Winston Peters: Gang policy, co-governance, and donations | Q+A 2023
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
- NZ First leader Winston Peters joins Q+A with Jack Tame for an interview on a range of subjects, including the proposal to build a gang-only prison, co-governance, and donations made to the party.
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Man that was hard to watch. Winston if you don’t have the numbers off the top of your head, just say so. Why argue?
Are you hard of hearing.
I like winnie but I tend to agree
Exactly, it doesn’t hurt to admit that you don’t know something, voters don’t expect that you know everything as a minister, nobody does.
Such a rubbish interview, the entire objective by the interviewer was not to extract the purpose of policies, but rather smear the person being interviewed
the media has lost the plot...this gotcha regressive stly of journalism is outdated pointless most politicians will jst plead plausible deniability ....jst ends in a zero sum game were the audience is none the wiser
exactly purpose of policy wuld be nice 4 once instead of nit piking and then......gotcha!
How is it made to smear him if all of these points have validity? Winston and NZF clearly have a pretty shady past and are not in it for you
Always knew you were a Muppet Jack!
If he just answered the questions it wouldn't seem like that 😂
He needs to let WP answer fully and also not stir up old rubbish,unless you leg them answer fully.
We'd be there all week waiting for an answer and still have no answer😂
@@ALBYNHK1 It's the answer that Winston wants to give, not what Jack demands. Rude as.
@helenberry9082 well the show is called Q+A 🤣
Just as bad was the first leader's debate (I didn't watch the others after) where Jessica honestly cut both Chris' off halfway through first sentence EVERY TIME. These interviewers don't understand that I'm not listening to hear their questions... they are getting paid to interviewe for me to hear the given ANSWERS.
He didn't answer a single question!
@UlfilasNZ True, I'd think he'd be prepared on the numbers related to policy, but how do you answer a question like "How many people will receive care?" The numbers from today to tomorrow will differ, but yes, he should at least have had some vague numbers. Instead he refused to use vague numbers like with the "How many gang members in prison?" He explained that corrections couldn't give a definitive number. We've heard the palava about his member using the "you" phrase and he's explained it many times. We've all heard about He Poa Poa and he's explained about Jackson many times. I didn't know about the "vaccine post" but it seems he's explained it and corrected many times. Jack's interview, to me, was a nothing new burger delivered in a way that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
@@UlfilasNZ YEAH - IF THE INTERVIEWER WOULD LET HIM ANSWER .. !!
Winston tried answering, but Jack was Interagating - Not Interviewing. I'm disgusted by most interviewers in NZ MEDIA. Our Media is trying to influence our DEMOCRATIC ELECTION with Attack type interviewing. 1/10 for another Poor Interview ... !!!
Jack Tame is an interrogator now??
Or a bully.
Was horrible to watch
jack is genius I love it 😛
@@delinquentinparadise The bully was Peters. Wouldn't answer the questions and behaved like an arrogant fool.
you obviously didnt listen@@MK-oc4gt
Jacinda Ardern and 1 or 2 others slipped He Puapua through quietly a few days before the election no one knew about
This isn’t correct, & it was initiated by John Key
@@KiwiVonnie The first thing was comes up when you google He Puapua "He Puapua is a report commissioned in 2019" which is not even John Key was PM. I believe you mean the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples which was accepted by John Key's government in 2010.
@@KeithologyNZ yep & oops Mia culpa.
However, Winnie was Dep PM when the report was delivered to Govt in 2020 and he was involved in the process right up until then was he not?
@KiwiVonnie Liar
Not a huge fan of what National did in that area, but it was only co-management of local facilities, not the overturning of democracy as it is now.
@@dontcomply3976 liar am I!! 😡 wow that’s rich - what about your disinformation.
Co-governance is not co-management. We have had co-governance in Rotorua for a few years now, and the councils & mayor still run the city.
You are completely mis-informed about what co-governance is.
This interview was so rude , always cutting him off, and only asking something with the intention of trying to make him seem stupid … NZ media is so corrupt Winnie has that right , saw that during covid
Agree, The interviewer should learn some basics of respect
He has to or Winnie the poo will just ramble on about BS.
Winston!!!! You’re bloody fantastic!!!!! ❤😂🎉
Thanks Ross, Great to see two of us are on the same page for getting our country back 😇🤴🏠
Build it and they will come 👍 don’t forget Jack it will create Jobs as well
@@sox7784 I agree with you wholeheartedly about this.plus hey they might even get the job of building the Building that poison they are going to be housed in
Plus they don’t have to pay to stay Whereas if you are in an aged care facility it costs you big time so why is that Jack Tane Otehsps you would have been better to ask more intelligent questions such as thisThen we could have seen you as worth your money for interviewing like Winston Don’t mess with us seniors Jacket
Trust Winston as te only leader that we haVe To get our Country Back. Please don’t let me down Winston show the Jack Tanes of our world what integrity looks like You are the king maker we trust I. You or I do 😇✅👌🏼
This was a hit job by TVNZ to prevent WP from talking about the policies that are starting to energise the public into voting NZF. We see you Tame and TVNZ.!
100% Hit jobs so far Luxon Seymour and Winnie ... Nothing on Labour or greens and certainly NOT the Maori Party
Is an abhorrent way to talk to anybody!!
Right! We need our media to simply accept face-value answers from politicians and not make any effort to make them answer questions! It's like Jack had no concern about the comfort of Peters in this interview! He should be boiling him a nice hot tea, massaging his shoulders, and asking him the questions that matter like "Why are you so cool?" and "Is your policy as awesome as everyone thinks it is?"
Agree, Winston Peters has the working-class New Zealander at heart... unlike Labour, and Greens who have reversed the economy, and negatively affected the environment around us.
Jake Tame may as well just interview himself. Got all the answers...
well peters didn't have any fucking answers because he couldn't answer a single question.
Smart-arse little twerp.
😂
Wow, what an unprofessional interview. Well done Winston.
Winston has far too much life experience to be fooled by a young incompetent individual like Jake Tane A statesman being interviewed by a school boy and one that needs to look closely at where us career paths are heading in the future
@@denisewilliams454 he couldn't answer simple questions , he's too old and should be in a retirement home already.
@@javiermorande9290 That’s in your sad judgment opinion. Are you a Dr, and who. Gave you the right to make that judgement call based on him not able to answer Jack Tanes Ridiculous questions
I just hope when you get to Winston’s age . That someone doesn’t decide to put you into one of those. Waiting to die places. Because Winston is a long way off facing one of these facilities.
