When I bought my 5D3 I bought a third party grip for it. It looked the same, operated the same and received really good reviews on Amazon and specialty photo review sites. But, it didn't "feel" right. By that I mean that when I put my camera on a tripod with my 24-105 f/4 L that doesn't have a lens collar, I had concern about the attachment. That said, it didn't crack or break. I might shoot hand held one day, tripod the next...so I don't expect to have to remove the grip and reinstall the battery door when changing from hand held to tripod. The grip died after a year and a half and I purchased the Canon grip. It's still on my 5D3, has been on and off of my tripod hundreds of times and still feels solid and has always functioned as expected. When my current camera dies, I'll head for an R6 ii or it's current version plus the Canon grip. I don't need more than the 24 megapixels, but I do need a grip that I can depend on.
Thanks for the timely review. I just purchased a BG-R10 and it is everything you mentioned - premium, too expensive, heavy and bulky when used with an R5 and a beefy zoom or prime. I have been thinking about returning the BG-R10. The Mcoplus might be a good alternative for the few times I might actually want or need to use a battery grip.
I cannot live without a grip, but seeing how much was the BG-R10, I purchased my R6 without it; but in 3 months i was really missing it (my first gripped body was the 5D MK II purchased in 2010, and I've been a "grip guy" ever since), so i RELUCTANTLY bought the BG-R10 (and as you said, there weren't any alternatives), and i paid almost 380€ for it. I then casually saw, some weeks ago, a compatible grip on Aliexpress, don't remember if it was the MCO and the price, but was around 100€, but with possibile +30% customs fee; i honestly thought "worst case I'll pay around 150€, while the BG-R10 i can resell...250€? 300€? I'll get the same results and save at least 120/150€ in return, which i can invest in something else". In the end i didn't do it for two reasons; the first one is the reselling value, which in 6/8 years (average life span of my cameras) will be nearly zero for the copy while for the Canon it will retain some more value, and also the price difference (already having the Canon and needing to resell it) is not so big to really impact on my finances. Second reason is actually the most important for me; around 15/18 years ago i had an Eos 33 (film camera), and i purchased on eBay a Chinese cabled remote for the camera, because i wanted to shoot some long exposures, and this remote (which was an exact replica of the Canon one) had the possibility to lock the shutter button in Bulb mode, so i could expose for minutes without having to hold on the shutter button. Well, that Chinese piece of cr*p literally fried the pcb of the camera, and i had to buy a new camera all together; so, since then, i don't physically connect anything electronic (cabled remotes, mount adapters, battery grips, and of course batteries) which is NOT 100% original from the camera manufacturer. Only exception is fully mech stuff, and lenses from the three big third party (Sigma, Tamron and Tokina, which represent more then half of lenses i own). If i could fry a relatively simple pcb from a film camera, i cannot even start to think which are the risk today for super duper uber complicate digital cameras, even more in a mirrorless; so I'm probably pretty dumb with it, but to save 100/200€ on an accessory, and potentially fry a 2500€ camera, i just prefer to spend some little money, even for batteries (and, related to that, i don't like it either, but is well known that Canon cameras doesn't work well with third party LP-E6 batteries, you get advice on screen that battery is not original, no problem, but more important they don't show the usage percentage, which is really important; so i also spend some more to have genuine batteries). Too scared? Maybe, but since then, i never had an electronic failure on a camera, so I'll stick with my method 🙂
This is an important perspective for sure. I have had luck with the 3rd party grips in the past but if I had a camera fried I would be sticking to the brand names like you are!
While this grip is not bad, my batteries will not charge fully while using the usbc port. No problems while using the Canon grip. I have tried the grip on both the R5 and R6ii
Well I have an ORIGINAL Canon BG-R10 and it doesn't works properly. Only one battery slot can be detected by camera. Sometimes camera freeze and you need to detach the grip then attach it again. The firmware update option for this grip still not available. Canon sucks (as usual last years). Will try the NEEWER BG-R10 soon.
Hi Pete. Not sure if you will receive a notification for this message. I just received my grip today. Though in South Africa its not branded MCO Plus or any other brand, but it looks identical. I thought i would let you know that my Camera Connect app works with both Wi Fi and Bluetooth with the battery grip attached.
