I recently started unfollowing people whose content focuses on mostly on hauls (even if they thrift) or working with brands accumulting more things. I find it more inspiring to follow people who work with what they already have and maybe pick up a new items here or there similiar to how I live my life. I love fashion but I'm not always shopping.
My unpopular fashion take is that just because someone wears super unique and different pieces doesn’t make their fashion better than someone who wears popular brands. It feels like a lot of fashion nowadays is people wearing brand and pieces that are weird or out there to be unique or ironic when in reality I think a lot of those outfits look like shit
I agree with how you say unique and novel arrangements of garments are not necessarily inherently better than more conventional fashion but they still have great value artistically when you look past their aesthetic appeal. Sometimes it doesn't matter if it looks good. Individual, unique, expression is valuable even if it isn't deemed as aesthetically pleasing to the masses
I feel the opposite is truer. People buy some new Yeezys or some FoG essentials and automatically think they're the gods of fashion, way more than the reverse.
@@christophermekala3802 I would argue that beauty is an extremely important part of art and if it (the outfit or an artwork) looks like shit, the lowest common denominator of society could have created it and that is by definition not exceptional in any way.
@@PrincipalSkinner3190 Both are true. People think money buys style but it clearly doesn't, hence you have people spending a ridiculous amount of money on ugly/stupid items just because of the label. The growing thing now is to look like you took a random item from 5 different people's wardrobes while blindfolded and pretending that is fashionable just because it is unique. Both camps are clueless.
Fashion is very overwhelming, to me at least. It's a hobby that is constantly urging you to spend and think of yourself as something to be perceived. "Does this look good? I need new pants but what type? Which fit?". It's like I'm always thinking of myself, the clothes I have, the clothes I could have and everything in between. Whereas my other hobbies such as film and art make me think of everything as a whole, also I'm not pushed to think of my image most of the time. Plus, watching a movie and going to a museum is a relatively cheaper experience than buying a huge haul of designer clothes. I don't know, just looking at fashion shows and discussing them most of the time doesn't feel enough, I feel that to partake in the fashion world you got consume consume consume.
I like how you mentioned that streetwear isn’t the pinnacle of fashion. I’ve been in the streetwear game for 6+ years and I’m slowly coming out and diversifying. Love the content.
I like how you mention 'fashion isn't for everyone' because it's often a conversation I end up having. Of all my friends I'm considered the best dressed and often get asked about it or told 'I couldn't pull that off' and I often say to them for the most part I see fashion as being whatever makes you feel most comfortable & confident, not names & labels. I feel that mindset instantly eases a persons relationship to fashion. After that I then tell them to learn what colours go well together.
My most important awakening in this past year was to realize that fashion simply isn't worth what it gives back to humanity. The wasted ressources, pollution, lives to the immense fashion industry is appalling. Truth is, most of us don't need all of our clothes. We like having many silhouettes and materials to play with and express our creativity. But when this individual creativity takes part in and encourages violence on individuals and the environment, and now that we are conscious of it, can we truly continue to endorse fashion and personal style as the virtue it is for so many people? The rise of body neutrality has made me more conscious of the way that our subjective appreciation for beauty creates discrimination. Only solution, as heartbreaking as it sounds, seems to be to stop caring about how we all appear and present ourselves. That means abandoning the grandiose "personal style" quest.
I think you nailed it with most of these, but I think the issue of sustainability HAS to be addressed from the top because those companies at the top that are mass producing force smaller companies to adopt the norms of production to stay afloat. There's so much overhauling to do, but the reason everybody points the finger at the top is because the top is so in control, that in order to actually overhaul the industry, it has to start with those brands, because the small guys don't have the money or ability to actually make large scale change, or they'll just get stomped out by H&M and Shein simply because they don't have similar profit margins
you wanna know why surf wear companies are disappearing, Because a sweater is 80 bucks at the minimum compared to a shein or h&m sweater, the latter win every time.
companies at the very top don't mass produce at the level that fast fashion does though - that's the whole point of their business model. to create a limited supply to perpetuate exclusivity. companies at the very top also don't churn through clothing cycles every few weeks the way H&M, Zara, Shein etc. do. their business model is unique and is most harmful to the planet.
Damn, when you said "Fashion isn't for everyone" I felt that in my bones! While most of the times it's economics and affordability in other case it's preservation of creativity, I'm a musician that absolutely loves to dress well but can't be bothered with using my creativity in what I wear and use that to create music. I stick to basics most of the times and I like it.
Hey Drew, really good video. I have some thoughts on the point you made about sustainability being inconsequential in fashion. This is a really long one, so sorry about that... I am an architecture grad student, and sustainability is certainly a conversation that happens frequently in the field of architecture. If I could simplify and speak broadly, there are maybe two schools of thought. The first is that architecture must respond to sustainability and the changing world in every way possible, and sustainable design is paramount. The other school of thought would be that it is not architecture's place to become sustainable, and architecture should focus on formal design and the pursuit of beauty (think the equivalent to 'high fashion' of the sorts). Those critical of the sustainable camp might point out the inconsequential nature or the greenwashing that could possibly stifle architecture innovation (ie, it is not architecture's place to champion sustainability, or that architecture should not 'lead' with sustainability, but it should be sought after), while those critical of the other might point out that the state of the world can no longer afford this kind of approach, and that sustainability is the human race's #1 priority. So it becomes really interesting to me that fashion somewhat echoes the sentiment. It makes me think that if it is not fashion or architecture's place (bar a massive shift like you suggested), then who's place is it? Something has to happen, and I don't know where I personally stand on the matter. I also think fashion and architecture (certainly at the 'high fashion' and 'high architecture') level think and act very similarly. All you have to do is look at fashion labels and their association with notable architects (Prada and Herzog and de Meuron, Hermès and Renzo Piano, Virgil Abloh, etc) Curious what you (and others) think. Forgive me if any of this sounded pretentious in how I talk about architecture, I try not to use gatekeepy language if possible.