He had been the King maker 3 times now. He is still as strong as he was 30 years ago. Winston is one very intelligent man
Even if you don't agree with Winston the little 'mmms' from the interviewer tell you all you need to know about him
Jack this combat style has to be spread equally across all the parties otherwise I am sure to raise a eyebrow.
He wouldn't dare try and do this towards a Māori party leader😂😂
I think it is to be honest, the problem was winston keeps not answering the questions, and escalating things
No its jack trying to outsmart winston, who has been in politics way before jack was even born.
if u watch other interviews instead of being a dumb as shit reactionary ud see he does it with everyone ;)
@@waynepike4337 it’s not about outsmarting people, it’s about holding to account. You cannot have policies have zero detail behind them. Winston thinks he can because he knows people that vote for him don’t care about it
Im Maori and voting for NZ first
Same here
using the race card and your not maori you got proof?
@@stephenlennon7369 speaking like a true comment section veteran lol
Jack sounded like an interrogator than an interview. Jacks unconscious labor bias surfaces many times.
Poor interview tbh.
It's not unconscious, it's latent.
He simply showed peters to be the fraud that he is .
Thanks Winston for supporting aged care health workers. We are understaffed, overworked & underpaid & it's about time we give more respect to the aged care industry. Got my vote!!!
baffled you can support this guy after the absolute bullshit we're seeing out of him.
He wasn't lying when he said the media is corrupt, prime example with this coordinated attack . Go Winston
That is for sure. With a payment of $55. Million over 3 years sure. But you work out the numbers why wouldn’t the media and interviews try and discredit every other politician. Except the hands that feed the. Up until now. The red army. The one source of truth. Yeah right. If you believe that then you must still be asleep along with the many other people who went along with the mandates. Rolled up their sleeves and are now paying the price for not rocking the boat in their once prefect world of freedom Yeah right. They gave that up so easily. Our soldiers went to war. To fight for our freedom
Lest we forget. Jack Tane wouldn’t be able to speak freely about any topic. Let a lone rubbish he is worried about. When there are much more pressing problems to solve. The price of petrol, food etc
We have to be able to LIVE before worrying about the cost of keeping a prisoner. Maybe look at a cheaper alternative. Rather than focusing on the costing. Grow up Jack Tane and maybe next 3 year’s campaign you will have the chance to redeem this terrible interview Good luck with that
To be precise Winston Peters will be going after the media everything else he said was complete trash so freedom of speech corrupt.
I always thought hiding the truth breeds corruption
Oh wow! How dare the media ask questions like, can you please explain your policy in detail or... what's the cost of the policies that you're implementing? How dare politicians be asked to tell us how much of our money they are going to spending and on what on?
Our media's normally tame Winston Peters is lame.
they'd never do this for luxon or hipkins
Hard to listen to this. Jack Tame's arrogance and pompousness was an embarrassment! Disgraceful. No wonder why I no longer will watch MSM.
Yet your still here watching and complaining.
Jack is a great interviewer and is hard on everyone but Winston abused him because of his incompetence to answer a single question makes me question the intelligence of the NZ public for sure if this is what they took from this interview.
@@disasterbenz1904 Oh dear, someone's still fast asleep/unaware! 😳 Winston has his faults, as do we all, but at least he's awake and aware of the agenda to control us and take away all our freedoms. Hard to trust anyone these days in this crazy, corrupt world. BTW Just because someone has a different opinion, does not mean they are unintelligent. That's part of our freedom to choose. PS: And I was here to listen to Winston!
Way to go jack👍💯,
@disasterbenz1904 clearly your lacking in the intelligence department. It's a well known fact he's a arrogant little prick. Funny thing is he will be out of a job before long he was already warned before the election. No doubt if he had to join the real world it would end up like it probably was for him through school bashed regularly an shoved in a locker. As Is with most of the ones that act like him.
Hey Jack, how much did the big end of town benefit from the public interest journalism fund? Do you have any conflicts of interest?
This was tough to watch. On one hand jack was asking direct questions that werent being answered. Clearly winston didnt have the answers on costs and details which was disappointing. On the other I wish he let him speak more and moved on sooner. Minor parties dont get enough air time and we heard very little of any substance in the end. Winston does have a lot of good points about the direction of this country and how to address but we heard none of it due to the constant interrupting and needling.
Rhetoric is all well and good but if you don’t actually have plans and costings to put your rhetoric into action it’s all just bluster.
Quoting costs means nothing, costs always blow out and now considering inflation.
Facts. Especially if you are just a coalition partner who is reliant on negotiating with other parties. @@richardpeychers4076
Anyone who expects there to costing done on these projects is an idiot. It will depend on how the plan is developed. Talk about political questions from numpties.
@@richardpeychers4076 exactly, I don't understand why people can't see this. It's a puerile way to trip people up with questions that don't have exact answers, and when they bring up the influences of those costs, are told they are not answering the question.????? stupid
Winston Peters is the man!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love him or hate him Winston is back for a good reason. Nzers are tired of both Labour and National. If anyone really thinks National won't carry on the same way as Labour if they win then they are in for a shock.That's why its important Winston/NZF are in a coalition with Nats/Act if they win. He will stop Luxon moving to the left.
totally
I totally agree
@@StellaHoyles Thanks
@@helenberry9082 At the beginning of the campaign I was NO to voting for Winston. But Luxon and Seymour just haven't been effective in their campaigning.
@@user-te3jc3sl7rI agree, I came from the left this election, and wasn't considering National, considered Act, but David got silly for my mind. NZFirst policies aligns with me, and I like a sense of humour in politics, it 's underated by many, its a very good skill.
TVNZ should be completely ashamed with this interview. Absolutely disgusting how Mr Peters was treated. I will never watch TVNZ again, this was vile.
Agree, I only made an exception because Winston was on and a good orator, not given the chance.
I don't much like Winston but this has really exposed Jack Tame to New Zealanders.
Winston doesn't take bs, and you know in coalition he will resign before allowing the average Kiwi to be fleeced.
@@StellaHoyles Winston also changes with the wind, which is my main concern.
