Well done, Jason! In addition to Portland cement (calcium oxide) you could use ground glass or calcium phosphate (available as a fertilizer or bone meal) or crushed magnesite. The problem with using glass is that gold is soluble in molten glass just like lead oxide is. If you were to use bone meal fertilizer, you would first have to burn off all the left over organics like fat which smells bad and smokes a lot. If you used copper as the collector metal while processing the original gold button, you may find a lot of copper remains distributed throughout the final gold button (to be determined with a quick x-ray analyzer). Gold and copper form a pretty strong marriage if inadequate amounts of flux are used. I wish more video authors discussed gold ore processing options like you have done so people wouldn't expose themselves to mercury, vaporized lead, cyanide, nitric acid, and a bunch of related compounds that form during the processing. Again, I must say: "Well done, Jason!"
@@finiszealot5539 I defer to Jason concerning which flux mixture to use. He has done a wonderful series on his experiments with a variety of flux mixtures.
great vi Jason ....would use magnesite or Bone ash for the cupel.....better absorption . Litharge might be easier to use as well. Beautiful chunks of Shiney ...... keep up the great work my friend.
I agree with Allen. I learned to pan from Jeff's videos and watching Jason with his turn key pcb system video years ago got me switched from metal recycling to e waste. I really appreciate the knowledge that you have shared as well as your time it takes to make these videos.
Looks like the Portland cement is the way to go , i bought bone ash , and made my own cupels , but it's too expensive , so that's a great alternative , although i have seen it used before ,but your demo has convinced me , thanks , great demo , cheers .
Qouted = Portland cement is the most common type of cement in general use around the world as a basic ingredient of concrete, mortar, stucco, and non-specialty grout. It was developed from other types of hydraulic lime in England in the late 19th century by Joseph Aspdin, and usually originates from limestone
Thanks so much. Had to dig threw 2 years worth of videos till someone explained what portland cement is. I've never heard of it until I watched this channel. Thank you.
@@mbmmllc hello, I appreciate you very much for sharing your knowledge, thank you. I have 2 questions, Where do I buy a piece of roofers lead? Can any of the other precious metals absorbed by Portland cement or roofers lead be recovered without using acids or dangerous chemicals?
there are 5 types of Portland cement in my country and I do not know which type is suitable for gold couplling. Please answer my questions. 1-2-3-4-5 ??? Which type do you think I should use ???
What would happen if you only used 50gm of lead? Thanks for sharing this video. Interesting experiment. Wishing you and your team another great week. Cheers,
Do you know how much lead to use for the different carets or does it not matter? It looks like you used about 6x the weight of the gold... is that a good math on it or can it get more apecific?
Hi mate just wanted to ask you if you how a idea how much lead I will need to get the gold out of I think the bar weight is 5 kilo bar of mixed metals from gold pins and so on
Are you sure that much lead is needed?. And are you sure there is no more lead left in the gold?. I make jewelry out of gold and silver. And i've been thinking of a way to purify ten fourteen k gold into some more shiny pure k gold ... Also, are you certain you're just losing base? Metals and not losing any gold?
Great video Jason! I was hoping I could ask a rookie question if that's ok?! I'm having a hard time getting all the micro fine gold I'm finding and I was wondering if the blast furnace stage - where you create the Lye/Borax/Silica flux will help me remove all the fine sands. Does this just turn to glass in the slag? This will save me hours of panning gold dust haha! Thanks for all the amazing content man - you're teaching me to mine!! :)
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My question. At which point do yiu end the process. I was unclear on at the point when this is completely liquefied, as it cools, the gold and the impurities are seperated? And finally, is there a specific formula on how much of the pre-cut metal you need for x amount of Gold? You cut about 140 grams, how did you arrive at that figure?
Great video and exactly what I need. Is a stainless steel bowl required or can other types of bowls be used? The final piece of gold is what “k” weight? Thanks so much.
Great technical skills! The question I have is in terms of gasses that may be coming off the process into the air. Is there any danger to you from anything that is going into the air from the melting process?