This comment section is on fire with well articulated ideas and opinions. Great job everyone. I really enjoyed both video and comments. King Drew I think you should really stay in this topic for a while, educating more yourself about it and spreading the information because you really had us talking.
as someone who's heavily involved in sustainability point 3 is absolutely true. vast majority of brands are atrocious and we need a complete overhaul of how the whole supply chain is structured and managed. Good On You is a good starting place to learn more about the sustainable fashion movement
Holy cow, I didn't realise all of these fashion RUclips channels were connected! I'm subbed to you and JQ! I'm also subbed to Harry Has who mentioned you in his most recent RUclips video too!
While I agree with your viewpoint on fashion lacking timelessness, I think it’s important to note that style transcends time. Fashion revolves around embracing the latest trends and staying current, but it truly unfolds when we cultivate a unique style that speaks our own truth. Style is constructed upon a framework of established principles and guidelines which have evolved but endured the test of time. Knowing the rules allows us to break them and create our own personal style, blending different elements together. Certain fashion items will always possess a timeless quality to them like a leather jacket or denim jeans but there will always be variations of these items circulating based on current trends. Same goes with style genres like emo, grunge, punk, vintage, preppy, etc, they will still be around in 100 years. There is a wonderful quote from YSL that speaks volumes to all of this - “fashion fades, style is eternal.” I used to have the same notion that fashion is exhausting and since you are a fashion influencer/RUclipsr, I can see why you feel that way. But it doesn’t have to be. Instead of trying to compete in the rat race that is the fashion industry, take a step back and ponder why am I competing in the first place. Ultimately, clothing is just an accessory that should compliment us, but not define us. Clothing, in itself, is not exhausting. However it is the game we find ourselves entangled in, that is.
Mid Video the thought of how much effort you have to put into scripts for videos like these popped into my mind, so much FACTS being spit in 22 minutes is insane. Thanks for making my late night youtube sessions so much more enjoyable drew
Drew, I always appreciate your outlooks. I am an apparel/soft goods designer and I am always impressed by how accurately you describe fashion economics and understand the chain of command and responsibility. My specific degree was in outdoor gear and sports apparel so my program heavily emphasized sustainable materials, closed loop supply chains, ethical manufacturing, and durability. The hardest part about working in this industry is, when you begin you aren’t totally aware of how absolutely atrocious the machine is. It is painful to want to create beautiful things because that is your passion and knowing you are really contributing nothing good to the world. I know many young people entering this industry live with the same woes but we have to think about what we can do to create positive changes within the system. Because while being incredibly difficult to achieve, pushing for change is far more realistic than everyone giving up and changing careers because people WILL always consume no matter what. I see a lot of comments that “thrifting/secondhand is the only way to consume fashion responsibly.” Which, it is absolutely the best way to reduce your carbon footprint. The majority of my closet is thrifted as well. However, I see comments all the time on social outright telling folks to stop buying and I view it as a form of virtue signaling. The reality is, if people weren’t consuming NEW product at the rate we currently are, especially if we were to never buy new again, then there would be nothing in the thrift stores to buy. Secondhand shopping couldn’t be the craze it is currently if there wasn’t overconsumption steering the wheel. I don’t say this to dishearten anyone from secondhand shopping but maybe to help other’s put a lens on that it isn’t the only solution. As we used to say in school “the only thing that is truly sustainable is never buying anything at all.”
Very interesting and well put together video, however I think you hit the nail on the spot in all of these takes and they are more like harsh truths that people into fashion tend to ignore rather than unpopular opinions
Drew everything you said is why people should not follow trends and learn how to wear what fits their body types and what makes them feel good about themselves individually. You told no lies all straight talk!
First of all - I enjoy your videos a lot and like that you bring your very personal perspective to the table and are willing to discuss it. But I have to disagree hard with the arguments you make for your first point. Yes, financial means play an important role in fashion, especially mainstream fashion. But saying that fashion plain and simple “isn‘t for those“ who cannot afford the current it-pieces season after season is a very elitist thing to say and disregards that many trends develop in subcultures and are often rather inexpensive at the beginning. There was the Nike Monarch wave for example. And the Adidas Samba was widely available for very little money just a year ago - at least here in Germany. The same goes for vintage Carhartt stuff or what is now known as Gorpcore items, and so on. So yes, following trends is expensive, but participating in fashion isn‘t necessarily. And I would counter your second argument in a similar way. Yes, fashion favors certain body types - but this is a very serious problem in itself (with potential [mental] health ramifications) and should not remain uncontested. I would hope that slowly but surely, fashion acknowledges that people look differently and become more inclusive. So again, saying that fashion simply “isn‘t for those“ who don‘t fit the current ideal and thereby excluding them from the fashion discourse is a statement I cannot support at all.
Bro what a refreshing video, you really framed your dissatisfaction with these aspects of the hobby very well. Especially the fact that it can be an empty pursuit, so many people are just trying to create more fashion consumers but to kinda destigmatize being removed from it and to expose how sad and boring it can get is really important.
Omg i wrote a paper on the effects of fashion has in the world for my sociology final. Basically 85% of the pollution in lanfills is from textiles (think clothes in a landfill) about a 5th of the worlds plastic pollution comes from fashion, 10% of global carbon pollution, In the paper i also wrote about the ethics of fashion as a whole. And concluded the paper with not only blaming the big fashion brands but also the consumer. The consumer plays a huge role in the manufacturing and production of fashion. We all like to talk about fast fashion but in reality fashion as a whole is the issue along with the consumer.
Love how much thought you put into your videos. I agree that for fashion, social media has made me learn so much and it has made my passion for it grow even bigger.
Gotta drop a sub. Been coming across your content for a while now and you never let me down. Always some thought provoking topics and keeps me from being in an echo chamber
Apart form the opinions, I was surprised as hell to find you on an adidas ad for gazelles, and I just looked and you're at 169k subs! I swear I started watching you at like 70k subs or something.
Lets go nuggets😤 I thought this vid was super interesting, especially when you talked about ur brand, because it’s relatable. I love fashion, and I’d love to buy sustainable fabrics and start my own brand, but realistically I might just make myself some clothes since it’s so crowded with brands, but I still would love to design stuff.
I’ve always loved fashion but gained a lot of weight over covid and only just lost most of the weight and it feels like fashion has opened back up for me I’m going for season 3 Carrie Bradshaw body type like I was before, I take way more risks when I’m skinny
Although I get the general gist of not everyone being able to afford fashion, I don’t necessarily agree with your first opinion. People with lower budgets can still be into fashion but will have their own workarounds in buying vintage or replicas. This doesn’t mean they can’t be stylish people who care about fashion.
