Thank you for mentioning Ashley Massaro. Reading the lawsuit, I feel now that Vince and Johnny are indirectly responsible even more for Ashley's death.
Absolutely. Same with Daffney and the TNA garbage she went through also. Just, these companies are unreal. Treat people like shit, throw them away when finished with them, and oh what consequences? Not for us!
@@LordLOC I do love the whole Innocent before guilty, but this clown has gotten away with so much, it literally almost makes the statement void, in his case and shows the trouble with laws Vince McMahon has won so many lawsuits he should have lost. Has somehow stayed out of jail, when anyone who actually knows him, knows he's guilty of most of the things that have been brought against him. If your money and power can save you that much, must be an underlieing issue. I still can't even get over the Owen Hart tragedy. Supposedly it's not his fault he's dead... Pretty sure he was running the company and hired the jokers who he paid very little to to save cost, what's the life of one his wrestlers, o wait "independent contractors". If a hell exists I have no doubt Vince will be present. Obviously he doesn't care but godamn. If Vince can somehow stay out of jail for all he has done, it really shows that all that matters is Money and Power, and some sick weirdo like Vince even though he's near death, can do whatever he wants. This stupid man, loses a worker, and just keeps the show going, which in my opinion is complete nonsense. It should have never been aloud, it's now a crime scene... You don't keep working in a godamn crime scene. To all the people who said in the past " The Show must go on" its fake wrestling, it's like a TV show.... Vince showed his true colors many times before that night, and many times after. It's not suprising what's happening to him. He's done enough to deserve to pay for at least something with time... Hopefully it happens, but I don't see him in jail, and it's sad because it's obvious he has been deserved of jail time, as any normal person who has his track record, would be in jail... Multiple times....
Many deaths he's somewhat responsible for. I mean Hercules heart probably not explode, if Vince didn't have a doctor pushing drugs on the wrestlers giving them any amount they wanted. Which of course Vince lied about under oath.... I mean he lied so much and played stupid, even though the wrestlers were saying Vince told them to take more. The one wrestler who didn't I know of is the Warlord, which is probably because he didn't need to get any bigger and obviously knew he was taking alot lol. Rick Rude, was told by Vince, you look better on Roids, so take more of em. This guy definitely has a lot of blood on his hands.
The only thing that sucks is Vince McMahon man never went to prison. Sucks even more that this man is a billionaire that can live out the rest of his life in comfort.
Vince being a complete degenerate and creep isn’t a surprise. This is the same guy that wanted a storyline where he impregnated his daughter or booked Trish to bark like a dog
With all current trend of Political Correct Culture I find it funny that these accusations (recent ones) come from an adult +18 fully cognitive female that agreed to all what happened and (apparently) wasn't hand force to do anything and for the looks of it, she only spoke about everything she agreed to, just because people stopped sending her money. I mean, according to what is being said, Brock asked her for a video of herself peeing, and she send it, two consensual adults, so how could Brock be a villian under that circumstance, they weren't even on the same physical location when that happened... and she AGREED to a personal meeting afterwards. This is not about morals or "bad men do bad things to innocent woman" this is all about money and convenience for the looks of it
There is always a random CM Puke fanboy claiming "Punk new" (something or whatever) related to X topic as if he were a messiah or something which is FAAAR from the truth, stop idolizing Punk, he isn't even a good wrestler to begin with, stop believing in hype
The guy was hiding in plain sight the entire time with all that crap he pulled with the likes of Trish and Stacey, I'm honestly stunned it took this long to actually get him done for it.
Sort of like Bill Cosby who in his stand up show for years joked about drugging women. Joked about spanish fly being put in women's drinks on a album he released called It's True It's True. He was hiding in plain sight all along too.
I think as he got older and quite frankly, closer to death, he was like "well, I'm going to be dead soon, might as well live out all my fantasies while I can". It's one thing to go to jail for life when you're 40 or 50, it's another when you're in your mid 70s. It's like watching porn...after a while, it take more and more to get the same reaction.
@@mattm7798 If you're finding it harder to enjoy the same sort of porn then it might be worth seeing a doctor or mentioning it to one. I've taken medication before that really messed with my sexual function, I think it was a prostate thing. Point being it's a thing that can happen, and if it's slowly over time then changes in your watching habits may be how you notice it. Either way it's not normal to need to watch "more and more", you should be able to enjoy what you enjoy. Personally I think creeps do this sort of shit because they can get away with it, and the more they push the more they realise they can get away with it. It's why accountability is so important, sure, most people are decent enough, but for the ones that aren't they really need to be caught as soon as possible. Which isn't to say there isn't some sort of escalation in what they want. But I think it's mostly just because they realize they can get away with it.
The guy is innocent until proven guilty. At the moment these are still just allegations. It doesn’t look good for him but these allegations need to be tested in a court
Triple h is his son in law, so technically one mcmahon still has considerable influence in wwe. However, he is rumored to have separated from stephanie, so if that's true then the mcmahons indeed have no influence in wwe.
Vince is likely spending every waking moment trying to weasel his way out of this situation by settling things out of court and after that point he will spend EVERY waking moment in an attempt to get his company back, even if he is in his 100's he will never give up.
The people who are always screaming "u dont wanna work at AEW, its unprofessional!" ..... "come to wwe, where vince and Johnny ace will sexually harass and abuse low level desk jokeys and you have to turn a blind eye and pretend its not happening"
@@heyyoitsmebrian President Khan reportedly emailed the executives stating that Vince McMahon has no involvement, nor any control in TKO's operations. Johnny Ace has been gone for what seems like ages.
This is the same thing that happened to FIFA. Despite the widespread stories of corruption the only thing that forced them to enact some change was the threat of sponsors withdrawing their money.
The mighty bag of money make everyone change course.. 😂 It happens all of the time.. Threaten to take away what's important to them and watch how fast things change for the better.. Money is king and it shows..
That's the name of the game. Time and time again, these type situations are covered up until the money is under serious threat, then it suddenly become actionable.
Exactly, it's depressing how it always comes down to money over human life and wellbeing. And you just know that all kind of shadiness is still going on inside football, even sexual misconduct (if I had kids I would never send them to certain academies, let's just say that much)
I had a thought that might add one to the many, many points that prove Vince is a narcissist. An NDA can’t stand if it’s in relation to a crime. No one can force to you to sign an NDA to keep criminal activity a secret. Vince had to know this to begin with, considering the man is legitimately an extremely talented business man. He had to have known that law. Vince had to have been so arrogant that he believed that law wouldn’t apply to him.
True, legally it wouldn't but until Thursday, she was keeping the alleged crime under and NDA. The major ? is why did he stop paying her? This isn't 1984 and some promoter who has not ability to fight back. This is a woman with an allegedly real story with real evidence....and Vince knew that. The only thing I can think of is the money would have left a paper trail back to Vince leaving him criminally liable, but then he personally would have had more than enough money to complete the payments. Maybe she has a skeleton in her closet Vince was counting on to prevent her from talking and she just said screw it, if I go down, I'm taking them down with me. The craziest theory is it was an accounting oversight and he meant to pay her but it got lost in the shuffle.
@@Niko-fj4mo If you read the Dispo, she is accusing him of Sexually Human Trafficking her to others around "Said the organization" WWE. He was sending her photos and videos that he was recording of them having sex to others and offering others her services. Also, she kept saying over, and over, and over again that she wanted no part of sexual activity. Yet every time she said no, he would say yea, well not only will i fire you. But i will make sure from a litigation point that you don't stand a chance in court against my legal team.
None of us should be that surprised, we've all known Vince was an absolute creep and monster. It's just that he got away with it for so long by throwing money at it or hiding behind the WWE company. I agree it's uncomfortable watching WWE with everything that's gone down with the company.
Seriously, he made Trish status strip and bark like a dog on tv. So when this story came out I just thought of segment like this and think yeah he’s guilty.
We knew he was creepy and ruthless, but this is a whole other level. It's bad enough to ask for sexual favors in exchange for money...that happens literally every day and is horrible...but to do some of the perverted sexual acts and then to share pictures, offer her to other men, and virtually rape them...that's just another level of evil. If even 50% of her allegations are true, Vince belongs behind bars and his nuts cut off!
Hate to say it, but if you don't think his daughter or Hunter did not know, you are kidding yourself. All our favorite heroes and tough guys like Undertaker (those closest to him) knew, and looked the other way.
The silence of every past top guy of Vince's is deafening. So far, only HBK has spoken a word on the subject, and it was a nothingburger vague statement to let himself off the hook.
