Hello, I am Howard McGoldrick & I am the guy that posted the Pond Street Fire video. I'm Chief of Third District Fire Company, Station 14 in Bucks County. I was the operations officer on this call. First, I'd like to say you do a pretty good job on the critique, but as you know it's much easier to sit behind the computer with all the time in the world and pick things apart. Every fireman watching RUclips does just that…me included. I feel so strongly that these videos are great learning tools that I outfitted my trucks and cars and issue helmets with cameras so that we can all learn from each other. We can learn from mistakes, close calls, and great strategy and tactics. This call had all of my last sentence. This will be long, but I will do my best to clarify a few things, hopefully, in order as they were pointed out. My intention is to have people understand and learn from it. The car that was about to blow through the stop sign: I live in the same neighborhood that the firehouse is located in, and during the day, I go to the station first to make sure the truck gets out with adequate staffing. We are 100% volunteer. I don't go quickly through the neighborhood and if I blasted the siren it would have made no difference to the guy that runs that stop sign everyday I drive as if no one pays attention to lights and sirens because they generally don't. I had plenty of time to stop and avoid the guy, which I did. That being said, why not blast the siren in the neighborhood? The answer is simple, little kids love to run out and see the truck, and a lot of times, they run in front to take a picture. I try to avoid this scenario by going quietly. Mach 1 going to the call: That road is under construction and in bad shape with pot holes. I am a faster driver, but a very safe driver & you explained it correctly…the camera does make it seem faster than it actually is. Good luck trying to get down that road with speed. Fire in the cantilevered mansard facade: The fire was burning both horizontally and vertically and extending along the roof, which is something the dash cam can't show. The thermal imager on the drone clearly showed this, although I only used a small sample of that footage. Getting the soffit opened quickly to see how far the fire is running is important. Think of these things as external open cocklofts waiting to drop on your head. Transmitting the 2nd alarm: In Bucks County, the 2nd alarm assignments can vary, but in general, it's 4 engines, 2 ladders, and a rescue. Being 100% volunteer, the manpower & response time won't be as good in the daytime as it is at night. Knowing we have very strong winds pushing embers all over the exposure houses and being unsure at that time of how much of the roof and interior was involved, the decision was made to strike the 2nd alarm. I think it was the right move and something many chiefs don't have the balls to do because they are afraid a Monday morning quarterback (like in this video) will criticize them for it. Position of Engine 14: You can ask 10 experienced driver operators where to put the engine, and you'll get 10 similar but different answers. My personnel are taught to position the pumper in a way so as not to block the ladder companies. I also teach them to position where the fire is going and not necessarily where it currently is. E-14 was positioned in a manner to cut off the horizontal spread of fire from reaching the attached houses. This was accomplished by using the deck gun in conjunction with 2 attack lines. The position was very effective as evidence of the very rapid knockdown of fire. Making the stretch: I agree that the line should not have been stretched between the pole and building, and when we critiqued the call immediately afterward, that was emphasized. The guy pulling the line is new, and it’s his second time pulling the line. The video was a great tool for the critique. Deputy Chief picking up the line: E-14 had a father and 2 sons on the truck plus an unrelated driver. In my area and probably most of the North East, if you sit the nozzle down and walk away, you aren't getting it back. Yes, my deputy chief taught his son a lesson that I'm sure he won't forget. In most of my areas, chief officers & company officers wear white helmets. Cantilevered mansard facade: You are incorrect about the construction. From the center point to the left “B side” is block construction and from center to the right ‘D side” is wood frame. The facade looked the same but was actually 2 different construction techniques that we did not know until after the call. The left side with the block had through bolts with cable supports, and the right side had cantilevered wood with through bolts and cables. These things are dangerous, but everyone on the fire ground needs to recognize the collapse potential. The left side collapsed in a different manner than the right side, which had small localized collapses as opposed to the sudden massive collapse. Forcing entry versus breaking windows: These locks have key access on both sides, and we like to keep as much of the windows intact to minimize smoke and water damage to the uninvolved areas. Operating under