Japan's Sherman Hunter, the Chi-Ri | Cursed by Design

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  • Опубликовано: 27 май 2021
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    When most people think of Japanese tanks from the second world war it's quite similar to their reaction to Italian tanks of that period. Small, underpowered tanks with weak armaments incapable of competing against the vehicles fielded by other nations. In most cases this would be true, but towards the end of the war the Japanese began multiple projects in an attempt to combat the allied armor. In future videos we will discuss all of these projects but for today's episode we’ll be taking a look at the story of the Type 5 Chi-Ri.
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Комментарии • 986

  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +291

    Thanks to "The Modern Frontiersman" for sponsoring this video. Go check out their channel: ruclips.net/video/svHVFlbpQfI/видео.html

    • @noahezer9295
      @noahezer9295 3 года назад +6

      Plsss next video be the MBT 70 okay😊🙏🙏

    • @romanthenumeral9497
      @romanthenumeral9497 3 года назад +2

      hell yeah id love to learn more about the mbt70

    • @novanchiem4643
      @novanchiem4643 3 года назад +3

      U tell the Chi-Ri is the sherman hunter but still don't have enough armor to defend itself from the sherman :v

    • @Bias5
      @Bias5 3 года назад +2

      Do chi nu please!

    • @ognjenstepanovic3121
      @ognjenstepanovic3121 3 года назад +1

      Can you do the Novi Sad sherman.

  • @galladesamurai2380
    @galladesamurai2380 3 года назад +1254

    Fun fact: The Chi-Ri is about the same size as the Tiger ll
    Let that sink in for a moment

    • @daruween1398
      @daruween1398 3 года назад +175

      oh god oh fuck

    • @norad_clips
      @norad_clips 3 года назад +284

      Indeed, sink into the mud

    • @sinthoras1306
      @sinthoras1306 3 года назад +263

      *HOLY MASSIVE MOLY* if Seen the Tiger II in reality, how, how could they have produced a Tank this big, whit armor and armament this weak.

    • @RG-fc7ht
      @RG-fc7ht 3 года назад +208

      @@sinthoras1306 Because the IJN ate up all the budget and resources which with the whole debacle of the battle of midway and beyond. Not a lot of resources for tanks or really anything.

    • @troutwarrior6735
      @troutwarrior6735 3 года назад +73

      But it only has 75mm of non sloped armor! WTF!

  • @fabovondestory
    @fabovondestory 3 года назад +2553

    Italy: I got the worst tanks!
    Japan: No, I got the worst tank!
    China: You guys got tanks?

    • @leutnantin408
      @leutnantin408 3 года назад +135

      At least they got German panzer I lol

    • @ilovepanzer3930
      @ilovepanzer3930 3 года назад +91

      Whelp pz.I with two dp-28s if those are even tanks

    • @amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544
      @amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 3 года назад +104

      @@ilovepanzer3930 I don’t believe they are tanks. If it’s only mgs then it would be considered a Tankette

    • @ilovepanzer3930
      @ilovepanzer3930 3 года назад +41

      @@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 well the communists do have some captured Japanese tanks but we the R.O.C only have those pz.1s which aren’t even pz.Is and maybe some outdated m60s nowadays...
      Yeah talk about fighting back to the mainland.My life is a joke

    • @mrducky179
      @mrducky179 3 года назад +43

      @@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 im sure tankettes are classified by weight and not their armament

  • @Jowjoejoe
    @Jowjoejoe 3 года назад +1056

    "People think that Japanese tanks are incapable, which in most case is true"
    Cries in Chinese bought panzer 1 and 2

    • @Jowjoejoe
      @Jowjoejoe 3 года назад +143

      @Kingston Wang I'm pretty sure they traded raw material with Germany before WW2. There is hundreds of pictures of Chinese troops in german gear down to the gas masks.

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms 3 года назад +97

      @@Jowjoejoe Germany had a lot of military advisors deployed to China, and gave them a lot of equipment because they were fighting the communists

    • @Jowjoejoe
      @Jowjoejoe 3 года назад +39

      "In August 1934, the Treaty for the Exchange of Chinese Raw Materials and Agricultural Products of German Industrial and Other Products was signed in which China would trade strategically important raw material for German industrial products and development. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-German_cooperation_(1926%E2%80%931941)#German_aid_to_industrialization_of_China

    • @Jowjoejoe
      @Jowjoejoe 3 года назад +26

      @Kingston Wang May I remind you that before the industrial revolution China was the biggest economy in the world? They have a bunch of resources which is what led to all those invasions.

    • @Jowjoejoe
      @Jowjoejoe 3 года назад +22

      @Kingston Wang Industrial capability and resources are not the same thing...

  • @whirving
    @whirving 3 года назад +566

    A crappy tank is a monster when there are no tanks or guns to oppose it. The Imperial Japanese army were brilliant about getting their "crappy" tanks into the fight. They were pretty effective in Burma and the Philippines early on.