I think you should be more specific when you say that "fashion isn't for everyone." I think what you meant to say is people trying to enter the fashion, whether it being a designer, influencer, guru, or model. Styling yourself isn't at all that hard, especially with the right mindset. Anyone can find their style, I just think you are over thinking this and just focusing on the corporate space of fashion. What is even the highest level of fashion? Are you in the highest level of fashion? What I think fashion truly is is a self expression of what you feel in the clothes you wear. I think that is something anyone can do. If you are talking about fashion as a career, then that's a different story my guy.
want to add one: "importance of practicality of clothes is underrated". Fashion designers often force us to go for trendy looks, not necesseraly for practicality . For example, wearing sherpa in summer, because it is in style . Or , wearing items without pockets/little pockets/not functional pockets. Or wearing white jeans which becomes grey after one wear. Etc ...
Overall great video bro. Two of the reasons you listed I have comments for I think your first reason, about fashion not being for everyone I think is valid, but I’d also I’d add the context of finding your own style. I think a lot of the times when people buy those higher end clothes I think sometimes it’s about really emulating the brands values, which is fine, but not much else. I think instead of people needing to feel like they need to contort themselves into what the brands values, I think they would do more to develop their own style. I mean what good is buying some of those expensive clothes if you don’t wear them well or even truly like them. For my second comment, I liked that you highlighted that the fashion industry as whole needs to change to make it more sustainable. I think often times, as you said, fast fashion gets well deserved criticism, but also I think it doesn’t help when people criticize or even villainizing the people that do buy it. Especially when that may be the only things someone can afford. But also, just because something maybe more expensive doesn’t necessarily make it better than the fast fashion product. One of the real issues is overconsumption and how attached we are too it. I think a way we could combat this is more scaled down orders of clothes. That could be accomplished with things like custom sizing to cut down on waste and excess. Also an idea I got from another channel was creating more of circular economy of clothing, which they dubbed a “clothing library”. I know the thought of some people wearing another person’s borrowed clothing is strange for some but I mean it would be in the same vein as thrifting so to speak. Like I said before, you made some great points Drew!
You should watch The devil wears Prada blue sweater scene over and over again. And learn to sew. It will help you understand fashion a little better since you are talking only as a consumer.
Very interesting discussion. I thought you brought up some great points. I’ve grown into my own style and now I found pieces that reflect what I’m going for. I think you are taking your own path as well.
Although i would wish to simply go to gym and fit in, that will not make me grow a few more inches in height, which I think is one of the issues greatly overlooked
Unpopular opinion: Sneakerheads should be their own thing, they are by definition anti-fashion. Same could apply to "bag girls" or any kind of person that only cares about 1 specific article of clothing, especially the hype around it.
I love fashion and always have, but it's exhausting to see these trend cycles move in a matter of weeks. I'm tired of seeing fashion brands from Gucci to ShEin producing lackluster products, all to meet their bottom line. At least with most fast fashion brands, they don't usually pretend they're about something new or innovative. It's more often the luxury labels that keep producing items each fashion season, and clearly don't have decent ideas. Maybe part of it is shareholders and execs pushing for new ideas, even when designers are burnt out, I don't know, but I wonder if any of those working for a fashion brand can honestly say, they aren't proud of their work and they're creatively...lacking. of course, taste will vary and something you're feeling now, you might not be feeling ten years from now, but you will be in twenty years! Or maybe it was always ugly, who knows haha
fashion like any other art is incredibly subjective... but it suffers because whereas most people are content with just viewing a certain famous painting/sculpture, everybody who can afford a certain item of clothing will buy that clothing to wear in order to make themselves look trendy/expensive/unique/aesthetically cohesive.
Fashion industry does contribute around 10% of all CO2 emissions, which is more than all the flights and marine transportation combined, which is absurd. And the biggest thing is, that environmentally it doesn't matter that much where or how a new product is made. Most significant thing is that it IS MADE in the first place. That is why I always try to shop secondhand/vintage since that is the only way to contribute into the world I love which is style and fashion while not supporting the creation of new clothing, which is initially the biggest problem here. Not gonna go and say that I dont buy new clothes from time to time, but I try my best to avoid it. Great video Drew, keep it up 🙏🏻❤️
And to add some, while agree and love social media as a platform to learn and express oneself, I would say it is the nr. 1 contributor for the pressure of youth (and why not others too) to hop on and follow all the newest trends and fads and never feel good enough with what they have, aka consume more products which is a disaster for the environment as stated before. Just giving my 2 cents on the subject, I hope you like a decent take and engagement altho a bit rant-ish 😂 I'm quite passionate about this since I'm writing my master's thesis close to this subject!
I don’t think that everything moves from the top to the bottom when it comes to timeless pieces I mean sure the suit definitely came from the top, but brother you’re wearing some of the oldest forms of workwear right now that came from the bottom. Also I think the pattern of what becomes timeless is not when it trended and fell out of trend it’s how long it can remain aesthetically appealing to generations over time. Again like denim jeans or jackets. They don’t trend, but they’re always around and everyone wears them because they just work. Timeless.
It's my hot take on your timeless pieces I think a regular fitting black or white t is timeless it fits in summer and can be layered in winter. You can throw anything and use the t as base layer and can wear them straight alone they look good in slim, skinny, wide, tapered, straight, flared any fit it's just the basic of fashion
I’m way late to this video but I’m gonna write a whole book rn because it’s late and this’ my comment lol: 2:50 Another point for why fashion may be viewed as ‘superfluous’ would be the vanity associated with it (at least to me). I live in Australia and we seem to have a big cultural emphasis on humility & mateship, meaning that you are not better than anyone else around you. Making pompousness something that’s quite fronted upon, especially regarding wealth. Whereas in America such self-confidence & success seems to be something that is encouraged and is viewed as something to be shown off shamelessly. I myself feel like it is morally wrong to do something like buy big diamond chains and flaunt it all around - what you wear and advertise about yourself is inherently you trying to send a message, this one being to provoke a certain reaction by wearing that and show yourself as being above other people by being so braggadocios. I think a lot of fashion is associated with these online & celebrity personalities with images like that & it leaves a bad taste in some peoples mouths. Not just financial accessibility being a divergent but the moral perceptions of wearing things that may associate you to a certain status or archetype of superficiality.