the facade: Firefighting is an inherently dangerous profession, and operating near these facades is high risk. Everyone needs to keep alert for signs of collapse. We could have stayed home and been completely safe, but then the building and houses would have burned to the ground. The left side facade was a sudden collapse, and I agree that those personnel should have been away from the collapse zone. The expansion and contraction of the bolts and cables is most likely what caused the failure and collapse. Thermal imaging drone: I inserted the thermal imaging clip at the wrong time in the video. That clip was taken at the beginning of the call. All the technology in the world is useless if you don't know how to use it or interpret the information. The heat signature in the center is coming off the roof line where it was burning. We used that footage to determine we needed master steams on the roof fast. We had E-14, E-52 & Quint 51 flowing guns on the roof, and this was done very rapidly. We were fighting 35-40 MPH winds, which was causing embers to dump all over those exposures. 3 different guns from 3 angels using independent water supplies. Big water fast is why this fire was under control in less than 20 minutes with little to no interior damage to the buildings I show a few different camera angles of the collapses in this video: ruclips.net/video/PMk3ggXD1Lc/видео.html Howard McGoldrick
I’m very much appreciate your response sir. Thank you for taking the time to go through the entire incident. Hopefully, many will read this for a great perspective of what it’s like when you’re in charge I hope you noticed that I try to do my best to be as diplomatic, open minded, empathetic to the complexities of any fire, particularly when you’re not there, and don’t know the entire story. Some of the joking around, obviously is just for entertainment purposes, to keep people engaged. Much like yourself I do believe there is lots to be learned at any fire and sharing these things has tremendous educational value . If anyone can pick up one tip along the way, it may make a fire, go more smoothly, or potentially save a life. Some of my explanations, even regarding the second alarm wasn’t questioning your decision, but more about explaining how differently areas of the country operate. I wish you and your department well and thank you again.
Thank you for explaining this all. Great stop and great call for the 2nd alarm- better too much manpower early, than too little too late. Especially when dealing with all volunteer- you never know for sure how quickly you can fill out the box. Keep up the great work! 👍
That vasaud is very dangers. I was onscene when a L.A.county firefiter was killed and 2 other FF were pushed into the fire when it collapsed. That came out with miner injuries.🎉
Let me add another reason for blasting the sirens: To let the person(s) who called know you are coming. I was the victim of a hit and run as pedestrian. Lying on the side of the road in pain from a broken leg I called 911. The dispatcher told me help was on the way, and I was intensely listening for a siren, but they responded with lights only. Had they blasted the air horn on the fire engine pulling out of the station I would have known they were on the way, but because they didn't I laid on the ground not knowing if the ambulance was coming from the station only a mile away or if I was waiting for mutual aid coming from 15 miles a way. I don't want to sound at all ungrateful or critical of the heroes that did respond, but it would have been a little less stressful for me if they used their sirens. The primary purpose of a siren is to alert other drivers on the roadway to get out of the way, but it is also a way of letting stressed out victims know the "cavalry is on the way"
I am a probationary firefighter (volunteer) in Suffolk County NY and I really enjoy and appreciate all the info and insight in your videos. I had seen this before but your commentary was very interesting. Thank you!
I start my first day on the job this week in the up here in the north east. I been really enjoying your reaction videos very informative and different than the other RUclips channels. Thanks for all the great videos!
Great breakdown! Compared to some ops over here in my neck of the woods, they were a bit slow on the water flow, but once they got it going it was a solid knock and they all did a decent job.
A few things right out of the gate, Bucks is far ahead of a lot of areas in terms of fire ground radio on both the dispatch and the user side, a big thing I ll give the Chief credit for “replace the companies that do not get out” no use of “hold off on further alerts” or “crewing up (just straight up your responding or your not)” that first arriving Quint needs to make up its mind, are you an engine or truck. What ever you decide you will be, do it and do it well. And kudos to the engine driver for verbalizing his concern for his positioning, that doesn’t happen enough in suburbia. As for the second alarm, when in doubt start it, they did the best of both worlds, started, assigned a staging point and a staging officer. Can’t fault that for a second.