Always nice to see you Pete. I don’t have a Canon camera and I don’t like battery grips, so why am I making a comment? you should know by now that I have to say something (it’s probably a Spanish thing). Recently Canon banned the production and sales of some third-party lenses, can they do the same with this product? I’m just curious. Be well.
Thanks Enrique! I always appreciate your comments and support. I originally thought Canon did the same with the grips as the lenses, but there are a few off brands out there now so I have no idea why it took so long. I also just heard that they are allowing third party manual lenses, but not AF at this point.
@@PeteCocoPhoto yeah, the problem seems to be the focus motor and the AF algorithms; Canon has allowed until now many third party manufacturers of RF to EF mount adapters, like Meike, Viltrox, Commlite (those all have fully working electronics, and many of them also features models with a control ring, and they also have models with CPL/VND at a fraction of the original Canon prices), but they went hard on lenses with AF. So it seems that will ban only the AF lenses for now, leaving all the other stuff like grips, batteries and mount adapters on the market freely.
Do all the buttons work on the third party grip? I bought a third party grip for my canon RP and I think the shutter button was the only thing that talked to the RP. Everything else did not.
Read inside amazan review as the provided link, one of the comment says the battery grip disrupt his wifi connection when use. Can you confirm this for me. Thanks.
Yes it's the same for both cameras. BUT, keep in mind that you can't use the Wifi or charge batteries inside the grip with the off brand, only with the Canon brand. I found this out after making the video.
Why not list the Mcoplus MCO-R5R6 Battery Grip in the video header line to let us know this is the grip you are reviewing? Third party tells me nothing? I hope you have a more in depth review coming on this grip because a wiggle on attachment is minor. How about performance? anything?
Third party tells you it's not the Canon brand. The product is linked in the description and tagged so it will still show up in a search. In the review I tell you exactly how it performed when I used it so I'm not sure what you're missing.
Having to keep tabs on battery life during a shoot distracts from working with a client. Plus, it does take a minute when you are tethering and the camera sometimes doesn't want to re-tether right away. Having been in this situation more than once with the R5, I can tell you from experience that it breaks the flow of the session and is not at all ideal. This is basically the entire reason I use the grip. Be smart about it. ;)
I gather your not familiar with the definition of the word identical. I find it interesting that you describe them as identical and then immediately follow that sentence with there are a few small differences and continue to tell us just how NOT identical they are ;-)
Have you heard of identical twins? They look the same on the outside, but not exactly. And on the inside they are completely different. You could almost say they are NOT identical....🤔😉
@@PeteCocoPhoto well, we all know Pete is not a rocket scientist. At least he's good at photography? Identical twins share the EXACT same DNA! When they come out of the box, it's virtually impossible to tell them apart. These two items you call identical absolutely do not share the same DNA and it is absolutely possible in many ways to tell them apart. So your attempt at justifying your mistake with a pathetic analogy has failed. It's okay, we all make mistakes. Your word choice was wrong. Own it and move on. Also, thanks for the video ;-). I've been looking for one of these.
@@ashleymadison9380 The way you insult me but then wrap it up with a smile at the end keeps me from being mad at you LOL. Hey, I'm a twin myself, trust me we are like night and day! Anyway glad you enjoyed the video in either case. Oh, and technically I'm a Doctor. No fooling, I hold a doctoral degree although not in rocket science.🤓
When I bought my 5D3 I bought a third party grip for it. It looked the same, operated the same and received really good reviews on Amazon and specialty photo review sites. But, it didn't "feel" right. By that I mean that when I put my camera on a tripod with my 24-105 f/4 L that doesn't have a lens collar, I had concern about the attachment. That said, it didn't crack or break. I might shoot hand held one day, tripod the next...so I don't expect to have to remove the grip and reinstall the battery door when changing from hand held to tripod. The grip died after a year and a half and I purchased the Canon grip. It's still on my 5D3, has been on and off of my tripod hundreds of times and still feels solid and has always functioned as expected. When my current camera dies, I'll head for an R6 ii or it's current version plus the Canon grip. I don't need more than the 24 megapixels, but I do need a grip that I can depend on.
Thanks for the timely review. I just purchased a BG-R10 and it is everything you mentioned - premium, too expensive, heavy and bulky when used with an R5 and a beefy zoom or prime. I have been thinking about returning the BG-R10. The Mcoplus might be a good alternative for the few times I might actually want or need to use a battery grip.
Glad to help!
I just got a canon R10 and miss having a battery grip.
