Planting Fruit Trees Too Close, See What Happens
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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High density planting only works if you trim your trees 3x a year. I've been doing it for 4 years. No issues so far. But i must trim them 3x a year. Right after they fruit, then around oct-nov, again around march-may depending on the time they fruit. Except for my hug plum, it has worked for me.
I found a short here on RUclips of a person who has kept a mango at about 8’ for 10 years but it has required heavy pruning. Despite the heavy pruning it fruits well every year.
ruclips.net/video/jfkDAew-2UY/видео.htmlsi=HRnZqLxoyEj7-zu5
I’d love to see a series of videos on your orchard and maintenance.
Their are a few people I see in RUclips that have exstream high density yards . They have no issues trees fruit like crazy . And yes he keeps them trimmed not 3 x a year but he trims some of them at least once a year.
@Maatson_ i think after next year I will only trim them once a year because most of them aren't growing as enthusiastically anymore, except my hog plum. That one just wants to be as tall as posible so I'm letting it lol. But the other ones I have managed to keep them under 6 feet.
@davidjslack I might upload a video. I feel in tropical areas the first couple of years you have to be aggressive, that's just what I noticed. Otherwise they will lose control.
I love my high density orchard😁 In 50ft square I have 3 mullberries, 1 peach, 1 pluot, 1 plum, 1 fig, 2 guava, 1 raspberry, 3 blackberry, 2 blueberry, 2 cara cara orange, 1 dancy tangerine, 1 key lime, 1 kumquat, 1 meyer lemon, 1 elderberry, 1 avocado, 2 barbados cherry, 1 persimmon, and its all walled in with passion-fruit vines, and a large magnolia for shade😁 I have other areas around my garden, and attempting the same thing
Love your videos, but I don't think high density is for you, but it works for others. If you have smaller yards with less trees, it works well but you have to prune multiple times a year. My trees are like 8 feet apart and I prune constantly plus multigraft. I only have space for one fruit tree per species. So my 5 in 1 asian persimmon is 8 feet away from my citrus tree with early, mid and late mandarins and grapefruit on it. You have so many trees that pruning constantly would take all your time.
This is why I love Pickering so much 🤙
Fantastic mango all around
I live on .30 acres with a 2500 square foot home taking up most of the property. 35 + fruit trees strategically placed between 5 and 10 ft appart. I'm going on my 3rd year now. Most of the trees are dwarf varieties. Make no mistake, high density planting is more work. My theory was to plant as many trees as possible to keep them suppressed and fruit just what we need without an over abundance of fruit. I'd rather have 4 different mangos fruit 10 mangos each than 1 variety of mango with 40 mangos.
I have 12 mango trees, 1 avocado, 1 jackfruit, 2 ackee trees and other fruit trees on my 1/4 acre lot. High density is what we do. It’s only 2 of us living here our trees on average give us 15 - 20 pieces of fruit. That’s plenty. Keep em small. It works for us! 😊
where are you located? I'd love to film your place.
There is no spacing in a natural forest. The boundaries are in your head. You want to intervene when they touch because you created that restriction in your head. Having five mangoes one meter apart or one mango five meter apart, the amount of fruit will be the same. No need to trim, the trees will trim themselves, intertwine, and grow just fine together. Nobody prunes them in a forest. What is the point of having one five meter wide tree with lots of fruit when you can have five one meter wide trees bearing the same amount of fruit together? 1x50 fruits = 50x1 fruits. Simple math. Besides, it will look way better than this manmade intervention orchard style with huge gaps between the trees. It's not natural and way more work to mow the lawn.
You see those gaps between your trees? No fruit. What a waste of air space.
What will you do in ten years time when the trees are thrice the size, move them again?
It is all relative.
It is your mind that needs adjusting, not the trees.
Great point about the forest, but farmers say otherwise. Spacing and arrangement helps with harvesting and land management at least on larger scale.
'farmers say otherwise'
That is simply not true. Many farmers have realised that high density plantings resulted in way more fruit per acre and much easier to harvest.
This!
trees need sun to grow a good amount of fruit
@@FruitfulTrees how far apart are branches on the same tree and yet they fruit just fine. Do you space them too?
Dude in no time your drain field will be choked out with roots from All of the trees you have.
