So you are not allowed to use a camera even though quite a lot of their job flyers on the walls have QR codes for you to get your phones camera and scan them
Top tip my friend, don't go for the body worn camera too early. Give them enough rope to hang themselves, wait until they're about to leave then ask them about it. This way you get more interaction and they have no grounds to say 'I haven't had the chance yet' because they've had the whole time. Keep up the good work though ✊
Heya buddy :) are you able to update about the prison filming thing? I'm guessing you've been told to keep quiet till it's over :/ regardless I'm sending my respect to you and Laughing Auditor
@@thelaughingauditor Bro, you and PTTP are both great people and amazing auditors. I think some collabs would be good (but please don't go in gang style but separate where possible). You guys both have great individual auditing styles and could totally benefit from each other. Love ya both and thanks for the content brothers
Because they still don't know if they have th right to detain you or th difference between detaining and arresting 👍 let's be honest here they are thicker than pig shit so what do you expect 🤷
You’d take the east road too little buddy, being detained for hours on end for no reason it’s a no brainier to not put one self in that situation. Should probably shut your hole. 🙄
21:19 - The moment that this cop realised that Trespass is a civil matter. He is everything that we have all come to expect from today's Police. A future of ignorance and truth-dodging awaits him.
I love it when an auditor is allowed to continue filming in a public place. I understand why you didn't go back inside, but you did fail. Yet again the police not being impartial and not willing to be on the side of a person doing no wrong and not breaking the law. A win for the jobcentre.
i agree ..piss weak ...he knows what he is doing is legal ..said it 50 times..just go in let them arrest you with an unlawful arrest if they will ..why did you not tell security they can go to jail for not displaying their security identity ..they won ..he proved nothing ..they will continue to do it now ..pathetic ...my subscription is removed..
@@patrolmanracv I think he made his point loud and clear, there was nothing piss weak about it. Why get nicked by a corrupt prick then put in a complaint, rather than putting in the complaint and not going through all the agro of getting nicked? It's weaker to sit and judge and criticise from the comfort of your home IMO.
Should have went back inside tbh, you would have won a civil claim if they arrested you on breach of the peace. In the end your rights got taken away in my opinion.
That officer needs to go home and learn the definition of “Breach of the Peace”, before he starts threatening people with arrest, absolutely laughable. He had better shape up before he gets himself into trouble, breach of the peace indeed, for a lawful activity. Knowing the exact definition of Breach of the peace Is about as basic as it gets for a police officer or special constable. Not only that but the breach has to be “Real and Imminent” , that’s from a stated case, Foulkes v Chief constable of Merseyside police. Mr Foulkes wanted to get back into his house one night to get some stuff after being locked out after a domestic earlier. It’s all on the net if you want to know what Lord Justice Beldam had to say about it all.
@@davidsmith5523 At 02:39 TLA commented 'Trespass is a civil matter'. My initial comment also said 'potential offence'. The DWP have also published a document outlining their right to revoke rights of entry to anyone not abiding by their rules, which includes recording in Job Centres.
On their website it says you can film there. I have seem PTTP using that paperwork a couple of times in these jobcenters. File complaints against these coppers.
Obviously that jobcentre hasn't seen the memo from the DWP saying that (paraphrasing here) they can't stop people filming in the jobcentre. As for the officer he doesn't understand the law regarding section 5 of the public order act, again a master class of why the met are in special measures because they are a failing police force
@@awhisperinthewind4253 Agreed but then the question is how would I look for a job ok you could argue go on line. I don't have internet. library, I live in a village. I'm in town looking for a job I don't have an appointment. There are QR codes there I need my phone to film them. And so it goes on
@@frankgardiner5002 I think you missed my point, the jobcentres should be open to anyone at all times , no appointment necessary, like you say go in when it's suitable and convenient for you, not when they say so, and to be able to scan the codes. and your point of going online, if everything is going to be online then why will we need expensive offices, ignorant, unhelpful staff and security guards, can they not see they will be out of a job themselves if this 'online' rubbish carries on.
