day in my wheelchair just killing time, I am thankful that you made these videos, I will try them and hopefully will be able to supplement my income to help support me,wife,three kids and a dog....thanks again bro !!!! please keep making more.
+Jeff Gregorek Will do! And I cant thank you enough for your service!! Make sure you check out my DIY Daddy channel, I am releasing a series on ebay selling that should help you make some more money as well!
Thank you moose let me know if u can do anything to help promote more videos...but by the looks, BROTHER YOUR RUNNING STRONG! 💪
Moose I just bought a bernzomatic torch with the blue propane cannisters, would that be good enough? and what exactly is map gas?
Thanks for sharing your basics of smelting. Very good video. I have done a lot of melts of various metals using a propane foundry and a small Eletric foundry. Really enjoyed your melt. Thanks for sharing. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Thank you, I was able to watch all 3 steps in order, you make it look less scary lol ,than other videos I've seen, I'm very new to e waste scraping, BTW I love all your videos
Good job Moose!! NOE U got me thinking about that pile of old PC's and all the ones I see sitting by the road.ALL THE TIME.
I live in Jupiter Florida.The folks around here have WAY MORE MONEY than common sense.
Bet I could collect 50-60 used PC's a month. Some need minor repairs,(which I would fix and sell as good used) and many are older and would just go on the pile... I have everything U have mentioned an all 3 vids.All I need it the Precipitation agent.
I have saved all vids,subscribed to your channel as well.
Nothin' left to do now but, acquire precip. agent and START MAKIN' GOLD BABY!!!
Thank you Mr.Moose for allowing us to see your fine method of gold recovery..
Someone once told me "it's useless to mine gold in Florida"...We know better tho,huh? :-)
+Fishkiller 41 lol sounds like you have a sweet little area to gold mine!
Oh yeah Moose.PRIME paydirt and "concentrates" around here buddy.
Thanks again for the videos..
Watched your videos and I conclude your dedication is admirable.
What is the name of that torch, please share with me the link to buy it ❤️
Hi mosse again
I saw many viedos at youtube about recovery gold and really all was not good exept yours. good work Man
thanks alot
Can I use stainless steel bowl to smelt the powder gold dust
You are awesome Moose! I've learned so much from you! Thank you for all you do!!
I mixed my borax in with my gold powder and a lot of it . Is that where my slag is from ....I have a lot of slag and no gold button ....my gold stuck to the walls of the potato I use for a crucible. What did I do wrong
Hello , what was the name of white powder that you use in the end of this process ??
I have a half pint of what I believed and still have hope is gold powder. I was trying to melt in a cast iron skillet with a propane torch. Is that even possible cause I'm not getting any results. It's still powder.
I wonder if you could do a video on how to remove solder from pins before processing. Tell what chemicals needed and where to get them. Thanks
What I did was is hot sand clear the cellphone boards then I soaked the boards in nitric acid now I am stuck with dark mud substance from the board mixed in with gold flakes not being able to separate the mud that came of the boards I mixed in the bleach in to dissolve mud and it has not dissolved yet.
ie did not clear the cellphone boards with liee to remove green solder.
Hey Moose what would you do next if you was me?
Thanks!!
Ive got about the same amount of sediment and have worked so hard to get it. Gonna hurt to see the sediment shrink up. Ive weighed it at 5 grams but im guessing after i melt it it'll be less
How long did it take u to melt it from starting to end. I know u stop the video more times to and cut it ot make the video. But what was the melting time ?
Watching mud turn to gold never ceases to please me!
What’s the item called you have the crucible sat on have you got a link
ok .. ? i have over 1.5 lbs of gold fingers... that were pulled out of old boards....there solid fingers not like the flake on the green boards .... cant i just smelt them all down into one solid chunk....? or smelt it all together and refine it down to it purest form ? most of it doesnt have any soder on it however 4oz's of it does... cant that be melted outta the gold by smelting it out ?
that would be a big mistake. The result would be far less than 25% gold. There is still layers of other metals under the gold and once its melted and alloyed together, you will need much stronger acids to purify it.