A lot of people could say that this is a conservative and old fashioned view of things but that doesn’t mean it’s not real and widespread. The same way most of tiktok fashion seems to stay in the vacuum of tiktok, the majority of gen x who’re tiktok fanatics and will agree to whatever the majority of Twitter is attacking that week is largely the same. Online platforms may foster and rhythmically favour far-left vs far-right content as what’s good content & generates the most interaction however the long established basic “traditional” ideas like modesty that aren’t balls to the wall in either direction are very much still firmly fostered in the real world.
My unpopular fashion take is basic isn’t bad. Some people want to dress well and not stand out like a sore thumb. So if that means dressing like everyone else, so be it. I don’t care if I dress the same way as everyone else. I just want to look cleaner without drawing too much attention to my self.
I‘m so sorry for this: Please check your pronunciation of superf-L-uous and have another look at the definition of ultimate and hence penultimate. I hardly know what you may mean by fashion, since it died in the 1990ies and what we now observe is a merry-go-round of 20-year-trends. Like a true zombie fashion still kills - probably much more than when it was still kicking. What we need is personal style. It is great to have channels like yours that reflect on the place of the individual in the face of (zombie)-fashion. I‘m so with you on social media. We can make it better, I hope. More humane etc. and still keep its great potential to inspire.
i love the second take as nothing is timeless, as in most of your videos you label your pickups as Timeless! its quite what you are doing in your own videos tbh....
I have collected the clothes I need. This year I plan to buy good shoes, yes I plan to really spend the dollars for comfort and nice fashionable shoes that will last a life time.
I would love either the heat or nuggets to win. But man the Himmy Butler saga backed up by Bam and the undrafted beasts, it’s hard not to root for that type of underdog story
theres a brand thats a bit newer to th fashion scene but uses all sustainable materials, its called sho sho deluxxe....her brand is rlly small (for now) but she makes really cool bags!
Being in fashion industry since 11 years, I can see changes on body type, but much more extreme (anorexic or obese) which is kind of sad and stupid because there's no normal people, more closer than "everyone". Normally you dont have to be skinnier to be more confident in clothing, its more about knowing your body type and fit. I hope and I work for that, normal or average shape will rise up
This video (both the parts I agree with and disagree with) is exactly why I don’t lean into “fashion” as a concept and instead stick with developing my personal “style.” I buy items produced by the fashion industry when I want to, when it resonates, and when it feels/looks good to me. I don’t care about price or trendiness as much as I care about fabric, fit, quality of construction, and ethics. “Fashion” is a component of personal style, regardless of whether it has a more artful or consumerist angle. It shouldn’t be the foundation.
I lost 25lb after a year of daily swimming. My arms are more toned, legs slim and shapely, but my back width increased a bit. Going back down to a true Small not only makes me feel more comfortable, it makes my outfit looking much better and chic.
Hi Drew, I’ve had my current pair of corduroy’s for 4 years now and they are pretty destroyed… could you recommend any quality brands that don’t completely break the bank because I haven’t been able to find any adequate ones?
Well i guess social media has some type of positive effect on fashion, but then the biggest thing that stands out for me about social media's effect on fashion is that people loose some sense of authenticity to them. Since our generatiom is so "lost" and still tryna find themselves, some of them can't even think for themselves or have thier own opinions on certain topics which basically means that they would rather be a part of a "cult" (Luh twizzy) or copy some other persons style (build up a persona) rather then actually expressing themselves
When big name fashion becomes exhausting, I usually find myself revisiting niche fashion communities to see how they update their looks every few years. Communities like Lolita, Goth, Punk, Raver fashion, and Historical Costuming are very active on RUclips, and sometimes they put you onto brands that you would never have known about.
I recently started unfollowing people whose content focuses on mostly on hauls (even if they thrift) or working with brands accumulting more things. I find it more inspiring to follow people who work with what they already have and maybe pick up a new items here or there similiar to how I live my life. I love fashion but I'm not always shopping.
Omfg yeah, where can I find RUclipsrs or content creators like that?
My unpopular fashion take is that just because someone wears super unique and different pieces doesn’t make their fashion better than someone who wears popular brands. It feels like a lot of fashion nowadays is people wearing brand and pieces that are weird or out there to be unique or ironic when in reality I think a lot of those outfits look like shit
I agree with how you say unique and novel arrangements of garments are not necessarily inherently better than more conventional fashion but they still have great value artistically when you look past their aesthetic appeal. Sometimes it doesn't matter if it looks good. Individual, unique, expression is valuable even if it isn't deemed as aesthetically pleasing to the masses
It reminds me of the hipster paradox - the drive to be unique makes all in that pursuit look the same.
I feel the opposite is truer. People buy some new Yeezys or some FoG essentials and automatically think they're the gods of fashion, way more than the reverse.
@@christophermekala3802 I would argue that beauty is an extremely important part of art and if it (the outfit or an artwork) looks like shit, the lowest common denominator of society could have created it and that is by definition not exceptional in any way.
@@PrincipalSkinner3190 Both are true. People think money buys style but it clearly doesn't, hence you have people spending a ridiculous amount of money on ugly/stupid items just because of the label. The growing thing now is to look like you took a random item from 5 different people's wardrobes while blindfolded and pretending that is fashionable just because it is unique. Both camps are clueless.
Fashion is very overwhelming, to me at least. It's a hobby that is constantly urging you to spend and think of yourself as something to be perceived. "Does this look good? I need new pants but what type? Which fit?". It's like I'm always thinking of myself, the clothes I have, the clothes I could have and everything in between. Whereas my other hobbies such as film and art make me think of everything as a whole, also I'm not pushed to think of my image most of the time. Plus, watching a movie and going to a museum is a relatively cheaper experience than buying a huge haul of designer clothes. I don't know, just looking at fashion shows and discussing them most of the time doesn't feel enough, I feel that to partake in the fashion world you got consume consume consume.