Interestingly I think it exposes someone else.@@KeithologyNZ
@@KeithologyNZ is that a bad thing? The world is constantly changing so shouldnt our politicians be aswell to keep up
@@katwallace585 In 2017 Winston said he would go with the party with the most votes, which was National and then went with Labour because he knew he would have more control with Labour than with National. But instead of saying that he has came up with the total lie about Bill English was going to rolled as Leader, which did not happen at all and he resigned nearly 6 months later by his own choice.
the guy interviewing him is rude, maybe he should of shut up and let him talk
The audacity of the host here is immense, asking dishonest and manipulative questions, then not allowing an answer.
Why does the host act as if he is authoritative? I'll smoke the kids jaw if he treated me thus
Asking the costing of your policy isn't manipulative as a taxpayer I would like to know the answers to this question don't you?
"much less than it is costing now" there you go,
Do your ears filter anything out that isn't a definitive fiscal number?
Because I heard Winston try to explain particularly what the costs would be, the purpose being that the cost would be apparent to us all and the logic can be followed rationally, you know working as a team sort of?
And, you have no critique of Jack for interrupting Winston when he's in the middle of explaining the very answer you would have me believe you would like to know? 😅
So emotional and defensive
the media has lost the plot...this gotcha regressive stly of journalism is outdated pointless most politicians will jst plead plausible deniability ....jst ends in a zero sum game were the audience is none the wiser
Yeah winston peters was so defensive. Jack didn't give up with his important questions tho, shame Winnie can't answer anything straight up
I'm no fan of Winston Peters but this interviewer was being overly aggressive.
@@benrobinson375 Winston was the only doing the threatening did you watch the end when he threaten Jack Tame of losing his job if he gets into power?
@@benrobinson375 Jack Tame is just an intense interviewer, all of his guests get the treatment. I admire Jack for being tough on these politicians and trying to get more than empty words from them
haha "if you would calm down for a second, take a Valium" that's gold :)
Go Winnie 👍Legend
The more the media take $50 Million taxpayers money from Labour and the more they spread Labour's propaganda the more I want to vote for Winston :) No one voted for Te Hua Hua or whatever it's called and no one voted for co-governance. I will vote for anyone that gets rid of it once and for all. Democracy requires that everyone is given equal rights and equal opportunities.
National was donated 15 million compared to labours 1 million. Who do you has more power to control the media???
@@youizradioDid you forget about the 55 million media got from Labour.
link please ? cnt jst spread misinformation@@youizradio
Well said
@@youizradioIt’s Labour that paid the media $55mil to spread their propaganda through the past 3 years. We can see how the media became their lackeys, just parroting their agenda and calling everyone racist, bigot, anti this or that. The MSM are parasites and should not get a penny of our cash so they can use it to continue to mislead and con people.
Very disappointing how Jack Tame kept interrupting him and not letting Winston finish. Shame on the so-called 'journalists' these days who clearly already have an agenda instead of being non-partisan!
watch his other interviews he treats everyone the same
He was trying to get actual answers of which were not being answered. Instead Mr Peters kept deferring with other nonsense
@@PapaBaushJack Tame was trying to argue with a highly trained lawyer. Had he asked questions that doesn't appeal to the leftists narrative. Winston is allergic to BS.
I’m no major fan of Winston but having looked at a range of his interviews with the others Tame is far more aggressive in this interview
There was no interview it was a hatchet job dictated by JT puppet masters
I've never seen a good interview when Jack Tame interviews Winston
Wouldn't even call it an interview. Jack is just rude and aggressive, trying to score points
Jack is just stupid and unnecessary aggressive. Yes, Jack, you are corrupt
Interesting.... I'd say he probably seems more aggressive because he's being met with hostility from Winston. I sometimes enjoy watching Winston speak, but I think what he did in this interview was BS. Rather than answering questions he just spoke over Jack for most of the time and was very uncomfortable to watch.
The World Health Organisation Pandemic Treaty, to which NZ is a party, will come in to force in May 2024. That treaty cedes much of our sovereignty to the WHO and allows them exclusively to make decisions about when a pandemic exists. At their direction, it will be legally enforceable that NZ must force vaccinations, mandates and all other forms of response including lockdowns, masks etc. Not one of the political parties is trying to stop this or withdraw us from this Treaty. We're done for. Dr John Campbell discusses this well in a you tube clip called WHO pandemic Treaty Danger. Well worth watching!
Oh my gosh. Why the hell did we not stand up again and insist that our local MP’s made sure this was a top priority for them to campaign on
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I wonder if VFF that Is voices for freedom know of this, and if they do why aren’t they making a difference and making the politicians start earning their salaries . By withdrawing us from this dictatorship organisation The WHOPT
We have still time to put pressure on these people at the top. Make them earn their votes now. Come on NZ take your Country back ✅
@@denisewilliams454 Winston Peters is now trying to address this. Hopefully he will be successful, but has a lot of opposition.
O m g thank you for bringing this to our attention Let’s take our country back. Make Winston work for my vote now. He is the King marker I am sure with his experience he can fix this one as well the ones he had already achieved this far in his negotiations wth Mr Luxton & Mr Seamore If VFF that is Voices for Freedom know about this then why haven’t we heard them putting pressure on or leaders to have us withdraw from this dictatorship organisation. The WHOPT Come on Winston earn my vote. Take NZ back. You are the King Marker. With your experience you should be able to achieve this. Along with what you have already achieved this far. Well done Winston the King maker 🤴
@@cpnurseries Great, thanks for that Ross. If anyone can do this then Winston is our man. He has been in much more turbulent negotiations with Jabcinda and her bunch of communist party. He has the experience on his side. If anyone can get NZ I feel sure we have the right man in the right place to do this,. Go Winston, you are a winner. You will have the backing o this one ☝️. Call in al, the favours. You can do this for us Winston I have faith bin you. As do all the people who put you there. Show us your stuff. What you are really made of Good Kiwi home grown stuff . We are proud of you Winston . Don’t let us down on this one. Ask for help if you need it. Let’s rally the troops 😇🤴
@@denisewilliams454 agreed on all points.
I've usually been a fan of Jack Tame, but this was a terrible interview. It was clear that he came prepared to specifically throw shade on Winston. Half of his questions weren't about policy but about past incidents. Even the policy questions were poorly constructed.
- Nobody knows how many inmates are involved in gangs. That number would be constantly changing. He could have asked for a ballpark answer, but his exact number would be terribly inaccurate. Plus there are lots of levels. Are you heavily involved, not so much, just in it to survive? It's a terrible question. To estimate the costs would also be tough, because things are constantly changing. How many government projects do we have that say a budget of 10m then it blows out to 40million.