Moose Scrapper what would you advise me to use ? or do ? I have a bunch more of these gold pins ... I'd like to do it right.. and well you seem to know your stuff and iv been following you for awhile now.. thanks for your reply and anything you can tell me to help me I'd be great full. .
What's the point of the borax? I thought borax was used in iron and steel smelting to inhibit oxidation but gold doesn't oxidize. Is the borax used to keep the gold from sticking to the crucible?
ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner! Yup, the melted borax makes a nice glassy finish that allows the gold to all melt and pool together. make sit a lot easier to pour as well.
If you don't glaze a melting dish first, your metal will stick like hell and you'll have losses.
***** would a graphite cruicible make a differnce?
so witch would have more 1 lbs of gold fingers or one lbs of ide pins i have tons of ide pins and also should i do small batches or would it be fine to do all at once. thanks also how are you able to keep your hands that close to 1010 celisus wouldn't that be like hold your hand over a bunsent burner
Luke Ketelhut Honestly I am not sure, there are a lot of variables. My gut says the gold fingers because the base material green board is far lighter than brass the base material under the gold in ide pins however, I would say there is much more surface area of gold in one pound of ide pins. As for the pins, you can do all at once if you like, for one pound you would need at least a half gallon of hcl. as for the heat, it is only that hot at the focal point of the flame.
ok thanks
Is the process the same if my gold is flour and is 65% fine glass sand?? Can I just break off the slag when I pour? I own a large kiln
Moose scrapper, I have 2 jars of gold dust for books, am I able to melt this down? Or is this gold dust too fine to melt?
Miner Kyle If its gold then yu should be able to melt it down. You will want to make sure you have a layer of borax on top and approach it really slowly to not blow away the gold.
I'm new to gold recovery and I'm just wondering why the fingers have to go through the acid wash before smelting. Couldn't you simply remove the gold bearing material from the pc boards, ink cartridges, phones, etc. and smelt them?
no, the gold layer is so incredibly thin that what you would be smelting would likely me 90% or more copper, nickel, etc. The acids remove those metals. Make sure you read CM Hokes book before trying any of this stuff. It should answer all the questions you can come up with
Thanks, Moose
Hey there !! Could you please write down the list of the material used to melt the gold with
Respected sir what is the name of that white powder
Could you do a video on how to scrap a refrigerator?
I could, but it would have to wait until spring. My days of scrapping outside are done for the season. Getting hit with a noreaster at this very moment.
Ohhh that's fine can't wait for it.
Hi Moose, is there an easy way to recover the copper that's diluted in the muriatic acid
The copper??? how much copper is in there?
ya stainless steel spoon just throw it in and wait a day or so and scrape the copper off the spoon and soak again
hey moose how about making a video on how to get the borax out after a gold melt .
Whats the point in using borax apart from getting the glassy look?
prevents gold from sticking to the porous surface of the crucible, also helps draw out impurities.
I have a small butane stove, is it possible to glazed my melting dish by placing it on the stove and then putting the borax inside after it has become hot? Or does the borax need the direct flame? Can I preheat my graphite ingot and graphite crucible this way also?
+Eric Alderson I have never tried it, typically, the crucible needs to be glowing hot.
I have a question i really need an answer to. why cant i melt silver in a graphite crucible using map gas? works just fine in one like you're using here but just wont melt completely in graphite. i buy silver along with scrapping and starting to get more into scrapping but ill buy generic and melt into hand poured. just like the feel of it better
I have no idea, I do not recall anyone saying that I couldn't melt silver in a graphite crucible....
Hello Moose, can you help me with this:
I have several crucibles with a lot of tiny particules mixed with borax. When I melt some gold in it always stay gold in the crucible. Any suggestion please on how can I recover all the gold in it?