    • @forbeshutton5487
      @forbeshutton5487 2 года назад +93

      The ability to use tanks was very limited in the Pacific. Roads and railroad tracks were often the only way to move them between mountains, jungles, swamps, etc, and that would make them easy prey for air or artillery attack. The smaller bridges along the roads and railways also meant that even the "best" routes for the tacks were unusable without major engineering.
      Add in the logistics of island fighting, getting tanks ashore, even at major ports was a problem, but it would take huge amounts of resources to keep a tank moving on the offence ( a tank could consume about half what a small landing craft would carry just in fuel in a day, then you have to get it from the shore to the tank...). On defense, which Japan was by the time these tanks were being considered, bunkers take a fraction of the manpower and resources to construct and require nothing more over time.

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend 2 года назад +32

      @@forbeshutton5487 the japanese investing in tanks was pretty pointless in the pacific campaign, particularly fighting a defensive war severely short on raw materials. they were probably better off investing in light anti-tank guns and rockets, and lots of them. but generals inevitably have their glory projects, come hell or high water. and hell came.

    • @Arigator2
      @Arigator2 2 года назад +18

      That should be the plan. Tanks are cavalry. If they're stuck in a fixed battle you aren't using them correctly. Using them as expensive artillery is sub optimal. Or like the Soviets. Drive them directly into artillery fire and expect them to win somehow.

    • @randyhavard6084
      @randyhavard6084 Год назад +1

      Don't forget, their crappy tanks really did a number on those Chinese peasants too

    • @madensmith7014
      @madensmith7014 Год назад +8

      This is all true except that the "crappy" tanks were designed for China and were more effective there than the Pacific

  • @Jo2h_
    @Jo2h_ 3 года назад +592

    Guys this tank is actually goated

    • @thecomradetrotsky
      @thecomradetrotsky 3 года назад +4

      It can't be :0

    • @strafe8866
      @strafe8866 3 года назад +21

      In war thunder

    • @Holyw1n
      @Holyw1n 3 года назад +20

      Agreed Not sure in real life
      But in WOT it’s Cool

    • @EukalyptusBonBon
      @EukalyptusBonBon 3 года назад +4

      Not anymore in WT :(

    • @Tameshi-hd1qk
      @Tameshi-hd1qk 3 года назад +1

      Japanese tank type-95 Ha-Go - type-5 Chi-Ri Have Low Armor

  • @agentepolaris4914
    @agentepolaris4914 3 года назад +553

    The Japanese weren't ignorant about tank building, they just did what they could with their limited resources.

    • @m10tankdestroyer94
      @m10tankdestroyer94 3 года назад +235

      I'm sorry but you misspelled "They directed all their funds to the navy instead"

    • @agentepolaris4914
      @agentepolaris4914 3 года назад +162

      @@m10tankdestroyer94 well, yeah. But being an archipelago I think that was a rather obvious choice.
      Besides they rarely faced Americans on land battles and their tanks were fairly good for the other other enemy they were fighting: the Chinese.

    • @myDickbiG
      @myDickbiG 3 года назад +40

      japanese tanks are designed for cavalry tactics

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 3 года назад +58

      actually they purposely shut down their tank dev around the 1930s cause someone fucked up in Manchuria by using them wrong
      then had to restart late

    • @agentepolaris4914
      @agentepolaris4914 3 года назад +23

      @@essexclass8168 I'd like to know more about that fuck up in Manchuria. I alwasy thought they did it jus because corrupt Navy officers were the majority in the governing junta.

  • @johnhughes2653
    @johnhughes2653 2 года назад +61

    I've always thought that one of the reasons that Japanese tanks tended to be so small and lightly armoured was the fact that their planned expansion involved a lot of island hopping. Therefore, the tanks needed to be easily transported by ship & landing craft. Additionally, there is the fact that a lot of jungle warfare would be expected, so smaller tanks would have an advantage in negotiating roads that were little more that dirt paths through dense jungle.

    • @galil_6863
      @galil_6863 6 месяцев назад +1

      But the Chi-Ri was the size of a Tiger II...

  • @Ribbon_13
    @Ribbon_13 3 года назад +185

    I forget what exact tank it is but I met a guy who owned a tank collection and he had a Japanese tank. While he was restoring it they kept punching wholes through the armor trying to fix the bullet holes. He ended up taking a piece to a metallurgy expert and found out that parts of the tank were made of nickle

    • @Mr-Trox
      @Mr-Trox 3 года назад +52

      It was probably the Ha-Go or Chi-Ha, those were the most common Japanese tanks.
      I think I remember seeing a picture of a knocked out Chi-Ha being strapped to the engine of an M4 Sherman. It looked so ridiculous.

    • @Ribbon_13
      @Ribbon_13 3 года назад +16

      @@Mr-Trox looked it up, it was a Ha-Go

    • @erzhaider
      @erzhaider 2 года назад

      What parts were made of nickel? Structural parts not affected by direct gunfire or parts of the actual armor?