@@awhisperinthewind4253 Don't get me wrong whisper I'm not sticking up for them I'm just saying these are the sort of things they come out with. 100% the job centers should be open to any one and NO appointment required
You've just given an amazing demonstration/education on exercising our civil rights for we the people, those so called security goons, and last but not least those ignorant cops, we appreciate you,
This is what happens when you hire people to enforce laws and the haven’t a clue what the law actually is !!! This cop just threatened to arrest somebody with breach of the peace for a trespass ??? These cops should not be in law enforcement they don’t know or understand basic law !!! Well done and documented cops just making up shyte to create crimes that don’t exist !!!
He was facing a totally unlawful threat of arrest (a crime in itself) and may not have been up for the detainment and later release - without charge of course. He did his job though, showing what ignorant arseholes most police (including you) actually are.
Once again the guilty staff who lied about entering areas get off. My next visit would be my solicitor asking for all the body cam footage from both cops and G4S to see who verbally said he was trespassing in areas. Sue that person and the police.
Incapable of listening. Always have to issue instructions. Always ignore complaints against establishment personnel. this video really shows the problems with the way the police approach these types of situations. This video should be critiqued in every police training center as an example of just why they 'earn the hate'.
@@thesecretone7102 probably to do with the fact that job centre staff treat the public/claimants like absolute shit!! Maybe if they started treating claimants with a bit more respect, then they wouldn't need security!!
Yes you do need to inform at the most practical opportunity of filming when using bwvc. The only crime broken is a false police report. Stop giving your own bais opinion officer stay impartial follow laws honour your oaths. Another opportunity for the commissioner of the police force to educate.
PC1681. A useless, scared looking copper who reverted to intimidation having failed to communicate in any civil manner. Job Centres are a gift that keeps giving, keep on exposing them. Well done.
Section 33 of the criminal justice act doesn't give you explicit permission to record in a public place, it only deems what is classed as a public place. But you can record nearly anything you can see in a public place which the job centre is at its material time because the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise. I say nearly record anything you can see in public because there are actually certain things that would be classed as illegal if you see it and recorded it.
They will stand up for companies,councils and organisations but never the public. The public are easier to order around than the companies . They are totally biased and always will be.
PC NE 1681 needs to re-read the policy on BWV - it clearly states that - officers must declare wherever possible when they are commencing audio and video recording during each and every encounter. www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/policies/bwv_policy_statement_february2017.pdf
A High Court Judge made a precedent in which he said any building which the public par for totally or predominantly then it is public and they can record anything from public. If it is a private building open to the public with a reception the entrance from the bopundary to reception is also public during opening yours and it is NOT the law as it is their policy and they assume their policy applies to the public and illegal/unlawful signs have some authority when they dont. Strange how a FOI request never reveals their filming POLICY as this instructs staff to try and stop it and ignore the law then they cover up their staffs unlawful actions so bring a claim against them. The irony is that they say no mobile phones and they have QR codes for your phones. That security guard needs some serious exercise and a bacon slicer and he cannot stop you entering. It is NOT a civil right as it is illegal not to wear it and actually a criminal offence under section 9 of the SIA codes which are law. Strange is not illegal but stopping or impeding a lawful activity is an indictible offence and their secure areas have key locks. They should also be checking their CCTV. They tried it with me and G4skins ended up in hospital and they are in court now. He cannot stop you from going in there as the law he is employed by the public to uphold and he is now breaking the law and trespass is a civil matter. Complaint about these also and bring a claim.
I’m a new subscriber. Good work mate. I’m glad I’ve subscribed. The filth who spoke to you had total disregard for the public. They need restructuring. The whole farce is finished.
Yet again another prime example of police incompetence and poor knowledge of the law. The Asian cop was useless to say the least! You could tell he wasn't very clever and lacked the ability to understand what's right and what's wrong.