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Get into vintage and second hand
I like how you mentioned that streetwear isn’t the pinnacle of fashion. I’ve been in the streetwear game for 6+ years and I’m slowly coming out and diversifying. Love the content.
streetwear is everyday casual wear?
@@Alan-rw3ez yes. you wear it in everyday, casual situations. on the street. you might be confusing it with “basic” clothing lol
I think “being exhausted with fashion” simply comes from reinventing your style after each season collection etc.
I like how you mention 'fashion isn't for everyone' because it's often a conversation I end up having. Of all my friends I'm considered the best dressed and often get asked about it or told 'I couldn't pull that off' and I often say to them for the most part I see fashion as being whatever makes you feel most comfortable & confident, not names & labels. I feel that mindset instantly eases a persons relationship to fashion. After that I then tell them to learn what colours go well together.
My most important awakening in this past year was to realize that fashion simply isn't worth what it gives back to humanity. The wasted ressources, pollution, lives to the immense fashion industry is appalling. Truth is, most of us don't need all of our clothes. We like having many silhouettes and materials to play with and express our creativity. But when this individual creativity takes part in and encourages violence on individuals and the environment, and now that we are conscious of it, can we truly continue to endorse fashion and personal style as the virtue it is for so many people? The rise of body neutrality has made me more conscious of the way that our subjective appreciation for beauty creates discrimination. Only solution, as heartbreaking as it sounds, seems to be to stop caring about how we all appear and present ourselves. That means abandoning the grandiose "personal style" quest.
Drew is in season shape, Lakers give our guy a 10 day for the pre-game tunnel fit
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The Lakers need Drew right now 🙏🏽
@@juancharley3203I would take him over D-Lo
@@DrewJoiner superfluous* sorry for being that guy, G.🙏🏾
the lakers season is ab to be over, get him on the heat
I think you nailed it with most of these, but I think the issue of sustainability HAS to be addressed from the top because those companies at the top that are mass producing force smaller companies to adopt the norms of production to stay afloat. There's so much overhauling to do, but the reason everybody points the finger at the top is because the top is so in control, that in order to actually overhaul the industry, it has to start with those brands, because the small guys don't have the money or ability to actually make large scale change, or they'll just get stomped out by H&M and Shein simply because they don't have similar profit margins
you wanna know why surf wear companies are disappearing, Because a sweater is 80 bucks at the minimum compared to a shein or h&m sweater, the latter win every time.
companies at the very top don't mass produce at the level that fast fashion does though - that's the whole point of their business model. to create a limited supply to perpetuate exclusivity. companies at the very top also don't churn through clothing cycles every few weeks the way H&M, Zara, Shein etc. do. their business model is unique and is most harmful to the planet.
Damn, when you said "Fashion isn't for everyone" I felt that in my bones! While most of the times it's economics and affordability in other case it's preservation of creativity, I'm a musician that absolutely loves to dress well but can't be bothered with using my creativity in what I wear and use that to create music. I stick to basics most of the times and I like it.
Hey Drew, really good video. I have some thoughts on the point you made about sustainability being inconsequential in fashion. This is a really long one, so sorry about that...
I am an architecture grad student, and sustainability is certainly a conversation that happens frequently in the field of architecture. If I could simplify and speak broadly, there are maybe two schools of thought. The first is that architecture must respond to sustainability and the changing world in every way possible, and sustainable design is paramount. The other school of thought would be that it is not architecture's place to become sustainable, and architecture should focus on formal design and the pursuit of beauty (think the equivalent to 'high fashion' of the sorts). Those critical of the sustainable camp might point out the inconsequential nature or the greenwashing that could possibly stifle architecture innovation (ie, it is not architecture's place to champion sustainability, or that architecture should not 'lead' with sustainability, but it should be sought after), while those critical of the other might point out that the state of the world can no longer afford this kind of approach, and that sustainability is the human race's #1 priority.
So it becomes really interesting to me that fashion somewhat echoes the sentiment. It makes me think that if it is not fashion or architecture's place (bar a massive shift like you suggested), then who's place is it? Something has to happen, and I don't know where I personally stand on the matter. I also think fashion and architecture (certainly at the 'high fashion' and 'high architecture') level think and act very similarly. All you have to do is look at fashion labels and their association with notable architects (Prada and Herzog and de Meuron, Hermès and Renzo Piano, Virgil Abloh, etc)
Curious what you (and others) think. Forgive me if any of this sounded pretentious in how I talk about architecture, I try not to use gatekeepy language if possible.
This comment section is on fire with well articulated ideas and opinions. Great job everyone. I really enjoyed both video and comments.
King Drew I think you should really stay in this topic for a while, educating more yourself about it and spreading the information because you really had us talking.
as someone who's heavily involved in sustainability point 3 is absolutely true. vast majority of brands are atrocious and we need a complete overhaul of how the whole supply chain is structured and managed. Good On You is a good starting place to learn more about the sustainable fashion movement
Holy cow, I didn't realise all of these fashion RUclips channels were connected! I'm subbed to you and JQ! I'm also subbed to Harry Has who mentioned you in his most recent RUclips video too!
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also when you were talking about elliot choy i was like yo i watch him too
Fashion is about bodies fitting clothes, style is about clothes fitting bodies.
While I agree with your viewpoint on fashion lacking timelessness, I think it’s important to note that style transcends time. Fashion revolves around embracing the latest trends and staying current, but it truly unfolds when we cultivate a unique style that speaks our own truth. Style is constructed upon a framework of established principles and guidelines which have evolved but endured the test of time. Knowing the rules allows us to break them and create our own personal style, blending different elements together.
Certain fashion items will always possess a timeless quality to them like a leather jacket or denim jeans but there will always be variations of these items circulating based on current trends. Same goes with style genres like emo, grunge, punk, vintage, preppy, etc, they will still be around in 100 years. There is a wonderful quote from YSL that speaks volumes to all of this -
“fashion fades, style is eternal.”
I used to have the same notion that fashion is exhausting and since you are a fashion influencer/RUclipsr, I can see why you feel that way. But it doesn’t have to be. Instead of trying to compete in the rat race that is the fashion industry, take a step back and ponder why am I competing in the first place.
Ultimately, clothing is just an accessory that should compliment us, but not define us.