    • @Ribbon_13
      @Ribbon_13 2 года назад +13

      @@erzhaider armor was nickel

    • @erzhaider
      @erzhaider 2 года назад +2

      @@Ribbon_13 very interesting, thank you

  • @Arthion
    @Arthion 3 года назад +53

    Well, one of things I like about Japanese tank design is that once high command realised they needed something new and sent some actual funding down to R&D after having knee-capped it almost a decade earlier the advancements came at a very high rate. Even the Type 4 Chi-To is actually pretty decent if only 'too little, too late'.
    Edit: Also unfortunate that the US scrapped it. It'd made a pretty cool museum piece.

  • @tristenthomas7352
    @tristenthomas7352 3 года назад +135

    The auto loader on the Chi-Ri 2 has saved me more times than I can count on WT

  • @yi_hou3092
    @yi_hou3092 3 года назад +366

    What would the Chi-Ri and Chi-To's Type 5 Gun be the Equivalent too exactly my bet is on the German 75 L/70

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +162

      From what I saw while researching it was considered relatively equivalent to the Panthers 75

    • @thesnazzycomet
      @thesnazzycomet 3 года назад +51

      @@ConeOfArc somewhere between the Sherman 76 and Panther 75

    • @qingyunwang3802
      @qingyunwang3802 3 года назад +44

      It's comparable to the M1 76mm on Shermans. The gun is based on a 1920s Swedish design and is certainly inferior in terms of penetration to 88mm kwk 36 let alone 75mm kwk 42.

    • @user-bo1ej5im9t
      @user-bo1ej5im9t 3 года назад +3

      Cheeto

    • @EstellammaSS
      @EstellammaSS 3 года назад +9

      @@ConeOfArc nope, at least not in terms of anti-tank performance.
      75mm/1000m is worse than the US 76mm M1
      It would have problems even against the Sherman at longer distance

  • @mikep3180
    @mikep3180 3 года назад +231

    I also like how during the war the Germans got the memo and started adding sloped armor but the Japanese were like no fuck that

    • @gunserhallo5506
      @gunserhallo5506 3 года назад +79

      No, Japanese were aware of that but they didn’t have such a capable industrial power to do that in fact late Japanese tank had some proposal to use sloped armoir but quickly refused because it is impossible for Japanese to mass product sloped armour tanks. Limited resource and weak industrial power came to their mind.

    • @jackp7727
      @jackp7727 3 года назад +7

      Yeah it’s irritating, ik it’s a game and all but in warthunder whenever I play the chi Nu, chi to or chi Ri it annoys me because the 2 plates on the front could have easily been made into one sloped plate which would have made them much more survivable

    • @liviuganea4108
      @liviuganea4108 3 года назад +62

      They didn't "get the memo". Germany WAS aware of sloped armor. They just didn't think the massive decrease in space, difficulty in manufacture was worth the slight increase in effectiveness. When that effectiveness was needed (Panther and Tiger 2) the negatives were deemed acceptable.

    • @shadowraven3253
      @shadowraven3253 3 года назад +3

      @@liviuganea4108 I think cause they also build bigger negating the first problem.

    • @Cbrmkn98xs
      @Cbrmkn98xs 3 года назад +1

      Japan: i noticed but fuck it, imma waste all my resources on *Ships*

  • @SnepBlepVR
    @SnepBlepVR 3 года назад +101

    I just love how of the tanks in battlefield V the Japanese tanks are the most op period.. I watched a type 97 take on by itself a Sherman and two LVTs and the damn thing won against the Sherman an LVT and most of the second one.. the only thing that saved the third one was some punk with a lunge mine

    • @Seraphil1
      @Seraphil1 3 года назад +20

      Sounds like they had the 75mm gun upgrade that changes the Type 97 Chi-Ha to a Type 3 Chi-Nu. Kinda wish the designation changed with it

    • @josten8044
      @josten8044 2 года назад

      @@Seraphil1 I found sticking with the 57mm and just going after the AP rounds is the best option for the Chi-Ha. The smaller turret makes you a smaller target, and with the right camo the enemy team might not see you. Personally the gun upgrades are overrated because the turrets are big targets for the enemy tanks. I had a game on Iwo Jima and got 14 tank kills. When I went to rearm, a Sherman pulled up next to me but didn't even notice I was next to him, I still managed to take him down.

  • @bendrenth441
    @bendrenth441 3 года назад +153

    I actually like the overall silhouette. It looks pretty modern compared to some of the other early cold war. The spacious turret and the autoloader mechanism is something I like too. Plenty of room for ammo, crew and the idea of the autoloader just being there to help speed up the firing rate of the main cannon in short bursts is something I really appreciate compared to other systems where they feed straight from the ammo storage to the cannon. If the autoloader breaks for some reason, the loader crewmate can still keep the gun firing.

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 года назад +11

      I dont think the chi ri was intended to have an autoloader

    • @krixpop
      @krixpop 3 года назад +19

      @@DeliveryTank
      indeed, there was absolutely NO auto-loader
      And overall, this tank and its variants, was another display of how little ww2 Japan understood tank warfare.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 3 года назад +6

      Of course the large flat and almost vertical surfaces also made the tank rather vulnerable.
      Not enough slope to really matter, and Japanese steel didn't have the quality to make good armour so they'd ideally need all the slope they could get.