You have watched other audits to gain your knowledge of the legalities. Most of it is wrong. You can be chucked out for filming. I never really understand why auditors continue to target job centres, Its a no win situation. You need to research trespass law at least, because your threats of "self defence" was actually a threat of assault.
No threat of assult. If any unwanted contact happens you defend yourself. BesidesNO ONE can tell you what you can and cannot do. LAWS equal someone elses ideology. LAWS egfort to control the masses= bullshit. There should be mass protests close cities and towns . Lets the so called piwer realise who is in charge. We the people . Power to the prolateriat
@auditpundit well simply filming in a public place doesnt make his presence a criminal matter/aggrevated trespass so its defo a civil matter, hence why the police threatened him with another crime altogether of "breach of the peace", which he wasn't actually guilty of either because to cause a breach of the peace you must be "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to provoke a breach of the peace or whereby a breach of the peace is likely to be occasioned". If you have any info to the contrary i would like to know but seems pretty cut and dry, legally he was in the right and the staff and police just got in their feelings.
@@ItsEasyJustLift The BoP would have been for attempting re-entry after being banned. Nobody is claiming filming is criminal. But if you're on private property and you're filming they simply invoke trespass law to get you off the premises. Even though it's a civil offence the security are allowed to use force to remove someone, so if you use "self defence" against lawful force, that would amount to an assault. Therefore "warning" them he would use self defence constitutes a threat.
I like your style you're polite but not too polite. Too many auditors in my opinion are too polite too avoid getting arrested or other issues. Although I can understand that it's nice seeing an auditor standing and unwilling to move
Oh no. A man with a camera interfering with normal operations of a corporation quick call the corporate policy enforcement officers who will turn up in 30 seconds to protect the private organisation. It is a shame when a member of the public is a victim of crime and the police turn up four hours later.
The black cop reacted good to take the conversation somewhere private since you were free to film there. The other cop ignored your question if you were detained and then lost his temper afterwards because you were so persistent, very unprofessional to lose your temper like that. And also this cop doesnt really listen to people so whats the point in having this job then ? This guy doesnt want to have a conversation because he is very biased, he said you werent supposed to go back in because you were causing a nuisance to them.
Crazy how completely Incompetent the majority of Police seem to be. See it in any job, but it's worrying when they have so much power and most people wouldn't know otherwise!
I would suggest watching a few PTPT Audits beofre going to a JC ? he has done many & they are always confrontational . Thanks for the Video though . The Job Center NEVER fails to provide content . As for the Smart phones are allowed for QR codes , BUT No recording devices are allowed . That is one of the Great Universal Conundrums 🤣
1. You shouldn't of left the building, g4s have no legal right to touch you UNLESS to self defend themselves which is in their policy! 2. Even the police cannot remove you for filming from a public place which a job center is, they may ask but they have no legal right at all.! 3. Wait untill the pigs are about to leave before asking if their cctv is on and filmed you. Its a process and learning curve but stick in there pal good work keep going 👍🏻
“They’ve made a false report” Plod with no hat, …”that’s absolutely fine”. Therein lies the problem with modern Plod. There only to support the Government and large Companies. Besides, photography isn’t a crime. Who in the control room said trespass was a criminal matter? PS. And yes, Plod with no hat broke the Law. We all know why by now, surely…
They were aggressive and asking you why you are being aggressive ,if they were not aggressive in the first place then you would not have been stern with them .
Puzzled new subscriber - why didn't you go back in? I didn't hear anyone revoke your implied access. Can I recommend watching a few Power to the Proletariat Jobcentre audits? He's got it nailed down perfectly. The power of his argument is normally the cost to the DWP for each & every violation. Think the figure he uses is 'a maximum of €20m', which I believe is correct. He's made quite a few jaws drop. Deffo get a complaint in against both cops. Obvious for the one who talked to you, and a refusal to identify for the other (unless I missed the basturd replying).