- Aged care question was also silly. As Winston said, the number of people who can enter aged care relies heavily on the amount of workers available. His goal is to help get more workers which will then open up spots for people to get care.
- His point about the co-governance quote using the word 'you', umm can someone tell Jack Tame what personification is...SMH
NZF is hoping to be a coalition partner. They don't get to decide the exact levels of what they want to spend tax money on, but what they can do is say these are our policies and we will negotiate on how much money we need to help these policies. Jack was super aggressive and it was unnecessary. I'm surprised Winston didn't walk out.
Winston seemed ill prepared. Jacks done this to all the leaders of all parties (major and minor) so his style shouldn’t had caught someone as experienced as Winston so badly off as it did .. I think it’s fair that minor parties shouldn’t be put under the same level of scrutiny as the two major ones but Winston barely managed to pivot to talking points and couldn’t spit out a statistic to save his life..
Knowing Jack I think he would've been far more prepared than came across, but would've had to really cut down on how much depth he went in to when he realised how little Winston Peters was able to discuss his own policies
lol what were you watching? Winston continuously was offensive. Jack Tame was asking straight questions. Jake asks hard questions for all Parties.
- if you dont know how many people in prison are in gangs, how do you know how big the prison should be?
- asking about the amount is actually pretty reasonable given the unclosed financial hole in national's (peters' likely coalition parter) tax plan to ensure that the costing has been accounted for
- winston has been changing his story on this quote since the leader's debate; originally, it was talking about "māori elite", but now he's rescinded that and said that his member was talking about "co-governance". you have to agree, it makes a lot more sense to use the word "you" if you're talking about people, not an abstract concept like co-governance
@xanderpritchard8099 Bullshit all Woke assed Tame did was copy tv3s interview last night. Go have a watch of the interview Hadid with Shaw after this one, Oh it didn't matter that shaw couldn't give figures Tame was busy kissing his Woke ass while reaching round giving him a hand job.
Hope Winston gets that portfolio 😅
Winston is simply the best. Jack is on backhanders from Labour. Its obvious in the questions he ask. Blackouts on tv would help.
cant answer a single question.
@@paularthur7386 The Journalist, Jack is incapable of allowing for an answer. Ineptness, and arrogance from a taxpayer-funded, TVNZ journalist is unfortunately not the first.
It’s more about Jack than Winston that’s why people turn you off
Almost decided to vote for this guy;As I don't like both the parties this time. The best way to punish is to make them deal with this guy 🤣
He keeps them honest.
@@PhoenixSunsNZhe'll keep them busy explaining what he said wasn't what he meant to say or how that it doesn't reflect their policies... 😂
Winston Peters and New Zealand First will bring desperately needed balance to government, that's why I'm voting NZ First!!
Wish Tame would have similar pointed questions for the other small parties. Seems like he is trying to prove himself to someone.
The game and popularity has gotten to his head, such a punk
Ehh I'm no fan of Winston at all, but I can't help but think an interviewer should not show any bias. It was very obvious from minute one Jack had a game plan. I get where he's coming from for sure, and there's nothing wrong with pushing for answers at times, but eh.
That being said, you did show how some policies do not seem to be very thought out. That was very good and appreciated.
I dunno. I just wish interviews would be done in a way where the viewer gets to form an opinion on someone with all angles shown, instead of being fed information gathered in such a calculated way.
Ask some questions like you did, but let the guy finish, chuck in a few as to who their party are etc. Going attack after attack after attack leads to poor discussion
absolutely agree with you, he was on the attack from day one, Jack Tame is too stressful to listen to.
the issue here is that if you don't press winston, he doesn't answer the question - he just moves the question until he can use to it deliver a party line. he's someone who doesn't like his authority being challenged, and while it's stressful to watch most of the blame for that resides on him.
He's like this with all politicians, there's no bias
@@yahmom626yeah that's fair just finished the green one now. He was similar - although let him finish. But the green minister was actually being respectful and asking if he could finish, rather than acting like Winston was with insults. So I kinda get it. Nice to see he is at least trying to be fairly consistent with each person he interviews
@@yahmom626perhaps but it's just stressful to listen to and so not especially good for democracy.
They are doing that now, prisoners have been building small homes and prefabs
Why do you have a Nazi profile pic lol
Like your profile picture
@@PrawnAddiction Does it say I LOVE NAZIS ON IT ?
@@ronnymcdonald2543 your sick
Peter Williams is a professional journalist, Jack was terrible Journalist, his intentions was to dig up dirt and be vindictive, he even kept talking over Winston when he was making his point and didn't listen to him.
Have you not seen any other Jack Tame interview, he holds people accountable, no matter the party
Totally agree! We need more reporters like Peter Williams not these click bait labour lovies
Reporters who deny reality and push insane conspiracies? @@feesullivan3439
So we should hold people accountable anymore? Maybe jack should of asked him what his favourite beach is?
@@disasterbenz1904 People on this thread seem to think Tame's role is to blow their favourite politician
Wonder if he’ll ask Shaw lots of probing questions about why he lied about his CV?
His interview with Shaw straight after this totally showed his far leftie bias, totally different tone etc etc … unfortunately real journalism is long gone on MSM inNZ …
Perhaps you need to remember Winston's lied about the Glen issue & donations
TVNZ love the Greens too much to do that.
Didn't you watch the first leaders debate when Chris Luxton clearly stated that fuel won't increase in price during his term of leadership,so obviously he is an out & out liar,or he will be replaced by Nicola straight after election,or there will be another election within a month
I usually like Jack Tame but this was an absolutely terrible interview.
Jack's head is on the chopping block. About time, he can find a new job with Rebecca Wright.
I'm actually really disappointed in the lack of objectivity shown by the interviewer here. Also quite a different approach to Mr Shaw's subsequent interview. If you are going to grill them Jack, please grill them all the same. You leave yourself open to legitimate objections of bias.
Because James actually answers questions directly. Winston is near impossible to interview. All ego. If he cared about the public he'd focus on getting out useful information, not being petty picking apart questions he doesn't like without answering. It is infuriating.
clearly you haven't watched Shaw interview Jack grilled him more and got answers unlike Winston
@@stephenlennon7369Exactly
Jack likes to hear his own voice. He never listens.
I'm not a Winston supporter, but even a blind man could see how dishonest / disingenuous Jack Tanes questions were during this interview - That was simply a bunch of "Got Yah" questions that any professional journalist wouldn't be asking as the second the context was added Jacks question showed a clear bias against Peters and his party. I'm voting ACT so again I'm not an NZ First supporter and even I can see how biased NZ Legacy Media is towards New Zealand First, especially Jack Tane towards Winston Peters, that was disgraceful journalisum !