Clothing, in itself, is not exhausting. However it is the game we find ourselves entangled in, that is.
Mid Video the thought of how much effort you have to put into scripts for videos like these popped into my mind, so much FACTS being spit in 22 minutes is insane. Thanks for making my late night youtube sessions so much more enjoyable drew
Laini also said nothing is timeless and i agree! I do get my confidence from fashion and i love seeing what suit me and my comfort.
Drew, I always appreciate your outlooks. I am an apparel/soft goods designer and I am always impressed by how accurately you describe fashion economics and understand the chain of command and responsibility. My specific degree was in outdoor gear and sports apparel so my program heavily emphasized sustainable materials, closed loop supply chains, ethical manufacturing, and durability. The hardest part about working in this industry is, when you begin you aren’t totally aware of how absolutely atrocious the machine is. It is painful to want to create beautiful things because that is your passion and knowing you are really contributing nothing good to the world. I know many young people entering this industry live with the same woes but we have to think about what we can do to create positive changes within the system. Because while being incredibly difficult to achieve, pushing for change is far more realistic than everyone giving up and changing careers because people WILL always consume no matter what.
I see a lot of comments that “thrifting/secondhand is the only way to consume fashion responsibly.” Which, it is absolutely the best way to reduce your carbon footprint. The majority of my closet is thrifted as well. However, I see comments all the time on social outright telling folks to stop buying and I view it as a form of virtue signaling. The reality is, if people weren’t consuming NEW product at the rate we currently are, especially if we were to never buy new again, then there would be nothing in the thrift stores to buy. Secondhand shopping couldn’t be the craze it is currently if there wasn’t overconsumption steering the wheel. I don’t say this to dishearten anyone from secondhand shopping but maybe to help other’s put a lens on that it isn’t the only solution. As we used to say in school “the only thing that is truly sustainable is never buying anything at all.”
Your closet is likely wildly fragrant
@@duanekilgore9130 I’m actually allergic to scented laundry detergent 😪
Very interesting and well put together video, however I think you hit the nail on the spot in all of these takes and they are more like harsh truths that people into fashion tend to ignore rather than unpopular opinions
You never disappoint Drew! Delivery was on point as usual, and your videos always drop at the perfect time. Thanks for another great vid 🤝
I feel like you’re either friend or fam lol
Drew everything you said is why people should not follow trends and learn how to wear what fits their body types and what makes them feel good about themselves individually. You told no lies all straight talk!
First of all - I enjoy your videos a lot and like that you bring your very personal perspective to the table and are willing to discuss it. But I have to disagree hard with the arguments you make for your first point. Yes, financial means play an important role in fashion, especially mainstream fashion. But saying that fashion plain and simple “isn‘t for those“ who cannot afford the current it-pieces season after season is a very elitist thing to say and disregards that many trends develop in subcultures and are often rather inexpensive at the beginning. There was the Nike Monarch wave for example. And the Adidas Samba was widely available for very little money just a year ago - at least here in Germany. The same goes for vintage Carhartt stuff or what is now known as Gorpcore items, and so on. So yes, following trends is expensive, but participating in fashion isn‘t necessarily. And I would counter your second argument in a similar way. Yes, fashion favors certain body types - but this is a very serious problem in itself (with potential [mental] health ramifications) and should not remain uncontested. I would hope that slowly but surely, fashion acknowledges that people look differently and become more inclusive. So again, saying that fashion simply “isn‘t for those“ who don‘t fit the current ideal and thereby excluding them from the fashion discourse is a statement I cannot support at all.
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This !!!
Bro what a refreshing video, you really framed your dissatisfaction with these aspects of the hobby very well. Especially the fact that it can be an empty pursuit, so many people are just trying to create more fashion consumers but to kinda destigmatize being removed from it and to expose how sad and boring it can get is really important.
Thoughtfully said!
These opinions I feel are correct to improve fashion overall.
Omg i wrote a paper on the effects of fashion has in the world for my sociology final. Basically 85% of the pollution in lanfills is from textiles (think clothes in a landfill) about a 5th of the worlds plastic pollution comes from fashion, 10% of global carbon pollution,
In the paper i also wrote about the ethics of fashion as a whole. And concluded the paper with not only blaming the big fashion brands but also the consumer. The consumer plays a huge role in the manufacturing and production of fashion.
We all like to talk about fast fashion but in reality fashion as a whole is the issue along with the consumer.
Love how much thought you put into your videos. I agree that for fashion, social media has made me learn so much and it has made my passion for it grow even bigger.
I think the only things that are truly timeless in fashion are those which have undeniable utility and are also stylized.
didn't expect this much class consciousness in a random fashion video, keep it up!
Gotta drop a sub. Been coming across your content for a while now and you never let me down. Always some thought provoking topics and keeps me from being in an echo chamber
“Nothing in fashion is timeless”
NY Yankees cap:Am I a joke to you?
Apart form the opinions, I was surprised as hell to find you on an adidas ad for gazelles, and I just looked and you're at 169k subs! I swear I started watching you at like 70k subs or something.
Lets go nuggets😤 I thought this vid was super interesting, especially when you talked about ur brand, because it’s relatable. I love fashion, and I’d love to buy sustainable fabrics and start my own brand, but realistically I might just make myself some clothes since it’s so crowded with brands, but I still would love to design stuff.
I’ve always loved fashion but gained a lot of weight over covid and only just lost most of the weight and it feels like fashion has opened back up for me I’m going for season 3 Carrie Bradshaw body type like I was before, I take way more risks when I’m skinny
Heard a familiar voice on TV and saw your Google/Adidas commercial! Cheers!
Although I get the general gist of not everyone being able to afford fashion, I don’t necessarily agree with your first opinion.
People with lower budgets can still be into fashion but will have their own workarounds in buying vintage or replicas. This doesn’t mean they can’t be stylish people who care about fashion.
I think it can be make big difference though on how "stylish" people can be when they have low income an at a minimum can't afford fitted clothes.
i love those videos when you reflect our community and yourself and the impact and movement that exist at the moment❤
Such a power move when the add that comes on for your video is of you
Love this vid Drew. Would you consider making a video about what makes a new streatwear brand unique and also successful?