Auditors are ok in there place but the laws needs to change, the photography law was from back in 72 when people didn't have cameras on there phones and small camera that you can wear wasn't a thing, places like job centers and anywhere someone may or could be divulging private information it should be iligal for a member of the public to record, truly UK law needs to change
The public should not be seeing anyone's private information. That onus is on the organization that holds it. For example in a job centre they have QR codes for scanning the details of a job. So how does one scan the code without a recording device? Fyi every job centre has been sent a memo regarding recording in the public area which is permitted.
Easier said than done! When you're watching videos from comfort it's easy to scrutinise but I'm sure it's scary being threatened by goons. But yes he's rights were violated and the goons got away with it, as per.
So you are not allowed to use a camera even though quite a lot of their job flyers on the walls have QR codes for you to get your phones camera and scan them
You can't make the shit up it's unreal
They always come out for a camera but not an actual crime.
There not taff
Love this comment 💚
They wont attend a simple burglary but "this" is blues and twos and respond within half hour
Officer safety Officer safety
@@adamgrimsley2900 But much to busy to attend a real crime like a burglary just in case they get hurt, officer safety officer safety.
"He can't tell me what to do, i'll do what I want to do". Police officer, "Don't go in there again". Auditor does'nt go in there again.
yeah i didnt like that either. should have gone back in
Top tip my friend, don't go for the body worn camera too early. Give them enough rope to hang themselves, wait until they're about to leave then ask them about it. This way you get more interaction and they have no grounds to say 'I haven't had the chance yet' because they've had the whole time. Keep up the good work though ✊
Thanks For the advice PTTP truly humbled, I will certainly take that on board going forward
@@serenityhealth6492 great actually, thanks for asking ✊
Heya buddy :) are you able to update about the prison filming thing? I'm guessing you've been told to keep quiet till it's over :/ regardless I'm sending my respect to you and Laughing Auditor
@Dobin Pantomine Horse dobin do you still go to the glory hole on Friday looking for your dad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🌈
@@thelaughingauditor Bro, you and PTTP are both great people and amazing auditors. I think some collabs would be good (but please don't go in gang style but separate where possible). You guys both have great individual auditing styles and could totally benefit from each other. Love ya both and thanks for the content brothers
Why does Old Bill always have that 'I have just shit my pants' face, when they are asked "Am I being Detained?"
😂😂
Because they still don't know if they have th right to detain you or th difference between detaining and arresting 👍 let's be honest here they are thicker than pig shit so what do you expect 🤷
The law? What is that? We only deal with government policies and corporations rules.
Why do you need to throw insults ! If your so sure go back in but no whimped out and walked away.
You’d take the east road too little buddy, being detained for hours on end for no reason it’s a no brainier to not put one self in that situation. Should probably shut your hole. 🙄
8 1/2 hours everyday standing doing nothing ! you bring a ray of sunshine into their little world, no wonder they rush to greet you
Lmao
Literally
21:19 - The moment that this cop realised that Trespass is a civil matter. He is everything that we have all come to expect from today's Police. A future of ignorance and truth-dodging awaits him.
I love it when an auditor is allowed to continue filming in a public place. I understand why you didn't go back inside, but you did fail. Yet again the police not being impartial and not willing to be on the side of a person doing no wrong and not breaking the law. A win for the jobcentre.
It looks like a win for the BULLY BOYS ( POLICE ) TYRANT NOT DOING THE JOB PROPERLY 👍👍👍👌
Should have gone in ffs if this is your thing
Stand your ground and they soon crumble
i agree ..piss weak ...he knows what he is doing is legal ..said it 50 times..just go in let them arrest you with an unlawful arrest if they will ..why did you not tell security they can go to jail for not displaying their security identity ..they won ..he proved nothing ..they will continue to do it now ..pathetic ...my subscription is removed..
@@patrolmanracv I think he made his point loud and clear, there was nothing piss weak about it. Why get nicked by a corrupt prick then put in a complaint, rather than putting in the complaint and not going through all the agro of getting nicked? It's weaker to sit and judge and criticise from the comfort of your home IMO.