When lead is melted, fine, poisonous particles are formed, that can travel long distances and remain in the environment for a very long time; Lead vapour may easily be inhaled, and transported through the bloodstream to the brain and other organs; Lead particles can settle on the soil, clothing, skin and hair, toys
fascinating experiment. Maybe if you used a known karat of gold such as 18k the weight before and after may show how close you get to fine gold without spectral analysis. Twp questions I have. What is the dish made of that you put the portland cement in and what is your ratio of gold to lead .
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How much lead did you use when u were refining the 15 gram ingot? Also i have another question. How come the lead and gold and not melting and mixing together? 🧐🧐 Can anyone explain?
So it doesn't matter the furnace source as long as u have the right cupel material? So u can use bone ash cupels in a normal smelting furnace? Or do u need to have a certain furnace heat source?
i like everything the way you did this! very instructive video! I'm just wondering what is the purity of gold in the end as a percentage? thanks in advance and keep up the videos!
would it would be possible to use this process in separating gold from let's say old cell phones and electronic boards that have visibly good quality gold. Assuming everything is cut up into very small pieces. Could this process be used?
Hey man Out of curiosity What equipment do you use I'm asking because I'm thinking very strongly about doing what you're doing And the reason why because I can get some pretty good deals on some go bars That has mixed metal in thim
I'm not an expert but the lead can be leached from cupel waste effectively with acetic acid. There are some papers about this online but I've not found any definitive information on the exact process. I think theres a number of ways it could be done.
I stumbled on to this and it's cool. My question is how long did it take to get the lead absorbed into the Cupel? I saw one video where the guy used some kind of round dish to cupel while you used simple portland cement. Also, what is your running cost to refine the gold using this method? Lead is cheap, but what about the other things such as the burning and the burning system?
Hi there!!! I need help. I want to refine gold out of 500 gramms of copper, Bronze, silver and steel. Can I refine it by melting it down and pouring it inside of this pyramidical mold?
There must've been some gold in that lead, because the finished product is bigger than what you started with. My Dad said to use mercury to gather the gold, and then the mercury needs processed to get out the gold from it. Can't quite recall the process how he said to do that..long time ago..
Can u give me a detailed way of removing all metals from ic chips ,from incineration state to final gold in hand ,I'm kinda new at this want to learn I,have everything needed to do chem way or melting or cupellation method ,I am doing the electronics gold recovery
I have 13 oz of gold filled pocket watches that I would like refined, would this process work for that? 1/20 gold 19/20 copper and other base metals ? Thanks Brian in Highlands Ranch Colorado!
Well done, Jason! In addition to Portland cement (calcium oxide) you could use ground glass or calcium phosphate (available as a fertilizer or bone meal) or crushed magnesite. The problem with using glass is that gold is soluble in molten glass just like lead oxide is. If you were to use bone meal fertilizer, you would first have to burn off all the left over organics like fat which smells bad and smokes a lot. If you used copper as the collector metal while processing the original gold button, you may find a lot of copper remains distributed throughout the final gold button (to be determined with a quick x-ray analyzer). Gold and copper form a pretty strong marriage if inadequate amounts of flux are used. I wish more video authors discussed gold ore processing options like you have done so people wouldn't expose themselves to mercury, vaporized lead, cyanide, nitric acid, and a bunch of related compounds that form during the processing. Again, I must say: "Well done, Jason!"
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So when doing it this way do you need flux ? And if so is it borax and baking soda ?
@@finiszealot5539 I defer to Jason concerning which flux mixture to use. He has done a wonderful series on his experiments with a variety of flux mixtures.
So just use cement barrier gold in then lead on top, melt to refine it. This video has been helpful, Thank You!
This is the most expert in action.
great vi Jason ....would use magnesite or Bone ash for the cupel.....better absorption . Litharge might be easier to use as well. Beautiful chunks of Shiney ...... keep up the great work my friend.
Hi Jeff. Thanks for the suggestions! We will try and keep the gold coming!!
2 of my favorite RUclips guys. lol
you guys should hook up and do a video. Could help the rateings. would be fun to see too.