I agree with 💯 of your critique. I would add that I would have wanted that engine to the left of the yellow line and started with the deck gun as the 2-1/2 or 3 was stretched OUTSIDE THE COLLAPSE ZONE. I would also have the ladder up and ready to be used for roof access or elevated master stream if it had extended into the building. The second ladder could have been used to open up the soffit from the ladder, using a chainsaw or circular type saw. They were very lucky nobody got hurt. Good fast knockdown by “the dad”.
As the officer of the first engine on scene we dropped in a 5 inch line and lead off with a 200 foot 1 3/4 line a 150 foot 1 3/4 line and a roof mounted deck gun with in the first 5 mins on scene.
@@mikeferguson8251 thanks for the reply. Not a bad plan of attack. Hindsight is always 50/50 and it’s always easier to command a scene after the fact from one’s recliner! LOL! I add comments because I believe that we all can learn from different perspectives and experiences. I’ve had some very successful fire attacks and some not so successful (like “what was I thinking” ones, 😆). Good job overall!👍
So as a responding firefighter I have a few comments. First thing is in the county white helmets signify chiefs, deputy chiefs, assistant chiefs, battalions chiefs, or captains. The second alarm was hit 1 because of the time of day to have manpower there ready to go and two the second alarm was to report to staging area. The fire did in fact burn the roof of the building and into part of the building. The Chief knew the layout of the building and didn’t wanna take a chance of loosing the entire corner so he wanted to be the next step ahead. Also the wind that day was ripping in the area and it was about 15 degrees outside.
Yes, I think I initially stated they did a pretty good job. I also didn’t question the second alarm. I was just explaining to some (lots of young guys and probies watch these). who may not understand that second alarms all around the country are vastly different things. Thanks for the explanation on the helmets. That’s not something I’ve seen in my career.
Agreed on all points brother! Basically you would think you were rolling up on a mansard type roof not a façade and that had the potential to take a bunch of members out.
A lot of those little "Pizza Hut" eaves are gingerbread tack ons and are added onto buildings in dubious ways. I hate walking under them any day. The fire along the edge of the building scares me too. Some older construction has the stringers, joists just laid into brick pockets. That front work was hung there on nails. Who woulda guessed?
The first officer arriving can see there is a fire in the parapet. They would not know the origin at this time. They need to get water inside the parapet fast. No roof work and no inside work. You also have a collapse threat to consider. Those parapets are tacked on, not built in. You hit that burn through area with a tight cone of tank water that will send the water laterally along the length of the parapet in both directions. Access holes will need to be cut to check for extension. This can be done from the roof after the fire is knocked down. You'll need to check the ceiling inside also. Now, to review their performance. Firefighters in general have to stop being mesmerized by flames and smoke. Applying water along the top of the parapet is going to accomplish nothing. You have to focus on the burning material. They had direct access through those one foot square holes in the soffit. Overall, I saw no sensitivity to the possibility of collapse. I think they will be more sensitive from now on.
Agree on the line stretch. Assuming it's a cross-lay, ideally it would have been pulled from the engineers side to create a larger arc. Also, it's a triple layer load, meaning once he cleared his nozzle bale that engineer should have hit his ass with water ( and Dad couldn't have taken his line, haha). The line will clear itself into a nice fat S shape, that is why we use the triple layer. All of that flaking was unnecessary if he had positioned the line correctly first. I don't know why it takes so long in these videos for the engineer to get his truck into pump and supply the first line. They've got at least 500 gallons to start.
Triple layer load? That the same as a Trifold? I suspect it is. I have use that. Typically fine for stretches that are away from the engine. It can be problematic if you are on a city street with a few steps to the front door.