Lmao I used to go to that job centre 😂😂😂 you’re a legend I can’t believe you did an audit here hahaha
That officer mugged you off lad!
Should have went back inside tbh, you would have won a civil claim if they arrested you on breach of the peace. In the end your rights got taken away in my opinion.
Agreed, breach of the peace would have been a stretch. The only potential offence I witnessed was civil trespass.
GBC SAVAGE .... You Are 100% Correct ..... There Is Always Another Day
That officer needs to go home and learn the definition of “Breach of the Peace”, before he starts threatening people with arrest, absolutely laughable.
He had better shape up before he gets himself into trouble, breach of the peace indeed, for a lawful activity.
Knowing the exact definition of Breach of the peace Is about as basic as it gets for a police officer or special constable. Not only that but the breach has to be “Real and Imminent” , that’s from a stated case, Foulkes v Chief constable of Merseyside police. Mr Foulkes wanted to get back into his house one night to get some stuff after being locked out after a domestic earlier. It’s all on the net if you want to know what Lord Justice Beldam had to say about it all.
@@scotttchviski6706 by whom? Civil trespass.
@@davidsmith5523 At 02:39 TLA commented 'Trespass is a civil matter'.
My initial comment also said 'potential offence'.
The DWP have also published a document outlining their right to revoke rights of entry to anyone not abiding by their rules, which includes recording in Job Centres.
I expect G4S to be stupid but the lack of knowledge from the police is frightening
No lack of knowledge just a twat behind a camera thinking he’s a big man 😂😂😂
On their website it says you can film there. I have seem PTTP using that paperwork a couple of times in these jobcenters. File complaints against these coppers.
Obviously that jobcentre hasn't seen the memo from the DWP saying that (paraphrasing here) they can't stop people filming in the jobcentre. As for the officer he doesn't understand the law regarding section 5 of the public order act, again a master class of why the met are in special measures because they are a failing police force
but now they use the excuse of not having an appointment
@@awhisperinthewind4253 Agreed but then the question is how would I look for a job ok you could argue go on line. I don't have internet. library, I live in a village. I'm in town looking for a job I don't have an appointment. There are QR codes there I need my phone to film them. And so it goes on
@@frankgardiner5002 I think you missed my point, the jobcentres should be open to anyone at all times , no appointment necessary, like you say go in when it's suitable and convenient for you, not when they say so, and to be able to scan the codes. and your point of going online, if everything is going to be online then why will we need expensive offices, ignorant, unhelpful staff and security guards, can they not see they will be out of a job themselves if this 'online' rubbish carries on.
@@awhisperinthewind4253 Don't get me wrong whisper I'm not sticking up for them I'm just saying these are the sort of things they come out with. 100% the job centers should be open to any one and NO appointment required
You've just given an amazing demonstration/education on exercising our civil rights for we the people, those so called security goons, and last but not least those ignorant cops, we appreciate you,
Disgusting behaviour talking to a Police Officer like that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
This Asian PC Miah has some attitude and power trip issue
Role Harris was absolutely raging below the surface x
This is what happens when you hire people to enforce laws and the haven’t a clue what the law actually is !!! This cop just threatened to arrest somebody with breach of the peace for a trespass ??? These cops should not be in law enforcement they don’t know or understand basic law !!! Well done and documented cops just making up shyte to create crimes that don’t exist !!!
Auditor fail. Managed to get trespassed from a public building without the police understanding that they can’t trespass you from a public building.
You say he has no power over you but you didnt go back inside did ya ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Keyboard warrior
@@tanseygreen for stating a fact?
lol
He was facing a totally unlawful threat of arrest (a crime in itself) and may not have been up for the detainment and later release - without charge of course. He did his job though, showing what ignorant arseholes most police (including you) actually are.
there is no profit for G4S to train their staff. keep them ignotant and everybody else paranoid and watch their profits soar.
breach of the peace clearly means contempt of cop
well done fella old beardy was a right pratt you hurt the poor guys ego
Once again the guilty staff who lied about entering areas get off.
