Yes Willie, its a huge frustration for middle of the road kiwis, when we have to deal with maori wanting special rights, more and more payouts and promoting diveristy
Don't put us all into this lot. I believe in technology. I believe in modern science (not fast tracked jabs though). I believe in everyone working and contributing for all. I belive in a good education (we no longer have that). No partnership, my ancestors signed up to having the same rights as every British subject. That's what we have. End of. Stop the gravy train.
@@allanlange2263 nobodys admitted that, they've said they're over represented in terms of negative outcomes, that's not even close to being the same thing
Māori seek justice under te Tiriti, you know - we owned this country, we were an independent state recognised by George IV and it was *illegally confiscated*. Just because of the passage of time, doesnt mean the criminal i.e. the Crown, gets off scott free, Māori are still here and have pre exisiting rights
Always fascinating to watch Jack interview Willie like this. Willie occupies a unique position in NZ politics. One of the last Maori Labour MPs who survived the sackings of the last couple of years, he's increasingly having to pick up more of the slack. He's squeezing himself harder as he both ra-ra-s the growing Maori identitarian movement while simultaneously slavishly towing the establishment party line. Every interview is tragic and hilarious. There's that breathing in through the teeth to relieve stress. There's that performative laugh that fails to mask his hostility when under pressure. We get to watch him wriggle with denials, attacks and self-contradictions into a diminishingly tiny crevice.
Also have to wonder where the 500 million went for the separate health authority, that coukd have funded alot of cancer drugs, they should do an audit on where the money went and show the public.
The list of 13 drugs was from a report by the Cancel Control Agency in 2022 and contained drugs used in other countries but not in New Zealand. In some very lazy campaigning, National used the list to win votes. The list contains 5 drugs that are not of interest to any clinician and others that have been superseded. Any new drug finding should be reviewed with current information. A party or elected government shouldn't choose what drugs to fund, Pharmac should. Politicizing pharmacological decisions is crazy and cruel IMO.
Willie was the government minister and completely useless,what good come from him, more money wasted by labour,greens Maori tea party and we are now paying for his useless government
This man is divisive. Need to listen closely to his talk. Note: He talks as if is a given that the crown (Parliament) and Maori are in partnership. That's an error straight away!!
@@stephenlennon7369 When Maori signed the treay of Waitangi, Māori gave complete sovereignty to the British Queen. Sovereignty means absolute and total control of everything. Māori gave the British total and complete control of the country. Period..!
@@barrybrown-sharpe4881more rubbish ask any historian they'll say what I'm saying the Treaty is like a marriage it's not a contract there was no ceding of sovereignty you are listening in an echo chamber of your own prejudice. The 1852 constitutional ACT was a breach of the Treaty it didn't give Maori no voting rights and it gave no reference to the TOW!! That was a breach.
Your a racist. Jump up and down pleading you know Maori and your not. You are. What's more and this is a big requirement of racism , your an ignorant idiot. Enoho ra
@@barrybrown-sharpe4881No. You may need to check that out a bit better you ignorant nasty racist. How do you think we do what we do? Because you let us . Idiot
Willie, at least have the decency to use david Seymours first name. You refer to others using their first names. Your personal issues are obvious. Try to be more professional ?
Do people know that Maori Iwi business entities like Ngai Tahu, pay no tax? They are registered charities. Even though they make 100s of millions from business like the tourist attractions in Rotorua.
Did you know the Catholic Church pay no taxes yet the rob the poor rape their children and are worth trillions? Worst of all just like your king, lie and say Almighty God gave them the authority. Your a jealous racist.
I remember a phrase from reading Animal Farm when I was in secondary school, " Some animals are more equal than others." The good old days of the pre-woke curriculum.
Why once again. Why are you expecting more rights and monies for Maori and extra benifits. We’re all New Zealanders and we should all have the same rights, monies and privileges no matter where you are born or what race you are. If you’re a New Zealand citizen or a permanent resident.
There's no mention of partnership at all. Liar If the treaty so clearly states Maori are special then any issue regarding the treaty bill should not worry a confident case. Why are Maori worried because they know they not INDIGENOUS they came on WaKA that their history and there were people here when they arrived Shut down this lie and scam
Your understanding of the treaty is woeful bud. The crown prepared this treaty bro. The Maori didn’t The crown saw that the Maori were fiercely defending the land. They were not wanting a century long battle and they were getting their bums kicked in battle. Co sovereignty was the agreement. Read more bud.