    • @thegamingzilla6269
      @thegamingzilla6269 3 года назад +2

      @@krixpop a revised version of the Chi-Ri platform, known as the Chi-Ri II, would have an autoloader, but it was very basic, being a 3 shot hand fed magazine that had to be hand loaded

    • @brute6896
      @brute6896 3 года назад +7

      @@krixpop well I mean they had a bit of small pieces of steel with cardboard and a few staples because they kept giving the steel to the navy

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody 3 года назад +90

    the Chi-to is one of the best looking imperial japanese tanks. Then you have this chunky boi

    • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
      @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 года назад +20

      The planned production for the Chi-To is even more sexy with smaller turret placed in the center and slightly sloped armor around its hull.

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 года назад +2

      I like the sloped front Ho Ri and chi to more but ok

    • @Doman9191
      @Doman9191 2 года назад +2

      Chi-Nu is best looking to me

    • @Penha-yz8vj
      @Penha-yz8vj 2 года назад +1

      wait until you see the O-I

  • @FairyNya
    @FairyNya 3 года назад +47

    i just thought about it, next episode of cursed by design should be “cursed by design: war thunder”

  • @scockery
    @scockery 3 года назад +126

    "Sherman Hunter" is an odd name for a Japanese guy.

  • @aymanayad7230
    @aymanayad7230 3 года назад +281

    "Sherman hunter" is only moderately better than the late Shermans

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 года назад +54

      not even sure they are "better" in an overall sense just the gun is better than the Sherman 75mm can't say it's better than the 76mm

    • @aymanayad7230
      @aymanayad7230 3 года назад +27

      @@mikepette4422 the gun does have slightly better penetration than the 76 in most circumstances,thats about it

    • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
      @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 года назад +12

      But does it change the fact that it would still have no trouble lolpen the Sherman after all that is the entire reason why this tank existed to begin with.

    • @aymanayad7230
      @aymanayad7230 3 года назад +52

      @@i_nameless_i-jgsdf the sherman won't have trouble penning its flat armor lookin ass either,and Sherman have stabilizers and easy eights would just laugh at them

    • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
      @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 года назад +10

      @@aymanayad7230
      Again how does it change the fact that this tank was meant to take on the Sherman hence the title ''Sherman hunter'' i never said the Sherman can't pen it or even compard both tanks, the fck are you even trying ? lol

  • @gandsproductions5105
    @gandsproductions5105 3 года назад +30

    I've heard that the ho-ri with sloped armour wasn't even real and that the picture surfaced in the 70s.

  • @Teh0X
    @Teh0X 3 года назад +18

    Chi-He - > Chi-Nu - > Chi-Nu II upgrade was impressive. Such small 20 ton tank with a capable gun would have the ideal for Japanese home islands back then.

  • @jeannedarcalterberserker8620
    @jeannedarcalterberserker8620 3 года назад +172

    Japanese tanks are so interesting 👍 their stories are so interesting. How bout the O-I next?

    • @agentepolaris4914
      @agentepolaris4914 3 года назад +4

      I think he already has a vudeo about the O-I

    • @leopard2a466
      @leopard2a466 3 года назад +6

      @@agentepolaris4914 link?

    • @averageebran
      @averageebran 3 года назад +2

      @@user-bc8ff8oi8k They were cruel,but not everyone.

    • @adenmitchell7633
      @adenmitchell7633 2 года назад

      No

    • @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32
      @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 2 года назад +3

      The O-I will be rather hard to work on considering every information you can know about the tank will be contradicted by other sources time and time again. Nobody is even sure how the one prototype of the tank was destroyed

  • @jaredrevis4594
    @jaredrevis4594 3 года назад +9

    Great appreciation for going over this vehicle. The Japanese, particularly their tanks, are often reduced to simple-minded memes and as we can see from Italy this can't entirely be reduced to a language barrier with sources. I got my hands on a few Japanese magazines about it, and on the Chi-To, though those magazines are the hardest texts I've tried reading.
    I especially appreciate your dispelling the 88mm gun myth. It's a shame that even such big names as Zaloga have been repeating it. I can't help but wonder if it wasn't in part because of some naive attempt to make it out as Japan's Tiger. The obsession with that vehicle is a problem in itself...

  • @aaronlillis7932
    @aaronlillis7932 3 года назад +18

    I would love if you did a cursed by design on ships of the era

  • @largegummyhitman5786
    @largegummyhitman5786 3 года назад +38

    *Meanwhile in an alternate timeline where war drags on for longer*
    Japanese tank commander: Finally we can fight Shermans
    *Patton tank spots chi-ri*
    Patton tank commander: Imma end this man's whole career

    • @unusualincidentsunit7428
      @unusualincidentsunit7428 2 года назад

      You mean m26 Pershing and m47 Patton?

    • @largegummyhitman5786
      @largegummyhitman5786 Год назад

      @@unusualincidentsunit7428 ye as most of the Korean War era tanks were still only in testing during the near end of the war so this project of the war had dragged on for longer would have still been fucked one way or another

    • @ReviveHF
      @ReviveHF Год назад

      Patton tanks included M103 Heavy Tank as well, it can fire the most powerful APBC round in the world.

