New NES and SNES HD Clone - Classiq 2 Review | RGT 85
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The NES and SNES are on a high right now with things like the SNES Classic and NES Classic bringing back fans of retro games. Clone consoles are always fun to check out, and this new console from Oldskool plays both NES and SNES in HD. So how is it? Let's find out!
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There are so many clones out there, that I don't even know how the original consoles looks like anymore.
My local shop gave me the heads up on this system 2 weeks ago, I can't wait to get my hands on one to review as well. Looks great Shawn!
Your reviews are very entertaining. I really like it when you add some humor! Thanks for helping the gaming community.
Nice review. A clone that does a good job with NES and SNES? Awesome. Now if only someone would make a proper 7800 clone...
I already have an RES-Plus, but I definitely could use an HD SNES player. I'm guessing the Hyperkin machine is going to be coming out next month too? I think, as with the various HD NES players that came out earlier in the year, the wise thing to do is wait until they all release and see which one actually performs better. I'm glad to see more companies entering this space than just Hyperkin and RetroBit. As far as this machine goes, it looks to me like the video might be a bit soft, at least more-so than I'd prefer out of an HD signal. The RES-Plus was impressively sharp, so I'm hoping for a similar performance out of any HD SNES player.
Great review! I might pick one of these up. Minor point, though...You mention that the SNES "Doom" and "Doom 64" were the only two "Doom" games to hit a Nintendo console. The GBA had (surprisingly good) ports of "Doom" and "Doom 2." ;)
He mentioned 'home console' specifically, but yeah, that almost bugged me a bit, too. :)
Oh...well...uh...I play GBA games at home, so I consider it a home console! Boom! :P
I like your reviews, but giving us a bits of audio without the voiceover would be great. The audio issues are a big issue on the clone consoles, so it's nice to hear them. Otherwise, great review.
With NOAC, or Nintendo on a Chip architecture like most clone consoles have, there are still music tracks missing an extra instrument that can normally be heard on an official NES. I’m still a stickler for that, and clone consoles still haven’t gotten that fixed.
Thats my concern. I wish the audio was louder so I could hear. It seems to me that FPGA's and original hardware are my only option.
Just picked it up today for 69 bucks....because of the good review you gave it.
Compatible with SNES EverDrive?
TurricanRex
I was about to ask this! And i wonder how the color and sharpness is over hdmi? Great video, got me interested in this CC
TurricanRex Yes works with SNES EverDrive
I love them both. I recently made custom built versions of both the NES and SNES using the original motherboards and parts.
It took me a lot of time I posted instructables link on the comments you made on each video which will give you an idea. I'm not the fastest worker in the world I like to take my time to get things the way I want. Right now I'm working on a project that's going to be unlike anything I've ever seen in the console modding world. I'm anxious to get it done but parts coming in some from overseas is holding me back atm.
FYI: The Immortal John Hancock also reviewed this console and he was also impressed. The surprising thing was it also supports the Super Gameboy even though it's not officially advertised.
Pretty sure it's Hag-ger, not Hay-gar. Anyway, it's cool that it has a aspect ratio switch. I had one of these clone consoles for a while and it bugged me because it always stretched the picture to widescreen.
I definitely have to get the system now and I think with that I'm going to be done collecting as far as Hardware goes for the Super Nintendo and the NES
It's like you got inside my head somehow I literally saw this for sale on Amazon last night and I thought about buying it but I was like I haven't seen a review for it so I don't know yet and here you are
Nice review it would have been nice if you would have tried out different versions of the SFX chips and maybe the various 4 player adapters and possible the mouse or Super scope. But a good review none the less.
Jamin Warren yes ure right.I go back to my old systems because i have a multiplayer n games.Idk of the new ones
Super scope (light gun game) only work with old tube tv and crtv. It wont work with lcd and or the like of it.
Whaaatt!!! An actually decent looking clone! Never thought I'd see the day.
You sold me on this console and a great review thank you
Thanks for showing it and actually playing the games, reviewing the console in one video. Too many review tech people milk the process. Good video.