I agree with Allen. I learned to pan from Jeff's videos and watching Jason with his turn key pcb system video years ago got me switched from metal recycling to e waste. I really appreciate the knowledge that you have shared as well as your time it takes to make these videos.
Is it really that easy?
some XRF scans of these buttons before and after would be really informative.
Agreed, Have you seen the most recent video? It shows the results of the button afterwards
Blarg where is it
But it makes it easily obtainable with Portland no ordering or special stuff which is so nice.
Looks like the Portland cement is the way to go , i bought bone ash , and made my own cupels , but it's too expensive , so that's a great alternative , although i have seen it used before ,but your demo has convinced me , thanks , great demo , cheers .
Thanks for watching! Make sure to watch out for our next video!
Great video! Question, is there a ratio of gold to lead to do this? Also, how long does it take for the lead to absorb into the concrete powder?
As a person that used chemicals etc to extract and refine..... I’m going to change over to this process. Thanks for sharing and educating me
Qouted = Portland cement is the most common type of cement in general use around the world as a basic ingredient of concrete, mortar, stucco, and non-specialty grout. It was developed from other types of hydraulic lime in England in the late 19th century by Joseph Aspdin, and usually originates from limestone
Thank you for your comment and for watching our videos!
Thanks so much. Had to dig threw 2 years worth of videos till someone explained what portland cement is. I've never heard of it until I watched this channel. Thank you.
Can u use lead sinkers? Or is roofers lead specific
Is the Portland cement sand free?
Scrub that floor when done. And clean the lababo as well.
Your capacity to simplify what others make complex amazes me. That was an awesome demonstration. Thank you.
Thank you so much! 😀
@@mbmmllc hello, I appreciate you very much for sharing your knowledge, thank you.
I have 2 questions,
Where do I buy a piece of roofers lead?
Can any of the other precious metals absorbed by Portland cement or roofers lead be recovered without using acids or dangerous chemicals?
Now is there still silver in that or is that pure gold
I'm just curious
@@JBBURG666 yes
Could you show how to "cement " gold onto copper in a furnace?
I would be so grateful.
P.s. thank you for uploading this video.
this helps a lot...because i cant buy a lot of chemical to remove base metal of the gold...thanks...
Very interesting...
Is there a specific ratio to the Lead and "gold" button prior to refining???
How long does your furnace/kiln have to run to cupel gold/silver?
How long was your first melt before the lead disappeared?
Thanks
there are 5 types of Portland cement in my country and I do not know which type is suitable for gold couplling. Please answer my questions. 1-2-3-4-5 ??? Which type do you think I should use ???
Macgyver gold channel, love your take on refining!
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Do you recover the lead from the cement afterwards? How do you safely dispose of the lead tainted cement?
How long did it take to refine your gold button
Just 1 question how long does it take to do? I’m wondering if I can just use a can torch.
What would happen if you only used 50gm of lead? Thanks for sharing this video. Interesting experiment. Wishing you and your team another great week. Cheers,
You would be left with a lot more base metal in your button
💥💯 Totally enjoyed the show man 👍💥 ! So the lead takes care of the silver to ? Very interesting stuff , Thanks for sharing 😊 ✌️🇺🇸
Do you know how much lead to use for the different carets or does it not matter? It looks like you used about 6x the weight of the gold... is that a good math on it or can it get more apecific?
Will it remove copper?
thats just so amazing. i guess thats how most did it in the old days! well, if i ever need to refine gold, you can be sure i'm going to do it this way
Thanks Jason great vid, it would be interesting to know what purity you ended up with?
Hi mate just wanted to ask you if you how a idea how much lead I will need to get the gold out of I think the bar weight is 5 kilo bar of mixed metals from gold pins and so on
Are you sure that much lead is needed?. And are you sure there is no more lead left in the gold?. I make jewelry out of gold and silver. And i've been thinking of a way to purify ten fourteen k gold into some more shiny pure k gold
... Also, are you certain you're just losing base? Metals and not losing any gold?