My next visit would be my solicitor asking for all the body cam footage from both cops and G4S to see who verbally said he was trespassing in areas.
Sue that person and the police.
Incapable of listening. Always have to issue instructions. Always ignore complaints against establishment personnel. this video really shows the problems with the way the police approach these types of situations. This video should be critiqued in every police training center as an example of just why they 'earn the hate'.
Absolutely no need for ANY security at job centres and many other public buildings
They may catch some moving
What ! Half the UK Security guards would be Unemployed if that happened ! 🤣
No clue have you customers are regularly assaulting staff at my local jcp.thats why they need security
@@thesecretone7102 probably to do with the fact that job centre staff treat the public/claimants like absolute shit!! Maybe if they started treating claimants with a bit more respect, then they wouldn't need security!!
Bloke with the white hair and glasses and the big belly is a brilliant example of the plonkers that company have working for them
Go back in ! The security won ! :(
The officer and g4s are a disgrace!
"Breach of the peace" That copper needs to learn a bit about the law
@@serenityhealth6492 Research Reg v Howell, you will learn something
Copper was spot on
Yes you do need to inform at the most practical opportunity of filming when using bwvc. The only crime broken is a false police report. Stop giving your own bais opinion officer stay impartial follow laws honour your oaths. Another opportunity for the commissioner of the police force to educate.
G4S say you can’t film in here but he is walking around with a body cam filming everone
Don’t do what I do do what I say plonker
They only put them on if there's an incident, not all day
PC1681. A useless, scared looking copper who reverted to intimidation having failed to communicate in any civil manner. Job Centres are a gift that keeps giving, keep on exposing them. Well done.
G'day
Just subbed, you sound the same as my cousin from Scotland,, 😂
You tell em mate,
They are a bunch a grubs
Section 33 of the criminal justice act doesn't give you explicit permission to record in a public place, it only deems what is classed as a public place. But you can record nearly anything you can see in a public place which the job centre is at its material time because the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise.
I say nearly record anything you can see in public because there are actually certain things that would be classed as illegal if you see it and recorded it.
Did he just come out and say oi listen? Wow this is our police?
yay for brave soul to dare to do this in Scotland. and madly entertaining akcent, luv it ! public wants more !
They will stand up for companies,councils and organisations but never the public. The public are easier to order around than the companies . They are totally biased and always will be.
PC NE 1681 needs to re-read the policy on BWV - it clearly states that - officers must declare wherever possible when they are commencing audio and video recording during each and every encounter.
www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/policies/bwv_policy_statement_february2017.pdf
Just don't resort to petty name calling !
Subbed. Most entertaining. Like a younger TyrantHunterUK. (just noticed his channels gone).
G4S are the worst security so unprofessional, and these police are a waste of time, no idea about filming in public, stay safe retired lifeboatman
Exercising one's rights cannot be a breach of the peace as no harm can be construed.
A High Court Judge made a precedent in which he said any building which the public par for totally or predominantly then it is public and they can record anything from public. If it is a private building open to the public with a reception the entrance from the bopundary to reception is also public during opening yours and it is NOT the law as it is their policy and they assume their policy applies to the public and illegal/unlawful signs have some authority when they dont. Strange how a FOI request never reveals their filming POLICY as this instructs staff to try and stop it and ignore the law then they cover up their staffs unlawful actions so bring a claim against them. The irony is that they say no mobile phones and they have QR codes for your phones. That security guard needs some serious exercise and a bacon slicer and he cannot stop you entering. It is NOT a civil right as it is illegal not to wear it and actually a criminal offence under section 9 of the SIA codes which are law. Strange is not illegal but stopping or impeding a lawful activity is an indictible offence and their secure areas have key locks. They should also be checking their CCTV.
They tried it with me and G4skins ended up in hospital and they are in court now. He cannot stop you from going in there as the law he is employed by the public to uphold and he is now breaking the law and trespass is a civil matter. Complaint about these also and bring a claim.