It's funny how asking a question about policies they've developed is somehow a 'gotcha' question. Jack asked some completely reasonable questions about the unclear parts of NZFirst's policies and Winston couldn't answer any of it, meaning they hadn't done enough research or planning in the creation of these policies.
Winston was hilariously unprepared, but it made for good entertainment nonetheless.
@@kyliec143 It's funny how you contradict yr own statement by saying " some reasonable questions" were asked ... None of the parties have been able to completely answer their own policies questions so that's a non starter argument ... The simple fact is Tane doesn't like Peters and many if not most of his questions were "got Yah" questions that lacked integrity and Tane refused to add context that would undermine his logic and line of questioning ... Tane is just another establishment mouth piece.
@@MattJenkinson Tane was completely disingenuous and an obvious establishment mouth piece which was hilarious.
@@costomame3895 Oh come on, we all know Winston is a prick, he's always been a prick and will never stop being a prick ... Jack didn't ask hard questions, he purposely left out context in his questions so he could drive a certain establishment narrative. Tane is just another government funded fake journalist like all the rest of the legacy media in NZ.
It seems we've gone from pixie dust to bull dust in space of one election cycle.
The fact that woke tvnz hate nzf so much is good reason to vote for them
Lol that's actually a really stupid reason
Agree, It clearly shows NZ First is doing the right thing, when mainstream media is desperately pulling every lever to try to bring them down. The people of NZ see this, and at election time will vote with their conscience.
Prisons are an industry. The prison industry has been privatized. Privatizing the prison industry means investors and corporations are involved, which means they can buy land and build Jails. This means every prisoner here in NZ is stock on the shelf. These investors don't want the stock to leave the shelf but want it to be replenished daily. They don't want crime to decrease but build their hopes on crime-centred communities. They only care about their profit. They are a cooperation based on profit. Their goal is to profit from crime. The prisoner is the tenant, and the Govt pays their rent. They don't want to decrease crime, increase family values, or strengthen the family with stable two-parent homes. This idea, this ancient value based on sound principles of healthy whanau, is the greatest threat to crime and prison growth. These corporations want our fathers, mothers, children, and grandchildren to feed their needs for long-term profit. Every Govt has a way to deal with crime: That is to feed our children into the cells of cooperative depravity. No one is talking about saving the whanau. Instead, the Govt wants to kill our babies through passing laws to kill them in the womb. The whanu is being destroyed by legislation, and as long as the government keeps it there, crime will always be big business. Revering this is easy, but wanting to do it is impossible.
so y do murders only gt 5yrs ? thi k u r thinking of american
Revering this? Reversing this? Edit please.
Wiri prison has a lower reoffending rate than the state run prisons, we incentivise the provider to lower recidivism rates in NZ
@@benjamin2629got proof?
Luxon will have shares in any new prison being built, nice earner for him and his mates
Go WP cant wait until TVNZ is restructured
Jack Tame is very full of himself I prefer Ryan from AM show
Ew ryan is the worst. Jack tame is a good interviewer. Winston is rude and hates to be challenged on his stupid policies
@@russellwestbrook6938 that's who he is on the inside, little kid , with a young adult body disguise.
The "interviewer" does not acknowledge the obvious merits of the rehabilitive and anti coercive recruitment aspects of the proposal but tries to invoke a spurious fiscal bogeyman argument.
Isn't Winstons whole campaign this election not entirely aimed at idealogical "bogeymen"? Transgender people, Jacks supposed "Masters", rack up the votes of the fringe far right etc
how about give prisoners skills to build us houses.nevermind building prisons...
I think this guy is a terrible interviewer I’ve watched him with many politicians. Not impressed. They can’t get there answers out
I could not perservere watching this. Minor parties will not have everything costed. He could have been given a chance to express his policies. We are so close to the elections, Jack could have prioritised listeners and let us actually hear Winston Peters speak.
I agree
But media doesn't respect New Zealanders enough to let us decide for ourselves
Wasn't interested in listening at all, only preloading his next defamatory question/ accusation
Exactly. Tane's line of questioning was purposefully antagonistic. He has the respect of a gutter mouse and the questions served absolutely no purpose except to foster support for Labour and away from NZF. I think it might have backfired ...
JT was doing doing what his puppet masters want him to do but the public know this and see through it
THE FACT That NZTV PAID by the labour Government is trying to do an obvious "HITJOB" AGAIN.... on Winston makes me want to vote for him....What The Media doesn't want ...is probably we we need
Agree!
Exactly 💯
Correct.
My thoughts exactly, why are they so desperate?
there's a difference between a hitjob and asking how much stuff will cost lmao, NZ First supporters are clearly professional victims
the answer is simple, make a deal with Thailand, pay them to house N.Z. prisoners in their jails, they wouldn't want to go back.
Jack needs to understand more about the people he's interviewing if he wants to be effective in his job and get the most out of the interview.
He obviously was aiming to make Winston look bad, and that is not what I want in media
@@helenberry9082 These are all questions worth hearing the answer to, though? He only looks bad because he wasn't answering them
@@helenberry9082you must be blind . He was trying to get Winston to answer questions that clearly he couldn’t . For once someone is prepared to grill these lying politicians who are on huge money at our expense and your still not happy lol😂
@@deanwitt7903 Politicians spouting ball park figures... figures can be way ,way out of from the actual costs . Their job is to balance the books and try and live up to their aspirational projects given the circumstances at the time, what catastrophes the country is experiencing, market forces here and overseas, They are still not going to be accountable even if they say a ball park figure, so what is the point. the answer is, "it depends on " which is what he was trying to say.
@@nickdale6660I understand, but what he was trying to say, was it's very difficult to come up with a 'credible figure', because of all the variables to take into account, such as..... but Jack wouldn't let him talk about them. What influences the figures changes the figures. I have little tolerance for main stream media , since Albert Park and since I realised they are in the pocket of Government and not truth seekers. I could be biased haha.
"They hid the report from me." "We were all off campaigning." Mr. Slopey Shoulders.
In all honesty. Nat won't show numbers for their $4billion. Lab won't show numbers for their $12billion. Each party is shit. Just vote for the one that gives the most entertainment and tells the best lie.