Thank you
Hello my friend what is in your hand for melting flame ?
Pls tell me the name of the powder. Thanks you are good teacher
how do u clean/ reuse the crucible so u dont contaminate the next run
I have a crucible for gold and one for silver. Not sure how one would clean them.
Moose Scrapper i saw a guy used a dremel and cleaned it up ok
what's is small cylinder burner name
Excuse me, my friend, where can I buy borax powder?
My gold dust is not melting in my crucible I am using furnace maximum temperature 1200 degrees I am not using borax
What is the name of white powder you put? Hoping for reply....
he said ... & he saud where yu can easily get it
listen to the video again
Question. So is it better to go through the process of collecting gold fingers and refining, or selling the cartridges whole to a recycle company?
+Matt Lytle wait, what? sounds like two different things....are you talking about ink cartridges? or Ram sticks? Ram does not come in cartridges, and ink does not have fingers.... Either way you will likely make more money selling the inks to recyclers, and prices are over inflated on ebay for gold material right now so its a sellers market. You will also make more money selling the ram in ebay as a whole as well.
+Moose Scrapper thank you for replying! Keep up the good work.
What is the name of your gas capsule??
ماهوا الماء الذيتصبه الذي يفصل اتراب عن الذهب
بلغا العربيه
i have different type of jewelry 10 ,12, 14 k and gold plated jewelry as well , how can i make those into pure gold
I have only 18% muriatic acid will it smelt the copper and others metal?
you dont want to use it to smelt it....but to take the gold off of the plastics and other metals....
When you learn to wash the powder before melting, you'll get to enjoy seeing a nice little pipe form in the middle as it cools, meaning you'll have a much higher purity.
how do you wash the powder?
wolfbite941 HCL and then water
Sorry just saw where you responded. Boil in HCl once, then distilled water 3 times, then household ammonia once, then water 3 more times. Seems like a lot of work, but getting 3 9's is worth it.
can you let me know if an antique jar of 24k gold flake paint that has dried to almost a solid, approx 20 grams weight, can it be reclaimed?
Im sure it could be. Not sure how much gold is actually in there though.
That blue color in your crucible (once you have your button) tells me you have quite a bit of lead or copper in that gold. Have you ever considered using Aqua Regia to actually refine the gold first? Simply mix up some Aqua Regia, mix in your gold and stir until disolved (this makes Chloroauric Acid), then once the Aqua Regia is saturated (can't add any more gold into solution), now filter through a buchner funnel through a coffee filter (to catch contaminants, silica, etc.), then precipitate out the gold from the Chloroauric Acid by slowly adding Sodium Metabisulfite. Filter again (to remove your gold dust from the bottom of the beaker), then use THIS powder to make your button. Your end product is almost 4-9's pure. Your lead, copper, etc. will be thrown away during the filtering process.
As he said, he is not a professional just a hobbyist. Getting to 22K or higher is great for most hobbyists and you could refine repeatedly to get slightly more pure each time just using the process HE used. I am still grateful for his time to put the video together. Most people want methods which are cheaper than Nitric and HCl (Aqua Regia) so this Poor Man's AR is the perfect trick for us.
Hey don’t you need to add urea before adding sodium metabisulfate?
I've done the same thing you did, but the borax has formed into lamps instead a layer of glassy surface, what happened?! Why?
mich65ek2 did you heat up your crucible before adding the borax?
yes when glazing, but not when smelting
Moose Scrapper I seem to be unable to liquefy my gold
hey moose i dont know if you know this but a lot of the brass fittings you find in plumbing systems aren't exactly brass if you look at the color of the fitting and a yellow pipe you will find that the fitting is just a little bit darker and the reason for that being is that the fitting is usually known as composition. it pays a lil bit more then regular heavy brass
Hey moose great video, I was trying to mange a video of what I found scraping today but it seemed ridiculous. Long story short, if you ever find a IBM Server then grab it. It's packed full of gold!! 6 hard drives, one fiber cpu, one pcia card, gold plated pins, but here is the kicker 9 ram boards with gold plated fingers!! It blew my mind
Caleb Hudson sweet!