Indigenous Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native endemic local domestic 2. (of people) inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists.
@@poerava it is you who is ignorant bud, article 2 "same rights and duties" Read Ngata, or Pomori or Buck. Read what your elders had to say, understand the treaty has been part of NZ law LESS years than it has not been part of our law, Understand that this is for a reason, because of the division it has caused, it's part in inciting Maori and starting the musket wars. We need to unite as one people and build one nation, and put this seperatist, racist victim card stuff behind us all
@@J.Smith-rc6whrubbish Ngata said a lot of things that wasn't true and they were politicians not historians. Yous need to learn our country's history not pakeha bigotry.😅
@@jemma_19988Partridge up your pear tree telling Maori to not dare touch your rotting fruit on the ground no doubt. Because you have a perpetual lease on their land? No. Well then. Don't assume. Then wild assumptions won't come your way Karl
Pakeha ripping off everything everywhere in everyone's country. The world's nit dumb. Everyone knows and even you know your a back of criminals with wigs and robes like goods at Halloween. Who knew? Well the entire world knows now. Which side do you want to be on. Recieving stolen goods isn't a defence anymore.
The treaty was not about partnership in having two governments. Māori rights are clear in the treaty. The running of NZ is the government's responsibility. The government want to remove their responsibility made under the treaty. And keep the other half of the agreement "that Māori give the crown sovereignty"
In this interview Willie was getting sidetracked with trying to point out National broke their promise on cancer drugs because they haven't done it in the first six months. As long as they find funding for these drugs sometime while they are in office they will keep their promise. The Labour govt didn't provide the very same cancer drugs in 6 years (this is hippocratic) and achieved nothing, they didn't build homes, they printed money they didn't have and created massive generational debt and inflation, they created huge societal divisions, they centralised more power and authority than any other govt before, every major portfolio saw their metrics worsen while employing 40% more people for less results while we tax payers are paying their wages (and yours) and to then suggest they [Labour} did more than any other govt in the last 20 years, well Willie if a severe spanking at the polls was not enough to snap you out of your previous delusions then I think there is little hope of you ever being in charge again.
"Do you agree that all citizens being EQUAL is a fundamental democratic value... Does the the Treaty afford different rights for different people? [Willie: Absolutely]... How are those things consistent? [with EQUALITY].... Willie: We all have equal rights in certain areas... Willie: But Maori have a SPECIAL indigenous right😂 Willie gets this idea from Animal Farm by George Orwell...that Maori have special rights... So one Partner is not as Special as the other. 😂 What did the chief pig in Animal Farm say" "Some of us are MORE EQUAL than other's. 🤣. What a bloody laugh!
You forget the Te Tiriti is not a democratic document. It underpins the democracy, since it is how the Monarchy reigns. Take that away, democracy is gone, because your right to be here goes with it.
@@shauntempley9757 If you wanna play the race card about my right to be here... My Great Great Grandfather is a Rangatira of Rarawa Tribe in Mitimiti in the Hokianga. I say is... because although he has long passed into eternity, he was wise enough to know that we are ALL just passing through to another place.... and we are stewards of the land. We do not possess infinitum. If anything we possess it by the grace of God (Atua) He (Atama Paparangi) lives on in another realm with his Saviour Christ Jesus (Karaiti) who he and our whole Iwi accepted. It was not just for the sake of literacy... or some kind of coercion. He saw the Good News for what it was... and understood the God of the Bible as one his people already had concept of in the form of Animism. But change comes with greater understanding and revelation. It also allowed us to lay aside some very unsavory practices. But being stewards of the land, we should also understand that change comes as it did for Maori through conquest or immigration or treaty. There are very people groups throughout the earth that are the original occupiers of any given land. I have the Whakapapa if that is a necessity of qualification. But even though I was born here, which in itself is a birthright, I will not go back to the separatist tribalism of the past that is promoted by Te Pati Maori. We were killing one another with tribal divisions of our own. We don't need yet another separation with either Pakeha... or other races, people who were born here, and have nowhere else to go. Sir Apirana Ngata, Sir Maui Pomare and Sir Peter Buck saw the Treaty of Waitangi as a uniting document, not a separatist document... "One nation, one people, closely knit people, a people of singular contentment, a people of a sense of trust and mission... above all we must work together." Sir Peter Buck. This is my nation and my people. I won't disenfranchised by people who do represent the hard won peace and unity of what the Treaty REALLY represents. There are to be no privileged race. We are made one people under this Treaty.