I think you should be more specific when you say that "fashion isn't for everyone." I think what you meant to say is people trying to enter the fashion, whether it being a designer, influencer, guru, or model. Styling yourself isn't at all that hard, especially with the right mindset. Anyone can find their style, I just think you are over thinking this and just focusing on the corporate space of fashion. What is even the highest level of fashion? Are you in the highest level of fashion? What I think fashion truly is is a self expression of what you feel in the clothes you wear. I think that is something anyone can do. If you are talking about fashion as a career, then that's a different story my guy.
want to add one: "importance of practicality of clothes is underrated". Fashion designers often force us to go for trendy looks, not necesseraly for practicality . For example, wearing sherpa in summer, because it is in style . Or , wearing items without pockets/little pockets/not functional pockets. Or wearing white jeans which becomes grey after one wear. Etc ...
I really enjoyed this and the well thought out opinions. Really made me think and I always appreciate that.
Overall great video bro. Two of the reasons you listed I have comments for
I think your first reason, about fashion not being for everyone I think is valid, but I’d also I’d add the context of finding your own style. I think a lot of the times when people buy those higher end clothes I think sometimes it’s about really emulating the brands values, which is fine, but not much else. I think instead of people needing to feel like they need to contort themselves into what the brands values, I think they would do more to develop their own style. I mean what good is buying some of those expensive clothes if you don’t wear them well or even truly like them.
For my second comment, I liked that you highlighted that the fashion industry as whole needs to change to make it more sustainable. I think often times, as you said, fast fashion gets well deserved criticism, but also I think it doesn’t help when people criticize or even villainizing the people that do buy it. Especially when that may be the only things someone can afford. But also, just because something maybe more expensive doesn’t necessarily make it better than the fast fashion product. One of the real issues is overconsumption and how attached we are too it. I think a way we could combat this is more scaled down orders of clothes. That could be accomplished with things like custom sizing to cut down on waste and excess. Also an idea I got from another channel was creating more of circular economy of clothing, which they dubbed a “clothing library”. I know the thought of some people wearing another person’s borrowed clothing is strange for some but I mean it would be in the same vein as thrifting so to speak.
Like I said before, you made some great points Drew!
this is confidently my favourite video drew
Great vid man, some really fresh takes. You got me thinking
I think all of your points are on point.
You should watch The devil wears Prada blue sweater scene over and over again. And learn to sew. It will help you understand fashion a little better since you are talking only as a consumer.
Very interesting discussion. I thought you brought up some great points. I’ve grown into my own style and now I found pieces that reflect what I’m going for. I think you are taking your own path as well.
I myself view fashion as expression of self, no matter what the pieces worn are or how they may be perceived by everyone else 💖
All valid but the last one with your take on social media, all in all it has done more harm than good in the younger generations.
Anyone else wanna see a vid about Drew’s favorite content creators in the realm of fashion?
What was the point of this video? You are either directly contradicting things you’ve said before or are stating the obvious.
5 minutes in I wondered the same thing but he speaks well
Although i would wish to simply go to gym and fit in, that will not make me grow a few more inches in height, which I think is one of the issues greatly overlooked
Unpopular opinion: Sneakerheads should be their own thing, they are by definition anti-fashion. Same could apply to "bag girls" or any kind of person that only cares about 1 specific article of clothing, especially the hype around it.
such a well spoken video✨✨
I love fashion and always have, but it's exhausting to see these trend cycles move in a matter of weeks. I'm tired of seeing fashion brands from Gucci to ShEin producing lackluster products, all to meet their bottom line.
At least with most fast fashion brands, they don't usually pretend they're about something new or innovative. It's more often the luxury labels that keep producing items each fashion season, and clearly don't have decent ideas.
Maybe part of it is shareholders and execs pushing for new ideas, even when designers are burnt out, I don't know, but I wonder if any of those working for a fashion brand can honestly say, they aren't proud of their work and they're creatively...lacking.
of course, taste will vary and something you're feeling now, you might not be feeling ten years from now, but you will be in twenty years! Or maybe it was always ugly, who knows haha
fashion like any other art is incredibly subjective... but it suffers because whereas most people are content with just viewing a certain famous painting/sculpture, everybody who can afford a certain item of clothing will buy that clothing to wear in order to make themselves look trendy/expensive/unique/aesthetically cohesive.
Fashion industry does contribute around 10% of all CO2 emissions, which is more than all the flights and marine transportation combined, which is absurd. And the biggest thing is, that environmentally it doesn't matter that much where or how a new product is made. Most significant thing is that it IS MADE in the first place. That is why I always try to shop secondhand/vintage since that is the only way to contribute into the world I love which is style and fashion while not supporting the creation of new clothing, which is initially the biggest problem here. Not gonna go and say that I dont buy new clothes from time to time, but I try my best to avoid it. Great video Drew, keep it up 🙏🏻❤️
And to add some, while agree and love social media as a platform to learn and express oneself, I would say it is the nr. 1 contributor for the pressure of youth (and why not others too) to hop on and follow all the newest trends and fads and never feel good enough with what they have, aka consume more products which is a disaster for the environment as stated before. Just giving my 2 cents on the subject, I hope you like a decent take and engagement altho a bit rant-ish 😂 I'm quite passionate about this since I'm writing my master's thesis close to this subject!
I read that it’s more like 40% of air pollution
Love your conversation 😊. For 2023-2024 NBA season Go Trail Blazers!
Drew always blesses us
I don’t think that everything moves from the top to the bottom when it comes to timeless pieces I mean sure the suit definitely came from the top, but brother you’re wearing some of the oldest forms of workwear right now that came from the bottom. Also I think the pattern of what becomes timeless is not when it trended and fell out of trend it’s how long it can remain aesthetically appealing to generations over time. Again like denim jeans or jackets. They don’t trend, but they’re always around and everyone wears them because they just work. Timeless.
you should make a fashion podcast
It's my hot take on your timeless pieces I think a regular fitting black or white t is timeless it fits in summer and can be layered in winter. You can throw anything and use the t as base layer and can wear them straight alone they look good in slim, skinny, wide, tapered, straight, flared any fit it's just the basic of fashion
Great takes Drew 🤝
When I hear "timeless" I think more of simplicity than anything. Like when are you not gonna be able to wear blue jeans? Shorts and slides? etc.