Tree's close to drain fields = Bad JuJu. $$$
Yea that wouldn't be good
6'x9' here packed on 1/3 acre lot. House took 40% of the lot. Location: Los Angeles, CA. Let's see what I got: 8x pomegranates, 12 citrus, 7 avocados, 1 jujube, 5 cherries, 3 euro plums, 10 asian plums/pluots, 8 apricots/aprium, 7 peaches/nectarines, 15 figs, 4 apples, 5 pistachios, 10 pears/asian pears, 6 persimmons (3 just died dang it). Note: Some were multi grafted
Zone 8B. Except for pistachio, fig, and avocados, everything listed were either semi dwarf or dwarf
May I suggest that you research how to move mature trees and then make videos of moving the trees you can't keep to nearby neighbors' yards? Include recovery care and results after recovery. It's the perfect gift (that keeps on giving) and valuable information that the world should know.
Hi I have videos showing how I moved mature trees in the past from one house to another.
Fallen fruit is fertilizer never waste
Since mango trees can reach heights of 90 feet by 80 feet wide I think you should aim for 80 feet spacing between your trees just to be on the safe side - it will provide plenty of room for your kids to play too.
The other problem is your olanting a bunch of fruit trees that grow massive like mango and jackfruit. Mango trunks in the carribean are probably twice the width of a human.
Exactly spot on. Paul planted way too many humongous fruit trees like mango, jackfruit, avocado etc. you won’t need that many and you can multi graft.
Dun dun dun ........ the saga continues. 😂😂😂 Good stuff Paul. Appreciate your content.
Thanks for taking us on this years long journey! Both inspirational and educational. I’ve got a tiny yard but thanks to you starting with Pickering and experimenting with big trees in pots before committing to in ground planting. Testing out espalier for some and cutting out 1 of 4 main branches in rotation to keep things small. Keep sharing and teaching!
Crap, I think I’ve planted my trees too close… 😂
It’s hard to plant them more than 12ft apart, when they are so tiny it looks like plenty of room.
it always looks close enough when first planting
Oh Gosh. What do you do with all those seeds from the White Sopote? I really wish i could purchse some seeds from you.😊
I still don't know any more about how to prune to accommodate density, or why specific fruit trees were chosen.
No one’s mango trees got alot of mangos this year I’m in Florida and we have a lot of mango trees in our town like 15 on each tree
Did Paul plan to fail, failed to plan ...
What is the success rate of survival when relocating a mature tree to a different location?
Paul although you said no one needs more than one white spote tree. I kinda disagree with you b/c certain varieties taste different and are Not the same. For example, Longhans(Golden Sapote), Campbell, and Redlands all tastes different and vary in size. Yes! i agree some white sapote varieties over produces but any excess i have are given away to friends, family, neighbors, and local food banks. The differences in taste and certain sizes vary greatly from banana like, peachy, pear like, flan tasting to vanilla. Therefore, i recommend anyone who has more than one white sapote tree make sure they taste different and have a unique flavor profile before planting one.
Good points, i've only tasted a few and they weren't that much different in taste, it all depends how much room someone has. I love white sapote, that's why I have 5. but one tree give more than I need. Now If they are a different season that would be a sure reason to keep more than one.
Which WS is peachy?
What do you consider “too close” together? I have most of my trees separated by 11-14 ft. However, I have planted my Pawpaw tree’s (Asimina Triloba) about 8-10 feet apart.
depending on the type of tree 14 feet should be okay. 11 or less will be too close after a few years for many trees except dwarf trees. I think the best is to plant permanent trees 16 ft apart and you can plant temporary in between at 8ft with plans to remove them in the future
how come u don't have any sugar apples? i grow them close and they get fruits in couple years and they take less space. and they're probably the most expensive fruits and high demands next to sour soup cost like 16/pounds. i leave the center of my yards empty because i got kids to play in. how do u like that large black compose bin. do u get a lot of pests eating your fruit. why not trim them back smaller so u have little fruits because you're not eating them all or fast enough and if u have fruits on the floor like that then u have other problems such as tree hoarding. u should only have one of each kind of fruits and not every varieties of that fruit. i'm surprised you have kids and considered them to play in that yard with overgrown grass and probably infested with snakes and mosquitos
I have a sugar apple. Yes I love the black bins. I have 3 of them. I tree the trees back each year
the Duncan mango produces a ton from what I understand. You said you are converting your Duncan to a Sunrise, does the Sunrise produce similar and just flat out taste better than Duncan? Or ballpark yields? Thank you
This year my sunrise is doing great but duncan is one of the best producing trees. I'm not trying to keep up iwth duncan I just want a mango I love on the tree
Why don’t you sell fruit to a local market? Or to someone who sells at a farmers market?
My food never goes to waste, the white sapote just was too much this year for the first time but in the future i'll get them all
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Its funny we warned about the varieties you were planting were too vigorous a long time ago. Its wild you keep saying it doesnt work. It doesnt work the way you do it for sure. You needed way more due diligence.
I love your videos, but man you need to cut your grass