@@mvb88 It's not about the campaign promises. He effectively said, I didn't know about the co-governance stuff because I wasn't doing my job.
@@crmagsno you don’t understand. You wait for a report, they seldom come back on time, and in this case those who had the report have admitted hiding it from him. It’s not like it was his fault or his role to know. That’s just how things work in the real world.
@crmags let's be honest. Labour is hardly very godly. They are as shady as any other party. As I said. Come election day. You don't vote for who tlyou think will be the best prime Minister. You vote for who told you the best lie. I vote Winston and and I know he lies. He's just entertaining when he walks in the room and the other party's go into instant rage mode before he even talks
@@mvb88 one party being shit doesn't mean your expectations for the rest should be lowered. Might vote for someone who told the best lie but definitely not voting for someone who can't do the job.
winston is right let crims work gain skills and contribute heaps do nothing in there except knock eachother over or learn more crime or try to get one over the screws keep crims busy
The people of NZ are to decide! Not media
This!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this an intervew or interrogation? From the beginning of this WP is being pushed into a corner. The public don't care about what it costs they care about the philosophy or high level direction. The questions were not thought through and constant interjections are tiresome slanted to attack. Winston should have walked off the set.
He’s asking basic questions about policy of a politician who currently is on track to be part of the govt. it extremely important that voters are equipped to make the best decision with as much info as possible and this interview shows NZF has no policy detail
@@jame2433 Agree but neither does National, and or their policies are not costed accurately because they are in opposition the cannot see the detailed forecast and current spends. You are voting on the high level approach not details which are determined by government as a whole not one specific party.
@@TB1M1 kind of agree with you to a degree, but Nationals costings should actually be better than they are regardless of what the reality is. If their policy in theory doesn’t even add up that’s a problem, and it’s the same with NZF, at least do some modelling based on OIAd figures
@@jame2433policy is not binding once a political party or parties get into office.
@@TB1M1 yes but if national for example are promising tax cuts on dodgy numbers then you vote for them and you don’t get those cuts then they’ve just lied to you. Also if they then justify getting those cuts via other means (rather than the foreign buyers tax) they will have to eat into public services more than they already want to (6.5%).
State funded TV has an agenda. A petty little interview. This is a horrendous watch. Winston was treated with contempt. It appeared as if Jack just wanted to score little points. Rather, as an undecided voter I would have preferred civility and a deeper discussion on the issues rather than a systematic point scoring petty interview. Ryan on the Breakfast show asks hard questions but manages to engage in conversations that tend to be helpful and enlightening.
I agree. They don't care about democracy in nz anf allowing us to have different opinions. They disrespect the supporters of NZ first too by painting all he stands for as stupid. Then we must all be stupid. Thanks for helping to turn kiwis against each other msm
You'd never get that level of scrutiny when a labour minister is under the pump like that. Go Winston.
jack, your asking question that have open ended answers, prison depends on the amount who get prison sentences, aged health care has levels from a weekly heath visits, to at home end of life care which is 24/7 care, at the moment im full time caring for a relative and they have, a cleaning service, a hospice nurse visit 3x a week, a health care visit once a day for washes etc, i can say first handed their staffing issues are very sad at least 3x a week the carers aren't here because of staffing issues, ,the cleaning service about once a month skip for the same reason, things need changing. with this interview you style shows your dislike to NZ1st, you are suppose to be impartial.
"How many gang members are there in prison" isn't an open ended question when Peters said he'll build a prison for all the gang members in prison. If he can't answer the first part of the question, he can't answer any followups, and it makes it a stupid fucking policy.
winston peters playbook:
- refuse to fully answer the question
- say that you're being disrespected when you're called out on it
- say the interviewer is biased/that they don't know what they're talking about
- keep refusing to answer the question until the interviewer moves on
- claim victory
wash, rinse, repeat. good on jack for pressing him on his bs.
Try Jack Tame is a terrible interviewer and Winston had a good point, the taxpayer should get a good interview not woke journalism!
@@kavarnmoka445 so you're saying winston is too stupid to answer his questions huh?
These figures are not known until they get into government. You can ask National the same question but they will just make up numbers. so which is worse.
But Tame targetted his questions to be biased and then kept doing it, there was no constructive interviewing here. You can see that when he talked to the greens, and then made his questions so they looked at National who don't agree with the greens, So went on a yes/no question method, which pretty much said, yes we agree with you Jack. Shitty interviewing style. He obviously dosn't like Winnie, and went to attack him.
Its like he hasn't even thought about what he might be asked he is completely unprepared and will be unprepared for cabinet he would just stall everything like he stalls the interview. Its a shame 5% of the country hasn't moved on from him.
A prison the size of Springhill prison would cost 400 million to build these days. So 1 think 1.2 billion might cover it. Beds cost 151k per prisoner per year so thats an annual cost of 453 million per year to house these gang members separately.
I guess tally that up against the cost of keeping them now and the social harm . Make them work to pay for it . Grow their own food produce meat etc keep cost down .
@@hankslapper yeah turn the gangsters into farmers process there own food ,save the taxpayers heaps great idea, we could build more prisons.
@gayjacob1657 the prison out near otorohanga has a dairy farm on it. The farm generates money. Prisoners get payed $10 a day that they work off memory. The government gets the rest of the profits. Takes the pressure off the tax side of things
@@hankslapper Bringing back slave labour is not the solution to gangs
@Leo-qy2di it's nit slave labour it's called working
Finally, a politician who stood up to Tame's cheap and shoddy "interviewing" tactics and showed him up as the vindictive lightweight he is. I'm not a NZFirst voter but Winston whipped Jack. Well done Winnie.
Cheap and shoddy interviewing tactics? Like asking for evidence based policies? What 💀
I thought the opposite made Winston less believable than before this interview. Just my opinion
JT has a lot to learn
It's not like this is a well designed attack to undermine Winston Peters at all. To make sure he stays off balance and unable to adequately defend himself or present his campaign. Of course not. The constant digs Breakfast are taking at Winston Peters is a complete coincidence, I'm sure. /endSarcasm. Jenny May also needs to be pulled up for it's conduct.
Absolutely rubbish, Winston we know yr a crook
This is what msm have been paid to do.
Watch the other interviews too though. They talk like that to all politicians, no matter the party. Agreed, it does just lead to arguing
I don't think these are the Comments Jack was hoping for 😂😂😂 Hes reposted again & turned comments off 🤨🤔😵💫🤣🤣🤣
True? Jeez, NZ's media is a propaganda machine funded on our tax money.