@@shauntempley9757correcting my grammar... That is to say: "I won't be disenfranchised by people [Te Pati Maori] who do NOT represent the hard won peace and unity of what the Treaty REALLY represents."
@@haweavivian48 That is immaterial. You still do not have the right to change that document because you do not want to do what it says. Anymore than you have the right to continue to do what has been done to undermine it. Your fear that we will do to you what was done to us is your problem, and a fear that is common for every white people that dominates others. If you are that ashamed of a nation that has the only document in world history that established a nation by Treaty, with terms you despise, then what does that say about you wanting to remove it, and join the rest that don't, and risk permanent war with those that still live here? I do not want to die an old man with my Maori people going Hamas or IRA in response to this happening in a total war to take full control of the nation, and expel or kill off everyone not Maori.
willies tated it so clearly, the interpretation, meaning someone has interjected their idea of what simple english means, adding their own personal thinking into a document which does come close to their idea, this is why the principles need defining or have them stripped away and go back to the original meaning of the treaty, in reality it is a very simple document and was at the time well understood, by both cultures,
Once again very disappointed in you Jack, when willie Jackson. Why did you ask him about the massive debt he left the country in the 1 billion upper funded tp farmack Nz rail massive under funded, come on Jack. Ask the right questions
We need to set up a 2 tax system. 1-Maori 2- balance of country 83%. Each tax base supplies everything 83/17. Police service , roads, military, education till 18.etc. for criminals in jail payed from which ever side they are from. Dole paid out of each side according to use. Per capital paid for hospitals etc. would make both sides accountable and neither crying foul from being taken advantage of. User paid by your tax party and voting
I agree with NZ first interpretation of the treaty. One country, one people with many different ethnicities. New Zealand, New Zealandrs. No partnership has worked in any country in the world and it won't work in New Zealand. The majority will rule.
Ae Willie keep the doors open and talk to find resolutions..maori can do it on the marae, im sure they can do it in the house, as for you Jack let Willie answer your questions without you butting in..i wanna hear what he has to say.
It's hard to resolve with racist. This comment section and many like it don't even want Maori to have a door let alone speak. Negotiate is a two way road. Problem is ours is on a Perpetual Lease
Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go.
@@jemma_19988 No, democracy is underpinned by that document. How many times do you have to be told, remove Te Tiriti, your rights go to. Maori are the sovereign people. Deal with it. You do not like that, then that is your problem.
@@jemma_19988 Does that sound like co-governance to you? Or bigger gang intimidation and extortion? I'm 24th generation. Should we offer all those New Zealanders less than 10 generations here tickets to finally go home?
Honestly just the image of this guy ( jack tane) indictates tainted media, With Willie Jackson in the mix a bloody rediculous conclusion of total bullshit rethoric ...
I enjoyed watching Jack n Willie.. go jack for reminding willie of the gutter excrement from Mariameno KKk.. " mission to exterminate Maori " no no no but jack... THE WILLIE SIDE STEP of the slippery silver belly EEL....
Matariki means nothing to me Willey apart from Maori giving us white colonists' a day off thanks for that anyway, looking forward to see how crook the vote system happened on the Marae I should have turned up for a free KFC or Mc Donald's
He’s right about what the treaty means, yet what is Willie Jackson’s problem with thinking he needs to talk as fast and talk over Jack when Jack is doing follow up questions? He should listen to Chloe. Listen to the question. Pause. Confirm their question. Then friggin answer it. Then stop friggin talking and listen to Jacks follow up question.
Man I always like Willie aye, he talks a lot of shit from time to time and sometimes I find him completely unfair but I like him. Miss the days when he was on the radio with John Tamihere, they way of debating was neat and refreshing. Peace ✌🏻
"silver tongued devil" Willie is funny, but his ideas would have us in a bad place where people are judged based on their race, as for Tamihere, why does he spend so much on lawyers and courts?