I’m a new subscriber. Good work mate. I’m glad I’ve subscribed. The filth who spoke to you had total disregard for the public. They need restructuring. The whole farce is finished.
I see Sean Connery is alive and well and living in Stratford.
You cant be trespassed from public property unless commiting an offence
Police shouldn’t give their opinions on a member of a public doing a lawful activity saying it’s strange.
G4S think they own the place there working at and you have to obey them they think they are the law instead a hired out company
Can see how that fella got that waist line.Lazy rather stand around ordering folk about.Rather than do proper work.
Well done, you have grown some balls, no more of your footwear, thanks.
are you detained,, no ... are you entertained ,,, yes ... Just subscribed to your channel i'm a new auditor down south east big up 👊
Sec26 criminal justice and courts act 2015, constable acting outside his office of authority.
Well done you, like your work subscribed 🇮🇪☘️
G4S. Not exactly the sharpest tools in the box.
As you can see they are not interested.
Was that Rolf Harris that I saw there???? 😅
Should have took the arrest and just walked back in. He did tell you what to do.
Brilliant
The police officer cannot tell you what to do .
Yet again another prime example of police incompetence and poor knowledge of the law.
The Asian cop was useless to say the least! You could tell he wasn't very clever and lacked the ability to understand what's right and what's wrong.
But there was a camera involved very dodgie
Great! Call him names when he can’t hear you……. You were owned
TERRIBLE officer! TERRIBLE G4S Security!
Well done bud. Just subbed. Keep at it and stand firm EE
You have watched other audits to gain your knowledge of the legalities. Most of it is wrong. You can be chucked out for filming. I never really understand why auditors continue to target job centres, Its a no win situation. You need to research trespass law at least, because your threats of "self defence" was actually a threat of assault.
No threat of assult. If any unwanted contact happens you defend yourself. BesidesNO ONE can tell you what you can and cannot do. LAWS equal someone elses ideology. LAWS egfort to control the masses= bullshit. There should be mass protests close cities and towns . Lets the so called piwer realise who is in charge. We the people . Power to the prolateriat
@@cato9433 ok then go do illegal things and you'll see if no one stops you. you are in LALA LAND my friend
@auditpundit well simply filming in a public place doesnt make his presence a criminal matter/aggrevated trespass so its defo a civil matter, hence why the police threatened him with another crime altogether of "breach of the peace", which he wasn't actually guilty of either because to cause a breach of the peace you must be "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to provoke a breach of the peace or whereby a breach of the peace is likely to be occasioned". If you have any info to the contrary i would like to know but seems pretty cut and dry, legally he was in the right and the staff and police just got in their feelings.
@@ItsEasyJustLift The BoP would have been for attempting re-entry after being banned. Nobody is claiming filming is criminal. But if you're on private property and you're filming they simply invoke trespass law to get you off the premises. Even though it's a civil offence the security are allowed to use force to remove someone, so if you use "self defence" against lawful force, that would amount to an assault. Therefore "warning" them he would use self defence constitutes a threat.
I like your style you're polite but not too polite. Too many auditors in my opinion are too polite too avoid getting arrested or other issues. Although I can understand that it's nice seeing an auditor standing and unwilling to move
Not a bad audit but i’m afraid that idiot cop owned you. You’ll get better though…watch PTTP & Focus Pocus, top notch auditors
Oh no. A man with a camera interfering with normal operations of a corporation quick call the corporate policy enforcement officers who will turn up in 30 seconds to protect the private organisation. It is a shame when a member of the public is a victim of crime and the police turn up four hours later.
lol its the accent we have, scotsmen are instantly deemed aggresive 😅😅
The black cop reacted good to take the conversation somewhere private since you were free to film there. The other cop ignored your question if you were detained and then lost his temper afterwards because you were so persistent, very unprofessional to lose your temper like that. And also this cop doesnt really listen to people so whats the point in having this job then ? This guy doesnt want to have a conversation because he is very biased, he said you werent supposed to go back in because you were causing a nuisance to them.
