Salomon Skates // Still Killing the Industry?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- This week I'm talking about Salomon Skates. Ricardo's Industry Killers video popped up on my home page a couple of weeks back and this inspired me to put pen to paper and make a video of my own.
Are these skates still killing the industry in 2021? Let's take a closer look...
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the fact that people are still talking about it shows how good Salomon skates are to this day. I loved my STs. if any decade old product is killing an industry today, that industry deserves it
I still remember my mom taking me to the skate shop to pick up my pair of Salomon Aaron feinberg's in the dark grey color way. Best skate I ever owned. So many memories with this brand. I'm 33 but looking at these skates makes me feel like a kid again. Best hard boots in the game even now IMO. ST9 & ST80 were also personal favourites but the AF's were the 1 for me. Salomon was all I wore for a lot of years lol.
Thanks for sharing this man. Agreed these are great boots which loads of great memories for so many of us 😁
@@chrischadwick1 I went online and ordered a pair of the boots right after this lol. No problem, thanks for keeping the sport highlighted foreal. Even ordered my 9yr old daughter a pair. So proud
@@CamSeanoaTolls26 that's awesome to hear bro. Keep Rolling 🔥❤🙏
@@chrischadwick1 mos def will fam 🙏🏾🔥
I felt like when I was skating hard in the 90’s as a teenager. Every single person had the ST9’s. I still have mine to this day.
Completely agree with you, there’s no other hard boot that looks or feels quite like a Salomon.
Everything about it is so aesthetically pleasing, between the heel cup/cuff section is what really has always grabbed my eye, and the look down when skating them, also the lacing system, can’t believe no one has utilized the lace locks to this day.
I have two pairs, sti pros with king souls, themtuition liners and oysi medium frames, and I’ve got a pair of st9’s that I’m working on updating
I saw that video as well. I love Ricardo Lino’s stuff. His perspective made sense to me on the one hand, on another hand, as many have said- buying soul plates, wheels, etc still supports the industry. I agree with one of the commenters that if an industry is being tanked by a decades old product, that industry is not doing enough. I think it’s important to remember as well that a lot of these industries are paid for by the money of middle schoolers and high schoolers. Not all of them get money from their parents. And there’s a huge market still in Latin America. One commenter from Latin America commented on Lino’s page that in his country, it would take an extremely long time to save enough to buy a complete pair of skates. So he bought used because that is the only way that he could participate in the industry. Your primary purchasing demographic doesn’t necessarily have a lot of money to burn. I think it’s really cool that people have found a way to make those old boots work.
Also he has since posted a video taking a lot of these types of comments into account.
Great insights thanks for sharing man 🤙
This takes me back! It’s crazy to see that Salomon boots are still used today! I’ve just got back into blading after 15 years away from the scene and I used to have a pair of Salomon skates back in the day and loved them, I never thought they were killing the industry....exactly the opposite actually. I’ve seen Ricardo’s video and didn’t really agree with his point of view, good to see someone who has an alternative idea and that is why I always loved blading!
Hi Matt, welcome back! Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah its definitely good to have a diverse range of view pojnts out there and YT has opened up a great platform for discussion. What boots are you rolling on these days?
@@chrischadwick1 Thanks for the reply! A few weeks ago I bought my first ever pair of big wheel blades - Powerslide Next 100mm and they are so good! Big whelk blading wasn’t a thing back in the day and I’m now nearly 36 and just wanted to cruise and have some fun!
@@mattgrantham3161 yeah! Absolutely love big wheels, it opens up so much opportunity and is so much kinder to joints and ligaments this side of 30! If your looking for more big wheel inspiration check out 30nRollin in the US and Stephen Johnstone (SJR) here in the uk.
You're right about being like golfers. I have not only a pair Salomon ST Pros, I also have some Remz 08 02s, Remz Haffey 04 Ones and more recently purchased Chris Farmer USD Sways and the all white 57mm complete Sway.