I cannot live without a grip, but seeing how much was the BG-R10, I purchased my R6 without it; but in 3 months i was really missing it (my first gripped body was the 5D MK II purchased in 2010, and I've been a "grip guy" ever since), so i RELUCTANTLY bought the BG-R10 (and as you said, there weren't any alternatives), and i paid almost 380€ for it.
I then casually saw, some weeks ago, a compatible grip on Aliexpress, don't remember if it was the MCO and the price, but was around 100€, but with possibile +30% customs fee; i honestly thought "worst case I'll pay around 150€, while the BG-R10 i can resell...250€? 300€? I'll get the same results and save at least 120/150€ in return, which i can invest in something else".
In the end i didn't do it for two reasons; the first one is the reselling value, which in 6/8 years (average life span of my cameras) will be nearly zero for the copy while for the Canon it will retain some more value, and also the price difference (already having the Canon and needing to resell it) is not so big to really impact on my finances.
Second reason is actually the most important for me; around 15/18 years ago i had an Eos 33 (film camera), and i purchased on eBay a Chinese cabled remote for the camera, because i wanted to shoot some long exposures, and this remote (which was an exact replica of the Canon one) had the possibility to lock the shutter button in Bulb mode, so i could expose for minutes without having to hold on the shutter button.
Well, that Chinese piece of cr*p literally fried the pcb of the camera, and i had to buy a new camera all together; so, since then, i don't physically connect anything electronic (cabled remotes, mount adapters, battery grips, and of course batteries) which is NOT 100% original from the camera manufacturer. Only exception is fully mech stuff, and lenses from the three big third party (Sigma, Tamron and Tokina, which represent more then half of lenses i own).
If i could fry a relatively simple pcb from a film camera, i cannot even start to think which are the risk today for super duper uber complicate digital cameras, even more in a mirrorless; so I'm probably pretty dumb with it, but to save 100/200€ on an accessory, and potentially fry a 2500€ camera, i just prefer to spend some little money, even for batteries (and, related to that, i don't like it either, but is well known that Canon cameras doesn't work well with third party LP-E6 batteries, you get advice on screen that battery is not original, no problem, but more important they don't show the usage percentage, which is really important; so i also spend some more to have genuine batteries).
Too scared? Maybe, but since then, i never had an electronic failure on a camera, so I'll stick with my method 🙂
This is an important perspective for sure. I have had luck with the 3rd party grips in the past but if I had a camera fried I would be sticking to the brand names like you are!
Opinion from an European piece of cr*p is totally invalid
Not a care about the battery. Just the vertical shutter so its not awkward on long portrait sessions
While this grip is not bad, my batteries will not charge fully while using the usbc port. No problems while using the Canon grip. I have tried the grip on both the R5 and R6ii
Thank you, this is good to know. I may need to do a quick followup on this review to include this info.
Well I have an ORIGINAL Canon BG-R10 and it doesn't works properly. Only one battery slot can be detected by camera. Sometimes camera freeze and you need to detach the grip then attach it again. The firmware update option for this grip still not available. Canon sucks (as usual last years). Will try the NEEWER BG-R10 soon.
That's frustrating. I had a Neewer for my 6d and it worked great.
You need to do a firmware update
Did yours not work with the canon connect app as well when attached to the grip?
Just tried it, and no, it would not connect! Thanks for pointing this out.
@@PeteCocoPhoto the original grip do not have this issue, right?
@@tembak88 Yes, the app works with the original grip.
Hi Pete. Not sure if you will receive a notification for this message. I just received my grip today. Though in South Africa its not branded MCO Plus or any other brand, but it looks identical. I thought i would let you know that my Camera Connect app works with both Wi Fi and Bluetooth with the battery grip attached.
That was very interesting. Thanks.
My concern is it weather sealed? The canon one is sealed. Do you know if this one is also ok in the rain?
Good question. I couldn't find anything specific saying that it is weather sealed so I'm not sure. If I find out I will let you know!
I can see the original has a weather seeling gasket. The clone does not.
So, a year later - have the buttons been broken in?
I don't use it all the time so it's held up just fine. But if it were always on my camera who knows.
Always nice to see you Pete. I don’t have a Canon camera and I don’t like battery grips, so why am I making a comment? you should know by now that I have to say something (it’s probably a Spanish thing). Recently Canon banned the production and sales of some third-party lenses, can they do the same with this product? I’m just curious. Be well.