Sometimes I really question why I had to become a professional wrestling fan. The stuff that goes on across this industry, at all levels, is horrifying at times. Quite frankly, it can be extremely embarrassing to admit to people this is the form of entertainment that I've been a lifelong fan of when stories like this make headlines.
While I agree he deserves his day in court I also agree with the belief that they can't all be lying. With the whole Fabulous Moolah situation and everything else we KNOW about Vince and the many outlandish sexual stories surrounding him and his various inner circles over the DECADES this makes me wonder if he was involved in the whole Moolah situation and she was just the one who took the fall - even though she deserved the fall - so he could avoid the spotlight. This whole thing just raises so many questions.
When he retired the first time , he still owned wwe. He was gone but he wasn't gone. Now hes finished forever. If he wants to go to a wwe event he has to buy a ticket. Its a very surreal feeling. Because now it feels like we're in a truly new era.
I'm curious how many other talents knew the full details of Vince's "activities." Has The Undertaker, the locker room general, judge of the wrestler's court, and eternal loyalist during the Monday Night Wars heard nothing about this all these years? Not a peep?
I'm pretty sure even guys like Shawn, Haitch, Rock, Cena knew of this and kept hush, hell I'm sure even talent like R-Truth knew about this if not the particular extent to which Vince was doing this
Jerry McDevitt should be held to a higher standard than the wrestlers, because he was the one that helped him get away with doing all this crap & not trying to curb his behavior. He was in on all these evil acts as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they knew of his affairs as they seemed to be an open secret…now the extent of what was being done, maybe not unless they were directly involved. My bf mentioned how his former boss was cheating on his wife. He and his other coworkers knew about it, but not the personal side of it or what was happening between them. Probably assumed all was consensual.
Dunno, on a 2003 Smackdown episode, he wanted Undertaker's wife to be r*ped by a gang of bikers. Well, at least now we know how that line managed to make the final cut
This incident makes you reconsider those gawd-awful creepy as hall story lines from the 2000's through the Daniel Bryan era in a whole new light. Vince sure as hell wasn't the only creepoid working backstage.
I'm not gonna say I'm surprised that any of this happened, but I'm certainly shocked at the details. It's like my worst nightmares were all written out in reality.
Man I had a feeling that back in summer of 2022 that this whole situation with Vince McMahon and the allegations against him, this wasn’t going to be the end of it. Honestly I was not expecting a resignation, more like a forcing out. It’s definitely the end of McMahon, he’s not gonna be back, he’s a legal liability.
The most convincing thing to me weren't the disgusting big things in the lawsuit, it was the smaller throwaway details. Like Linda McMahon finding out about it, coinciding with reports about her and Vince no longer living together. Brock Lesnar getting a new contract & threatening to walk out with Vince gone. The hush money stop coming in right around when people were taking a closer looking into the finances around signed NDAs
Also wonder if Vince knew this was gonna bite him in the ass sooner or later and was probably why he was pushing that WWE-Netflix doc on himself, a last attempt at a legacy puff piece
History might prove me wrong here, but considering the nature of the charges and the… tenuous position WWE brand is in after the recent merger, this resignation might actually stick.
I think it will stick. The last time, Vince used his power of being the largest stockholder in WWE as leverage to get back into the company. Since he sold his shares to Endeavor when he helped forged TKO Group Holdings with the UFC, he lost that leverage. I think we've truly entered the twilight of the Vince McMahon era. Though it would not shock me if he tried to form a new wrestling promotion.
Oh he is done if even half of the allegations are true. Unless it can be proven she is utterly making up lies, he'll be lucky if leaving WWE is the worst thing that happens to him.
personally, I think forming the merger was a hail mary pass for Vince to maintain power, since if it hadn't happened, the board of director's could have linked the hush money with company funds to Vince and it wouldn't have mattered how many shares he held. The major ? for me....why did he stop paying her?@@TaliaIGhul
If I remember correctly when Vince came back the last time several board members resigned and one was quoted as saying something along the lines of he couldn't remain with the company in good moral conscience. It makes me wonder now if they actually found out the true extent of what he was getting up to
Its not comforting knowing Vince McMahon is gone. If what lawsuit says is even slightly true specially regarding trafficking, we are dealing with a company filled with predators.
She said she wast trafficked to two of Vinces friends and then Brock was going to be but didnt happen. No other wrestlers were mentioned. Why is this a narrative people are trying to push online? Read the filing.
@@alesitercrimson24if you actually read the filing you would know while she wasn’t traffic to many, he was at least somewhat open about the “relationship”. He shared explicit photos of here and groped her in the head quarter with workers around. The filling makes it clear that Vince wasn’t super sererive about it. Now we don’t know the extent of how many knew. chance it was only the higher ups in the headquarters but there’s also a chance, a good chance, it goes much deeper then that.
The industry depends MOSTLY on the health and reputation of WWE. Even if someone's taste is more AEW or NJPW or abcxyz, they likely arrived to that amidst exposure to WWE. So, that kind of obvious traffic makes it impossible to deny what Vince built... but the things AND PEOPLE he's destroyed has got to serve as a reminder that it's just rasslin. I'm looking forward to a hopefully great Royal Rumble while also trying not to barf. Good luck, fellow carnies!
I’m still trying to process wtf just happened in the past 60 hours. We went from WWE having all this positive attention, to then getting negative attention, to now getting positive attention again. Z Man, you said it best during your Best Of Wrestling 2022 video, “a creepy old man who paid the women he employed to stay silent.”
Yeah your first part is why I think it’s a smear campaign. Even tho I doubt he is clean. He is definitely dirty. But the timing. I get it. If you have a free sue card in your back pocket you gotta use it now. We didn’t hear anything til we heard he was selling then it comes out. You add that with his age and know he is about to die (you can’t sue his kids for this) we about to see a lot more money grabs unfortunately.
@@martyhogsed5172 Go away with that shit, Vince is a well known control freak and weirdo, there were texts, Vince stepped down immediately. If your instant reaction is 'smear campaign' for his money, you're not very bright at all.
@@martyhogsed5172You are on the wrong side of history. Don't excuse the man.. It's as likely TKO is rushing this stuff out because they knew it was coming.
Without a note of irony, a poorly handled terrible event was the catalyst for my leaving wrestling for the first time, Owen Hart being killed. Then I left for another terrible event, Chris Benoit's horrific act. Now I think I might leave modern wrestling again. The three times all have the same common denominator, wwf/wwe and Vince McMahon.
Having to be subjected to all that by Vince is bad enough, but to have to be sent to Johnny Ace hotel room each morning is sickening. And after two years Linda is still choosing not to divorce Vince speaks volumes
This has been going on since the beginning. Everyone knows about Moolah and her operation, but no one's ever asked who her clients were. Some things to keep in mind as things unfold: 1. There's no way Ms. Grant is the only victim of this nature. It's happened to others and hopefully this is the powderkeg that helps bring to light more of his actions. With that said: 2. There's no way Lesnar (or whomever the speculated UFC Champion in question is) was the only top guy Vince used this sort of bargaining chip with. Start looking at all the guys he bent backwards for over the decades. If this starts getting even uglier, if more voices start being heard, be prepared to start hearing a lot of top names involved in this sort of thing with Vince long before this incident. 3. There's no way McMahon was brazen enough to be showing even random tech guys the videos and pictures without a LOT of wrestlers being in the know as well. Absolutely no way. This has the potential to get the ugliest this business has ever seen. A lot of our "heroes" are about to disappoint us immensely.
Heavy on that third one. Its a shame that some of our favorites for years are going to turn out as huge creeps who abused their power :/ It makes me wonder naturally but still justice for all the victims.
While I agree with you on the third point you also have to realize the risks of telling him to stop. You know, losing your top spot, getting less matches, potential release. The wrestlers aren't innocent but weren't in a spot to take action either.
for your 3rd point. The wrestlers knew he was fucking some young attractive woman. That does not mean they had any idea that any sexual abuse was going on.
@@echidnae2418 Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. I need my current job, but if I found out my boss had raped someone I work with, my 'spot', the job, everything can go right out the door in service of having decent morals. Anyone who turned a blind eye to this, just to protect their spot, is human fucking garbage.
@@poke9051It's not like the WWE didn't show it's abuse of women in the spotlight. We have watched a lot of sexual abuse and it was chalked up as sports entertainment with multiple old white men squeeling about puppies.
The biggest take away: No wrestling company is truly ran 100% professionally. People want to make it out like AEW is the most unprofessional, chaotic place you can work at; nah, that’s every company
@@alesitercrimson24 How is that even remotely relevant? Dude said he doesn't want to give money to people in charge of WWE, not that he gave up on wrestling. Or do you stupidly think him watching this video by Brian somehow funds WWE?