I’m way late to this video but I’m gonna write a whole book rn because it’s late and this’ my comment lol:
2:50 Another point for why fashion may be viewed as ‘superfluous’ would be the vanity associated with it (at least to me).
I live in Australia and we seem to have a big cultural emphasis on humility & mateship, meaning that you are not better than anyone else around you. Making pompousness something that’s quite fronted upon, especially regarding wealth.
Whereas in America such self-confidence & success seems to be something that is encouraged and is viewed as something to be shown off shamelessly.
I myself feel like it is morally wrong to do something like buy big diamond chains and flaunt it all around - what you wear and advertise about yourself is inherently you trying to send a message, this one being to provoke a certain reaction by wearing that and show yourself as being above other people by being so braggadocios.
I think a lot of fashion is associated with these online & celebrity personalities with images like that & it leaves a bad taste in some peoples mouths.
Not just financial accessibility being a divergent but the moral perceptions of wearing things that may associate you to a certain status or archetype of superficiality.
A lot of people could say that this is a conservative and old fashioned view of things but that doesn’t mean it’s not real and widespread.
The same way most of tiktok fashion seems to stay in the vacuum of tiktok, the majority of gen x who’re tiktok fanatics and will agree to whatever the majority of Twitter is attacking that week is largely the same. Online platforms may foster and rhythmically favour far-left vs far-right content as what’s good content & generates the most interaction however the long established basic “traditional” ideas like modesty that aren’t balls to the wall in either direction are very much still firmly fostered in the real world.
My unpopular fashion take is basic isn’t bad. Some people want to dress well and not stand out like a sore thumb. So if that means dressing like everyone else, so be it. I don’t care if I dress the same way as everyone else. I just want to look cleaner without drawing too much attention to my self.
I think it’ll be the Nuggets, too. They’re experienced and playing really well right now. So, we shall see.
JQ is amazing so nice to hear you watch him too
hey drew havent visited in awhile but really loved the video
Now I want to know what you thought the ultimate genre within fashion was.
I‘m so sorry for this: Please check your pronunciation of superf-L-uous and have another look at the definition of ultimate and hence penultimate. I hardly know what you may mean by fashion, since it died in the 1990ies and what we now observe is a merry-go-round of 20-year-trends. Like a true zombie fashion still kills - probably much more than when it was still kicking. What we need is personal style. It is great to have channels like yours that reflect on the place of the individual in the face of (zombie)-fashion. I‘m so with you on social media. We can make it better, I hope. More humane etc. and still keep its great potential to inspire.
Had a bit of a laugh at the doctor, teacher and architect point, architects are seen the fashion designers of buildings by engineers.
currently watching Boston getting crushed in game 3 midway thru 2nd qtr.... not feeling confident in a comeback
Man, these are literally the most popular opinions about fashion.
Great video though
I’m a simple man: I see a new Drew video, I smash that like button.
haha!! love that Peter
straight black trousers are timeless
I love your videos, Drew
i love the second take as nothing is timeless, as in most of your videos you label your pickups as Timeless! its quite what you are doing in your own videos tbh....
can we please talk about how this guy looks EXACTLY like han hyun - min. like its actually scary how much they look alike
I have collected the clothes I need. This year I plan to buy good shoes, yes I plan to really spend the dollars for comfort and nice fashionable shoes that will last a life time.
I would love either the heat or nuggets to win. But man the Himmy Butler saga backed up by Bam and the undrafted beasts, it’s hard not to root for that type of underdog story
Thanks Drew but we all know nothing is timeless thanks to entropy 😢
theres a brand thats a bit newer to th fashion scene but uses all sustainable materials, its called sho sho deluxxe....her brand is rlly small (for now) but she makes really cool bags!
#pvv denver is the clear favourite, but I´d love to see jimmy butler on top
Man, where did you buy this jacket? It's awesome
Orslow French chore coat!
Being in fashion industry since 11 years, I can see changes on body type, but much more extreme (anorexic or obese) which is kind of sad and stupid because there's no normal people, more closer than "everyone". Normally you dont have to be skinnier to be more confident in clothing, its more about knowing your body type and fit. I hope and I work for that, normal or average shape will rise up
This video (both the parts I agree with and disagree with) is exactly why I don’t lean into “fashion” as a concept and instead stick with developing my personal “style.” I buy items produced by the fashion industry when I want to, when it resonates, and when it feels/looks good to me. I don’t care about price or trendiness as much as I care about fabric, fit, quality of construction, and ethics. “Fashion” is a component of personal style, regardless of whether it has a more artful or consumerist angle. It shouldn’t be the foundation.
I lost 25lb after a year of daily swimming. My arms are more toned, legs slim and shapely, but my back width increased a bit. Going back down to a true Small not only makes me feel more comfortable, it makes my outfit looking much better and chic.
Hi Drew, I’ve had my current pair of corduroy’s for 4 years now and they are pretty destroyed… could you recommend any quality brands that don’t completely break the bank because I haven’t been able to find any adequate ones?
Such sound judgement 👏
penultimate means right before the last brother
And extradite, which he uses, means to send a criminal to another state or country lol
I think timelessness often just means that a piece is more minimal with a more standard fit. Not that there is anything wrong with that
You can't by style. Some swap meet fits can be better than the most popular name brand fits.
Well i guess social media has some type of positive effect on fashion, but then the biggest thing that stands out for me about social
media's effect on fashion is that people loose some sense of authenticity to them. Since our generatiom is so "lost" and still tryna find themselves, some of them can't even think for themselves or have thier own opinions on certain topics which basically means that they would rather be a part of a "cult" (Luh twizzy) or copy some other persons style (build up a persona) rather then actually expressing themselves
When big name fashion becomes exhausting, I usually find myself revisiting niche fashion communities to see how they update their looks every few years. Communities like Lolita, Goth, Punk, Raver fashion, and Historical Costuming are very active on RUclips, and sometimes they put you onto brands that you would never have known about.
Maybe "classic" would be a better way of describing clothes that aren't super trendy pieces but still feel in style?
Where can I get that jacket you got on bro 😂
Everyone gets the fit they deserve!
Drew's the best