Yep, a Labour paid journalist. Fleecing 390k per year of taxpayers' dollars from TVNZ.
Well I can comment…😏
Of course he has, the journalists in this country believe they are far better than the rest of us & don't need to be held accountable....."shouldn't the plebs all just eat cake?".
@StellaHoyles As Winston said; not if he gets to have a say in it. TVNZ is getting to Labour as RT is to Putin.
Vote for Winston
Totally agree!
"Hello, It's Jack from TVNZ. Can you send someone to take Winston back to the dementia unit? He can't remember where he left his mobility sccoter. He's nearly 80 and he's getting a bit old for this sort of thing. He couldn't even understand my questions, let alone answer them! Thanks. Bye."
I see Jack got his orders from Willie Jackson to be an asshole.
He would never question his labour mtes like that.
He doesn't have such an issue getting a straight answer from Labour. They come with facts and figures.
But are they the right ones. He jumps when the puppetier pulls the strings like buying off msm@@joisagirlsname
It couldn't make it on Comedy Central so it became a TV Presenter?
Tames a mainstream media hack they are comedey central just doesn't realize it.
Embarrassing to see what our media have become in NZ. Jack Tame's childish attack on Winston shows just how desperate they are to destroy him.
You're insane if you think this is a "childish attack" if you care about policy whatsoever these are the most basic and simple questions you can put to politicians to hold them accountable - as he has done for literally every other leader on qna! But stay dickriding ig
embarrassing to read this comment
Exactly, NZ media are a bunch of shills with zero investigative skills. You can clearly see that Tame is Labour's b**ch ...
Oh don’t be daft he tore Peters apart especially on the racing and race stuff ,Peters dark threat at the end regarding the broadcasting portfolio summed up just how bruised his ego was !
Fantastic interview backed with on hand facts and figures,so refreshing to see a young journalist doing his or her homework prior to the interview and not allowing all the bloviating and bluster to mask the bumper sticker catch phrases and lack of actual policy that this populist spews forth!
so sad that you are still so in the dark@@rodlawson160
what will they do with all the empty prisons if they move the gang members out?? - maybe gang members could be housed on an island prison - Mana would be perfect...
I personally say put them all in the same prison. A supermax type thing America has. Arm the guards. 100,000 volt 20 foot tall fences. The only way out is to do your time. If you try escaping. Guards have orders to shoot on sight or let you get a wee zap from the fence. A zero bull shit prison. You'll get your rights back when you become a civilized human again who can act normal in society. Follow the rules, and you'll be fine. You'll only die if you try to escape. So don't try and escape. It's simple. Will point out. Cops etc in America have been 3 point holsters for guns. You have to do 3 steps in a certain order to get the gun out. Unless you're trained. You'll either won't know how to get it out, or it'll take you ages. At that point. You'll have multiple guards reminding you it's a bad idea to try to take the gun.
Send them to Australia like the old days :)
TVNZ, having a competent respectful interviewer would have been appreciated. Jack made this so painful! Don’t think I’ll tune into one of his interviews again 🤯
Agree, biased reporting from a Labour-junkie
He is asking him if he even knows the numbers associated with his pie in the sky policies.. He clearly does not even know how much his policies would cost.
We are desparate for competent people in the press. We are afflicted with opinionated members of the press ,TV and radio. Reporting of the facts is a thing of the past.....sad
you're delusional mate
I noticed this american style ( 4th estate ). Is being pushed by ppl who have specifically come here to undermine anything not of usa interests .
These two might have to dust off their boxing gloves.
Classic Winston and Jack Tame..
Winston is about 40 yrs older than Tame, but he would still knock that pussy to the canvas.
Winnie vs jack tame at the next fight for life
Winnie for PM!
Hope he adds defunding TVNZ to his policies!
Yes yes and yes. Ita too corrupt to have the media funded by governments
Have the media cater to the people not the government
They should be shut down so we get an independent news media
especially not corrupt ones@@relaxation-Corner
At least if NZ first gets in coalition deal with National, they will put the handbrake on a few of Nationals policies and schemes that are not going to be good for this country
Wouldnt it be good if he beat both the main parties
Such a disrespectful and vexatious interview. I wanted to get answers not to hear the sound of Tame's voice fancying himself a "tough" interviewer. Instead of getting answers he just antagonised Peters who was not allowed to get a word in edgeways and so we are none the wiser. It is irrelevant whether people watching this car wreck of an interview supported or did not support NZF. What mattered was that we watched this to find out more but instead we heard Tame acting as accuser and executioner. . That did not serve the audience, it was as Peters said, a total waste of everybody's time. .
Sad thing is these young ones all about identity media stars it’s sad no truths or fair media anymore
I've listened to Jack Tame before and I find him rude, he wanted to appear as a tough hard hitting interviewer and comes off as needing maturity.
What a pity I wanted to listen to Winston.
Jack Tame and TVNZ what a waste of tax payers money........ Exactly
It’s pretty clear that WP hasn’t thought through fairly basic numerical facts about his own policies. The reason you didn’t get answers (to the questions jack asked) was because WP couldn’t answer them! When he’s questioned and can’t answer he starts making accusations of fake news or saying Jack is incompetent and threatening him with defunding. I don’t see how that isn’t concerning? It’s literally the job of the media / journalists to make sure politicians are held accountable to their claims.
@@jpdenford1473I was just about to say the same thing. Jack is a sharp journalist. He does his homework and he sticks to his guns on the question until he gets a straight answer, or the politician slips and admits they don't have one. We need more like him imo..
Whilst I agree with many of your points I am still of the opinion that the manner in which the questioning was done, the tone of it was very disturbing. It is still possible to pursue truth without making that pursuit sound like the Inquisition. Disrespect towards other people, regardless of their position, politicians or not, whether you agree with their point of view or not, especially in a such a public forum, legitimises such conversation, particularly when accepted and condoned. It encourages others to behave like that in other areas of life too, get their way by shouting and atempting bullying tactics. I have seen political interviews in the past by tough, intelligent journalists, who did not give up the pursuit of answers when deflected by tactics of interviewees. They were persistent, did not let things slide or let the interviewee get away with not answering, but I have not witnessed this kind of approach which not only did not provide answers (whether due to Peters not being in possession of that information or due to his not being given the opportunity to explain why such estimates might be inaccurate.... ) but created a very unpleasant atmosphere. Re the throw away comment at the end by Peters, it was not a smart one and he realised it as soon as it passed his lips; but I suspect it arose out of sheer frustration of how the interview was conducted, not actually a promise of retaliation...