    • @jackcausey1449
      @jackcausey1449 4 месяца назад

      M46 not m47

  • @donpegar2645
    @donpegar2645 3 года назад +8

    The problem with the chi-to was that when there got hit it turned into a chi-puff.

  • @getdunced631
    @getdunced631 3 года назад +2

    One thing to note is that Chi-Nu didn't arise directly from Chi-He. Failure to deliver a design quickly enough for Chi-To and Chi-Ri meant a stopgap tank featuring a 75mm AT gun was to built as quickly as possible. Resulting in Chi-Nu. This is why blueprints or rather renditions of the first Chi-To/Ri ideas feature what would become the Chi-Nu turret. Additionally the naming conventions used by Japan notably has Chi-Nu meanjng 10th Medium, Chi-Ri as 9th Medium, and Chi-To as the 7th. Chi-Chi or 8th Medium was not adopted due to being confusing.

  • @sandville2396
    @sandville2396 2 года назад

    This is such a high quality video in every way. From the POV rides from War Thunder, to the detailled content research, to the background music. This channel will blow up, good job mate.

  • @whirlwindgaming6973
    @whirlwindgaming6973 3 года назад +8

    It's a little funny how the Germans needed tank hunters to take out rare Soviet monsters like the IS series, and the Japanese made them to counter literally one of the most produced tanks in history.

  • @jose-if7yw
    @jose-if7yw 3 года назад +3

    Love the sponsor Channel thanks for introducing me to them.

  • @lymarromero895
    @lymarromero895 3 года назад +10

    I remember this tank in Sudden Strike: Iwo Jima, this was an absolute beast...
    *NOW TALK ABOUT HISTORIC INACCURACY!*

  • @straswa
    @straswa 2 года назад

    Great vid ConeofArc, fascinating stuff about the Chi-Ri.

  • @patricklynch9574
    @patricklynch9574 3 года назад +25

    Dammit now I want Cheetos.🤣

  • @williamgandarillas2185
    @williamgandarillas2185 3 года назад +36

    2:39
    Didn’t know that Cheetos created Japanese Guns during WW2 ;-)

    • @Cbrmkn98xs
      @Cbrmkn98xs 3 года назад +4

      @phantasm the tall man i think you misspelled “a cringey joke”

  • @harlech2
    @harlech2 2 года назад

    As usual, great video. Love your vids!

  • @BurningBlazeBaguette
    @BurningBlazeBaguette 2 года назад +1

    Wow the opening of this video, reminded me heavily of bedtime stories

  • @carized8852
    @carized8852 3 года назад +17

    I never knew that the Ho-Ri with the center mounted casemate was called the Ho-Ri II. Wargaming had lied to me. Then again I'm not surprised. And assumed the Ho-Ri production/prototype used a different hull and not a Chi-Ri cause the sloped front. And Wargaming called that tank the Ho-Ri TII. Eh not a big deal, just a tank game.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage 3 года назад +7

      To be fair sources on the Ho-Ri are weird and inconsistent. Also Wargaming does love it's paper tanks.

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 года назад +1

      You moron, the Ho Ri with the center casemate is called the Ho Ri ll. The one with the casemate at the back is the Ho Ri l

    • @AJ-170SkyStriker
      @AJ-170SkyStriker 3 года назад +1

      I wouldn't expect more from a company who calls the Object 726 an Object 279 (e)

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 года назад

      Nvm, just looked that the names in wotb and you were right

  • @matthewmerriott4483
    @matthewmerriott4483 3 года назад +21

    Love this channel always plenty of videos and content I love.
    On a side note if Cone Sees this comment can you do an object 279 video?
    Edit: Anyone else just like listening to Cone talk? It's a soothing voice.

    • @robinkhn2547
      @robinkhn2547 3 года назад

      World of Tanks player spotted, am I right?

    • @matthewmerriott4483
      @matthewmerriott4483 3 года назад

      @@robinkhn2547 I do indeed play but have gotten into war thunder and am starting to prefer it.

    • @DeliveryTank
      @DeliveryTank 3 года назад

      What obj 279. The russian heavy with the turret on the back of the hull?

    • @matthewmerriott4483
      @matthewmerriott4483 3 года назад

      @@DeliveryTank no the heavy designed to withstand a nuke with quad tracks

  • @historymapping6628
    @historymapping6628 3 года назад

    Man. just when i was searching for something good about Chi-Ri's. Great Video!

  • @yashovardhanakiran4005
    @yashovardhanakiran4005 3 года назад

    nice video.really liked the fact that you research your points.