I like what Willie said about the heat going on Maori, when equal heat should be spent on political lobbyists and those who fund Act, NZ First? Also like he gives voice to not just Maori, but those who are disabled and less well off. As some of the comments indicate, there's a bunch of disaffected people in NZ who find Maori easy targets, naive about how their political masters Seymour and Peters play them for their own ends, who think that people like Tame share or have any respect for racist attitudes or comments, mistakenly believe fair but hard questions are patsy.
This is one shifty giy. Always has been - stretching back to his dodgy days as a concert promoter in the late 80s - and always will be. His body language just drips of making things up to cover the truth.
Willie playing the victim oh so well because the gravy train has stopped lol
Who could fund a Maori parliament?
How about the billions of dollars of profit made by iwi last year alone?
there was a signed agreement.
with the goverment.
so yes
Already spent on suits and BMW’s….
@@gary3074 you mean spend it on sushi,caviar lamb racks and expensive wines for see more greed,and ripstorpher luxor..
TPM is all bluff and bluster. So is Willie for that matter.
@@DerekReeve-q4v so are you,
you must be the 🃏 lollllll
What bloody hypocrisy from Jackson.😊😊😊😊😊😊
We want funding for Māori paid for by all New Zealanders…. How about just help people based on need
Funding based on race is called apartied, and it has failed in every country it has been tried
The most moronic comment of 2024 and you have 40 thumbs up that share your stupidity: NZ statistic state Maori are the ones in need, retards
We could means test nz super for a start if we want to talk about funding to needy
Everybody knows that Maori in NZ contribute a very low tax take.
Then they wouldn't retire @@allanlange2263
Yes Willie, its a huge frustration for middle of the road kiwis, when we have to deal with maori wanting special rights, more and more payouts and promoting diveristy
Don't put us all into this lot. I believe in technology. I believe in modern science (not fast tracked jabs though). I believe in everyone working and contributing for all. I belive in a good education (we no longer have that). No partnership, my ancestors signed up to having the same rights as every British subject. That's what we have. End of. Stop the gravy train.
@@stevend3323Respect
@stevend3323 if Maori have the same rights , why does the police , justice and heth ministries admit, they have racial bias which hurt Maori?
@@allanlange2263 nobodys admitted that, they've said they're over represented in terms of negative outcomes, that's not even close to being the same thing
Māori seek justice under te Tiriti, you know - we owned this country, we were an independent state recognised by George IV and it was *illegally confiscated*. Just because of the passage of time, doesnt mean the criminal i.e. the Crown, gets off scott free, Māori are still here and have pre exisiting rights
It's all about Willie' trying to save his future lifestyle
Always fascinating to watch Jack interview Willie like this. Willie occupies a unique position in NZ politics. One of the last Maori Labour MPs who survived the sackings of the last couple of years, he's increasingly having to pick up more of the slack. He's squeezing himself harder as he both ra-ra-s the growing Maori identitarian movement while simultaneously slavishly towing the establishment party line. Every interview is tragic and hilarious. There's that breathing in through the teeth to relieve stress. There's that performative laugh that fails to mask his hostility when under pressure. We get to watch him wriggle with denials, attacks and self-contradictions into a diminishingly tiny crevice.
Can't continue listening to this pillack
He talked about leaving parliament. Will prob be on the cards, must be hard on his health after his triple bypass.
Also, after a lifetime of 'serving Maori' on the taxpayer ticket, he is one of the richest labour MPs. Sure does pay well.
Very well written...
Ok willie why wasnt labour covering the cost of those drugs ?
Also have to wonder where the 500 million went for the separate health authority, that coukd have funded alot of cancer drugs, they should do an audit on where the money went and show the public.
The list of 13 drugs was from a report by the Cancel Control Agency in 2022 and contained drugs used in other countries but not in New Zealand. In some very lazy campaigning, National used the list to win votes. The list contains 5 drugs that are not of interest to any clinician and others that have been superseded. Any new drug finding should be reviewed with current information. A party or elected government shouldn't choose what drugs to fund, Pharmac should. Politicizing pharmacological decisions is crazy and cruel IMO.