@@alesitercrimson24 plenty of folks watch youtube vids about stuff they arent interesed in because they are interested in the person making the video. I just watched an hour long video about bingo the other day because the person who made the video is a good storyteller and ive never played bingo a day in my life. Kinda weird how you jumped to the "why are you here" angle.
Women on Regretful Sex or Drunken Sex doesn’t mean Rape or Assault Sad so many women go after guys who they had some type of relationship in past decades and they gave up they’re body willingly to get ahead of the competition basically they Slut themselves up and years later they feel ashamed so they take the man to court is a win in they’re head and they genuinely feel they’re taking back they’re innocence
She knew what she was doing. If she got the other 2 mil she was owed, we never would have heard about it and she would have continued to get her head pooped on
They say the best wrestling characters are your own personality with the volume turned up to 11. Turns out Vince's wrestling persona was his own personality turned down to 11. Thank you Vince for everything you've done for the wrestling business over the years, now don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Anyone who knew about this needs to go. Doing nothing or protecting him by covering up for him is awful. I expect many, many terminations or resignations. Clean house
I really don't expect much to come of this other than Vince leaving. I doubt many people knew of the actual nature of the affair. Some people might have known he was cheating on his wife, but that is very different from knowing he was sex trafficking. You would have to prove they actually knew the nature of the affair and covered it up in order to fire them or else you are going to run afoul of plenty of labor laws.
Exactly... any wrestlers that knew should be gone. Even if its guys like doink, brian Christopher, crush, razor ramon, the narcissist Lex Luger, they too need to be held accountable
Lesnar was directly brought up as a participant in the court documents. So I wouldn't expect to see him for a while in either the squared circle or octagon.
It’s a shame that Vince’s selfish, reckless, disturbing behavior (and anyone who covered it up) could affect thousands of people who had nothing to do with it😢
Thank you, Brian, for your thoughts. I think you're spot on and your take is one of the more sincere responses. You take it from a serious position without making fun of the situation (unlike some people).
To be fair, the woman who is suing Vince, made a choice. She could of easily said no and walked away, but she stayed so she can get paid better. She could of have done anything else besides working WWE. Just saying. Life is about choices and trade-offs.
Having these allegations sink in has made it hard for me to enjoy wrestling as a whole. McMahon’s fingerprints are all over the product going back decades, almost every iconic moment that I otherwise want to enjoy goes back to him. He was on commentary, he was on screen, he was friends with all the major stars, he created iconic characters and orchestrated everything that happened. I was more hyped for the Royal Rumble than I have been for almost any other show in recent years, and now it’s largely been replaced with a feeling of uneasiness. All I know right now is that seeing your face and hearing your take on the situation, Brian, is a big source of comfort. You’ve been a constant source of measured, level headed takes over my entire wrestling fandom, and I’m glad we still have you to be the string that ties it all together. Thank you, and let’s hope we can come together as a wrestling community to move past the horrific actions of Vince and his lackeys.
Personally all this doesn't really make the current product more uncomfortable to watch since it hasn't had input from Vince since HHH got full creative control. With that being said, any Vince guy left in the company should be checked out just in case. Wouldn't surprise me if Kevin Dunn was in on it but he's gone so not much to do there but perhaps there are others.
Thank you Brian for making this video man. I was reading the news the other day and I was having the same feelings. Like how can I support a company that hid all of this for years, if not decades? How can I just pretend that everything is okay when I know that there’s people in the company who knew Vince/Johnny Ace were being scum of the earth? Idk man it’s just…frustrating because WWE has helped me make some cool memories over the years but now it all seems tarnished.
These accusations are insane and honestly would be hard to believe if they weren’t linked to an NDA. That NDA is the smoking gun for me and it ruins any defense Vince could ever think of. Those aren’t the kind of accusations you just pay off someone to not talk about if they weren’t true. Gonna be fun to watch Vince and his cohorts go down for this.
Bryan Zane: "IT CAN'T ALL BE A LIE!" Me: Staring at previous cases and other similar cases where the accusers literally all fabricated their story and lied. Fact of the matter is, yes, accusations from multiple people can ALL be a LIE. Vince McMahon's however, I am more on the side of the accuser, with still a mind towards "innocent until proven guilty", but it's really hard to believe he is innocent, due to Vince McMahon's past actions and behaviours.
Years ago in my innocence, I used to think the likes of Raven & Moxley were kayfabing about all the messed-up sexual or scatological things they'd seen and done in the business, both inside the WWE/WWF and out of it. Now I know they were probably downplaying it.
I’m curious what other fallout results from this. That’s the thing with systemic abuse is it’s rarely isolated. With new ownership and management, TKO might clean house entirely of everyone remotely associated with Vince. I’m not going to point fingers of who’s complicit and who isn’t within WWE, but buckle up, this is just the beginning.
Another thing with watching The Royal Rumble this weekend: the suit alleges that it wasn't just Vince and Laurenitis, but other staff and even some wrestlers... it might be easy to figure out Brock is one of the talent being mentioned but it does make one think: if somebody that should be in the rumble tonight isn't, is that because they just aren't in the rumble? or is it because they could potentially be named in this suit later and WWE/TKO is already starting to sever ties with them?
I think it reflects really badly on TKO that was allowed to resign before they fired him and took away every part of his golden parachute possible. I hope his victims take everything from him.
I hope that Vince is gone for good and I hope that this prevents him from ever going on the WWE Hall of Fame. Also let's not forget that the Benoit family murder/suicide also technically happened under Vince's watch. And the WWE schedule could be partially to blame for Eddie Guerrero's death
The Benoit thing is something nobody knew would happen because CTE wasn't fully understood back then, especially not in wrestling. Eddie's death was due to steroid abuse but Vince might have approved that steroid usage so I could see a link there.
@@user-we3me3dg1y You don't associate with something like that. The murder-suicide was not because of them. As stated, CTE was not very well understood at the time and once people found out more about it they stopped doing headshots and stuff like that.
You talk about the Benoit & Guerrero deaths, yet, what about Owen Hart? WWE was grossly negligent in making him use a cheap $68 sail boat clip to do that unnecessary stunt that he was forced to do. Benoit & Guerrero CHOSE to do drugs. They CHOSE to take so much damage to their bodies. Benoit decided to kill his family. Guerrero's past caught up to him.. Owen wasn't given a choice. And WWE got away with their negligence, & even today, fans still treat his widow as the bad guy because she won't let this scum company put him in their hall of fame, which is just an internet page done for profit. However, it was disgusting to see WWE air Benoit's breakdown for Eddie on live TV in the so called "tribute." That emotional breakdown was not appropriate for TV, & when you watch Benoit, it is blatantly clear that this was a man that needed help. Also putting on tribute to Benoit before knowing all the facts was an incompetent & indefensible decision. The way the families of Chris & Nancy were treated by WWE is truly reprehensible.
Vince McMahon had Trish Stratus on her hands and knees barking like a dog in the middle of the ring. Plus all the other stuff he did with her like having a dirty mop wiped all over her. So this guy clearly has a twisted side to him
For me the hardest thing for me to explain about this to someone who isn't a wrestling fan is Vince's impact on the industry. I can't think of another industry that has been as shaped and influenced by one person the way wrestling has been by Vince. I think this emphasizes how important it is for all companies and the industry as a whole to take a good hard look at itself in the mirror to make sure that nothing like what is alleged here ever happens again.
I’ve been totally picturing Stephanie getting divorce papers in the mail with a note, “It’s all about the game and how you play it” using Brian’s triple h voice.
Reminder: We’re still in January! This year has already been wild with some of the things I’ve seen outside of WWE. (Things that I REALLY don’t wanna talk about.)
Weird how sometimes you can read these lawsuits and think "no way, this person is just out for money." In reading this one though, I could totally believe everything in it. Even aside from his heel character, he's never come across as someone who was interested in anyone except himself.
Always wonder what people like the Undertaker must think now! He’s made no secret of his love for Vince during their 34 year professional relationship. I assume Shane and Stephanie have cut ties with their father?
Sad thing is they must have known on some level. Just bevause Undertaker was a legend doesn't mean he's completely innocent. Loyalty may have made him keep his mouth shut.
I say this once every few years. Not a huge wrestling fan anymore but i must dompliment you on your videos. You are believable, honest, engaging and have an excellent delivery. Thanks for the vids
Well said. Great vid. Right to the point. Vince resigning isn't the end of this. The enablers need to be held accountable. Wwe needs a complete fresh start.
This doesn't surprise me at all. Culture is typical of any big money company who made their fortune before 2005. Probably also explains why Disney never bought WWE.