How many uses do you get out of that melting cup? Is it better to do it this way or in a large furnace?
What type of stump out is required
Bonide, the kind that has the ingredient sodium pyrosulfite. Make sure to dissolve it in a little water first.
Moose Scrapper ..i fould it in a different stump remover. ..and it has potassium nitrate...
Hey Moose I got my hands on some silver and gold plated copper fittings.I deplatted them in salt water and electricity .So now im left with a slurry ,I would like too know how to separate the gold and silver . Any sugestions would be helpfull Thanks
great video i got as far as recovering gold foils...i would like to take this 1 step further and make gold rings or other jewlery.....i heated up intel processors and let the pins drop into hcl in a beaker ....heated o a hot plate and revered foils....for jewley i thin melting down the foils and using the foil as a base for jewelery...so what if a ring has a little copper.
Hello . How is the liquidation of the gold bug
Sir I have gold in powder form in sand how can I recover it
Thnks sir for the information regarding to smelt gold
Just a question; could you use propane to melt instead of map gas or butane...which would be best?
Gold fills of brass copper. I'm unsure if 24k leaves or flakes are actual gold
+Salvador Ochoa Yup, 24 leaf and flake is actual gold....just a very very very small amount.
Borax is same as boron where to buy borax
What the white-thing powder you but
I want to have this result but have trouble processing the procedure, and would like if you showed again like I said I believe mixed alloy and flake. But silver is nice I think sterling silver is similar to purified silver. You should explain this really cool fascinating ideas of yours.
With gold prices ab $35/g. Is your time worth the pay? How many hrs did this take from start to finish?
+CoyoteFur
Gold is the best investment one can make.Especially when U "MAKE IT" yourself.
No law says U have to sell it as soon as U make it.
GOLD WILL GO BACK UP and a lot farther than it has in the past.
Moose prob. makes more $ from gold,than U do from Yote skins...lol
+Fishkiller 41 my degrees makes the $$$
+Fishkiller 41 Can't be taxed on gold sale also.
Moose, how much did it weigh before you melted? after you said the weight was 2.5 grams out of a pound of fingers.
2.5 grams. I took 1 pound of trimmed fingers and removed the gold foils from them. Then refined them. I was left with 2.5 grams of gold powder. I smelted and ended up with 2.5 gram button. Thanks!
How do that?
You got that gold from 1 pound of fingers is that just 1 pound of fingers or a pound of ram boards if you know what I mean
Jim bob Hi Jim, as stated in the video and in the first two parts of recovery and then the refining video, all of this comes from 1 lb of trimmed fingers, just the fingers. I am working on a video for recovery from the IC chips that should be out this summer. Thanks for watching!
Cheers moose can you remember how many boards you had to collect to get a lb of fingers would really help me
Don't worry mate I've watched your other videos and I think you said you used 100 boards cheers mate
Add a quarter teaspoon of salt petre ( potassium nitrate) and it will go so much easier, very difficult to do it without
how many memory cards would you need for a pound of foiils
It's not a pound of foils, it's a pound of memory cards.
Component which converts gold into what is??
luis alberto garcia consuegra moreno HI there, Thanks for watching! I am very sorry but I do not quite understand what you are asking. Are you asking where the gold comes from or what the white powder I am adding to the crucible is? Thanks!
I askin in the powder
luis alberto garcia consuegra moreno BORAX. It is used for laundry as well
Instead of using borax (sodium borate), can I use sodium carbonate as a flux?
no, two completely different chemicals.
Sir we found some gold pieces but these are so hard how we make soft for jewellery purpose
Great video... was this 2.5 grams of gold from one pound of cut fingers or from the entire sticks of RAM of a weight of one pound?