Audio seemed a little tinny in this one, did you use a different mic? Great first look at this system otherwise though
pretty sure he said his regular microphone wasn't working
I am waiting for a company to make an nes and snes clone system that you can install nes and snes roms along with adding carts on top.
looks like a SWEET system, cheers man!!!
When you opened the box, did it also come with an iPad charger?
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Bro you have become my favorite channel by a mile. Keep up the quality content and variety man. I truly enjoy these alot. I'm going to become a patreon soon and support you my friend!
another great review without sound test
Does it run Super Mario RPG? I bumped into a clone that could run Star Fox, but NOT Super Mario RPG.
We made a video review of the Super Players Snes clone console. Check our review on wicked gamer Collector. That console can play ALL Snes games! Rerpo / Pal / NTSC / FX / Region protected Games / Capcom chipped games. We tested them all out! They all work great with good sound!
Yes.
I was shocked to see that this runs castlevania III. From what I'm seeing this is the best clone nes/snes console out there especially for the $$$. I love the fact it has original controller ports for both nes and snes. I'd like to see someone tear inside one to get an idea of what's going on inside & the quality of the components. Great video.
+Nesmaniac thanks bud. I was surprised at how good it was
@@RGT85 greatings watched video TWICE and just left a detailed reply on this in your default Comments thankyou ,,,
The real _"problem"_ with games like Castlevania III are not the visuals, but the sound.
Most of the clone systems do sound emulation poorly on some games.
To really test a clone system, visuals come second and sound comes first.
Test a clone system with the following games for sound issues:
Castlevania III, Burai Fighter, Journey to Silius, Lagrange Point, Gremlins 2, Shadow of the Ninja, Bucky O'hare or Power Blade.
For graphics errors, inconsistencies, bad emulation of special chips:
Contra Force, Batman: Return of the Joker, Zanac, Guardian Legend, Metal Storm, Willow, Crisis Force, Recca Summer Carnival '92 or Solar Jetman.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEOS!!!!!!!
I like that djent song in the background.
I like how you presented this video
Keep in mind that TMNT Tournament Fighters came out on SNES too. Likely why the NES version is worth so much simply because it didn't sell well.
This guys playing these games on the toilet.
I still need to get that back to the future 2! So awesome!
This looks really good. Just gotta find out if the NES and SNES Everdrives work on it.
How's it compare to the other clones you have reviewed? Side by side pics/vids would be awesome! What about Everdrives?
I want to know are you going to do a versus video between the (Supa Retron vs Classiq 2 HD)... because both systems have very similar specs if not identical give or take a few things and there at the same price point so that video should be interesting I look forward to it if you want to do it
Super dope review thanks man
Looks interesting. Does it rip the ROM or play straight from the cart, and does Game Genie Work?
Great video, Shawn. I just did a video on the Seedi - Check it out - I have a feeling you're gonna want to cover this after watching that episode :-)
Smash JT it seems to use the NOAC architecture, which is a Nintendo on a Chip, for short. I could tell the audio didn’t sound right on Castlevania III. It usually sounds better with another lead instrument.
Another console with the God-forsaken reversed duty cycle failure. It's insane how many NES clone chipsets are using a horribly flawed UMC-manufactured clone of the 2A03 CPU (audio hardware resides in the CPU on the NES) even to this day in 2017. There is NO PLACE for any chipset like that when there have been numerous other clones that get the duty cycles right (they botch other aspects of the audio, but the issue isn't as flagrant as reversed duty cycles since it mostly affects DPCM, which not all games make use of).
The Super NES side looks pretty dull and it seems to not get as bright as the NES side. Also, I know it's hard to hear anything over RGT's voice, but I'm not hearing any stereo separation in the audio. It could be me, like I said, it's hard to hear, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case since previous HDMI clones seem to use an HDMI chipset that is lacking stereo audio inputs. If one such chipset is used here, stereo over HDMI will never happen, period.
I always appreciate the expert critique, Ace. I'm still waiting for them to enlist your input instead of getting roasted by you every time.
Trust me, I'm waiting for the day that happens too, but if nobody wants my input, I will go off and do my own things. I've already started doing that with some prototype hardware (still an NOAC, though this isn't one with any signals that could be readily used over HDMI - it's more of a test system than anything; it's not flawless, but good enough for someone who's not too fussy) and I'm looking to expand from there.