The "top WWE star" is a "former UFC Heavyweight champion". That could be anyone who is named Brock Lesnar. I don't think he's going to a surprise Rumble winner this year.
Heres why ill keep watching, not everyone who works and or worked at WWE was involved with covering us this stuff. I know Brian ans Jim Cornette arent the best of friends anymore, but hearing Jim laugh his ass off whilst saying basically, "this isnt suprising". I dont think a lot of todays talent had anything to do with this, especially people like Roman, Rock and Cody. Ill keep watching for the same reason i kept watching after Chris Benoit, this company is too big at this point, for every person there to have been involved. As a closing point, i find it very weird that people want Stephanie back. She certainly has every right to come back, but i dont think she or Paul Levesque want to be associated with Vince for too much longer. I feel awful for Stephanie having to live with the digisting excuse of a man thats her father, and i feel even worse for Ms.Grant. Anyways..have a nice day everyone!
@5:14 You are indeed far from the only person who is conflicted over enjoying the WWE product now. It's like enjoying the music of R Kelly or Lost Prophets. Bout time many fans saw the company for what it is, and the realisation of what it has been built on. The smartest fans walked away years ago. Hell, it's why alternatives even exist. But good luck to the e-marks defending this crap now.. we've been telling you for years 🤦🏻♂️
*_If_* this is true I have nothing left to say except for fingers crossed that this is the torpedo to finally sink him. He wiggled his way out of way too many horrible things
"Here we go again... Again."- Scorcher VI How long before Vince tries to weasel his way back into company? Yes, you heard me. Do not let your guard down. Unless he drops dead, it's 100% possible he'll come back.
I have been listening to so many of your videos in the background, when playing EA FC 24, thank you for your great insight and entertainment. Although, this video I would not call entertaining... although, a fantastic rant which I think we can all agree with. Such a shame too with the timing, also the fact that WWE storyline-wise and star-power-wise, is in the best shape it's been in, in years and on the eve of the biggest royal rumble in over a decade.
A lot of people right now have targeted Triple H as someone who must have known about Vince's allegations and did nothing about it, and or possibly even protected Vince. Obviously, in comparison to the bigger issues at hand, this is a minor question, but should TKO clean out more of Vince's closest associates and do actually sack Trips if he had any involvement in the cover up, what on Earth happens to WWE then? I can't see who would take his place, because so much of WWE's corporate management has been focused on maintaining power, rather than building up people who could replace these roles should something happen. It would be a complete rebuilding process for the company, and TKO would place people they trust in those positions, but possibly don't know anything about wrestling and could create a new set of headaches at a time of great business. It'll be interesting to see the domino effect this has and how much TKO are willing to try and clean WWE, since it's clear the culture in the company has been rotten for decades.
Mr. McMahon apparently ISN'T the biggest heel in pro wrestling. Vince is the real deal when it comes to that role
Or rather that hole...
@@mtgamateurnight booooooooo that was bad and you should be disappointed in yourself
@MrAlmostEasy69 that was funny 🤷♂️
@@mtgamateurnight😂
Bro, c’mon…
Thank you for mentioning Ashley Massaro. Reading the lawsuit, I feel now that Vince and Johnny are indirectly responsible even more for Ashley's death.
Directly and indirectly, they made her life a living hell back in the 2000s.
That wasn't him, but he did cover it up.
Absolutely. Same with Daffney and the TNA garbage she went through also. Just, these companies are unreal. Treat people like shit, throw them away when finished with them, and oh what consequences? Not for us!
@@LordLOC I do love the whole Innocent before guilty, but this clown has gotten away with so much, it literally almost makes the statement void, in his case and shows the trouble with laws
Vince McMahon has won so many lawsuits he should have lost. Has somehow stayed out of jail, when anyone who actually knows him, knows he's guilty of most of the things that have been brought against him.
If your money and power can save you that much, must be an underlieing issue.
I still can't even get over the Owen Hart tragedy. Supposedly it's not his fault he's dead... Pretty sure he was running the company and hired the jokers who he paid very little to to save cost, what's the life of one his wrestlers, o wait "independent contractors".
If a hell exists I have no doubt Vince will be present. Obviously he doesn't care but godamn.
If Vince can somehow stay out of jail for all he has done, it really shows that all that matters is Money and Power, and some sick weirdo like Vince even though he's near death, can do whatever he wants.
This stupid man, loses a worker, and just keeps the show going, which in my opinion is complete nonsense. It should have never been aloud, it's now a crime scene...
You don't keep working in a godamn crime scene.
To all the people who said in the past " The Show must go on" its fake wrestling, it's like a TV show.... Vince showed his true colors many times before that night, and many times after.
It's not suprising what's happening to him. He's done enough to deserve to pay for at least something with time...
Hopefully it happens, but I don't see him in jail, and it's sad because it's obvious he has been deserved of jail time, as any normal person who has his track record, would be in jail... Multiple times....
Many deaths he's somewhat responsible for. I mean Hercules heart probably not explode, if Vince didn't have a doctor pushing drugs on the wrestlers giving them any amount they wanted.
Which of course Vince lied about under oath.... I mean he lied so much and played stupid, even though the wrestlers were saying Vince told them to take more.
The one wrestler who didn't I know of is the Warlord, which is probably because he didn't need to get any bigger and obviously knew he was taking alot lol.
Rick Rude, was told by Vince, you look better on Roids, so take more of em. This guy definitely has a lot of blood on his hands.
It really sucks to find out a man is exactly who you think he is.
I've known for a long time he was a human crocodile, but this shocked me.
The only thing that sucks is Vince McMahon man never went to prison. Sucks even more that this man is a billionaire that can live out the rest of his life in comfort.
Vince being a complete degenerate and creep isn’t a surprise. This is the same guy that wanted a storyline where he impregnated his daughter or booked Trish to bark like a dog
This happens alot to Kings, Dictators, Emperors, Prime Ministers, Presidents, CEOs, etc.
With all current trend of Political Correct Culture I find it funny that these accusations (recent ones) come from an adult +18 fully cognitive female that agreed to all what happened and (apparently) wasn't hand force to do anything and for the looks of it, she only spoke about everything she agreed to, just because people stopped sending her money.
I mean, according to what is being said, Brock asked her for a video of herself peeing, and she send it, two consensual adults, so how could Brock be a villian under that circumstance, they weren't even on the same physical location when that happened... and she AGREED to a personal meeting afterwards.
This is not about morals or "bad men do bad things to innocent woman" this is all about money and convenience for the looks of it
I knew that Vince was telling on himself by growing that silent movie villain mustache. It practically screamed “investigate me further! Bwahahaha!”
They got to him just in time before he tied her up to some railroad tracks
lol
thank you for mentioning Ashley Massaro!
Yes, definitely agree.
She deserved so much better
One of the most heartbreaking things I've ever heard. That poor woman deserves soo much more justice and we need to keep saying her name ❤
@IStevenSeagal Source please
@@GodLovesYou828 yer maws a source
So Punk, this personal story about Vince McMahon you wanted to tell during your pipebomb...
CM Karen knew what was going on and helped cover it up.
@@dangerousdays2052 CM Karen XD idea of Punk demanding to see a manager... Yeah, I can see it!
There is always a random CM Puke fanboy claiming "Punk new" (something or whatever) related to X topic as if he were a messiah or something which is FAAAR from the truth, stop idolizing Punk, he isn't even a good wrestler to begin with, stop believing in hype
@@ElBribri Facts.
@@dangerousdays2052 Absolutely 100%. God, seeing Punk get crapped on is so cathartic. Never liked him. Either as a person or as a wrestler.
Brian I'm trying to sleep
I'm not. 3rd shift here.
Wake up babe new Wrestling With Wregret videos just dropped
I’m with you lol
Heard that
Ong
The guy was hiding in plain sight the entire time with all that crap he pulled with the likes of Trish and Stacey, I'm honestly stunned it took this long to actually get him done for it.
Sort of like Bill Cosby who in his stand up show for years joked about drugging women. Joked about spanish fly being put in women's drinks on a album he released called It's True It's True. He was hiding in plain sight all along too.
I think as he got older and quite frankly, closer to death, he was like "well, I'm going to be dead soon, might as well live out all my fantasies while I can". It's one thing to go to jail for life when you're 40 or 50, it's another when you're in your mid 70s.
It's like watching porn...after a while, it take more and more to get the same reaction.
@@mattm7798 If you're finding it harder to enjoy the same sort of porn then it might be worth seeing a doctor or mentioning it to one. I've taken medication before that really messed with my sexual function, I think it was a prostate thing. Point being it's a thing that can happen, and if it's slowly over time then changes in your watching habits may be how you notice it. Either way it's not normal to need to watch "more and more", you should be able to enjoy what you enjoy.