Great video Jason! I was hoping I could ask a rookie question if that's ok?! I'm having a hard time getting all the micro fine gold I'm finding and I was wondering if the blast furnace stage - where you create the Lye/Borax/Silica flux will help me remove all the fine sands. Does this just turn to glass in the slag? This will save me hours of panning gold dust haha! Thanks for all the amazing content man - you're teaching me to mine!! :)
It is better to invest now. You will never be younger than you are today and there will never be a perfect time to invest. Due to compounding, which Einstein called the 8th wonder of the world, you can get rich slowly from investing if you do it from a young enough age.
Wow! Its incredible,its become shiny and beautiful gold.and also have improve the the grams.
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How long did the whole process take to complete the first bead .
So what’s the ratios to gold weight to how much lead to add
Oh very cool I’m going to try it! 👍
I would have liked to seen you shoot that gold with a spectral analysis gun and see what the readout is
Will do! Coming up on a new video!
I hate working with harmful chemicals thanks so much for this! 😫🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏾
I just watched that gold lead melt! Piece of cake
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Your last comment was all you need to do was "send it off and get paid". Any recommendations on reputable & fair gold buyers? Thank You.
Most important take away from this video.
Portland is a great alternative to bone ash crucibles
Thanks so much. Great tutorial
Great! Thanks!
My question. At which point do yiu end the process. I was unclear on at the point when this is completely liquefied, as it cools, the gold and the impurities are seperated? And finally, is there a specific formula on how much of the pre-cut metal you need for x amount of Gold? You cut about 140 grams, how did you arrive at that figure?
hi Master, what kind of Portland cement do you use for gold cupellation? type 1-2-3-4-5?
Thanks Jason. Very informative... your channel is awesome. Subbed.
Is Portland Cement For General Construction Applicable For That Process
Hello Jason, Can you point a magnifying glass at a cuppelled gold button? It would be cool to see yours under a magnifying glass. Thanks and regards
Very interesting. Thank you!
Neat man ! Now I know I can use portland cement. If I ever need too ? Did you do a scratch test to figure out the purity ?
My local scrap yard has an xrf gun we use for % gold
I’m wondering how long the process took just so I could have adequate fuel for the torch fire.
Great video and exactly what I need. Is a stainless steel bowl required or can other types of bowls be used?
The final piece of gold is what “k” weight?
Thanks so much.
Would this work with a silver/tin alloy? What determines how much lead to use? Thanks!
Well done mate!
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Nice love from india
Truly enjoyed the smelting procedure...
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Will brass be removed as well?
Jason is there a way to extract the lead from the cupel after it is used to make the cement safe to dispose of.
Thanks for the help
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Great technical skills! The question I have is in terms of gasses that may be coming off the process into the air. Is there any danger to you from anything that is going into the air from the melting process?
When lead is melted, fine, poisonous particles are formed, that can travel long distances and remain in the environment for a very long time; Lead vapour may easily be inhaled, and transported through the bloodstream to the brain and other organs; Lead particles can settle on the soil, clothing, skin and hair, toys
Definitely do it outside you do not want to breathe heating lead
the final buttons are a mix of gold and silver? what karat are the buttons?
I just love your videos! Thank you for making them
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And what was your expected purity on those two buttons after processing with lead? Cool video, I just need more information...
I think they are 23k or above. Check out the more recent video for XRF results of the buttons
Wow..! Great video and thanks for sharing...Congrats bro ! Best regard from Indonesia
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Hey cool video! What is the formula your using for how muck lead you use for how much metal to be refined?
And what is your opinion of when you use a graphite crucible compared to a silica?
Great video. Will this process work with raw silver ore and tailings?
fascinating experiment. Maybe if you used a known karat of gold such as 18k the weight before and after may show how close you get to fine gold without spectral analysis.
Twp questions I have. What is the dish made of that you put the portland cement in and what is your ratio of gold to lead .
The dish is a stainless steel bowl from goodwill and the ratio of gold to lead should probably be about 1:1
@@mbmmllc Thank you. I appreciate the info.