Craig Todd Thanks for watching! From just the trimmed fingers. There is more gold on the rest of the stick and in the IC's
Hi moose, I have a couple of questions when you have all the foils such as you do in a large vial and your brain is telling melt it ..melt it, how do you go about that with out your torch accidently sneezing on it..? And second I cured my cruisible and tried to melt what I thought I would get a beebee ...(wrong) lol but there is a tiny tiny piece can I just leave in there till my next melt and will it group up? Please pardon me for my question I am one month old on this and need all the help I can get as I have ruined already, I find your videos be really helpful to me thank you so much for your videos god bless. Martin, Tucson Az
Hi and thanks for watching! Well, for your first question, I would try to convince my rain to not try and melt it, but if you must... rinse the foils well in a filter, roll them up in the filter paper and squeeze out as much water as you can and put that in your melting dish with some borax on top. let the flame approach real slow and you should be fine. Also helps to do that over a corning ware casserole dish just in case. As for the dot stuck in borax glass, yes, you can leave it there until the next batch. Its not going anywhere and when you heat it up again the borax will liquefy and free it up to join its brethren gold being melted.
The glazing really is important. I did not glaze my crucible enough and now I have a mess to scrape out that is really stuck. Remelting doesn't work eather as the heat just seems to disperce.
Go through the acid steps again with it
halo mouse,terima kasih atas semua videonya,! saya baru mencoba membuat emas ini dari setiap komputer,dan kima yg saya pakai hcl dan hydrogen peroxide,setelah saya campurkan keduanya kenapa dia mengeluarkan asap tebal berwarna hijau dan mengeluarkan isi kimia dari toples plastic,tolong informasinya,thank you.
Thanks for this, just bought one of those little silica cups off amazon for $4 shipped. I have some alluvial gold I am going to melt, should I be afraid of blowing it out of the cupel? Looks easy and you used powder.... I have the same two torches you show.
Many will say you will lose some gold dust. I would think that as long as you keep your sweeps for further recovery you would be fine but don't quote me on that
It all went well I kept the flame far away until it fused, thanks again!
Hi moose
Just cleaned up after using the bubble system. (Got quite a haul to ;) )
Just wanted to know what is the best thing to do with the acid water mix (blue water) when I'm finished.
Hi there, if you used HCL and an air bubbler, you can save it and use it next time. Keep reusing it until it stops working then put some stainless steel in there to cement the copper out of the solution and use it some more! It can be used quite a bit! When completely done being usefull, you can evaporate all the fuilds out so you are just left with like metal salts and bring to a waste disposal facility or attempt to neutralize it and dispose safely.
What the mean of flux .and Where I find it?
It's just normal borax. U can find it at most grocery store
I wanna ask u my friend does the gold powder melt into the acid
hi
how are you my friend i want ask you what can i doing in solution before felter fin gold
Thanks for all your sharing. I'm a big moose scraper fan. I ride my three wheeled Schwinn and since your vids, have started to scrap again. Got about ten pounds of bare bright cu to fund more tools. I will never throw out a mid grade board again. Thanks , many times over. my 60 birthday coming up and I'm living off my VA pension because my body's wasted. do you have video on your channel that speaks to where to find the most mid grade boards. would flip that gold so fast and buy silver coins that's my gift to you moose. sorry so long
Thanks for watching! And Happy Pre Birthday! I do not have a video out about where to find mid grade boards, but I can tell you that you will find them in DVD players, LCD tv's, computers, satellite receivers, and video game consoles. Its hard to always know what will be inside something though. Best of luck to you!
+Norman Moody silver coins YES fu*k the banks
Love your videos, have you tried doing the same process for the gold trimmed boards? some of them have large corners that look gold plated to me and i bet you could get monster size foils if you cut the corners of the board and processed them like fingers.
Yup, you can, however those are more from newer electronics and the gold is mostly flash plated on there so the foil is so thin it breaks apart in the ap. But its still gold!