  • @argxz4200
    @argxz4200 3 года назад +6

    I feel like the Chi Ri has had so much attention in the last month

  • @cducks0178
    @cducks0178 3 года назад +4

    Love these videos

  • @bluemouse5039
    @bluemouse5039 2 года назад +2

    What the Japanese needed more than a heavy tank was an effective light weight and mobile anti-tank weapon for their infantry like a recoilless rifle in 75 mm or larger or a panzer Faust type weapon, even if their new heavy tank was on equal with allied types, at that point of the war Japan could not make enough of those tanks
    to make any difference, also they lacked the steel and production capabilities to be making tanks and needed all their efforts toward just meeting their basic needs like ammunition and more practical weapons like mortars, machine guns,

  • @alexdivision4320
    @alexdivision4320 3 года назад +2

    I love that Men of War has both the Ho Ri 1 and 2

  • @HSstriker
    @HSstriker 3 года назад +28

    I bet their final tank would be called the ho-ri-shit

    • @krixpop
      @krixpop 2 года назад +2

      😂😅🤣😅😁😂
      I almost died of laughter !!!
      most underrated comment !

    • @oceanhome2023
      @oceanhome2023 2 года назад

      Oh NO !!!
      You are a Laysiist ! a terwwible Wasist !!!!

    • @dinonuggiesguy4847
      @dinonuggiesguy4847 2 года назад

      Ho-ri-fic!

  • @PhongChu-vm2ql
    @PhongChu-vm2ql 3 года назад +6

    Maybe do a video about japanese amphibious tanks next ? You can consider doing about O-I (or Mi-To), it would definitely attract a lot of interests

  • @gearchallenge7555
    @gearchallenge7555 2 года назад

    VERY objective reporting and major KUDOS!!!

  • @YourLocalHistoryNerd
    @YourLocalHistoryNerd 3 года назад +1

    my favorite series on the channel

  • @sevrela
    @sevrela 3 года назад +3

    Documentary about arl44 when

  • @ambientghost2291
    @ambientghost2291 3 года назад +8

    Next japanese tank, Chi-ri-Os.

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 2 года назад +2

    Speaking of World of Tanks, I enjoyed the Chi-Ri with the autoloader main gun option. Big target with not so hot armor, but that rapid-fire popgun served me well!
    I have the Osprey book on Japanese tanks that mentions this and so many of their other vehicles and projects. Very interesting stuff.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 2 года назад +1

    The 75mm AA Gun was referred to as an "80mm" in some period documents. That can lead to discrepancies with reported bore size.

  • @bejaminmaston1347
    @bejaminmaston1347 2 года назад +3

    Germany: Tiger
    Murica: sherman
    Russia: t-34
    Japan:cheeto

  • @conservativemike3768
    @conservativemike3768 3 года назад +9

    So... the Mexican tank was the Bu-Ri-To? Thank you, I’m here all week... try the veal.

    • @jdraven0890
      @jdraven0890 3 года назад +1

      And don't forget to tip your waitress!

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 3 года назад +3

      Don't confuse the soft shell Bu-Ri-To motorized artillery gun platform with the harder shelled Ta-Co main battle tank.

    • @conservativemike3768
      @conservativemike3768 3 года назад +1

      @@1pcfred / Who doesn’t like a good Ta-Co?

  • @dun0790
    @dun0790 2 года назад

    Excellent video thank you

  • @monticore1626
    @monticore1626 3 года назад +2

    I think most content creators just don't research Japanese tanks due to the language barrier thankyou for pushing past that and making this video

  • @Zero-zb5ij
    @Zero-zb5ij 3 года назад +3

    Fun Fact: The Japanese felt as though they didn't need to have large tanks and focused solely on infantry fighting tanks because they territories they occupied often were dense jungles and small islands with little to no suitable terrain for large vehicles, but they made up for this by having large emplacement guns that they can conceal in major pathways into occupied islands. At the time, they didn't believe that tanks were a significant threat to their territory other than mainland territory which most of their tanks were deployed

  • @beachside1
    @beachside1 3 года назад +3

    I was just there with my German lineup in war thunder. The Ho Ri on war thunder shows it having a 105mm cannon

  • @BigboiiTone
    @BigboiiTone 2 года назад

    Extremely interested in tanks lately. Also interested in lesser known tanks and aeapons. Subscribed brother....

  • @yattaran1484
    @yattaran1484 2 года назад

    Thank you for the photo of very last image of type 5 tank with some german panzers in the field. I've never seen that photo before !.😮

  • @the7observer
    @the7observer 3 года назад +22

    6:27 - probably because the americans classified their tanks in light, medium, heavy by weight and not by role. So a Panther would be considered a heavy tank by american standarts while Germany used the classification by role

    • @shadowraven3253
      @shadowraven3253 3 года назад +1

      Isn't the pershing in the second world war a heavy for the US until later on?

    • @the7observer
      @the7observer 3 года назад

      @@shadowraven3253 I have no idea if the US military changed it's nomenclature for tanks after WW2

    • @badgermcbadger1968
      @badgermcbadger1968 3 года назад

      @@shadowraven3253 i think i heard somewhere that they changed the classification of the pershing to heavy to increase troop morale but im not sure

    • @InfernusdomniAZ
      @InfernusdomniAZ 3 года назад +1

      @@shadowraven3253 the Pershing was classified as a heavy tank during world war two but after America and Britain saw the IS-3 at the victory parades and collectively shat themselves they both immediately started making heavier tanks to compete and the Pershing was reclassified as a medium.