I saw they had a long "apartment trifold" as I learned it where it is needed to run into apartments. not so nice when you have to waste spaghetti at the curbside, it is just life there, you can't cover everything but I was really rooting for that water to flow faster.
hi can you tell me what makes their radio sound like they're talking in a can, I listed to fdny and they are loud and clear, you here that allots in police and fire department almost like they have a rag in their mouth
After you see enough fire videos from this area of the country...Penn.....you'll notice "white hats" coming out of the either space grabbing nozzles away from "black hats".....maybe fewer chiefs and maybe more Lt's and Captains......
@@TransmitThe1075I’m the UAV, thermal drone, Pilot for the Croydon Fire Company. I would be happy to answer any questions on its use in regards to this incident and in general.
One more thing: using the deck gun would have helped to open more of that soffit and might have knocked it down before it fell. I would have busted out the window in the door, too. This is from experience with a similar situation. (I waited, with nozzle in hand on air while 2 guys were trying to force entry with the irons…with a big floor to ceiling window directly adjacent to the door)! We must keep in mind that while we are preparing to enter and attack, the fire is generally doubling every 30 seconds. There’s no time to waste. Great analysis. Stay safe folks!
I know everyone on the foreground is a firefighter....but.....when they get their white hat they don't have to respond to the station to make the truck they drive to the scene and swipe nozzles....
Assuming the firefighters have the competency to perform the duties required, they should be doing the work, and the white hats should be leading. That’s the whole idea.
I was the white hat. I was riding the front seat of the engine the guy that pulled the line had a problem with his equipment that’s why I had the line. I did not take it from him.
Which is better, a truck with 6 white helmets riding on it or a truck that does not get out? In the volunteer world, there are too many chiefs who think going to the station to get the truck out is beneath them.
Hello, I am Howard McGoldrick & I am the guy that posted the Pond Street Fire video. I'm Chief of Third District Fire Company, Station 14 in Bucks County. I was the operations officer on this call.
First, I'd like to say you do a pretty good job on the critique, but as you know it's much easier to sit behind the computer with all the time in the world and pick things apart. Every fireman watching RUclips does just that…me included. I feel so strongly that these videos are great learning tools that I outfitted my trucks and cars and issue helmets with cameras so that we can all learn from each other. We can learn from mistakes, close calls, and great strategy and tactics. This call had all of my last sentence.
This will be long, but I will do my best to clarify a few things, hopefully, in order as they were pointed out. My intention is to have people understand and learn from it.
The car that was about to blow through the stop sign:
I live in the same neighborhood that the firehouse is located in, and during the day, I go to the station first to make sure the truck gets out with adequate staffing. We are 100% volunteer. I don't go quickly through the neighborhood and if I blasted the siren it would have made no difference to the guy that runs that stop sign everyday I drive as if no one pays attention to lights and sirens because they generally don't. I had plenty of time to stop and avoid the guy, which I did. That being said, why not blast the siren in the neighborhood? The answer is simple, little kids love to run out and see the truck, and a lot of times, they run in front to take a picture. I try to avoid this scenario by going quietly.
Mach 1 going to the call:
That road is under construction and in bad shape with pot holes. I am a faster driver, but a very safe driver & you explained it correctly…the camera does make it seem faster than it actually is. Good luck trying to get down that road with speed.
Fire in the cantilevered mansard facade:
The fire was burning both horizontally and vertically and extending along the roof, which is something the dash cam can't show. The thermal imager on the drone clearly showed this, although I only used a small sample of that footage. Getting the soffit opened quickly to see how far the fire is running is important. Think of these things as external open cocklofts waiting to drop on your head.
Transmitting the 2nd alarm:
In Bucks County, the 2nd alarm assignments can vary, but in general, it's 4 engines, 2 ladders, and a rescue. Being 100% volunteer, the manpower & response time won't be as good in the daytime as it is at night. Knowing we have very strong winds pushing embers all over the exposure houses and being unsure at that time of how much of the roof and interior was involved, the decision was made to strike the 2nd alarm. I think it was the right move and something many chiefs don't have the balls to do because they are afraid a Monday morning quarterback (like in this video) will criticize them for it.