Thanks Enrique! I always appreciate your comments and support. I originally thought Canon did the same with the grips as the lenses, but there are a few off brands out there now so I have no idea why it took so long. I also just heard that they are allowing third party manual lenses, but not AF at this point.
@@PeteCocoPhoto yeah, the problem seems to be the focus motor and the AF algorithms; Canon has allowed until now many third party manufacturers of RF to EF mount adapters, like Meike, Viltrox, Commlite (those all have fully working electronics, and many of them also features models with a control ring, and they also have models with CPL/VND at a fraction of the original Canon prices), but they went hard on lenses with AF. So it seems that will ban only the AF lenses for now, leaving all the other stuff like grips, batteries and mount adapters on the market freely.
Do all the buttons work on the third party grip? I bought a third party grip for my canon RP and I think the shutter button was the only thing that talked to the RP. Everything else did not.
Other buttons do work, but some of the features do not (charging batteries in the grip and wireless function).
@@PeteCocoPhoto do the features you just mentioned work with the Canon-brand battery grip?
@@paulengle5784 I've never tried them myself but this is the feedback I've gotten from viewers.
Just curious: does the battery trays of those grips fits to each other?
Which other grips? Like a third party grip? I never tried it so I am not sure but usually the specs are pretty exact.
Original by Canon and Newer
does it improve the shutter speed when the BG is attached
nope, just an extra battery and buttons/dials
Hi, do either of these grips work on the canon r50?
Thanks
Nope
Read inside amazan review as the provided link, one of the comment says the battery grip disrupt his wifi connection when use. Can you confirm this for me. Thanks.
I was unable to use the Canon app via WIFI when using this grip.
@@PeteCocoPhoto got another question. if you were to turn off the functionality of third party battery grip. Can the wifi works?
Can these fit on a cannon eos r10
Nope. It's just for the R5/6
Is the extra batter grip same for canon R6 & R6 Mark ii?
Yes it's the same for both cameras. BUT, keep in mind that you can't use the Wifi or charge batteries inside the grip with the off brand, only with the Canon brand. I found this out after making the video.
What about weather sealing?
Nope
How about a R7 grip???
It took a long time to get a third party grip for the R5 so I doubt there are any available yet for the newer cameras. Not that I've seen.
Why not list the Mcoplus MCO-R5R6 Battery Grip in the video header line to let us know this is the grip you are reviewing? Third party tells me nothing? I hope you have a more in depth review coming on this grip because a wiggle on attachment is minor. How about performance? anything?
Third party tells you it's not the Canon brand. The product is linked in the description and tagged so it will still show up in a search. In the review I tell you exactly how it performed when I used it so I'm not sure what you're missing.
changing a battery doesn't take " a minute".It takes 5 seconds. Use this time to give your clients a break.Be smart about it.
Having to keep tabs on battery life during a shoot distracts from working with a client. Plus, it does take a minute when you are tethering and the camera sometimes doesn't want to re-tether right away. Having been in this situation more than once with the R5, I can tell you from experience that it breaks the flow of the session and is not at all ideal. This is basically the entire reason I use the grip. Be smart about it. ;)
I gather your not familiar with the definition of the word identical. I find it interesting that you describe them as identical and then immediately follow that sentence with there are a few small differences and continue to tell us just how NOT identical they are ;-)
Have you heard of identical twins? They look the same on the outside, but not exactly. And on the inside they are completely different. You could almost say they are NOT identical....🤔😉
@@PeteCocoPhoto well, we all know Pete is not a rocket scientist. At least he's good at photography?
Identical twins share the EXACT same DNA! When they come out of the box, it's virtually impossible to tell them apart.
These two items you call identical absolutely do not share the same DNA and it is absolutely possible in many ways to tell them apart. So your attempt at justifying your mistake with a pathetic analogy has failed.
It's okay, we all make mistakes. Your word choice was wrong. Own it and move on.
Also, thanks for the video ;-). I've been looking for one of these.
@@ashleymadison9380 The way you insult me but then wrap it up with a smile at the end keeps me from being mad at you LOL. Hey, I'm a twin myself, trust me we are like night and day! Anyway glad you enjoyed the video in either case. Oh, and technically I'm a Doctor. No fooling, I hold a doctoral degree although not in rocket science.🤓