Willie was the government minister and completely useless,what good come from him, more money wasted by labour,greens Maori tea party and we are now paying for his useless government
They didn't promise to,
@allanlange2263 no they wasted billions while kiwis died
This man is divisive. Need to listen closely to his talk. Note: He talks as if is a given that the crown (Parliament) and Maori are in partnership. That's an error straight away!!
Rubbish the Treaty is an international agreement between 2 sovereign nations you can't sign treaties unless you're a sovereign nation look it up
@@stephenlennon7369 When Maori signed the treay of Waitangi, Māori gave complete sovereignty to the British Queen. Sovereignty means absolute and total control of everything. Māori gave the British total and complete control of the country. Period..!
@@barrybrown-sharpe4881more rubbish ask any historian they'll say what I'm saying the Treaty is like a marriage it's not a contract there was no ceding of sovereignty you are listening in an echo chamber of your own prejudice. The 1852 constitutional ACT was a breach of the Treaty it didn't give Maori no voting rights and it gave no reference to the TOW!! That was a breach.
Your a racist. Jump up and down pleading you know Maori and your not. You are. What's more and this is a big requirement of racism , your an ignorant idiot. Enoho ra
@@barrybrown-sharpe4881No. You may need to check that out a bit better you ignorant nasty racist.
How do you think we do what we do? Because you let us . Idiot
I hope Willie himself believes what he said himself.
Willie, at least have the decency to use david Seymours first name. You refer to others using their first names. Your personal issues are obvious. Try to be more professional ?
Do people know that Maori Iwi business entities like Ngai Tahu, pay no tax?
They are registered charities.
Even though they make 100s of millions from business like the tourist attractions in Rotorua.
Did you know the Catholic Church pay no taxes yet the rob the poor rape their children and are worth trillions? Worst of all just like your king, lie and say Almighty God gave them the authority.
Your a jealous racist.
I remember a phrase from reading Animal Farm when I was in secondary school, " Some animals are more equal than others."
The good old days of the pre-woke curriculum.
You are a nasty, ignorant racist. Shame on you.
Willie knows which side of the bread is buttered on.
He’s special 😂
You mean the taxpayer funded gravy train?
@@stevend3323 Yes.
Wouldnt bother watching anything that Willie or is that Silly Jackson appears on or has to say.
Yet your here dimwit
Why once again. Why are you expecting more rights and monies for Maori and extra benifits.
We’re all New Zealanders and we should all have the same rights, monies and privileges no matter where you are born or what race you are. If you’re a New Zealand citizen or a permanent resident.
Nothings been equal for Maori. You stole cheated and lied back when and your still full of shyt to this very day. Ignorant, uneducated racist
There's no mention of partnership at all. Liar
If the treaty so clearly states Maori are special then any issue regarding the treaty bill should not worry a confident case.
Why are Maori worried because they know they not INDIGENOUS they came on WaKA that their history and there were people here when they arrived
Shut down this lie and scam
Your understanding of the treaty is woeful bud.
The crown prepared this treaty bro.
The Maori didn’t
The crown saw that the Maori were fiercely defending the land. They were not wanting a century long battle and they were getting their bums kicked in battle.
Co sovereignty was the agreement.
Read more bud.
You’re the only scam. Learn about it.
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@@poerava it is you who is ignorant bud, article 2 "same rights and duties" Read Ngata, or Pomori or Buck. Read what your elders had to say, understand the treaty has been part of NZ law LESS years than it has not been part of our law, Understand that this is for a reason, because of the division it has caused, it's part in inciting Maori and starting the musket wars. We need to unite as one people and build one nation, and put this seperatist, racist victim card stuff behind us all
@@J.Smith-rc6whrubbish Ngata said a lot of things that wasn't true and they were politicians not historians. Yous need to learn our country's history not pakeha bigotry.😅
Patsy questions from Tame.
You think so? I thought they were reasonably challenging.
What an insipid host Mind you with a name like Tame what would we expect
@@jemma_19988Partridge up your pear tree telling Maori to not dare touch your rotting fruit on the ground no doubt. Because you have a perpetual lease on their land?
No. Well then. Don't assume. Then wild assumptions won't come your way Karl
Such a racist.
your right i use to like Jack tame too
@@Londonman564Thankyou.
My view of Willie has dropped. Not that he would care. There was a reason Labour lost, they don't get why.