Position of Engine 14:
You can ask 10 experienced driver operators where to put the engine, and you'll get 10 similar but different answers. My personnel are taught to position the pumper in a way so as not to block the ladder companies. I also teach them to position where the fire is going and not necessarily where it currently is. E-14 was positioned in a manner to cut off the horizontal spread of fire from reaching the attached houses. This was accomplished by using the deck gun in conjunction with 2 attack lines. The position was very effective as evidence of the very rapid knockdown of fire.
Making the stretch:
I agree that the line should not have been stretched between the pole and building, and when we critiqued the call immediately afterward, that was emphasized. The guy pulling the line is new, and it’s his second time pulling the line. The video was a great tool for the critique.
Deputy Chief picking up the line:
E-14 had a father and 2 sons on the truck plus an unrelated driver. In my area and probably most of the North East, if you sit the nozzle down and walk away, you aren't getting it back. Yes, my deputy chief taught his son a lesson that I'm sure he won't forget. In most of my areas, chief officers & company officers wear white helmets.
Cantilevered mansard facade:
You are incorrect about the construction. From the center point to the left “B side” is block construction and from center to the right ‘D side” is wood frame. The facade looked the same but was actually 2 different construction techniques that we did not know until after the call. The left side with the block had through bolts with cable supports, and the right side had cantilevered wood with through bolts and cables. These things are dangerous, but everyone on the fire ground needs to recognize the collapse potential. The left side collapsed in a different manner than the right side, which had small localized collapses as opposed to the sudden massive collapse.
Forcing entry versus breaking windows:
These locks have key access on both sides, and we like to keep as much of the windows intact to minimize smoke and water damage to the uninvolved areas.
Operating under the facade:
Firefighting is an inherently dangerous profession, and operating near these facades is high risk. Everyone needs to keep alert for signs of collapse. We could have stayed home and been completely safe, but then the building and houses would have burned to the ground. The left side facade was a sudden collapse, and I agree that those personnel should have been away from the collapse zone. The expansion and contraction of the bolts and cables is most likely what caused the failure and collapse.
Thermal imaging drone:
I inserted the thermal imaging clip at the wrong time in the video. That clip was taken at the beginning of the call. All the technology in the world is useless if you don't know how to use it or interpret the information. The heat signature in the center is coming off the roof line where it was burning. We used that footage to determine we needed master steams on the roof fast. We had E-14, E-52 & Quint 51 flowing guns on the roof, and this was done very rapidly. We were fighting 35-40 MPH winds, which was causing embers to dump all over those exposures. 3 different guns from 3 angels using independent water supplies. Big water fast is why this fire was under control in less than 20 minutes with little to no interior damage to the buildings
I show a few different camera angles of the collapses in this video: ruclips.net/video/PMk3ggXD1Lc/видео.html
Howard McGoldrick
I’m very much appreciate your response sir. Thank you for taking the time to go through the entire incident. Hopefully, many will read this for a great perspective of what it’s like when you’re in charge I hope you noticed that I try to do my best to be as diplomatic, open minded, empathetic to the complexities of any fire, particularly when you’re not there, and don’t know the entire story. Some of the joking around, obviously is just for entertainment purposes, to keep people engaged. Much like yourself I do believe there is lots to be learned at any fire and sharing these things has tremendous educational value . If anyone can pick up one tip along the way, it may make a fire, go more smoothly, or potentially save a life. Some of my explanations, even regarding the second alarm wasn’t questioning your decision, but more about explaining how differently areas of the country operate. I wish you and your department well and thank you again.
Thank you for explaining this all. Great stop and great call for the 2nd alarm- better too much manpower early, than too little too late. Especially when dealing with all volunteer- you never know for sure how quickly you can fill out the box. Keep up the great work! 👍
as a truckie their forcible entry for the outward swinging door was good.. what i wouldnt have done was go in without a mask on once it was breached!
👩🏻🚒🪓🚪👍
That vasaud is very dangers. I was onscene when a L.A.county firefiter was killed and 2 other FF were pushed into the fire when it collapsed. That came out with miner injuries.🎉
Let me add another reason for blasting the sirens: To let the person(s) who called know you are coming.