  • @AverageOhioan1903
    @AverageOhioan1903 3 года назад +5

    cheeto and the chi RRREEEEEEEE are my favourite japnese tanks and you cant tell me otherwise

  • @williamotani8892
    @williamotani8892 3 года назад

    This is the first time I have seen a youtube channel be a sponsor

  • @shadowwarriorshockwave3281
    @shadowwarriorshockwave3281 3 года назад

    Tanks for making this video it’s tanktastic

  • @mahouaniki4043
    @mahouaniki4043 3 года назад +5

    Unfortunately (or fortunately for others), most of their steel were used to build Navy battleships. Tanks were kinda treated as "disliked step-son".

    • @MarketChange
      @MarketChange 3 года назад +4

      Imagine how many Ha Go's they would have produced with the steel of Musashi and Yamato...

    • @yobob591
      @yobob591 3 года назад +2

      I mean, to be entirely fair most of their fighting was on islands where tanks struggle and against China who basically didn’t have tanks, so they really made the right choice not wasting time making Tiger IIs or other big beefy things like Germany

    • @Blei1986
      @Blei1986 2 года назад +1

      @@yobob591 true. instead of tanks they should have copied the bazooka or panzerfaust for their island warfare.
      not the stupid lungemine... lmao

  • @CMDRFandragon
    @CMDRFandragon 3 года назад +3

    Chi-To? Cheetoh!? Chi-To is the first Japanese tank I could take seriously in Men of War series of games.

  • @adi-lan1317
    @adi-lan1317 3 года назад

    Good one Cone!!

  • @AG-gm8vx
    @AG-gm8vx 3 года назад

    I love that warthunder is what is used to make screen/images for this

  • @LuoSon312_G8
    @LuoSon312_G8 3 года назад +10

    is it weird how much this tank's silhouette looks like modern tanks?

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 года назад +14

      Have you seen a modern tank?

    • @motmot8879
      @motmot8879 3 года назад +7

      @@derrickstorm6976 i think he's from 1930

    • @drunkoutankou1273
      @drunkoutankou1273 3 года назад +2

      Idk pal most modern MBTs at least includes things like slope armor, and not this tall box with a track and a cannon.

    • @LuoSon312_G8
      @LuoSon312_G8 3 года назад

      just saying,
      the IJA had a bad experience with tanks in Ww2, it's surprising that aside from the British Centurion mbt, the Chi-Ri's silhouette most closely looked more like the modern MBT silhouette than other tanks of the era.
      as i said, weird. idk.

    • @xubileibe
      @xubileibe 3 года назад +1

      no. modern mbts can afford to have straight and weird shapes because of composite armor, era, nera and spacing. in addition, the positioning of the wheels resulting from the type of suspension used can resemble modern torsion bars. remove the "middle floor" and it would look a lot like some cold war mbts. obviously outdated, but still similar.

  • @jordangreenwade2931
    @jordangreenwade2931 3 года назад +7

    You have to remember we(as in Americans) were mainly fielding 75mm Shermans in the Pacific. The Chi-ri would have been hell on the 75's

  • @josephburke7224
    @josephburke7224 2 года назад +1

    One reason Japanese tanks were light had to do with the many small islands where troops were posted. Most, if not all had adaptable floats to get them ashore.
    A tank this large would have required some sort of port facilities to move it to the many islands.
    For home islands it could have been useful providing tactics were good. But Sherman's would have outnumbered them. As we moved closer to the home islands, more Sherman's were deployed. I am not sure. But I think 3 armored divisions were listed as part of operation olympic.

  • @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus5224
    @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus5224 2 года назад +2

    I’m pretty sure there were ho-ri type 1-3 (search “Ho-ri t lll” for the type 3)

  • @jaxsullivan2117
    @jaxsullivan2117 3 года назад +3

    3:16 "The CHITO" you'll thank me.
    Cheto tank.

    • @captainshid5464
      @captainshid5464 3 года назад +1

      wow haha wow that's so funny bro wow so funny haha wow bro hilarious bro comedy gold haha wow bro

    • @jaxsullivan2117
      @jaxsullivan2117 3 года назад

      @@captainshid5464 H

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 3 года назад +5

    Could you go over the very first American tank, the M1919? That thing looks like a Hoverboard with a wheel in the back and a gun sticking out the front.

  • @ricardogabriel6075
    @ricardogabriel6075 3 года назад

    Finaly!! I'm really wanted a video about the Chi-Ri II, (best 5.0 In Warthunder).

  • @tino897
    @tino897 Год назад +1

    The Ho-Ri line is depicted in some way in World of Tanks Blitz. Type 1-3. You can see them if you want. Probably not at all real by Type 2 but still something.

  • @christophercao7027
    @christophercao7027 3 года назад +6

    Japan: Finally! We have something that can kill Shermans!
    Pershing: Hello there

  • @kurumi394
    @kurumi394 2 года назад +19

    The strongest tank the Japanese had were captured M3 Stuarts. They called them medium tanks.
    _Yes._

    • @NoOneAlive_
      @NoOneAlive_ 2 года назад

      Wait, for real?