Another softball interview for Jack's favourites
Nice to know there is pre interview, . Jace Tane giving his mates a free ride. The previous government brought the media and told them how to report.
What a joke and dis service to NZ with unelected jokers
Get the new Maori Parliament/Governance to pay for it.
Maoris ripping off trusts, who would've thought?
Pakeha ripping off everything everywhere in everyone's country.
The world's nit dumb. Everyone knows and even you know your a back of criminals with wigs and robes like goods at Halloween.
Who knew? Well the entire world knows now. Which side do you want to be on. Recieving stolen goods isn't a defence anymore.
How to spot a liar in 10s......he's almost as deceitful as Tamihere.
And you sir are a lier and the receiver of stolen goods
The treaty was not about partnership in having two governments. Māori rights are clear in the treaty. The running of NZ is the government's responsibility. The government want to remove their responsibility made under the treaty. And keep the other half of the agreement "that Māori give the crown sovereignty"
This guy needs to be Investigated
How can someone so thick get into parliament and get so much media time
Giving himself a pat on the back for something he didn't do .What feeble nonsense comes out of his mouth .
Socialists are perfect, but reality sadly doesn't always accommodate their brilliance.
Willie talks so much bullshit
In this interview Willie was getting sidetracked with trying to point out National broke their promise on cancer drugs because they haven't done it in the first six months. As long as they find funding for these drugs sometime while they are in office they will keep their promise. The Labour govt didn't provide the very same cancer drugs in 6 years (this is hippocratic) and achieved nothing, they didn't build homes, they printed money they didn't have and created massive generational debt and inflation, they created huge societal divisions, they centralised more power and authority than any other govt before, every major portfolio saw their metrics worsen while employing 40% more people for less results while we tax payers are paying their wages (and yours) and to then suggest they [Labour} did more than any other govt in the last 20 years, well Willie if a severe spanking at the polls was not enough to snap you out of your previous delusions then I think there is little hope of you ever being in charge again.
Stutter stammer does not come across as credible
Willie is a confused soul he speaks with great contradictions
He;s a light weight, speaks a lot of verbal Rot,
Ohh Wille I do hope you watch this interview later on, how embarrassing for you
Thank God he's not in parliament
Bro just spluttered and stuttered his way through 20 minutes of pure lies and misdirection.
4:13 what has been cut? Housing support exclusive to Maori or housing support irrespective of identification?
Your an uneducated racist. Enoho ra
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Willie is maori...but loves his job more, that's why he's a fence sitter!
grifter and a light weight
So Kaka Willy. Big huge Kaka breath. U eminate Kaka
Never get tired of listening 👂 to Willie ❤
You like listening to racist bullshit?
racist maori
"Do you agree that all citizens being EQUAL is a fundamental democratic value... Does the the Treaty afford different rights for different people? [Willie: Absolutely]... How are those things consistent? [with EQUALITY]....
Willie: We all have equal rights in certain areas... Willie: But Maori have a SPECIAL indigenous right😂
Willie gets this idea from Animal Farm by George Orwell...that Maori have special rights... So one Partner is not as Special as the other. 😂
What did the chief pig in Animal Farm say"
"Some of us are MORE EQUAL than other's. 🤣.
What a bloody laugh!
"All animals are equal... But some animals are more equal than others!" What hypocrisy... What an indefensible double standard.
You forget the Te Tiriti is not a democratic document. It underpins the democracy, since it is how the Monarchy reigns.
Take that away, democracy is gone, because your right to be here goes with it.
@@shauntempley9757 If you wanna play the race card about my right to be here... My Great Great Grandfather is a Rangatira of Rarawa Tribe in Mitimiti in the Hokianga. I say is... because although he has long passed into eternity, he was wise enough to know that we are ALL just passing through to another place.... and we are stewards of the land. We do not possess infinitum. If anything we possess it by the grace of God (Atua) He (Atama Paparangi) lives on in another realm with his Saviour Christ Jesus (Karaiti) who he and our whole Iwi accepted. It was not just for the sake of literacy... or some kind of coercion. He saw the Good News for what it was... and understood the God of the Bible as one his people already had concept of in the form of Animism. But change comes with greater understanding and revelation. It also allowed us to lay aside some very unsavory practices. But being stewards of the land, we should also understand that change comes as it did for Maori through conquest or immigration or treaty. There are very people groups throughout the earth that are the original occupiers of any given land. I have the Whakapapa if that is a necessity of qualification. But even though I was born here, which in itself is a birthright, I will not go back to the separatist tribalism of the past that is promoted by Te Pati Maori. We were killing one another with tribal divisions of our own. We don't need yet another separation with either Pakeha... or other races, people who were born here, and have nowhere else to go. Sir Apirana Ngata, Sir Maui Pomare and Sir Peter Buck saw the Treaty of Waitangi as a uniting document, not a separatist document... "One nation, one people, closely knit people, a people of singular contentment, a people of a sense of trust and mission... above all we must work together." Sir Peter Buck. This is my nation and my people. I won't disenfranchised by people who do represent the hard won peace and unity of what the Treaty REALLY represents. There are to be no privileged race. We are made one people under this Treaty.