Personally I think creeps do this sort of shit because they can get away with it, and the more they push the more they realise they can get away with it. It's why accountability is so important, sure, most people are decent enough, but for the ones that aren't they really need to be caught as soon as possible.
Which isn't to say there isn't some sort of escalation in what they want. But I think it's mostly just because they realize they can get away with it.
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The guy is innocent until proven guilty. At the moment these are still just allegations. It doesn’t look good for him but these allegations need to be tested in a court
Reading the texts in the court documents Vince sounds like an unhinged nut job
Very unsurprising :/
Sounds like? No he's always been one
just like Trump and MAGA supporters.
Yeah. I could only get through a few lines of the texts. Absolutely vile shit
He was never in character. He IS the character. Shame
For the very first time in the history of WWE, the McMahon family has zero influence over the company. This is truly an unbelievable news day.
The WWE would like to wish the McMahon family the best in its future endeavors.
Triple h is his son in law, so technically one mcmahon still has considerable influence in wwe. However, he is rumored to have separated from stephanie, so if that's true then the mcmahons indeed have no influence in wwe.
Wow Triple H and Stephanie seperated? That's sad to hear. @@muhammadrifqi7308
HHH is still there.
Vince is likely spending every waking moment trying to weasel his way out of this situation by settling things out of court and after that point he will spend EVERY waking moment in an attempt to get his company back, even if he is in his 100's he will never give up.
Kevin Dunn just decided to quit all of a sudden…hmmmmm he definitely knows more about Vince
Cornette: You get your buck-tooth beaver ass over here, motherfucker!
😂😂😂
The mental image of those buck teeth grazing someone else's skin has got to be a fate worse than death.
Ol buccee beaver quit because he was just as guilty. Guaranteed
@@sethallen5405 Common twitter logic. Let me yet again reiterate innocent until proven guilty.
@@diabeticmonkey never used that shitty app before, and never will.
All of a sudden, CM Punk getting into a fight with Jack Perry behind the scenes doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.
The people who are always screaming "u dont wanna work at AEW, its unprofessional!"
..... "come to wwe, where vince and Johnny ace will sexually harass and abuse low level desk jokeys and you have to turn a blind eye and pretend its not happening"
@@heyyoitsmebrian
President Khan reportedly emailed the executives stating that Vince McMahon has no involvement, nor any control in TKO's operations. Johnny Ace has been gone for what seems like ages.
And Punk had to know about Vince and still ruined his sweet deal he had there to go back to this
@@LoganSewell83don’t worry about him…just an AEW mark
This is the same thing that happened to FIFA. Despite the widespread stories of corruption the only thing that forced them to enact some change was the threat of sponsors withdrawing their money.
The mighty bag of money make everyone change course.. 😂 It happens all of the time..
Threaten to take away what's important to them and watch how fast things change for the better.. Money is king and it shows..
That's always what happens. These companies only care or do something when it affects their bank accounts.
That's the name of the game. Time and time again, these type situations are covered up until the money is under serious threat, then it suddenly become actionable.
Exactly, money is the ruler of the world it overrides good and bad deeds, its all about money and nothing else
Exactly, it's depressing how it always comes down to money over human life and wellbeing. And you just know that all kind of shadiness is still going on inside football, even sexual misconduct (if I had kids I would never send them to certain academies, let's just say that much)
I had a thought that might add one to the many, many points that prove Vince is a narcissist.
An NDA can’t stand if it’s in relation to a crime. No one can force to you to sign an NDA to keep criminal activity a secret.
Vince had to know this to begin with, considering the man is legitimately an extremely talented business man. He had to have known that law.
Vince had to have been so arrogant that he believed that law wouldn’t apply to him.
There is no criminal case against Vince though, just a civil case. For now, at least.
@@Niko-fj4mo well dont be so sure behind closed doors it might also me criminal case
True, legally it wouldn't but until Thursday, she was keeping the alleged crime under and NDA. The major ? is why did he stop paying her? This isn't 1984 and some promoter who has not ability to fight back. This is a woman with an allegedly real story with real evidence....and Vince knew that.
The only thing I can think of is the money would have left a paper trail back to Vince leaving him criminally liable, but then he personally would have had more than enough money to complete the payments.
Maybe she has a skeleton in her closet Vince was counting on to prevent her from talking and she just said screw it, if I go down, I'm taking them down with me.
The craziest theory is it was an accounting oversight and he meant to pay her but it got lost in the shuffle.
@@Niko-fj4mo If you read the Dispo, she is accusing him of Sexually Human Trafficking her to others around "Said the organization" WWE. He was sending her photos and videos that he was recording of them having sex to others and offering others her services. Also, she kept saying over, and over, and over again that she wanted no part of sexual activity. Yet every time she said no, he would say yea, well not only will i fire you. But i will make sure from a litigation point that you don't stand a chance in court against my legal team.
Just like his friends.
Boy this year is already wild
And it's STILL January.
Just wait till the trial I hope it's televised I'm going to watch every moment
@@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470 Its a civil case....
@@mychaeljones7526 don't get me started on Katt bro
The "Come out you rapist" clip of Vince is trending again
None of us should be that surprised, we've all known Vince was an absolute creep and monster. It's just that he got away with it for so long by throwing money at it or hiding behind the WWE company. I agree it's uncomfortable watching WWE with everything that's gone down with the company.
I watch in support of the talent that is there that did nothing wrong. To stop watching hurts them the most
Everyone is fine with Pat Patterson doing the same to underage boys.
Seriously, he made Trish status strip and bark like a dog on tv. So when this story came out I just thought of segment like this and think yeah he’s guilty.
We knew he was creepy and ruthless, but this is a whole other level. It's bad enough to ask for sexual favors in exchange for money...that happens literally every day and is horrible...but to do some of the perverted sexual acts and then to share pictures, offer her to other men, and virtually rape them...that's just another level of evil.
If even 50% of her allegations are true, Vince belongs behind bars and his nuts cut off!
Let alone Saudi blood money.
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Hate to say it, but if you don't think his daughter or Hunter did not know, you are kidding yourself. All our favorite heroes and tough guys like Undertaker (those closest to him) knew, and looked the other way.
i mean h and steph voted him out years ago from the company
This stuff didn't just come out on its own. Someone whistleblew an that very well could have been HHH and Stephanie
That’s a stretch if you ask me. Business or not, are you aware of your own father/father in-law’s sexual proclivities? And if not, should you be?
The silence of every past top guy of Vince's is deafening. So far, only HBK has spoken a word on the subject, and it was a nothingburger vague statement to let himself off the hook.
Sometimes I really question why I had to become a professional wrestling fan. The stuff that goes on across this industry, at all levels, is horrifying at times. Quite frankly, it can be extremely embarrassing to admit to people this is the form of entertainment that I've been a lifelong fan of when stories like this make headlines.
Ikr I feel this
You got no one to blame except yourself.
This
I mean there isn't any form of entertainment that doesn't have a seedy as fuck side
It’s like this with everything though. Movies, TV, Video Games….
While I agree he deserves his day in court I also agree with the belief that they can't all be lying. With the whole Fabulous Moolah situation and everything else we KNOW about Vince and the many outlandish sexual stories surrounding him and his various inner circles over the DECADES this makes me wonder if he was involved in the whole Moolah situation and she was just the one who took the fall - even though she deserved the fall - so he could avoid the spotlight.
This whole thing just raises so many questions.
When he retired the first time , he still owned wwe. He was gone but he wasn't gone. Now hes finished forever. If he wants to go to a wwe event he has to buy a ticket. Its a very surreal feeling. Because now it feels like we're in a truly new era.
Isnt he still a shsreholder tho
If he does, he'll probably get thrown out like Enzo Amore years ago.
He probably won't live much longer
He had a good run lol
@@thethedeanshow the type of shares he has, the company can force him to sell..... All it takes is a board vote
I'm curious how many other talents knew the full details of Vince's "activities." Has The Undertaker, the locker room general, judge of the wrestler's court, and eternal loyalist during the Monday Night Wars heard nothing about this all these years? Not a peep?
I'm pretty sure even guys like Shawn, Haitch, Rock, Cena knew of this and kept hush, hell I'm sure even talent like R-Truth knew about this if not the particular extent to which Vince was doing this
I have always wondered if his 15 year legacy contract was hush money via him knowing about so much secrets/rumors.