Plus all manner of hardware! So yes I may skate Salo every now and then, but I put plenty of money into current skate products as well. I swear I have a wheel addiction! When I was younger new wheels were few and far between, now as an adult everytime I see a new design of wheel I like I buy them. 😬 Now I'm seeing them like little rings of art haha.
Cheers for the video, I concur!
Thanks man, im the same. As kids me and my bros would skate wheels down to the core. These days i have draws full!
I've spent more money on parts for my salomons than I've spent on entire new skates.
100% man. Reviving a pair of salos is always more expensive than buying a whole new setup 🤣
I really didn't get his video. Like, there is no actual problem.
He's telling people not to buy second hand skates because they're ruining the market? What? In what way? Also this would be true for ANY "dead" brand, not just Salomon. It's simply not true, yet it's all he says. Which shows that he just seems to have a personal issue with Salomon or that there actually was something sketchy going on for him to make such a video.
Most of Salomon shoes nowadays are sold second hand- which DIRECTLY supports skaters. Then you buy new parts for them anyway etc.
The second big problem I have with his video is him telling us to support the industry by buying from literally any (alive) brand on the market. As "great" example he uses wish. Which is the worst market place ever.
90% of brands produce as cheap as possible in China. Why should I support these brands over a great second hand boot where my money goes directly to a passionate skater (who eventually might use it on these brands anyway)?
It just doesn't make any sense.
Agreed man. I think he was purposefully trying to stir up controversy to some extent!
One of the only few plastic boots (whose usage has endures) that looks markedly different than a slightly modified Rollerblade Lightning TRS. Aeons being another one that was a significant departure from a super 'traditional' boot mold.... Sals also are made of some incredible plastic. No backslide plate and they still last for years and years on concrete ledges.
Great video! I agree 100% with you => I have 3 other pairs of skates besides my Salomon ST10s and I buy lots of parts for tinkering on them!
Absolutely same here man! Salomon owners always have a cupboard full of skates and parts 😁
I agree 100%. I have two pairs of Aeon beside my Salomons and for my Salomons I bought new shockabsorber, soulplates, frames, wheels, bearings, liner. So the industry benefits also from old Salomons 🤷♂️👍
100% there such great skates 👍
Ive had my solo st one's for 21 years. rode them to high school and back every day. have 100s of miles on them. just dug them out of the garage last night. thought about posting them for sale and the memories were to good to let them go. I'm so impressed they are still 1 of the best skates and if i find a youngster interested in them i would happily let hem go. but for now time to get some liners, wheels, bearings and ride them for good times sake.
I always found the natural boot groove the perfect shape for locking into backslides or royales, never been a fan of big backside plates can't bone my feet properly.
II bought the very first ST9 in coffee and white frames, upgraded from a pair of Out Daisies which were like plastic wellies in comparison. The skate was a game changer, picked up a 2nd pair of st9s in white with blue frames once those wore out, best skate ever.
When I was 8 these blew my mind in a flat set up. Aaron Fineberg was on top of the blading scene
He sure was they Aaron and these skates were pretty groundbreaking
It is already dodgy to claim to speak on behalf of an industry from a moral standpoint. But when that person works for Micro which is a rip off brand of a skater owned company like FR, these claims are downright ridiculous. Do whatever you do to skate the way you want to skate, and send all the gospel to the shitter.
The equipment from Slaomon is very good, I use it for skiing and I am very satisfied with it !
Yeah they make some dope stuff for sure 👍
I just bought a pair of Aaron Feingbergs to replace my Team XXI Aeon 60s, so I'd have to say they can only be good for the industry! I'm keeping my 909s, but the Aeons have to go. Any skate that can get Powerslide products off of people's feet has to be a net benefit for the sport lmao
Great video! I have the sti pros and I want to set them up with bigger wheels and frames just like your skates. I need help tho lol any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
I feel like the original 'industry killer' video was just purely channel marketing. The fact that he termed it in such an abrasive, divisive and reductive way that caused and still causes his video to be referenced should be proof of this. Same with the 'identity crisis' stuff recently. Clickbaity, easily repeatable sloganeering. It's the biggest non-issue.