Super vidéo. Mais permettez-moi de parler de quelque chose d'important, je vois que beaucoup de jeunes et moins jeunes font des erreurs que je pense qu'ils ne devraient pas faire. Je crois que tout le monde, jeune ou vieux, devrait avoir un plan d'investissement qui fera passer son rendement financier de trois chiffres à six chiffres. L'investissement peut être votre plan de retraite ou votre plan futur, selon ce que vous voulez, mais le plus important est que vous ayez un investissement qui soit rentable.
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Can this same process be used for silver?
How much lead did you use when u were refining the 15 gram ingot? Also i have another question. How come the lead and gold and not melting and mixing together? 🧐🧐 Can anyone explain?
What temperature do I need to keep the gold for it to do it’s thing? How long on average does it take? Great video!
Amazing information, thanks for sharing.
So it doesn't matter the furnace source as long as u have the right cupel material? So u can use bone ash cupels in a normal smelting furnace? Or do u need to have a certain furnace heat source?
Do you know the purity to which you got them with this method?
Is that Porland cement color green? gray? Can you use white Portland cement?
i like everything the way you did this! very instructive video! I'm just wondering what is the purity of gold in the end as a percentage? thanks in advance and keep up the videos!
would it would be possible to use this process in separating gold from let's say old cell phones and electronic boards that have visibly good quality gold. Assuming everything is cut up into very small pieces. Could this process be used?
Do you use that stainless steel mixing bowl in the furnace? TY
How do you allow for o2 to enter this wool structure? + how long does it take? great videos though!!
Hey man Out of curiosity What equipment do you use I'm asking because I'm thinking very strongly about doing what you're doing And the reason why because I can get some pretty good deals on some go bars That has mixed metal in thim
Hello friend
Is lead have silver or silver oxided with lead and in finaly stay gold in this way
is any of the lead getting vaporized? and is their a way to recover the lead?
Yes and yes
@@speedonz do you know how to recover the lead or place i can get the info.
I'm not an expert but the lead can be leached from cupel waste effectively with acetic acid. There are some papers about this online but I've not found any definitive information on the exact process. I think theres a number of ways it could be done.
@@speedonz thanks for your help
About 99% of the lead is absorbed into the cupel. I will post a vid soon about how to recover the lead
Great video, Jason. Thanks for putting it together.
Great! Thanks!
I stumbled on to this and it's cool. My question is how long did it take to get the lead absorbed into the Cupel? I saw one video where the guy used some kind of round dish to cupel while you used simple portland cement.
Also, what is your running cost to refine the gold using this method? Lead is cheap, but what about the other things such as the burning and the burning system?
Same was wondering 🤔🤔😫😫
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Would this work with those impure scrap gold bars you can find on ebay
Yep
@@mbmmllc Nice 🙂
This works with silver too ?
Can you use rocks with gold deposit to retreive gold in your way you just showed us ?
Will copper be removed as well
I followed your instructions but somehow the gold is gone and instead got a red glass substance how can I recover the gold?
Hi there!!! I need help. I want to refine gold out of 500 gramms of copper, Bronze, silver and steel. Can I refine it by melting it down and pouring it inside of this pyramidical mold?
There must've been some gold in that lead, because the finished product is bigger than what you started with.
My Dad said to use mercury to gather the gold, and then the mercury needs processed to get out the gold from it. Can't quite recall the process how he said to do that..long time ago..
What did you use to remove the base metal from the gold and one more question is it dangerous or not? Reply plz
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Can u give me a detailed way of removing all metals from ic chips ,from incineration state to final gold in hand ,I'm kinda new at this want to learn I,have everything needed to do chem way or melting or cupellation method ,I am doing the electronics gold recovery
Can soda carbonate be used same way
Do you wear gas mask or a filtration mask when you heat the lead?
Thank you Jason for giving better ways of removing gold from mixed metals bars mate
I have 13 oz of gold filled pocket watches that I would like refined, would this process work for that? 1/20 gold 19/20 copper and other base metals ? Thanks Brian in Highlands Ranch Colorado!
Awesome! Very informative! Just what I needed to know, thank you very much!
How long do you have the flame on the cupel?
So this has turned to pure 999. 24k gold?
How is this any different to boiling several tons of acids? Seems way, way easier.
Would this same method work on 925 silver?
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