Jerry McDevitt should be held to a higher standard than the wrestlers, because he was the one that helped him get away with doing all this crap & not trying to curb his behavior. He was in on all these evil acts as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they knew of his affairs as they seemed to be an open secret…now the extent of what was being done, maybe not unless they were directly involved. My bf mentioned how his former boss was cheating on his wife. He and his other coworkers knew about it, but not the personal side of it or what was happening between them. Probably assumed all was consensual.
@@govardhanposina17 the silence of every past top guy of Vince's is deafening. So far, only HBK has spoken a word on the subject.
He's actually worse than his Mr McMahon character
Dunno, on a 2003 Smackdown episode, he wanted Undertaker's wife to be r*ped by a gang of bikers. Well, at least now we know how that line managed to make the final cut
About the same.
Mr. Mcmahon wanted to have incest with his daughter. 😢
Do you think in Court Vince will blame Mr. McMahon?
@@DarthPerkinsI can only imagining him working the juries and judge.
In all seriousness, I hope justice will prevail.
He has done more terrible things than Tommy DeSimone.
This incident makes you reconsider those gawd-awful creepy as hall story lines from the 2000's through the Daniel Bryan era in a whole new light. Vince sure as hell wasn't the only creepoid working backstage.
I'm not gonna say I'm surprised that any of this happened, but I'm certainly shocked at the details. It's like my worst nightmares were all written out in reality.
😂 your worst nightmare is prostitution? I hope ur a bot
Basically his on screen persona in the late 90s early 00s is literally his actual personality.
Man I had a feeling that back in summer of 2022 that this whole situation with Vince McMahon and the allegations against him, this wasn’t going to be the end of it.
Honestly I was not expecting a resignation, more like a forcing out. It’s definitely the end of McMahon, he’s not gonna be back, he’s a legal liability.
The most convincing thing to me weren't the disgusting big things in the lawsuit, it was the smaller throwaway details. Like Linda McMahon finding out about it, coinciding with reports about her and Vince no longer living together. Brock Lesnar getting a new contract & threatening to walk out with Vince gone. The hush money stop coming in right around when people were taking a closer looking into the finances around signed NDAs
Also wonder if Vince knew this was gonna bite him in the ass sooner or later and was probably why he was pushing that WWE-Netflix doc on himself, a last attempt at a legacy puff piece
Vince McMahon long term storyline is very realistic it almost like he actually committed crime
sooner rather then later: "Somehow Vince McMahon Returned"
History might prove me wrong here, but considering the nature of the charges and the… tenuous position WWE brand is in after the recent merger, this resignation might actually stick.
I think it will stick. The last time, Vince used his power of being the largest stockholder in WWE as leverage to get back into the company. Since he sold his shares to Endeavor when he helped forged TKO Group Holdings with the UFC, he lost that leverage. I think we've truly entered the twilight of the Vince McMahon era. Though it would not shock me if he tried to form a new wrestling promotion.
Once the sponsors started pulling out, that was the end. These corporations care about their money and that’s how you hurt them.
Oh he is done if even half of the allegations are true. Unless it can be proven she is utterly making up lies, he'll be lucky if leaving WWE is the worst thing that happens to him.
personally, I think forming the merger was a hail mary pass for Vince to maintain power, since if it hadn't happened, the board of director's could have linked the hush money with company funds to Vince and it wouldn't have mattered how many shares he held.
The major ? for me....why did he stop paying her?@@TaliaIGhul
If I remember correctly when Vince came back the last time several board members resigned and one was quoted as saying something along the lines of he couldn't remain with the company in good moral conscience. It makes me wonder now if they actually found out the true extent of what he was getting up to
Its not comforting knowing Vince McMahon is gone. If what lawsuit says is even slightly true specially regarding trafficking, we are dealing with a company filled with predators.
She said she wast trafficked to two of Vinces friends and then Brock was going to be but didnt happen. No other wrestlers were mentioned. Why is this a narrative people are trying to push online? Read the filing.
It's extremely comforting to know Vince is gone. Now WWE can actually be operated properly.
@@alesitercrimson24if you actually read the filing you would know while she wasn’t traffic to many, he was at least somewhat open about the “relationship”. He shared explicit photos of here and groped her in the head quarter with workers around. The filling makes it clear that Vince wasn’t super sererive about it. Now we don’t know the extent of how many knew. chance it was only the higher ups in the headquarters but there’s also a chance, a good chance, it goes much deeper then that.
It’s easy to tell who exactly is in Vince McMahon’s friendship circle.
@@MovieEggman while true to a point, the suite make it easy to see this as something that extents beyond just his friendship circle.
The industry depends MOSTLY on the health and reputation of WWE. Even if someone's taste is more AEW or NJPW or abcxyz, they likely arrived to that amidst exposure to WWE. So, that kind of obvious traffic makes it impossible to deny what Vince built... but the things AND PEOPLE he's destroyed has got to serve as a reminder that it's just rasslin. I'm looking forward to a hopefully great Royal Rumble while also trying not to barf. Good luck, fellow carnies!
I’m still trying to process wtf just happened in the past 60 hours. We went from WWE having all this positive attention, to then getting negative attention, to now getting positive attention again. Z Man, you said it best during your Best Of Wrestling 2022 video, “a creepy old man who paid the women he employed to stay silent.”
Yeah your first part is why I think it’s a smear campaign. Even tho I doubt he is clean. He is definitely dirty. But the timing. I get it. If you have a free sue card in your back pocket you gotta use it now. We didn’t hear anything til we heard he was selling then it comes out. You add that with his age and know he is about to die (you can’t sue his kids for this) we about to see a lot more money grabs unfortunately.
@@martyhogsed5172 Go away with that shit, Vince is a well known control freak and weirdo, there were texts, Vince stepped down immediately. If your instant reaction is 'smear campaign' for his money, you're not very bright at all.
@@martyhogsed5172You are on the wrong side of history. Don't excuse the man.. It's as likely TKO is rushing this stuff out because they knew it was coming.
What does that say about the women then?
@daisusaikoro nice npc statement. "Wrong side of history". I assume you're liberal. Why are you shut shaming Vince?
Without a note of irony, a poorly handled terrible event was the catalyst for my leaving wrestling for the first time, Owen Hart being killed. Then I left for another terrible event, Chris Benoit's horrific act. Now I think I might leave modern wrestling again.
The three times all have the same common denominator, wwf/wwe and Vince McMahon.
I can already tell Brian just janked the top from the closet but its on his sleeping long johns 😂
Having to be subjected to all that by Vince is bad enough, but to have to be sent to Johnny Ace hotel room each morning is sickening. And after two years Linda is still choosing not to divorce Vince speaks volumes
This has been going on since the beginning. Everyone knows about Moolah and her operation, but no one's ever asked who her clients were. Some things to keep in mind as things unfold:
1. There's no way Ms. Grant is the only victim of this nature. It's happened to others and hopefully this is the powderkeg that helps bring to light more of his actions. With that said:
2. There's no way Lesnar (or whomever the speculated UFC Champion in question is) was the only top guy Vince used this sort of bargaining chip with. Start looking at all the guys he bent backwards for over the decades. If this starts getting even uglier, if more voices start being heard, be prepared to start hearing a lot of top names involved in this sort of thing with Vince long before this incident.
3. There's no way McMahon was brazen enough to be showing even random tech guys the videos and pictures without a LOT of wrestlers being in the know as well. Absolutely no way.
This has the potential to get the ugliest this business has ever seen. A lot of our "heroes" are about to disappoint us immensely.
Heavy on that third one. Its a shame that some of our favorites for years are going to turn out as huge creeps who abused their power :/ It makes me wonder naturally but still justice for all the victims.
While I agree with you on the third point you also have to realize the risks of telling him to stop. You know, losing your top spot, getting less matches, potential release. The wrestlers aren't innocent but weren't in a spot to take action either.
for your 3rd point. The wrestlers knew he was fucking some young attractive woman. That does not mean they had any idea that any sexual abuse was going on.
@@echidnae2418 Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.
I need my current job, but if I found out my boss had raped someone I work with, my 'spot', the job, everything can go right out the door in service of having decent morals. Anyone who turned a blind eye to this, just to protect their spot, is human fucking garbage.
@@poke9051It's not like the WWE didn't show it's abuse of women in the spotlight. We have watched a lot of sexual abuse and it was chalked up as sports entertainment with multiple old white men squeeling about puppies.
The biggest take away: No wrestling company is truly ran 100% professionally. People want to make it out like AEW is the most unprofessional, chaotic place you can work at; nah, that’s every company
Good point about the pattern of behavior.
I haven't watched the WWE in a long time because I didn't want to give money to the people in charge.
Then dont watch but funny that you are here watching this about WWE
@@alesitercrimson24 How is that even remotely relevant? Dude said he doesn't want to give money to people in charge of WWE, not that he gave up on wrestling. Or do you stupidly think him watching this video by Brian somehow funds WWE?