I was the victim of a hit and run as pedestrian. Lying on the side of the road in pain from a broken leg I called 911. The dispatcher told me help was on the way, and I was intensely listening for a siren, but they responded with lights only.
Had they blasted the air horn on the fire engine pulling out of the station I would have known they were on the way, but because they didn't I laid on the ground not knowing if the ambulance was coming from the station only a mile away or if I was waiting for mutual aid coming from 15 miles a way.
I don't want to sound at all ungrateful or critical of the heroes that did respond, but it would have been a little less stressful for me if they used their sirens.
The primary purpose of a siren is to alert other drivers on the roadway to get out of the way, but it is also a way of letting stressed out victims know the "cavalry is on the way"
I am a probationary firefighter (volunteer) in Suffolk County NY and I really enjoy and appreciate all the info and insight in your videos. I had seen this before but your commentary was very interesting. Thank you!
Glad to help!
I enjoy your breakdowns. Having quite the wealth of structural firefighting experience myself, I find you are very typically on point. Good work.
I appreciate that!
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P.S Also watching your videos makes me excited to get out there and start working
Thanks. Enjoy your career. Remember it’s a privilege to do this job.
Great breakdown! Compared to some ops over here in my neck of the woods, they were a bit slow on the water flow, but once they got it going it was a solid knock and they all did a decent job.
Yes, and I stated in the original video wind was definitely a factor.
A few things right out of the gate, Bucks is far ahead of a lot of areas in terms of fire ground radio on both the dispatch and the user side, a big thing I ll give the Chief credit for “replace the companies that do not get out” no use of “hold off on further alerts” or “crewing up (just straight up your responding or your not)” that first arriving Quint needs to make up its mind, are you an engine or truck. What ever you decide you will be, do it and do it well. And kudos to the engine driver for verbalizing his concern for his positioning, that doesn’t happen enough in suburbia. As for the second alarm, when in doubt start it, they did the best of both worlds, started, assigned a staging point and a staging officer. Can’t fault that for a second.
I agree with 💯 of your critique. I would add that I would have wanted that engine to the left of the yellow line and started with the deck gun as the 2-1/2 or 3 was stretched OUTSIDE THE COLLAPSE ZONE. I would also have the ladder up and ready to be used for roof access or elevated master stream if it had extended into the building. The second ladder could have been used to open up the soffit from the ladder, using a chainsaw or circular type saw.
They were very lucky nobody got hurt. Good fast knockdown by “the dad”.
As the officer of the first engine on scene we dropped in a 5 inch line and lead off with a 200 foot 1 3/4 line a 150 foot 1 3/4 line and a roof mounted deck gun with in the first 5 mins on scene.
@@mikeferguson8251 thanks for the reply. Not a bad plan of attack. Hindsight is always 50/50 and it’s always easier to command a scene after the fact from one’s recliner! LOL!
I add comments because I believe that we all can learn from different perspectives and experiences. I’ve had some very successful fire attacks and some not so successful (like “what was I thinking” ones, 😆).
Good job overall!👍
So as a responding firefighter I have a few comments. First thing is in the county white helmets signify chiefs, deputy chiefs, assistant chiefs, battalions chiefs, or captains. The second alarm was hit 1 because of the time of day to have manpower there ready to go and two the second alarm was to report to staging area. The fire did in fact burn the roof of the building and into part of the building. The Chief knew the layout of the building and didn’t wanna take a chance of loosing the entire corner so he wanted to be the next step ahead. Also the wind that day was ripping in the area and it was about 15 degrees outside.
Yes, I think I initially stated they did a pretty good job. I also didn’t question the second alarm. I was just explaining to some (lots of young guys and probies watch these). who may not understand that second alarms all around the country are vastly different things. Thanks for the explanation on the helmets. That’s not something I’ve seen in my career.
One thing I learned...non-combustible structures are amazing.