    • @PraetorianMan
      @PraetorianMan 2 года назад +9

      @@NoOneAlive_ No, the Chi-Ha with the 47mm gun was straight up more powerful than the M3 Stuart. It probably did meet the Japanese standards for being a "medium", but it absolutely was not the "strongest tank" they had.

    • @NoOneAlive_
      @NoOneAlive_ 2 года назад

      @@PraetorianMan Ahhh, I see

  • @worldoftonks8739
    @worldoftonks8739 3 года назад

    This is my favourite serie on RUclips

  • @hadesdogs4366
    @hadesdogs4366 3 года назад +1

    Unfortunately people tend to forget the environments in which these tanks are made for, for example you wouldn’t drive on icy roads without snow chains and the same applies for tanks, the Japanese required small light weight tanks due to their amphibious style of warfare since having a massive tank on a landing craft isn’t ideal nor would it help in Forrest and swampy environments like China vs the Germans needs for heavy armor and firepower due to the open European theatre where medium panzers were heavy enough and mobile enough for most environments vs the tiger which was a dedicated tank hunter and outside of Africa and Europe it did fairly well, since being on the defensive doesn’t require you to run all over the place, the same applies to Italy whose tanks mostly suffered due to economical problems however were ideal for Italy’s mountainous environments

  • @reform-revolution
    @reform-revolution 3 года назад +4

    give em points for the attempt then remove those points for thinking this would have worked with the tactics they often deployed during the war

  • @impatientpatient8270
    @impatientpatient8270 3 года назад +3

    this makes me want to rewatch girls und panzer and play the defvil snail's sick game

    • @maj.romuloortiz7832
      @maj.romuloortiz7832 3 года назад

      If you can get Girls Und Panzer Dream Tank Match, that game is so fun 😃 😊

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 3 года назад

      @@maj.romuloortiz7832 i want it so bad but only got ps vita

  • @Calvin_Coolage
    @Calvin_Coolage 3 года назад +1

    So does this mean we might get a video on the Ke-Ho? That's become my favorite late war Japanese prototype tank.

  • @Pugiron
    @Pugiron 2 года назад +1

    "Sherman Desperate Countermeasure" would be the non=clickbait title

  • @hiroshi3781
    @hiroshi3781 3 года назад +6

    Do you actually read it as "CHEE-REEE"

  • @skysunknownheroes
    @skysunknownheroes 3 года назад +3

    Wow i just realized that sensha-manual blog is written by a korean mom

  • @AlexMappingHD
    @AlexMappingHD 3 года назад

    You are doing a great job dude.
    Keep it up! :D
    What do you think about a video on Hetzer's father: Maresalul?

  • @tysonchickennuggets
    @tysonchickennuggets 3 года назад +1

    In the ho-ri drawing u shouted. It was written using a Japanese alphabet that is used for words that come from sound or foreign words.

  • @donberry7657
    @donberry7657 3 года назад +4

    The craziest thing in comments on war machines are guys who think their armchair video games define the quality, combat readiness and effectiveness of real weapons and their crews in actual combat under war vtime conditions.

  • @GSC-Operator-chan
    @GSC-Operator-chan 3 года назад +8

    If only Mai Waffentrager was here to help you research this. She was the go-to person for this kind of information. 😔

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +8

      I've heard some conflicting things about her research so I'm not sure I would trust her information 100%

    • @CleveAneki
      @CleveAneki 3 года назад +1

      Mai has been caught fabricating and altering documents to suit their purposes, which has essentially gutted their credibility among most people.

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 года назад +2

    Never heard of a tank with a belt-fed *75mm* gun ...

    • @ONEIL311
      @ONEIL311 Год назад

      I mean it would be revolutionary lol

  • @nagaykei6611
    @nagaykei6611 3 года назад +2

    Try doing the VT 1-2 I’m kinda curious about how that leopardxStrv boogaloo even came to be

  • @jamesonaudette528
    @jamesonaudette528 3 года назад +3

    Honestly some Japanese tanks look pretty cool but they suck

  • @spiffywolf2850
    @spiffywolf2850 3 года назад

    Its always funny seeing the bob semple in the intro

  • @HispAnakin42
    @HispAnakin42 2 года назад +1

    Imagine being so bad with tanks that the Sherman is your biggest threat.

  • @Tsuchimursu
    @Tsuchimursu 3 года назад +1

    Drives me nuts how all these one of a kind prototypes just got scrapped by militaries as gun targets instead of put in collections

  • @roanneabe7552
    @roanneabe7552 3 года назад +1

    Cone I want you to do the VK 30.01 (H) and the Sturer Emil for the next Cursed By Design episode because I'm just wondering what was the purpose of this tank?

  • @fluteboiz8912
    @fluteboiz8912 3 года назад

    I’ve never seen a RUclips video sponsored by another RUclips channel

  • @silence3994
    @silence3994 Год назад

    i dont have anything to back this up but i could imagine that the 37 was a ranging gun which has a matched performance for the 7,5cm. If SHTF you can still load HE and blast inf

  • @jeffreyarugay3503
    @jeffreyarugay3503 3 года назад

    Good job!