If you believe its legal, why did you not go back in if it is still a public space?
Crazy how completely Incompetent the majority of Police seem to be. See it in any job, but it's worrying when they have so much power and most people wouldn't know otherwise!
Brilliant work, show the scumbags up for what they are
I would suggest watching a few PTPT Audits beofre going to a JC ? he has done many & they are always confrontational . Thanks for the Video though . The Job Center NEVER fails to provide content . As for the Smart phones are allowed for QR codes , BUT No recording devices are allowed . That is one of the Great Universal Conundrums 🤣
Why does Job Centres need so many G4S security guards? Who is paying for all of that?
Thank you for go to Stratford job centre great job you're the man
Take notes from Power To The Proletariat Recent audit at the job centre
But they did infringe on your rights because you didn’t go back in. So they kinda won. If you get arrested, sue them
There was never any law being broken in this video so you could have gone back in there don't know why you didn't
The carpet looks rancid , just saying 🫤
when ya get time look at
Power To The Proletariat and see how he handles job centres ,
There own guidelines state they cannot stop you, tell them to check there policies.
1. You shouldn't of left the building, g4s have no legal right to touch you UNLESS to self defend themselves which is in their policy!
2. Even the police cannot remove you for filming from a public place which a job center is, they may ask but they have no legal right at all.!
3. Wait untill the pigs are about to leave before asking if their cctv is on and filmed you.
Its a process and learning curve but stick in there pal good work keep going 👍🏻
False report needs reporting & the copper.
“They’ve made a false report”
Plod with no hat, …”that’s absolutely fine”.
Therein lies the problem with modern Plod. There only to support the Government and large Companies. Besides, photography isn’t a crime. Who in the control room said trespass was a criminal matter?
PS. And yes, Plod with no hat broke the Law. We all know why by now, surely…
They were aggressive and asking you why you are being aggressive ,if they were not aggressive in the first place then you would not have been stern with them .
I have asked before but i will ask again, Since when are g4s running the job centre's?
Door men in charge🤔
Who owns g4s
Puzzled new subscriber - why didn't you go back in? I didn't hear anyone revoke your implied access. Can I recommend watching a few Power to the Proletariat Jobcentre audits? He's got it nailed down perfectly. The power of his argument is normally the cost to the DWP for each & every violation. Think the figure he uses is 'a maximum of €20m', which I believe is correct. He's made quite a few jaws drop.
Deffo get a complaint in against both cops. Obvious for the one who talked to you, and a refusal to identify for the other (unless I missed the basturd replying).
Because he is a typical scott, mouthy and talks a lot but says nothing.
And backs out when he wasn't trespassed.........Typical jock.
Auditors are ok in there place but the laws needs to change, the photography law was from back in 72 when people didn't have cameras on there phones and small camera that you can wear wasn't a thing, places like job centers and anywhere someone may or could be divulging private information it should be iligal for a member of the public to record, truly UK law needs to change
The public should not be seeing anyone's private information. That onus is on the organization that holds it. For example in a job centre they have QR codes for scanning the details of a job. So how does one scan the code without a recording device?
Fyi every job centre has been sent a memo regarding recording in the public area which is permitted.
The do not like being watched
funny when security commits offences its always „absolutly fine“ … lol
So why doesn’t the muppet go and arrest the caller for making a false report ????
What grounds could they arrest you for? If you went back into the building. I thought you was not doing anything illegal.?
aggravated tresspass
Public building, these police need educating
TERRIBLE officer.
No skills.
LOL. These people are not used to dealing with highly intelligent, educated members of public. They will remember you for a long time.
Well you didn't go back in.
10:50 showing great juggling skills, i wonder if he could balance a rug on his head
F for Failure by the Auditor. You should have stayed in or gone back in. You have now made it more difficult for other Auditors.
Easier said than done! When you're watching videos from comfort it's easy to scrutinise but I'm sure it's scary being threatened by goons. But yes he's rights were violated and the goons got away with it, as per.