Agreed on all points brother! Basically you would think you were rolling up on a mansard type roof not a façade and that had the potential to take a bunch of members out.
debri fall on the line
I hate dry cleaners! All that fuel hanging in free air.
A lot of those little "Pizza Hut" eaves are gingerbread tack ons and are added onto buildings in dubious ways. I hate walking under them any day. The fire along the edge of the building scares me too. Some older construction has the stringers, joists just laid into brick pockets. That front work was hung there on nails. Who woulda guessed?
Yes all volunteer fire departments
The first officer arriving can see there is a fire in the parapet. They would not know the origin at this time. They need to get water inside the parapet fast. No roof work and no inside work. You also have a collapse threat to consider. Those parapets are tacked on, not built in.
You hit that burn through area with a tight cone of tank water that will send the water laterally along the length of the parapet in both directions.
Access holes will need to be cut to check for extension. This can be done from the roof after the fire is knocked down. You'll need to check the ceiling inside also.
Now, to review their performance. Firefighters in general have to stop being mesmerized by flames and smoke. Applying water along the top of the parapet is going to accomplish nothing. You have to focus on the burning material. They had direct access through those one foot square holes in the soffit.
Overall, I saw no sensitivity to the possibility of collapse. I think they will be more sensitive from now on.
Thanks for the comments.
Agree on the line stretch. Assuming it's a cross-lay, ideally it would have been pulled from the engineers side to create a larger arc. Also, it's a triple layer load, meaning once he cleared his nozzle bale that engineer should have hit his ass with water ( and Dad couldn't have taken his line, haha). The line will clear itself into a nice fat S shape, that is why we use the triple layer. All of that flaking was unnecessary if he had positioned the line correctly first.
I don't know why it takes so long in these videos for the engineer to get his truck into pump and supply the first line. They've got at least 500 gallons to start.
Triple layer load? That the same as a Trifold? I suspect it is. I have use that. Typically fine for stretches that are away from the engine. It can be problematic if you are on a city street with a few steps to the front door.
I saw they had a long "apartment trifold" as I learned it where it is needed to run into apartments. not so nice when you have to waste spaghetti at the curbside, it is just life there, you can't cover everything but I was really rooting for that water to flow faster.
I was on this fire.
All the departments on scene are %100 volunteer.
hi can you tell me what makes their radio sound like they're talking in a can, I listed to fdny and they are loud and clear, you here that allots in police and fire department almost like they have a rag in their mouth
Happened in the next town over from me
More apparatus and manpower
After you see enough fire videos from this area of the country...Penn.....you'll notice "white hats" coming out of the either space grabbing nozzles away from "black hats".....maybe fewer chiefs and maybe more Lt's and Captains......
So all officers wear white helmets?
@@TransmitThe1075 For the most part....very top heavy.....
@@TransmitThe1075around here. In bucks county, chiefs wear white helmets
John where are you a firefighter from ?
@@TransmitThe1075I’m the UAV, thermal drone, Pilot for the Croydon Fire Company. I would be happy to answer any questions on its use in regards to this incident and in general.
One more thing: using the deck gun would have helped to open more of that soffit and might have knocked it down before it fell.
I would have busted out the window in the door, too. This is from experience with a similar situation. (I waited, with nozzle in hand on air while 2 guys were trying to force entry with the irons…with a big floor to ceiling window directly adjacent to the door)!
We must keep in mind that while we are preparing to enter and attack, the fire is generally doubling every 30 seconds. There’s no time to waste.
Great analysis.
Stay safe folks!
I know everyone on the foreground is a firefighter....but.....when they get their white hat they don't have to respond to the station to make the truck they drive to the scene and swipe nozzles....
Assuming the firefighters have the competency to perform the duties required, they should be doing the work, and the white hats should be leading. That’s the whole idea.
I was the white hat. I was riding the front seat of the engine the guy that pulled the line had a problem with his equipment that’s why I had the line. I did not take it from him.
Which is better, a truck with 6 white helmets riding on it or a truck that does not get out? In the volunteer world, there are too many chiefs who think going to the station to get the truck out is beneath them.