@@shauntempley9757correcting my grammar... That is to say: "I won't be disenfranchised by people [Te Pati Maori] who do NOT represent the hard won peace and unity of what the Treaty REALLY represents."
@@haweavivian48 That is immaterial.
You still do not have the right to change that document because you do not want to do what it says.
Anymore than you have the right to continue to do what has been done to undermine it.
Your fear that we will do to you what was done to us is your problem, and a fear that is common for every white people that dominates others.
If you are that ashamed of a nation that has the only document in world history that established a nation by Treaty, with terms you despise, then what does that say about you wanting to remove it, and join the rest that don't, and risk permanent war with those that still live here?
I do not want to die an old man with my Maori people going Hamas or IRA in response to this happening in a total war to take full control of the nation, and expel or kill off everyone not Maori.
Listening to Willie reminds me of Slipping Jimmy (Better Call Saul)..
willies tated it so clearly, the interpretation, meaning someone has interjected their idea of what simple english means, adding their own personal thinking into a document which does come close to their idea, this is why the principles need defining or have them stripped away and go back to the original meaning of the treaty, in reality it is a very simple document and was at the time well understood, by both cultures,
Once again very disappointed in you Jack, when willie Jackson. Why did you ask him about the massive debt he left the country in the 1 billion upper funded tp farmack Nz rail massive under funded, come on Jack. Ask the right questions
Is Whanau Ora for maori only
It probably is as 75% of their customers are maori or part maori or Europeans with an eighth maori
Wow that must help bolster your inner strength whilst you watch the sun rise and set in Aotearoa
Investigate Winnie Jackson
Probably the most astute statement I have heard from you Willy - yes we are all well aware of you & your views - to your detriment
We need to set up a 2 tax system. 1-Maori 2- balance of country 83%. Each tax base supplies everything 83/17. Police service , roads, military, education till 18.etc. for criminals in jail payed from which ever side they are from. Dole paid out of each side according to use. Per capital paid for hospitals etc. would make both sides accountable and neither crying foul from being taken advantage of. User paid by your tax party and voting
Ok south africa
I agree with NZ first interpretation of the treaty. One country, one people with many different ethnicities. New Zealand, New Zealandrs. No partnership has worked in any country in the world and it won't work in New Zealand. The majority will rule.
What a waste of time.
I think it's a good program and needs more because it exposed this guy and his gangs.
I'm grateful for it. Jack's getting better and better at these interviews. Perhaps the married life is actually benefiting him.
Listening to Willie talk rubbish is a waste of time, but I think Jack did well
Nice fluffy questions from our man Jack socialist Tame
Go away Jack. Surely better calibre than U to comment
What's the Maori word for spiv?
He needs a bib
Ae Willie keep the doors open and talk to find resolutions..maori can do it on the marae, im sure they can do it in the house, as for you Jack let Willie answer your questions without you butting in..i wanna hear what he has to say.
It's hard to resolve with racist. This comment section and many like it don't even want Maori to have a door let alone speak. Negotiate is a two way road. Problem is ours is on a Perpetual Lease
You are so good jack
Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go.
Because nz is a democracy Which means the majority decide which way the nation is run
@@jemma_19988 No, democracy is underpinned by that document. How many times do you have to be told, remove Te Tiriti, your rights go to.
Maori are the sovereign people. Deal with it. You do not like that, then that is your problem.