I Think it's one of the best clone consoles out there. Thanks for reviewing it!
This must be the best clone system. Plays all the games AND most importantly, hooks up to proper old TVs.
I like this one just as much as I like the GamerzTek G-Tek 2in1 HD. The only difference to me right now is the PAL/NTSC switch that this one has and GamerzTek does not have.
Great Review!
I got the one that looks like a Super NES Jr./FC Twin which had slots for both NES and Super NES and can output in HD as well as Composite. Only disappointment was that the NES controllers ports were on the side instead of on the front. I may check this one someday too.
I'm torn between this or the super retro trio hd, I'll hold off until that's reviewed.
Awesome review Shawn! This system looks pretty neat.
Thanks rgt85, this just shot up on my list!
TMNT 2 on nes was amazing, who wouldn't like it? It was like bringing the arcade home =p. It played the same, obviously didn't look quite as good, but IMO it has it's own charm.
TMNT2 on NES is good, but the original arcade game is still the best...
Why do so many clone systems mess up the pulse duty for the square wave channels?
So this thing plus 2 rom carts and you have a great system.
Josh Samuelson What ttpe of rom carts and what for,?
NES and SNES rom carts. For those of us that don't have thousands of dollars to spend on original carts.
I doubt everdrives will work on this. They normally don’t on clone hardware. It would be great if they did
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I was not ready for this.
Hmm something thinking getting for Christmas Greg !!!
I thought the box said "Time for old shool fun"
I need one of these! HD1080 is the reason way.
RatedRstar83 720p is actually better than 1080p for retro cuz it scales 3x perfectly with 240p. 1080p doesn't scale perfectly with 240p so it has to warp the image to make it fit.
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Killer! This is what I needed and not a Retron HD, it plays NTSC as well as PAL and it gets the colors right!
how accurate was the audio? Also did you try an overdrive/flashcart with it?
Man, where can I get a repro cart of Super back to the future II!?
Seems like a really cool system! BUT what's keeping these companies from selling an affordable upscaler? They can put them into a clone console and sell them at an affordable price, so why can't they just make a separate upscaler and offer it to the public? There's allot of money to be made there.
Does this have any advanced settings like anti-flicker for NES games etc?
TacticalPower88 it does not. It plays games in pixel perfect format. There’s no OS GUI to boot back to to enable any cheats and flickering like emulation does. It just plays the games. NES has the Nintendo on a Chip (NOAC) architecture, which is why the instruments on some games sound off.
your review is best than this video
My concern with any type of clone or emulation is the audio. It never seems quite right on any platforms emulation. Is the audio good?
JackCrispy NES clone consoles still use the NOAC (Nintendo on a chip) design. I noticed music issues, especially with those missing an extra instrument that can normally be heard on an OG NES.
looks awsome, and plays awsome! yea, also haggar is awwsome
Looks promising!
i have a super retrotrio and its awesome only 50 bux and it plays genesis aswell as the other 2
Very nice video.
I saw in the video that the 150 in worked but did you get a chance to test an everdrive type flash cart? Also How would you rate the NES video and audio compared to the other HDMI NES clones you recently tested?
If the dogbone was any good I'd consider buying it separately.
The Haggar jokes get you a thumbs up, buddy. :D
Does it work with NES/SNES Everdrives?
Frankie Viturello it works with the Snes Everdrive but not the NEs everdrive
Nice. I have an AVS, so I'm covered for NES/Famicom Everdrives. I don't have a HDMI SNES Everdrive solution, so this seems like one of the better clone options I've seen lately.
Robert Cooperstein:
Does it work with Star Fox and games with different special chips than the FX chip?
How was the insertion and removal of the carts? Are the pin connectors too tight or too loose?
Nice review and thanks for all the work you put into this channel! Are you looking for any european stuff? I am located in germany. Keep it up!
didnt catch the name it looks kool dough.