@@alesitercrimson24 plenty of folks watch youtube vids about stuff they arent interesed in because they are interested in the person making the video. I just watched an hour long video about bingo the other day because the person who made the video is a good storyteller and ive never played bingo a day in my life. Kinda weird how you jumped to the "why are you here" angle.
@@alesitercrimson24
That sounds as logic as "if you dont want to give them money, why do you pirate their stuff?" Lol
Agreed. Im fully content with only watching
Classic ppv reviews
Wrestling bios reliving the war
WHAT'S VANCE MCDUDE DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE
sadly and predictably TNA is doing a fine job of destroying itself without help
Horrifying is how I’d describe the details in the lawsuit. All I hope is that this woman can heal from the years of trauma she’s endured.
Women on Regretful Sex or Drunken Sex doesn’t mean Rape or Assault Sad so many women go after guys who they had some type of relationship in past decades and they gave up they’re body willingly to get ahead of the competition basically they Slut themselves up and years later they feel ashamed so they take the man to court is a win in they’re head and they genuinely feel they’re taking back they’re innocence
Why are you assuming the details are true?
@@zerocool1884 brainwashed by feminism
She knew what she was doing. If she got the other 2 mil she was owed, we never would have heard about it and she would have continued to get her head pooped on
The money she’s already gotten and the much more she’ll get now will help her heal.
They say the best wrestling characters are your own personality with the volume turned up to 11.
Turns out Vince's wrestling persona was his own personality turned down to 11.
Thank you Vince for everything you've done for the wrestling business over the years, now don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Anyone who knew about this needs to go. Doing nothing or protecting him by covering up for him is awful. I expect many, many terminations or resignations. Clean house
Exactly, ain't no way some wrestlers didn't know.
I really don't expect much to come of this other than Vince leaving. I doubt many people knew of the actual nature of the affair. Some people might have known he was cheating on his wife, but that is very different from knowing he was sex trafficking. You would have to prove they actually knew the nature of the affair and covered it up in order to fire them or else you are going to run afoul of plenty of labor laws.
Exactly... any wrestlers that knew should be gone. Even if its guys like doink, brian Christopher, crush, razor ramon, the narcissist Lex Luger, they too need to be held accountable
Lesnar was directly brought up as a participant in the court documents. So I wouldn't expect to see him for a while in either the squared circle or octagon.
@@heyyoitsmebrian Not those guys, because they weren't that close with Vince. I'm talking about Brock, Cena, Undertaker.
It’s a shame that Vince’s selfish, reckless, disturbing behavior (and anyone who covered it up) could affect thousands of people who had nothing to do with it😢
Fools acting like he's worse than the Epstein client list or something.
Damn it, bark like a dog!!!
Boy, that thumbnail. XD Let alone the first shot of the vid. And... yeah, FUCKING CHRIST.
Thank you, Brian, for your thoughts. I think you're spot on and your take is one of the more sincere responses. You take it from a serious position without making fun of the situation (unlike some people).
Don't worry the people who don't understand psychological trauma or domestic abuse will defend vince. Appreciate you Zman.
Pretty much. Had a guy tell me that Vince was always a nice guy, when in reality had a ton of skeletons in the closet
Some of them might understand. But they see the abuse as power that they like. Which they understand is bad pr so they argue around it.
@@vDeadbolt ah yes kind hearted Vince McMahon who made fun of JRs bells palsy and bowel cancer. Great man that Vince.
It does not take even that much understanding. Anyone who can tell good from evil at the most basic concept should be able to see how awful Vince is.
To be fair, the woman who is suing Vince, made a choice. She could of easily said no and walked away, but she stayed so she can get paid better. She could of have done anything else besides working WWE. Just saying. Life is about choices and trade-offs.
Having these allegations sink in has made it hard for me to enjoy wrestling as a whole. McMahon’s fingerprints are all over the product going back decades, almost every iconic moment that I otherwise want to enjoy goes back to him. He was on commentary, he was on screen, he was friends with all the major stars, he created iconic characters and orchestrated everything that happened. I was more hyped for the Royal Rumble than I have been for almost any other show in recent years, and now it’s largely been replaced with a feeling of uneasiness.
All I know right now is that seeing your face and hearing your take on the situation, Brian, is a big source of comfort. You’ve been a constant source of measured, level headed takes over my entire wrestling fandom, and I’m glad we still have you to be the string that ties it all together. Thank you, and let’s hope we can come together as a wrestling community to move past the horrific actions of Vince and his lackeys.
Personally all this doesn't really make the current product more uncomfortable to watch since it hasn't had input from Vince since HHH got full creative control. With that being said, any Vince guy left in the company should be checked out just in case. Wouldn't surprise me if Kevin Dunn was in on it but he's gone so not much to do there but perhaps there are others.
That's right, let the witch hunt begin! Absolutely hilarious!@@maltemejlstrup4746
😂😂😂
@@maltemejlstrup4746Trips and Michaels were Vince guys?😢
You're a pathetic person.
Thank you Brian for making this video man. I was reading the news the other day and I was having the same feelings. Like how can I support a company that hid all of this for years, if not decades? How can I just pretend that everything is okay when I know that there’s people in the company who knew Vince/Johnny Ace were being scum of the earth? Idk man it’s just…frustrating because WWE has helped me make some cool memories over the years but now it all seems tarnished.
Missy Hyatt said it best:
Vince McMahon spent more money on sex than he did for WCW.
These accusations are insane and honestly would be hard to believe if they weren’t linked to an NDA. That NDA is the smoking gun for me and it ruins any defense Vince could ever think of. Those aren’t the kind of accusations you just pay off someone to not talk about if they weren’t true. Gonna be fun to watch Vince and his cohorts go down for this.
Bryan Zane: "IT CAN'T ALL BE A LIE!"
Me: Staring at previous cases and other similar cases where the accusers literally all fabricated their story and lied.
Fact of the matter is, yes, accusations from multiple people can ALL be a LIE.
Vince McMahon's however, I am more on the side of the accuser, with still a mind towards "innocent until proven guilty", but it's really hard to believe he is innocent, due to Vince McMahon's past actions and behaviours.
Ashley massaro comes to mind as well. The story is similar.
Edit : Brian zayne mentioned it.
Years ago in my innocence, I used to think the likes of Raven & Moxley were kayfabing about all the messed-up sexual or scatological things they'd seen and done in the business, both inside the WWE/WWF and out of it. Now I know they were probably downplaying it.
How soon do you think it'll be before SVU does a "ripped from the headlines" episode about Vince?
I can't wait for Fin's snappy wisecrack about Vince shitting on her head.
@@MaggieKeizai oh god I can't wait
I’m curious what other fallout results from this. That’s the thing with systemic abuse is it’s rarely isolated. With new ownership and management, TKO might clean house entirely of everyone remotely associated with Vince. I’m not going to point fingers of who’s complicit and who isn’t within WWE, but buckle up, this is just the beginning.
The sad part is... now I know why Vince enjoys toilet humor so much.
Vince:"That's some good shit pal!"
The part where he referred to Janel as his "porta-potty" made me sick! 🤢🤮
I gotta say, having watched WrestleMania 40, Vince’s outing has to be one of the best things to happen to wrestling in a long time.
Another thing with watching The Royal Rumble this weekend: the suit alleges that it wasn't just Vince and Laurenitis, but other staff and even some wrestlers... it might be easy to figure out Brock is one of the talent being mentioned but it does make one think: if somebody that should be in the rumble tonight isn't, is that because they just aren't in the rumble? or is it because they could potentially be named in this suit later and WWE/TKO is already starting to sever ties with them?
Don't just go throwing Lesnar under the bus like that
I think it reflects really badly on TKO that was allowed to resign before they fired him and took away every part of his golden parachute possible. I hope his victims take everything from him.
I hope that Vince is gone for good and I hope that this prevents him from ever going on the WWE Hall of Fame. Also let's not forget that the Benoit family murder/suicide also technically happened under Vince's watch. And the WWE schedule could be partially to blame for Eddie Guerrero's death
The Benoit thing is something nobody knew would happen because CTE wasn't fully understood back then, especially not in wrestling. Eddie's death was due to steroid abuse but Vince might have approved that steroid usage so I could see a link there.
@@user-we3me3dg1y You don't associate with something like that. The murder-suicide was not because of them. As stated, CTE was not very well understood at the time and once people found out more about it they stopped doing headshots and stuff like that.
No. Vince may be a lot of things, but you can't blame the Benoit incident on him.