@@jemma_19988 Does that sound like co-governance to you? Or bigger gang intimidation and extortion? I'm 24th generation. Should we offer all those New Zealanders less than 10 generations here tickets to finally go home?
Honestly just the image of this guy ( jack tane) indictates tainted media, With Willie Jackson in the mix a bloody rediculous conclusion of total bullshit rethoric ...
Why do maori businesses only pay 17% tax ?
You would want the Maori bludge machine running a netball sausage sizzle
Your racist and you know it.
A good analytical interview Jack. Thank you
Yes, let's not go down that negative track, Jack. Let's not hold us accountable. What a lot of blah!
Yr comments kakajack
Now there’s modesty. Willie knows he’s way more popular than Hipkins, but still says Chris is the most popular politician at the moment.
I enjoyed watching Jack n Willie.. go jack for reminding willie of the gutter excrement from Mariameno KKk.. " mission to exterminate Maori " no no no but jack... THE WILLIE SIDE STEP of the slippery silver belly EEL....
The issues we're facing are a product of the previous Govt mandates and lockdowns impacting our economy inside and outside the country since 2020.
Jack why are you not interrupting incessantly like you do with everyone else?
Now, this is the time
Everyone is Māori and Pakeha like myself and Willie
??????????. Liar Willy.
Forced to report by whistleblowers
Legacy media forced to report.
Tame report from Jack.
You can do better.
Just admitted to bribing rnz and appointing 3 msmbers of the board of tvnz which explains why they're so left bent
Matariki means nothing to me Willey apart from Maori giving us white colonists' a day off thanks for that anyway, looking forward to see how crook the vote system happened on the Marae I should have turned up for a free KFC or Mc Donald's
😂🎉🎉🎉 KFC fest with Te Pati Maori 😆💯🫕
If u r a fair journalist, u must invite jacinda and ashley both
He’s right about what the treaty means, yet what is Willie Jackson’s problem
with thinking he needs to talk as fast and talk over Jack when Jack is doing follow up questions?
He should listen to Chloe. Listen to the question. Pause. Confirm their question. Then friggin answer it. Then stop friggin talking and listen to Jacks follow up question.
You're joking. Chloe motor mouth never shuts up.
How did NZ manage to get where we have in the world without so much or so little Maori imput..
we got silly willy jackson hmmm
Man I always like Willie aye, he talks a lot of shit from time to time and sometimes I find him completely unfair but I like him. Miss the days when he was on the radio with John Tamihere, they way of debating was neat and refreshing. Peace ✌🏻
"silver tongued devil" Willie is funny, but his ideas would have us in a bad place where people are judged based on their race, as for Tamihere, why does he spend so much on lawyers and courts?
Hipkins….”nz’s most popular politician at present “…that is a really sad state of affairs for nz🙄😏
Jack Tame is so good at challenging politicians. Definitely the best in the business.
Omg what a hypocrate.
I've lost count of Māori who hate Willie and Nanaia calling them either usless or Kūpapa's 😂
Con artist Willie
Ol’ Chinese Willie - who you gunna call Willie 👻
Proud? Give me a break
Theres more asian in nz than maori an pakeha😮
No kidding
I like what Willie said about the heat going on Maori, when equal heat should be spent on political lobbyists and those who fund Act, NZ First? Also like he gives voice to not just Maori, but those who are disabled and less well off. As some of the comments indicate, there's a bunch of disaffected people in NZ who find Maori easy targets, naive about how their political masters Seymour and Peters play them for their own ends, who think that people like Tame share or have any respect for racist attitudes or comments, mistakenly believe fair but hard questions are patsy.
Can't take the heat,get out of the kitchen
Perception will be reality
High on FANTA
Understand the Maori party frustration where they are coming from. But the Maori people need to move forward and on.
why must it be Maori who has to move forwards... Why not both of us move forwards together?
How bad is willie
😂he can fool some of the people all the time, he can fool all the people some of the time, but he can't fool all the people all the time.
Willie is always angry no matter what topic he talks about…
Labour...hey everyone LQQK over there ↩😂
😂😂 deflect deflect deflect. Standard Willie.
This is one shifty giy. Always has been - stretching back to his dodgy days as a concert promoter in the late 80s - and always will be. His body language just drips of making things up to cover the truth.
I’m Maori as, but I am hanging my head in shame with these shameless marrys
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