Have you ever tried to melt gold powder with sunlight using a magnifying glass?
nope
Hi how are you ,,I have a stone have a marker
Can I reuse the same crucible? And does it need to be glazed each time before use?
You can use the same one, not a need to reglaze before each use. I suggest one for gold and one for silver as the copper in sterling tends to coat the crucibles.
just curious, how often are you collecting salvage for computers to be able to make this much gold? Is it worth the time to hunt online for freebies?
+Josh M That is entirely up to you if it is worth it. I do the gold recovery part because I enjoy it, not to make money. And if you are eBay savvy, you certainly can make money off the rest of the computer parts. SO yes, I feel it is very much worth it.
2.5 g = $96.79 total gold value as of today not bad for a pound of scrap...just have to subtract the cost of supplies thanks Moose!...by the way what would your supply cost be?
Well, supply cost is reall yhard to say. I think I spent about $75 for everything. The HCL, bleach, SMB, MAPP, crucible, tongs, borax, beakers, and the little odds and ends. A lot of the stuff I get while scrapping for free. Most of the items I can use indefinitely, the only items that will need to be replenished are the chemicals and even those last a long time. I have had the same $3 box of borax for 3 years, the same $1 bottle of bleach for about that long too ( I think my wife took one at one point for laundry...) and the HCL is about $7 but I really get a lot of use out of one gallon. SO I guess you could say that the equipment would cost about 2 grams of gold and then the next several ounces are processed free.
Moose Scrapper
Thanks guess I'll be on the look out for beakers or glass coffee pitchers in my scrap runs.
How many hours total to get the ~ 100 bucks worth of gold? Cu looks even brighter after watching your videos. Persistence pays.... but how much?
Good job at capturing your first attempt!
How many more have you done since this?
epohnopulse =)....... a few......
where can get that white thing you use.. ;)
john hansen amazon silica melting crucible.
thanks
Just look up MELT TRAY on ebay or amazon or just on google, and you will come up with some ideas
how did u get the gold powder?
+Nate Chaps From the three prior videos, Making an Air Bubbler, Gold recovery with an Air Bubbler, and Refining Gold
+Nate Chaps
Their are 2 videos BEFORE this one, that spell it all out.
Hey Moose, why did you not put borax on the gold powder before melting the gold powder? I hear the borax keeps you from blowing gold powder everywhere when melting? Anyway, always enjoy your videos :)
Hey Tibor, I did not use Borax because when this video was made I was still learning alot. I do use borax now. At this time I was using the slow approach method which can work ok but you are right, a tiny amount of gold can be lost to blow out. Thanks!
Sir @@moosescrapper5928. I seen people use banking powder. Would you use it if you don't have the money to get the things you need and use the things you have at home?
This is beyond awesome! I do have a question though. When you are done smelting down the gold and you finally have that little nugget of awesomeness is there anywhere specific that will take your word that it is all gold and was smelted down properly? Or could you just say 'this is pure gold'; do the acid test, and it's good to go? I guess what I'm asking is is there any concerns when selling it at market value to anyone?
+starpointstudios Not really any concerns. places that buy gold would never take anyone's word on anything. Even if it was in a pretty little perfectly shaped ingot with 24K stamped on it. They all test it due to so many forgeries.
So how much did you get for it??
+Sub Par nothing, didn't sell it
Do you have to glaze it each time, or only an initial dose to season the crucible?
since its common practice to add a little borax to what you are melting each time there is no need to reglaze
Okay, thanks!
Once the Gold is in a liquid state, I throw a few pinches of borax in there. It will remove the surface impurities from the Gold. The end result is quite beautiful.
Can I use a butane to melt the gold? Or it has less... strong/temperature during burning? It is really hard to get mapp gas or clear propane in Poland :/
Btw, great wideo :)
I have seen some small butane torches melt small amounts of gold. Must get to about 1859F