Aw man, how are you going to show the NTSC/PAL switch on not show off it playing any PAL games (Hero Turtles Tournament Fighters doesn't count because the Pocketgames cart is region free)? Does the switch work for both systems or just one system?
RGT- How about the Everdrive carts? Does it play them??
I can't really hear the game audio over his voice, but I imagine it's like all of the other SOAC clones... inaccurate and weird pitch glitches here and there.
Also, the graphics do not look good at all for being in HD via HDMI. They look to be at around svideo quality,with blurry pixels and wrong colors. How much of this could be the recording method is unknown.
I personally can't wait until we hit an era where all clones are FPGA based with perfect hardware emulation of the original consoles.
I might get one 👍
Does this thing support 4 NES controllers if I take apart fourcores output and shove it in
But will it play the best NES game out there, RGT 85 the video game!!!!!!? ;p
From my personal research, this clone is OKAY but that's it, it's only just OKAY. It does not properly replicated the original NES like Tim Worthingtons RGB kit or Kevtris' HDMI mod does. Those kits are worth the money. It's probably not worth replacing any current clone systems you have to buy this. I'm also extremely suspicious of those controllers. I've never played a 3rd party controller that felt mechanically acceptable to me.
good video i love these clone consoles also
Nice got 2 get one of those
Will the Super Gameboy and Retrobit GBA Adaptors work on this system?
Super Gameboy yes, not sure about the Retrobit but don't see why not
What about Everdrives? Does it work with flash carts?
Thanks for this vid! Sound is harsh though hurts my ears - damn.
I can't play the games on my Roku T.V. any suggestions? It only plays cutscenes.
Actually it’s very impressive that it runs doom because it has many graphical issues on many emulators and bootlegs
It's an awesome system dude. My current "go to" when recording footage!
See, look Shawn I like you, I'm not at all claiming you do this with some sort of malicious intent. But, your review here, for example. A popular game should be shown, and you did that. We also need the audio, and that is what is missing. For Castlevania the audio is so low, I cannot tell. Some people are okay with the audio glitches and don't seem to notice them. I'd like a good hdmi snes to go along with my AVS. So id really be interested in this if the snes works. I do however, find it hard to believe that this nes on a chip product does that. For me $70 for a Retron 5 style product is not for me. We need a snes fpga. Starting to think fpga's are the only things that can compare to the original as far as upgrading to HDTV's. I'm not knocking you, I just need more info.
Thanks for reviewing this device! Does it work with the Everdrive N8 (NES) and the Super Everdrive (SNES)?
If it is not hassle I would like to know if it works with flashcards like everdrive?
Same question is it pulling the rom or is it hardware? Do sfc fit on the cartridge slot?
Is this system still available? Where can I get it? Thanks.
Kinda late but I've been trying to play donkey Kong country 2 on mine but I'm getting a (not designed for your SNES screen) can anyone help?
What band is playing in the background?
Does it play famicom and superfamicom cartridges and fit hardware wise?
Nice! Just one question: N64 HD when? *_I NEEEED IIIIIIIITTTT!!!_*
Everdark Entertainment n64 clone will be the first clone console I will buy
Rafael Mendoza Same; reading a lot of that text through composite cables on an HD screen is the definition of 'the struggle.' Especially if you're more than two feet away from the screen, and not squinting. :b
Wow looking good. Is this hardware or emulation? I also want to know if the everdrive works good with this.
Bro you gonna be at the Portland expo?
Did you said Doom is not a really good game? WUUUUTT?? Thats a timeless classic, a game you can still play in 2017 and have fun. Yes maybe the SNES version is not the best, but i guarentee you the X360 version on live arcade is great to play even today.
Otherwise this system looks good but got the same problem for me as much others. I want the system always pre-loaded with every games. I don't care for collection or original plastic stuff. I guess i can buy one of those cartridges of ebay tough... that would work on this.
Great comments BTW, very funny LOL
Doom is a clone of Golden eye and why didnt you try streets of rage?? WHAT!!?!?!!
Nice! I look forward to a comparison video with other clones. Also, I'd like to know if it can play everdrives.
So... what are your thoughts on the new Gameboy rumor?
ibiscar06
It's coming out next year..
Rex Apis awesome