Hi Shaun, thanks for taking the time to respond. I think your right that that the title of Ricardos original video was intentionally provocative, but i think he genuinely feels strongly about the issue and it made for some interesting discussion.
However i dont think the identity stuff is a none issue, i think we do need to decide what we call our sport and its sub divisions. Interested to hear why do you think its a none issue?
@@chrischadwick1 I'm probably being cynical but I really don't feel like he does feel strongly about it. It's such a ridiculously small amount of people who are even skating Salo's and the counter-arguments you made in your video should be obvious to anyone who has given it even the smallest bit of thought. And on the identity crisis thing, does it matter? Without having any data of course I'd say the vast majority call it inline skating/skating as an umbrella term anyway and if I was to throw in a curveball and call it rollerblading to a random person, they'd understand what I meant. Do we call slalom, aggressive, freestyle/urban, rec, speed, downhill, marathon, etc, etc all one name? I doubt that would be easier to market and pretty reductive seeing all those things barely interact with each other culturally (you know how hardcore aggressive skaters are!! haha). Do we force non-english speaking countries to use one English term? That would be troublesome and anglocentric. I feel like everything else is the same also. You wanna go biking? Does that mean BMX, mountain, road biking, trials biking? Skateboards, long boards, penny boards, cruiser boards etc etc. Language is messy and is in constant change depending on the context. I think trying to lock the world into a single term is a waste of energy.
@@ThatShaunBoy Awesome response man, i think thats really insightful and can definitely see your point of view. Maybe you should make a video on it?
@@chrischadwick1 haha, I think this comment rant was bad enough! It takes a skill which I absolutely do not have to formulate a vlog style video that isn't just spewing. You're good at it and you always come across reasonable. I enjoy it a lot.. I'd end up getting self conscious halfway, doubting myself and crumbling. Wouldn't be high quality material haha
@@ThatShaunBoy haha, i enjoyed the rant! it's all just practice really. My review of the GC frames from 7 months ago is the flatest, least dynamic 4 mins of my life 🤣 Definitely took me a while to become even vaugely comfortable talking to a camera, but i totally get its not for everyone.
You been skating much recently?
I don't think there's ever been a better looking hard boot either!
You know it brev 🙏🍻
Thanks man great video you have a new subscriber hope you the best!
Thanks! Much appreciated 🙏
Think it's great for the industry, like the old K2 Points Bob and King 55s, ST 8 and 9s were beasts. Wish I bought my own pair when I was younger.
Any advise on a good place to get a pair nowadays?
Thanks man. I bought mine of a Facebook group 'uk blade trade and sell' but every country seems to have an equivalent. Where are you based?
@@chrischadwick1 from the UK too, Hertfordshire. I got some replacement cuffs from that group for my old 2007 RB Teams, just never found a decent looking pair of the STs. Will keep and eye out. If you see any good pairs and could give the heads up would really appreciate it
I loved my salmons. My next skate was a usd pirus. They were too heavy and i slowly drifted away from blading. I was recently thinking to start again. So need some new skates but no more salamons. Shit. Somewhere in my mum and dads attic is a pair of white st9's with black frames. Next time i travel back home i will dig them out. Any tips on new skates that feel like these.
Hey Fraser, welcome back. I've heard THEM 909 are a good replacement for the Salomon feel but I haven't ridden them personally
I know this is 7 months old now, but I think that USD has multiple skates that are like salos. I think USD Carbons and carbon free are a very Salo esq shape and feel...but FAR lighter, better sole plate design and tbh a better overall skate (not knocking salo's btw they are great I had like 3 pairs back in the day including the vinny mintons with the huge sole plates that were actually terrible). The USD Aeon is sort of like a Salo kind of skate, with a lot of the same drawbacks he named in this video tbh that vanilla (without any mods) Salos have. Lastly, I'd say Iqons the AG 10 and 20 are both similar to Salos...BUT, in my opinion, actually better..seeing as those are just rebranded USD carbons and carbon free's. Hope you get back into blading though.