Jack please give people time to answer and then maybe LISTEN you just want to push your own perspective. JOURNALISTS YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ANSWERS
No that doesn't fit his narrative he is not a journalist just because he got a piece of paper to say that he studied and passed journalism. He should come out and say my opinion is bigger than your answers.
Winston Peters just threatened a reporter because he called him out on his bullshit. That's the person you're supporting.
Absolutely unreal conduct, and pathetic to see someone like Winston Peters stoop to new lows.
If only Jack was consistent in his ‘journalism’ 🥴
What an upstart Jack is.
cost half that prison amount to give people jobs
23:20 "[Rob Ballantyne] was also asked about his comments by stuff and Mr Ballantyne himself added context.
He said this, 'I was not talking about maintstream Māori, I was talking about the disingeneous Māori elite. It's the likes of Willie Jackson.'
Rob Ballantyne, when given an opportunity to add context to that statement agreed it was about people not about a concept"
what do you think "I was not talking about mainstream Māori" means Jack?
I watched the whole video. Mr Ballantyne clearly states this is about going after the slow implimentation of co-governance. I've been reading the report. It's very long. I am not surprised no one can argue against it. It is very hard to understand.
I will do my best to understand it and show where it applies to all sectors of new zealand.
Also, there is no hate. I understand the families and groups supporting this change are either profiting or are doing it from a place of envy because they never wanted colonialism. But I feel as if they have forgotten all the good that Māori have achieved. We still have a long way to go, but we will get there. We just have to be a bit patient.
For this interview reason i am going to vote nz first
@@RossHill-xe4xzgo read his website and listen to other interviews where he's actually allowed to talk
I can't help but wonder why the interviewer couldn't let the man speak. I am not voting for WP but I didn't enjoy the interview at all. I feel like it missed the mark.
Jack Tame there are still covid vaccine mandates are still in place, one example is you can't join the defence for of new zealand unless you've had a minimum of two pfizer injections and one booster and that is from the defence careers website as a mandatory medical requirement. Mainfreight unless they've changed their stance had a policy where you couldn't be on site, loaded or unloaded if you didn't have a covid jab.
NZDF has a fully vaccinated policy, has nothing to do with a covid 'mandate'. It's completely to do with having a fully functioning healthy force that gets sick as little as possible
I'm not a fan or NZ First of Winston but I give it to the man for putting Jack Tame in his place!
Yeah almost makes me want to vote to ensure he gets the broadcasting portfolio.
Nah, still can't forgive him for putting Jacinda into power
Its a pity JT drowned out WP answers or you would have heard his correct answer but thats not the name of the interviewers game is it .@@dontcomply3976
Jack is putting on these were media from past Jack is good truth hurts arrogance is Winstone.
Burying Maori not good.
Good .
Yes he certainly did that Daniel Jack Tane shoul
he couldn’t win against Winston . Winston had too much life experience to try taking him on by a boy that is bearing looking like his just graduated from his nappies in that interview anyway Don’t mess with. Us seniors . Winston hadn’t been King maker 3 times, and not know a thing or two about politics 😇✅🌅👍😁🌄🌎
@@dontcomply3976 Don’t blame Winston for putting Jabcinda into power It was our South Island farmers almost on mass didn’t vote National They thought to stop the greens getting in and it back fired or it was rigged election.
Gangs need to be put away from society and not paying them benefits from the tax payers purse, no point in asking how much its going to cost, Should we let a rapist go free because of what the legal cost would be and prison cost. Society needs to be protected.
Then it's probably a good thing that the choice isn't between housing them all in a new super prison and just sort of letting them go
@@ckdc6522 plenty of shipping containers laying around
Jack your bias is insulting to all those journalist who are true to their profession... when you ask a question allow answers and don't just answer your own questions and push your own viewpoints ... at the end of the interview we come away knowing only Jack's viewpoint. Roll on the day when we rid ourselves of government paid media... and get back to some true and non bias journalism so the people can then learn, be informed and make up their own minds.... so sick of Labour's paid media that push Labour propaganda and think it is their right to force their views on the public! Can't wait for the day when we say goodbye Jack and get back to some true journalism informing the people without bias for them to make up their own minds.
so he should just sit there and not refute peters when peters is absolutely lying, huh?
well said
I agree. I want a media that works for the people not the government
The current media doesn't respect democracy and our rights to make up our own minds and have different views
@@relaxation-Corner so you want one that goes easy on peters when he can't answer simple questions. So not journalists at all
wow wtf? I thought that was a terrible interview. As a newbie NZer trying to understand the different parties involved, it was frustrating watching that style of interviewing, also it seemed extremely biased. I get that politicians should be challenged, but the only thing I've learnt from this interview is that quality of broadcasters in NZ shows lack of experience. The conclusions the interviewer had were based on his own poor questions. I was half expecting the interviewer to ask "well what bricks are you going to use for the prisons and how much are THEY going to cost? Well go on then you don't know? You can't answer my question - therefore your policy has holes"
His questions were perfectly fair and straightforward. There's nothing wrong with asking for a ballpark figure on how much a policy is going to cost and how many people it will serve/affect. This is very basic information which this expired fossil of a human being should be perfectly capable of providing.
Yes indeed - he was right to ask, but I felt there was not a follow up question for Winston's response - which was cut off. In that first topic, it was mentioned that the numbers of inmates were not clear, so a follow up question I would want to know is, if it's not clear on the the capacity 'what other factors are to be considered to fund that policy and is that realistic?' @@GangsterGreg
@@GangsterGreghe can't give excact answers without exact figures and he knows if he tried he'd be torn apart
And again with the topic of support workers - I wanted to hear more on the response from Winston - but felt response was cut off for which sounded like an assessment of that industry was required before a premature 'ball park' figure is to be said. @@GangsterGreg
What can I say the media hates Winston you will see the difference with other party's too.
Tane was trying hard to be the attack dog for Labour. It back fired big time, at least he didn't have the dumb look on his face that he had with the interview with Waititi .
Go NZ FIRST.
Agree 100%
Govt backed media trying m their hardest to discredit anyone that won’t keep them on the payroll
The entire objective of a NZ MSM interviewer is to GOTCHA. Nothing else
Exactly the detailed finances are not known to parties not in power, costings are meaningless. It's the approach that you are voting for.