He’s responsible for every Sub Contractor that had died early under his rule in WWF/E
You talk about the Benoit & Guerrero deaths, yet, what about Owen Hart? WWE was grossly negligent in making him use a cheap $68 sail boat clip to do that unnecessary stunt that he was forced to do. Benoit & Guerrero CHOSE to do drugs. They CHOSE to take so much damage to their bodies. Benoit decided to kill his family. Guerrero's past caught up to him.. Owen wasn't given a choice. And WWE got away with their negligence, & even today, fans still treat his widow as the bad guy because she won't let this scum company put him in their hall of fame, which is just an internet page done for profit.
However, it was disgusting to see WWE air Benoit's breakdown for Eddie on live TV in the so called "tribute." That emotional breakdown was not appropriate for TV, & when you watch Benoit, it is blatantly clear that this was a man that needed help. Also putting on tribute to Benoit before knowing all the facts was an incompetent & indefensible decision. The way the families of Chris & Nancy were treated by WWE is truly reprehensible.
Vince McMahon had Trish Stratus on her hands and knees barking like a dog in the middle of the ring. Plus all the other stuff he did with her like having a dirty mop wiped all over her. So this guy clearly has a twisted side to him
This was actually a really well delivered video. Well done.
For me the hardest thing for me to explain about this to someone who isn't a wrestling fan is Vince's impact on the industry. I can't think of another industry that has been as shaped and influenced by one person the way wrestling has been by Vince. I think this emphasizes how important it is for all companies and the industry as a whole to take a good hard look at itself in the mirror to make sure that nothing like what is alleged here ever happens again.
'Showering her with..........gifts' my heart stopped at this bit.
Too bad Vinny Mac's brownhole didn't stop
gifts of money and feces
I am still pissed off to this day Pat Patterson got away in this lifetime with all the sick shit he did. He probably did far worse than Vince.
About Fuckin time
Fuckn A
Fuckn A
I don't envy Trips, Steph and Shane having to explain what's going on with Vince/grandpa to their kids
I've been falling asleep to your videos the past few nights Brian, thanks. (that's a positive)
I’ve been totally picturing Stephanie getting divorce papers in the mail with a note, “It’s all about the game and how you play it” using Brian’s triple h voice.
Reminder: We’re still in January! This year has already been wild with some of the things I’ve seen outside of WWE.
(Things that I REALLY don’t wanna talk about.)
Weird how sometimes you can read these lawsuits and think "no way, this person is just out for money." In reading this one though, I could totally believe everything in it. Even aside from his heel character, he's never come across as someone who was interested in anyone except himself.
To those suggesting Mcmahon will be back... it will NEVER happen. He is done. Finished. Reputation destroyed.
Standing ovation with everything Brian had to say. I couldn’t have said it better myself
If you didn’t realize there was something profoundly wrong with Vince McMahon, reach out to me. We’ve got to weaponize your gullibility.
Its sad how money can just hide things like this in the past and still does.
Money talks
Always wonder what people like the Undertaker must think now! He’s made no secret of his love for Vince during their 34 year professional relationship. I assume Shane and Stephanie have cut ties with their father?
Sad thing is they must have known on some level. Just bevause Undertaker was a legend doesn't mean he's completely innocent.
Loyalty may have made him keep his mouth shut.
I think a lot of the top names and all his family knew about his escapades.
He knew
Stephanie probably cut ties with vince since last year when he returned, and she mysteriously left.
@@Dr.Yakub22 All the McMahons are terrible people. Stephanie is just as vile.
I say this once every few years. Not a huge wrestling fan anymore but i must dompliment you on your videos. You are believable, honest, engaging and have an excellent delivery. Thanks for the vids
Well said. Great vid. Right to the point. Vince resigning isn't the end of this. The enablers need to be held accountable. Wwe needs a complete fresh start.
Vince has always been the dark cloud hanging over the company, let us never hear his name on WWE programming ever again.
This doesn't surprise me at all.
Culture is typical of any big money company who made their fortune before 2005.
Probably also explains why Disney never bought WWE.
Disney probably the biggest sex trafficking company out their
@@user-we3me3dg1y Bob Iger is worse than McMahon.
@@user-we3me3dg1y Of course. They just managed to keep their victims and the media quiet by paying the agreed amount in the NDA.
Listen we need to look back at that ring boy scandal with Pat Paterson and how Vince covered it up
The "top WWE star" is a "former UFC Heavyweight champion". That could be anyone who is named Brock Lesnar.
I don't think he's going to a surprise Rumble winner this year.
I heard something (I'm not sure how true it is) on cultaholic saying that any future plans with Lesnar are on hold indefinitely
"If he goes, I go" -Lesnar
@@chayden153 I believe the source is "common sense" if nothing else.
Heres why ill keep watching, not everyone who works and or worked at WWE was involved with covering us this stuff. I know Brian ans Jim Cornette arent the best of friends anymore, but hearing Jim laugh his ass off whilst saying basically, "this isnt suprising". I dont think a lot of todays talent had anything to do with this, especially people like Roman, Rock and Cody. Ill keep watching for the same reason i kept watching after Chris Benoit, this company is too big at this point, for every person there to have been involved. As a closing point, i find it very weird that people want Stephanie back. She certainly has every right to come back, but i dont think she or Paul Levesque want to be associated with Vince for too much longer. I feel awful for Stephanie having to live with the digisting excuse of a man thats her father, and i feel even worse for Ms.Grant. Anyways..have a nice day everyone!
Absolutely insane, the only person who could destroy Vince was Vince all along.
*AHEM*
WWE would like to think Vince McMahon for all of his contributions to the company, and we wish him well in all his future endeavors.
thank you for being a male presence in this community that advocates for women. vince is genuinely a real life super villain
@5:14 You are indeed far from the only person who is conflicted over enjoying the WWE product now. It's like enjoying the music of R Kelly or Lost Prophets. Bout time many fans saw the company for what it is, and the realisation of what it has been built on.
The smartest fans walked away years ago. Hell, it's why alternatives even exist. But good luck to the e-marks defending this crap now.. we've been telling you for years 🤦🏻♂️
*_If_* this is true I have nothing left to say except for fingers crossed that this is the torpedo to finally sink him. He wiggled his way out of way too many horrible things
I feel that we are FINALLY free of Vince. Ever since the botched invasion angle, due to ego, he has had to go. 2 decades overdue.
Season 6 Dark side of the ring confirmed
They're going to need a whole season for Vince
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More like a Shakespearean epic at this point. Neither King Lear nor Macbeth fell this hard.
Season 6 ideas:
Vince McMahon
Heroes of Wrestling
Brawl Out
Vince McMahon surpasses Kenny Rogers for top cosmetic surgery fail.
Honest to god I hope this is the last we ever see of him
Me: Mr McMahon is the ultimate heel!
Vince McMahon: Allow me to introduce myself...
"Here we go again... Again."- Scorcher VI
How long before Vince tries to weasel his way back into company?
Yes, you heard me. Do not let your guard down. Unless he drops dead, it's 100% possible he'll come back.
I say just before the move to netflix
I dunno, nobody's come back from shitting on people during sexy times, but I'm sure Vince will try.
He can't. He no longer owns the company. Endeavor is keeping Vince away from power which is why they made Triple H head of creative.
I want to believe he’s gone for good but I can see him trying to come back.
He cant. TKO would have to vote him in and the sponsors already started to leave. Isnt happening
Why has nobody credited Joey styles with calling this out years ago when he quit live on raw?
I have been listening to so many of your videos in the background, when playing EA FC 24, thank you for your great insight and entertainment. Although, this video I would not call entertaining... although, a fantastic rant which I think we can all agree with. Such a shame too with the timing, also the fact that WWE storyline-wise and star-power-wise, is in the best shape it's been in, in years and on the eve of the biggest royal rumble in over a decade.
A lot of people right now have targeted Triple H as someone who must have known about Vince's allegations and did nothing about it, and or possibly even protected Vince. Obviously, in comparison to the bigger issues at hand, this is a minor question, but should TKO clean out more of Vince's closest associates and do actually sack Trips if he had any involvement in the cover up, what on Earth happens to WWE then?
I can't see who would take his place, because so much of WWE's corporate management has been focused on maintaining power, rather than building up people who could replace these roles should something happen. It would be a complete rebuilding process for the company, and TKO would place people they trust in those positions, but possibly don't know anything about wrestling and could create a new set of headaches at a time of great business.
It'll be interesting to see the domino effect this has and how much TKO are willing to try and clean WWE, since it's clear the culture in the company has been rotten for decades.
My illegal stream of Mars Attacks died and I need to watch this?
You're one of the most legit people in the community. Thank you.
Great movie though