Skating has always been about selling used skates, and used products We never really thought about the industry because we are the skaters not the sales managers for the companies. We sell used skates, used helmets, used wheels and parts so we can make money. It never had anything to do with trying to get a little more money into the huge corporations in the industry. If you want to support "The Industry" buy products from the companies you like.
just found my old Salomon ST80 skates, and now trying to find some new wheels for them ^^ and maybe some barrings
Sick! That's awesome to hear. There such a strong boot. You going aggressive of big wheels?
@@chrischadwick1 i dont know the pro/con of big and small wheels. The ones the st80 came with are pretty small. 56mm i think. But was thinking of getting a new pair. Sinse they are a bit loose on my feets
@@Garzyan sounds good man, mine are definitely a bit on the roomy side. They work great for flat 80mm for cruising 👍
@@chrischadwick1 still doing alot of research. Back then we didt have this many options around here. So i have no idea whats good and for what. Tried carefully to roll on some ramps. So thats a start
iv been doing some research on skates lloking to get back into it by working out ..wonder if salomon would be a good first pair /bargan ebay possibly
Wouldn't recommend Salomon as a first pair. Something with a a bigger soul and a backside plate would be better. Them skates or razors SL's are both solid choices
Only because they went out of business And they're still one of The best brands of aggressive inline skates that you can still buy And outperform brand new skates that are on the market And these will pretty much always be good as long as the shock absorber and the grindplates are good enough shape They will still out perform most new brands, They would not go with cheaper parts to save money, they built 1or 2 of the best skates to ever hit the inline market I had friends that used to inline skate but just for the fun of it they didn't aggressive and lying they just like vomit hills and parking garages
They don't make skates like they used to, the ST's were such good looking skates and bullet proof, if I didn't have my fifths at the time I would have skated them but the Roces back then were also bullet proof and lasted me many years of hard daily street skating. Not to say all skates now aren't well built I just think quality control was much better back then.
Salomon were definitely making a great quality product that's stood the test of time!
Hi Chris how much do you think an average salomon skates are worth?
Hey man, a factor's to consider here
Condition (particularly liners and shock absorbers) Most salo shocks have crumbled and melted into the bottom of the boot over the years!
Rarity is another factor, the st8 blues are one of the rarist so attract a higher price tag. The Rob Thompson Pro and the St teams also sell well.
But as a general rule of thumb a new or like new pair should be £100 to £200. A well used pair £40 to £50. A rare pair in mint condition £200 and up.
If you are buying factor in price of new shocks and liners where needed and whether or not you'll need to convert them to ufs. Its easy to do but takes a bit of time. Oh and Facebook Blade trade will often show you the price skates sold for so you can use this as a guide too. Hope that helps man!
Wow dude thanks for for the %100 yea I've been obsessing over starting to learn to skate for the past week and put just over £50 on a pair of solomons as I couldn't afford new quality boots but wasn't sure because I have 0 experience
@@paulbrindle7143 no problem dude. £50 sounds about right for a used pair. Just bare in mind salos have 0 royale groove so they are a bit harder for royales etc. They are pretty much perfect otherwise though and it didn't seem to hold Aaron feinburg back! Give me a shout if I can be of any more help 👍
I agree , i'me not a pro but i still have 4 pairs of skates at the same time, with xsjado as a sentyment , and i think if someone buys Salomon its his skates nr X... He already buys skates , frames , mods , weels , gear ... So he is supportind the industry all the time ...
... It is a tribute to the Salomon skate , i have thing like that for xsjado...
Belive me i got my friends to mod they skates and upgrade not whan i had new frames but whan i 3d printed gold parts for my powerslides 🤣
Definitely man, well said!
This was made in my era it is a very good skate
It sure is, the st8 & st9 are absolute classics!
How many cms are your feet?